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She either lied to get elected, or she won’t give her electorate the opportunity to ratify her change of party.Nigel_Foremain said:
As I have met her on a number of occasions Richard, I have to tell you, you are talking bollox. She strikes me as a highly principled person. You don't agree with her world view, fine, but she is no more a liar than anyone else. Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage she ain'tRichard_Tyndall said:
You have my pity. Being represented by a liar like that cannot be something any reasonable person would be proud of.JosiasJessop said:
Since her constituency - in which I live - was strongly remain, you could argue that those statements cost her votes.
Besides, when the situation changes (and it sure as heck has changed), reasonable people can change their minds. We're nearly three years on from the referendum, and it's all a bit of a mess, isn't it?
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Just imagine selling your inheritance for a mess of pottage and then not even getting that.0
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Was Major the last time we had a PM better than the previous one?AndyJS said:
I feel sorry for her. Hope we don't end up with Raab, Johnson or Hunt next.Slackbladder said:well this seems very much like Endgame for this premiership.
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Richard, IMO you're out of order on this. Heaven forfend an MP follow the way her constituents voted in the referendum!Richard_Tyndall said:
I have little or no respect for MPs even at the best of times. But I certainly have no respect for MPs that lie openly to get themselves elected.Nigel_Foremain said:Richard, I don't think you are familiar with the area she represents. It is one of the strongest remain areas in the country. With respect to those quotes, they are not necessarily lies. I think the benefit of the doubt and some respect is due to those that change their mind when the facts become clearer, and they become clearer by the day that Brexit is a fiasco. I am sure you know the quote from John Maynard Keynes.
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Great. What do they plan to do next then? Particularly if the WA is, in fact, more popular than other options?TheWhiteRabbit said:Dan Sabbagh
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Labour sources in the division lobbies saying they think they have won comfortably0 -
To win a guaranteed extension from the EU, per the terms set out last weekend.DavidL said:So this isn’t a MV. What the hell is the point of that?
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Perhaps he asked for it, in order to be a latter day Enoch, and was told he was a Papist and therefore not eligibleAramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Emily Maitlis shamed him into it, by accusing him of taking the DUP whip .SandyRentool said:
That would be the same Moggster who stated he would stick with the Bowler Hats?TheScreamingEagles said:JRM in the aye lobby.
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Remembered that he takes the Papal whip!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Emily Maitlis shamed him into it, by accusing him of taking the DUP whip .SandyRentool said:
That would be the same Moggster who stated he would stick with the Bowler Hats?TheScreamingEagles said:JRM in the aye lobby.
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To show the EU that we're trying to avoid no deal, you know that thing leavers said was Project Fear but now say is nothing to be feared.DavidL said:So this isn’t a MV. What the hell is the point of that?
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Or change their minds...JosiasJessop said:
Richard, IMO you're out of order on this. Heaven forfend an MP follow the way her constituents voted in the referendum!Richard_Tyndall said:
I have little or no respect for MPs even at the best of times. But I certainly have no respect for MPs that lie openly to get themselves elected.Nigel_Foremain said:Richard, I don't think you are familiar with the area she represents. It is one of the strongest remain areas in the country. With respect to those quotes, they are not necessarily lies. I think the benefit of the doubt and some respect is due to those that change their mind when the facts become clearer, and they become clearer by the day that Brexit is a fiasco. I am sure you know the quote from John Maynard Keynes.
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BlairIanB2 said:
Was Major the last time we had a PM better than the previous one?AndyJS said:
I feel sorry for her. Hope we don't end up with Raab, Johnson or Hunt next.Slackbladder said:well this seems very much like Endgame for this premiership.
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We should use a soft C with CUK .. the Suckers !!!0
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Not at all. It is not the fact that she is a devout Remainer that is the problem, it is the fact she lied about it repeatedly at the election to make sure she got elected. Ken Clarke has my great admiration even though he is a devout Remainer because he has always been honest about his position and made clear he opposed Brexit at the last election.JosiasJessop said:
Richard, IMO you're out of order on this. Heaven forfend an MP follow the way her constituents voted in the referendum!Richard_Tyndall said:
I have little or no respect for MPs even at the best of times. But I certainly have no respect for MPs that lie openly to get themselves elected.Nigel_Foremain said:Richard, I don't think you are familiar with the area she represents. It is one of the strongest remain areas in the country. With respect to those quotes, they are not necessarily lies. I think the benefit of the doubt and some respect is due to those that change their mind when the facts become clearer, and they become clearer by the day that Brexit is a fiasco. I am sure you know the quote from John Maynard Keynes.
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Beeb estimated loss of 40-60, so presumably they are getting their information from PB.0
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But she is going to lose. Again.TheScreamingEagles said:
To show the EU that we're trying to avoid no deal, you know that thing leavers said was Project Fear but now say is nothing to be feared.DavidL said:So this isn’t a MV. What the hell is the point of that?
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Not making a huge mistake is basic thoBenpointer said:
BlairIanB2 said:
Was Major the last time we had a PM better than the previous one?AndyJS said:
I feel sorry for her. Hope we don't end up with Raab, Johnson or Hunt next.Slackbladder said:well this seems very much like Endgame for this premiership.
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Ayes 286
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Government loses 286-344.
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Like cex (the iffy second hand electronics store) is pronounced sex.Penddu said:We should use a soft C with CUK .. the Suckers !!!
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Government defeat by 58.0
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Nailed it!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Beeb estimated loss of 40-60, so presumably they are getting their information from PB.
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58 votes.0
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Out by one.El_Capitano said:Government loses 286-344.
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Game over, man. Game over.0
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Lost by 58. Not particularly close.0
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Their wifi network is called 'Unprotected cex', well the one in Sheffield does.FrancisUrquhart said:
Like cex (the iffy second hand electronics store) is pronounced sex.Penddu said:We should use a soft C with CUK .. the Suckers !!!
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Everyone knew that was very likely. But given the EU gave us a date based on the WA being approved this week, it’s only reasonable to at least try. My assumption is it is purely about positioning so that people who were crowing about the CU and referendum options getting more votes in IV1 can be told than MV2.5 got more, for what that is worth.DavidL said:
But she is going to lose. Again.TheScreamingEagles said:
To show the EU that we're trying to avoid no deal, you know that thing leavers said was Project Fear but now say is nothing to be feared.DavidL said:So this isn’t a MV. What the hell is the point of that?
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May: Nothing has changed0
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Well, that's a few quid for me at least.0
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No-one can be happy about this. Can someone tell me what to think please. I just have no idea anymore.0
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Jesus. Even now, nothing has changed. Is she that deluded?0
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Taking off and nuking the site from orbit has some appeal you have to admitDura_Ace said:Game over, man. Game over.
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It’s already in parliament’s hands, it doesn’t matter if she is or not. We shall see what they come up with on Monday.RochdalePioneers said:Jesus. Even now, nothing has changed. Is she that deluded?
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Not at all. She had made her personal views very clear wrt the referendum. I should know - I got the articles she wrote in our village paper! Now, I realise that you are an arch-leaver, but that doesn't make your comments about her correct.Richard_Tyndall said:
Not at all. It is not the fact that she is a devout Remainer that is the problem, it is the fact she lied about it repeatedly at the election to make sure she got elected. Ken Clarke has my great admiration even though he is a devout Remainer because he has always been honest about his position and made clear he opposed Brexit at the last election.JosiasJessop said:
Richard, IMO you're out of order on this. Heaven forfend an MP follow the way her constituents voted in the referendum!Richard_Tyndall said:
I have little or no respect for MPs even at the best of times. But I certainly have no respect for MPs that lie openly to get themselves elected.Nigel_Foremain said:Richard, I don't think you are familiar with the area she represents. It is one of the strongest remain areas in the country. With respect to those quotes, they are not necessarily lies. I think the benefit of the doubt and some respect is due to those that change their mind when the facts become clearer, and they become clearer by the day that Brexit is a fiasco. I am sure you know the quote from John Maynard Keynes.
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I think risking one's political career rather than support a course of action that you believe will cause immense damage to the country, nay, has already caused immense damage to the country, sounds a bit more principled than the ERG who have just caved in and left their friends the DUP isolated.RoyalBlue said:
She either lied to get elected, or she won’t give her electorate the opportunity to ratify her change of party.Nigel_Foremain said:
As I have met her on a number of occasions Richard, I have to tell you, you are talking bollox. She strikes me as a highly principled person. You don't agree with her world view, fine, but she is no more a liar than anyone else. Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage she ain'tRichard_Tyndall said:
You have my pity. Being represented by a liar like that cannot be something any reasonable person would be proud of.JosiasJessop said:
Since her constituency - in which I live - was strongly remain, you could argue that those statements cost her votes.
Besides, when the situation changes (and it sure as heck has changed), reasonable people can change their minds. We're nearly three years on from the referendum, and it's all a bit of a mess, isn't it?
That is not principled.
Try and be principled yourself; admit you just don't like her because she is opposed to Brexit. Or do you prefer the comfort of faux outrage so beloved of supporters of the self-harm that is otherwise known as Brexit? The self righteous bellowing of "blasphemer" at anyone that does not share your isolationist utopian religion?0 -
Theresa May: "I fear we are reaching the limits of this process in this house."
You can't ask for a much clearer hint than that!
Note that this gives Labour an even bigger incentive than they had before to continue with their wrecking tactics next Monday.0 -
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No it's because of messianic ERG fruitloopsTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Referendum and general election on the same day.SouthamObserver said:No-one can be happy about this. Can someone tell me what to think please. I just have no idea anymore.
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About half of his previous ERG support decided otherwiseTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
How many times will a "People's vote" be defeated
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He seems to have a different view of what her words were than I recall them being reported as. As for giving up, while she should move on to another option I don’t see how he is someone who can reasonably say that - no matter how many times it is shown the ERG’s preferred option is not supported by a lot more than don’t support May, they still insist it is their way or the high way.TheScreamingEagles said:
Or in short, STFU Steve Baker.
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I can only assume you were not paying attention when she said this then:JosiasJessop said:
Not at all. She had made her personal views very clear wrt the referendum. I should know - I got the articles she wrote in our village paper! Now, I realise that you are an arch-leaver, but that doesn't make your comments about her correct.Richard_Tyndall said:
Not at all. It is not the fact that she is a devout Remainer that is the problem, it is the fact she lied about it repeatedly at the election to make sure she got elected. Ken Clarke has my great admiration even though he is a devout Remainer because he has always been honest about his position and made clear he opposed Brexit at the last election.JosiasJessop said:
Richard, IMO you're out of order on this. Heaven forfend an MP follow the way her constituents voted in the referendum!Richard_Tyndall said:
I have little or no respect for MPs even at the best of times. But I certainly have no respect for MPs that lie openly to get themselves elected.Nigel_Foremain said:Richard, I don't think you are familiar with the area she represents. It is one of the strongest remain areas in the country. With respect to those quotes, they are not necessarily lies. I think the benefit of the doubt and some respect is due to those that change their mind when the facts become clearer, and they become clearer by the day that Brexit is a fiasco. I am sure you know the quote from John Maynard Keynes.
“We must respect the democratic outcome of the referendum and work positively together to ensure we make Brexit a success.”
“I was a remainer, but the EU ref result is final and cannot be rerun.”0 -
Hard to be unhappy about it either, unless you somehow didn't see this coming since last November.SouthamObserver said:No-one can be happy about this. Can someone tell me what to think please. I just have no idea anymore.
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A GE might well return an even more hung Parliament, although it might clear out some of the awkward squad.Richard_Nabavi said:Theresa May: "I fear we are reaching the limits of this process in this house."
You can't ask for a much clearer hint than that!
Note that this gives Labour an even bigger incentive than they had before to continue with their wrecking tactics next Monday.0 -
ERG and DUP finish brexitNorm said:
No it's because of messianic ERG fruitloopsTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
To agree the further extensionScott_P said:0 -
The ERG - particularly Steve Baker- are utter cretins. They had Brexit in their hands. They've blown it.kle4 said:
He seems to have a different view of what her words were than I recall them being reported as. As for giving up, while she should move on to another option I don’t see how he is someone who can reasonably say that - no matter how many times it is shown the ERG’s preferred option is not supported by a lot more than don’t support May, they still insist it is their way or the high way.TheScreamingEagles said:
Or in short, STFU Steve Baker.
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It’s both.Norm said:
No it's because of messianic ERG fruitloopsTheScreamingEagles said:
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You are repeating yourself Richard. I refer you to my answer earlier. The quote from John Maynard Keynes one? Only a few minutes ago.Richard_Tyndall said:
I can only assume you were not paying attention when she said this then:JosiasJessop said:
Not at all. She had made her personal views very clear wrt the referendum. I should know - I got the articles she wrote in our village paper! Now, I realise that you are an arch-leaver, but that doesn't make your comments about her correct.Richard_Tyndall said:
Not at all. It is not the fact that she is a devout Remainer that is the problem, it is the fact she lied about it repeatedly at the election to make sure she got elected. Ken Clarke has my great admiration even though he is a devout Remainer because he has always been honest about his position and made clear he opposed Brexit at the last election.JosiasJessop said:
Richard, IMO you're out of order on this. Heaven forfend an MP follow the way her constituents voted in the referendum!Richard_Tyndall said:
I have little or no respect for MPs even at the best of times. But I certainly have no respect for MPs that lie openly to get themselves elected.Nigel_Foremain said:Richard, I don't think you are familiar with the area she represents. It is one of the strongest remain areas in the country. With respect to those quotes, they are not necessarily lies. I think the benefit of the doubt and some respect is due to those that change their mind when the facts become clearer, and they become clearer by the day that Brexit is a fiasco. I am sure you know the quote from John Maynard Keynes.
“We must respect the democratic outcome of the referendum and work positively together to ensure we make Brexit a success.”
“I was a remainer, but the EU ref result is final and cannot be rerun.”0 -
She's once, twice, three times a loser and we haaaa-a-aate her...SandyRentool said:May: Nothing has changed
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NiceSean_F said:My guess is that the government gets 285 votes.
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I think we have to have a GE now. An utterly deadlocked parliament, even if the EU offers us the mercy of a long extension, the current Govt cannot do anything with it with this Parliament.
However, I wouldn't be at all surprised if we ended up with a similarly constituted House after that.
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Technically it is a misuse of procedure but it is the House's custom to allow the procedure to be used for party leaders to respond to big decisionsoxfordsimon said:These are not Points of Order - they are pointless pontificating
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So much for Norman Smith it will be close line from the Tory Broadcast Organisation !
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Good afternoon, everyone.
Just seen the news. Pretty surprised, to be honest.
Leclerc topped first practice, as tipped by me, each way, at 13 (14 with boost). Nice turn of luck.0 -
`It's a bit of a mystery why she joined the Conservatives rather than the Lib Dems She agreed with the Conservatives about very little.JosiasJessop said:
Not at all. She had made her personal views very clear wrt the referendum. I should know - I got the articles she wrote in our village paper! Now, I realise that you are an arch-leaver, but that doesn't make your comments about her correct.Richard_Tyndall said:
Not at all. It is not the fact that she is a devout Remainer that is the problem, it is the fact she lied about it repeatedly at the election to make sure she got elected. Ken Clarke has my great admiration even though he is a devout Remainer because he has always been honest about his position and made clear he opposed Brexit at the last election.JosiasJessop said:
Richard, IMO you're out of order on this. Heaven forfend an MP follow the way her constituents voted in the referendum!Richard_Tyndall said:
I have little or no respect for MPs even at the best of times. But I certainly have no respect for MPs that lie openly to get themselves elected.Nigel_Foremain said:Richard, I don't think you are familiar with the area she represents. It is one of the strongest remain areas in the country. With respect to those quotes, they are not necessarily lies. I think the benefit of the doubt and some respect is due to those that change their mind when the facts become clearer, and they become clearer by the day that Brexit is a fiasco. I am sure you know the quote from John Maynard Keynes.
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How many ERGs are still holding out? Most seem to have folded.Norm said:
No it's because of messianic ERG fruitloopsTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Then she is even more foolish than I imagined.CarlottaVance said:
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So staunch that they can't even vote for a Brexit that isn't Brexity enough.Razedabode said:
The ERG - particularly Steve Baker- are utter cretins. They had Brexit in their hands. They've blown it.kle4 said:
He seems to have a different view of what her words were than I recall them being reported as. As for giving up, while she should move on to another option I don’t see how he is someone who can reasonably say that - no matter how many times it is shown the ERG’s preferred option is not supported by a lot more than don’t support May, they still insist it is their way or the high way.TheScreamingEagles said:
Or in short, STFU Steve Baker.
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Congrats on ignoring my quibbling about the bet !Morris_Dancer said:Good afternoon, everyone.
Just seen the news. Pretty surprised, to be honest.
Leclerc topped first practice, as tipped by me, each way, at 13 (14 with boost). Nice turn of luck.0 -
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Will Theresa be the front man/woman for Con though?CarlottaVance said:
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Yes, I was paying attention. And you have not been paying attention as the project that you have supported for decades to leave the EU has descended into farce.Richard_Tyndall said:
I can only assume you were not paying attention when she said this then:JosiasJessop said:
Not at all. She had made her personal views very clear wrt the referendum. I should know - I got the articles she wrote in our village paper! Now, I realise that you are an arch-leaver, but that doesn't make your comments about her correct.Richard_Tyndall said:
Not at all. It is not the fact that she is a devout Remainer that is the problem, it is the fact she lied about it repeatedly at the election to make sure she got elected. Ken Clarke has my great admiration even though he is a devout Remainer because he has always been honest about his position and made clear he opposed Brexit at the last election.JosiasJessop said:
Richard, IMO you're out of order on this. Heaven forfend an MP follow the way her constituents voted in the referendum!Richard_Tyndall said:
I have little or no respect for MPs even at the best of times. But I certainly have no respect for MPs that lie openly to get themselves elected.Nigel_Foremain said:Richard, I don't think you are familiar with the area she represents. It is one of the strongest remain areas in the country. With respect to those quotes, they are not necessarily lies. I think the benefit of the doubt and some respect is due to those that change their mind when the facts become clearer, and they become clearer by the day that Brexit is a fiasco. I am sure you know the quote from John Maynard Keynes.
“We must respect the democratic outcome of the referendum and work positively together to ensure we make Brexit a success.”
“I was a remainer, but the EU ref result is final and cannot be rerun.”
The situation has changed. Reasonable people can change their minds. But Allen has not suddenly changed from a Europhobe into a remainer; she's always been a steadfast remainer. That's always been clear.0 -
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I'm thinking maybe it isn't up to her any more?Richard_Tyndall said:
I can only assume you were not paying attention when she said this then:JosiasJessop said:
Not at all. She had made her personal views very clear wrt the referendum. I should know - I got the articles she wrote in our village paper! Now, I realise that you are an arch-leaver, but that doesn't make your comments about her correct.Richard_Tyndall said:
Not at all. It is not the fact that she is a devout Remainer that is the problem, it is the fact she lied about it repeatedly at the election to make sure she got elected. Ken Clarke has my great admiration even though he is a devout Remainer because he has always been honest about his position and made clear he opposed Brexit at the last election.JosiasJessop said:
Richard, IMO you're out of order on this. Heaven forfend an MP follow the way her constituents voted in the referendum!Richard_Tyndall said:
I have little or no respect for MPs even at the best of times. But I certainly have no respect for MPs that lie openly to get themselves elected.Nigel_Foremain said:Richard, I don't think you are familiar with the area she represents. It is one of the strongest remain areas in the country. With respect to those quotes, they are not necessarily lies. I think the benefit of the doubt and some respect is due to those that change their mind when the facts become clearer, and they become clearer by the day that Brexit is a fiasco. I am sure you know the quote from John Maynard Keynes.
“We must respect the democratic outcome of the referendum and work positively together to ensure we make Brexit a success.”
“I was a remainer, but the EU ref result is final and cannot be rerun.”0 -
Not sure 25? Largely the boggley eyed variety.DavidL said:
How many ERGs are still holding out? Most seem to have folded.Norm said:
No it's because of messianic ERG fruitloopsTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
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It’s the only way.kle4 said:
An election now would be about Brexit, whatever Corbyn would prefer. As long as May can gather 80% of the Leaver vote and some anti-Corbynites, she will get her majority.
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Good guess! I was 270-280 votes and a defeat by 60-80 votes.Sean_F said:
Out by one.El_Capitano said:Government loses 286-344.
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ABout half I think.DavidL said:
How many ERGs are still holding out? Most seem to have folded.Norm said:
No it's because of messianic ERG fruitloopsTheScreamingEagles said:
Topic being discussed in the office - a few comments in support of May, surprisingly, mostly due to dislike of Boris it seems. Not really thinking about a GE yet, surprisingly.0 -
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No chance, there aren't that many supporters in any single constituency. Tommy Robinson MEP OTOH is not so far fetched.CarlottaVance said:0 -
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I thought he was back off to the clink due to that live streaming outside a trial?CarlottaVance said:0 -
I'm not so sure.Casino_Royale said:I think the Conservatives get hammered in any new GE.
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Isn't he in in the middle of yet more contempt of court proceedings? He's more chance of getting sentenced than elected.Pulpstar said:
No chance, there aren't that many supporters in any single constituency. Tommy Robinson MEP OTOH is not so far fetched.CarlottaVance said:0 -
I actually disagree with that as well. She's Conservative (if a centrist one) on many issues: yes, she has been against the party on some home issues, but then you could say the same about Cameron pre-2005 when the party was rather to the right.Sean_F said:
`It's a bit of a mystery why she joined the Conservatives rather than the Lib Dems She agreed with the Conservatives about very little.JosiasJessop said:
Not at all. She had made her personal views very clear wrt the referendum. I should know - I got the articles she wrote in our village paper! Now, I realise that you are an arch-leaver, but that doesn't make your comments about her correct.Richard_Tyndall said:
Not at all. It is not the fact that she is a devout Remainer that is the problem, it is the fact she lied about it repeatedly at the election to make sure she got elected. Ken Clarke has my great admiration even though he is a devout Remainer because he has always been honest about his position and made clear he opposed Brexit at the last election.JosiasJessop said:
Richard, IMO you're out of order on this. Heaven forfend an MP follow the way her constituents voted in the referendum!Richard_Tyndall said:
I have little or no respect for MPs even at the best of times. But I certainly have no respect for MPs that lie openly to get themselves elected.Nigel_Foremain said:Richard, I don't think you are familiar with the area she represents. It is one of the strongest remain areas in the country. With respect to those quotes, they are not necessarily lies. I think the benefit of the doubt and some respect is due to those that change their mind when the facts become clearer, and they become clearer by the day that Brexit is a fiasco. I am sure you know the quote from John Maynard Keynes.
Like Soubry, her attitude to the EU is the biggest point of divergence from the party.0 -
Or a referendum.CarlottaVance said:
A GE is playing Russian Roulette with the Tory Party. By all means do it, but from a position of strength.
Frankly, that is not currently the case.
As much as Corbyn is unelectable, the public is particularly febrile at present.0 -
The amount of times I was told Farage was a mad extremist and UKIP would widen their appeal when he left...CarlottaVance said:0 -
Hopefully for the sake of the country May will make a better fist of her second GE campaign.
That said, the macabre entertainment value in a Corbyn premiership would make a change from the daily ennui of Brexit. And he would then have to make some decisions!0 -
Mr. kle4, jumping from "I'll resign" to "I should lead us into another election because it turned out so well last time" is Baldrickesque.
Mr. B, thanks. I only had a little stake (as usual for bets of that nature).0
