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I found it very hard to make up my mind about it. One of those situations where your heart says one thing, Uranus says another...OldKingCole said:
Caused a deal of unforeseen problems in the world of astrology, so I'm told.DavidL said:
Poor Pluto. I am not sure it’s ever got over being reduced to dwarf status.MarqueeMark said:
No apStocky said:
Yes, and who knew that what would eventually do for them would be misplaced apostrophe`s?Jonathan said:
They should have been disowned absolutely after 2016. Hey ho. Damage done. Glad they are finally ostracised.MarqueeMark said:
The sane Brexiteers never had any truck with them in the first place.Jonathan said:I wonder if the more sane Brexiteers look at the recent antics of Aaron Banks, Tim Martin, Farage and co, who they held common cause and have a few quiet personal doubts.
(That was deliberate.)
Umpteen planets? Umpteen? There are only 8 now Pluto has been downgraded.....kinabalu said:
There are umpteen planets in our solar system which revolves around the sun, one of millions and billions of stars in the galaxy, and there are millions and billions of galaxies in the universe, which is just one of an infinite number of universes in the ... ???HYUFD said:
And here's us shutting down pubs to save a few thousand earthly lives.
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The Minister of Munitions during the Great War -- two of whom went on to become Prime Minister, Lloyd George and Churchill -- vastly improved production, procurement and logistics.LostPassword said:
I recall that there was a Minister for Shells in WWI. Not sure whether it helped.HYUFD said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_of_Munitions
As an aside, the shell crisis was solved when the Manchester chemist Chaim Weizmann devised a way to make acorns go bang. He was later the first President of Israel, that country not falling for the usual Oxford bluffers.
The exercise was repeated in the second world war when Lord Beaverbrook was Minister of Production.
I'm surprised (genuinely) that such a prominent Churchill scholar as Boris Johnson has not appointed a Covid Czar at the very least. You'd have thought Dominic Cummings would also have been in favour given the rude things he has said about Whitehall logistics.0 -
Maidenhead. Other side of London.GIN1138 said:
Having type 1 diabetes she's at very high risk with this virus. She'd be much better off self-isolating in Maidstone with Philip.GarethoftheVale2 said:Hope Boris gets well soon. Was wondering- if a temporary PM was required could Theresa come back for a bit?
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Aren’t there junior Health Ministers who could focus on this?LostPassword said:
I recall that there was a Minister for Shells in WWI. Not sure whether it helped.HYUFD said:0 -
On topic, David Cameron as next PM if Boris Johnson is hors de combat due to Covid-19.
He’s experienced and he’d be there for the short term, no need for a messy leadership contest.0 -
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It's very strange. They have also shot up above Italy in terms of total case numbers, but as you say seem to be showing a more rapid drop-off now. This could be because the lockdown was more efficiently applied in Spain. Italy's lockdown was pretty poorly implemented at the beginning. France went for a full lockdown that has largely been administered efficiently and they are also showing consistent signs of a slowdown in cases and deaths (the total numbers are skewed recently as they having started adding all the care home deaths, but on hospital deaths the signs are somewhat encouraging)ABZ said:
The dropoff in numbers across Spain seems to be really rapid. It seems, at least superficially, that it's quite different from Italy (at least at present).nichomar said:Only 2% increase in new cases in Valencia today lets hope were getting there!
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Much of astrology (certain types of astrology, anyway) is based on systems thousands of years old. So in theory, getting rid of Pluto helps a bit, and being able to discount Neptune and Uranus would be even more useful.OldKingCole said:
Caused a deal of unforeseen problems in the world of astrology, so I'm told.DavidL said:
Poor Pluto. I am not sure it’s ever got over being reduced to dwarf status.MarqueeMark said:
No apStocky said:
Yes, and who knew that what would eventually do for them would be misplaced apostrophe`s?Jonathan said:
They should have been disowned absolutely after 2016. Hey ho. Damage done. Glad they are finally ostracised.MarqueeMark said:
The sane Brexiteers never had any truck with them in the first place.Jonathan said:I wonder if the more sane Brexiteers look at the recent antics of Aaron Banks, Tim Martin, Farage and co, who they held common cause and have a few quiet personal doubts.
(That was deliberate.)
Umpteen planets? Umpteen? There are only 8 now Pluto has been downgraded.....kinabalu said:
There are umpteen planets in our solar system which revolves around the sun, one of millions and billions of stars in the galaxy, and there are millions and billions of galaxies in the universe, which is just one of an infinite number of universes in the ... ???HYUFD said:
And here's us shutting down pubs to save a few thousand earthly lives.
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That was a joke in Roseanne iirc -- she won the lottery because her numbers included "8 planets in the solar system". More seriously, the chap who demoted Pluto also thinks there might be an actual undiscovered ninth planet.BluestBlue said:
You'd have thought they've have been able to see that coming...OldKingCole said:
Caused a deal of unforeseen problems in the world of astrology, so I'm told.DavidL said:
Poor Pluto. I am not sure it’s ever got over being reduced to dwarf status.MarqueeMark said:
No apStocky said:
Yes, and who knew that what would eventually do for them would be misplaced apostrophe`s?Jonathan said:
They should have been disowned absolutely after 2016. Hey ho. Damage done. Glad they are finally ostracised.MarqueeMark said:
The sane Brexiteers never had any truck with them in the first place.Jonathan said:I wonder if the more sane Brexiteers look at the recent antics of Aaron Banks, Tim Martin, Farage and co, who they held common cause and have a few quiet personal doubts.
(That was deliberate.)
Umpteen planets? Umpteen? There are only 8 now Pluto has been downgraded.....kinabalu said:
There are umpteen planets in our solar system which revolves around the sun, one of millions and billions of stars in the galaxy, and there are millions and billions of galaxies in the universe, which is just one of an infinite number of universes in the ... ???HYUFD said:
And here's us shutting down pubs to save a few thousand earthly lives.
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Theresa (afaik) has Type 1 and clearly manages it well and is quite fit. I'd like to see the breakdown of Type 1 and Type 2 sufferers (they are very different diseases) in the figures, as Type 2 is often associated with poor lifestyle, advanced years, and obesity, and I would not be surprised if a disproportionate number of diabetics that have struggled with Coronavirus are Type 2.ydoethur said:
Given her age and diabetes, I'm amazed she's not been in strict lockdown for the last two months. I think she even attended Corbyn's final PMQs, which I was stunned to see.GarethoftheVale2 said:Hope Boris gets well soon. Was wondering- if a temporary PM was required could Theresa come back for a bit?
So the answer's no.1 -
Not an MP which granted with Parliament not seating is less of a problem than it would otherwise be.TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, David Cameron as next PM if Boris Johnson is hors de combat due to Covid-19.
He’s experienced and he’d be there for the short term, no need for a messy leadership contest.0 -
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If deaths lag a couple of weeks behind hospitalisation, the next couple of days might be bad as it was a fortnight yesterday since the parties in the parksParistonda said:
It's very strange. They have also shot up above Italy in terms of total case numbers, but as you say seem to be showing a more rapid drop-off now. This could be because the lockdown was more efficiently applied in Spain. Italy's lockdown was pretty poorly implemented at the beginning. France went for a full lockdown that has largely been administered efficiently and they are also showing consistent signs of a slowdown in cases and deaths (the total numbers are skewed recently as they having started adding all the care home deaths, but on hospital deaths the signs are somewhat encouraging)ABZ said:
The dropoff in numbers across Spain seems to be really rapid. It seems, at least superficially, that it's quite different from Italy (at least at present).nichomar said:Only 2% increase in new cases in Valencia today lets hope were getting there!
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Except for the small facts that he's neither an MP nor a Lord. And the Cabinet wouldn't want him near the Brexit negotiations while the leadership contest was held.TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, David Cameron as next PM if Boris Johnson is hors de combat due to Covid-19.
He’s experienced and he’d be there for the short term, no need for a messy leadership contest.0 -
Nuevos datos de Sanidad:
CASOS TOTALES: 13.5032
Casos últimas 24h: 4.273
Recuperados: 40.437
Hospitalizados: 59.662
Deaths 130550 -
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Everything the FT says was already in the government's 2019 manifesto before the bat virus kicked off. Corbyn won that argument in ge2017 and Boris pinched Labour's platform.isam said:1 -
A council of PMs instead why not. Brown, Blair, Cameron, Major and May taking leadership together. Granted that's 4 Tories and Brown.TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, David Cameron as next PM if Boris Johnson is hors de combat due to Covid-19.
He’s experienced and he’d be there for the short term, no need for a messy leadership contest.1 -
Parliament isn’t sitting so not an issue plus Brexit talks are going to be postponed for a while so not an issue, as Downing Street and Raab’s former Chief of Staff have admitted.Sandpit said:
Except for the small facts that he's neither an MP nor a Lord. And the Cabinet wouldn't want him near the Brexit negotiations while the leadership contest was held.TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, David Cameron as next PM if Boris Johnson is hors de combat due to Covid-19.
He’s experienced and he’d be there for the short term, no need for a messy leadership contest.0 -
This is a disgrace. Sir Keir out.Andy_JS said:3 -
What was your favourite goal scored by your team?
https://twitter.com/amylawrence71/status/1247068719672709124?s=210 -
Peter Hitchens has been arguing with Mike Graham for over 12 hours on twitter... and tags a 30 year old Peruvian called Luis Romero into every comment by mistake 🙈
https://twitter.com/clarkemicah/status/1247058201629151232?s=21
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Those look much better figures again. Spain seems to be making the case for a very tight lockdown pretty well right now. Hope the UK is listening.nichomar said:Nuevos datos de Sanidad:
CASOS TOTALES: 13.5032
Casos últimas 24h: 4.273
Recuperados: 40.437
Hospitalizados: 59.662
Deaths 130550 -
Same ground. Same end. Different goal:isam said:What was your favourite goal scored by your team?
https://twitter.com/amylawrence71/status/1247068719672709124?s=21
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Now you'd have to have a heart of stone ...Andy_JS said:2 -
Clearly wasn't prepared to share the limelight with an intellectual titan. For shame.TheScreamingEagles said:
This is a disgrace. Sir Keir out.Andy_JS said:2 -
A question that is occupying me above most others atm -Chris said:If it is 50s and under taking up the ventilators, that will surely be because they are being given priority over 60s and older. I suspect that the NHS is keeping its head (just) above water only through ruthless targeting of resources.
If a person with bad covid who needs hospital is denied it on scarce resource grounds would they be offered a managed painless death?
And if so, would it take place at home?0 -
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What is the point of the past tense went ?Scott_xP said:Yes, I know Paul Mason went a bit mad, but the it does look like BoZo's original response to COVID-19 was all about Brexit...
https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1247075759598026755
That may not play out to his ultimate advantage...0 -
Worse than a crime, a blunder.TheScreamingEagles said:
This is a disgrace. Sir Keir out.Andy_JS said:0 -
That's a yes then as gdp per capita in the Palestinian authority is well below the global average and gdp per capita in Mauritius is also slightly below the global average too.IshmaelZ said:
That's a no, then. And what on earth makes you think that you can read across from data about the first world and China to countries like India? What do you think of this argument: victims in China and Europe are predominantly yellow or white skinned; the vast majority of Indians are brown skinned; therefore India will be largely immune to the disease?HYUFD said:
The Palestinian authority, parts of Mauritius which were less wealthy but it is pre existing health conditions that impact on Covid 19 death rate only which are relevantIshmaelZ said:
Like, what, AIDS, malaria, TB, polio, dysentery, treatment resistant bacterial pneumonia, pollution-linked lung disease and malnutrition? To repeat a question I asked you the other day, have you ever been to any third world country?HYUFD said:
You only tend to need medical treatment on average if you are old or obese or with pre existing health conditions anywaySandpit said:
More than anything else, it's a lack of sufficient medical resources that determines the death rate. India is very much third world in this regard.HYUFD said:
It is high BMI and diabetes and cancer and heart conditions that increase your chances of dying from Covid 19, again those tend to be more diseases of age and of rich western nations and few Indians are obeseSandpit said:
That the average life expectancy in India is only 55, suggests that many people in their 40s and 50s are already seriously ill.HYUFD said:
Average life expectancy in India though is only 55 compared to 81 here and it is only over 80s who have a more than 10% death rate from Covid 19.Sandpit said:
India, more so than anywhere else, is going to be completely screwed by this virus.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
They can't enforce a lockdown, and they have some of the most densely populated cities on earth - with no running water or supermarkets, nor anything close to sufficient medical facilities.
The death rate for 50 to 59 year olds is only 1.3% by contrast
It's only over 80s with a high death rate in Western countries with good medical systems - if this goes around India as it has everywhere else, it's not unreasonable to expect tens of millions of deaths.
I stand by my comments from weeks ago, that India will most likely have the highest death toll of any country when the virus is finally under control.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
The biggest factor in terms of likelihood to die from Covid 19 is age, you may not like that but facts are facts0 -
The average IQ of the shadow cabinet just went through the roof.5
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FX: sees TSE's comment; checks Wikipedia to confirm Burgon is indeed a Cambridge-educated lawyer.IshmaelZ said:
Worse than a crime, a blunder.TheScreamingEagles said:
This is a disgrace. Sir Keir out.Andy_JS said:
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Pluto's gone but it's appealing the decision so I'm keeping it in there until we hear the outcome of that.MarqueeMark said:Umpteen planets? Umpteen? There are only 8 now Pluto has been downgraded.....
And there are a couple of others "bubbling under".
Therefore, right now, it has to be "umpteen".0 -
You do this Gradgrindish facts are facts shtick but you are incapable of putting the simplest fact in its proper context. The biggest factor in terms of likelihood to die from Covid 19 is age IN THE POPULATIONS WE HAVE STUDIED. THIS MAKES A DIFFERENCE.HYUFD said:
That's a yes then as gdp per capita in the Palestinian authority is well below the global average.
The biggest factor in terms of likelihood to die from Covid 19 is age, you may not like that but facts are facts
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Although the number of new cases are also falling in Germany and they seem to have a lockdown similar in strictness to the UK... and for the first two weeks (which will reflect the figures now) Spain's lockdown, in terms of essential businesses, was similar to the UK now.felix said:
Those look much better figures again. Spain seems to be making the case for a very tight lockdown pretty well right now. Hope the UK is listening.nichomar said:Nuevos datos de Sanidad:
CASOS TOTALES: 13.5032
Casos últimas 24h: 4.273
Recuperados: 40.437
Hospitalizados: 59.662
Deaths 130550 -
Credit to Starmer on this one. I didn't think he would have the balls to do this.Andy_JS said:2 -
Things must be improving out here just had my oncology appointment for 10 tomorrow!4
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This has to be the greatest blunder a Labour leader has made since Tony Blair decided to invade Iraq.IshmaelZ said:
Worse than a crime, a blunder.TheScreamingEagles said:
This is a disgrace. Sir Keir out.Andy_JS said:
You can’t trust the judgment of Oxford educated lawyers, especially the ones that become Labour leader.0 -
"Britain has millions of coronavirus antibody tests, but they don’t work
None of the antibody tests ordered by the government is good enough to use, the new testing chief has admitted.
Professor John Newton said that tests ordered from China were able to identify immunity accurately only in people who had been severely ill and that Britain was no longer hoping to buy millions of kits off the shelf."
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/britain-has-millions-of-coronavirus-antibody-tests-but-they-don-t-work-j7kb55g890 -
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So much for the national interest he promised to act in favour of. Where are we going to find such a consistent source of mirth in these benighted times?TheScreamingEagles said:
This is a disgrace. Sir Keir out.Andy_JS said:2 -
If - which God forbid - Boris Johnson did die of coronavirus, I wonder if the Morons' Chorus would tell us it was because he was chubby, and there was still no need to worry.HYUFD said:
You only tend to need medical treatment on average if you are old or obese or with pre existing health conditions anywaySandpit said:
More than anything else, it's a lack of sufficient medical resources that determines the death rate. India is very much third world in this regard.HYUFD said:
It is high BMI and diabetes and cancer and heart conditions that increase your chances of dying from Covid 19, again those tend to be more diseases of age and of rich western nations and few Indians are obeseSandpit said:
That the average life expectancy in India is only 55, suggests that many people in their 40s and 50s are already seriously ill.HYUFD said:
Average life expectancy in India though is only 55 compared to 81 here and it is only over 80s who have a more than 10% death rate from Covid 19.Sandpit said:
India, more so than anywhere else, is going to be completely screwed by this virus.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
They can't enforce a lockdown, and they have some of the most densely populated cities on earth - with no running water or supermarkets, nor anything close to sufficient medical facilities.
The death rate for 50 to 59 year olds is only 1.3% by contrast
It's only over 80s with a high death rate in Western countries with good medical systems - if this goes around India as it has everywhere else, it's not unreasonable to expect tens of millions of deaths.
I stand by my comments from weeks ago, that India will most likely have the highest death toll of any country when the virus is finally under control.0 -
Is there any legislative requirement to have a prime minister? Or is it just expedience?
When Tony Blair tried to get rid/change the role of the Lord Chancellor I recall that there was numerous laws that needed changing.
Can we just go without a prime minister for a time?0 -
Off topic- Bournemouth Hospital is trialing the HIV and Malaria medication as treatment for Covid-190
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I posted an article yesterday about how France and Spain were looking at those exact issues.kinabalu said:
A question that is occupying me above most others atm -Chris said:If it is 50s and under taking up the ventilators, that will surely be because they are being given priority over 60s and older. I suspect that the NHS is keeping its head (just) above water only through ruthless targeting of resources.
If a person with bad covid who needs hospital is denied it on scarce resource grounds would they be offered a managed painless death?
And if so, would it take place at home?
There were concerns about shortages of the 2 drugs that might be used to manage such an exit.0 -
Indians and Africans might not be immune to the virus but they WILL be immune to having their casualties driving the global agenda when the pandemic has subsided in the West.IshmaelZ said:That's a no, then. And what on earth makes you think that you can read across from data about the first world and China to countries like India? What do you think of this argument: victims in China and Europe are predominantly yellow or white skinned; the vast majority of Indians are brown skinned; therefore India will be largely immune to the disease?
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I posted this tweet this morning. It’s worth reposting:Chris said:
If - which God forbid - Boris Johnson did die of coronavirus, I wonder if the Morons' Chorus would tell us it was because he was chubby, and there's still no need to worry.HYUFD said:
You only tend to need medical treatment on average if you are old or obese or with pre existing health conditions anywaySandpit said:
More than anything else, it's a lack of sufficient medical resources that determines the death rate. India is very much third world in this regard.HYUFD said:
It is high BMI and diabetes and cancer and heart conditions that increase your chances of dying from Covid 19, again those tend to be more diseases of age and of rich western nations and few Indians are obeseSandpit said:
That the average life expectancy in India is only 55, suggests that many people in their 40s and 50s are already seriously ill.HYUFD said:
Average life expectancy in India though is only 55 compared to 81 here and it is only over 80s who have a more than 10% death rate from Covid 19.Sandpit said:
India, more so than anywhere else, is going to be completely screwed by this virus.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
They can't enforce a lockdown, and they have some of the most densely populated cities on earth - with no running water or supermarkets, nor anything close to sufficient medical facilities.
The death rate for 50 to 59 year olds is only 1.3% by contrast
It's only over 80s with a high death rate in Western countries with good medical systems - if this goes around India as it has everywhere else, it's not unreasonable to expect tens of millions of deaths.
I stand by my comments from weeks ago, that India will most likely have the highest death toll of any country when the virus is finally under control.
https://twitter.com/shanxonline/status/1246976779400753155?s=210 -
What a nightmare. Reports from many countries now about unreliable tests being developed or purchased. Sometimes it's better to take time over things.Andy_JS said:"Britain has millions of coronavirus antibody tests, but they don’t work
None of the antibody tests ordered by the government is good enough to use, the new testing chief has admitted.
Professor John Newton said that tests ordered from China were able to identify immunity accurately only in people who had been severely ill and that Britain was no longer hoping to buy millions of kits off the shelf."
(£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/britain-has-millions-of-coronavirus-antibody-tests-but-they-don-t-work-j7kb55g89
Of course, if Chinese tests are unreliable, what does that tell us about Chinese infection statistics?0 -
Looks pretty universal from what I have seen.IshmaelZ said:
You do this Gradgrindish facts are facts shtick but you are incapable of putting the simplest fact in its proper context. The biggest factor in terms of likelihood to die from Covid 19 is age IN THE POPULATIONS WE HAVE STUDIED. THIS MAKES A DIFFERENCE.HYUFD said:
That's a yes then as gdp per capita in the Palestinian authority is well below the global average.
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There really should be a more formal succession process for who becomes acting PM in the event the PM dies. Doesn't have to be a long list like in the US but why don't we just make the deputy PM role an official one like the vice president, rather than something that occasionally gets used then discarded.0
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Well, at least pneumonia was known as the "old man's friend", because it's relatively painless.kinabalu said:
A question that is occupying me above most others atm -Chris said:If it is 50s and under taking up the ventilators, that will surely be because they are being given priority over 60s and older. I suspect that the NHS is keeping its head (just) above water only through ruthless targeting of resources.
If a person with bad covid who needs hospital is denied it on scarce resource grounds would they be offered a managed painless death?
And if so, would it take place at home?1 -
That they can be wrong due to cockup as well as conspiracy.Sandpit said:
What a nightmare. Reports from many countries now about unreliable tests being developed or purchased. Sometimes it's better to take time over things.Andy_JS said:"Britain has millions of coronavirus antibody tests, but they don’t work
None of the antibody tests ordered by the government is good enough to use, the new testing chief has admitted.
Professor John Newton said that tests ordered from China were able to identify immunity accurately only in people who had been severely ill and that Britain was no longer hoping to buy millions of kits off the shelf."
(£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/britain-has-millions-of-coronavirus-antibody-tests-but-they-don-t-work-j7kb55g89
Of course, if Chinese tests are unreliable, what does that tell us about Chinese infection statistics?0 -
Burgon will have more time to focus on creating the Tony Benn School of Political Education.DavidL said:
So much for the national interest he promised to act in favour of. Where are we going to find such a consistent source of mirth in these benighted times?TheScreamingEagles said:
This is a disgrace. Sir Keir out.Andy_JS said:0 -
See Varadkar has gone back to medicine, at least one day per week. Any chance of Liam Fox...... or would that be too risky?0
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Whats Cambridge Graduate Burgons IQ?Andy_JS said:The average IQ of the shadow cabinet just went through the roof.
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I just noticed the Chinese also keep finding bunches of asymptomatic cases which they don't include in the daily figuresSandpit said:
What a nightmare. Reports from many countries now about unreliable tests being developed or purchased. Sometimes it's better to take time over things.Andy_JS said:"Britain has millions of coronavirus antibody tests, but they don’t work
None of the antibody tests ordered by the government is good enough to use, the new testing chief has admitted.
Professor John Newton said that tests ordered from China were able to identify immunity accurately only in people who had been severely ill and that Britain was no longer hoping to buy millions of kits off the shelf."
(£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/britain-has-millions-of-coronavirus-antibody-tests-but-they-don-t-work-j7kb55g89
Of course, if Chinese tests are unreliable, what does that tell us about Chinese infection statistics?0 -
Fascinating film about WW1 shell production for those who like that kind of thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IgHwYkZ91sMalmesbury said:<
Actually getting more shells was about getting more machinery setup to make lathes for turning shells.0 -
So Andrew Gwynne jumped before he was pushed.
Not that anyone will miss him1 -
Mainland China reported 39 new coronavirus cases on Sunday, with all but one of them imported from overseas, up from the 30 reported a day earlier, as the number of asymptomatic cases also surged.Floater said:
I just noticed the Chinese also keep finding bunches of asymptomatic cases which they don't include in the daily figuresSandpit said:
What a nightmare. Reports from many countries now about unreliable tests being developed or purchased. Sometimes it's better to take time over things.Andy_JS said:"Britain has millions of coronavirus antibody tests, but they don’t work
None of the antibody tests ordered by the government is good enough to use, the new testing chief has admitted.
Professor John Newton said that tests ordered from China were able to identify immunity accurately only in people who had been severely ill and that Britain was no longer hoping to buy millions of kits off the shelf."
(£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/britain-has-millions-of-coronavirus-antibody-tests-but-they-don-t-work-j7kb55g89
Of course, if Chinese tests are unreliable, what does that tell us about Chinese infection statistics?
The National Health Commission said in a statement on Monday that 78 new asymptomatic cases had been identified. Only one new death was recorded on April 5, the new data showed.0 -
He's not saying Indians in their 70s and 80s are likely to fare better than similarly aged Europeans. He's saying that there are factors that simply aren't relevant in the West (like deprivation, and malnutrition) that might turn out to be as important as age if/when the virus gets a foothold in India.geoffw said:
Looks pretty universal from what I have seen.IshmaelZ said:
You do this Gradgrindish facts are facts shtick but you are incapable of putting the simplest fact in its proper context. The biggest factor in terms of likelihood to die from Covid 19 is age IN THE POPULATIONS WE HAVE STUDIED. THIS MAKES A DIFFERENCE.HYUFD said:
That's a yes then as gdp per capita in the Palestinian authority is well below the global average.
The biggest factor in terms of likelihood to die from Covid 19 is age, you may not like that but facts are facts1 -
I wish they would explain how the asymptomatic cases have been detected and where they are coming from.Floater said:
Mainland China reported 39 new coronavirus cases on Sunday, with all but one of them imported from overseas, up from the 30 reported a day earlier, as the number of asymptomatic cases also surged.Floater said:
I just noticed the Chinese also keep finding bunches of asymptomatic cases which they don't include in the daily figuresSandpit said:
What a nightmare. Reports from many countries now about unreliable tests being developed or purchased. Sometimes it's better to take time over things.Andy_JS said:"Britain has millions of coronavirus antibody tests, but they don’t work
None of the antibody tests ordered by the government is good enough to use, the new testing chief has admitted.
Professor John Newton said that tests ordered from China were able to identify immunity accurately only in people who had been severely ill and that Britain was no longer hoping to buy millions of kits off the shelf."
(£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/britain-has-millions-of-coronavirus-antibody-tests-but-they-don-t-work-j7kb55g89
Of course, if Chinese tests are unreliable, what does that tell us about Chinese infection statistics?
The National Health Commission said in a statement on Monday that 78 new asymptomatic cases had been identified. Only one new death was recorded on April 5, the new data showed.0 -
Because that would not prevent someone in the role being used and discarded. The Vice-President is a formal part of the ticket, but as MPs only represent a constituency theres no way I can see to replicate that. The intended deputy pm might lose their seat, or a coalition might need to be formed, maybe they decide afterwards but then that person cocks up and needs to be fired.Paristonda said:There really should be a more formal succession process for who becomes acting PM in the event the PM dies. Doesn't have to be a long list like in the US but why don't we just make the deputy PM role an official one like the vice president, rather than something that occasionally gets used then discarded.
I don't think it is a major concern. If a party or coalition has a majority it wont take them long to indicate who should be chosen.0 -
Typical twitter. The sickest patients, the ones that have died as a majority cohort, are those who are older, ie 70+, with pre-existing conditions.AlastairMeeks said:
I posted this tweet this morning. It’s worth reposting:Chris said:
If - which God forbid - Boris Johnson did die of coronavirus, I wonder if the Morons' Chorus would tell us it was because he was chubby, and there's still no need to worry.HYUFD said:
You only tend to need medical treatment on average if you are old or obese or with pre existing health conditions anywaySandpit said:
More than anything else, it's a lack of sufficient medical resources that determines the death rate. India is very much third world in this regard.HYUFD said:
It is high BMI and diabetes and cancer and heart conditions that increase your chances of dying from Covid 19, again those tend to be more diseases of age and of rich western nations and few Indians are obeseSandpit said:
That the average life expectancy in India is only 55, suggests that many people in their 40s and 50s are already seriously ill.HYUFD said:
Average life expectancy in India though is only 55 compared to 81 here and it is only over 80s who have a more than 10% death rate from Covid 19.Sandpit said:
India, more so than anywhere else, is going to be completely screwed by this virus.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
They can't enforce a lockdown, and they have some of the most densely populated cities on earth - with no running water or supermarkets, nor anything close to sufficient medical facilities.
The death rate for 50 to 59 year olds is only 1.3% by contrast
It's only over 80s with a high death rate in Western countries with good medical systems - if this goes around India as it has everywhere else, it's not unreasonable to expect tens of millions of deaths.
I stand by my comments from weeks ago, that India will most likely have the highest death toll of any country when the virus is finally under control.
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https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/what-is-designation/heritage-highlights/conkers-help-win-fww/DecrepiterJohnL said:
As an aside, the shell crisis was solved when the Manchester chemist Chaim Weizmann devised a way to make acorns go bang.0 -
Use of coal at six of the top Chinese power producers is back up to near 2018 and 2019 levels:
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I think that, legally, it's the various individual Cabinet ministers that are required and the Cabinet collectively (I think legally there's a whole bunch of appointments that are colloquially thought of as being the PM's to make, but even there the appointments are made by the Crown on the advice of her Ministers, so the Cabinet would suffice).Verulamius said:Is there any legislative requirement to have a prime minister? Or is it just expedience?
When Tony Blair tried to get rid/change the role of the Lord Chancellor I recall that there was numerous laws that needed changing.
Can we just go without a prime minister for a time?
However, without a figurehead exercising executive control there would probably be a damaging loss of confidence.0 -
Right. And I've read plenty similar from the front line. A great many of the very sick on vents are middle aged men.AlastairMeeks said:I posted this tweet this morning. It’s worth reposting:
https://twitter.com/shanxonline/status/1246976779400753155?s=21
But how does this square up with the data that those who die are mainly old?
Does it mean that lots of the older ones are dying BEFORE ventilator stage, either because they go quickly or because they are being denied it on scarcity and prioritization grounds?0 -
You seem to get really irate at such comments. Do you not think people should be able to speculate about the intellectual capacity of senior politicians without access to an actual IQ test? It's fine, Raab for one gets it too (though not so much as Burgon)bigjohnowls said:
Whats Burgons IQ?Andy_JS said:The average IQ of the shadow cabinet just went through the roof.
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No Abbott and Burgon in the shadow cabinet, turns out Covid-19 isn’t the worst thing to happen to us in 2020.DavidL said:
So much for the national interest he promised to act in favour of. Where are we going to find such a consistent source of mirth in these benighted times?TheScreamingEagles said:
This is a disgrace. Sir Keir out.Andy_JS said:0 -
I think the severity by age gradient is similar everywhere. Holding other factors constant of course.Endillion said:
He's not saying Indians in their 70s and 80s are likely to fare better than similarly aged Europeans. He's saying that there are factors that simply aren't relevant in the West (like deprivation, and malnutrition) that might turn out to be as important as age if/when the virus gets a foothold in India.geoffw said:
Looks pretty universal from what I have seen.IshmaelZ said:
You do this Gradgrindish facts are facts shtick but you are incapable of putting the simplest fact in its proper context. The biggest factor in terms of likelihood to die from Covid 19 is age IN THE POPULATIONS WE HAVE STUDIED. THIS MAKES A DIFFERENCE.HYUFD said:
That's a yes then as gdp per capita in the Palestinian authority is well below the global average.
The biggest factor in terms of likelihood to die from Covid 19 is age, you may not like that but facts are facts
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We can add Premier League football players to the list of people making idiots of themselves this week, refusing pay cuts even as non-playing staff of the clubs get furloughed. The PFA are seriously trying to argue that the clubs not paying their seven figure salaries would deprive the NHS of tax revenues!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/04/05/pfa-calls-full-financial-disclosure-clubs-hits-back-matt-hancocks/
Contrast with the Premier League rugby players, who have agreed to pay cuts and furloughs, and of course the F1 teams who have donated huge resources to help the fight.0 -
It is twitter responding to a 50+ yr old man who is PM having the virus.kinabalu said:
Right. And I've read plenty similar from the front line. A great many of the very sick on vents are middle aged men.AlastairMeeks said:I posted this tweet this morning. It’s worth reposting:
https://twitter.com/shanxonline/status/1246976779400753155?s=21
But how does this square up with the data that those who die are mainly old?
Does it mean that lots of the older ones are dying BEFORE ventilator stage, either because they go quickly or because they are being denied it on scarcity and prioritization grounds?
As you note, the vast majority who have gone on to die, let's call them "the sickest" have been 70+ yrs old.0 -
It's a Canadian writing about his experiences on an ICU ward and has nothing to do with the PM.TOPPING said:
It is twitter responding to a 50+ yr old man who is PM having the virus.kinabalu said:
Right. And I've read plenty similar from the front line. A great many of the very sick on vents are middle aged men.AlastairMeeks said:I posted this tweet this morning. It’s worth reposting:
https://twitter.com/shanxonline/status/1246976779400753155?s=21
But how does this square up with the data that those who die are mainly old?
Does it mean that lots of the older ones are dying BEFORE ventilator stage, either because they go quickly or because they are being denied it on scarcity and prioritization grounds?
As you note, the vast majority who have gone on to die, let's call them "the sickest" have been 70+ yrs old.0 -
They work for China's purposes - of not wanting to find people with Covid-19....Andy_JS said:"Britain has millions of coronavirus antibody tests, but they don’t work
None of the antibody tests ordered by the government is good enough to use, the new testing chief has admitted.
Professor John Newton said that tests ordered from China were able to identify immunity accurately only in people who had been severely ill and that Britain was no longer hoping to buy millions of kits off the shelf."
(£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/britain-has-millions-of-coronavirus-antibody-tests-but-they-don-t-work-j7kb55g892 -
Do you think the Cambridge graduate has a low IQ? Or for that matter the Oxford graduate to whom you also refer?kle4 said:
You seem to get really irate at such comments. Do you not think people should be able to speculate about the intellectual capacity of senior politicians without access to an actual IQ test? It's fine, Raab for one gets it too (though not so much as Burgon)bigjohnowls said:
Whats Burgons IQ?Andy_JS said:The average IQ of the shadow cabinet just went through the roof.
I dont think they have and therefore would never make such a stupid comment0 -
The evolution of the Italian statistics on the age distribution of fatalities does suggest that younger patients are taking much longer to die. A tiny proportion of the dead were below 60 early on. A significantly larger proportion now.kinabalu said:
Right. And I've read plenty similar from the front line. A great many of the very sick on vents are middle aged men.AlastairMeeks said:I posted this tweet this morning. It’s worth reposting:
https://twitter.com/shanxonline/status/1246976779400753155?s=21
But how does this square up with the data that those who die are mainly old?
Does it mean that lots of the older ones are dying BEFORE ventilator stage, either because they go quickly or because they are being denied it on scarcity and prioritization grounds?
If younger people take longer to die, it would imply they account for a larger proportion of the patients in ICU than might be expected, and might partly explain comments like the one quoted.1 -
I'm still baffled more clubs havent gone for a PR boost wherein even if players are receiving full salary they decide to donate half of it or a third or whatever to charitable causes.Sandpit said:We can add Premier League football players to the list of people making idiots of themselves this week, refusing pay cuts even as non-playing staff of the clubs get furloughed. The PFA are seriously trying to argue that the clubs not paying their seven figure salaries would deprive the NHS of tax revenues!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/04/05/pfa-calls-full-financial-disclosure-clubs-hits-back-matt-hancocks/
Contrast with the Premier League rugby players, who have agreed to pay cuts and furloughs, and of course the F1 teams who have donated huge resources to help the fight.
For the big clubs it would make no difference to the players and engender hugely positive press. No, footballers shouldn't be scapegoats, but being cynical itd be easy to look great right now.0 -
OK, right, thanks. Because this will be important if not all can be treated.Floater said:I posted an article yesterday about how France and Spain were looking at those exact issues.
There were concerns about shortages of the 2 drugs that might be used to manage such an exit.
I wonder if it would be openly acknowledged or thought best not to?0 -
So why has it, of all the millions of tweets out there on Covid-19, been posted on here?williamglenn said:
It's a Canadian writing about his experiences on an ICU ward and has nothing to do with the PM.TOPPING said:
It is twitter responding to a 50+ yr old man who is PM having the virus.kinabalu said:
Right. And I've read plenty similar from the front line. A great many of the very sick on vents are middle aged men.AlastairMeeks said:I posted this tweet this morning. It’s worth reposting:
https://twitter.com/shanxonline/status/1246976779400753155?s=21
But how does this square up with the data that those who die are mainly old?
Does it mean that lots of the older ones are dying BEFORE ventilator stage, either because they go quickly or because they are being denied it on scarcity and prioritization grounds?
As you note, the vast majority who have gone on to die, let's call them "the sickest" have been 70+ yrs old.0 -
Footballers taking a pay cut benefits the club owners, not the ground staff, kit-washers or general public. It would be millionaires subsidising billionaires.Sandpit said:We can add Premier League football players to the list of people making idiots of themselves this week, refusing pay cuts even as non-playing staff of the clubs get furloughed. The PFA are seriously trying to argue that the clubs not paying their seven figure salaries would deprive the NHS of tax revenues!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/04/05/pfa-calls-full-financial-disclosure-clubs-hits-back-matt-hancocks/
Contrast with the Premier League rugby players, who have agreed to pay cuts and furloughs, and of course the F1 teams who have donated huge resources to help the fight.0 -
Andrew Gwynne steps down from Shadow cabinet.
He is tired and bruised by the GE 2019 experiences (when he was campaign co-coordinator even if he now says he has been sidelined during the last phase)
https://twitter.com/GwynneMP/status/1247099675301367809?s=200 -
Austria have announced the beginning of the end of their lockdown.
Should imagine we will be a week or so behind this timeline.
https://www.barrons.com/news/austria-could-start-loosening-lockdown-from-april-14-chancellor-01586165703
"The aim is that from April 14... smaller shops up to a size of 400 square metres, as well as hardware and garden stores can open again, under strict security conditions of course," Kurz said at a press conference.
He added that if the government's timetable goes to plan, larger shops will reopen on 1 May and from mid-May hotels, restaurants and other services could also start to open their doors again in stages.1 -
I suppose it's all relative, but I'd have thought we'd all have met some pretty unintelligent Oxbridge graduates.bigjohnowls said:
Do you think the Cambridge graduate has a low IQ? Or for that matter the Oxford graduate to whom you also refer?kle4 said:
You seem to get really irate at such comments. Do you not think people should be able to speculate about the intellectual capacity of senior politicians without access to an actual IQ test? It's fine, Raab for one gets it too (though not so much as Burgon)bigjohnowls said:
Whats Burgons IQ?Andy_JS said:The average IQ of the shadow cabinet just went through the roof.
I dont think they have and therefore would never make such a stupid comment0 -
As usual, there is an xkcd for this:kle4 said:
Because that would not prevent someone in the role being used and discarded. The Vice-President is a formal part of the ticket, but as MPs only represent a constituency theres no way I can see to replicate that. The intended deputy pm might lose their seat, or a coalition might need to be formed, maybe they decide afterwards but then that person cocks up and needs to be fired.Paristonda said:There really should be a more formal succession process for who becomes acting PM in the event the PM dies. Doesn't have to be a long list like in the US but why don't we just make the deputy PM role an official one like the vice president, rather than something that occasionally gets used then discarded.
I don't think it is a major concern. If a party or coalition has a majority it wont take them long to indicate who should be chosen.
https://xkcd.com/2003/
I wonder if #18 would be higher up in the UK equivalent version, or lower?1 -
There has to be a PM to lead the government, although no formal requirement that he be fit and healthy.Verulamius said:Is there any legislative requirement to have a prime minister? Or is it just expedience?
When Tony Blair tried to get rid/change the role of the Lord Chancellor I recall that there was numerous laws that needed changing.
Can we just go without a prime minister for a time?
If he was to resign or pass on, the Cabinet would need to meet as soon as possible, to select a successor to be appointed by HMQ.0 -
Because of what it might suggest about the PM's prognosis, but the original tweet wasn't about him.TOPPING said:
So why has it, of all the millions of tweets out there on Covid-19, been posted on here?williamglenn said:
It's a Canadian writing about his experiences on an ICU ward and has nothing to do with the PM.TOPPING said:
It is twitter responding to a 50+ yr old man who is PM having the virus.kinabalu said:
Right. And I've read plenty similar from the front line. A great many of the very sick on vents are middle aged men.AlastairMeeks said:I posted this tweet this morning. It’s worth reposting:
https://twitter.com/shanxonline/status/1246976779400753155?s=21
But how does this square up with the data that those who die are mainly old?
Does it mean that lots of the older ones are dying BEFORE ventilator stage, either because they go quickly or because they are being denied it on scarcity and prioritization grounds?
As you note, the vast majority who have gone on to die, let's call them "the sickest" have been 70+ yrs old.0 -
I dont know nor do I care what peoples IQ is. I do think many people, intelligent and otherwise, in public life can and do say very stupid things sometimes. And I dont think there is a problem in people mocking public figures for saying stupid things.bigjohnowls said:
Do you think the Cambridge graduate has a low IQ? Or for that matter the Oxford graduate to whom you also refer?kle4 said:
You seem to get really irate at such comments. Do you not think people should be able to speculate about the intellectual capacity of senior politicians without access to an actual IQ test? It's fine, Raab for one gets it too (though not so much as Burgon)bigjohnowls said:
Whats Burgons IQ?Andy_JS said:The average IQ of the shadow cabinet just went through the roof.
I dont think they have and therefore would never make such a stupid comment
Nor does being intelligent prevent people from being simultaneously pretty stupid, particularly outside of an area of expertise. And therefore I think getting huffy about the honour of oxbridge graduates being insulted for their intellect is remarkably silly. Of course there will be graduates of oxbridge who reveal themselves to be pretty stupid on any number of things.0 -
Your post tells me you haven't read the article.Chris said:
Which tells me you have not the slightest clue about the vast gulf between the Austrian numbers and the British ones.TGOHF666 said:Austria have announced the beginning of the end of their lockdown.
Should imagine we will be a week or so behind this timeline.0 -
Are we heading for a world where sane political centrists could actually have a choice of as many as two political parties who could realistically form a government? We are living through a political revolution.0
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Good news for Austria.TGOHF666 said:Austria have announced the beginning of the end of their lockdown.
Should imagine we will be a week or so behind this timeline.
https://www.barrons.com/news/austria-could-start-loosening-lockdown-from-april-14-chancellor-01586165703
"The aim is that from April 14... smaller shops up to a size of 400 square metres, as well as hardware and garden stores can open again, under strict security conditions of course," Kurz said at a press conference.
He added that if the government's timetable goes to plan, larger shops will reopen on 1 May and from mid-May hotels, restaurants and other services could also start to open their doors again in stages.
I think us being a week or so behind their timetable is optimistic.0 -
Which brought up the most recent oneEndillion said:
As usual, there is an xkcd for this:kle4 said:
Because that would not prevent someone in the role being used and discarded. The Vice-President is a formal part of the ticket, but as MPs only represent a constituency theres no way I can see to replicate that. The intended deputy pm might lose their seat, or a coalition might need to be formed, maybe they decide afterwards but then that person cocks up and needs to be fired.Paristonda said:There really should be a more formal succession process for who becomes acting PM in the event the PM dies. Doesn't have to be a long list like in the US but why don't we just make the deputy PM role an official one like the vice president, rather than something that occasionally gets used then discarded.
I don't think it is a major concern. If a party or coalition has a majority it wont take them long to indicate who should be chosen.
https://xkcd.com/2003/
I wonder if #18 would be higher up in the UK equivalent version, or lower?
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Encouraging.TGOHF666 said:Austria have announced the beginning of the end of their lockdown.
Should imagine we will be a week or so behind this timeline.
https://www.barrons.com/news/austria-could-start-loosening-lockdown-from-april-14-chancellor-01586165703
"The aim is that from April 14... smaller shops up to a size of 400 square metres, as well as hardware and garden stores can open again, under strict security conditions of course," Kurz said at a press conference.
He added that if the government's timetable goes to plan, larger shops will reopen on 1 May and from mid-May hotels, restaurants and other services could also start to open their doors again in stages.0 -
It gives us a reliable source of data as well wrt a possible second wave on easing of restrictions.bigjohnowls said:
Good news for Austria.TGOHF666 said:Austria have announced the beginning of the end of their lockdown.
Should imagine we will be a week or so behind this timeline.
https://www.barrons.com/news/austria-could-start-loosening-lockdown-from-april-14-chancellor-01586165703
"The aim is that from April 14... smaller shops up to a size of 400 square metres, as well as hardware and garden stores can open again, under strict security conditions of course," Kurz said at a press conference.
He added that if the government's timetable goes to plan, larger shops will reopen on 1 May and from mid-May hotels, restaurants and other services could also start to open their doors again in stages.
I think us being a week or so behind their timetable is optimistic.0 -
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One thing the Americans bought to mass production which you don't see here, was the use of automatic tooling - lathes that could cut the profiles without manual intervention.Socky said:
Fascinating film about WW1 shell production for those who like that kind of thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IgHwYkZ91sMalmesbury said:<
Actually getting more shells was about getting more machinery setup to make lathes for turning shells.
Remarkable what you can do with cams etc. Consider that this problem - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welin_breech_block - often stumps modern machinists. As in "How did they do that?". In fact was a very special custom lathe with a kick out....0 -
Don't give me that bullshit. The article says nothing about the UK.TGOHF666 said:
Your post tells me you haven't read the article.Chris said:
Which tells me you have not the slightest clue about the vast gulf between the Austrian numbers and the British ones.TGOHF666 said:Austria have announced the beginning of the end of their lockdown.
Should imagine we will be a week or so behind this timeline.
Just look at the bloody figures. Maximum number of daily deaths in Austria ever recorded: 22.
How can anyone be so stupid?0 -
TrueMaxPB said:
It gives us a reliable source of data as well wrt a possible second wave on easing of restrictions.bigjohnowls said:
Good news for Austria.TGOHF666 said:Austria have announced the beginning of the end of their lockdown.
Should imagine we will be a week or so behind this timeline.
https://www.barrons.com/news/austria-could-start-loosening-lockdown-from-april-14-chancellor-01586165703
"The aim is that from April 14... smaller shops up to a size of 400 square metres, as well as hardware and garden stores can open again, under strict security conditions of course," Kurz said at a press conference.
He added that if the government's timetable goes to plan, larger shops will reopen on 1 May and from mid-May hotels, restaurants and other services could also start to open their doors again in stages.
I think us being a week or so behind their timetable is optimistic.0
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