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There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?Benpointer said:According to the Guardian blog:
"May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."
How does he do that when she won't hold the vote?0 -
Or, better yet, remain.Richard_Nabavi said:Can't really argue with the PM:
May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal.0 -
If you seriously believe that will happen it's time you had a break.grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
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She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.RobD said:
There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?Benpointer said:According to the Guardian blog:
"May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."
How does he do that when she won't hold the vote?0 -
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
Yes, that would also work. What won't work is what he's claiming is Labour policy.grabcocque said:
Or, better yet, remain.Richard_Nabavi said:Can't really argue with the PM:
May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal.0 -
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
TIL Labour have a brexit policy.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, that would also work. What won't work is what he's claiming is Labour policy.grabcocque said:
Or, better yet, remain.Richard_Nabavi said:Can't really argue with the PM:
May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal.0 -
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Splitting hairs at this point. If Labour had said they were going to support the motion it would have passed already.Benpointer said:
She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.RobD said:
There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?Benpointer said:According to the Guardian blog:
"May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."
How does he do that when she won't hold the vote?0 -
Did he tell her to calm down too?williamglenn said:#stupidwomangate
https://twitter.com/KayBurley/status/1075366680119922690
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Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
Or that there are any illegal immigrants in Spain from the UK?RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
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grabcocque said:
I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
We have 3.7 million Eu citizens in the UK. Every year we have a net addition of 100,000 Eu citizens to the uk.grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
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Not yet. But in the event of No Deal, they become illegal immigrants by default unless the EU member state agrees some mechanism for that not to happen.felix said:
Or that there are any illegal immigrants in Spain from the UK?RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.grabcocque said:
Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
Mr Meeks,
"This could be the boost to our ailing seaside towns' economies that they have so urgently been looking for.
And Skegness is so bracing."
If the government had prepared for the massive influx that cane to Lincolnshire after 2005, they might have won the referendum vote. But it was cheaper to call the locals 'racists', or deny it would happen.0 -
You mean all the Labour MPs that have made speeches against the deal would suddenly support/abstain it simply because Corbyn has told them toRobD said:
Splitting hairs at this point. If Labour had said they were going to support the motion it would have passed already.Benpointer said:
She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.RobD said:
There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?Benpointer said:According to the Guardian blog:
"May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."
How does he do that when she won't hold the vote?
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You seriously telling me you don't think that thought hasn't crossed the Spanish government's mind?felix said:
What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.grabcocque said:
Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
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Yes - because unlike you I know something about Spanish politics and the Spanish people.grabcocque said:
You seriously telling me you don't think that thought hasn't crossed the Spanish government's mind?felix said:
What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.grabcocque said:
Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
Like all right thinking people I hope this all explodes in May's big stupid grey face but I fear some permutation of her wretched deal will be fisted through the HoC when the dEUmsday (I invented that) clock is at 23:59.0
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If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.Scott_P said:0 -
Actually we have 62.9m EU citizens in the UK. Sadly, about 59.2m are in danger of having that citizenship stripped from them.notme2 said:grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
We have 3.7 million Eu citizens in the UK. Every year we have a net addition of 100,000 Eu citizens to the uk.grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
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It may have crossed their mind, but I doubt if it's a serious possibility. For one thing, they have plenty of their own citizens living here.grabcocque said:
You seriously telling me you don't think that thought hasn't crossed the Spanish government's mind?felix said:
What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.grabcocque said:
Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
Don’t feed the troll.felix said:
What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.grabcocque said:
Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
Enough wouldPulpstar said:
You mean all the Labour MPs that have made speeches against the deal would suddenly support/abstain it simply because Corbyn has told them toRobD said:
Splitting hairs at this point. If Labour had said they were going to support the motion it would have passed already.Benpointer said:
She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.RobD said:
There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?Benpointer said:According to the Guardian blog:
"May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."
How does he do that when she won't hold the vote? ?!0 -
If he were to announce today that Labour will vote for it, she'd bring it before the Christmas adjournment.Scott_P said:
He can't vote for it if she won't move the vote...Richard_Nabavi said:Can't really argue with the PM:
May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal.0 -
Isn't Labour's policy to have a second referendum if their renegotiation fails? Works a lot better than May's 3 step plan of:Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, that would also work. What won't work is what he's claiming is Labour policy.grabcocque said:
Or, better yet, remain.Richard_Nabavi said:Can't really argue with the PM:
May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal.
1. Pointlessly delay
2. Lose a vote
3. ???????0 -
All these ex-pat pensioners no doubt have extensive fruit-picking experience from their youth. I can see only plusses from a mass return from the Costa del Crime.CD13 said:Mr Meeks,
"This could be the boost to our ailing seaside towns' economies that they have so urgently been looking for.
And Skegness is so bracing."
If the government had prepared for the massive influx that cane to Lincolnshire after 2005, they might have won the referendum vote. But it was cheaper to call the locals 'racists', or deny it would happen.0 -
Why is calling somebody a "stupid woman" sexist?AlastairMeeks said:
If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.Scott_P said:0 -
With flagrant disloyalty eminating alternately from both the ERG and wets in the Tories depending on No 10s apparent position at the time, Corbyn's job is being made extremely easy.Benpointer said:
Enough wouldPulpstar said:
You mean all the Labour MPs that have made speeches against the deal would suddenly support/abstain it simply because Corbyn has told them toRobD said:
Splitting hairs at this point. If Labour had said they were going to support the motion it would have passed already.Benpointer said:
She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.RobD said:
There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?Benpointer said:According to the Guardian blog:
"May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."
How does he do that when she won't hold the vote? ?!0 -
True enoughPulpstar said:
With flagrant disloyalty eminating alternately from both the ERG and wets in the Tories depending on No 10s apparent position at the time, Corbyn's job is being made extremely easy.Benpointer said:
Enough wouldPulpstar said:
You mean all the Labour MPs that have made speeches against the deal would suddenly support/abstain it simply because Corbyn has told them toRobD said:
Splitting hairs at this point. If Labour had said they were going to support the motion it would have passed already.Benpointer said:
She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.RobD said:
There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?Benpointer said:According to the Guardian blog:
"May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."
How does he do that when she won't hold the vote? ?!0 -
Don't fuck up Brexit then we wouldn't be having this conversation.RoyalBlue said:
Don’t feed the troll.felix said:
What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.grabcocque said:
Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
Isn't politics amazing.Pulpstar said:
You mean all the Labour MPs that have made speeches against the deal would suddenly support/abstain it simply because Corbyn has told them toRobD said:
Splitting hairs at this point. If Labour had said they were going to support the motion it would have passed already.Benpointer said:
She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.RobD said:
There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?Benpointer said:According to the Guardian blog:
"May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."
How does he do that when she won't hold the vote? ?!0 -
Re the question to TM on early recall of Parliament are we expecting this to come from labour today0
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I expect you could put the referendum result squarely at Tony Blair's door, He wanted to rub the 'Rights' nose in it without realising many of his traditional voters were in that category.
Still, he might consider that swapping them for posh Londoners was a good deal.
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Sean_F said:
It may have crossed their mind, but I doubt if it's a serious possibility. For one thing, they have plenty of their own citizens living here.</blockquotegrabcocque said:
You seriously telling me you don't think that thought hasn't crossed the Spanish government's mind?felix said:
What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.grabcocque said:
Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
And the economies of parts of the Costas would collapse without Brit pensioners0 -
https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168
What are we expecting?
Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!0 -
Do you think he should have said "stupid person"?AlastairMeeks said:
If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.Scott_P said:
But maybe the transcriber got it wrong and what he really said was "stupid womon"?
Calling a woman a stupid woman is no more sexist than calling a man a stupid man.0 -
Honestly, I don't think thats the case.AlastairMeeks said:
If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.Scott_P said:
Such discourtesy reaches a non political demographic in a way that wreath laying never will.0 -
Early recall of Parliament ??Benpointer said:https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168
What are we expecting?
Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!0 -
Benpointer said:
Why is calling somebody a "stupid woman" sexist?AlastairMeeks said:
If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.Scott_P said:
Lesson of the day. It’s only wrong when the other side do it.
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What a pity Jeremy Corbyn didn't call her a filthy piece of rancid rectum.0
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This seems to have been the general view on past occasions:Benpointer said:
Why is calling somebody a "stupid woman" sexist?AlastairMeeks said:
If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.Scott_P said:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/philip-hammond-caught-up-sexism-12953514
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/07/10/stupid-woman-hague-under-fire-for-sexist-pmqs-jibe
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Racist trolling is now part of politicalbetting.RoyalBlue said:
Don’t feed the troll.felix said:
What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.grabcocque said:
Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
You disgust megrabcocque said:What a pity Jeremy Corbyn didn't call her a filthy piece of rancid rectum.
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Can Labour recall Parliament?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Early recall of Parliament ??Benpointer said:https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168
What are we expecting?
Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!0 -
I mainly do it for your benefit, you know.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You disgust megrabcocque said:What a pity Jeremy Corbyn didn't call her a filthy piece of rancid rectum.
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Yeah, but are we sure it's a negative for that demographic? A perception of plain-speaking seems to be an asset for politicians at the moment.Mortimer said:
Honestly, I don't think thats the case.AlastairMeeks said:
If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.Scott_P said:
Such discourtesy reaches a non political demographic in a way that wreath laying never will.0 -
A Tory has defected?Benpointer said:https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168
What are we expecting?
Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!0 -
Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.notme2 said:
Racist trolling is now part of politicalbetting.RoyalBlue said:
Don’t feed the troll.felix said:
What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.grabcocque said:
Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
No idea to be honestrottenborough said:
Can Labour recall Parliament?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Early recall of Parliament ??Benpointer said:https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168
What are we expecting?
Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!0 -
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No. Only the Speaker can recall the Commons, and he can only do it when requested by the Government.rottenborough said:
Can Labour recall Parliament?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Early recall of Parliament ??Benpointer said:https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168
What are we expecting?
Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!0 -
Something I am very much looking forward to. I never asked for or wanted it in the first place.Benpointer said:
Actually we have 62.9m EU citizens in the UK. Sadly, about 59.2m are in danger of having that citizenship stripped from them.notme2 said:grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
We have 3.7 million Eu citizens in the UK. Every year we have a net addition of 100,000 Eu citizens to the uk.grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
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How Andrew Sparrow on the Guardian is reporting this:AlastairMeeks said:
This seems to have been the general view on past occasions:Benpointer said:
Why is calling somebody a "stupid woman" sexist?AlastairMeeks said:
If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.Scott_P said:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/philip-hammond-caught-up-sexism-12953514
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/07/10/stupid-woman-hague-under-fire-for-sexist-pmqs-jibe
As is often the way, media attention is now focusing not on what was said during the exchangs but on whether or not Jeremy Corbyn called Theresa May a “stupid woman” during PMQs in the chamber.
And the Guardian has never contributed to this sort of frenzy in the past.0 -
It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.grabcocque said:
Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.notme2 said:
Racist trolling is now part of politicalbetting.RoyalBlue said:
Don’t feed the troll.felix said:
What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.grabcocque said:
Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
After the crap David Cameron had to deal with over 'Calm down dear'
I am loving this
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I'd put some money on Sarah W as next LibDem leader, if only I could.0
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Gammon is specific to white people. You apply s physiological characteristic that is not present in any other race, and use that characteristic to assign a set of political values you then humiliate and denigrate based on that.grabcocque said:
Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.notme2 said:
Racist trolling is now part of politicalbetting.RoyalBlue said:
Don’t feed the troll.felix said:
What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.grabcocque said:
Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
That pretty much open and shut case of racism. It’s just a more acceptable form of racism because you assume white older people are fair game.0 -
I wish, instead it's going to be a rehashing of the status quo of something.rottenborough said:
A Tory has defected?Benpointer said:https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168
What are we expecting?
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That's the best thing about "gammon" as an insult: how touchy gammons get about it.Sean_F said:
It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.grabcocque said:
Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.
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Does it matter? Labour have always treated Tories differently when it comes to such abuse. This is a very mild example compared to some of the stuff they do and say.TheScreamingEagles said:After the crap David Cameron had to deal with over 'Calm down dear'
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I'd have completely forgotten about the term "gammon" by now if it didn't get right-wingers so bizarrely outraged.Sean_F said:
It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.grabcocque said:
Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.notme2 said:
Racist trolling is now part of politicalbetting.RoyalBlue said:
Don’t feed the troll.felix said:
What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.grabcocque said:
Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.RobD said:
Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?grabcocque said:
The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.RobD said:
Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.0 -
It's playing the man not the ball. People who use it automatically dismiss an argument because it's made by a middle aged white Conservative.grabcocque said:
That's the best thing about "gammon" as an insult: how touchy gammons get about it.Sean_F said:
It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.grabcocque said:
Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.0 -
Mr Meeks,
"All these ex-pat pensioners no doubt have extensive fruit-picking experience from their youth. I can see only plusses from a mass return from the Costa del Crime."
It's predominantly vegetable-picking experience needed. Don't confuse it with Dick-van-Dyke cockneys going apple-picking in sunny conditions. You should know better, we had some Norfolk people in the gang-vans. The extra finger gave them an advantage when it was done by hand.0 -
Yeah, but those are Tories.AlastairMeeks said:
This seems to have been the general view on past occasions:Benpointer said:
Why is calling somebody a "stupid woman" sexist?AlastairMeeks said:
If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.Scott_P said:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/philip-hammond-caught-up-sexism-12953514
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/07/10/stupid-woman-hague-under-fire-for-sexist-pmqs-jibe0 -
Oh yeah? What argument was grabcocque dismissing when he used it upthread?Sean_F said:
It's playing the man not the ball. People who use it automatically dismiss an argument because it's made by a middle aged white Conservative.grabcocque said:
That's the best thing about "gammon" as an insult: how touchy gammons get about it.Sean_F said:
It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.grabcocque said:
Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.0 -
Still, at least Corbyn has stopped people talking about the VONC debacle and Labour's Brexit position.0
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It's not inherently sexist but it can be depending on the context e.g. "she's just a stupid woman", where the speaker seeks to build on a stereotype of women as incapable.Benpointer said:
Why is calling somebody a "stupid woman" sexist?AlastairMeeks said:
If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.Scott_P said:
In this case, I don't think he was being sexist but it'd be an easy enough accusation to make, using the far left's hypersensitivity on identity questions as a bar.0 -
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No, but they can call for it to be recalled (or not prorogued).Big_G_NorthWales said:
No idea to be honestrottenborough said:
Can Labour recall Parliament?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Early recall of Parliament ??Benpointer said:https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168
What are we expecting?
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Bercow is an utter disgrace0
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Not a comfortable question for the Speaker either.Scott_P said:0 -
More faux outrage ! I hope Corbyn stands by his comments.0
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Bercow's authority being shredded by Tory MPs.0
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Bercow is losing the conservatives0
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Do you think that concerns him?Big_G_NorthWales said:Bercow is losing the conservatives
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I think that's unfair. JC is a huge 'Allo 'Allo! fan, and in moments of quiet contemplation will often quote René to himself.TheScreamingEagles said:After the crap David Cameron had to deal with over 'Calm down dear'
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Thats the thing about racism, it really winds those people up you are insulting.grabcocque said:
That's the best thing about "gammon" as an insult: how touchy gammons get about it.Sean_F said:
It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.grabcocque said:
Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.0 -
Andrea Leadsom absolutely destroys Bercow there.0
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Here's a picture of me playing a tiny violin for those poor, hard-done-by old white racists.notme2 said:
That pretty much open and shut case of racism. It’s just a more acceptable form of racism because you assume white older people are fair game.
Poor things. Must be hard for them.
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Anna Soubry also piling on.
One thing that unites Tories is that they think Bercow is a bell end.0 -
Best PMQs of the year.0
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Bercow will be lucky to see the day outTheScreamingEagles said:Andrea Leadsom absolutely destroys Bercow there.
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Gammon is like the N word - it says more about the person saying it than shocks as an insult.grabcocque said:
That's the best thing about "gammon" as an insult: how touchy gammons get about it.Sean_F said:
It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.grabcocque said:
Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.0 -
Minus about 7 million British citizens entitled to Irish passports who haven't already got one. So Arlene Foster for example will be all right, as will Tony Blair.Benpointer said:
Actually we have 62.9m EU citizens in the UK. Sadly, about 59.2m are in danger of having that citizenship stripped from them.notme2 said:grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
We have 3.7 million Eu citizens in the UK. Every year we have a net addition of 100,000 Eu citizens to the uk.grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
But you're right. Most of us are being stripped of our EU citizenship because millions of xenophobic Sun readers have globbed on to the EU membership issue because that's the path of least resistance.0 -
To be fair, if you looked up "stupid woman" in a dictionary, there's a good chance it would have a picture of Andrea Leadsom.0
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7 million O_O !?Oort said:
Minus about 7 million British citizens entitled to Irish passports who haven't already got one. So Arlene Foster for example will be all right, as will Tony Blair.Benpointer said:
Actually we have 62.9m EU citizens in the UK. Sadly, about 59.2m are in danger of having that citizenship stripped from them.notme2 said:grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
We have 3.7 million Eu citizens in the UK. Every year we have a net addition of 100,000 Eu citizens to the uk.grabcocque said:I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.
But you're right. Most of us are being stripped of our EU citizenship because millions of xenophobic Sun readers have globbed on to the EU membership issue because that's the path of least resistance.0 -
Bercow and Corbyn fouling up at PMQs just in time for news on TV and radio.
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Isn't Corbyn such a polite old-fashioned gentleman that he calls terrorist sympathisers and anti-semites "friends" out of simple courtesy?TheScreamingEagles said:After the crap David Cameron had to deal with over 'Calm down dear'
I am loving this
https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1075371683618406402
We all knew that Cameron was an arrogant twit, and "calm down dear" only confirmed that, but Corbyn has now contradicted his established persona of affable reasonableness. Oh dear.0 -
I've not seen all the detail yet of the EU's "temporary contingency arrangements" in the event of no-deal, but is it possible that the sensible measures the EU and UK will inevitably put in place to prevent mutual harm will actually look more attractive than Theresa's awful withdrawal deal?
At a first glance summary, I begin to wonder....0 -
What a bunch of utter tossers, pantomime lines and political games when we have some quite important real issues to attend to.
Oh and Bercow is an utter punt and can go away.
If they're going to play games can they at least remove Bercow asap.0
