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Quite the story in today's Sunday Times. Steve Baker is 200/1 with BetFred and 150/1 with Ladbrokes, PaddyPower, and SkyBet to succeed Mrs May as next PM. I've decided to back him.
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Would truly be the end of days for the current party were he to be the next leader.0
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Has Baker revealed what he would do as leader ?0
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> @another_richard said:
> Has Baker revealed what he would do as leader ?
Revert to his original beliefs and advocate joining the Euro.0 -
> @williamglenn said:
> > @another_richard said:
> > Has Baker revealed what he would do as leader ?
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> Revert to his original beliefs and advocate joining the Euro.
Considering he's doing everything he can to stop Brexit I wouldn't be surprised.0 -
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Damn, just when the punning contest on the other thread was getting interesting.
Still, neither you nor I'm to blame when all is said and done.0 -
How many candidates are already declared or openly considering a bid? Even Larry the cat seems to be weighing his chances.0
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He won't get any votes. Next.0
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A lot of these Brexiteers are just trying to raise their profiles to get jobs in government when there’s a Brexiteer leader. The ERG will want to ensure a Brexiteer gets to the last 2 candidates so I’m sure they’ll have their own meeting to agree a list of candidates.0
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I wouldn't be surprised if there was a big name knocked out early due to their run-off voting system, but I don't see how it can end with 2 remainer candidates. Let's say there are 3 candidates left, 2 remainers and a leaver - how does the leaver not get through?
Of course we say 'Leaver'. I really think we should start thinking of the camps as 'Remainers', 'Dealers', 'No Dealers' given how the latter two sets don't vote together either. Could we end without a No Dealer in the members ballot? Maybe.0 -
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Another crazy day for the Tories.0
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> @AndyJS said:
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> I have a funny feeling they're going to do badly at the Euro elections as expected and then win the Peterborough by-election which means it'll be difficult to assess how they're doing overall.
They're 20-1 in Peterborough ! Taken £2 of that, good price but market reckons they'll be third.0 -
> @Roger said:
> Blue Moon
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0fy1HeJv80
Got your Man City top on today Rog ?0 -
Unusual day today. Solar appears to be supplying about a quarter of all our power:
https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk
More than nuclear or wind.
Does mean at sunset they're going to have crank up the gas and possibly coal though.0 -
> @AndyJS said:
> > @Pulpstar said:
> > Another crazy day for the Tories.
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> I have a funny feeling they're going to do badly at the Euro elections as expected and then win the Peterborough by-election which means it'll be difficult to assess how they're doing overall. <
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No way they win Peterborough. They'll come third.0 -
Not even his own?Luckyguy1983 said:He won't get any votes. Next.
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Not even his own?Luckyguy1983 said:He won't get any votes. Next.
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> @ydoethur said:
> Damn, just when the punning contest on the other thread was getting interesting.
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> Still, neither you nor I'm to blame when all is said and done.
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In Scandinavia in high summer the sun can stay out for almost 24 hours.
Meaning that you can get a tan after midnight.
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Thank you for the musing.kinabalu said:> @ydoethur said:
> Damn, just when the punning contest on the other thread was getting interesting.
> Still, neither you nor I'm to blame when all is said and done.
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In Scandinavia in high summer the sun can stay out for almost 24 hours.
Meaning that you can get a tan after midnight.0 -
> @Gardenwalker said:
> Britain, 2019
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> https://twitter.com/gabrielmilland/status/1127531208781520901
No, my dear old Cymruphobic and Remainery bigot, it is England as it ever was.
Welsh spoken, get out of my shop, get out of my pub, get out of my bingo hall get out of my travel agent,
https://tinyurl.com/y66c36go
https://tinyurl.com/y6e96pe7
https://tinyurl.com/y4zh3cxj
https://tinyurl.com/y65j42u7
There are many more more examples of the "Welsh in their dunghills" (your charming phrase) being told not to speak Welsh.
The only difference between these and your example is that the Welsh speakers were (mostly) in Wales.
For a proper analogy, the Swedish speakers should actually have been harassed for speaking Swedish in Sweden.0 -
> @ydoethur said:
> Unusual day today. Solar appears to be supplying about a quarter of all our power:
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> https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk
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> More than nuclear or wind.
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> Does mean at sunset they're going to have crank up the gas and possibly coal though.
Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.0 -
> @AndyJS said:
> > @Pulpstar said:
> > Another crazy day for the Tories.
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> I have a funny feeling they're going to do badly at the Euro elections as expected and then win the Peterborough by-election which means it'll be difficult to assess how they're doing overall.
BP win Peterborough I think. Posh goes Tosh.0 -
At this point it would probably be easier to compile a list of who ISN'T running in the Tory leadership contest!!
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Likewise wind, unless we stand Boris under the turbines.SandyRentool said:Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.0 -
I'm not. I'm not a member and I'm too sane, honest and intelligent.GIN1138 said:At this point it would probably be easier to compile a list of who ISN'T running in the Tory leadership contest!!
Jeremy Corbyn isn't. He's not a member.
Nigel Farage isn't. He's a colossal member, but that's not enough.0 -
Nigel Farage last backed for next Prime Minister at 20 on Betfair. I’d suggest laying but I am pretty sure that price is going to shorten further quite a bit in the coming weeks.0
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> @ydoethur said:
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> In Scandinavia in high summer the sun can stay out for almost 24 hours.
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> Thank you for the musing.
You da Man. That was my best and only. I've gone. Can't even try to go on.0 -
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Why lay that when you can lay "any other" apart from Con, Lab or LD to get most seats at 14?AlastairMeeks said:Nigel Farage last backed for next Prime Minister at 20 on Betfair. I’d suggest laying but I am pretty sure that price is going to shorten further quite a bit in the coming weeks.
If we rule out ChUK getting most seats, the only way it is worse is if TBP get most and Farage isnt PM
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> @ydoethur said:
> Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
> Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
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> Likewise wind, unless we stand Boris under the turbines.
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> That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.
Wasn't there something seriously amiss financially with the Swansea Bay project?0 -
As I recall it was very slightly cheaper than the nuclear disaster, oops, power station she OKed.OldKingCole said:> @ydoethur said:
> Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
> Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
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> Likewise wind, unless we stand Boris under the turbines.
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> That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.
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> @SandyRentool said:
> > @ydoethur said:
> > Unusual day today. Solar appears to be supplying about a quarter of all our power:
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> > Does mean at sunset they're going to have crank up the gas and possibly coal though.
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> Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
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> Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
Only until storage options improve. Some fairly large-scale batteries have been put in place and there are a variety of other methods being developed. Then excess solar can be timeshifted to satisfy evening peak demand.0 -
> @ydoethur said:
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> > Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
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> As I recall it was very slightly cheaper than the nuclear disaster, oops, power station she OKed.
And, IIRC, it was (nods to previous thread) largely British in funding and in technology.0 -
Also, given two out of three green-lighted nuclear plants have now gone, would have been much more likely to plug the huge holes we're facing.OldKingCole said:And, IIRC, it was (nods to previous thread) largely British in funding and in technology.
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> @isam said:
> Nigel Farage last backed for next Prime Minister at 20 on Betfair. I’d suggest laying but I am pretty sure that price is going to shorten further quite a bit in the coming weeks.
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> Why lay that when you can lay "any other" apart from Con, Lab or LD to get most seats at 14?
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> If we rule out ChUK getting most seats, the only way it is worse is if TBP get most and Farage isnt PM
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> EDIT Although I guess the next PM may well be in place before the next GE, my bad
Both are clear lays in my view but for the reason you gave in your edit, laying Nigel Farage for next Prime Minister is much more clearcut. It’s at best a 100/1 shot in my opinion.0 -
He’s not even an MP, so we’d need an election (or perhaps a by-election) first.AlastairMeeks said:> @isam said:
> Nigel Farage last backed for next Prime Minister at 20 on Betfair. I’d suggest laying but I am pretty sure that price is going to shorten further quite a bit in the coming weeks.
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> Why lay that when you can lay "any other" apart from Con, Lab or LD to get most seats at 14?
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> If we rule out ChUK getting most seats, the only way it is worse is if TBP get most and Farage isnt PM
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> EDIT Although I guess the next PM may well be in place before the next GE, my bad
Both are clear lays in my view but for the reason you gave in your edit, laying Nigel Farage for next Prime Minister is much more clearcut. It’s at best a 100/1 shot in my opinion.
Someone should put up a next-but-one PM market.0 -
I currently count 23 declared, considering or possible leadership candidates to replace Theresa May. These do not include the likes of Geoffrey Cox, Jacob Rees-Mogg or Philip Hammond who have shown no public interest in the role even though they have had their proponents.0
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Brian Walden has died at 86. He supported Brexit - though had been an Anti- Marketeer even back in the 1960s.0
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> @Sandpit said:
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Sad news on Walden
Boy, do we need someone like him around now.0 -
The # of Tory leadership wannabes is ridiculous.
It just shows how many talentless people who believe utterly in themselves and have no inkling of their true abilities are in frontline politics these days.
What a joke.0 -
> @rottenborough said:
> The # of Tory leadership wannabes is ridiculous.
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Except the most reliable sources of tidal energy are in Scotland and apparently the union can not be guaranteedydoethur said:
Likewise wind, unless we stand Boris under the turbines.SandyRentool said:Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.0 -
> @ydoethur said:
> And, IIRC, it was (nods to previous thread) largely British in funding and in technology.
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> Also, given two out of three green-lighted nuclear plants have now gone, would have been much more likely to plug the huge holes we're facing.
What a triumph May's administration has been.
Future generations will marvel.0 -
> @williamglenn said:
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> Or a how many more PMs will the UK have before it breaks up market?
Boris followed by Corbyn then Farage0 -
Support for Swansea rises and fallsydoethur said:
Also, given two out of three green-lighted nuclear plants have now gone, would have been much more likely to plug the huge holes we're facing.OldKingCole said:And, IIRC, it was (nods to previous thread) largely British in funding and in technology.
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> @Charles said:
> Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
> Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
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> Likewise wind, unless we stand Boris under the turbines.
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> That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.
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> Except the most reliable sources of tidal energy are in Scotland and apparently the union can not be guaranteed
England imports gas from Qatar and Russia. Scottish leccy should be no less acceptable.0 -
Is Chris Rea, joint at #18 on the donation list, the singer Chris Rea?0
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> @rottenborough said:
> Is Chris Rea, joint at #18 on the donation list, the singer Chris Rea?
Either way, the Tories are on the road to hell.0 -
What’s most interesting about that list is that a relatively* small amount puts you in the top 20.rottenborough said:
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> @Cyclefree said:
> Brian Walden has died at 86. He supported Brexit - though had been an Anti- Marketeer even back in the 1960s.
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> A bloody good interviewer. And apparently made a very fine speech in Parliament against capital punishment.
He was a great House of Commons orator - the Chamber filled up when he was about to speak.0 -
Good afternoon, everyone.
F1: modest profit for the race, which is quite nice.0 -
Well done. Not a bad race in the end, despite threatening to be very boring at one point.Morris_Dancer said:Good afternoon, everyone.
F1: modest profit for the race, which is quite nice.0 -
Morris and Sandpit: no spoilers please!0
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We shouldn’t be dependent on any single type or source of energy. It creates a strategic vulnerabilitySandyRentool said:> @Charles said:
> Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
> Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
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> Likewise wind, unless we stand Boris under the turbines.
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> That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.
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> Except the most reliable sources of tidal energy are in Scotland and apparently the union can not be guaranteed
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Mr. Sandpit, slightly unfortunate that the start saw two of my bets become very improbable, although it did help the other two. Mildly annoyed I didn't back something, spoiler deleted. But then, predicting race results after the race has occurred isn't terribly difficult.0
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> @rottenborough said:
> https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1127561773001916416
Did the donation from Chris Rea come with a stipulation that the Tories had to follow the road to hell?0 -
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If the sun stops shining, we'll have other things to worry about than electricity.0 -
Mr. W, sorry, amended a minor spoiler above.0
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Yes. But what happens if China stops the export of the rare earths required to repair solar panels?williamglenn said:> @Charles said:
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Can we have 1:34 of no posting while we listen in silence to this please?justin124 said:Brian Walden has died at 86. He supported Brexit - though had been an Anti- Marketeer even back in the 1960s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuLHwF5x8ZM
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I would be very surprised if even Scotland's famous tidal races are a greater potential source of power than the Bristol Channel/Severn Estuary, properly harnessed.Charles said:
Except the most reliable sources of tidal energy are in Scotland and apparently the union can not be guaranteedydoethur said:
Likewise wind, unless we stand Boris under the turbines.SandyRentool said:Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.0 -
> @Charles said:
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> @Charles said:
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> We shouldn’t be dependent on any single type or source of energy. It creates a strategic vulnerability
We could do wind : solar : tidal : nuclear in a ratio something like 4 : 2 : 1 : 1 for the year, but varying with the seasons with the greater wind in winter helping to cover winter heating and storage to match up peaks in supply with peaks in demand.0 -
Church burnt down and Christians shot:
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Although the Severn Estuary tidal scheme is not without environmental implicationsydoethur said:
I would be very surprised if even Scotland's famous tidal races are a greater potential source of power than the Bristol Channel/Severn Estuary, properly harnessed.Charles said:
Except the most reliable sources of tidal energy are in Scotland and apparently the union can not be guaranteedydoethur said:
Likewise wind, unless we stand Boris under the turbines.SandyRentool said:Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.0 -
The surfers won’t be happy if they lose the ‘bore’.Charles said:
Although the Severn Estuary tidal scheme is not without environmental implicationsydoethur said:
I would be very surprised if even Scotland's famous tidal races are a greater potential source of power than the Bristol Channel/Severn Estuary, properly harnessed.Charles said:
Except the most reliable sources of tidal energy are in Scotland and apparently the union can not be guaranteedydoethur said:
Likewise wind, unless we stand Boris under the turbines.SandyRentool said:Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.0 -
You’d have thought a mixed source strategy would be classed under “blindingly obvious” but apparently notOblitusSumMe said:> @Charles said:
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Warning everyone: we have a dull obsessive on the sitewilliamglenn said:> @Charles said:
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There are ways of harnessing the tidal race that wouldn't cost them the bore.Sandpit said:
The surfers won’t be happy if they lose the ‘bore’.Charles said:
Although the Severn Estuary tidal scheme is not without environmental implicationsydoethur said:
I would be very surprised if even Scotland's famous tidal races are a greater potential source of power than the Bristol Channel/Severn Estuary, properly harnessed.Charles said:
Except the most reliable sources of tidal energy are in Scotland and apparently the union can not be guaranteedydoethur said:
Likewise wind, unless we stand Boris under the turbines.SandyRentool said:Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.
Failing all else, we could send David Drew along. Man can bore for England.0 -
The UK left 2019
http://hurryupharry.org/2019/05/11/antisemitism-in-the-heart-of-london/
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> @Morris_Dancer said:
> Church burnt down and Christians shot:
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-48246715
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> @williamglenn said:
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It would be possible to say without fear of exaggeration that Notts were having the worst cricket match this afternoon - were not I also able to see what was happening to Hampshire.0
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You mean some of us aren’t?Charles said:
Warning everyone: we have a dull obsessive on the sitewilliamglenn said:> @Charles said:
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> @Pulpstar said:
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Yes, I can see that. And what a sequence!
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You and I share an obsession with Graham Kendrick perhaps.El_Capitano said:
You mean some of us aren’t?Charles said:
Warning everyone: we have a dull obsessive on the sitewilliamglenn said:> @Charles said:
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F1: spoilers abound within the post-race analysis:
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It wasn’t an attack - a statement of fact.williamglenn said:> @Charles said:
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"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." - Mrs T
We had the potential for an interesting discussion about energy strategy. You sidelined it into another boring discussion about Brexit. You and I disagree.0 -
FPT (in relation to Asia Bibi):-Morris_Dancer said:Church burnt down and Christians shot:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-48246715
More than an apology is needed. Real action to help those being persecuted in countries where we can and do have influence is needed. We could, for instance, offer asylum to persecuted Syrian Christians. To date I believe we have offered asylum to precisely zero such people.
It is quite shameful.0 -
> @justin124 said:
> Brian Walden has died at 86. He supported Brexit - though had been an Anti- Marketeer even back in the 1960s.
He was great on Weekend World. Used to love that prog. When all the other kids were out playing in the woods I'd be inside glued to that, watching Walden interview some prominent politician for a full hour in tremendous depth. My pals would try and get me to come out but I would always refuse if WW was on. After a while they got the message and stopped coming round. Happy days. RIP Brian.0 -
Man City champions despite Liverpool winning...0
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I believe they were prioritised for support in the campsCyclefree said:
FPT (in relation to Asia Bibi):-Morris_Dancer said:Church burnt down and Christians shot:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-48246715
More than an apology is needed. Real action to help those being persecuted in countries where we can and do have influence is needed. We could, for instance, offer asylum to persecuted Syrian Christians. To date I believe we have offered asylum to precisely zero such people.
It is quite shameful.0 -
I say this as bloke who has fallen out of love with football....What a season for Liverpool, 97 points, only one defeat and 25 points clear of the team below them and still come runners up. A hell of an effort.0
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Anyway, off topic: the weather today has been glorious. I have been in my garden enjoying the roses, the smell of honey from my euphorbia mellifera, bees buzzing and birds singing. My dog, after a lovely long walk, is snoozing next to me. The washing is drying - for free. All is peaceful and calm.
If only every day were like this.
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> > Warning everyone: we have a dull obsessive on the site
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> "I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." - Mrs T
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> It wasn’t an attack - a statement of fact.
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> We had the potential for an interesting discussion about energy strategy. You sidelined it into another boring discussion about Brexit. You and I disagree.
It’s not my fault European integration is relevant to the subject at hand.0
