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Scott_P said:

Big shout out to Matt Hancock

The only politicians who has managed to come out of this latest fiasco looking worse than BoZo.

Awesome job

What's he done?

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1148921175084535808?s=21

If anything were to make me a Corbynista, it would be the embarrassing and pitiful grovelling and arse-licking towards the US which the British politicians, particularly in the Tory party, indulge in.

I have a lot of time for the US. But they are not always right or sensible or wise. And they act in their own interests, not our. Always have done. Always will. Long past the time for us to realise this and to stop this childish desire to be the the US’s best friend in a way which demeans us. The way we behave is little better than bending over and holding our ankles.

It is both pathetic and humiliating.

AlastairMeeks said:

https://twitter.com/TomRailton1/status/1148928049938931712

Duncan was once overheard discussing both May and Johnson. On May he expounded at length on her strengths and some weaknesses. When asked about Johnson he had a one word answer “C*nt”.

rottenborough said:

What's he done?

Prostrated himself at the feet of BoZo.

Arselicking the Leader of the Free World is bad, but arselicking the guy who wants to be that guy is just pitiful.

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1148963139079278593

rottenborough said:

Scott_P said:

Big shout out to Matt Hancock

The only politicians who has managed to come out of this latest fiasco looking worse than BoZo.

Awesome job

What's he done?

Car crash interview on GM where even Piers Morgan was unimpressed.

kinabalu said:

Paristonda said:

This really has the potential to damage Boris further among the public. Being seen as Bush's poodle was hugely damaging to Blair's reputation, and the image is now set that Boris will be Trump's bichon frise. Trump is only getting more unpopular among the public, particularly with his attacks on May (a lot of people see it as OK for us to criticise her but not foreign leaders).

Emily Thronberry's comments are exactly the kind of response needed by Labour, got to tackle Boris hard. A few more scare stories about Boris selling the NHS to Trump and how our food supply will be poisoned by chlorinated chicken, and Boris will be in real trouble in an election even without factoring in the state of Brexit.

Yes this plays well for Labour. They should disparage Trump at every opportunity. The contrast with the inevitable grovelling to him by a Johnson government and by the Brexit Party will be a net vote winner.

In many ways I think Labour may find Boris an easier target than Hunt.
Hunt managed to resist a lot of criticism at health, despite being given a pretty dreadful hand to play by Lansley/Osborne.

SouthamObserver said:

kinabalu said:

Paristonda said:

This really has the potential to damage Boris further among the public. Being seen as Bush's poodle was hugely damaging to Blair's reputation, and the image is now set that Boris will be Trump's bichon frise. Trump is only getting more unpopular among the public, particularly with his attacks on May (a lot of people see it as OK for us to criticise her but not foreign leaders).

Emily Thronberry's comments are exactly the kind of response needed by Labour, got to tackle Boris hard. A few more scare stories about Boris selling the NHS to Trump and how our food supply will be poisoned by chlorinated chicken, and Boris will be in real trouble in an election even without factoring in the state of Brexit.

Yes this plays well for Labour. They should disparage Trump at every opportunity. The contrast with the inevitable grovelling to him by a Johnson government and by the Brexit Party will be a net vote winner.

I strongly suspect that is right.

True . The fact that Corbyn won’t arse lick Trump and will stay closer to Europe is a big plus .

nico67 said:

SouthamObserver said:

kinabalu said:

Paristonda said:

This really has the potential to damage Boris further among the public. Being seen as Bush's poodle was hugely damaging to Blair's reputation, and the image is now set that Boris will be Trump's bichon frise. Trump is only getting more unpopular among the public, particularly with his attacks on May (a lot of people see it as OK for us to criticise her but not foreign leaders).

Emily Thronberry's comments are exactly the kind of response needed by Labour, got to tackle Boris hard. A few more scare stories about Boris selling the NHS to Trump and how our food supply will be poisoned by chlorinated chicken, and Boris will be in real trouble in an election even without factoring in the state of Brexit.

Yes this plays well for Labour. They should disparage Trump at every opportunity. The contrast with the inevitable grovelling to him by a Johnson government and by the Brexit Party will be a net vote winner.

I strongly suspect that is right.

True . The fact that Corbyn won’t arse lick Trump and will stay closer to Europe is a big plus .

Given the people Corbyn has arse licked in his time I really don't think you want to go there...

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/mediaguido/status/1148965004315639808?s=21

One of those cases where one hopes both sides will lose, which since it's a defamation case is near-certain.

https://twitter.com/gremalkincat/status/1148916888581357569

Richard_Nabavi said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/mediaguido/status/1148965004315639808?s=21

One of those cases where one hopes both sides will lose, which since it's a defamation case is near-certain.

This looks like one of those remarkable cases where someone was shooting fish in a barrel, and missed.

Why wasn't Darroch's 2016 leaked memo about Trump investigated with the same zeal this one is?

rkrkrk said:

https://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2019/07/daniel-hannan-for-brexit-to-work-power-must-be-stripped-from-the-quangorats-and-returned-to-people-we-elect.html

"The Electoral Commission and the Information Commissioner’s Office have harassed Vote Leave campaigners. Eurosceptic donors even appear to have been targeted by the tax authorities. At the same time, senior civil servants have taken full advantage of Theresa May’s disastrous readiness to be ruled by official advice."

Hannan quite openly stating his aim of tearing apart British institutions in his latest piece.

Like how Thatcher tore apart systems when she reformed the economy. Reformists generally do believe in actual reform shockingly enough and not just assuming existing systems are fit for purpose.

TrèsDifficile said:

Why wasn't Darroch's 2016 leaked memo about Trump investigated with the same zeal this one is?

Because it wasn't that interesting?

All it said was --

The memo, seen by The Sunday Times, said: “The president-elect is above all an outsider and unknown quantity, whose campaign pronouncements may reveal his instincts, but will surely evolve and, particularly, be open to outside influence if pitched right.

“Having, we believe, built better relationships with his team than have the rest of Washington diplomatic corps, we should be well placed to do this.”

RobD said:

TrèsDifficile said:

Why wasn't Darroch's 2016 leaked memo about Trump investigated with the same zeal this one is?

Because it wasn't that interesting?

All it said was --

The memo, seen by The Sunday Times, said: “The president-elect is above all an outsider and unknown quantity, whose campaign pronouncements may reveal his instincts, but will surely evolve and, particularly, be open to outside influence if pitched right.

“Having, we believe, built better relationships with his team than have the rest of Washington diplomatic corps, we should be well placed to do this.”

It was surely still supposed to be confidential, and so the leaker should have faced whatever is coming to this one.

And surely Darroch should have learnt that his confidential memos weren't in fact confidential?

TrèsDifficile said:

RobD said:

TrèsDifficile said:

Why wasn't Darroch's 2016 leaked memo about Trump investigated with the same zeal this one is?

Because it wasn't that interesting?

All it said was --

The memo, seen by The Sunday Times, said: “The president-elect is above all an outsider and unknown quantity, whose campaign pronouncements may reveal his instincts, but will surely evolve and, particularly, be open to outside influence if pitched right.

“Having, we believe, built better relationships with his team than have the rest of Washington diplomatic corps, we should be well placed to do this.”

It was surely still supposed to be confidential, and so the leaker should have faced whatever is coming to this one.

And surely Darroch should have learnt that his confidential memos weren't in fact confidential?

Not all leaks are equal. This one has resulted in the resignation of an Ambassador, for doing nothing more than his job.

Richard_Nabavi said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/mediaguido/status/1148965004315639808?s=21

One of those cases where one hopes both sides will lose, which since it's a defamation case is near-certain.

Carter Fuck, Mish mash con ray or someone else in the magic circle should do well out of it.

logical_song said:

noneoftheabove said:

CarlottaVance said:

AlastairMeeks said:

https://twitter.com/TomRailton1/status/1148928049938931712

Duncan was once overheard discussing both May and Johnson. On May he expounded at length on her strengths and some weaknesses. When asked about Johnson he had a one word answer “C*nt”.

It does underline how difficult Boris will find to fill his ministerial jobs and even the cabinet. Virtually every Tory MP who can tolerate him will need to be given a job!

... a bit like Corbyn, then.

Indeed, we are unlikely to get good government in the next decade, the best we can realistically get is a coalition, but even that has been made toxic to the public.

RobD said:

Jeez, what is it with remainers and arse licking today?

They are offended by public displays of it by their politicians ?

TrèsDifficile said:

RobD said:

TrèsDifficile said:

RobD said:

TrèsDifficile said:

Why wasn't Darroch's 2016 leaked memo about Trump investigated with the same zeal this one is?

Because it wasn't that interesting?

All it said was --

The memo, seen by The Sunday Times, said: “The president-elect is above all an outsider and unknown quantity, whose campaign pronouncements may reveal his instincts, but will surely evolve and, particularly, be open to outside influence if pitched right.

“Having, we believe, built better relationships with his team than have the rest of Washington diplomatic corps, we should be well placed to do this.”

It was surely still supposed to be confidential, and so the leaker should have faced whatever is coming to this one.

And surely Darroch should have learnt that his confidential memos weren't in fact confidential?

Not all leaks are equal. This one has resulted in the resignation of an Ambassador, for doing nothing more than his job.

If that one had been investigated it might have prevented this one.

Have past leak enquiries prevented leaks?

An interesting article from a US perspective:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/message-trump-sent-forcing-out-kim-darroch/593617/
...The administration’s brazen hypocrisy on what is expected of ambassadors is unsurprising but still shocking. Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, has been scathing in his criticism of Brussels, calling the European Commission “out of touch with reality” and “off in the clouds.” In a New Year’s Eve interview on BBC Radio 4, Woody Johnson, the U.S. ambassador to the U.K., said he had traveled throughout the United Kingdom and found the people desperate for new leadership. Richard Grenell, the U.S. ambassador to Germany, began his term by calling for the United States to shame Germany on defense spending, and said he wanted to empower Trumpian conservatives in Europe. And this is what they have said on the record. One can only imagine their private briefings to the president....

....There are important lessons to be learned. For the United Kingdom’s next prime minister, it is obvious that flattery and sycophancy are not enough when dealing with Trump. In one cable, Darroch noted that Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron were busy distancing themselves from Trump but warned London: “I don’t think we should follow them.” He was wrong. The United Kingdom needs to fight its own corner. Trump respects only power and leverage.

I don’t disagree with the comments of France’s ambassador - however unfairly, Darroch was essentially doomed by the leak of the communications.
However, to force his public sacrifice in so precipitate and publicly craven a manner means that those who abandoned him will see little benefit from it.

Been too busy to follow politics but how can anyone think Darroch's position is/was tenable?! He had to walk. You can't get busted badmouthing the president of the country you are serving in and expect to keep the chief diplomatic role.

Resign was the only practical thing he could do.

RobD said:

TrèsDifficile said:

RobD said:

TrèsDifficile said:

RobD said:

TrèsDifficile said:

Why wasn't Darroch's 2016 leaked memo about Trump investigated with the same zeal this one is?

Because it wasn't that interesting?

All it said was --

The memo, seen by The Sunday Times, said: “The president-elect is above all an outsider and unknown quantity, whose campaign pronouncements may reveal his instincts, but will surely evolve and, particularly, be open to outside influence if pitched right.

“Having, we believe, built better relationships with his team than have the rest of Washington diplomatic corps, we should be well placed to do this.”

It was surely still supposed to be confidential, and so the leaker should have faced whatever is coming to this one.

And surely Darroch should have learnt that his confidential memos weren't in fact confidential?

Not all leaks are equal. This one has resulted in the resignation of an Ambassador, for doing nothing more than his job.

If that one had been investigated it might have prevented this one.

Have past leak enquiries prevented leaks?

An exemplary punishment in this case might do something to discourage similar ones.

Nigelb said:

RobD said:

TrèsDifficile said:

RobD said:

TrèsDifficile said:

RobD said:

TrèsDifficile said:

Why wasn't Darroch's 2016 leaked memo about Trump investigated with the same zeal this one is?

Because it wasn't that interesting?

All it said was --

The memo, seen by The Sunday Times, said: “The president-elect is above all an outsider and unknown quantity, whose campaign pronouncements may reveal his instincts, but will surely evolve and, particularly, be open to outside influence if pitched right.

“Having, we believe, built better relationships with his team than have the rest of Washington diplomatic corps, we should be well placed to do this.”

It was surely still supposed to be confidential, and so the leaker should have faced whatever is coming to this one.

And surely Darroch should have learnt that his confidential memos weren't in fact confidential?

Not all leaks are equal. This one has resulted in the resignation of an Ambassador, for doing nothing more than his job.

If that one had been investigated it might have prevented this one.

Have past leak enquiries prevented leaks?

An exemplary punishment in this case might do something to discourage similar ones.

Life in the Tower?

HYUFD said:

Charles said:

HYUFD said:

Charles said:

HYUFD said:

Charles said:

HYUFD said:

SouthamObserver said:

HYUFD said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

It's probably fair to say that Sir Kim's position had become untenable even without Boris and others failing to give him the support he deserves and should have expected. However, I'm sure it's also the case that the timing - which makes it look as though a couple of tweets from Trump are enough to cause the UK to jump to attention and do whatever he says - is the fault of Boris Johnson.

This affair, the brain-dead commitment to October 31st, and the quite extraordinary refusal to rule out treating parliament in the manner of Charles 1st, should be enough to dash any lingering hopes that Boris might not be quite as unsuitable to be PM as he seemed. Looks like he'll be even worse than one would have feared.

Well as you will be voting LD if Boris wins anyway will he really be that bothered if you think his premiership is awful?

Richard is a patriot. You support a football team.

Richard is now a LD whose main priority is refusing to implement the Brexit vote the majority voted for.

Stop this BS @HYUFD

A prospective candidate should not be spending their time trying to chase voters away from the party

Richard Navabi has already said he will vote LD if Boris does No Deal as a last resort to.implement Brexit, I did not open the way to leaving the party, he did

But you are

Don’t be part of that mistake

From 1965 to 1975 Heathites lost 3 out of 4 general elections, it took Thatcher to win the next 3 on the trot.

Given the majority of the country's voters and the vast majority of Tories voted Leave it is failing to respect that decision and implement it Deal or No Deal that will really cost the Tories

So they were in power for 40% of that time?

And from 1951-1964. Shall we agree that 17/24 years is not that bad a result?

Thatcher was a Radical, not an Ultra. The support of the likes of Whitelaw and Hailsham was a key part of her coalition.

Salisbury was an ultra and won more elections than Heath, even Stanley won most seats in 1847 and 1852.

The 2 worst defeats for the Tories since the 1832 Great Reform Act came in 1906 under Balfour and 1997 under Major came under non ultra leaders

“Better than Balfour”

Such a ringing endorsement of your cause

Salisbury, of course, had the support of the Cavendish family and those that came with him

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/1148964087101100034

Someone is going to be eating a lot of porridge.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

GIN1138 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Cyclefree said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Darroch is a man of honour and integrity.

Boris Johnson is neither of those things.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Darroch is a man of honour and integrity.

Boris Johnson is neither of those things.

Well said.

Tory members voting for this man should be ashamed of themselves.

I voted neither - pleased with my decision

Boris will have lost a lot today no matter what his supporters say

Unless Boris (or friends of Boris) turns out to be the leaker I'm still unsure why Boris is getting the blame for Kim resinging?

Kim was done for the moment the leak happened. If anything Boris was the only one facing up to the reality of the situation and even then he didn't actually call on him to resign.

So, if you were prospective PM, would you have argued that staying in the role was the best thing for US/UK diplomacy?

He had to go. He's been busted by a leak. Unfortunate, but life ain't fair.

He was unclear last night when Hunt and near everybody else gave the Ambassador their support.

Boris demonstrated exactly why he is unsuitable to be PM and handed a big story to his opponents

Big_G_NorthWales said:

GIN1138 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Cyclefree said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Darroch is a man of honour and integrity.

Boris Johnson is neither of those things.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Darroch is a man of honour and integrity.

Boris Johnson is neither of those things.

Well said.

Tory members voting for this man should be ashamed of themselves.

I voted neither - pleased with my decision

Boris will have lost a lot today no matter what his supporters say

Unless Boris (or friends of Boris) turns out to be the leaker I'm still unsure why Boris is getting the blame for Kim resinging?

Kim was done for the moment the leak happened. If anything Boris was the only one facing up to the reality of the situation and even then he didn't actually call on him to resign.

He was unclear last night when Hunt and near everybody else gave the Ambassador their support.

Boris demonstrated exactly why he is unsuitable to be PM and handed a big story to his opponents

Kim was finished on Sunday morning. Hunt "and everybody else" were in denial about the situation.

The leak did the ambassador in not Boris.

Charles said:

Philip_Thompson said:

The idea being propagated by Remainers especially that Trump or an ally of Trump was behind the leak is utterly absurd. The leak was extremely embarrassing for Trump which is why he was so furious.

Cui bono in your view?

That's a question people don't seem to be asking often enough.

I would say Hunt. That doesn't mean I think he is behind it but I suspect someone who wants Hunt to be PM probably is.

Besides Darroch himself the 2 people most hurt by this leak are Trump (who has been embarrassed having this said by one of his closest allies) and Boris. Boris has been running a leadership campaign best described as 'don't scare the horses' and this leak has been like a detonation of TNT by the pasture.

The timing is awfully suspicious for this not to be related to the leadership race and I think it is designed to help the underdog.

rottenborough said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/1148964087101100034

Someone is going to be eating a lot of porridge.

Not if it was Villainous Vlad.

MarqueeMark said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1148944768011046913

Great fun watching the Remainer Establishment rallying around the loser Darroch. Imagine if they had put this much effort into winning the Referendum.....

Darroch isn’t a loser. He did his job and was screwed by someone who leaked confidential reports.

Philip_Thompson said:

Charles said:

Philip_Thompson said:

The idea being propagated by Remainers especially that Trump or an ally of Trump was behind the leak is utterly absurd. The leak was extremely embarrassing for Trump which is why he was so furious.

Cui bono in your view?

That's a question people don't seem to be asking often enough.

I would say Hunt. That doesn't mean I think he is behind it but I suspect someone who wants Hunt to be PM probably is.

Besides Darroch himself the 2 people most hurt by this leak are Trump (who has been embarrassed having this said by one of his closest allies) and Boris. Boris has been running a leadership campaign best described as 'don't scare the horses' and this leak has been like a detonation of TNT by the pasture.

The timing is awfully suspicious for this not to be related to the leadership race and I think it is designed to help the underdog.

How Machiavellian of Jeremy Hunt.

Philip_Thompson said:

Charles said:

Philip_Thompson said:

The idea being propagated by Remainers especially that Trump or an ally of Trump was behind the leak is utterly absurd. The leak was extremely embarrassing for Trump which is why he was so furious.

Cui bono in your view?

That's a question people don't seem to be asking often enough.

I would say Hunt. That doesn't mean I think he is behind it but I suspect someone who wants Hunt to be PM probably is.

Besides Darroch himself the 2 people most hurt by this leak are Trump (who has been embarrassed having this said by one of his closest allies) and Boris. Boris has been running a leadership campaign best described as 'don't scare the horses' and this leak has been like a detonation of TNT by the pasture.

The timing is awfully suspicious for this not to be related to the leadership race and I think it is designed to help the underdog.

Motive and Opportunity does point in one direction...

rottenborough said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/1148964087101100034

Someone is going to be eating a lot of porridge.

Not if Boris is PM.

GIN1138 said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Charles said:

Philip_Thompson said:

The idea being propagated by Remainers especially that Trump or an ally of Trump was behind the leak is utterly absurd. The leak was extremely embarrassing for Trump which is why he was so furious.

Cui bono in your view?

That's a question people don't seem to be asking often enough.

I would say Hunt. That doesn't mean I think he is behind it but I suspect someone who wants Hunt to be PM probably is.

Besides Darroch himself the 2 people most hurt by this leak are Trump (who has been embarrassed having this said by one of his closest allies) and Boris. Boris has been running a leadership campaign best described as 'don't scare the horses' and this leak has been like a detonation of TNT by the pasture.

The timing is awfully suspicious for this not to be related to the leadership race and I think it is designed to help the underdog.

Motive and Opportunity does point in one direction...

Well indeed. Who currently has clearance? Who does this benefit?

noneoftheabove said:

rottenborough said:

Scott_P said:

https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/1148964087101100034

Someone is going to be eating a lot of porridge.

Not if Boris is PM.

Yes, he is the type to interfere in the crime and justice systems.....

https://twitter.com/ianbirrell/status/1148966495638237184

For those who missed Hancock's morning glory.....

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-matt-hancock-refuses-answer-17794201

Scott_P said:

williamglenn said:

Boris Johnson may find himself in the driving seat, but will the pedals and steering wheel work? He might not have much control over the direction things take.

https://twitter.com/fatshez/status/1148977408676155392

"We must face the nation with the country behind us!"

CarlottaVance said:

For those who missed Hancock's morning glory.....

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-matt-hancock-refuses-answer-17794201

He’s such a wet mop.

Philip_Thompson said:

Chris said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Charles said:

Philip_Thompson said:

The idea being propagated by Remainers especially that Trump or an ally of Trump was behind the leak is utterly absurd. The leak was extremely embarrassing for Trump which is why he was so furious.

Cui bono in your view?

That's a question people don't seem to be asking often enough.

I would say Hunt. That doesn't mean I think he is behind it but I suspect someone who wants Hunt to be PM probably is.

Besides Darroch himself the 2 people most hurt by this leak are Trump (who has been embarrassed having this said by one of his closest allies) and Boris. Boris has been running a leadership campaign best described as 'don't scare the horses' and this leak has been like a detonation of TNT by the pasture.

The timing is awfully suspicious for this not to be related to the leadership race and I think it is designed to help the underdog.

How Machiavellian of Jeremy Hunt.

I dont think Hunt ordered someone to do this or even had advance knowledge it was going to happen. I do think it was done by someone on their own initiative trying to help their boss

Surely this leak was aimed at undermining the Foreign Secretary (Hunt) and so Boris is the cui who bonos.

It is probably is too late though isn't it?

https://twitter.com/PCollinsTimes/status/1148918079293927424

stodge said:

Remember a 40% vote share for the Liberal Democrats achieves the following:

1) The end of Boris Johnson as Conservative leader.
2) The end of Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader.
3) Making Nigel Farage an irrelevance.

We can dream.

DecrepitJohnL said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Chris said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Charles said:

Philip_Thompson said:

The idea being propagated by Remainers especially that Trump or an ally of Trump was behind the leak is utterly absurd. The leak was extremely embarrassing for Trump which is why he was so furious.

Cui bono in your view?

That's a question people don't seem to be asking often enough.

I would say Hunt. That doesn't mean I think he is behind it but I suspect someone who wants Hunt to be PM probably is.

Besides Darroch himself the 2 people most hurt by this leak are Trump (who has been embarrassed having this said by one of his closest allies) and Boris. Boris has been running a leadership campaign best described as 'don't scare the horses' and this leak has been like a detonation of TNT by the pasture.

The timing is awfully suspicious for this not to be related to the leadership race and I think it is designed to help the underdog.

How Machiavellian of Jeremy Hunt.

I dont think Hunt ordered someone to do this or even had advance knowledge it was going to happen. I do think it was done by someone on their own initiative trying to help their boss

Surely this leak was aimed at undermining the Foreign Secretary (Hunt) and so Boris is the cui who bonos.

Undermine Hunt by manufacturing a row between him and Trump, in the knowledge that Trump is popular with the Tory membership?

Charles said:

Darroch isn’t a loser. He did his job and was screwed by someone who leaked confidential reports.

I would go further - he emerges as the winner in this.

Close to retirement in any case he goes out in a blaze of glory - revealed to the world by his reports on the Trump administration to be a person of intelligence and sound judgement.

not_on_fire said:

Fenster said:

Been too busy to follow politics but how can anyone think Darroch's position is/was tenable?! He had to walk. You can't get busted badmouthing the president of the country you are serving in and expect to keep the chief diplomatic role.

Resign was the only practical thing he could do.

Do you really think the purpose of Ambassadors is to report back rose-tinted platitudes about their host government? Every ambassador in the US from all countries (save perhaps Russia) will have been sending similar thoughts to their home governments.

Russian ambassador just reports that their asset is still in place.

stodge said:

Remember a 40% vote share for the Liberal Democrats achieves the following:

1) The end of Boris Johnson as Conservative leader.
2) The end of Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader.
3) Making Nigel Farage an irrelevance.

I'd strongly disagree on 3, 1 and 2 highly likely mind.

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1148981388500185088