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You seem to have a particularly large chip on your shoulder about her. Perhaps she is simply living a back to nature existance while running a niche business.YBarddCwsc said:
It is amazing how someone living off-grid in Wales and making a living from knitting rabbit wool has ample money to travel to London & don an evening gown & tango with the gruesome Mark Field.Foxy said:
Yes, it is notable that PB Tories consider a woman shouting in an evening dress shouting slogans sufficient threat to require a neck grip perfectly reasonable self defence, yet when Layla slaps a partner she feels threatened by is domestic abuse.
Could she be ... oh, I don't know ... privately wealthy. Perhaps rabbit wool knitting is not her main source of income?
For sure, there’s no way she & her husband can live on what they make from rabbit wool in their tiny few acres in Pembrokeshire.
So, they’ve got family money ... they're English good-lifers fleeing Wigan.
Considering the demographic and economic problems of Wales, I would have thought she should be welcomed.0 -
Any particular reason to believe that? They live in London so it's not unlikely. But they seem to have got this story by virtue simply of living next door.HYUFD said:0 -
I don't see why Wales should have to put up with these people. It is colonialism.Foxy said:
You seem to have a particularly large chip on your shoulder about her. Perhaps she is simply living a back to nature existance while running a niche business.YBarddCwsc said:
It is amazing how someone living off-grid in Wales and making a living from knitting rabbit wool has ample money to travel to London & don an evening gown & tango with the gruesome Mark Field.Foxy said:
Yes, it is notable that PB Tories consider a woman shouting in an evening dress shouting slogans sufficient threat to require a neck grip perfectly reasonable self defence, yet when Layla slaps a partner she feels threatened by is domestic abuse.
Could she be ... oh, I don't know ... privately wealthy. Perhaps rabbit wool knitting is not her main source of income?
For sure, there’s no way she & her husband can live on what they make from rabbit wool in their tiny few acres in Pembrokeshire.
So, they’ve got family money ... they're English good-lifers fleeing Wigan.
Considering the demographic and economic problems of Wales, I would have thought she should be welcomed.
Why should she not live off-grid with her rabbits in Wigan?
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Tory Membership.
He maybe a wife beater but he’s our wife beater and he’s a true believer in Brexit !
Next !
Okay just kidding before the Bozo fans get upset but the UK is now mirroring the USA.
Trump got away with a lot because allegedly it was priced in , Bozo will do the same .
Let’s be blunt which other UK politician could have got away with the huge catalogue of gaffs and awful comments as Bozo has .
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Trump has been accused of rape, again, in New York magazine today.nico67 said:Tory Membership.
He maybe a wife beater but he’s our wife beater and he’s a true believer in Brexit !
Next !
Okay just kidding before the Bozo fans get upset but the UK is now mirroring the USA.
Trump got away with a lot because allegedly it was priced in , Bozo will do the same .
Let’s be blunt which other UK politician could have got away with the huge catalogue of gaffs and awful comments as Bozo has .0 -
Where is anyone saying he is a wife beater ? Evidence?nico67 said:Tory Membership.
He maybe a wife beater but he’s our wife beater and he’s a true believer in Brexit !
Next !
Okay just kidding before the Bozo fans get upset but the UK is now mirroring the USA.
Trump got away with a lot because allegedly it was priced in , Bozo will do the same .
Let’s be blunt which other UK politician could have got away with the huge catalogue of gaffs and awful comments as Bozo has .0 -
Because we are one country? and the Pembrokshire climate is better suited.YBarddCwsc said:
I don't see why Wales should have to put up with these people. It is colonialism.Foxy said:
You seem to have a particularly large chip on your shoulder about her. Perhaps she is simply living a back to nature existance while running a niche business.YBarddCwsc said:
It is amazing how someone living off-grid in Wales and making a living from knitting rabbit wool has ample money to travel to London & don an evening gown & tango with the gruesome Mark Field.Foxy said:
Yes, it is notable that PB Tories consider a woman shouting in an evening dress shouting slogans sufficient threat to require a neck grip perfectly reasonable self defence, yet when Layla slaps a partner she feels threatened by is domestic abuse.
Could she be ... oh, I don't know ... privately wealthy. Perhaps rabbit wool knitting is not her main source of income?
For sure, there’s no way she & her husband can live on what they make from rabbit wool in their tiny few acres in Pembrokeshire.
So, they’ve got family money ... they're English good-lifers fleeing Wigan.
Considering the demographic and economic problems of Wales, I would have thought she should be welcomed.
Why should she not live off-grid with her rabbits in Wigan?
As someone born in Wigan, that bastion of the aristocracy, I understand why people seek a better life elsewhere!
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Fake news . Next !!!glw said:
Trump has been accused of rape, again, in New York magazine today.nico67 said:Tory Membership.
He maybe a wife beater but he’s our wife beater and he’s a true believer in Brexit !
Next !
Okay just kidding before the Bozo fans get upset but the UK is now mirroring the USA.
Trump got away with a lot because allegedly it was priced in , Bozo will do the same .
Let’s be blunt which other UK politician could have got away with the huge catalogue of gaffs and awful comments as Bozo has .
That’s what Trumps so called base will be saying . It’s bad enough that he’s President but his brand of politics is spreading like a virus to other countries around the world .0 -
Maybe Boris found out she was secretly a Remainer and had been putting something in his tea to dampen his ardour ... for Brexit!
In which case anything he may have done was perfectly justified etc etc.0 -
I think the clue was in my just kidding line ! I’m not saying he is but just that he could almost do anything and the Tory Membership would still vote for him .kjohnw said:
Where is anyone saying he is a wife beater ? Evidence?nico67 said:Tory Membership.
He maybe a wife beater but he’s our wife beater and he’s a true believer in Brexit !
Next !
Okay just kidding before the Bozo fans get upset but the UK is now mirroring the USA.
Trump got away with a lot because allegedly it was priced in , Bozo will do the same .
Let’s be blunt which other UK politician could have got away with the huge catalogue of gaffs and awful comments as Bozo has .
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Yes supporting The Team is more important than anything else; no ethics, no laws, no facts should ever be allowed to get in the way.nico67 said:Fake news . Next !!!
That’s what Trumps so called base will be saying . It’s bad enough that he’s President but his brand of politics is spreading like a virus to other countries around the world .0 -
This Boris story is a non story . There is not many couples who don’t row , and raised voices cause he spilled wine on the sofa is hardly a scandal . The Guardian is overplaying a minor incident which the police had no issues with , this is just an attempt to discredit Boris. More to the point what the hell are the neighbours doing recording through the walls , that’s very weird0
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We are not one country.Foxy said:
Because we are one country? and the Pembrokshire climate is better suited.YBarddCwsc said:
I don't see why Wales should have to put up with these people. It is colonialism.Foxy said:
You seem to have a particularly large chip on your shoulder about her. Perhaps she is simply living a back to nature existance while running a niche business.YBarddCwsc said:
It is amazing how someone living off-grid in Wales and making a living from knitting rabbit wool has ample money to travel to London & don an evening gown & tango with the gruesome Mark Field.Foxy said:
Yes, it is notable that PB Tories consider a woman shouting in an evening dress shouting slogans sufficient threat to require a neck grip perfectly reasonable self defence, yet when Layla slaps a partner she feels threatened by is domestic abuse.
Could she be ... oh, I don't know ... privately wealthy. Perhaps rabbit wool knitting is not her main source of income?
For sure, there’s no way she & her husband can live on what they make from rabbit wool in their tiny few acres in Pembrokeshire.
So, they’ve got family money ... they're English good-lifers fleeing Wigan.
Considering the demographic and economic problems of Wales, I would have thought she should be welcomed.
Why should she not live off-grid with her rabbits in Wigan?
As someone born in Wigan, that bastion of the aristocracy, I understand why people seek a better life elsewhere!
What is the evidence that the climate in Pembrokeshire is better suited to the breeding of rabbits than Wigan? Rabbits are famous for breeding, whether in Wigan or Whitesands.
These off-grid development do not have to be registered for Council Tax (thanks to Wales' One World legislation), so I am not quite sure why the Welsh have to be grateful when affluent English people fleeing Wigan (for some reason) turn up in a Welsh National Park, build a shanty town, and dump rubbish all over the countryside, while living off-grid with their rabbits.0 -
Tbh I just read the first line and typed out of impulse , but it’s late and a couple of glasses of wine ....nico67 said:
I think the clue was in my just kidding line ! I’m not saying he is but just that he could almost do anything and the Tory Membership would still vote for him .kjohnw said:
Where is anyone saying he is a wife beater ? Evidence?nico67 said:Tory Membership.
He maybe a wife beater but he’s our wife beater and he’s a true believer in Brexit !
Next !
Okay just kidding before the Bozo fans get upset but the UK is now mirroring the USA.
Trump got away with a lot because allegedly it was priced in , Bozo will do the same .
Let’s be blunt which other UK politician could have got away with the huge catalogue of gaffs and awful comments as Bozo has .0 -
On a hot summer's evening, they probably had the windows open.kjohnw said:This Boris story is a non story . There is not many couples who don’t row , and raised voices cause he spilled wine on the sofa is hardly a scandal . The Guardian is overplaying a minor incident which the police had no issues with , this is just an attempt to discredit Boris. More to the point what the hell are the neighbours doing recording through the walls , that’s very weird
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No worries I hope it’s a quality bottle ! My issues with Johnson are he’s held to a different standard.kjohnw said:
Tbh I just read the first line and typed out of impulse , but it’s late and a couple of glasses of wine ....nico67 said:
I think the clue was in my just kidding line ! I’m not saying he is but just that he could almost do anything and the Tory Membership would still vote for him .kjohnw said:
Where is anyone saying he is a wife beater ? Evidence?nico67 said:Tory Membership.
He maybe a wife beater but he’s our wife beater and he’s a true believer in Brexit !
Next !
Okay just kidding before the Bozo fans get upset but the UK is now mirroring the USA.
Trump got away with a lot because allegedly it was priced in , Bozo will do the same .
Let’s be blunt which other UK politician could have got away with the huge catalogue of gaffs and awful comments as Bozo has .
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If she got the sofa from DFS the insurance should cover a red wine spillage.nico67 said:T
No worries I hope it’s a quality bottle ! My issues with Johnson are he’s held to a different standard.kjohnw said:
Tbh I just read the first line and typed out of impulse , but it’s late and a couple of glasses of wine ....nico67 said:
I think the clue was in my just kidding line ! I’m not saying he is but just that he could almost do anything and the Tory Membership would still vote for him .kjohnw said:
Where is anyone saying he is a wife beater ? Evidence?nico67 said:Tory Membership.
He maybe a wife beater but he’s our wife beater and he’s a true believer in Brexit !
Next !
Okay just kidding before the Bozo fans get upset but the UK is now mirroring the USA.
Trump got away with a lot because allegedly it was priced in , Bozo will do the same .
Let’s be blunt which other UK politician could have got away with the huge catalogue of gaffs and awful comments as Bozo has .0 -
That's between you and your Assembly. Your complaint seems to be that they have a policy expressly designed to lure English ecofruitcakes into the principality, and that the policy works as intended.YBarddCwsc said:
We are not one country.Foxy said:
Because we are one country? and the Pembrokshire climate is better suited.YBarddCwsc said:
I don't see why Wales should have to put up with these people. It is colonialism.Foxy said:
You seem to have a particularly large chip on your shoulder about her. Perhaps she is simply living a back to nature existance while running a niche business.YBarddCwsc said:
It is amazing how someone living off-grid in Wales and making a living from knitting rabbit wool has ample money to travel to London & don an evening gown & tango with the gruesome Mark Field.Foxy said:
Yes, it is notable that PB Tories consider a woman shouting in an evening dress shouting slogans sufficient threat to require a neck grip perfectly reasonable self defence, yet when Layla slaps a partner she feels threatened by is domestic abuse.
Could she be ... oh, I don't know ... privately wealthy. Perhaps rabbit wool knitting is not her main source of income?
For sure, there’s no way she & her husband can live on what they make from rabbit wool in their tiny few acres in Pembrokeshire.
So, they’ve got family money ... they're English good-lifers fleeing Wigan.
Considering the demographic and economic problems of Wales, I would have thought she should be welcomed.
Why should she not live off-grid with her rabbits in Wigan?
As someone born in Wigan, that bastion of the aristocracy, I understand why people seek a better life elsewhere!
What is the evidence that the climate in Pembrokeshire is better suited to the breeding of rabbits than Wigan? Rabbits are famous for breeding, whether in Wigan or Whitesands.
These off-grid development do not have to be registered for Council Tax (thanks to Wales' One World legislation), so I am not quite sure why the Welsh have to be grateful when affluent English people fleeing Wigan (for some reason) turn up in a Welsh National Park, build a shanty town, and dump rubbish all over the countryside, while living off-grid with their rabbits.0 -
Backed Boris at 1.24.0
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An interesting question is why does this sort of thing always happen to Boris? Maybe it is just who he is but you have to take the rough with the smooth! The point is Boris is one of those bizarre people who is interesting to watch just like Trump. I don't think this does anything but reinforce the opinion that he is a liability and cannot be taken seriously. This does not stop him becoming PM but looking at the Daily Mails other story on his complex domestic life over several decades does him no favours. Maybe the media is trying to make this a competitive contest instead of a walkover!kjohnw said:This Boris story is a non story . There is not many couples who don’t row , and raised voices cause he spilled wine on the sofa is hardly a scandal . The Guardian is overplaying a minor incident which the police had no issues with , this is just an attempt to discredit Boris. More to the point what the hell are the neighbours doing recording through the walls , that’s very weird
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Wales assembly referendum 1997:YBarddCwsc said:
I don't see why Wales should have to put up with these people. It is colonialism.Foxy said:
You seem to have a particularly large chip on your shoulder about her. Perhaps she is simply living a back to nature existance while running a niche business.YBarddCwsc said:
It is amazing how someone living off-grid in Wales and making a living from knitting rabbit wool has ample money to travel to London & don an evening gown & tango with the gruesome Mark Field.Foxy said:
Yes, it is notable that PB Tories consider a woman shouting in an evening dress shouting slogans sufficient threat to require a neck grip perfectly reasonable self defence, yet when Layla slaps a partner she feels threatened by is domestic abuse.
Could she be ... oh, I don't know ... privately wealthy. Perhaps rabbit wool knitting is not her main source of income?
For sure, there’s no way she & her husband can live on what they make from rabbit wool in their tiny few acres in Pembrokeshire.
So, they’ve got family money ... they're English good-lifers fleeing Wigan.
Considering the demographic and economic problems of Wales, I would have thought she should be welcomed.
Why should she not live off-grid with her rabbits in Wigan?
Yes 50.3%
No 49.7%
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in this bloody summer, you are more likely to have had central heating on and windows shut.DecrepitJohnL said:
On a hot summer's evening, they probably had the windows open.kjohnw said:This Boris story is a non story . There is not many couples who don’t row , and raised voices cause he spilled wine on the sofa is hardly a scandal . The Guardian is overplaying a minor incident which the police had no issues with , this is just an attempt to discredit Boris. More to the point what the hell are the neighbours doing recording through the walls , that’s very weird
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That is exactly my complaint. Thank you for articulating it so lucidly.Ishmael_Z said:
That's between you and your Assembly. Your complaint seems to be that they have a policy expressly designed to lure English ecofruitcakes into the principality, and that the policy works as intended.YBarddCwsc said:
We are not one country.Foxy said:
Because we are one country? and the Pembrokshire climate is better suited.YBarddCwsc said:
I don't see why Wales should have to put up with these people. It is colonialism.Foxy said:
You seem to have a particularly large chip on your shoulder about her. Perhaps she is simply living a back to nature existance while running a niche business.YBarddCwsc said:
It is amazing how someone living off-grid in Wales and making a living from knitting rabbit wool has ample money to travel to London & don an evening gown & tango with the gruesome Mark Field.Foxy said:
Yes, it is notable that PB Tories consider a woman shouting in an evening dress shouting slogans sufficient threat to require a neck grip perfectly reasonable self defence, yet when Layla slaps a partner she feels threatened by is domestic abuse.
Could she be ... oh, I don't know ... privately wealthy. Perhaps rabbit wool knitting is not her main source of income?
For sure, there’s no way she & her husband can live on what they make from rabbit wool in their tiny few acres in Pembrokeshire.
So, they’ve got family money ... they're English good-lifers fleeing Wigan.
Considering the demographic and economic problems of Wales, I would have thought she should be welcomed.
Why should she not live off-grid with her rabbits in Wigan?
As someone born in Wigan, that bastion of the aristocracy, I understand why people seek a better life elsewhere!
What is the evidence that the climate in Pembrokeshire is better suited to the breeding of rabbits than Wigan? Rabbits are famous for breeding, whether in Wigan or Whitesands.
These off-grid development do not have to be registered for Council Tax (thanks to Wales' One World legislation), so I am not quite sure why the Welsh have to be grateful when affluent English people fleeing Wigan (for some reason) turn up in a Welsh National Park, build a shanty town, and dump rubbish all over the countryside, while living off-grid with their rabbits.
The Welsh Government (run by Labour fuckwits) should be supporting the rural Welsh poor. Instead they are importing English ecofruitcakes into rural Wales.
I will never, ever forgive Labour for how they have run Wales.
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It happens to him as he's a real person who many people don't like.The_Taxman said:
An interesting question is why does this sort of thing always happen to Boris? Maybe it is just who he is but you have to take the rough with the smooth! The point is Boris is one of those bizarre people who is interesting to watch just like Trump. I don't think this does anything but reinforce the opinion that he is a liability and cannot be taken seriously. This does not stop him becoming PM but looking at the Daily Mails other story on his complex domestic life over several decades does him no favours. Maybe the media is trying to make this a competitive contest instead of a walkover!kjohnw said:This Boris story is a non story . There is not many couples who don’t row , and raised voices cause he spilled wine on the sofa is hardly a scandal . The Guardian is overplaying a minor incident which the police had no issues with , this is just an attempt to discredit Boris. More to the point what the hell are the neighbours doing recording through the walls , that’s very weird
Who amongst us has never had a loud argument it might be embarrassing if the creepy neighbours recorded it?0 -
Seems a good time to top up on Boris as next Tory leader but Lidington or Ken Clarke for next PM to me.0
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I’m in a very strange position .
As much as I’d like to see Johnson implode and not become the next PM I also want a Leaver to own Brexit and if there’s a no deal to have to pick up the pieces .
The problem with Hunt is regardless of his born again Leaver guff he voted Remain , and we’ll never hear the end of the whining from the Leave side .
In that respect a run off against Gove would have been much better .0 -
Hunt down to 5.90
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Why anyone other than Boris or Hunt are being matched right now is the biggest mystery in the Universe.0
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Great opportunity to lay Michael Gove (who has already been eliminated) at 60/1!Alistair said:Why anyone other than Boris or Hunt are being matched right now is the biggest mystery in the Universe.
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Storm in a wine glass.0
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How are Lidington or Clarke going to become next PM? Neither have a hope of winning a general election, there would be mass Tory defections to the Brexit Party.Casino_Royale said:Seems a good time to top up on Boris as next Tory leader but Lidington or Ken Clarke for next PM to me.
The only way they become PM is with Labour, LD and SNP and CUK and Green and Plaid and Tory diehard Remainer support which is very unlikely0 -
To the best of my knowledge this lady lives near Builth Wales which is not Pembrokeshire.Foxy said:
Because we are one country? and the Pembrokshire climate is better suited.YBarddCwsc said:
I don't see why Wales should have to put up with these people. It is colonialism.Foxy said:
You seem to have a particularly large chip on your shoulder about her. Perhaps she is simply living a back to nature existance while running a niche business.YBarddCwsc said:
It is amazing how someone living off-grid in Wales and making a living from knitting rabbit wool has ample money to travel to London & don an evening gown & tango with the gruesome Mark Field.Foxy said:
Yes, it is notable that PB Tories consider a woman shouting in an evening dress shouting slogans sufficient threat to require a neck grip perfectly reasonable self defence, yet when Layla slaps a partner she feels threatened by is domestic abuse.
Could she be ... oh, I don't know ... privately wealthy. Perhaps rabbit wool knitting is not her main source of income?
For sure, there’s no way she & her husband can live on what they make from rabbit wool in their tiny few acres in Pembrokeshire.
So, they’ve got family money ... they're English good-lifers fleeing Wigan.
Considering the demographic and economic problems of Wales, I would have thought she should be welcomed.
Why should she not live off-grid with her rabbits in Wigan?
As someone born in Wigan, that bastion of the aristocracy, I understand why people seek a better life elsewhere!
Sorry that Welsh people are not welcome in London. By Mr Field anyway.0 -
The Guardian-reading classes seem to think he's Adolf Hitler reborn, or at least Oswald Mosley. You are right that that is manifestly absurd and therefore has no traction amongst either the selectorate for this contest or future GE performance.Sean_F said:
Whining about bojo is pointless. He's untrustworthy. Not Adolf Hitler reborn,.Pulpstar said:Boris by a landslide still.
However, the untrustworthiness is relevant. The Conservative Party seems to have forgotten this, or pretends to, despite knowing it perfectly well a few months ago. Maybe a reminder might have some effect.0 -
I doubt Boris will be getting laid after tonight's revelation! As for the betting that is an entirely different question..Casino_Royale said:Seems a good time to top up on Boris as next Tory leader but Lidington or Ken Clarke for next PM to me.
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Evening.
Thanks to those who offered holiday advice on Uganda in the last thread. It looks like we're going to book it, first time to sub-Saharan Africa - should be good!
The Boris story..... yawn!0 -
You need to consider a scenario where Boris limps across the finish line, can't command confidence of all his own MPs, yet alone a majority of the House, but someone must to sort Brexit and that isn't Corbyn either.HYUFD said:
How are Lidington or Clarke going to become next PM? Neither have a hope of winning a general election, there would be mass Tory defections to the Brexit Party.Casino_Royale said:Seems a good time to top up on Boris as next Tory leader but Lidington or Ken Clarke for next PM to me.
The only way they become PM is with Labour, LD and SNP and CUK and Green and Plaid and Tory diehard Remainer support which is very unlikely
In.such a scenario all sorts of experienced candidates with cross party appeal open up. And it's rather more likely than you think.0 -
Key advice: make sure all members of the party have their own binoculars, and that they are reasonably decent ones with good light-gathering.Viceroy_of_Orange said:Evening.
Thanks to those who offered holiday advice on Uganda in the last thread. It looks like we're going to book it, first time to sub-Saharan Africa - should be good!1 -
We're more into city sights, especially slums/poorer areas.Richard_Nabavi said:
Key advice: make sure all members of the party have their own binoculars, and that they are reasonably decent ones with good light-gathering.Viceroy_of_Orange said:Evening.
Thanks to those who offered holiday advice on Uganda in the last thread. It looks like we're going to book it, first time to sub-Saharan Africa - should be good!
Good idea for the wildlife part though!0 -
Are you talking about sex with Boris?TheScreamingEagles said:Given what Carrie has been through in the past, I hope the press are gentle with her.
This cannot be fun for her.0 -
I though I read she lived near Trefdraethvalleyboy said:
To the best of my knowledge this lady lives near Builth Wales which is not Pembrokeshire.
Sorry that Welsh people are not welcome in London. By Mr Field anyway.
But, the Daily Mail is on your side and says she lives near Llangammarch Wells.0 -
Maybe but if you want a Farage wet dream it would be Boris wins the Tory leadership, the Commons votes down his government but refuses to make Corbyn PM either or vote for a general election and instead makes Lidington or Starmer or Clarke or Cable or another arch Remainer a caretaker PM to revoke Article 50 and cancel BrexitCasino_Royale said:
You need to consider a scenario where Boris limps across the finish line, can't command confidence of all his own MPs, yet alone a majority of the House, but someone must to sort Brexit and that isn't Corbyn either.HYUFD said:
How are Lidington or Clarke going to become next PM? Neither have a hope of winning a general election, there would be mass Tory defections to the Brexit Party.Casino_Royale said:Seems a good time to top up on Boris as next Tory leader but Lidington or Ken Clarke for next PM to me.
The only way they become PM is with Labour, LD and SNP and CUK and Green and Plaid and Tory diehard Remainer support which is very unlikely
In.such a scenario all sorts of experienced candidates with cross party appeal open up. And it's rather more likely than you think.
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Blimey. Hunt has come in a lot since I logged on this morning.
Can't think why...0 -
We all expected a Boris implosion at some point during the six week campaign.
But possibly not within two days of getting to final two...0 -
I am laying Boris. Only small sums, but...0
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Rubbish, all because of a minor row over spilling wine on a sofa, utterly pathetic desperation from the liberal leftrottenborough said:0 -
The Guardian is overplaying this?kjohnw said:This Boris story is a non story ........The Guardian is overplaying a minor incident.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1142176425249824768
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1142174589935640576
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1142172672509566976
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1142165803254603777
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tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.0 -
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Guardian lawyers nervous. No other paper is.0
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Google first, think better of making jokes later.rcs1000 said:
Are you talking about sex with Boris?TheScreamingEagles said:Given what Carrie has been through in the past, I hope the press are gentle with her.
This cannot be fun for her.0 -
You won't be laughing if that ends up producing PM Farage, as it likely would based on today's YouGov.rottenborough said:I am
tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.
In any case today's story is utter rubbish, based on the members I have seen on social media if anything it reinforces support for Boris, it shows the dirty tricks the left will stoop to and we need someone ready to go to war with them and the diehard Remainers trying to reverse Brexit.
Boris will, Farage will, Hunt I am not so sure, he looks like May 2
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Well that's a hostage to fortune.rottenborough said:0 -
The Guardian produced the story, so they better have their facts straight.rottenborough said:Guardian lawyers nervous. No other paper is.
All the other papers are legally safe as they are just rehashing the Guardian story, if legal action were taken by Camp Boris it would be against Guardian Media Group0 -
Which parties do you anticipate entering into a coalition with Farage?HYUFD said:
You won't be laughing if that ends up producing PM Farage, as it likely would based on today's YouGov.rottenborough said:I am
tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.0 -
There’s only one thing for it... PM Farage0
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Most of what remains of the Tories would jump at the chance, most of their members would probably prefer Farage to be leading them.CarlottaVance said:
Which parties do you anticipate entering into a coalition with Farage?HYUFD said:
You won't be laughing if that ends up producing PM Farage, as it likely would based on today's YouGov.rottenborough said:I am
tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.0 -
On today's YouGov the Brexit Party plus the rump Tories plus the DUP would have an overall majority in the Commons combined.CarlottaVance said:
Which parties do you anticipate entering into a coalition with Farage?HYUFD said:
You won't be laughing if that ends up producing PM Farage, as it likely would based on today's YouGov.rottenborough said:I am
tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.
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kle4 said:
Well that's a hostage to fortune.rottenborough said: 0 -
On another subject, I suspect Corbyn is feeling quietly vindicated by all this:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/21/iran-latest-trump-drone-attack-timeline-airstrikes-called-off
Having a PM who doesn't instantly leap into endorsing confrontation when anything happens seems a good idea to me in today's world.1 -
Evidently journalists have spoken to a number of different neighbours who were concerned now. Obviously not a question of just one neighbour trying to make trouble.
Johnson supporters must be hoping it really was just a temporary tiff, and that he won't be moving out tomorrow!0 -
Yes, because the only options are someone who instantly leaps into endorsing confrontation and one who essentially refuses all practical instances of confrontation. It's not like someone might take a more nuanced view and take things on their merits, not driven by ideological position in these things.NickPalmer said:On another subject, I suspect Corbyn is feeling quietly vindicated by all this:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/21/iran-latest-trump-drone-attack-timeline-airstrikes-called-off
Having a PM who doesn't instantly leap into endorsing confrontation when anything happens seems a good idea to me in today's world.
A rather optimistic view of things.
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Er.....you don't think that the Tories and the Brexit party might be appealing to the same/similar voters, thus splitting their vote and letting goodness knows who in?HYUFD said:
On today's YouGov the Brexit Party plus the rump Tories plus the DUP would have an overall majority in the Commons combined.CarlottaVance said:
Which parties do you anticipate entering into a coalition with Farage?HYUFD said:
You won't be laughing if that ends up producing PM Farage, as it likely would based on today's YouGov.rottenborough said:I am
tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.0 -
If it were in a wine glass it wouldn't have been an issue. However,...Luckyguy1983 said:Storm in a wine glass.
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On today's YouGov according to Electoral Calculus the Brexit Party get 265 MPs, the Tories get 60 and add the DUP with 10 and you get to 335 combined, with only 326 needed for an overall majority.CarlottaVance said:
Er.....you don't think that the Tories and the Brexit party might be appealing to the same/similar voters, thus splitting their vote and letting goodness knows who in?HYUFD said:
On today's YouGov the Brexit Party plus the rump Tories plus the DUP would have an overall majority in the Commons combined.CarlottaVance said:
Which parties do you anticipate entering into a coalition with Farage?HYUFD said:
You won't be laughing if that ends up producing PM Farage, as it likely would based on today's YouGov.rottenborough said:I am
tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.
Once the Brexit Party come first in the polls, as they do with YouGov today, then FPTP really starts to help them.
A Farage led government would make a Boris one look like New Labour!0 -
And so it goes.Chris said:Evidently journalists have spoken to a number of different neighbours who were concerned now. Obviously not a question of just one neighbour trying to make trouble.
Johnson supporters must be hoping it really was just a temporary tiff, and that he won't be moving out tomorrow!
Glad I have laid Hunt a bit tonight as he comes in.0 -
kle4 said:
Well that's a hostage to fortune.rottenborough said:
Also conflates "Boris" with "the Tory Party".0 -
How many Tory MPs are thinking tonight - "whoops, we took a risk and..."0
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In general FPTP will help the party that comes first, but in a four-way split the willingness to vote tactically, if executed remotely accurately, could overwhelm that effect.HYUFD said:
On today's YouGov according to Electoral Calculus the Brexit Party get 265 MPs, the Tories get 60 and add the DUP with 10 and you get to 335 combined, with only 326 needed for an overall majority.CarlottaVance said:
Er.....you don't think that the Tories and the Brexit party might be appealing to the same/similar voters, thus splitting their vote and letting goodness knows who in?HYUFD said:
On today's YouGov the Brexit Party plus the rump Tories plus the DUP would have an overall majority in the Commons combined.CarlottaVance said:
Which parties do you anticipate entering into a coalition with Farage?HYUFD said:
You won't be laughing if that ends up producing PM Farage, as it likely would based on today's YouGov.rottenborough said:I am
tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.
Once the Brexit Party come first, as they do with YouGov today, then FPTP really starts to help them0 -
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Am inclined to agree with you. And I rarely do. I have VERY creepy neighbours.Philip_Thompson said:
It happens to him as he's a real person who many people don't like.The_Taxman said:
An interesting question is why does this sort of thing always happen to Boris? Maybe it is just who he is but you have to take the rough with the smooth! The point is Boris is one of those bizarre people who is interesting to watch just like Trump. I don't think this does anything but reinforce the opinion that he is a liability and cannot be taken seriously. This does not stop him becoming PM but looking at the Daily Mails other story on his complex domestic life over several decades does him no favours. Maybe the media is trying to make this a competitive contest instead of a walkover!kjohnw said:This Boris story is a non story . There is not many couples who don’t row , and raised voices cause he spilled wine on the sofa is hardly a scandal . The Guardian is overplaying a minor incident which the police had no issues with , this is just an attempt to discredit Boris. More to the point what the hell are the neighbours doing recording through the walls , that’s very weird
Who amongst us has never had a loud argument it might be embarrassing if the creepy neighbours recorded it?0 -
None.rottenborough said:How many Tory MPs are thinking tonight - "whoops, we took a risk and..."
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I dont as far as I know. Which probably means I am the creepy neighbour.dixiedean said:
Am inclined to agree with you. And I rarely do. I have VERY creepy neighbours.Philip_Thompson said:
It happens to him as he's a real person who many people don't like.The_Taxman said:
An interesting question is why does this sort of thing always happen to Boris? Maybe it is just who he is but you have to take the rough with the smooth! The point is Boris is one of those bizarre people who is interesting to watch just like Trump. I don't think this does anything but reinforce the opinion that he is a liability and cannot be taken seriously. This does not stop him becoming PM but looking at the Daily Mails other story on his complex domestic life over several decades does him no favours. Maybe the media is trying to make this a competitive contest instead of a walkover!kjohnw said:This Boris story is a non story . There is not many couples who don’t row , and raised voices cause he spilled wine on the sofa is hardly a scandal . The Guardian is overplaying a minor incident which the police had no issues with , this is just an attempt to discredit Boris. More to the point what the hell are the neighbours doing recording through the walls , that’s very weird
Who amongst us has never had a loud argument it might be embarrassing if the creepy neighbours recorded it?0 -
Have the Brexit Party got candidates in place in all constituencies? Thoroughly vetted? The organisation on the ground to GOTV? There's a long way from 'a YouGov poll' to 'forming a government' - and you assume the Tories that survive the massacre would be amenable to propping up a Farage government. Or the DUP with Farage's Britain England First! message.HYUFD said:
Once the Brexit Party come first in the polls, as they do with YouGov today, then FPTP really starts to help them.CarlottaVance said:
Er.....you don't think that the Tories and the Brexit party might be appealing to the same/similar voters, thus splitting their vote and letting goodness knows who in?HYUFD said:
On today's YouGov the Brexit Party plus the rump Tories plus the DUP would have an overall majority in the Commons combined.CarlottaVance said:
Which parties do you anticipate entering into a coalition with Farage?HYUFD said:
You won't be laughing if that ends up producing PM Farage, as it likely would based on today's YouGov.rottenborough said:I am
tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.
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Ha ha. However, you are far, far too reasonable for that. I know, to my cost, what a really unpleasant neighbour is like, so maybe I have undue empathy.kle4 said:
I dont as far as I know. Which probably means I am the creepy neighbour.dixiedean said:
Am inclined to agree with you. And I rarely do. I have VERY creepy neighbours.Philip_Thompson said:
It happens to him as he's a real person who many people don't like.The_Taxman said:
An interesting question is why does this sort of thing always happen to Boris? Maybe it is just who he is but you have to take the rough with the smooth! The point is Boris is one of those bizarre people who is interesting to watch just like Trump. I don't think this does anything but reinforce the opinion that he is a liability and cannot be taken seriously. This does not stop him becoming PM but looking at the Daily Mails other story on his complex domestic life over several decades does him no favours. Maybe the media is trying to make this a competitive contest instead of a walkover!kjohnw said:This Boris story is a non story . There is not many couples who don’t row , and raised voices cause he spilled wine on the sofa is hardly a scandal . The Guardian is overplaying a minor incident which the police had no issues with , this is just an attempt to discredit Boris. More to the point what the hell are the neighbours doing recording through the walls , that’s very weird
Who amongst us has never had a loud argument it might be embarrassing if the creepy neighbours recorded it?0 -
Well they almost won the Peterborough by election from nowhere and they won the European elections from nowhere.CarlottaVance said:
Have the Brexit Party got candidates in place in all constituencies? Thoroughly vetted? The organisation on the ground to GOTV? There's a long way from 'a YouGov poll' to 'forming a government' - and you assume the Tories that survive the massacre would be amenable to propping up a Farage government. Or the DUP with Farage's Britain England First! message.HYUFD said:
Once the Brexit Party come first in the polls, as they do with YouGov today, then FPTP really starts to help them.CarlottaVance said:
Er.....you don't think that the Tories and the Brexit party might be appealing to the same/similar voters, thus splitting their vote and letting goodness knows who in?HYUFD said:
On today's YouGov the Brexit Party plus the rump Tories plus the DUP would have an overall majority in the Commons combined.CarlottaVance said:
Which parties do you anticipate entering into a coalition with Farage?HYUFD said:
You won't be laughing if that ends up producing PM Farage, as it likely would based on today's YouGov.rottenborough said:I am
tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.
Let me assure you if Boris does not get it this time and the Tories do not deliver Brexit by the end of the year I know countless lifelong Tories who will defect to the Brexit Party, probably for good.
If the remaining rump Tories have a choice between PM Farage or PM Corbyn they are hardly going to choose Corbyn are they and the DUP are fine with Farage as he firmly opposes the backstop1 -
Agree with this although in a nationwide four-way-marginal world I guess a lot of established local parties that aren't used to fighting competitive elections are also going to get knocked on their arses.CarlottaVance said:
Have the Brexit Party got candidates in place in all constituencies? Thoroughly vetted? The organisation on the ground to GOTV?0 -
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She wouldn't kick Mark Fields chairHYUFD said:0 -
Was the sofa shouting get off me get out of my flat.HYUFD said:
Rubbish, all because of a minor row over spilling wine on a sofa, utterly pathetic desperation from the liberal leftrottenborough said:
Amazing what rich Tories have.0 -
Police investing cruelty against talking sofas according to HYUFD0
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By the end of the year? October 31 surely? Cast Iron, watertight, guaranteed. Or so Mr Mercer says (or something to that effect...).HYUFD said:
if Boris does not get it this time and the Tories do not deliver Brexit by the end of the yearCarlottaVance said:
Have the Brexit Party got candidates in place in all constituencies? Thoroughly vetted? The organisation on the ground to GOTV? There's a long way from 'a YouGov poll' to 'forming a government' - and you assume the Tories that survive the massacre would be amenable to propping up a Farage government. Or the DUP with Farage's Britain England First! message.HYUFD said:
Once the Brexit Party come first in the polls, as they do with YouGov today, then FPTP really starts to help them.CarlottaVance said:
Er.....you don't think that the Tories and the Brexit party might be appealing to the same/similar voters, thus splitting their vote and letting goodness knows who in?HYUFD said:
On today's YouGov the Brexit Party plus the rump Tories plus the DUP would have an overall majority in the Commons combined.CarlottaVance said:
Which parties do you anticipate entering into a coalition with Farage?HYUFD said:
You won't be laughing if that ends up producing PM Farage, as it likely would based on today's YouGov.rottenborough said:I am
tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.
The polling says 'Boris' is less important to the Tories than 'Brexit'.
If the latter isn't delivered, who is leader is of little relevance.-1 -
Phew! There's a relief! I was worrying about the pilot of that unmanned drone.....
https://twitter.com/HuffPostPol/status/11422200893679656980 -
Make Our Drones Manned!CarlottaVance said:Phew! There's a relief! I was worrying about the pilot of that unmanned drone.....
https://twitter.com/HuffPostPol/status/11422200893679656980 -
The police did not take any further action and there was no evidence of any injury to Carrie Symondsbigjohnowls said:Police investing cruelty against talking sofas according to HYUFD
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On that I agree, if Brexit is not delivered by October 31st as Yougov showed today the Brexit Party win most seats whether Boris or Hunt is leader with the LDs second.CarlottaVance said:
By the end of the year? October 31 surely? Cast Iron, watertight, guaranteed. Or so Mr Mercer says (or something to that effect...).HYUFD said:
if Boris does not get it this time and the Tories do not deliver Brexit by the end of the yearCarlottaVance said:
Have the Brexit Party got candidates in place in all constituencies? Thoroughly vetted? The organisation on the ground to GOTV? There's a long way from 'a YouGov poll' to 'forming a government' - and you assume the Tories that survive the massacre would be amenable to propping up a Farage government. Or the DUP with Farage's Britain England First! message.HYUFD said:
Once the Brexit Party come first in the polls, as they do with YouGov today, then FPTP really starts to help them.CarlottaVance said:
Er.....you don't think that the Tories and the Brexit party might be appealing to the same/similar voters, thus splitting their vote and letting goodness knows who in?HYUFD said:
On today's YouGov the Brexit Party plus the rump Tories plus the DUP would have an overall majority in the Commons combined.CarlottaVance said:
Which parties do you anticipate entering into a coalition with Farage?HYUFD said:
You won't be laughing if that ends up producing PM Farage, as it likely would based on today's YouGov.rottenborough said:I am
tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.
The polling says 'Boris' is less important to the Tories than 'Brexit'.
If the latter isn't delivered, who is leader is of little relevance.
Only minor difference is Yougov says the Tories would be 3rd with Boris tied with Labour but 4th with Hunt on just 17 seats (In the latter scenario May in Maidenhead and Surrey South West would be amongst the few survivors of the meltdown and the Brexit Party would win a majority of 38 with 344 seats).
Yvette Cooper would also lose her seat to Farage's Party
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/cgi-bin/usercode.py?CON=18&LAB=19&LIB=22&Brexit=27&Green=7&UKIP=2&TVCON=&TVLAB=&TVLIB=&TVBrexit=&TVGreen=&TVUKIP=&SCOTCON=&SCOTLAB=&SCOTLIB=&SCOTBrexit=&SCOTGreen=&SCOTUKIP=&SCOTNAT=&display=AllChanged&regorseat=(none)&boundary=2017base0 -
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/06/21/delivering-brexit-will-do-more-boost-conservative-HYUFD said:
On that I agree, if Brexit is not delivered by October 31st as Yougov showed today the Brexit Party win most seats whether Boris or Hunt is leader with the LDs second.CarlottaVance said:
By the end of the year? October 31 surely? Cast Iron, watertight, guaranteed. Or so Mr Mercer says (or something to that effect...).HYUFD said:
if Boris does not get it this time and the Tories do not deliver Brexit by the end of the yearCarlottaVance said:
Have the Brexit Party got candidates in place in all constituencies? Thoroughly vetted? The organisation on the ground to GOTV? There's a long wayHYUFD said:
Once the Brexit Party come first in the polls, as they do with YouGov today, then FPTP really starts to help them.CarlottaVance said:
Er.....you don't think that the Tories and the Brexit party might be appealing to the same/similar voters, thus splitting their vote and letting goodness knows who in?HYUFD said:
On today's YouGov the Brexit Party plus the rump Tories plus the DUP would have an overall majority in the Commons combined.CarlottaVance said:
Which parties do you anticipate entering into a coalition with Farage?HYUFD said:
You won't be laughing if that ends up producing PM Farage, as it likely would based on today's YouGov.rottenborough said:I am
tonight. Williamson and the ERG may have engineered an easy fight between Boris and someone who is not a leaver like Gove. But they may end up with a semi-remainer when the chaos around Bozza clears.
Can't stop laughing. So predictable.
The polling says 'Boris' is less important to the Tories than 'Brexit'.
If the latter isn't delivered, who is leader is of little relevance.
Only minor difference is Yougov says the Tories would be 3rd with Boris tied with Labour but 4th with Hunt on just 17 seats (In the latter scenario May in Maidenhead and Surrey South West would be amongst the few survivors of the meltdown and the Brexit Party would win a majority of 38 with 344 seats).
Yvette Cooper would also lose her seat to Farage's Party
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/cgi-bin/usercode.py?CON=18&LAB=19&LIB=22&Brexit=27&Green=7&UKIP=2&TVCON=&TVLAB=&TVLIB=&TVBrexit=&TVGreen=&TVUKIP=&SCOTCON=&SCOTLAB=&SCOTLIB=&SCOTBrexit=&SCOTGreen=&SCOTUKIP=&SCOTNAT=&display=AllChanged&regorseat=(none)&boundary=2017base0 -
These new-fangled drone contraptions must be incredibly frustrating to Bolton and the other hawks trying the old Cuban Missile Crisis tactic of sending aircraft over to get shot down and escalate the crisis. They must be asking Lockheed Martin if there isn't a way they could at least get a little dog in there or something.rottenborough said:
Make Our Drones Manned!0 -
I'm back home. Let's cheer people up. Did you know today is National Onion Ring Day? Yes, it really is.
https://medium.com/myplayground/the-origin-of-national-onion-ring-day-47647e0d9b250 -
Bugger Byronic being SeanT, has Boris been SeanT all along?0
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UAS crews experience a very high level of immersion and do feel it when they lose the aircraft. Obviously it's nothing like getting blasted out of the jet with a broken back and burnt hands to have fags put out on you by the IRGC when you land but it's not nothing.CarlottaVance said:Phew! There's a relief! I was worrying about the pilot of that unmanned drone.....
https://twitter.com/HuffPostPol/status/11422200893679656980 -
A nuance I’m sure was uppermost in the Orange head.Dura_Ace said:
UAS crews experience a very high level of immersion and do feel it when they lose the aircraft. Obviously it's nothing like getting blasted out of the jet with a broken back and burnt hands to have fags put out on you by the IRGC when you land but it's not nothing.CarlottaVance said:Phew! There's a relief! I was worrying about the pilot of that unmanned drone.....
https://twitter.com/HuffPostPol/status/1142220089367965698
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I'm calling bullshit on this domestic. Don't believe a word of it.0
