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  • brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    You know, these European Parliament election thingys are fun. Can we keep them after we leave?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,861
    Dr. Foxy, quite right. Mr. Doethur is clearly ovary-acting.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 75,151
    And another England batsman does what England batsmen do best...

    Nine of this side have played for England, and of the other two one played for years for South Africa and took 309 test wickets and 188 ODI wickets.

    Of the Gloucestershire side, one has played for, er, South Australia.

    This is just incredible. At the halfway stage I expected it to be done within 20 overs, but not quite like this!
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 18,361

    ydoethur said:

    If you are a Surrey supporter, DO NOT look at the scorecard from Bristol, or you will die of terminal embarrassment.

    All those England batsman doing that they do best...
    Nice little 150 from Ballance today for Yorkshire, who are cruising towards a win over Leics today though (famous last words).
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,736
    kle4 said:

    The SW looks a mess.

    If CHUK get nothing what is their purpose outside of Westminster and this parliament Specifically?
    No SW seat for Labour?
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143

    kle4 said:

    The SW looks a mess.

    If CHUK get nothing what is their purpose outside of Westminster and this parliament Specifically?
    No SW seat for Labour?
    There's a reduction in the Labour vote, they fall behind the Greens and the Lib Dems it looks like.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,235
    ydoethur said:
    For those interested this is the actual judgment: http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/docs/default-source/cos-general-docs/pdf-docs-for-opinions/2019scedin32.pdf?sfvrsn=0

    It is actually a rather good piece of prose, measured, clear and careful. It is worth a bit of time for those who have it.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 28,179

    PeterC said:

    I deplore government by referendum, but circumstances may leave us with no choice but to accept another wretched plebiscite. Should the question be resolved in favour of REMAIN far thinking conservatives (who have always excelled at adapt and survive) need to think about how the conservative party might reinvent itself as a pro-European party.

    Thus cementing the party's final slide into oblivion. I am afraid this kind of thinking is 'wrong sort of voter' territory.
    Not really. There is a big gap in the market for a centre-right pro-business pro-competition smaller-state Remain-but-not-federalise fiscally-prudent political party. Indeed, shorn of the Eurosceptic nutcases, it might be quite popular.
    There's probably a 10% gap in the market for such a party.

    Where does that get you under FPTP ?
    Nah, it's at least a 15% base, minimum, plus plenty more centrists depending on circumstances (which are quite favourable right now). But frankly, if all it does is keep the Brexit-UKIP-ERG rump out of power, that alone would be worthwhile.

    In any case, a system with at six or seven GB parties polling 5%+ would make FPTP unsustainable and would probably result in PR following one or two more hung parliaments.
    Don't be silly DH.

    Such a party would be similar to the FDP in Germany but with the loss of Leaver voters.

    There really isn't much of a market for a small state pro business party outside of a few rich enclaves.

    The Conservatives, please note, are not such a party.
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