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  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936

    According to the Guardian blog:

    "May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."

    How does he do that when she won't hold the vote?

    There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234

    Can't really argue with the PM:

    May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal.

    Or, better yet, remain.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,164

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    If you seriously believe that will happen it's time you had a break.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,705
    RobD said:

    According to the Guardian blog:

    "May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."

    How does he do that when she won't hold the vote?

    There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?
    She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
  • Can't really argue with the PM:

    May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal.

    Or, better yet, remain.
    Yes, that would also work. What won't work is what he's claiming is Labour policy.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234

    Can't really argue with the PM:

    May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal.

    Or, better yet, remain.
    Yes, that would also work. What won't work is what he's claiming is Labour policy.
    TIL Labour have a brexit policy.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936

    RobD said:

    According to the Guardian blog:

    "May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."

    How does he do that when she won't hold the vote?

    There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?
    She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.
    Splitting hairs at this point. If Labour had said they were going to support the motion it would have passed already.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    Did he tell her to calm down too? :smiley:
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,164
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Or that there are any illegal immigrants in Spain from the UK?
  • notme2notme2 Posts: 1,006

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    We have 3.7 million Eu citizens in the UK. Every year we have a net addition of 100,000 Eu citizens to the uk.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    felix said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Or that there are any illegal immigrants in Spain from the UK?
    Not yet. But in the event of No Deal, they become illegal immigrants by default unless the EU member state agrees some mechanism for that not to happen.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,164

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
    What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,366
    Mr Meeks,

    "This could be the boost to our ailing seaside towns' economies that they have so urgently been looking for.

    And Skegness is so bracing."

    If the government had prepared for the massive influx that cane to Lincolnshire after 2005, they might have won the referendum vote. But it was cheaper to call the locals 'racists', or deny it would happen.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    According to the Guardian blog:

    "May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."

    How does he do that when she won't hold the vote?

    There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?
    She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.
    Splitting hairs at this point. If Labour had said they were going to support the motion it would have passed already.
    You mean all the Labour MPs that have made speeches against the deal would suddenly support/abstain it simply because Corbyn has told them to :o ?!
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    felix said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
    What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.
    You seriously telling me you don't think that thought hasn't crossed the Spanish government's mind?
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,164

    felix said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
    What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.
    You seriously telling me you don't think that thought hasn't crossed the Spanish government's mind?
    Yes - because unlike you I know something about Spanish politics and the Spanish people.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677
    Like all right thinking people I hope this all explodes in May's big stupid grey face but I fear some permutation of her wretched deal will be fisted through the HoC when the dEUmsday (I invented that) clock is at 23:59.
  • Scott_P said:
    If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,705
    notme2 said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    We have 3.7 million Eu citizens in the UK. Every year we have a net addition of 100,000 Eu citizens to the uk.
    Actually we have 62.9m EU citizens in the UK. Sadly, about 59.2m are in danger of having that citizenship stripped from them.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,389

    felix said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
    What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.
    You seriously telling me you don't think that thought hasn't crossed the Spanish government's mind?
    It may have crossed their mind, but I doubt if it's a serious possibility. For one thing, they have plenty of their own citizens living here.
  • RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    felix said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
    What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.
    Don’t feed the troll.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,705
    Pulpstar said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    According to the Guardian blog:

    "May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."

    How does he do that when she won't hold the vote?

    There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?
    She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.
    Splitting hairs at this point. If Labour had said they were going to support the motion it would have passed already.
    You mean all the Labour MPs that have made speeches against the deal would suddenly support/abstain it simply because Corbyn has told them to :o ?!
    Enough would
  • Donny43Donny43 Posts: 634
    Scott_P said:

    Can't really argue with the PM:

    May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal.

    He can't vote for it if she won't move the vote...
    If he were to announce today that Labour will vote for it, she'd bring it before the Christmas adjournment.
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092

    Can't really argue with the PM:

    May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal.

    Or, better yet, remain.
    Yes, that would also work. What won't work is what he's claiming is Labour policy.
    Isn't Labour's policy to have a second referendum if their renegotiation fails? Works a lot better than May's 3 step plan of:

    1. Pointlessly delay
    2. Lose a vote
    3. ???????
  • CD13 said:

    Mr Meeks,

    "This could be the boost to our ailing seaside towns' economies that they have so urgently been looking for.

    And Skegness is so bracing."

    If the government had prepared for the massive influx that cane to Lincolnshire after 2005, they might have won the referendum vote. But it was cheaper to call the locals 'racists', or deny it would happen.

    All these ex-pat pensioners no doubt have extensive fruit-picking experience from their youth. I can see only plusses from a mass return from the Costa del Crime.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,705

    Scott_P said:
    If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.
    Why is calling somebody a "stupid woman" sexist?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220

    Pulpstar said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    According to the Guardian blog:

    "May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."

    How does he do that when she won't hold the vote?

    There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?
    She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.
    Splitting hairs at this point. If Labour had said they were going to support the motion it would have passed already.
    You mean all the Labour MPs that have made speeches against the deal would suddenly support/abstain it simply because Corbyn has told them to :o ?!
    Enough would
    With flagrant disloyalty eminating alternately from both the ERG and wets in the Tories depending on No 10s apparent position at the time, Corbyn's job is being made extremely easy.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,705
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    According to the Guardian blog:

    "May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."

    How does he do that when she won't hold the vote?

    There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?
    She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.
    Splitting hairs at this point. If Labour had said they were going to support the motion it would have passed already.
    You mean all the Labour MPs that have made speeches against the deal would suddenly support/abstain it simply because Corbyn has told them to :o ?!
    Enough would
    With flagrant disloyalty eminating alternately from both the ERG and wets in the Tories depending on No 10s apparent position at the time, Corbyn's job is being made extremely easy.
    True enough
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    RoyalBlue said:

    felix said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
    What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.
    Don’t feed the troll.
    Don't fuck up Brexit then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
  • Donny43Donny43 Posts: 634
    Pulpstar said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    According to the Guardian blog:

    "May says, if Corbyn does not want to see money spent on no-deal, he should vote for this deal."

    How does he do that when she won't hold the vote?

    There's some ambiguity regarding where Labour stand on May's deal?
    She can't accuse him of not voting for something she hasn't put to a vote.
    Splitting hairs at this point. If Labour had said they were going to support the motion it would have passed already.
    You mean all the Labour MPs that have made speeches against the deal would suddenly support/abstain it simply because Corbyn has told them to :o ?!
    Isn't politics amazing.
  • Re the question to TM on early recall of Parliament are we expecting this to come from labour today
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,366
    I expect you could put the referendum result squarely at Tony Blair's door, He wanted to rub the 'Rights' nose in it without realising many of his traditional voters were in that category.

    Still, he might consider that swapping them for posh Londoners was a good deal.
  • pbr2013pbr2013 Posts: 649
    Sean_F said:

    felix said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
    What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.
    You seriously telling me you don't think that thought hasn't crossed the Spanish government's mind?
    It may have crossed their mind, but I doubt if it's a serious possibility. For one thing, they have plenty of their own citizens living here.</blockquote

    And the economies of parts of the Costas would collapse without Brit pensioners
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,705
    edited December 2018
    https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168

    What are we expecting?

    Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!
  • OortOort Posts: 96

    Scott_P said:
    If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.
    Do you think he should have said "stupid person"?

    But maybe the transcriber got it wrong and what he really said was "stupid womon"?

    Calling a woman a stupid woman is no more sexist than calling a man a stupid man.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,127

    Scott_P said:
    If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.
    Honestly, I don't think thats the case.

    Such discourtesy reaches a non political demographic in a way that wreath laying never will.
  • https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168

    What are we expecting?

    Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!

    Early recall of Parliament ??
  • notme2notme2 Posts: 1,006

    Scott_P said:
    If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.
    Why is calling somebody a "stupid woman" sexist?

    Lesson of the day. It’s only wrong when the other side do it.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    What a pity Jeremy Corbyn didn't call her a filthy piece of rancid rectum.
  • Scott_P said:
    If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.
    Why is calling somebody a "stupid woman" sexist?
    This seems to have been the general view on past occasions:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/philip-hammond-caught-up-sexism-12953514

    http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/07/10/stupid-woman-hague-under-fire-for-sexist-pmqs-jibe

  • notme2notme2 Posts: 1,006
    RoyalBlue said:

    felix said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
    What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.
    Don’t feed the troll.
    Racist trolling is now part of politicalbetting.
  • What a pity Jeremy Corbyn didn't call her a filthy piece of rancid rectum.

    You disgust me
  • https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168

    What are we expecting?

    Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!

    Early recall of Parliament ??
    Can Labour recall Parliament?
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234

    What a pity Jeremy Corbyn didn't call her a filthy piece of rancid rectum.

    You disgust me
    I mainly do it for your benefit, you know.
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092
    Mortimer said:

    Scott_P said:
    If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.
    Honestly, I don't think thats the case.

    Such discourtesy reaches a non political demographic in a way that wreath laying never will.
    Yeah, but are we sure it's a negative for that demographic? A perception of plain-speaking seems to be an asset for politicians at the moment.
  • https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168

    What are we expecting?

    Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!

    A Tory has defected?
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    notme2 said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    felix said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
    What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.
    Don’t feed the troll.
    Racist trolling is now part of politicalbetting.
    Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.
  • https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168

    What are we expecting?

    Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!

    Early recall of Parliament ??
    Can Labour recall Parliament?
    No idea to be honest
  • OortOort Posts: 96

    https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168

    What are we expecting?

    Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!

    Early recall of Parliament ??
    Can Labour recall Parliament?
    No. Only the Speaker can recall the Commons, and he can only do it when requested by the Government.
  • notme2 said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    We have 3.7 million Eu citizens in the UK. Every year we have a net addition of 100,000 Eu citizens to the uk.
    Actually we have 62.9m EU citizens in the UK. Sadly, about 59.2m are in danger of having that citizenship stripped from them.
    Something I am very much looking forward to. I never asked for or wanted it in the first place.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176
    edited December 2018

    Scott_P said:
    If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.
    Why is calling somebody a "stupid woman" sexist?
    This seems to have been the general view on past occasions:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/philip-hammond-caught-up-sexism-12953514

    http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/07/10/stupid-woman-hague-under-fire-for-sexist-pmqs-jibe

    How Andrew Sparrow on the Guardian is reporting this:

    As is often the way, media attention is now focusing not on what was said during the exchangs but on whether or not Jeremy Corbyn called Theresa May a “stupid woman” during PMQs in the chamber.

    And the Guardian has never contributed to this sort of frenzy in the past.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,389

    notme2 said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    felix said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
    What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.
    Don’t feed the troll.
    Racist trolling is now part of politicalbetting.
    Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.
    It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.
  • After the crap David Cameron had to deal with over 'Calm down dear'

    I am loving this

    https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1075371683618406402
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,871
    I'd put some money on Sarah W as next LibDem leader, if only I could.
  • notme2notme2 Posts: 1,006

    notme2 said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    felix said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
    What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.
    Don’t feed the troll.
    Racist trolling is now part of politicalbetting.
    Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.
    Gammon is specific to white people. You apply s physiological characteristic that is not present in any other race, and use that characteristic to assign a set of political values you then humiliate and denigrate based on that.

    That pretty much open and shut case of racism. It’s just a more acceptable form of racism because you assume white older people are fair game.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264

    https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168

    What are we expecting?

    Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!

    A Tory has defected?
    I wish, instead it's going to be a rehashing of the status quo of something.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    Sean_F said:



    Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.

    It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.
    That's the best thing about "gammon" as an insult: how touchy gammons get about it.
  • glwglw Posts: 9,914

    After the crap David Cameron had to deal with over 'Calm down dear'

    I am loving this

    https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1075371683618406402

    Does it matter? Labour have always treated Tories differently when it comes to such abuse. This is a very mild example compared to some of the stuff they do and say.
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092
    Sean_F said:

    notme2 said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    felix said:

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    Any sign that Britons are going to be deported en masse from the continent?
    The EU has decided (probably because it's not within its competence, and the EU doesn't want to exceed its competences) that it doesn't have the authority to compel EU member states to admit immigrants from third countries.

    Thus it's entirely up to each EU member state if and how they wish to deport all their British illegal immigrants.
    Fair enough. Any evidence to suggest they will?
    Spain? I'm sure a deal could be done. Gibraltar in exchange for not deporting 100,000 Brexit-horny gammon pensioners.
    What an unpleasant and nasty piece of work you are.
    Don’t feed the troll.
    Racist trolling is now part of politicalbetting.
    Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.
    It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.
    I'd have completely forgotten about the term "gammon" by now if it didn't get right-wingers so bizarrely outraged.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,389

    Sean_F said:



    Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.

    It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.
    That's the best thing about "gammon" as an insult: how touchy gammons get about it.
    It's playing the man not the ball. People who use it automatically dismiss an argument because it's made by a middle aged white Conservative.
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,366
    edited December 2018
    Mr Meeks,

    "All these ex-pat pensioners no doubt have extensive fruit-picking experience from their youth. I can see only plusses from a mass return from the Costa del Crime."

    It's predominantly vegetable-picking experience needed. Don't confuse it with Dick-van-Dyke cockneys going apple-picking in sunny conditions. You should know better, we had some Norfolk people in the gang-vans. The extra finger gave them an advantage when it was done by hand.
  • Donny43Donny43 Posts: 634

    Scott_P said:
    If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.
    Why is calling somebody a "stupid woman" sexist?
    This seems to have been the general view on past occasions:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/philip-hammond-caught-up-sexism-12953514

    http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/07/10/stupid-woman-hague-under-fire-for-sexist-pmqs-jibe

    Yeah, but those are Tories.
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092
    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:



    Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.

    It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.
    That's the best thing about "gammon" as an insult: how touchy gammons get about it.
    It's playing the man not the ball. People who use it automatically dismiss an argument because it's made by a middle aged white Conservative.
    Oh yeah? What argument was grabcocque dismissing when he used it upthread?
  • Donny43Donny43 Posts: 634
    Still, at least Corbyn has stopped people talking about the VONC debacle and Labour's Brexit position.
  • Scott_P said:
    If he can lay a wreath for dead terrorists, no one is going to care about on-the-record sexism.
    Why is calling somebody a "stupid woman" sexist?
    It's not inherently sexist but it can be depending on the context e.g. "she's just a stupid woman", where the speaker seeks to build on a stereotype of women as incapable.

    In this case, I don't think he was being sexist but it'd be an easy enough accusation to make, using the far left's hypersensitivity on identity questions as a bar.
  • https://twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/1075362887156359168

    What are we expecting?

    Come on - we've still got 20 mins to speculate!

    Early recall of Parliament ??
    Can Labour recall Parliament?
    No idea to be honest
    No, but they can call for it to be recalled (or not prorogued).
  • Bercow is an utter disgrace
  • Scott_P said:
    Not a comfortable question for the Speaker either.
  • Bercow's authority being shredded by Tory MPs.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    More faux outrage ! I hope Corbyn stands by his comments.
  • Bercow is losing the conservatives
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,389

    Bercow is losing the conservatives

    Do you think that concerns him?
  • After the crap David Cameron had to deal with over 'Calm down dear'

    I am loving this

    https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1075371683618406402

    I think that's unfair. JC is a huge 'Allo 'Allo! fan, and in moments of quiet contemplation will often quote René to himself.
  • notme2notme2 Posts: 1,006

    Sean_F said:



    Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.

    It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.
    That's the best thing about "gammon" as an insult: how touchy gammons get about it.
    Thats the thing about racism, it really winds those people up you are insulting.
  • Andrea Leadsom absolutely destroys Bercow there.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    edited December 2018
    notme2 said:


    That pretty much open and shut case of racism. It’s just a more acceptable form of racism because you assume white older people are fair game.

    Here's a picture of me playing a tiny violin for those poor, hard-done-by old white racists.

    image

    Poor things. Must be hard for them.
  • Anna Soubry also piling on.

    One thing that unites Tories is that they think Bercow is a bell end.
  • BigIanBigIan Posts: 198
    Best PMQs of the year.
  • Andrea Leadsom absolutely destroys Bercow there.

    Bercow will be lucky to see the day out
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Sean_F said:



    Friendly reminder: gammons are not a race, and being a puce-hued shouty racist isn't a protected characteristic.

    It is however a silly insult on the part of some left wingers.
    That's the best thing about "gammon" as an insult: how touchy gammons get about it.
    Gammon is like the N word - it says more about the person saying it than shocks as an insult.
  • OortOort Posts: 96

    notme2 said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    We have 3.7 million Eu citizens in the UK. Every year we have a net addition of 100,000 Eu citizens to the uk.
    Actually we have 62.9m EU citizens in the UK. Sadly, about 59.2m are in danger of having that citizenship stripped from them.
    Minus about 7 million British citizens entitled to Irish passports who haven't already got one. So Arlene Foster for example will be all right, as will Tony Blair.

    But you're right. Most of us are being stripped of our EU citizenship because millions of xenophobic Sun readers have globbed on to the EU membership issue because that's the path of least resistance.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    To be fair, if you looked up "stupid woman" in a dictionary, there's a good chance it would have a picture of Andrea Leadsom.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    Oort said:

    notme2 said:

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    I hope Lincolnshire County Council has enough grit, gumption, plasterboard and UPVC double glazing to build 100,000 pensioner chalets in twelve weeks cos we're sure as shit not letting them all live in Remainia when Spain deports the diaspora Costa community.

    We have 3.7 million Eu citizens in the UK. Every year we have a net addition of 100,000 Eu citizens to the uk.
    Actually we have 62.9m EU citizens in the UK. Sadly, about 59.2m are in danger of having that citizenship stripped from them.
    Minus about 7 million British citizens entitled to Irish passports who haven't already got one. So Arlene Foster for example will be all right, as will Tony Blair.

    But you're right. Most of us are being stripped of our EU citizenship because millions of xenophobic Sun readers have globbed on to the EU membership issue because that's the path of least resistance.
    7 million O_O !?
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Bercow and Corbyn fouling up at PMQs just in time for news on TV and radio.
  • After the crap David Cameron had to deal with over 'Calm down dear'

    I am loving this

    https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1075371683618406402

    Isn't Corbyn such a polite old-fashioned gentleman that he calls terrorist sympathisers and anti-semites "friends" out of simple courtesy?

    We all knew that Cameron was an arrogant twit, and "calm down dear" only confirmed that, but Corbyn has now contradicted his established persona of affable reasonableness. Oh dear.
  • Bob__SykesBob__Sykes Posts: 1,179
    I've not seen all the detail yet of the EU's "temporary contingency arrangements" in the event of no-deal, but is it possible that the sensible measures the EU and UK will inevitably put in place to prevent mutual harm will actually look more attractive than Theresa's awful withdrawal deal?

    At a first glance summary, I begin to wonder....
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    What a bunch of utter tossers, pantomime lines and political games when we have some quite important real issues to attend to.

    Oh and Bercow is an utter punt and can go away.

    If they're going to play games can they at least remove Bercow asap.
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