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Thanks.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1152279249937715200ydoethur said:
Can't find that story. What's your source?dixiedean said:Looks like the Iranians have seized a British tanker. Thank goodness Boris will sort it out.
This is presumably deliberate provocation, not like that time in 2007 when a flotilla of drunks kidnapped those British sailors while under the influence?0 -
It doesn’t say anything about extending either way.HYUFD said:
Nope, if Boris is trying to prorogue Parliament to deliver Brexit and MPs block him most Leavers will still back him if he refuses to extendAlastairMeeks said:
You're reading something into the question that isn't there.HYUFD said:
Stupid question as it relies on Boris extending not trying to prorogue Parliament etc to ensure Brexit on 31st October as he will doAlastairMeeks said:0 -
Is that an HY ‘Yes’? Yes, he told Tory MPs that no deal would be lunacy. I think that is a quote. Lunacy. That Geoffrey Cox? Yes?HYUFD said:
He voted for the Brady amendment and backed Leave and has not voted to try and block No DealIanB2 said:
Wasn’t he the one who stood up in the Commons and told his Tory colleagues they were legislators, not children, and needed to avoid the disaster of no deal?HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:0 -
There’s this interview with a 14yr old...rcs1000 said:
What's your source for his income?HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boy-asks-attorney-general-geoffrey-cox-to-justify-high-earnings-t2pj6ldfj0 -
He’s a barrister for hire; he’ll spout any old cobblers on behalf of a client.IanB2 said:
Is that an HY ‘Yes’? Yes, he told Tory MPs that no deal would be lunacy. I think that is a quote. Lunacy. That Geoffrey Cox? Yes?HYUFD said:
He voted for the Brady amendment and backed Leave and has not voted to try and block No DealIanB2 said:
Wasn’t he the one who stood up in the Commons and told his Tory colleagues they were legislators, not children, and needed to avoid the disaster of no deal?HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:0 -
Time changes people. Look at Amber Rudd . Remember 'You can't trust him to take you home at the end of an evening'isIanB2 said:
Wasn’t he the one who stood up in the Commons and told his Tory colleagues they were legislators, not children, and needed to avoid the disaster of no deal?HYUFD said:
... one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:
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He gets off on watching traffic; I am sure he can cope.JackW said:
I'm not sure @Morris_Dancer can stand the pace !!!!!!!!!IanB2 said:BBC2: LibDem hustings followed by first night of the Proms #Fridaynightin
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There's also this about Incompetent Cox.Nigelb said:
There’s this interview with a 14yr old...rcs1000 said:
What's your source for his income?HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boy-asks-attorney-general-geoffrey-cox-to-justify-high-earnings-t2pj6ldfj
Tory MP failed to declare £400,000 in extra earnings
Last year Mr Cox submitted claims for a 49p bottle of milk and £2 worth of tea bags.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/geoffrey-cox-tory-mp-failed-to-declare-400000-in-extra-earnings-forced-to-apologise-a6853806.html0 -
Clearly a scummy nobody.TheScreamingEagles said:
There's also this about Incompetent Cox.Nigelb said:
There’s this interview with a 14yr old...rcs1000 said:
What's your source for his income?HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boy-asks-attorney-general-geoffrey-cox-to-justify-high-earnings-t2pj6ldfj
Tory MP failed to declare £400,000 in extra earnings
Last year Mr Cox submitted claims for a 49p bottle of milk and £2 worth of tea bags.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/geoffrey-cox-tory-mp-failed-to-declare-400000-in-extra-earnings-forced-to-apologise-a6853806.html
Really sophisticated people use loose leaf.0 -
Davey would back Labour in a Queens Speech but on an issue by issue basis afterwards. Don't see how that could work.0
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His definition of diehard remainer is a ..... very broad one.Cyclefree said:
Hello: I am not a diehard Remainer, whatever "diehard" means. Nor am I or have I ever been a Compliance officer.HYUFD said:
As Cyclefree being a diehard Remainer is the Oracle of all wisdom rather than a compliance officerydoethur said:
I am sure @Cyclefree can regale us with stories of utterly incompetent yet highly paid QCs.HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:
Edit - this one sprang to mind, although an historic example:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mervyn_Griffith-Jones
Whether I'm an Oracle of wisdom I will leave to others.
I can certainly regale you with lots of stories. But you'll need to be very nice indeed to me.0 -
Bugger all ! His Brian Blessed impression left the EU cold !williamglenn said:
He was sent to Brussels to renegotiate the backstop after the Brady amendment. What did he achieve?HYUFD said:Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'
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On the contrary, I think he did ok.nico67 said:
Bugger all ! His Brian Blessed impression left the EU cold !williamglenn said:
He was sent to Brussels to renegotiate the backstop after the Brady amendment. What did he achieve?HYUFD said:Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'
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Anyone who fought for the king who hasn't personally volunteered to chop off the king’s head after the Roundheads won.Nigelb said:
His definition of diehard remainer is a ..... very broad one.Cyclefree said:
Hello: I am not a diehard Remainer, whatever "diehard" means. Nor am I or have I ever been a Compliance officer.HYUFD said:
As Cyclefree being a diehard Remainer is the Oracle of all wisdom rather than a compliance officerydoethur said:
I am sure @Cyclefree can regale us with stories of utterly incompetent yet highly paid QCs.HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:
Edit - this one sprang to mind, although an historic example:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mervyn_Griffith-Jones
Whether I'm an Oracle of wisdom I will leave to others.
I can certainly regale you with lots of stories. But you'll need to be very nice indeed to me.0 -
Presumably Iran's revenge for our grabbing one of their tankers at the behest of the Americans. If we must get involved in these games, maybe best not to do it after the Tories have scrapped half the navy including the carriers.ydoethur said:
Thanks.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1152279249937715200ydoethur said:
Can't find that story. What's your source?dixiedean said:Looks like the Iranians have seized a British tanker. Thank goodness Boris will sort it out.
This is presumably deliberate provocation, not like that time in 2007 when a flotilla of drunks kidnapped those British sailors while under the influence?0 -
I hate to say it, but isn't this an argument for the single market, rather than one against it.Chelyabinsk said:The interesting points highlighted are twofold: how deeply EU law has permeated every aspect of UK life, and how willing people are to accept a false contradiction if it makes someone they don't like look foolish.
As most people on this board know, I'm involved in a number of businesses. Being able to just have one set of packaging requirements that is allowed for sending poduce to customers in the UK, Ireland, Spain and Germany seems like good common sense.
Now, sure, we don't need the EU to agree common standards (see the ITU for how telecoms standards are harmonised globally), but harmonised product standards are unquestionably in the interests of consumers.0 -
That doesn’t include himself but then he’s going for dinner with two none entities and some blond tart tonight so we’ll get an update from brexit central tomorrow.Nigelb said:
His definition of diehard remainer is a ..... very broad one.Cyclefree said:
Hello: I am not a diehard Remainer, whatever "diehard" means. Nor am I or have I ever been a Compliance officer.HYUFD said:
As Cyclefree being a diehard Remainer is the Oracle of all wisdom rather than a compliance officerydoethur said:
I am sure @Cyclefree can regale us with stories of utterly incompetent yet highly paid QCs.HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:
Edit - this one sprang to mind, although an historic example:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mervyn_Griffith-Jones
Whether I'm an Oracle of wisdom I will leave to others.
I can certainly regale you with lots of stories. But you'll need to be very nice indeed to me.0 -
Now, now: that's very naughty of you. That was just the downpayment. I'm thinking of the restaurant at the Midland next time.......TheScreamingEagles said:
A trip to a sushi bar will do it.ydoethur said:
How much coffee would it take?Cyclefree said:
Hello: I am not a diehard Remainer, whatever "diehard" means. Nor am I or have I ever been a Compliance officer.HYUFD said:
As Cyclefree being a diehard Remainer is the Oracle of all wisdom rather than a compliance officerydoethur said:
I am sure @Cyclefree can regale us with stories of utterly incompetent yet highly paid QCs.HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:
Edit - this one sprang to mind, although an historic example:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mervyn_Griffith-Jones
Whether I'm an Oracle of wisdom I will leave to others.
I can certainly regale you with lots of stories. But you'll need to be very nice indeed to me.
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There seems to be something fishy about all this.Cyclefree said:
Now, now: that's very naughty of you. That was just the downpayment. I'm thinking of the restaurant at the Midland next time.......TheScreamingEagles said:
A trip to a sushi bar will do it.ydoethur said:
How much coffee would it take?Cyclefree said:
Hello: I am not a diehard Remainer, whatever "diehard" means. Nor am I or have I ever been a Compliance officer.HYUFD said:
As Cyclefree being a diehard Remainer is the Oracle of all wisdom rather than a compliance officerydoethur said:
I am sure @Cyclefree can regale us with stories of utterly incompetent yet highly paid QCs.HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:
Edit - this one sprang to mind, although an historic example:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mervyn_Griffith-Jones
Whether I'm an Oracle of wisdom I will leave to others.
I can certainly regale you with lots of stories. But you'll need to be very nice indeed to me.0 -
I'd love to. The Adam Reid is fab.Cyclefree said:Now, now: that's very naughty of you. That was just the downpayment. I'm thinking of the restaurant at the Midland next time.......
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...and we’ll be following EU standards whether in or out. And Kippers will keep their ice pillows.rcs1000 said:
I hate to say it, but isn't this an argument for the single market, rather than one against it.Chelyabinsk said:The interesting points highlighted are twofold: how deeply EU law has permeated every aspect of UK life, and how willing people are to accept a false contradiction if it makes someone they don't like look foolish.
As most people on this board know, I'm involved in a number of businesses. Being able to just have one set of packaging requirements that is allowed for sending poduce to customers in the UK, Ireland, Spain and Germany seems like good common sense.
Now, sure, we don't need the EU to agree common standards (see the ITU for how telecoms standards are harmonised globally), but harmonised product standards are unquestionably in the interests of consumers.0 -
I disagree, we changed PMs during both world wars.
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/11522840503102177280 -
The tanker we have repeatedly said we'll release as soon as they give us the appropriate assurances it isn't bound for Syria?DecrepitJohnL said:
Presumably Iran's revenge for our grabbing one of their tankers at the behest of the Americans. If we must get involved in these games, maybe best not to do it after the Tories have scrapped half the navy including the carriers.ydoethur said:
Thanks.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1152279249937715200ydoethur said:
Can't find that story. What's your source?dixiedean said:Looks like the Iranians have seized a British tanker. Thank goodness Boris will sort it out.
This is presumably deliberate provocation, not like that time in 2007 when a flotilla of drunks kidnapped those British sailors while under the influence?0 -
ydoethur said:
How much coffee would it take?Cyclefree said:
Hello: I am not a diehard Remainer, whatever "diehard" means. Nor am I or have I ever been a Compliance officer.HYUFD said:
As Cyclefree being a diehard Remainer is the Oracle of all wisdom rather than a compliance officerydoethur said:
I am sure @Cyclefree can regale us with stories of utterly incompetent yet highly paid QCs.HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:
Edit - this one sprang to mind, although an historic example:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mervyn_Griffith-Jones
Whether I'm an Oracle of wisdom I will leave to others.
I can certainly regale you with lots of stories. But you'll need to be very nice indeed to me.
Honestly, what sort of a girl do you think I am?!
A decent Malbec and a nice meal, at the very least.0 -
Our new super carrier keeps taking on water and they can’t get to the bottom of why. It’s strange this hasn’t been higher in the news.DecrepitJohnL said:
Presumably Iran's revenge for our grabbing one of their tankers at the behest of the Americans. If we must get involved in these games, maybe best not to do it after the Tories have scrapped half the navy including the carriers.ydoethur said:
Thanks.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1152279249937715200ydoethur said:
Can't find that story. What's your source?dixiedean said:Looks like the Iranians have seized a British tanker. Thank goodness Boris will sort it out.
This is presumably deliberate provocation, not like that time in 2007 when a flotilla of drunks kidnapped those British sailors while under the influence?0 -
And during the Crimean war, Boer War, the Chanak incident, the Ruhr...TheScreamingEagles said:I disagree we, changed PMs during both world wars.
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/11522840503102177280 -
If that does happen and works May would be within her rights to entitle her memoirs "Why the f*ck did you not do that earlier?" I fear were it so simple now it would indeed have happend on both sides - the EU or us could have shifted in various ways to mutual benefit but politics prevents.HYUFD said:
The Withdrawal Agreement can be passed minus the backstop by October 31st as the Brady amendment showed already has a Commons majority, then as Merkel suggested today the technical solution for the Irish border can be dealt with in the Political Declaration and future relationship which is not legally bindingRichard_Nabavi said:
.. a new EU Commission which takes office on November 1st. Don't you see a teeny-weeny little flaw here?HYUFD said:Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU Commission
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But I'm a poor teacher, I was pitching for what I thought I could afford...Cyclefree said:ydoethur said:
How much coffee would it take?Cyclefree said:
Hello: I am not a diehard Remainer, whatever "diehard" means. Nor am I or have I ever been a Compliance officer.HYUFD said:
As Cyclefree being a diehard Remainer is the Oracle of all wisdom rather than a compliance officerydoethur said:
I am sure @Cyclefree can regale us with stories of utterly incompetent yet highly paid QCs.HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:
Edit - this one sprang to mind, although an historic example:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mervyn_Griffith-Jones
Whether I'm an Oracle of wisdom I will leave to others.
I can certainly regale you with lots of stories. But you'll need to be very nice indeed to me.
Honestly, what sort of a girl do you think I am?!
A decent Malbec and a nice meal, at the very least.0 -
They are scum bags and morally corrupt. But bankers? That's harsh.dr_spyn said:Email from outside the Labour Party network, how unusual, how exceptional, how extraordinary.
https://twitter.com/RaynerSkyNews/status/1152231538987274246/photo/1
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Yes, of course it is that one. Are we expecting Iran to play fair suddenly?ydoethur said:
The tanker we have repeatedly said we'll release as soon as they give us the appropriate assurances it isn't bound for Syria?DecrepitJohnL said:
Presumably Iran's revenge for our grabbing one of their tankers at the behest of the Americans. If we must get involved in these games, maybe best not to do it after the Tories have scrapped half the navy including the carriers.ydoethur said:
Thanks.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1152279249937715200ydoethur said:
Can't find that story. What's your source?dixiedean said:Looks like the Iranians have seized a British tanker. Thank goodness Boris will sort it out.
This is presumably deliberate provocation, not like that time in 2007 when a flotilla of drunks kidnapped those British sailors while under the influence?0 -
If it keeps taking on water, surely it'll get to the bottom quite quickly?IanB2 said:
Our new super carrier keeps taking on water and they can’t get to the bottom of why. It’s strange this hasn’t been higher in the news.DecrepitJohnL said:
Presumably Iran's revenge for our grabbing one of their tankers at the behest of the Americans. If we must get involved in these games, maybe best not to do it after the Tories have scrapped half the navy including the carriers.ydoethur said:
Thanks.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1152279249937715200ydoethur said:
Can't find that story. What's your source?dixiedean said:Looks like the Iranians have seized a British tanker. Thank goodness Boris will sort it out.
This is presumably deliberate provocation, not like that time in 2007 when a flotilla of drunks kidnapped those British sailors while under the influence?1 -
I cannot understand why you have become so extreme and calling remainers 'diehard'.HYUFD said:
Nope, if Boris is trying to prorogue Parliament to deliver Brexit and MPs block him most Leavers will still back him if he refuses to extendAlastairMeeks said:
You're reading something into the question that isn't there.HYUFD said:
Stupid question as it relies on Boris extending not trying to prorogue Parliament etc to ensure Brexit on 31st October as he will doAlastairMeeks said:
Also to attack Cyclefree is uncalled for. She is a highly respected poster on this site and deserves that respect
We can disagree with each other but you are compromising your very extensive political knowledge by becoming far too intolerant
Lets have the previous moderate HYUFD back
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Canada has - over the decades - pretty much replicated all US product standards. Firstly, because it increased choice for Canadian consumers, and reduced costs for businesses. More recently, because NAFTA has incredibly strict rules on the use of product standards as NTBs. (Which effectively mean that Mexico and Canada are obligated to follow the US.)IanB2 said:
...and we’ll be following EU standards whether in or out. And Kippers will keep their ice pillows.rcs1000 said:
I hate to say it, but isn't this an argument for the single market, rather than one against it.Chelyabinsk said:The interesting points highlighted are twofold: how deeply EU law has permeated every aspect of UK life, and how willing people are to accept a false contradiction if it makes someone they don't like look foolish.
As most people on this board know, I'm involved in a number of businesses. Being able to just have one set of packaging requirements that is allowed for sending poduce to customers in the UK, Ireland, Spain and Germany seems like good common sense.
Now, sure, we don't need the EU to agree common standards (see the ITU for how telecoms standards are harmonised globally), but harmonised product standards are unquestionably in the interests of consumers.
We will be like Canada.0 -
They can hardly complain about the treatment they get if they themselves behave like Donald Trump with 750cl of whisky inside him.DecrepitJohnL said:
Yes, of course it is that one. Are we expecting Iran to play fair suddenly?ydoethur said:
The tanker we have repeatedly said we'll release as soon as they give us the appropriate assurances it isn't bound for Syria?DecrepitJohnL said:
Presumably Iran's revenge for our grabbing one of their tankers at the behest of the Americans. If we must get involved in these games, maybe best not to do it after the Tories have scrapped half the navy including the carriers.ydoethur said:
Thanks.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1152279249937715200ydoethur said:
Can't find that story. What's your source?dixiedean said:Looks like the Iranians have seized a British tanker. Thank goodness Boris will sort it out.
This is presumably deliberate provocation, not like that time in 2007 when a flotilla of drunks kidnapped those British sailors while under the influence?
But more to the point, this just seems to be deliberately stoking matters. Very unwise of them with such an unstable human being in the White House.0 -
So what would the outcry have been if we cut the Tory party leaders debate after 30 mins to go to 1st night of the proms? Ok blessed relief but a wee bit unfair0
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The one who thought leaving the EU was reckless and foolhardy?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand why you have become so extreme and calling remainers 'diehard'.HYUFD said:
Nope, if Boris is trying to prorogue Parliament to deliver Brexit and MPs block him most Leavers will still back him if he refuses to extendAlastairMeeks said:
You're reading something into the question that isn't there.HYUFD said:
Stupid question as it relies on Boris extending not trying to prorogue Parliament etc to ensure Brexit on 31st October as he will doAlastairMeeks said:
Also to attack Cyclefree is uncalled for. She is a highly respected poster on this site and deserves that respect
We can disagree with each other but you are compromising your very extensive political knowledge by becoming far too intolerant
Lets have the previous moderate HYUFD back0 -
Yep. Farage and Co really did think Brexit would be the first domino leading to the collapse of the EU. None of the Brexiters really thought through a scenario where the EU would hold together and we’d be sitting alone outside the periphery.rcs1000 said:
Canada has - over the decades - pretty much replicated all US product standards. Firstly, because it increased choice for Canadian consumers, and reduced costs for businesses. More recently, because NAFTA has incredibly strict rules on the use of product standards as NTBs. (Which effectively mean that Mexico and Canada are obligated to follow the US.)IanB2 said:
...and we’ll be following EU standards whether in or out. And Kippers will keep their ice pillows.rcs1000 said:
I hate to say it, but isn't this an argument for the single market, rather than one against it.Chelyabinsk said:The interesting points highlighted are twofold: how deeply EU law has permeated every aspect of UK life, and how willing people are to accept a false contradiction if it makes someone they don't like look foolish.
As most people on this board know, I'm involved in a number of businesses. Being able to just have one set of packaging requirements that is allowed for sending poduce to customers in the UK, Ireland, Spain and Germany seems like good common sense.
Now, sure, we don't need the EU to agree common standards (see the ITU for how telecoms standards are harmonised globally), but harmonised product standards are unquestionably in the interests of consumers.
We will be like Canada.0 -
Speaking as both a musician and a politics nerd, I would far rather have watched the First Night, Last Night, or indeed Jedward at the Eurovision on a loop than any of those debates.nichomar said:So what would the outcry have been if we cut the Tory party leaders debate after 30 mins to go to 1st night of the proms? Ok blessed relief but a wee bit unfair
Edit - I meant Jemini, although tbf Jedward are not much better.0 -
You misunderstand HYUFD. His first loyalty is to Britain and the Conservative Party, whose interests are intertwined. What is good for the Conservative Party is good for Britain. And the polls clearly state that Brexit on 31 October, deal or no deal, is better for the Conservatives than extension.IanB2 said:
The one who thought leaving the EU was reckless and foolhardy?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand why you have become so extreme and calling remainers 'diehard'.HYUFD said:
Nope, if Boris is trying to prorogue Parliament to deliver Brexit and MPs block him most Leavers will still back him if he refuses to extendAlastairMeeks said:
You're reading something into the question that isn't there.HYUFD said:
Stupid question as it relies on Boris extending not trying to prorogue Parliament etc to ensure Brexit on 31st October as he will doAlastairMeeks said:
Also to attack Cyclefree is uncalled for. She is a highly respected poster on this site and deserves that respect
We can disagree with each other but you are compromising your very extensive political knowledge by becoming far too intolerant
Lets have the previous moderate HYUFD back0 -
But the story of current politics originates in the divergence of conservative party interests from our national ones.rcs1000 said:
You misunderstand HYUFD. His first loyalty is to Britain and the Conservative Party, whose interests are intertwined. What is good for the Conservative Party is good for Britain. And the polls clearly state that Brexit on 31 October, deal or no deal, is better for the Conservatives than extension.IanB2 said:
The one who thought leaving the EU was reckless and foolhardy?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand why you have become so extreme and calling remainers 'diehard'.HYUFD said:
Nope, if Boris is trying to prorogue Parliament to deliver Brexit and MPs block him most Leavers will still back him if he refuses to extendAlastairMeeks said:
You're reading something into the question that isn't there.HYUFD said:
Stupid question as it relies on Boris extending not trying to prorogue Parliament etc to ensure Brexit on 31st October as he will doAlastairMeeks said:
Also to attack Cyclefree is uncalled for. She is a highly respected poster on this site and deserves that respect
We can disagree with each other but you are compromising your very extensive political knowledge by becoming far too intolerant
Lets have the previous moderate HYUFD back0 -
The last thing Trump wants is another Middle East war; that is why he cancelled the last attack. His problem is he is surrounded by Bush-era neocon warmongers like John Bolton, still convinced that knocking off tyrants and despots will bring democracy and peace.ydoethur said:
They can hardly complain about the treatment they get if they themselves behave like Donald Trump with 750cl of whisky inside him.DecrepitJohnL said:
Yes, of course it is that one. Are we expecting Iran to play fair suddenly?ydoethur said:
The tanker we have repeatedly said we'll release as soon as they give us the appropriate assurances it isn't bound for Syria?DecrepitJohnL said:
Presumably Iran's revenge for our grabbing one of their tankers at the behest of the Americans. If we must get involved in these games, maybe best not to do it after the Tories have scrapped half the navy including the carriers.ydoethur said:
Thanks.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1152279249937715200ydoethur said:
Can't find that story. What's your source?dixiedean said:Looks like the Iranians have seized a British tanker. Thank goodness Boris will sort it out.
This is presumably deliberate provocation, not like that time in 2007 when a flotilla of drunks kidnapped those British sailors while under the influence?
But more to the point, this just seems to be deliberately stoking matters. Very unwise of them with such an unstable human being in the White House.
Funny old world where Donald Trump is the voice of sanity.0 -
ydoethur said:
If it keeps taking on water, surely it'll get to the bottom quite quickly?IanB2 said:
Our new super carrier keeps taking on water and they can’t get to the bottom of why. It’s strange this hasn’t been higher in the news.DecrepitJohnL said:
Presumably Iran's revenge for our grabbing one of their tankers at the behest of the Americans. If we must get involved in these games, maybe best not to do it after the Tories have scrapped half the navy including the carriers.ydoethur said:
Thanks.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1152279249937715200ydoethur said:
Can't find that story. What's your source?dixiedean said:Looks like the Iranians have seized a British tanker. Thank goodness Boris will sort it out.
This is presumably deliberate provocation, not like that time in 2007 when a flotilla of drunks kidnapped those British sailors while under the influence?
So far it has made it back to Portsmouth each time before that became a concern.0 -
One ill-advised tweet (and what other sort does he make?) and we'll have one anyway.DecrepitJohnL said:
The last thing Trump wants is another Middle East war; that is why he cancelled the last attack. His problem is he is surrounded by Bush-era neocon warmongers like John Bolton, still convinced that knocking off tyrants and despots will bring democracy and peace.ydoethur said:
They can hardly complain about the treatment they get if they themselves behave like Donald Trump with 750cl of whisky inside him.DecrepitJohnL said:
Yes, of course it is that one. Are we expecting Iran to play fair suddenly?ydoethur said:
The tanker we have repeatedly said we'll release as soon as they give us the appropriate assurances it isn't bound for Syria?DecrepitJohnL said:
Presumably Iran's revenge for our grabbing one of their tankers at the behest of the Americans. If we must get involved in these games, maybe best not to do it after the Tories have scrapped half the navy including the carriers.ydoethur said:
Thanks.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1152279249937715200ydoethur said:
Can't find that story. What's your source?dixiedean said:Looks like the Iranians have seized a British tanker. Thank goodness Boris will sort it out.
This is presumably deliberate provocation, not like that time in 2007 when a flotilla of drunks kidnapped those British sailors while under the influence?
But more to the point, this just seems to be deliberately stoking matters. Very unwise of them with such an unstable human being in the White House.
Funny old world where Donald Trump is the voice of sanity.0 -
Oh, I'm not saying the interests of the country and the Conservative Party are the same, I'm saying that I believe that is HYUFD's mindset.IanB2 said:
But the story of current politics originates in the divergence of conservative party interests from our national ones.rcs1000 said:
You misunderstand HYUFD. His first loyalty is to Britain and the Conservative Party, whose interests are intertwined. What is good for the Conservative Party is good for Britain. And the polls clearly state that Brexit on 31 October, deal or no deal, is better for the Conservatives than extension.IanB2 said:
The one who thought leaving the EU was reckless and foolhardy?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand why you have become so extreme and calling remainers 'diehard'.HYUFD said:
Nope, if Boris is trying to prorogue Parliament to deliver Brexit and MPs block him most Leavers will still back him if he refuses to extendAlastairMeeks said:
You're reading something into the question that isn't there.HYUFD said:
Stupid question as it relies on Boris extending not trying to prorogue Parliament etc to ensure Brexit on 31st October as he will doAlastairMeeks said:
Also to attack Cyclefree is uncalled for. She is a highly respected poster on this site and deserves that respect
We can disagree with each other but you are compromising your very extensive political knowledge by becoming far too intolerant
Lets have the previous moderate HYUFD back
But he can correct me if I'm wrong.0 -
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When their ship was seized in Gibraltar, they promised to seize one back.ydoethur said:
They can hardly complain about the treatment they get if they themselves behave like Donald Trump with 750cl of whisky inside him.DecrepitJohnL said:
Yes, of course it is that one. Are we expecting Iran to play fair suddenly?ydoethur said:
The tanker we have repeatedly said we'll release as soon as they give us the appropriate assurances it isn't bound for Syria?DecrepitJohnL said:
Presumably Iran's revenge for our grabbing one of their tankers at the behest of the Americans. If we must get involved in these games, maybe best not to do it after the Tories have scrapped half the navy including the carriers.ydoethur said:
Thanks.TheScreamingEagles said:
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1152279249937715200ydoethur said:
Can't find that story. What's your source?dixiedean said:Looks like the Iranians have seized a British tanker. Thank goodness Boris will sort it out.
This is presumably deliberate provocation, not like that time in 2007 when a flotilla of drunks kidnapped those British sailors while under the influence?
But more to the point, this just seems to be deliberately stoking matters. Very unwise of them with such an unstable human being in the White House.
We just weren't paying attention. Somethings may have distracted ministers...can't think what.0 -
At least it’s moving analysis of his posts along from “utter wank”?rcs1000 said:
Oh, I'm not saying the interests of the country and the Conservative Party are the same, I'm saying that I believe that is HYUFD's mindset.IanB2 said:
But the story of current politics originates in the divergence of conservative party interests from our national ones.rcs1000 said:
You misunderstand HYUFD. His first loyalty is to Britain and the Conservative Party, whose interests are intertwined. What is good for the Conservative Party is good for Britain. And the polls clearly state that Brexit on 31 October, deal or no deal, is better for the Conservatives than extension.IanB2 said:
The one who thought leaving the EU was reckless and foolhardy?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand why you have become so extreme and calling remainers 'diehard'.HYUFD said:
Nope, if Boris is trying to prorogue Parliament to deliver Brexit and MPs block him most Leavers will still back him if he refuses to extendAlastairMeeks said:
You're reading something into the question that isn't there.HYUFD said:
Stupid question as it relies on Boris extending not trying to prorogue Parliament etc to ensure Brexit on 31st October as he will doAlastairMeeks said:
Also to attack Cyclefree is uncalled for. She is a highly respected poster on this site and deserves that respect
We can disagree with each other but you are compromising your very extensive political knowledge by becoming far too intolerant
Lets have the previous moderate HYUFD back
But he can correct me if I'm wrong.
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Well we’ve had no painted wine crates or Manx kippers so it’s not going to be prime time Telly. Nothing worse than two people arguing about how much they agree with each other.ydoethur said:
Speaking as both a musician and a politics nerd, I would far rather have watched the First Night, Last Night, or indeed Jedward at the Eurovision on a loop than any of those debates.nichomar said:So what would the outcry have been if we cut the Tory party leaders debate after 30 mins to go to 1st night of the proms? Ok blessed relief but a wee bit unfair
Edit - I meant Jemini, although tbf Jedward are not much better.0 -
Well, charm and a sense of humour will get you a very long way, with me anyway.ydoethur said:But I'm a poor teacher, I was pitching for what I thought I could afford...
I am not ..... sssh, don't tell @Nigelb ...... that big a fan of coffee. Surely a Negroni is within reach. We could share straws......0 -
What kind of person ends their emails with "in solidarity"...0
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Well, that's an offer that nobody could refuse. But wouldn't Mr Cyclefree object?Cyclefree said:
Well, charm and a sense of humour will get you a very long way, with me anyway.ydoethur said:But I'm a poor teacher, I was pitching for what I thought I could afford...
I am not ..... sssh, don't tell @Nigelb ...... that big a fan of coffee. Surely a Negroni is within reach. We could share straws......0 -
Jemini scored nul points in 2003.ydoethur said:
Speaking as both a musician and a politics nerd, I would far rather have watched the First Night, Last Night, or indeed Jedward at the Eurovision on a loop than any of those debates.nichomar said:So what would the outcry have been if we cut the Tory party leaders debate after 30 mins to go to 1st night of the proms? Ok blessed relief but a wee bit unfair
Edit - I meant Jemini, although tbf Jedward are not much better.
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People that will shaft you the first opportunity they get.Gallowgate said:What kind of person ends their emails with "in solidarity"...
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That's the one I was thinking of. Where they came in flat and got flatter.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Jemini scored nul points in 2003.ydoethur said:
Speaking as both a musician and a politics nerd, I would far rather have watched the First Night, Last Night, or indeed Jedward at the Eurovision on a loop than any of those debates.nichomar said:So what would the outcry have been if we cut the Tory party leaders debate after 30 mins to go to 1st night of the proms? Ok blessed relief but a wee bit unfair
Edit - I meant Jemini, although tbf Jedward are not much better.0 -
Has Jezza been seen in a white van, adorned with St George's Crosses?Sunil_Prasannan said:Emily Thornberry hospitalised after bike collision:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-490464470 -
We’ll probably wake up tomorrow to find we’re at war with Iran then look and see love island is trending on twitter.0
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Diehard Remainer (n): a person wot believes that the Nakatomi Plaza should remain part of the EU.Nigelb said:
His definition of diehard remainer is a ..... very broad one.Cyclefree said:
Hello: I am not a diehard Remainer, whatever "diehard" means. Nor am I or have I ever been a Compliance officer.HYUFD said:
As Cyclefree being a diehard Remainer is the Oracle of all wisdom rather than a compliance officerydoethur said:
I am sure @Cyclefree can regale us with stories of utterly incompetent yet highly paid QCs.HYUFD said:
Geoffrey Cox is one of the highest earning QCs in the country but because he is a Brexiteer diehard Remainers insist 'he lacks competence'WhisperingOracle said:
There's something both delicious and incredibly dangerous in this, of people nowhere near the competence required put in charge of potentially mammothly intricate tasks. The results are bound to be patriotic bluster and failure on any objective terms, as with David Davis - but the stakes and timeframe make it all the more dangerous this time. It's all a bit reminiscent of an enjoyably bad horror movie with real life consequences, or something like the 1970s movie Rollerball.HYUFD said:
Raab is sharp and tough (Mordaunt also a contender) but Foreign Secretary is not leading on the negotiations with the EU, I understand Geoffrey Cox and Rees-Mogg will be added to the renegotiation and future relationship team, both heavyweight Brexiteers. Plus of course a new EU CommissionRH1992 said:
I can hear the European Commission howling with laughter now at the thought of Raab as Foreign Secretary. Raab is Grayling with intent.HYUFD said:
Boris PM, Javid Chancellor, Raab Foreign Secretary, Patel or Mordaunt Home Secretary, Hunt Deputy PM, IDS Defence, Cleverly Party Chairman, Truss BusinessMarqueeMark said:
Boris can't get away with 0 from 4 women in the top jobs. At least one of Mordaunt and Truss; more interesting would be both.Scott_P said:
Edit - this one sprang to mind, although an historic example:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mervyn_Griffith-Jones
Whether I'm an Oracle of wisdom I will leave to others.
I can certainly regale you with lots of stories. But you'll need to be very nice indeed to me.0 -
https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1152289340371996672
Not British registered but owned by a British company...0 -
You joke but is Amber going to couple up with Greg or Michael???nichomar said:We’ll probably wake up tomorrow to find we’re at war with Iran then look and see love island is trending on twitter.
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Off topic apologies.
What the heck is a British flagged vessel doing going near the straits of Hormuz without an escort? Surely their insurers would have that as a condition of cover?
If a RN vessel wasn't there then what are the Admiralty thinking?
Is the plan to release the tanker in Gibraltar in return and pretend nothing happened?0 -
We need to nuke Tehran.
It's not a shi'ite idea, we need to put the Ayatollahs in their place.0 -
A little appreciated fact about the Ice Age is that at its height, say 20,000 years ago, the Persian Gulf would have been totally dry land, all the way from Basra to Hormuz. The Tigris and Euphrates were combined into one big river.Gallowgate said:https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1152289340371996672
Not British registered but owned by a British company...0 -
That's roughly what the ambassador is saying.ExiledInScotland said:Off topic apologies.
What the heck is a British flagged vessel doing going near the straits of Hormuz without an escort? Surely their insurers would have that as a condition of cover?
If a RN vessel wasn't there then what are the Admiralty thinking?
Is the plan to release the tanker in Gibraltar in return and pretend nothing happened?
Although he reiterated that Iran have acted illegally.0 -
Tanker tit-for-tat might provide a convenient excuse for not handing over to Boris till after the start of the Commons recess, in order to completely exclude his being VONC'd by Labour on day one.ydoethur said:
And during the Crimean war, Boer War, the Chanak incident, the Ruhr...TheScreamingEagles said:I disagree we, changed PMs during both world wars.
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/11522840503102177280 -
Are these the Sunni lit uplands of Brexit?TheScreamingEagles said:We need to nuke Tehran.
It's not a shi'ite idea, we need to put the Ayatollahs in their place.0 -
I was about to make a pun on Shias and Sunnis, before I remembered you are a Sunni.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to nuke Tehran.
It's not a shi'ite idea, we need to put the Ayatollahs in their place.
Trouble is, this is quite possibly where this is going, as your Tweeter noted above.0 -
I know the program exists but I did think it was love not Gove island. I wonder why it’s so popular I know nobody who admits to watching it.Gallowgate said:
You joke but is Amber going to couple up with Greg or Michael???nichomar said:We’ll probably wake up tomorrow to find we’re at war with Iran then look and see love island is trending on twitter.
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I thought she was dating Kwasi KwartengGallowgate said:
You joke but is Amber going to couple up with Greg or Michael???nichomar said:We’ll probably wake up tomorrow to find we’re at war with Iran then look and see love island is trending on twitter.
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My American wife watches this and last night asked me to bet on Michael and Amber winningnichomar said:
I know the program exists but I did think it was love not Gove island. I wonder why it’s so popular I know nobody who admits to watching it.Gallowgate said:
You joke but is Amber going to couple up with Greg or Michael???nichomar said:We’ll probably wake up tomorrow to find we’re at war with Iran then look and see love island is trending on twitter.
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Maybe you just have lots of friends who are classy and sophisticated?nichomar said:
I know the program exists but I did think it was love not Gove island. I wonder why it’s so popular I know nobody who admits to watching it.Gallowgate said:
You joke but is Amber going to couple up with Greg or Michael???nichomar said:We’ll probably wake up tomorrow to find we’re at war with Iran then look and see love island is trending on twitter.
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What happens on PB, stays on PB.ydoethur said:
Well, that's an offer that nobody could refuse. But wouldn't Mr Cyclefree object?Cyclefree said:
Well, charm and a sense of humour will get you a very long way, with me anyway.ydoethur said:But I'm a poor teacher, I was pitching for what I thought I could afford...
I am not ..... sssh, don't tell @Nigelb ...... that big a fan of coffee. Surely a Negroni is within reach. We could share straws...... 0 -
Is amber Rudd in it?TookieTheBookie said:
My American wife watches this and last night asked me to bet on Michael and Amber winningnichomar said:
I know the program exists but I did think it was love not Gove island. I wonder why it’s so popular I know nobody who admits to watching it.Gallowgate said:
You joke but is Amber going to couple up with Greg or Michael???nichomar said:We’ll probably wake up tomorrow to find we’re at war with Iran then look and see love island is trending on twitter.
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Lord Ashcroft's recent analysis suggests that the Conservatives and Labour support base is shifting similar to that for the Republicans and Democrats - the Conservatives are moving down from courting High (Financial) Security voters to Low Security ones.IanB2 said:
But the story of current politics originates in the divergence of conservative party interests from our national ones.rcs1000 said:
You misunderstand HYUFD. His first loyalty is to Britain and the Conservative Party, whose interests are intertwined. What is good for the Conservative Party is good for Britain. And the polls clearly state that Brexit on 31 October, deal or no deal, is better for the Conservatives than extension.IanB2 said:
The one who thought leaving the EU was reckless and foolhardy?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand why you have become so extreme and calling remainers 'diehard'.HYUFD said:
Nope, if Boris is trying to prorogue Parliament to deliver Brexit and MPs block him most Leavers will still back him if he refuses to extendAlastairMeeks said:
You're reading something into the question that isn't there.HYUFD said:
Stupid question as it relies on Boris extending not trying to prorogue Parliament etc to ensure Brexit on 31st October as he will doAlastairMeeks said:
Also to attack Cyclefree is uncalled for. She is a highly respected poster on this site and deserves that respect
We can disagree with each other but you are compromising your very extensive political knowledge by becoming far too intolerant
Lets have the previous moderate HYUFD back
Our National Interest has for too long been defined as the interests of our Betters. The people at the bottom have been screwed. I believe that Maggie would be courting the CDE voters now - and would have won.0 -
No.ydoethur said:
Well, that's an offer that nobody could refuse. But wouldn't Mr Cyclefree object?Cyclefree said:
Well, charm and a sense of humour will get you a very long way, with me anyway.ydoethur said:But I'm a poor teacher, I was pitching for what I thought I could afford...
I am not ..... sssh, don't tell @Nigelb ...... that big a fan of coffee. Surely a Negroni is within reach. We could share straws......
He is currently gainfully employed being a project manager on a large building project in the Lake District.0 -
No I’m afraid it’s sadder than that we just don’t stay up that lateydoethur said:
Maybe you just have lots of friends who are classy and sophisticated?nichomar said:
I know the program exists but I did think it was love not Gove island. I wonder why it’s so popular I know nobody who admits to watching it.Gallowgate said:
You joke but is Amber going to couple up with Greg or Michael???nichomar said:We’ll probably wake up tomorrow to find we’re at war with Iran then look and see love island is trending on twitter.
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... with Michael Gove? My stomach is turning at the thought.nichomar said:
Is amber Rudd in it?TookieTheBookie said:
My American wife watches this and last night asked me to bet on Michael and Amber winningnichomar said:
I know the program exists but I did think it was love not Gove island. I wonder why it’s so popular I know nobody who admits to watching it.Gallowgate said:
You joke but is Amber going to couple up with Greg or Michael???nichomar said:We’ll probably wake up tomorrow to find we’re at war with Iran then look and see love island is trending on twitter.
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Deal. A Negroni for loads of stories of useless lawyers!Cyclefree said:
No.ydoethur said:
Well, that's an offer that nobody could refuse. But wouldn't Mr Cyclefree object?Cyclefree said:
Well, charm and a sense of humour will get you a very long way, with me anyway.ydoethur said:But I'm a poor teacher, I was pitching for what I thought I could afford...
I am not ..... sssh, don't tell @Nigelb ...... that big a fan of coffee. Surely a Negroni is within reach. We could share straws......
He is currently gainfully employed being a project manager on a large building project in the Lake District.0 -
Don't want to spread fake news, but that tweet could be read as implying a second tanker off course...Gallowgate said:https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1152289340371996672
Not British registered but owned by a British company...0 -
I am as much of a good Sunni as I am President of the Mark Reckless fan clubydoethur said:
I was about to make a pun on Shias and Sunnis, before I remembered you are a Sunni.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to nuke Tehran.
It's not a shi'ite idea, we need to put the Ayatollahs in their place.
Trouble is, this is quite possibly where this is going, as your Tweeter noted above.0 -
Superman IIIdixiedean said:
Don't want to spread fake news, but that tweet could be read as implying a second tanker off course...Gallowgate said:https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1152289340371996672
Not British registered but owned by a British company...
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That's exactly what it's suggesting.dixiedean said:
Don't want to spread fake news, but that tweet could be read as implying a second tanker off course...Gallowgate said:https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1152289340371996672
Not British registered but owned by a British company...0 -
It's just the pun I came up with, while awesome as ever, could have been misunderstood. So I decided to refrain.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am as much of a good Sunni as I am President of the Mark Reckless fan clubydoethur said:
I was about to make a pun on Shias and Sunnis, before I remembered you are a Sunni.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to nuke Tehran.
It's not a shi'ite idea, we need to put the Ayatollahs in their place.
Trouble is, this is quite possibly where this is going, as your Tweeter noted above.0 -
And does. This one is Masdar. The earlier one is Stena Impero. British flagged.dixiedean said:
Don't want to spread fake news, but that tweet could be read as implying a second tanker off course...Gallowgate said:https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1152289340371996672
Not British registered but owned by a British company...0 -
And bankers. Then I can come and tell your students what careers to avoid.ydoethur said:
Deal. A Negroni for loads of stories of useless lawyers!Cyclefree said:
No.ydoethur said:
Well, that's an offer that nobody could refuse. But wouldn't Mr Cyclefree object?Cyclefree said:
Well, charm and a sense of humour will get you a very long way, with me anyway.ydoethur said:But I'm a poor teacher, I was pitching for what I thought I could afford...
I am not ..... sssh, don't tell @Nigelb ...... that big a fan of coffee. Surely a Negroni is within reach. We could share straws......
He is currently gainfully employed being a project manager on a large building project in the Lake District.0 -
Got quite a few who want to be lawyers. Can't think offhand of any potential bankers.Cyclefree said:
And bankers. Then I can come and tell your students what careers to avoid.ydoethur said:
Deal. A Negroni for loads of stories of useless lawyers!Cyclefree said:
No.ydoethur said:
Well, that's an offer that nobody could refuse. But wouldn't Mr Cyclefree object?Cyclefree said:
Well, charm and a sense of humour will get you a very long way, with me anyway.ydoethur said:But I'm a poor teacher, I was pitching for what I thought I could afford...
I am not ..... sssh, don't tell @Nigelb ...... that big a fan of coffee. Surely a Negroni is within reach. We could share straws......
He is currently gainfully employed being a project manager on a large building project in the Lake District.0 -
The Sunil uplands, surelydixiedean said:
Are these the Sunni lit uplands of Brexit?TheScreamingEagles said:We need to nuke Tehran.
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Bollocks. One may be regarded as a kind of payback. Two is a dangerous escalation.Gallowgate said:
That's exactly what it's suggesting.dixiedean said:
Don't want to spread fake news, but that tweet could be read as implying a second tanker off course...Gallowgate said:https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1152289340371996672
Not British registered but owned by a British company...0 -
There’s some jokes that only I can get away with likeydoethur said:
It's just the pun I came up with, while awesome as ever, could have been misunderstood. So I decided to refrain.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am as much of a good Sunni as I am President of the Mark Reckless fan clubydoethur said:
I was about to make a pun on Shias and Sunnis, before I remembered you are a Sunni.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to nuke Tehran.
It's not a shi'ite idea, we need to put the Ayatollahs in their place.
Trouble is, this is quite possibly where this is going, as your Tweeter noted above.
‘What makes a suicide bomber tick?’0 -
Yes.TheScreamingEagles said:
There’s some jokes that only I can get away with likeydoethur said:
It's just the pun I came up with, while awesome as ever, could have been misunderstood. So I decided to refrain.TheScreamingEagles said:
I am as much of a good Sunni as I am President of the Mark Reckless fan clubydoethur said:
I was about to make a pun on Shias and Sunnis, before I remembered you are a Sunni.TheScreamingEagles said:We need to nuke Tehran.
It's not a shi'ite idea, we need to put the Ayatollahs in their place.
Trouble is, this is quite possibly where this is going, as your Tweeter noted above.
‘What makes a suicide bomber tick?’
This might have been one of them, so I thought better of it.0 -
https://twitter.com/rogerboyes/status/1152293511175254016TheScreamingEagles said:I disagree, we changed PMs during both world wars.
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/11522840503102177280 -
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Trump confirms 2 tankers. Bloody hell.0
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Events it’s always events0
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I always use 'In comradeship' in party emails.Gallowgate said:What kind of person ends their emails with "in solidarity"...
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SandyRentool said:
I always use 'In comradeship' in party emails.Gallowgate said:What kind of person ends their emails with "in solidarity"...
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Sensible kids. Their heads get turned at university.ydoethur said:
Got quite a few who want to be lawyers. Can't think offhand of any potential bankers.Cyclefree said:
And bankers. Then I can come and tell your students what careers to avoid.ydoethur said:
Deal. A Negroni for loads of stories of useless lawyers!Cyclefree said:
No.ydoethur said:
Well, that's an offer that nobody could refuse. But wouldn't Mr Cyclefree object?Cyclefree said:
Well, charm and a sense of humour will get you a very long way, with me anyway.ydoethur said:But I'm a poor teacher, I was pitching for what I thought I could afford...
I am not ..... sssh, don't tell @Nigelb ...... that big a fan of coffee. Surely a Negroni is within reach. We could share straws......
He is currently gainfully employed being a project manager on a large building project in the Lake District.
On a serious point I do talks about What Life is Really Like as a Lawyer and What I Wish I'd Known When I Was Younger, especially to girls, if that is ever of interest. Did one for International Womens Day this year. Role models - or just real life examples (not boring "I'm trying to sell my firm" ones) can be helpful.0 -
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