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Andrew said:

"Not a proper party leader."

The jokes kinda write themselves at this stage.

And I heard he observes the sabbath

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

eek said:

Casino_Royale said:

IanB2 said:

Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

The counter is spinning happily.

Edit/ and the map of the signatures is interesting.

Why are we getting excited about 60,000 signatures on that?

I could see that easily it topping a million soon from those who hitherto supported a 2nd referendum.

70,000 now....

So what?

Unless the number gets huge I don't think it matters one iota, but it is fun watching you get exasperated by it. It is the People's Vote march all over again. I assume you are not going to challenge the numbers though on this are you?

I’m not exasperated I just think it’s irrelevant.

I certainly will challenge the numbers on the March if I think they’re called out incorrectly, which they almost certainly will be.

Remember: it was 270k marchers last time, not 700k.

Taking the bait eh. Only you thought it was 270K.

Yeah, @Casino_Royale wasn't there to count.

It was the second biggest political demonstration in British history, and the forecast looks good for Saturday to be a similar size.

It really seems to bother him that so many people have genuine affection for the EU and are happy to protest in its favour. I am sure there will be plenty of international news cover again.

Corbyn showing his narrow minded petulance I see.

Bodes really well for when he is PM.

Casino_Royale said:

RoyalBlue said:

Casino_Royale said:

RoyalBlue said:

Casino_Royale said:

rcs1000 said:

kle4 said:

It will never pass. No dealers have no reason to, and remainers are holding true to the faith, content they will not receive most of the blame if we no deal as a result.

The statement that the deal and no deal are disaster and catastrophe respectively means that anyone else must give up on Brexit at all - Labour members want that, as do most of their MPs, but that seems beyond them taking up as an official position.

OK.

So what happens next?

Will Justing Greening desert the Conservative Party for the TIGgers, and will Remainers looks to put a caretaker "government of national (remainer) unity" in place?

I think he’s right.

Non-starter. Corbyn would quite reasonably insist on leading at alternative administration, which would be unacceptable to any Tory.

I was referring to kle4.

Not enough ERG and DUP’ers have (or ever will) smell the coffee. And many of them think the coffee isn’t even there to be smelt.

So the Deal won’t pass, and we will end up revoking and remaining.

They will then start blaming people (including me) for the failure of Brexit.

I will do my best to deselect them.

The PM will not revoke. I am certain of that.

Besides, it’s not even clear she could, legally speaking.

She won’t. I mentioned that as the inevitable endgame.

All sorts of parliamentary and electoral routes to get there.

Casino, we differ on this, you'll remember but I hope we can remain friends, whoever is right.

https://twitter.com/jrmaidment/status/1108449803623690240

Corbyn is an utter utter cock isn't he....

Slackbladder said:

Corbyn is an utter utter cock isn't he....

its disgusting is what it is

https://twitter.com/GeneralBoles/status/1108450363278090242

AlastairMeeks said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/paulbranditv/status/1108447950659899393?s=21

What a manchild.

Well, he already is the worst LOTO in history, so nothing has changed.

Seems May has told the leaders and the Tig2 that she will leave with no deal. The Tig2 believe her.

Floater said:

Slackbladder said:

Corbyn is an utter utter cock isn't he....

its disgusting is what it is

We need a Government of national unity to save us from these idiots.

Whether you are pro or anti Brexit, I think we can all agree that we are being led by a bunch of clueless f*ckwits....

Luckyguy1983 said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/paulbranditv/status/1108447950659899393?s=21

Quite right.

Are you mad?

RoyalBlue said:

Foxy said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

eek said:

Casino_Royale said:

IanB2 said:

Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

The counter is spinning happily.

Edit/ and the map of the signatures is interesting.

Why are we getting excited about 60,000 signatures on that?

I could see that easily it topping a million soon from those who hitherto supported a 2nd referendum.

70,000 now....

So what?

Unless the number gets huge I don't think it matters one iota, but it is fun watching you get exasperated by it. It is the People's Vote march all over again. I assume you are not going to challenge the numbers though on this are you?

I’m not exasperated I just think it’s irrelevant.

I certainly will challenge the numbers on the March if I think they’re called out incorrectly, which they almost certainly will be.

Remember: it was 270k marchers last time, not 700k.

Taking the bait eh. Only you thought it was 270K.

Yeah, @Casino_Royale wasn't there to count.

It was the second biggest political demonstration in British history, and the forecast looks good for Saturday to be a similar size.

It really seems to bother him that so many people have genuine affection for the EU and are happy to protest in its favour. I am sure there will be plenty of international news cover again.

If people want to advertise their self-regard and immaturity, that’s fine. It’s tiresome that they block up the centre of the capital while doing so.

Are you talking about crowds of shoppers on Oxford Street?

Luckyguy1983 said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/paulbranditv/status/1108447950659899393?s=21

Quite right.

Being a party leader is not relevant when he still represents a group of MP as big as a party and which will be crucial to decisions moving forward

justin124 said:

rottenborough said:

Corbyn showing his narrow minded petulance I see.

Bodes really well for when he is PM.

Not entirely. I don't see that Chuka Umunna had any more entitlement to be at such a meeting than others such as Frank Field, Jared Omara - or indeed Fiona Onasanya.

Throwing his toys out of pram is such a good look at a time of national crisis eh?

Luckyguy1983 said:

williamglenn said:

https://twitter.com/paulbranditv/status/1108447950659899393?s=21

Quite right.

Corbyn. What a pitiful excuse for a Wazzock he is

justin124 said:

rottenborough said:

Corbyn showing his narrow minded petulance I see.

Bodes really well for when he is PM.

Not entirely. I don't see that Chuka Umunna had any more entitlement to be at such a meeting than others such as Frank Field, Jared Omara - or indeed Fiona Onasanya.

Except he does, because he is a spokesman for 10 other MPs and they are not. Independent Independents are not coordinated, but the Tiggers are, and a swing group of 11 MPs is significant. Entitlement to be there is meaningless, the issue would be does he have anything to add to the discussion. Given he potentially carries with him as many votes as the LDs, I'd say yes.

Casino_Royale said:

Foxy said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

eek said:

Casino_Royale said:

IanB2 said:

Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

The counter is spinning happily.

Edit/ and the map of the signatures is interesting.

Why are we getting excited about 60,000 signatures on that?

I could see that easily it topping a million soon from those who hitherto supported a 2nd referendum.

70,000 now....

So what?

Unless the number gets huge I don't think it matters one iota, but it is fun watching you get exasperated by it. It is the People's Vote march all over again. I assume you are not going to challenge the numbers though on this are you?

I’m not exasperated I just think it’s irrelevant.

I certainly will challenge the numbers on the March if I think they’re called out incorrectly, which they almost certainly will be.

Remember: it was 270k marchers last time, not 700k.

Taking the bait eh. Only you thought it was 270K.

Yeah, @Casino_Royale wasn't there to count.

It was the second biggest political demonstration in British history, and the forecast looks good for Saturday to be a similar size.

It really seems to bother him that so many people have genuine affection for the EU and are happy to protest in its favour. I am sure there will be plenty of international news cover again.

And you of course were an entirely neutral and objective observer as a participant.

The reason this lie got traction is because the police decided not to get involved in estimating the numbers. Because politics.

Still waiting for all those neutral links stating it was 270K that you referred to CS. Where are they?

Heres a thought

Corbyn really wants no deal - lets walk out of talks to avoid that

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

Foxy said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

eek said:

Casino_Royale said:

IanB2 said:

Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

The counter is spinning happily.

Edit/ and the map of the signatures is interesting.

Why are we getting excited about 60,000 signatures on that?

I could see that easily it topping a million soon from those who hitherto supported a 2nd referendum.

70,000 now....

So what?

Unless the number gets huge I don't think it matters one iota, but it is fun watching you get exasperated by it. It is the People's Vote march all over again. I assume you are not going to challenge the numbers though on this are you?

I’m not exasperated I just think it’s irrelevant.

I certainly will challenge the numbers on the March if I think they’re called out incorrectly, which they almost certainly will be.

Remember: it was 270k marchers last time, not 700k.

Taking the bait eh. Only you thought it was 270K.

Yeah, @Casino_Royale wasn't there to count.

It was the second biggest political demonstration in British history, and the forecast looks good for Saturday to be a similar size.

It really seems to bother him that so many people have genuine affection for the EU and are happy to protest in its favour. I am sure there will be plenty of international news cover again.

And you of course were an entirely neutral and objective observer as a participant.

The reason this lie got traction is because the police decided not to get involved in estimating the numbers. Because politics.

Still waiting for all those neutral links stating it was 270K that you referred to CS. Where are they?

I’ve already provided you one, sunshine.

ralphmalph said:

Seems May has told the leaders and the Tig2 that she will leave with no deal. The Tig2 believe her.

I don't believe her. If the Tiggers do, puts them in a bind as they cannot vote for the deal given their reasons for setting up the peoples vote group. So nothing has changed and they are back to hoping Labour and the Griever tendency can wrestle things away from May.

RoyalBlue said:

Foxy said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

eek said:

Casino_Royale said:

IanB2 said:

Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

The counter is spinning happily.

Edit/ and the map of the signatures is interesting.

Why are we getting excited about 60,000 signatures on that?

I could see that easily it topping a million soon from those who hitherto supported a 2nd referendum.

70,000 now....

So what?

Unless the number gets huge I don't think it matters one iota, but it is fun watching you get exasperated by it. It is the People's Vote march all over again. I assume you are not going to challenge the numbers though on this are you?

I’m not exasperated I just think it’s irrelevant.

I certainly will challenge the numbers on the March if I think they’re called out incorrectly, which they almost certainly will be.

Remember: it was 270k marchers last time, not 700k.

Taking the bait eh. Only you thought it was 270K.

Yeah, @Casino_Royale wasn't there to count.

It was the second biggest political demonstration in British history, and the forecast looks good for Saturday to be a similar size.

It really seems to bother him that so many people have genuine affection for the EU and are happy to protest in its favour. I am sure there will be plenty of international news cover again.

If people want to advertise their self-regard and immaturity, that’s fine. It’s tiresome that they block up the centre of the capital while doing so.

Freedom of peaceful and protest are fundamental parts of a working democracy.

The October march was unexpectedly large. The organisers anticipated something like 100k, and clearly there were many many more than that. I have been in crowds over 100 000 before and this was multiples of that. The most remarkeable bit was how peaceful and self policing it was, as the crowd far exceeded the numbers of stewards. Apart from stickering the Cabinet Office with "Bollocks to Brexit" stickers there was no trouble at all. All very civilised and British, and a stark contrast to Tommy Robinsons mob of Neon Nazis.

I am quite looking forward to Saturday, have my flags and signs ready, and have invested in a new megaphone. Mrs Foxy wants to march with the Tiggers, so we shall.

eek said:

IanB2 said:

Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

The counter is spinning happily.

Edit/ and the map of the signatures is interesting.

Does Parliament know something we don't?

From that page

Register to vote
To vote in local, national and EU elections, you must be registered to vote.

It takes less than 5 minutes.

More likely that the builders of the site view anyone looking at petitions, let alone signing them, as qualified potential customers for the franchise.

stodge said:

RoyalBlue said:

If people want to advertise their self-regard and immaturity, that’s fine. It’s tiresome that they block up the centre of the capital while doing so.

Do you think those who marched against the Iraq War and those who marched in favour of the Countryside (including a considerable number of Conservatives) were advertising their self regard and immaturity?

No, because those took place before any decision had been made in Parliament. The nation has voted to leave, in a referendum promised in the winning party’s manifesto, prior to which it was made clear that the decision would be implemented either way. Protesting the implementation of that decision is protesting democracy.

This long game is going well, eh?

IanB2 said:

C4 News saying the PM's statement will be a reiteration of her position.

So what was all that nonsense earlier about "cancel your dinner" , "it's going to be big", etc ?

A little dickie bird tells me May might have initially been trailed to say something else.

Casino_Royale said:

Peter_the_Punter said:

Casino_Royale said:

RoyalBlue said:

Casino_Royale said:

RoyalBlue said:

Casino_Royale said:

rcs1000 said:

kle4 said:

It will never pass. No dealers have no reason to, and remainers are holding true to the faith, content they will not receive most of the blame if we no deal as a result.

The statement that the deal and no deal are disaster and catastrophe respectively means that anyone else must give up on Brexit at all - Labour members want that, as do most of their MPs, but that seems beyond them taking up as an official position.

OK.

So what happens next?

Will Justing Greening desert the Conservative Party for the TIGgers, and will Remainers looks to put a caretaker "government of national (remainer) unity" in place?

I think he’s right.

Non-starter. Corbyn would quite reasonably insist on leading at alternative administration, which would be unacceptable to any Tory.

I was referring to kle4.

Not enough ERG and DUP’ers have (or ever will) smell the coffee. And many of them think the coffee isn’t even there to be smelt.

So the Deal won’t pass, and we will end up revoking and remaining.

They will then start blaming people (including me) for the failure of Brexit.

I will do my best to deselect them.

The PM will not revoke. I am certain of that.

Besides, it’s not even clear she could, legally speaking.

She won’t. I mentioned that as the inevitable endgame.

All sorts of parliamentary and electoral routes to get there.

Casino, we differ on this, you'll remember but I hope we can remain friends, whoever is right.

Of course, that isn’t in question.

Delete

Foxy said:

RoyalBlue said:

Foxy said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

eek said:

Casino_Royale said:

IanB2 said:

Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

The counter is spinning happily.

Edit/ and the map of the signatures is interesting.

Why are we getting excited about 60,000 signatures on that?

I could see that easily it topping a million soon from those who hitherto supported a 2nd referendum.

70,000 now....

So what?

Unless the number gets huge I don't think it matters one iota, but it is fun watching you get exasperated by it. It is the People's Vote march all over again. I assume you are not going to challenge the numbers though on this are you?

I’m not exasperated I just think it’s irrelevant.

I certainly will challenge the numbers on the March if I think they’re called out incorrectly, which they almost certainly will be.

Remember: it was 270k marchers last time, not 700k.

Taking the bait eh. Only you thought it was 270K.

If people want to advertise their self-regard and immaturity, that’s fine. It’s tiresome that they block up the centre of the capital while doing so.

Freedom of peaceful and protest are fundamental parts of a working democracy.

The October march was unexpectedly large. The organisers anticipated something like 100k, and clearly there were many many more than that. I have been in crowds over 100 000 before and this was multiples of that. The most remarkeable bit was how peaceful and self policing it was, as the crowd far exceeded the numbers of stewards. Apart from stickering the Cabinet Office with "Bollocks to Brexit" stickers there was no trouble at all. All very civilised and British, and a stark contrast to Tommy Robinsons mob of Neon Nazis.

I am quite looking forward to Saturday, have my flags and signs ready, and have invested in a new megaphone. Mrs Foxy wants to march with the Tiggers, so we shall.

And your “forces of light and dark” contrast between Remainers and Leavers is absolutely disgusting.

I could just as well highlight my absolute contempt for my fellow citizens who under a fit of pique decide to demonstrate their proclivity for Stockholm syndrome by marching with the Traitor’s Apron, rather than their own nation’s flag.

Casino_Royale said:

Foxy said:

RoyalBlue said:

Foxy said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

eek said:

Casino_Royale said:

IanB2 said:

Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

The counter is spinning happily.

Edit/ and the map of the signatures is interesting.

Why are we getting excited about 60,000 signatures on that?

I could see that easily it topping a million soon from those who hitherto supported a 2nd referendum.

70,000 now....

So what?

Un

I’m not exasperated I just think it’s irrelevant.

I certainly will challenge the numbers on the March if I think they’re called out incorrectly, which they almost certainly will be.

Remember: it was 270k marchers last time, not 700k.

Taking the bait eh. Only you thought it was 270K.

Yeah, @Casino_Royale wasn't there to count.

It was the second biggest political demonstration in British history, and the forecast looks good for Saturday to be a similar size.

If people want to advertise their self-regard and immaturity, that’s fine. It’s tiresome that they block up the centre of the capital while doing so.

Freedom of peaceful and protest are fundamental parts of a working democracy.

The October march was unexpectedly large. The organisers anticipated something like 100k, and clearly there were many many more than that. I have been in crowds over 100 000 before and this was multiples of that. The most remarkeable bit was how peaceful and self policing it was, as the crowd far exceeded the numbers of stewards. Apart from stickering the Cabinet Office with "Bollocks to Brexit" stickers there was no trouble at all. All very civilised and British, and a stark contrast to Tommy Robinsons mob of Neon Nazis.

I am quite looking forward to Saturday, have my flags and signs ready, and have invested in a new megaphone. Mrs Foxy wants to march with the Tiggers, so we shall.

The 100k was expectations management so the organisers could report an “unexpected” “surge” in numbers on the day.

These people are advised by the likes of Alastair Campbell, know what they are doing when it comes to spin and are very, very good at it.

It seems pointless to even estimate crowd numbers. Protestors always say it is one number, police estimates are then much much lower, stories are run on it being difficulty to estimate, and if someone is committed to the most or least impressive number it never persuades anyone else anyway. It was clearly a lot, beyond that no one will agree.

Jezza - left wing Donald trump

justin124 said:

Floater said:

justin124 said:

Floater said:

justin124 said:

rottenborough said:

Corbyn showing his narrow minded petulance I see.

Bodes really well for when he is PM.

Not entirely. I don't see that Chuka Umunna had any more entitlement to be at such a meeting than others such as Frank Field, Jared Omara - or indeed Fiona Onasanya.

Throwing his toys out of pram is such a good look at a time of national crisis eh?

Why should they be treated preferentially compared with other Independent MPs? They have no status as a political party.

I repeat the question

Had all the non alligned MPs been invited, he might have taken a different view. There are reports that the agreed terms of the meeting were not adhered to.

A pretty lame excuse for not at least hearing out what might have been said. What would it have costed to stick around for 10 minutes, and then afterward confirm it was a farce and May was indulging in trickery?

Corbyn is no fool (no laughter at the back), and he is no newbie to politics at the highest level anymore. Stomping out like that on such a pretext is very likely to have just been posturing, if he was even slightly concerned about being there he would have objected but stayed.

The DUP would probably approve though, they love posturing.

Casino_Royale said:

Foxy said:

RoyalBlue said:

Foxy said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

eek said:

Casino_Royale said:

IanB2 said:

Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

The counter is spinning happily.

Edit/ and the map of the signatures is interesting.

Why are we getting excited about 60,000 signatures on that?

I could see that easily it topping a million soon from those who hitherto supported a 2nd referendum.

70,000 now....

So what?

Unless the number gets huge I don't think it matters one iota, but it is fun watching you get exasperated by it. It is the People's Vote march all over again. I assume you are not going to challenge the numbers though on this are you?

I’m not exasperated I just think it’s irrelevant.

I certainly will challenge the numbers on the March if I think they’re called out incorrectly, which they almost certainly will be.

Remember: it was 270k marchers last time, not 700k.

Taking the bait eh. Only you thought it was 270K.

Yeah, @Casino_Royale wasn't there to count.

It was the second biggest political demonstration in British history, and the forecast looks good for Saturday to be a similar size.

If people want to advertise their self-regard and immaturity, that’s fine. It’s tiresome that they block up the centre of the capital while doing so.

Freedom of peaceful and protest are fundamental parts of a working democracy.

I am quite looking forward to Saturday, have my flags and signs ready, and have invested in a new megaphone. Mrs Foxy wants to march with the Tiggers, so we shall.

The 100k was expectations management so the organisers could report an “unexpected” “surge” in numbers on the day.

These people are advised by the likes of Alastair Campbell, know what they are doing when it comes to spin and are very, very good at it.

No, it was genuinely unexpectedly much larger than the June event. Certainly the very light police presence and lack of preparation by London Transport showed that those organisations did not expect so many. Fortunately the supreme good humour of the crowd prevented problems.

You know 16 million voted Remain and that many are as passionate as you are for Leave. Wy are you so surprised that they want to publically express their views?

kle4 said:

Casino_Royale said:

Foxy said:

RoyalBlue said:

Foxy said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

eek said:

Casino_Royale said:

IanB2 said:

Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

The counter is spinning happily.

Edit/ and the map of the signatures is interesting.

Why are we getting excited about 60,000 signatures on that?

I could see that easily it topping a million soon from those who hitherto supported a 2nd referendum.

70,000 now....

So what?

Un

I’m not exasperated I just think it’s irrelevant.

I certainly will challenge the numbers on the March if I think they’re called out incorrectly, which they almost certainly will be.

Remember: it was 270k marchers last time, not 700k.

Taking the bait eh. Only you thought it was 270K.

Yeah, @Casino_Royale wasn't there to count.

It was the second biggest political demonstration in British history, and the forecast looks good for Saturday to be a similar size.

If people want to advertise their self-regard and immaturity, that’s fine. It’s tiresome that they block up the centre of the capital while doing so.

Freedom of peaceful and protest are fundamental parts of a working democracy.



I am quite looking forward to Saturday, have my flags and signs ready, and have invested in a new megaphone. Mrs Foxy wants to march with the Tiggers, so we shall.

The 100k was expectations management so the organisers could report an “unexpected” “surge” in numbers on the day.

These people are advised by the likes of Alastair Campbell, know what they are doing when it comes to spin and are very, very good at it.

It seems pointless to even estimate crowd numbers. Protestors always say it is one number, police estimates are then much much lower, stories are run on it being difficulty to estimate, and if someone is committed to the most or least impressive number it never persuades anyone else anyway. It was clearly a lot, beyond that no one will agree.

But the police didn’t do their job that time.

So it’s up to us to challenge the propaganda.

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8177e873840043c0ecaeb1a3f5cb738ef2b95c36d51de6fc2614a66060d0906d.jpg

hope that works

Foxy said:

Casino_Royale said:

Foxy said:

RoyalBlue said:

Foxy said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

kjh said:

Casino_Royale said:

eek said:

Casino_Royale said:

IanB2 said:

Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

The counter is spinning happily.

Edit/ and the map of the signatures is interesting.

Why are we getting excited about 60,000 signatures on that?

I could see that easily it topping a million soon from those who hitherto supported a 2nd referendum.

70,000 now....

So what?

Unless the number gets huge I don't think it matters one iota, but it is fun watching you get exasperated by it. It is the People's Vote march all over again. I assume you are not going to challenge the numbers though on this are you?

I’m not exasperated I just think it’s irrelevant.

I certainly will challenge the numbers on the March if I think they’re called out incorrectly, which they almost certainly will be.

Remember: it was 270k marchers last time, not 700k.

Taking the bait eh. Only you thought it was 270K.

Yeah, @Casino_Royale wasn't there to count.

It was the second biggest political demonstration in British history, and the forecast looks good for Saturday to be a similar size.

If people want to advertise their self-regard and immaturity, that’s fine. It’s tiresome that they block up the centre of the capital while doing so.

Freedom of peaceful and protest are fundamental parts of a working democracy.

I am quite looking forward to Saturday, have my flags and signs ready, and have invested in a new megaphone. Mrs Foxy wants to march with the Tiggers, so we shall.

The 100k was expectations management so the organisers could report an “unexpected” “surge” in numbers on the day.

These people are advised by the likes of Alastair Campbell, know what they are doing when it comes to spin and are very, very good at it.

No, it was genuinely unexpectedly much larger than the June event. Certainly the very light police presence and lack of preparation by London Transport showed that those organisations did not expect so many. Fortunately the supreme good humour of the crowd prevented problems.

You know 16 million voted Remain and that many are as passionate as you are for Leave. Wy are you so surprised that they want to publically express their views?

Your naivety is almost touching.

Your confirmation bias far less so.

RoyalBlue said:

stodge said:

RoyalBlue said:

If people want to advertise their self-regard and immaturity, that’s fine. It’s tiresome that they block up the centre of the capital while doing so.

Do you think those who marched against the Iraq War and those who marched in favour of the Countryside (including a considerable number of Conservatives) were advertising their self regard and immaturity?

No, because those took place before any decision had been made in Parliament. The nation has voted to leave, in a referendum promised in the winning party’s manifesto, prior to which it was made clear that the decision would be implemented either way. Protesting the implementation of that decision is protesting democracy.

That’s probably the silliest thing I have ever read on here. There are plenty of protests against settled policy contained in manifestos or referendums. Given that most people in Northern Ireland vote to stay in the union are republican demonstrations inherently undemocratic? Independence protests in Scotland or Quebec? Or anti-EEC demonstrations after the 1975 referendum? Or protests against the Poll Tax? I could go on. Protests are partly there to highlight causes and change views. They are asking for another vote on Saturday. It’s pushing the bounds of credulity to cal that “protrsting democracy”.

FrancisUrquhart said:

Jezza - left wing Donald trump

Dunno, beginning to think Trump is the brighter one.

rottenborough said:

Floater said:

rottenborough said:

dyedwoolie said:

justin124 said:

Floater said:

justin124 said:

rottenborough said:

Corbyn showing his narrow minded petulance I see.

Bodes really well for when he is PM.

Not entirely. I don't see that Chuka Umunna had any more entitlement to be at such a meeting than others such as Frank Field, Jared Omara - or indeed Fiona Onasanya.

Throwing his toys out of pram is such a good look at a time of national crisis eh?

Why should they be treated preferentially compared with other Independent MPs? They have no status as a political party.

Perhaps attending and participating in the meeting and then expressing displeasure at tiggers invite might have been more a reasonable response given the circumstances?
Plus TIG are clearly in discussion with the EC to become a party and gave confirmed they will be one. Corbyn is playing games

https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1108454309744791559

So ... about that Corbyn will talk to anyone crap.............

Anyone who is an enemy of the US, yes. Otherwise, no.

I really hope tomorrow's headlines say "Corbyn refuses to meet May at moment of national crisis"

She should juggle some semtex, hed be there like a shot

DougSeal said:

RoyalBlue said:

stodge said:

RoyalBlue said:

If people want to advertise their self-regard and immaturity, that’s fine. It’s tiresome that they block up the centre of the capital while doing so.

Do you think those who marched against the Iraq War and those who marched in favour of the Countryside (including a considerable number of Conservatives) were advertising their self regard and immaturity?

No, because those took place before any decision had been made in Parliament. The nation has voted to leave, in a referendum promised in the winning party’s manifesto, prior to which it was made clear that the decision would be implemented either way. Protesting the implementation of that decision is protesting democracy.

That’s probably the silliest thing I have ever read on here. There are plenty of protests against settled policy contained in manifestos or referendums. Given that most people in Northern Ireland vote to stay in the union are republican demonstrations inherently undemocratic? Independence protests in Scotland or Quebec? Or anti-EEC demonstrations after the 1975 referendum? Or protests against the Poll Tax? I could go on. Protests are partly there to highlight causes and change views. They are asking for another vote on Saturday. It’s pushing the bounds of credulity to cal that “protrsting democracy”.

Indeed. I thought the batshit might be reducing as we get closer to MayDay, but perhaps not.

rottenborough said:

Bye, bye Tory councillors:

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1108453417469599744

Only 35% blame 'the government' - so labour etc voters. They'll take a hit but not exclusively

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Sandpit said:

Just got back from pub. Are we getting the PM on telly tonight?

8.15

Ooh, any book running on what she’ll say?

1. It’s Her Deal or No Deal?
2. It’s Her Deal or we remain?
3. Nothing has changed?
4. Election to be called?
5. She’s resigning?
6. Something else.

https://twitter.com/shippersunbound/status/1108457455317594112?s=21

JosiasJessop said:

So we now know that Corbyn is willing to call murderers and terrorists his friends, but refuses to be in a meeting with someone who served Labour faithfully for years ...

God he’s a Class A idiot.

JosiasJessop said:

So we now know that Corbyn is willing to call murderers and terrorists his friends, but refuses to be in a meeting with someone who served Labour faithfully for years ...

Maybe he got word his jam was boiling over? Or that he has done his 8hr shift for the day already?

In other news have just won a Gold and Silver award for our products here at the Free From Food Awards. No longer care about Brexit. Getting slammed. On the free bar #drinktoforgetbrexit

JosiasJessop said:

So we now know that Corbyn is willing to call murderers and terrorists his friends, but refuses to be in a meeting with someone who served Labour faithfully for years ...

Yep - nailed it

justin124 said:

Floater said:

justin124 said:

Floater said:

justin124 said:

Floater said:

justin124 said:

rottenborough said:

Corbyn showing his narrow minded petulance I see.

Bodes really well for when he is PM.

Not entirely. I don't see that Chuka Umunna had any more entitlement to be at such a meeting than others such as Frank Field, Jared Omara - or indeed Fiona Onasanya.

Throwing his toys out of pram is such a good look at a time of national crisis eh?

Why should they be treated preferentially compared with other Independent MPs? They have no status as a political party.

I repeat the question

Had all the non alligned MPs been invited, he might have taken a different view. There are reports that the agreed terms of the meeting were not adhered to.

So all you have is excuses

I am not a Corbyn fan anyway - but can see his point of view on this. If Caroline Lucas was there as the sole Green MP , every Independent ought to have been included.

You need to understamd how the public view his childish behaviour. Not fit for office

We need the equivalent of the US 25th amendment - removal of PM due to inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the Office - with the office devolving on the deputy PM. Needs a two-thirds majority of the House.