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Quite the story in today's Sunday Times. Steve Baker is 200/1 with BetFred and 150/1 with Ladbrokes, PaddyPower, and SkyBet to succeed Mrs May as next PM. I've decided to back him.
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> Has Baker revealed what he would do as leader ?
Revert to his original beliefs and advocate joining the Euro.
> > @another_richard said:
> > Has Baker revealed what he would do as leader ?
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> Revert to his original beliefs and advocate joining the Euro.
Considering he's doing everything he can to stop Brexit I wouldn't be surprised.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1izigJX1pxI
Still, neither you nor I'm to blame when all is said and done.
Of course we say 'Leaver'. I really think we should start thinking of the camps as 'Remainers', 'Dealers', 'No Dealers' given how the latter two sets don't vote together either. Could we end without a No Dealer in the members ballot? Maybe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0fy1HeJv80
> Another crazy day for the Tories.
I have a funny feeling they're going to do badly at the Euro elections as expected and then win the Peterborough by-election which means it'll be difficult to assess how they're doing overall.
> > @Pulpstar said:
> > Another crazy day for the Tories.
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> I have a funny feeling they're going to do badly at the Euro elections as expected and then win the Peterborough by-election which means it'll be difficult to assess how they're doing overall.
They're 20-1 in Peterborough ! Taken £2 of that, good price but market reckons they'll be third.
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0fy1HeJv80
Got your Man City top on today Rog ?
https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk
More than nuclear or wind.
Does mean at sunset they're going to have crank up the gas and possibly coal though.
> > @Pulpstar said:
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> I have a funny feeling they're going to do badly at the Euro elections as expected and then win the Peterborough by-election which means it'll be difficult to assess how they're doing overall. <
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No way they win Peterborough. They'll come third.
> Damn, just when the punning contest on the other thread was getting interesting.
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> Still, neither you nor I'm to blame when all is said and done.
Yes, sorry, Abba, I was too late with mine -
In Scandinavia in high summer the sun can stay out for almost 24 hours.
Meaning that you can get a tan after midnight.
> Britain, 2019
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> https://twitter.com/gabrielmilland/status/1127531208781520901
No, my dear old Cymruphobic and Remainery bigot, it is England as it ever was.
Welsh spoken, get out of my shop, get out of my pub, get out of my bingo hall get out of my travel agent,
https://tinyurl.com/y66c36go
https://tinyurl.com/y6e96pe7
https://tinyurl.com/y4zh3cxj
https://tinyurl.com/y65j42u7
There are many more more examples of the "Welsh in their dunghills" (your charming phrase) being told not to speak Welsh.
The only difference between these and your example is that the Welsh speakers were (mostly) in Wales.
For a proper analogy, the Swedish speakers should actually have been harassed for speaking Swedish in Sweden.
> Unusual day today. Solar appears to be supplying about a quarter of all our power:
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> https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk
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> More than nuclear or wind.
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> Does mean at sunset they're going to have crank up the gas and possibly coal though.
Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
> > @Pulpstar said:
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> I have a funny feeling they're going to do badly at the Euro elections as expected and then win the Peterborough by-election which means it'll be difficult to assess how they're doing overall.
BP win Peterborough I think. Posh goes Tosh.
That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.
Jeremy Corbyn isn't. He's not a member.
Nigel Farage isn't. He's a colossal member, but that's not enough.
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> > Damn, just when the punning contest on the other thread was getting interesting.
> > Still, neither you nor I'm to blame when all is said and done.
> Yes, sorry, I was too late with mine -
> In Scandinavia in high summer the sun can stay out for almost 24 hours.
> Meaning that you can get a tan after midnight.
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> Thank you for the musing.
You da Man. That was my best and only. I've gone. Can't even try to go on.
If not he's toast...
If we rule out ChUK getting most seats, the only way it is worse is if TBP get most and Farage isnt PM
EDIT Although I guess the next PM may well be in place before the next GE, my bad
> LEAVE MEANS STEVE
Hi Steve, welcome to PB. Good luck with the campaign.
> Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
> Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
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> Likewise wind, unless we stand Boris under the turbines.
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> That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.
Wasn't there something seriously amiss financially with the Swansea Bay project?
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> > Unusual day today. Solar appears to be supplying about a quarter of all our power:
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> > Does mean at sunset they're going to have crank up the gas and possibly coal though.
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> Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
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> Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
Only until storage options improve. Some fairly large-scale batteries have been put in place and there are a variety of other methods being developed. Then excess solar can be timeshifted to satisfy evening peak demand.
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> > That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.
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> Wasn't there something seriously amiss financially with the Swansea Bay project?
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> As I recall it was very slightly cheaper than the nuclear disaster, oops, power station she OKed.
And, IIRC, it was (nods to previous thread) largely British in funding and in technology.
> Nigel Farage last backed for next Prime Minister at 20 on Betfair. I’d suggest laying but I am pretty sure that price is going to shorten further quite a bit in the coming weeks.
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> Why lay that when you can lay "any other" apart from Con, Lab or LD to get most seats at 14?
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> If we rule out ChUK getting most seats, the only way it is worse is if TBP get most and Farage isnt PM
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> EDIT Although I guess the next PM may well be in place before the next GE, my bad
Both are clear lays in my view but for the reason you gave in your edit, laying Nigel Farage for next Prime Minister is much more clearcut. It’s at best a 100/1 shot in my opinion.
Someone should put up a next-but-one PM market.
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> Someone should put up a next-but-one PM market.
Or a how many more PMs will the UK have before it breaks up market?
Boy, do we need someone like him around now.
It just shows how many talentless people who believe utterly in themselves and have no inkling of their true abilities are in frontline politics these days.
What a joke.
> The # of Tory leadership wannabes is ridiculous.
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> It just shows how many talentless people who believe utterly in themselves and have no inkling of their true abilities are in frontline politics these days.
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> What a joke.
I may have missed some.
> And, IIRC, it was (nods to previous thread) largely British in funding and in technology.
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> Also, given two out of three green-lighted nuclear plants have now gone, would have been much more likely to plug the huge holes we're facing.
What a triumph May's administration has been.
Future generations will marvel.
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> Or a how many more PMs will the UK have before it breaks up market?
Boris followed by Corbyn then Farage
> Solar is not a good option for the UK. Generation is countercyclical with demand. Better to invest in despatchable low carbon energy that is actually available at 5pm in January.
> Every MW of solar capacity has to be duplicated with a MW of something to switch to when the sun ain't shining.
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> Likewise wind, unless we stand Boris under the turbines.
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> That's why we should have gone with tidal and May is a muppet for failing to do so.
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> Except the most reliable sources of tidal energy are in Scotland and apparently the union can not be guaranteed
England imports gas from Qatar and Russia. Scottish leccy should be no less acceptable.
> Is Chris Rea, joint at #18 on the donation list, the singer Chris Rea?
Either way, the Tories are on the road to hell.
* eg vs the US
> Brian Walden has died at 86. He supported Brexit - though had been an Anti- Marketeer even back in the 1960s.
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> A bloody good interviewer. And apparently made a very fine speech in Parliament against capital punishment.
He was a great House of Commons orator - the Chamber filled up when he was about to speak.
F1: modest profit for the race, which is quite nice.
> https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1127561773001916416
Did the donation from Chris Rea come with a stipulation that the Tories had to follow the road to hell?
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> We shouldn’t be dependent on any single type or source of energy. It creates a strategic vulnerability
If the sun stops shining, we'll have other things to worry about than electricity.
People really are losing all sense of perspective right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuLHwF5x8ZM
Used to be on the tv when I came back from playing football as a kid
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> Except the most reliable sources of tidal energy are in Scotland and apparently the union can not be guaranteed
We're gonna need a bigger union.
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> We shouldn’t be dependent on any single type or source of energy. It creates a strategic vulnerability
We could do wind : solar : tidal : nuclear in a ratio something like 4 : 2 : 1 : 1 for the year, but varying with the seasons with the greater wind in winter helping to cover winter heating and storage to match up peaks in supply with peaks in demand.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-48246715
Failing all else, we could send David Drew along. Man can bore for England.
http://hurryupharry.org/2019/05/11/antisemitism-in-the-heart-of-london/
You Labour moderates proud to support this crap?
> Church burnt down and Christians shot:
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-48246715
Unfortunately part of an ongoing series of actions
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> Warning everyone: we have a dull obsessive on the site
"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." - Mrs T
> > @rottenborough said:
> > https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1127561773001916416
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> Did the donation from Chris Rea come with a stipulation that the Tories had to follow the road to hell?
They certainly seem to have taken that to heart.....
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> <img src="https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1e/3b/63/1e3b63ca72eb20ff2a7e8aeefa114901--margaret-thatcher-quotes-the-iron-lady.jpg">
oh the irony.....
> > @williamglenn said:
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> > Or a how many more PMs will the UK have before it breaks up market?
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> Boris followed by Corbyn then Farage
Yes, I can see that. And what a sequence!
We'll be like a cat in a spin dryer.
https://enormo-haddock.blogspot.com/2019/05/spain-post-race-analysis-2019.html
We had the potential for an interesting discussion about energy strategy. You sidelined it into another boring discussion about Brexit. You and I disagree.
More than an apology is needed. Real action to help those being persecuted in countries where we can and do have influence is needed. We could, for instance, offer asylum to persecuted Syrian Christians. To date I believe we have offered asylum to precisely zero such people.
It is quite shameful.
> Brian Walden has died at 86. He supported Brexit - though had been an Anti- Marketeer even back in the 1960s.
He was great on Weekend World. Used to love that prog. When all the other kids were out playing in the woods I'd be inside glued to that, watching Walden interview some prominent politician for a full hour in tremendous depth. My pals would try and get me to come out but I would always refuse if WW was on. After a while they got the message and stopped coming round. Happy days. RIP Brian.
If only every day were like this.
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> "I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." - Mrs T
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> It wasn’t an attack - a statement of fact.
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> We had the potential for an interesting discussion about energy strategy. You sidelined it into another boring discussion about Brexit. You and I disagree.
It’s not my fault European integration is relevant to the subject at hand.