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I have resigned from Cabinet and surrendered the Conservative Whip.
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Maybe the Wets can takeover the LDs. At least then when Brexit is behind us there's a party that could align with the Tories. Then the LDs can die again.
@ydoethur said:
"I think one point we are all forgetting - particularly when looking at the polling - is that acts that are illegal, unconstitutional or downright crazy are not necessarily unpopular. A few obvious examples spring to mind - Bonar Law's support for the UVF, Thatcher's use of the police without showing their numbers in the miners' strike, George III sacking Portland in 1783. And that's just in this country - de Gaulle's coup in 1958 would also be a good example. The key was the people doing the rule breaking were popular and those being hammered were not.
Johnson remains personally popular due to his TV appearances, and he is offering to leave the EU which, like it or not, whether its supporters know what they're doing or not, is a popular programme. So the fact he is breaking every rule in the book and a number that aren't may not condemn him as it should."
My response:-
Indeed. It is one reason why I think his approach could win him the next GE.
But it is still wrong. Breaking the law is wrong. And having a government which does this degrades our polity, degrades our country and should be criticised. Morality and legality do not depend on popularity. They matter more - in the end - than popularity. Without integrity we are nothing as a people or as a country, however unfashionable or unpopular it may be to say so.
Suspect she just took the position so she'd be able to resign and go out in a blaze of glory?
Tory leads of 3%, 10% and 14% show that we need to take all polling with a pinch of salt.
Betfair Exchange has hardly moved on NOM, Tory majority odds.
Political events will as ever drive opinion and there is a hell of lot of this match to play...
Corbyn has to come out now. completely in favour of revote and revoke, to staunch the bleeding of votes to the Lib Dems.
It's too late for him to stop Labour being roundly beaten in any election, but right now he risks - as you say - Labour being supplanted as the opposition.
Again I predicted this last week. If Britain post Bexitref copies Scotland post indyref, then the party most opposed to Brexit - Lib Dems - should greatly benefit from the polarisation, just as the Scots Tories benefited from being the hardcore Unionist party.
https://twitter.com/rtayloruk/status/1020721701112483841?s=21
Came here to break the Amber news and it's already a header!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NofWFKSMiM4
TSE's header is rather biased, as well.
Overinflated ego. Should have been one of the 21.
Does he think that an MP from Guildford is more valuable than an MP from elsewhere ?
Perhaps some people think the Conservative party should be for 'people like us' rather than 'people like them'.
#godwin
I stand by my post of earlier in the year, anti incumbency is the thing for 2019, being the sitting MP will be a drawback. The swamp is going to drain
https://twitter.com/mrharrycole/status/1170434063657787393?s=21
(1) Quite good for Boris
(2) Very good for Boris or
(3) Orgasmically good for Boris?
So be wise PBers and do less of the predicting and more of the looking for value bets.
Get. Rid. Of. Him.
Boris is a different kettle of fish altogether. If we're still in the EU come November it will show why Boris needs a majority, not that Boris wasn't a real Brexiteer. Actions like Rudd's will reinforce that.
What a shrinking party it is,
https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/1170431743997992962
If Rudd wishes to join the Tory rebels in refusing to deliver the Brexit 17 million voted for and leave the party fine, if more want to follow Lee to the LDs fine too. They might even ensure the Liberals replace Corbyn Labour as the main opponent to the Tories within a decade which would be no bad thing in my view.
On most of tonight's polls the LDs are now closer to Corbyn Labour than Corbyn Labour are to the Tories
https://twitter.com/shippersunbound/status/1170435422247366657?s=21
Unfortunately, all Johnson and Cummings care about is popularity. They are both interested solely in votes, neither have any principles, and both of them for all their expensive education have no understanding of the theory or history of government and how it has evolved over time. They are closer to Corbyn and Chavez than Theresa May and Kenneth Clarke.
What should really give both Johnson and for that matter Bercow pause is the number of very alarming precedents they are setting that could be exploited should Corbyn or someone even more dangerous like Lavery become PM. But it won't, because they are incapable of thinking more than about a minute ahead.
Boris' "do or die" attitude resonates with the voters. Who'd a thunk it?
We voted to leave in 2016. Most people are fed up with the pathetic games Parliament has played since then to avoid implementing the result.
The people, not parliament, are sovereign. MPs are our servants, not our masters.
But Amber Rudd surely risks a Simon Danczuk-like humiliation with a derisory few hundred votes.
This is the key line
You can't trust Bozo
From student debt to housing to buses.
Irrelevancies perhaps to the smug haves but vital to millions.
https://twitter.com/shippersunbound/status/1170435422247366657?s=21
https://twitter.com/joswinson/status/1170369849819848710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=prlWGe2EHro
If they really believe what they say about Boris they'd not be afraid to let the public pass their verdict on him...
Of course, Lavery hasn't spotted that minor detail yet, but I'm willing to bet Swinson has.
https://twitter.com/politicsforali/status/1170413427745050624?s=21
The best option is to find a suitable leader and call a do or die second referendum with say May's Deal as the leave option (as it's the only existing one).
Con 33.7%
Lab 24.7%
LD 18.3%
BRX 13.3%
Brexit is a revolution. It's way more than a political upheaval, it's an overturning of everything we understand about British elections, meanwhile, all received political opinions are rendered worthless. The only thing similar to this, in recent UK history, is Scotland post indyref, where Labour completely collapsed after a century of dominance - but Brexit is even bigger than that.
So, yes, it doesn't matter if the Tories lose Guildford IF they can win Gateshead and Grimsby. And things that would once have badly damaged a prine minister -- his minister brother resigning, a Cabinet minister following, etc etc - no longer count for much, if they count for anything, because chaos is expected, and priced in. IT'S A REVOLUTION.
They jump up and run. But the bear follows, and is clearly gaining, when Johnson stops and puts on trainers.
'Are you crazy?' shouts Corbyn. 'They won't help you outrun the bear!'
'Screw the bear,' replies Johnson, catching Corbyn up and effortlessly overtaking him, 'all I have to do is outrun you.'
And because it is Corbyn he might well still outdo him on trust, integrity, competence...
Those that want to do so will do so irrespective of what Farage says.