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At least in that case, you are honest, which puts you very slightly ahead of being merely contemptibleLuckyguy1983 said:
What if you're honestly contemptible?Beibheirli_C said:
Hypocrisy is contemptible, not honesty.squareroot2 said:
beneath contemptDura_Ace said:
No "we" don't.Casino_Royale said:
And we all wish Boris a full and complete recovery.
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We'll agree to disagree, but a country where anything close to social distancing is impossible and many extended families live together in small spaces, is going to result in massive simultaneous infection rates. Not to mention the many rich there who will find ways around bans on travel and spread the virus around, because they think like Scottish CMOs that rules are for others to follow.HYUFD said:
You only tend to need medical treatment on average if you are old or obese or with pre existing health conditions anywaySandpit said:
More than anything else, it's a lack of sufficient medical resources that determines the death rate. India is very much third world in this regard.HYUFD said:
It is high BMI and diabetes and cancer and heart conditions that increase your chances of dying from Covid 19, again those tend to be more diseases of age and of rich western nations and few Indians are obeseSandpit said:
That the average life expectancy in India is only 55, suggests that many people in their 40s and 50s are already seriously ill.HYUFD said:
Average life expectancy in India though is only 55 compared to 81 here and it is only over 80s who have a more than 10% death rate from Covid 19.Sandpit said:
India, more so than anywhere else, is going to be completely screwed by this virus.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
They can't enforce a lockdown, and they have some of the most densely populated cities on earth - with no running water or supermarkets, nor anything close to sufficient medical facilities.
The death rate for 50 to 59 year olds is only 1.3% by contrast
It's only over 80s with a high death rate in Western countries with good medical systems - if this goes around India as it has everywhere else, it's not unreasonable to expect tens of millions of deaths.
I stand by my comments from weeks ago, that India will most likely have the highest death toll of any country when the virus is finally under control.0 -
The sane Brexiteers never had any truck with them in the first place.Jonathan said:I wonder if the more sane Brexiteers look at the recent antics of Aaron Banks, Tim Martin, Farage and co, who they held common cause and have a few quiet personal doubts.
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What appears to have finally done for Catherine Calderwood was the disclosure last night that she had apparently made TWO recent visits to her second home. Did she inexplicably omit to mention this small detail to Nicola Sturgeon, incredible as this may seem, as it was certain to come out?1
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LOL. Ironically the A400 was a clever product that was the just the right size for the many air forces that can't afford a US style tactical/strategic hub system. It's a shame it was so late and expensive and a PoUC.Sandpit said:
Even if the A400M is still a pile of unreliable crap.
It will probably be one of those aircraft that air forces will only come to appreciate once the production line is shut down and they can't have any more.0 -
There is little love lost between Tokyo and Beijingedmundintokyo said:
I don't know about the EU and the UK but I am highly confident that Japan is not going to do that.HYUFD said:
India will soon be the 3rd largest global economy, the US is the biggest global economy, a squeeze from them, the EU, the UK and Japan on China with economic sanctions if they do not close wet markets and improve lab safety would hit Beijing0 -
India or USA, I would imagine.Sandpit said:More than anything else, it's a lack of sufficient medical resources that determines the death rate. India is very much third world in this regard.
I stand by my comments from weeks ago, that India will most likely have the highest death toll of any country when the virus is finally under control.0 -
Looking forward it really should be possible to remove the bottom 25% of least efficient planes from service and still have surplus planes to go around. Only a major breakthrough in efficiency or carbon neutrality could justify investing in new planes for the next decade.MaxPB said:I seriously don't understand why the easyJet board are burying their heads in the sand. It's blatantly obvious that their forecasts are completely crap and they won't need the new planes. Asking for government money to buy new planes is just wrong. Hopefully Stelios completey dismantles the current board.
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At least it’s stopped him boring on about doing wheelies on his bmx or 34mph in a 30 zone in his souped up Nissan micrakle4 said:Worst of it is I know dura ace has a self satisfied erection right now. I showed them, I'm so cool and edgy, look at em get all mad. Should I have thrown in a swear as well to be extra cool? Nah, it's fine.
Bog standard contrarian stuff. Others are 'expected' to express sympathy, so show them up by not doing so.3 -
Clumsy to have the press conference and then the resignation an hour afterwards.Sandpit said:After all the reports that Sturgeon was having a good crisis, she's messed up this one quite spectacularly. How did she not think that the story would be top of the news until Calderwood quit?
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They should have been disowned absolutely after 2016. Hey ho. Damage done. Glad they are finally ostracised.MarqueeMark said:
The sane Brexiteers never had any truck with them in the first place.Jonathan said:I wonder if the more sane Brexiteers look at the recent antics of Aaron Banks, Tim Martin, Farage and co, who they held common cause and have a few quiet personal doubts.
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You might want to Google the "Thin Fat Indian" study of why so many Indians who look healthy develop "Western" diseases like insulin resistance or heart trouble.HYUFD said:
You only tend to need medical treatment on average if you are old or obese or with pre existing health conditions anywaySandpit said:
More than anything else, it's a lack of sufficient medical resources that determines the death rate. India is very much third world in this regard.HYUFD said:
It is high BMI and diabetes and cancer and heart conditions that increase your chances of dying from Covid 19, again those tend to be more diseases of age and of rich western nations and few Indians are obeseSandpit said:
That the average life expectancy in India is only 55, suggests that many people in their 40s and 50s are already seriously ill.HYUFD said:
Average life expectancy in India though is only 55 compared to 81 here and it is only over 80s who have a more than 10% death rate from Covid 19.Sandpit said:
India, more so than anywhere else, is going to be completely screwed by this virus.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
They can't enforce a lockdown, and they have some of the most densely populated cities on earth - with no running water or supermarkets, nor anything close to sufficient medical facilities.
The death rate for 50 to 59 year olds is only 1.3% by contrast
It's only over 80s with a high death rate in Western countries with good medical systems - if this goes around India as it has everywhere else, it's not unreasonable to expect tens of millions of deaths.
I stand by my comments from weeks ago, that India will most likely have the highest death toll of any country when the virus is finally under control.1 -
3 million TB cases equates to less than 1% of the Indian populationydoethur said:
Don't you think that the fact TB is very widespread in India, with 3 million confirmed, diagnosed cases, might cause something of an issue?HYUFD said:
It is high BMI and diabetes and cancer and heart conditions that increase your chances of dying from Covid 19, again those tend to be more diseases of age and of rich western nations and few Indians are obeseSandpit said:
That the average life expectancy in India is only 55, suggests that many people in their 40s and 50s are already seriously ill.HYUFD said:
Average life expectancy in India though is only 55 compared to 81 here and it is only over 80s who have a more than 10% death rate from Covid 19.Sandpit said:
India, more so than anywhere else, is going to be completely screwed by this virus.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
They can't enforce a lockdown, and they have some of the most densely populated cities on earth - with no running water or supermarkets, nor anything close to sufficient medical facilities.
The death rate for 50 to 59 year olds is only 1.3% by contrast
It's only over 80s with a high death rate in Western countries with good medical systems - if this goes around India as it has everywhere else, it's not unreasonable to expect tens of millions of deaths.0 -
That's already happening to some extent, lots of airlines retiring 747-400s and old A330s and A340s. If the 737-MAX ever gets flying again, probably a lot of older 737s and A320s to be retired too.DavidL said:
Looking forward it really should be possible to remove the bottom 25% of least efficient planes from service and still have surplus planes to go around. Only a major breakthrough in efficiency or carbon neutrality could justify investing in new planes for the next decade.MaxPB said:I seriously don't understand why the easyJet board are burying their heads in the sand. It's blatantly obvious that their forecasts are completely crap and they won't need the new planes. Asking for government money to buy new planes is just wrong. Hopefully Stelios completey dismantles the current board.
Second-hand planes of the last generation are going to be dirt-cheap to buy this year though, the economics of buying new vs used very much tilted in favour of the latter for any airline startup or expansion - doubly so with oil prices on the floor and fuel efficiency less of a factor in operating costs.0 -
I don't think "First World Problems" quite covers it.....
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Like, what, AIDS, malaria, TB, polio, dysentery, treatment resistant bacterial pneumonia, pollution-linked lung disease and malnutrition? To repeat a question I asked you the other day, have you ever been to any third world country?HYUFD said:
You only tend to need medical treatment on average if you are old or obese or with pre existing health conditions anywaySandpit said:
More than anything else, it's a lack of sufficient medical resources that determines the death rate. India is very much third world in this regard.HYUFD said:
It is high BMI and diabetes and cancer and heart conditions that increase your chances of dying from Covid 19, again those tend to be more diseases of age and of rich western nations and few Indians are obeseSandpit said:
That the average life expectancy in India is only 55, suggests that many people in their 40s and 50s are already seriously ill.HYUFD said:
Average life expectancy in India though is only 55 compared to 81 here and it is only over 80s who have a more than 10% death rate from Covid 19.Sandpit said:
India, more so than anywhere else, is going to be completely screwed by this virus.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
They can't enforce a lockdown, and they have some of the most densely populated cities on earth - with no running water or supermarkets, nor anything close to sufficient medical facilities.
The death rate for 50 to 59 year olds is only 1.3% by contrast
It's only over 80s with a high death rate in Western countries with good medical systems - if this goes around India as it has everywhere else, it's not unreasonable to expect tens of millions of deaths.
I stand by my comments from weeks ago, that India will most likely have the highest death toll of any country when the virus is finally under control.2 -
Suspend your derision Foxosceptics, but the other Dr Fox (Liam of that ilk) has written a very good explanatory piece on the virus with some ideas about phasing out the shut-down.
https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2020/04/liam-fox-the-virus-what-it-is-what-it-means-and-the-two-options-open-to-ministers-for-phasing-out-the-shutdown.html2 -
Yes, and who knew that what would eventually do for them would be misplaced apostrophe`s?Jonathan said:
They should have been disowned absolutely after 2016. Hey ho. Damage done. Glad they are finally ostracised.MarqueeMark said:
The sane Brexiteers never had any truck with them in the first place.Jonathan said:I wonder if the more sane Brexiteers look at the recent antics of Aaron Banks, Tim Martin, Farage and co, who they held common cause and have a few quiet personal doubts.
(That was deliberate.)0 -
Indeed but with 1.4 billion people in India they have the potential to build a manufacturing based export economy too, especially if they were encouraged/supported to do so in place of China.Endillion said:
Except that India has spent a lot of time and effort building up a services based export economy, which is one thing we definitely don't need. They don't really make much that we want, and I'm not clear what it is that they would want to buy from us (in large quantities, that isn't already being traded).Philip_Thompson said:
India's potential is not in its direct trade with China but more its billion people. On current trends India is expected very soon to overtake China as the world's most populous nation - it may already be in fact.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
If we were to seek an economic cold war with China (and I don't see it happening) then it isn't simply about consumerism, we would need to diversify production lines away from China. India could be an alternative trading partner.
Not saying it will happen, but its got potential.1 -
The Scottish CMO bungle was a foolish mistake but it has now been sorted and it's time to move on. There are much more important things to focus on now. Overall Sturgeon has played a straight bat during the crisis and I wouldn't damn her over this silly error.0
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You’ll probably be able to point to the figures and say ‘I was right’ although I bet the actual deaths will be several orders of magnitude greater.HYUFD said:
3 million TB cases equates to less than 1% of the Indian populationydoethur said:
Don't you think that the fact TB is very widespread in India, with 3 million confirmed, diagnosed cases, might cause something of an issue?HYUFD said:
It is high BMI and diabetes and cancer and heart conditions that increase your chances of dying from Covid 19, again those tend to be more diseases of age and of rich western nations and few Indians are obeseSandpit said:
That the average life expectancy in India is only 55, suggests that many people in their 40s and 50s are already seriously ill.HYUFD said:
Average life expectancy in India though is only 55 compared to 81 here and it is only over 80s who have a more than 10% death rate from Covid 19.Sandpit said:
India, more so than anywhere else, is going to be completely screwed by this virus.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
They can't enforce a lockdown, and they have some of the most densely populated cities on earth - with no running water or supermarkets, nor anything close to sufficient medical facilities.
The death rate for 50 to 59 year olds is only 1.3% by contrast
It's only over 80s with a high death rate in Western countries with good medical systems - if this goes around India as it has everywhere else, it's not unreasonable to expect tens of millions of deaths.0 -
How much of our spare bed capacity has actually been utilised? At the outset of this we were told that hospitals would be swamped, but there have been reports of empty hospitals.DavidL said:Today is quite an important day for new cases in the UK. There were tentative signs that we might have peaked a little earlier than forecast but yesterday was not a good day. Will that prove to be a blip or have we one more ratchet to come?
The slight reduction in new hospitalisations also indicated this. In the week before our official lockdown many, many companies and businesses took their own steps encouraging working from home, cancelling football matches and other public events etc. We are therefore a bit more into the lockdown than the official two weeks.
We are also seeing the first hints of a slow down on a global scale. A long way to go but we just might be past the explosive period of growth.0 -
It’s exhaust emissions that are going to be key. In the event that we ever build the new runway at Heathrow I would expect a “clean” standard below which planes will not be able to operate there and I expect this to become increasingly rigorous in all City airports in the west.Sandpit said:
That's already happening to some extent, lots of airlines retiring 747-400s and old A330s and A340s. If the 737-MAX ever gets flying again, probably a lot of older 737s and A320s to be retired too.DavidL said:
Looking forward it really should be possible to remove the bottom 25% of least efficient planes from service and still have surplus planes to go around. Only a major breakthrough in efficiency or carbon neutrality could justify investing in new planes for the next decade.MaxPB said:I seriously don't understand why the easyJet board are burying their heads in the sand. It's blatantly obvious that their forecasts are completely crap and they won't need the new planes. Asking for government money to buy new planes is just wrong. Hopefully Stelios completey dismantles the current board.
Second-hand planes of the last generation are going to be dirt-cheap to buy this year though, the economics of buying new vs used very much tilted in favour of the latter for any airline startup or expansion - doubly so with oil prices on the floor and fuel efficiency less of a factor in operating costs.0 -
Rather than come back angry scapegoating others I think a different kind of personal, I think it makes him more likely to come out and admit his own governments mistakes. With a “we were too slow” apology.Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
Ironically what this will do is completely detoxify attacks on his government for the early confusion and mixed messages and boost his own approval score to untouchable for ten years level.0 -
One of the best bets I never had, selling their share price at 1115pCarlottaVance said:0 -
Is it just me is there a hit of moralising creeping in when some people say that CV19 targets larger, older westerners. If only they had led purer lives...1
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Sounded like it!peter_from_putney said:What appears to have finally done for Catherine Calderwood was the disclosure last night that she had apparently made TWO recent visits to her second home. Did she inexplicably omit to mention this small detail to Nicola Sturgeon, incredible as this may seem, as it was certain to come out?
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It’s 50’s and under taking up the ventilators. Herd immunity died this weekend.Chris said:
No, no - everyone except the over-70s must get this for the good of the economy.Nigelb said:
Seconded.AlastairMeeks said:Get well soon, Prime Minister.
This tweet from a Canadian doctor is worrying, and not just for the Prime Minister:
https://twitter.com/shanxonline/status/1246976779400753155?s=21
This is a market I have zero interest in betting on.0 -
Still find it extraordinary how she messed this up, given that Calderwood's position was clearly impossible as soon as the news broke.kinabalu said:
Clumsy to have the press conference and then the resignation an hour afterwards.Sandpit said:After all the reports that Sturgeon was having a good crisis, she's messed up this one quite spectacularly. How did she not think that the story would be top of the news until Calderwood quit?
If her resignation had been immediately accepted, or she'd been sacked, that would have rammed across the message that non-essential travel must stop. In other words it could have been used to advantage
Instead, the impression given was that it's not so important, a point the various twerps who refuse to accept that they should be inconvenienced will have got. And, even more poisonously, it's one rule for the priviligentsia and another for everyone else.
And to compound it, by stating that Calderwood was indispensible to her personally, Sturgeon has simultaneously damaged her own credibility for dealing with Covid and undermined the position of Calderwood's deputy who will presumably now take over.
Appreciate that to everyone south of the border this all may seem a bit inconsequential - but it looks different up here, given the political context.
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Blimey! I totally get how Stelios would be exercised by this - he built the company and now the current board seem likely to sink it.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Its a rare mis-step from a pretty sure-footed politician.Sandpit said:
After all the reports that Sturgeon was having a good crisis, she's messed up this one quite spectacularly. How did she not think that the story would be top of the news until Calderwood quit?CarlottaVance said:1 -
Do you think the three people you mention were good, trustworthy blokes up until recently then?Jonathan said:I wonder if the more sane Brexiteers look at the recent antics of Aaron Banks, Tim Martin, Farage and co, who they held common cause and have a few quiet personal doubts.
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Has it occurred to you that given the, shall we say, patchy medical coverage in India it might be a very significant underestimate? WHO estimates it at around 3% - and that in itself may be on the low side.HYUFD said:
3 million TB cases equates to less than 1% of the Indian populationydoethur said:
Don't you think that the fact TB is very widespread in India, with 3 million confirmed, diagnosed cases, might cause something of an issue?HYUFD said:
It is high BMI and diabetes and cancer and heart conditions that increase your chances of dying from Covid 19, again those tend to be more diseases of age and of rich western nations and few Indians are obeseSandpit said:
That the average life expectancy in India is only 55, suggests that many people in their 40s and 50s are already seriously ill.HYUFD said:
Average life expectancy in India though is only 55 compared to 81 here and it is only over 80s who have a more than 10% death rate from Covid 19.Sandpit said:
India, more so than anywhere else, is going to be completely screwed by this virus.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
They can't enforce a lockdown, and they have some of the most densely populated cities on earth - with no running water or supermarkets, nor anything close to sufficient medical facilities.
The death rate for 50 to 59 year olds is only 1.3% by contrast
It's only over 80s with a high death rate in Western countries with good medical systems - if this goes around India as it has everywhere else, it's not unreasonable to expect tens of millions of deaths.0 -
Small piece of good news. Our personal Springwatch birdbox definitely has a pair of blue-tits building a nest in it. We hope to see eggs in a week or so, particularly if yesterday's weather is repeated.
Much more entertaining than daytime TV, even allowing for watching what we've recorded, Netflix or whatever.3 -
You would have donated them to Local care homes for free. That’s why we love you Rose.Mysticrose said:Back in January when I could see what might be coming and ordered my filtration mask at £9.99 I did think for a few seconds about ordering 200 of them.
Only for a few seconds. Yes, I'd have made a lot of money from the re-sale but my life isn't just about money making.
But you do need to go back to bed monetarily this morning, and then emerge from a different side.0 -
Or less pure lives, and died younger?Jonathan said:Is it just me is there a hit of moralising creeping in when some people say that CV19 targets larger, older westerners. If only they had led purer lives...
It's hardly news that living an unhealthy lifestyle makes you more susceptible to a range of illnesses. I think most people in the West have now come to terms with the fact that it's a trade off that some people will accept, and some won't.0 -
The whole thing was really quite bizarre. As @ydoethur pointed out yesterday HR issues are not Nicola’s strong point although in fairness her weakness seems to be a strong loyalty to those close to her. But how anyone thought that it could be sensible to rely upon the judgment of someone so patently lacking it either in her original decisions or in failing to resign immediately is genuinely beyond me.kinabalu said:
Clumsy to have the press conference and then the resignation an hour afterwards.Sandpit said:After all the reports that Sturgeon was having a good crisis, she's messed up this one quite spectacularly. How did she not think that the story would be top of the news until Calderwood quit?
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Well, yes and no. People could look after their health. Not smoke, eat properly, get exercise, not drink to excess. Type 2 diabetes is largely a lifestyle choice. Unfortunately I think standard Western dietary advice doesn't help (I'm low carb)Jonathan said:Is it just me is there a hit of moralising creeping in when some people say that CV19 targets larger, older westerners. If only they had led purer lives...
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Betting post... I reckon Dems to be popular vote winner (2020) at 1.65 is value. That equates to a 60% chance, but I think it's much higher.
Biden has led in virtually every head to head matchup in national polling. And for Trump to win re-election, he really shouldn't even try to win the popular vote.1 -
What's baffling is that current shareholders are happy to go in for a fundraising round but the board are ploughing on with asking for state help. Wtf is going on at easyJet.RochdalePioneers said:
Blimey! I totally get how Stelios would be exercised by this - he built the company and now the current board seem likely to sink it.CarlottaVance said:0 -
I think it is politics that is creeping in sadly. A pity because we really don't need too mjch of that right now. Thus far it's only been idiot journalists like Peston but the post crisis period is going to be very hard as well. The country, indeed the world, requires its rulers to be grown up right now and for some time to come.Jonathan said:Is it just me is there a hit of moralising creeping in when some people say that CV19 targets larger, older westerners. If only they had led purer lives...
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Thanks geoffw - that`s a superb article.geoffw said:Suspend your derision Foxosceptics, but the other Dr Fox (Liam of that ilk) has written a very good explanatory piece on the virus with some ideas about phasing out the shut-down.
https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2020/04/liam-fox-the-virus-what-it-is-what-it-means-and-the-two-options-open-to-ministers-for-phasing-out-the-shutdown.html
Not sure the extent of Fox`s input into current policy, but I hope he`s in the mix somewhere.2 -
Yes, absolutely. This already happens at LHR and I'd expect the rules to be tougher in future.DavidL said:
It’s exhaust emissions that are going to be key. In the event that we ever build the new runway at Heathrow I would expect a “clean” standard below which planes will not be able to operate there and I expect this to become increasingly rigorous in all City airports in the west.Sandpit said:
That's already happening to some extent, lots of airlines retiring 747-400s and old A330s and A340s. If the 737-MAX ever gets flying again, probably a lot of older 737s and A320s to be retired too.DavidL said:
Looking forward it really should be possible to remove the bottom 25% of least efficient planes from service and still have surplus planes to go around. Only a major breakthrough in efficiency or carbon neutrality could justify investing in new planes for the next decade.MaxPB said:I seriously don't understand why the easyJet board are burying their heads in the sand. It's blatantly obvious that their forecasts are completely crap and they won't need the new planes. Asking for government money to buy new planes is just wrong. Hopefully Stelios completey dismantles the current board.
Second-hand planes of the last generation are going to be dirt-cheap to buy this year though, the economics of buying new vs used very much tilted in favour of the latter for any airline startup or expansion - doubly so with oil prices on the floor and fuel efficiency less of a factor in operating costs.
I'd also expect APD to be redefined as being per plane based on weight and emissions rather than per passenger, in a similar way to how car tax now works.0 -
How quickly Boris is forgotten! For it is he and not Corbyn who suppressed the report on interference in the election. The clue's in his name FFS.egg said:
Yes. The party’s been far too soft on Russia under Corbyn.MattW said:Sir Kevin's appointment of Lisa Nandy to Foreign Secretary interests me.
As I read her campaign, her policy innovations were more around things at home and in society.
Did she say much about Foreign Policy?0 -
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The only way I would be happy with another consortium aircraft with the Germans would be if we (the UK) claim that we will buying 100,000 aircraft. To get the lions share of the work. Then we can renage on the buy later by threatening to collapse the project - and buy 300 or something.Dura_Ace said:
Tempest and FCAS and going to have to be (somehow) mashed together because there aren't going to be two European 6th gens.Sandpit said:
Wouldn't want to be Airbus (or Boeing) right now. They'll be praying for military contracts to hold up, because the commercial ones are all going to get cancelled as airlines go bust or reduce in size.CarlottaVance said:
Airbus Military's catalog is pretty slim beyond that. Every who wants an A400M now has more than they need, A330MRTT is a solid platform but who else is going to buy it? Then there's that extra C295 that Kazakhstan keep promising to buy.
Boeing DS&S have KC-46, T-7, F-15EX and will probably get one of F/A-XX or NGAD. They look relatively healthy.0 -
By continuing to get into bed with them as the Tories have been doing the last 10 years.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.0 -
If what he's writing is right, that UK taxpayers are ultimately bailing out a Franco-German company then there's remarkable deja vu with the last economic crisis when other nations taxpayers ultimately bailed out French and German banks.RochdalePioneers said:
Blimey! I totally get how Stelios would be exercised by this - he built the company and now the current board seem likely to sink it.CarlottaVance said:
WTF is the board thinking?0 -
I wonder why the officers were distressed?isam said:2 -
“ antibody test is testing for antibodies“kamski said:
Of course the antibody test is testing for antibodies.CD13 said:Mr Kamski,
The antibody titre doesn't reach a maximum until some weeks after infection. if there's virus in the blood, it's a bloody peculiar virus and the antibody test doesn't check for virus RNA in the bloodstream anyway. Why would it?
But thanks for the clarification - it's a cock-up by the BBC and the Guardian account is merely garbled. As for diagnostic tests … that's why they are validated before being allowed on the market. Oh, and nothing is 100% certain. I will probably die eventually but that's all that is certain.
I still think I'm immortal, though.
Nevertheless it's just plain wrong to say "If you're testing for the antibody, there shouldn't be any virus left in the person's blood"
It's certainly plausible that testing for IgM will be useful in quickly confirming a Covid-19 diagnosis. And more generally, as antibodies are detectable from a week from infection there's no reason why there shouldn't be any virus "left in the person's blood" when you do an antibody test.
The virus is not in the blood, but in the respiratory system.
If you're going to criticise others for the inaccuracies then try to be accurate yourself.
Am I an antibody can I have one?0 -
There are umpteen planets in our solar system which revolves around the sun, one of millions and billions of stars in the galaxy, and there are millions and billions of galaxies in the universe, which is just one of an infinite number of universes in the ... ???HYUFD said:
And here's us shutting down pubs to save a few thousand earthly lives.
#perspective0 -
Yes, I know Paul Mason went a bit mad, but the it does look like BoZo's original response to COVID-19 was all about Brexit...
https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1247075759598026755
That may not play out to his ultimate advantage...1 -
Are you saying Johnson is going to screw the Chinese?egg said:
By continuing to get into bed with them as the Tories have been doing the last 10 years.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.0 -
It's the wrong size - too big to be a C-130 replacement and too small to do what the C-141 can do.Dura_Ace said:
LOL. Ironically the A400 was a clever product that was the just the right size for the many air forces that can't afford a US style tactical/strategic hub system. It's a shame it was so late and expensive and a PoUC.Sandpit said:
Even if the A400M is still a pile of unreliable crap.
It will probably be one of those aircraft that air forces will only come to appreciate once the production line is shut down and they can't have any more.
The turboprops were a terrible idea - *after* rough field turbofan capability had been demonstrated.1 -
A disgusting comment surely worthy of a ban by OGH.Dura_Ace said:
No "we" don't.Casino_Royale said:
And we all wish Boris a full and complete recovery.3 -
I am not a Sturgeon fan but I agree.felix said:The Scottish CMO bungle was a foolish mistake but it has now been sorted and it's time to move on. There are much more important things to focus on now. Overall Sturgeon has played a straight bat during the crisis and I wouldn't damn her over this silly error.
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‘Bozo’. Classy 🙌🏻Scott_xP said:Yes, I know Paul Mason went a bit mad, but the it does look like BoZo's original response to COVID-19 was all about Brexit...
https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1247075759598026755
That may not play out to his ultimate advantage...0 -
Salmond has released his hounds.felix said:The Scottish CMO bungle was a foolish mistake but it has now been sorted and it's time to move on. There are much more important things to focus on now. Overall Sturgeon has played a straight bat during the crisis and I wouldn't damn her over this silly error.
Normally the press north of the border only have their toenails showing.0 -
Is being a disgusting, contemptible, vile, subhuman nasty piece of work actually against the rules?peter_from_putney said:
A disgusting comment surely worthy of a ban by OGH.Dura_Ace said:
No "we" don't.Casino_Royale said:
And we all wish Boris a full and complete recovery.4 -
I would be delighted if they over estimated demand and have no criticism for preparations in that respect. In Tayside we had 410 cases to yesterday and I would expect at least half of these to be treated in Ninewells. This is not a large number and stories of doctors with little to do proliferate. Much of the time is being spent retraining staff so that they can be more useful in the event that they are called upon. Scotland as a whole has 220 deaths, significantly below our share of the population. I looked at those heart wrenching videos of nurses struggling to cope over the weekend and it is evident that there are areas where this is every bit as bad as feared. Scotland, especially out with Glasgow, is really not suffering this right now.Beibheirli_C said:
How much of our spare bed capacity has actually been utilised? At the outset of this we were told that hospitals would be swamped, but there have been reports of empty hospitals.DavidL said:Today is quite an important day for new cases in the UK. There were tentative signs that we might have peaked a little earlier than forecast but yesterday was not a good day. Will that prove to be a blip or have we one more ratchet to come?
The slight reduction in new hospitalisations also indicated this. In the week before our official lockdown many, many companies and businesses took their own steps encouraging working from home, cancelling football matches and other public events etc. We are therefore a bit more into the lockdown than the official two weeks.
We are also seeing the first hints of a slow down on a global scale. A long way to go but we just might be past the explosive period of growth.2 -
Without calling you and your heroic colleagues Guinean pigs, the amount of virus you will continue to be exposed to will be good test of reinfection?Foxy said:
2, South Korea has not discovered evidence of reinfection, though that is not impossible. It has detected cases where the viral antigen test has become positive again. There are a variety of possibilities why this maybe so.Mysticrose said:Despite raising the prospect this time yesterday I couldn't bring myself to bet on this market. It just felt immoral for me personally. I wish Boris a speedy recovery.
The amount of rubbish being spread on social media and the vigilantism is quite disturbing. If you want to see herd mentality it's currently in strident form. Going outside does not 'per se' spread the virus and it's important for the nation's physical and mental wellbeing. Keep your distance, wear protective gear, but DO get out.
Two rather alarming news stories this morning.
1. The tiger that has tested positive in NYC.
2. South Korea's apparent discovery of re-infection. The latter is big trouble if it's corroborated. It would mean we become totally reliant on a cure or vaccine and not just immunity. We will have to await further tests on this.0 -
But those 165,000 cancer sufferers don't all descend on their local hospitals within a few weeks?HYUFD said:3 -
Regional variations in hospitalisation rates - some parts of London are heavily loaded. Some parts of the rest of the country are barely loaded.Beibheirli_C said:
How much of our spare bed capacity has actually been utilised? At the outset of this we were told that hospitals would be swamped, but there have been reports of empty hospitals.DavidL said:Today is quite an important day for new cases in the UK. There were tentative signs that we might have peaked a little earlier than forecast but yesterday was not a good day. Will that prove to be a blip or have we one more ratchet to come?
The slight reduction in new hospitalisations also indicated this. In the week before our official lockdown many, many companies and businesses took their own steps encouraging working from home, cancelling football matches and other public events etc. We are therefore a bit more into the lockdown than the official two weeks.
We are also seeing the first hints of a slow down on a global scale. A long way to go but we just might be past the explosive period of growth.1 -
I recall that there was a Minister for Shells in WWI. Not sure whether it helped.HYUFD said:0 -
I would expect at least one African country to beat them per capita. Egypt, Ethipoia Nigeria might beat the US absolutely, especially if you factor in indirect consequences for the economy and food production.kinabalu said:
India or USA, I would imagine.Sandpit said:More than anything else, it's a lack of sufficient medical resources that determines the death rate. India is very much third world in this regard.
I stand by my comments from weeks ago, that India will most likely have the highest death toll of any country when the virus is finally under control.1 -
Do you mean the C17 rather than the C141? The C141 has been out of service for nearly fifteen years.Malmesbury said:
It's the wrong size - too big to be a C-130 replacement and too small to do what the C-141 can do.Dura_Ace said:
LOL. Ironically the A400 was a clever product that was the just the right size for the many air forces that can't afford a US style tactical/strategic hub system. It's a shame it was so late and expensive and a PoUC.Sandpit said:
Even if the A400M is still a pile of unreliable crap.
It will probably be one of those aircraft that air forces will only come to appreciate once the production line is shut down and they can't have any more.
The turboprops were a terrible idea - *after* rough field turbofan capability had been demonstrated.1 -
If it is 50s and under taking up the ventilators, that will surely be because they are being given priority over 60s and older. I suspect that the NHS is keeping its head (just) above water only through ruthless targeting of resources.egg said:
It’s 50’s and under taking up the ventilators. Herd immunity died this weekend.Chris said:
No, no - everyone except the over-70s must get this for the good of the economy.Nigelb said:
Seconded.AlastairMeeks said:Get well soon, Prime Minister.
This tweet from a Canadian doctor is worrying, and not just for the Prime Minister:
https://twitter.com/shanxonline/status/1246976779400753155?s=21
This is a market I have zero interest in betting on.0 -
Only 2% increase in new cases in Valencia today lets hope were getting there!3
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Agreed. I've seen an increasing number of articles in recent years arguing that India should have done precisely this decades ago, rather than (or at least as well as) positioning itself as the world's outsourced call centre. But it'll take a very long time to reposition.Philip_Thompson said:
Indeed but with 1.4 billion people in India they have the potential to build a manufacturing based export economy too, especially if they were encouraged/supported to do so in place of China.Endillion said:
Except that India has spent a lot of time and effort building up a services based export economy, which is one thing we definitely don't need. They don't really make much that we want, and I'm not clear what it is that they would want to buy from us (in large quantities, that isn't already being traded).Philip_Thompson said:
India's potential is not in its direct trade with China but more its billion people. On current trends India is expected very soon to overtake China as the world's most populous nation - it may already be in fact.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
If we were to seek an economic cold war with China (and I don't see it happening) then it isn't simply about consumerism, we would need to diversify production lines away from China. India could be an alternative trading partner.
Not saying it will happen, but its got potential.
The other problem is that I'm not actually convinced they have anything like as much in the way of natural resources as China does.0 -
What’s been so interesting in recent years, big hitters who went for leaderships no longer in party’s. Betting tip. Nandy no longer to be in Labour in 4 years time, she is far too right wing and out of step with the Labour Party.LostPassword said:It will be interesting to see whether Nandy is allowed to develop Brexit policy from shadow Foreign secretary, or if it's just somewhere to keep her out of the way in domestic policy.
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Yes - sorry. Early morning brain.ydoethur said:
Do you mean the C17 rather than the C141? The C141 has been out of service for nearly fifteen years.Malmesbury said:
It's the wrong size - too big to be a C-130 replacement and too small to do what the C-141 can do.Dura_Ace said:
LOL. Ironically the A400 was a clever product that was the just the right size for the many air forces that can't afford a US style tactical/strategic hub system. It's a shame it was so late and expensive and a PoUC.Sandpit said:
Even if the A400M is still a pile of unreliable crap.
It will probably be one of those aircraft that air forces will only come to appreciate once the production line is shut down and they can't have any more.
The turboprops were a terrible idea - *after* rough field turbofan capability had been demonstrated.
The RAF drool at the thought of more C-17s.0 -
The Palestinian authority, parts of Mauritius which were less wealthy but it is pre existing health conditions that impact on Covid 19 death rate only which are relevantIshmaelZ said:
Like, what, AIDS, malaria, TB, polio, dysentery, treatment resistant bacterial pneumonia, pollution-linked lung disease and malnutrition? To repeat a question I asked you the other day, have you ever been to any third world country?HYUFD said:
You only tend to need medical treatment on average if you are old or obese or with pre existing health conditions anywaySandpit said:
More than anything else, it's a lack of sufficient medical resources that determines the death rate. India is very much third world in this regard.HYUFD said:
It is high BMI and diabetes and cancer and heart conditions that increase your chances of dying from Covid 19, again those tend to be more diseases of age and of rich western nations and few Indians are obeseSandpit said:
That the average life expectancy in India is only 55, suggests that many people in their 40s and 50s are already seriously ill.HYUFD said:
Average life expectancy in India though is only 55 compared to 81 here and it is only over 80s who have a more than 10% death rate from Covid 19.Sandpit said:
India, more so than anywhere else, is going to be completely screwed by this virus.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
They can't enforce a lockdown, and they have some of the most densely populated cities on earth - with no running water or supermarkets, nor anything close to sufficient medical facilities.
The death rate for 50 to 59 year olds is only 1.3% by contrast
It's only over 80s with a high death rate in Western countries with good medical systems - if this goes around India as it has everywhere else, it's not unreasonable to expect tens of millions of deaths.
I stand by my comments from weeks ago, that India will most likely have the highest death toll of any country when the virus is finally under control.0 -
It made journalists feel better.LostPassword said:
I recall that there was a Minister for Shells in WWI. Not sure whether it helped.HYUFD said:
Actually getting more shells was about getting more machinery setup to make lathes for turning shells.0 -
No apStocky said:
Yes, and who knew that what would eventually do for them would be misplaced apostrophe`s?Jonathan said:
They should have been disowned absolutely after 2016. Hey ho. Damage done. Glad they are finally ostracised.MarqueeMark said:
The sane Brexiteers never had any truck with them in the first place.Jonathan said:I wonder if the more sane Brexiteers look at the recent antics of Aaron Banks, Tim Martin, Farage and co, who they held common cause and have a few quiet personal doubts.
(That was deliberate.)
Umpteen planets? Umpteen? There are only 8 now Pluto has been downgraded.....kinabalu said:
There are umpteen planets in our solar system which revolves around the sun, one of millions and billions of stars in the galaxy, and there are millions and billions of galaxies in the universe, which is just one of an infinite number of universes in the ... ???HYUFD said:
And here's us shutting down pubs to save a few thousand earthly lives.
#perspective2 -
Hope Boris gets well soon. Was wondering- if a temporary PM was required could Theresa come back for a bit?0
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They'll just have to take fluids on then, as the production line shut down five years ago.Malmesbury said:
Yes - sorry. Early morning brain.ydoethur said:
Do you mean the C17 rather than the C141? The C141 has been out of service for nearly fifteen years.Malmesbury said:
It's the wrong size - too big to be a C-130 replacement and too small to do what the C-141 can do.Dura_Ace said:
LOL. Ironically the A400 was a clever product that was the just the right size for the many air forces that can't afford a US style tactical/strategic hub system. It's a shame it was so late and expensive and a PoUC.Sandpit said:
Even if the A400M is still a pile of unreliable crap.
It will probably be one of those aircraft that air forces will only come to appreciate once the production line is shut down and they can't have any more.
The turboprops were a terrible idea - *after* rough field turbofan capability had been demonstrated.
The RAF drool at the thought of more C-17s.
From all I know of it though, it's a pretty impressive aircraft, in terms of capacity, payload, range, speed and ability to land in many places.0 -
The appointment of such Tsars, as Blair liked to call them, would be more meetings, more liaison, disrupted lines of communication and accountability and a semblance of activity rather than a result. You don’t even have to know Peston thinks it’s a good idea to see it’s a bad one.LostPassword said:
I recall that there was a Minister for Shells in WWI. Not sure whether it helped.HYUFD said:2 -
Ha! The brain dead “mast burners” are out in force this morning 😆Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.0 -
Does anyone know has @Andy_Cooke 's log chart of deaths per capita been updated in recent days? Or has anyone else done something comparable?0
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Please, stop wondering. It's not good for you.GarethoftheVale2 said:Hope Boris gets well soon. Was wondering- if a temporary PM was required could Theresa come back for a bit?
Or us.1 -
There was a possible re-start a couple of years back - the costs of a re-start get more expensive as the years pass, but the USAF is also interested in more. The problem is the politics in the US of spending in those congressional districts don't work out.ydoethur said:
They'll just have to take fluids on then, as the production line shut down five years ago.Malmesbury said:
Yes - sorry. Early morning brain.ydoethur said:
Do you mean the C17 rather than the C141? The C141 has been out of service for nearly fifteen years.Malmesbury said:
It's the wrong size - too big to be a C-130 replacement and too small to do what the C-141 can do.Dura_Ace said:
LOL. Ironically the A400 was a clever product that was the just the right size for the many air forces that can't afford a US style tactical/strategic hub system. It's a shame it was so late and expensive and a PoUC.Sandpit said:
Even if the A400M is still a pile of unreliable crap.
It will probably be one of those aircraft that air forces will only come to appreciate once the production line is shut down and they can't have any more.
The turboprops were a terrible idea - *after* rough field turbofan capability had been demonstrated.
The RAF drool at the thought of more C-17s.
From all I know of it though, it's a pretty impressive aircraft, in terms of capacity, payload, range, speed and ability to land in many places.0 -
We could just do another TSR2 (Vickers front half, EE hindquarters). French/German front with British/Italian/Swedish rear. Nothing could possibly go wrong.Malmesbury said:
The only way I would be happy with another consortium aircraft with the Germans would be if we (the UK) claim that we will buying 100,000 aircraft. To get the lions share of the work. Then we can renage on the buy later by threatening to collapse the project - and buy 300 or something.0 -
Given her age and diabetes, I'm amazed she's not been in strict lockdown for the last two months. I think she even attended Corbyn's final PMQs, which I was stunned to see.GarethoftheVale2 said:Hope Boris gets well soon. Was wondering- if a temporary PM was required could Theresa come back for a bit?
So the answer's no.0 -
Maybe he should hold himself to account for his irresponsible policies and personally reckless behaviour.egg said:
Ha! The brain dead “mast burners” are out in force this morning 😆Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.-1 -
Having type 1 diabetes she's at very high risk with this virus. She'd be much better off self-isolating in Maidstone with Philip.GarethoftheVale2 said:Hope Boris gets well soon. Was wondering- if a temporary PM was required could Theresa come back for a bit?
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97 civil servants with no experience in aircraft design deciding the location of a single switch.....Dura_Ace said:
We could just do another TSR2 (Vickers front half, EE hindquarters). French/German front with British/Italian/Swedish rear. Nothing could possibly go wrong.Malmesbury said:
The only way I would be happy with another consortium aircraft with the Germans would be if we (the UK) claim that we will buying 100,000 aircraft. To get the lions share of the work. Then we can renage on the buy later by threatening to collapse the project - and buy 300 or something.0 -
And the benefit of that would be?GarethoftheVale2 said:Hope Boris gets well soon. Was wondering- if a temporary PM was required could Theresa come back for a bit?
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Damien McBride summed it up - all the things he wanted the government to do were spin. Rather than actual ... actions.DavidL said:
The appointment of such Tsars, as Blair liked to call them, would be more meetings, more liaison, disrupted lines of communication and accountability and a semblance of activity rather than a result. You don’t even have to know Peston thinks it’s a good idea to see it’s a bad one.LostPassword said:
I recall that there was a Minister for Shells in WWI. Not sure whether it helped.HYUFD said:0 -
Poor Pluto. I am not sure it’s ever got over being reduced to dwarf status.MarqueeMark said:
No apStocky said:
Yes, and who knew that what would eventually do for them would be misplaced apostrophe`s?Jonathan said:
They should have been disowned absolutely after 2016. Hey ho. Damage done. Glad they are finally ostracised.MarqueeMark said:
The sane Brexiteers never had any truck with them in the first place.Jonathan said:I wonder if the more sane Brexiteers look at the recent antics of Aaron Banks, Tim Martin, Farage and co, who they held common cause and have a few quiet personal doubts.
(That was deliberate.)
Umpteen planets? Umpteen? There are only 8 now Pluto has been downgraded.....kinabalu said:
There are umpteen planets in our solar system which revolves around the sun, one of millions and billions of stars in the galaxy, and there are millions and billions of galaxies in the universe, which is just one of an infinite number of universes in the ... ???HYUFD said:
And here's us shutting down pubs to save a few thousand earthly lives.
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I don't see why a temporary PM would be necessary if the PM was to worsen but survive and simply be unable to work for a period. Are there functions solely the PM can do?
Surely the PM just remains the PM, the Cabinet remains the Cabinet and the Cabinet make decisions until the PM recovers?0 -
What rules? Surely lowering the tone down to the cesspit level should count for a ban.Philip_Thompson said:
Is being a disgusting, contemptible, vile, subhuman nasty piece of work actually against the rules?peter_from_putney said:
A disgusting comment surely worthy of a ban by OGH.Dura_Ace said:
No "we" don't.Casino_Royale said:
And we all wish Boris a full and complete recovery.1 -
That's a no, then. And what on earth makes you think that you can read across from data about the first world and China to countries like India? What do you think of this argument: victims in China and Europe are predominantly yellow or white skinned; the vast majority of Indians are brown skinned; therefore India will be largely immune to the disease?HYUFD said:
The Palestinian authority, parts of Mauritius which were less wealthy but it is pre existing health conditions that impact on Covid 19 death rate only which are relevantIshmaelZ said:
Like, what, AIDS, malaria, TB, polio, dysentery, treatment resistant bacterial pneumonia, pollution-linked lung disease and malnutrition? To repeat a question I asked you the other day, have you ever been to any third world country?HYUFD said:
You only tend to need medical treatment on average if you are old or obese or with pre existing health conditions anywaySandpit said:
More than anything else, it's a lack of sufficient medical resources that determines the death rate. India is very much third world in this regard.HYUFD said:
It is high BMI and diabetes and cancer and heart conditions that increase your chances of dying from Covid 19, again those tend to be more diseases of age and of rich western nations and few Indians are obeseSandpit said:
That the average life expectancy in India is only 55, suggests that many people in their 40s and 50s are already seriously ill.HYUFD said:
Average life expectancy in India though is only 55 compared to 81 here and it is only over 80s who have a more than 10% death rate from Covid 19.Sandpit said:
India, more so than anywhere else, is going to be completely screwed by this virus.kamski said:
India accounts for just 2% of China's foreign trade (3% of exports and 1% of imports - which just emphasises how little India has of anything that China wants or needs).HYUFD said:
Not necessarily, Macron, Abe, Modi and Trudeau have shown they will work with Trump when requiredCasino_Royale said:
Coordinating foreign and economic policy across the West and with India.logical_song said:
Just how eaxactly will Boris 'hold China to account'?Casino_Royale said:
China are responsible for failing to put their own house in order, lying about it and then spreading propaganda and misinformation worldwide.logical_song said:
'Hold China to account' - Are you suggesting it was deliberate?Casino_Royale said:When he fully recovers Boris might be even more determined to hold China to account.
He will have been close to the abyss and it will be personal.
This could open a whole can of worms. Some may want to hold the UK to account for slavery or the industrial revolution.
The UK stuff is a lot of left-wing piss and wind.
This might well depend on Trump losing the White House in November though.
But it is, tragically, currently led by an extreme far-right anti-democratic ethno-nationalist, so maybe that is why you are often so keen on India?
They can't enforce a lockdown, and they have some of the most densely populated cities on earth - with no running water or supermarkets, nor anything close to sufficient medical facilities.
The death rate for 50 to 59 year olds is only 1.3% by contrast
It's only over 80s with a high death rate in Western countries with good medical systems - if this goes around India as it has everywhere else, it's not unreasonable to expect tens of millions of deaths.
I stand by my comments from weeks ago, that India will most likely have the highest death toll of any country when the virus is finally under control.0 -
Caused a deal of unforeseen problems in the world of astrology, so I'm told.DavidL said:
Poor Pluto. I am not sure it’s ever got over being reduced to dwarf status.MarqueeMark said:
No apStocky said:
Yes, and who knew that what would eventually do for them would be misplaced apostrophe`s?Jonathan said:
They should have been disowned absolutely after 2016. Hey ho. Damage done. Glad they are finally ostracised.MarqueeMark said:
The sane Brexiteers never had any truck with them in the first place.Jonathan said:I wonder if the more sane Brexiteers look at the recent antics of Aaron Banks, Tim Martin, Farage and co, who they held common cause and have a few quiet personal doubts.
(That was deliberate.)
Umpteen planets? Umpteen? There are only 8 now Pluto has been downgraded.....kinabalu said:
There are umpteen planets in our solar system which revolves around the sun, one of millions and billions of stars in the galaxy, and there are millions and billions of galaxies in the universe, which is just one of an infinite number of universes in the ... ???HYUFD said:
And here's us shutting down pubs to save a few thousand earthly lives.
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You'd have thought they've have been able to see that coming...OldKingCole said:
Caused a deal of unforeseen problems in the world of astrology, so I'm told.DavidL said:
Poor Pluto. I am not sure it’s ever got over being reduced to dwarf status.MarqueeMark said:
No apStocky said:
Yes, and who knew that what would eventually do for them would be misplaced apostrophe`s?Jonathan said:
They should have been disowned absolutely after 2016. Hey ho. Damage done. Glad they are finally ostracised.MarqueeMark said:
The sane Brexiteers never had any truck with them in the first place.Jonathan said:I wonder if the more sane Brexiteers look at the recent antics of Aaron Banks, Tim Martin, Farage and co, who they held common cause and have a few quiet personal doubts.
(That was deliberate.)
Umpteen planets? Umpteen? There are only 8 now Pluto has been downgraded.....kinabalu said:
There are umpteen planets in our solar system which revolves around the sun, one of millions and billions of stars in the galaxy, and there are millions and billions of galaxies in the universe, which is just one of an infinite number of universes in the ... ???HYUFD said:
And here's us shutting down pubs to save a few thousand earthly lives.
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