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As can be seen there is quite a divide between how the papers are reporting the TV address by the PM last night. The loyalists try to take the best view for Johnson while others point to the contradictions and difficulties.
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Boris could have announced the elimination of COVID19 and a cure for cancer and the Mirror would have found a way to be critical.
If you're incapable of figuring out for yourself what alert means or what a hazard is then please, please, please hand in your driving licence. You're too much of a danger to be on our roads.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/ceo-iowa-asked-remove-masks-mike-pence.html
..Mere hours after Vice President Mike Pence’s press secretary tested positive for COVID-19, he was set to meet with a group of food industry executives who had gathered for a roundtable discussion in West Des Moines. But before Pence joined them on the stage, someone came in and asked all five guests to remove their masks, which they all did dutifully, reports the Intercept, which posted a segment of the live video stream of the event that showed the sequence of events. “The strange request underscored just how committed the White House is to ignoring federal health advice intended to slow the spread of the pandemic coronavirus,” notes the Intercept’s Robert Mackey...
Let's announce a speech
We can't make the announcement in the speech we leaked to the press.
We'll make the speech about not making any announcement.
Get all the journalists on the phone and explain to them that we did announce something in the speech, they just didn't hear it.
Besides I believe the prior peak was much higher than 100,000 too. But my simple exercise was to demonstrate why both R and baseline numbers matter.
If you change it to a prior peak of 250,000 per day and baseline when R goes above 1 is 25,000 then it would still take 17 weeks.
Thankfully the government told me to stay alert. If I handed had that precise advice I shudder to think what might have happened.
Now think really hard and tell me what you think a coronavirus hazard could be?
If you're incapable of identifying a hazard that says more about your than the advice.
You don't need to see the virus to think "that is a hazard" here either.
As an example, let's start with the advice of go to work if you can't work from home. What happens if you can't work from home but can't leave home as you have school age children who cannot go to school.
I suspect that one is a legal minefield as desperate HR departments look the furlough closure date of June 30th, the 45 day notice period that is formerly required and think better start sending notifications out.
Now was that tough?
Join a union if you can. As per @CarlottaVance on the previous thread, think carefully about your choice. One may be best avoided.
Now imagine what you do next Monday after the announcement that 25%/50% of the department may no longer have jobs.
Oh and the advice wasn't clear as I really wasn't being sarcastic as I posted the above - the if able to do so wasn't part of any headline on the BBC news last night.
It's like a scene from a spy novel.
Anyway, it looks like it will be OK for people to visit one relative as long as you stay in the garden. Tough if your relative lives in a flat.
This week is definitely not going to be pretty and it's going to result in people doing very stupid things next week to try and keep their job.
However, most of the flak he's taking is because people are afraid of the virus. Sticking indoors on 80% pay felt pretty safe for a lot of people. Suddenly we're being asked to begin the tentative baby steps back to life. It frightens a lot of people.
But it's got to be done.
Brewery. Piss up.
Say if it was 10 million infected (50k deaths at 0.5%IFR), we can afford up to R of 1.18. It's obviously more complicated than that, but possibly a useful buffer looking at Germany's reported R estimates.
I take it you are arguing for the sake of it as you clearly aren't thinking the second step where you discover it doesn't work.
Schools aren't open = use childcare well um, errr that's closed and the Grandparents aren't an option.
I'm sure if you go shopping this week and see someone stood in the shop coughing you'll get within 2 metres of them because you're incapable of thinking what a hazard is.
Or not, maybe you'll be alert to the hazard and not get within 2 metres of them.
Or maybe you'll be even more alert to the hazard of the fact you may not see who is sick and stay 2 metres away from everyone.
And if you've been furloughed while the company is open, unless demand increases rapidly (which I doubt) most of those furloughed workers have jobs that no longer exist.
How companies cope with notice of redundancy requirements is the biggest question I would have this week.
I have been meeting my parents, I keep 2 metres away from them.
First step is employers need to do risk assessments and then they need to contact their employees. Unlikely that will all be done before Wednesday anyway unless they were already working on it.
So we should not be surprised to see this at play with the slogan "Stay ALERT" and the entirely unsurprising coincidence of the use of the same word in the ALERT levels, that we can expect to govern our lives for many months to come.
I am afraid that you can expect to come to loath the repetition of the word ALERT so ubiquitous is it intended to become, and I expect much repetition on the different ALERT levels as we move between them.
It is therefore curious that Opposition parties have made such a determined attempt to associate the word ALERT with negative connotations, when it is so central to government strategy. Perhaps they fear the electorate being warned to be ALERT to real or imagined dangers from the Opposition during an election campaign as the government leverage their current work with ALERT.
Poor. Attempt. Propaganda
Not as bad as a gang of Coronavirus hanging out behind the Tesco bins, exchanging cash and smoking something exotic.
Be alert!
So for now I will catch up with domestic work and watch the debate on the news channels
Arrogance in having enough faith in people that that they can spot what a hazard is and understand alert? Condescension in thinking that people making a big deal about not being smart enough to know what a hazard is and not knowing how to be alert are just being flippant and puerile? Is that what you mean?
Or do you mean something else?
My point is you can now go out for exercise as much as you like. If your parents go out for exercise then you can meet them in a park and just stand 2 metres away from them. Is it really that difficult to understand ?
Still, it makes more sense than criticising a lack of clarity and the release of any guidance to reduce that lack of clarity.
It really is a shame Vanilla doesn't offer an ignore button as this is the 3rd day I've replied to half baked details from him (today he forgot Childcare was closed, last week it was knowing more about IT projects than 2 people who earn their living fixing them).
1. Love the Thick of It comparison - it really is a real life re-enactment of that episode.
2. Love the "ITS VERY CLEAR" insistence from PB/FB Tories being roundly ridiculed by anyone with ears.
3. WY Cop Shop says "Fuck this we're offski". The singularly most dangerous thing I've read. I know the current "we've had enough of experts" version of the Tory party thinks its funny to blame the experts for their incompetence, but Maybot tried that at the police federation and it backfired badly
4. The sky is literally about to fall in on the government as scores of sizable businesses place a significant number of furloughed employees on notice of redundancy. There is literally nothing to reassure the hospitality industry of any kind of restoration. The travel and holiday industry was scuttled last night. If you run one of these companies the only change you may have of not losing the business is to lay everyone off and try to mothball things. Sunak could join in with the "nothing has changed" by making furlough and other schemes open ended and unlimited. Or else BOOM.
Furlough scheme ends June 30th
45 Day notice of redundancy notices need to be sent by May 15th (this Friday).
There really is zero time for this to be fixed - it needs to be sorted by close of play tonight.
Still struggling to find proof re your lies on care homes I see, I presume the numbers do not support your claims on several previous threads.
As for IT I never said I knew more than anyone else. I said that I would be surprised if they hadn't thought about the problem - and I said that if it didn't work then that would surely be discovered this week in the Beta test and they would go to a Plan B. Given that it seems the problem has been discovered in the Beta test and they have gone to Plan B then how was I wrong please?
(S is the proportion of posts on the thread that are retweets from Scott)
He was the man who didn't understand how close Dover was to Calais. Why they send such an obviously incompetent moron out to bat for the Government beats me.