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Be very clear about the addendum, it says very clearly, that no further clarifications or commitments will be entered into. There is no "coming weeks". There is Thursday and that is all.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The third paragraph makes my pointPhilip_Thompson said:
"The DUP wants a sensible deal which our MPs can support in the House. Over the coming weeks, we will continue to work towards that.0 -
The real tragedy is that the Apprentice interviews have been delayed for the news. I would have liked to have seen a mashup between the two, perhaps Claude eviscerating May and Corbyn in an interview?0
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Not sure whether the spread betting figures on the No Confidence Vote have been reported here but a few minutes ago when Sporting suspended its market, its spread on Tory MPs voting No Confidence in May was 108 - 115. At the mid-spread level, this therefore represented almost exactly a 35% vote of MPs wishing to see her removed. Doubtless she would survive with such a result. That said a slightly less favourable 60% - 40% vote vote in her favour would be somewhat trickier for her.0
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I rarely watch tv, but I hear they make Katie Hopkins era look like a golden age.oxfordsimon said:
With the woeful quality of the candidates, cancelling it is a blessing. We don't need to see them on screen ever again.FrancisUrquhart said:The Apprentice episode might be cancelled...that be sure to piss a lot of people off.
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Very well said.Black_Rook said:
Since the consensus is that she's going to win with room to spare, I'm going to predict that they vote her out.kle4 said:The alternative being? It's not rocket science, if they keep her on she is highly likely to lead them in the next election if it happens ahead of schedule (which seems very likely) because there'd be no way to get a new leader in place.
She's a weak leader of an incompetent Government. They saddle themselves with her now and they're stuck with her in the event of a snap election, which has to be factored in as a distinct possibility. Especially given the extreme tension between her stubborn commitment to her EU deal and her relationship with the DUP, and also the non-negligible possibility that some of the hotter sort of Brexiteers might resign from the party and help no confidence the Government if she tries to do an even softer deal that is not to their liking.
There's doubtless no shortage of MPs (for which, read virtually all of them) who think they could do a better job, and amongst those with no realistic leadership ambitions there could still be thoughts of propelling a favoured candidate into position, and of their own survival in the event of another election taking place. True, some MPs may also be worried that they'll end up with someone even worse, but the Parliamentary Conservative Party has the power to filter candidates before they go off to the membership, and the ERG on its own doesn't have anywhere close to the number of votes needed to guarantee a candidate makes the run-off. One would therefore assume that the Tory Corbyn Prevention Mechanism will do its job, and there is no realistic prospect of someone like JRM or Boris getting through.
The main impulse staying the hands of many MPs will presumably be the fear that the eventual winner of the contest might end up having to countenance No Deal to secure the backing of party members. However, if they aren't prepared to break with their party and form a compact with Opposition MPs to avert Brexit, and they can't or won't back either the Deal or Remain because of their aforementioned difficulties with the DUP and their own Brexit ultras (not to mention the 2017 manifesto,) then they are frankly better off with at least having some direction - any direction - to go in as a single unit, even if they think it is the wrong one, than to go on being rudderless and drifting. Because having a lemon sat uselessly in Downing St whilst the clock runs down would just lead them to No Deal by default anyway.
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I know, I know. She's probably going to pick up about 250 endorsements and romp to victory now, isn't she? This is why I normally only bet once-a-year on the Grand National (although I have managed to get it right occasionally: Neptune Collonges was a nice little earner.)0 -
"Due to a bird strike"? Are Northern running the M-497 now?Pro_Rata said:Off topic: Transpennine fun #145.
Choice at Manchester of 2 Newcastle bound trains that arrived on adjacent platforms within 1 minute of each other. I caught the first arrival rather than the earlier scheduled, obviously the other one then got first signals.
Now been told this train is terminating at Stalybridge due to a bird strike.
Sort of glad I didn't place any bets today.0 -
That’s never been tested but Johnson and JRM wouldn’t win a leadership contest. Raab might and so might Mordaunt or a more sensible Remainer than toxic extremists like Soubry, Morgan etc.The_Taxman said:
The problem for the Tories is the ERG, Johnson and Rees-Mogg are even more Toxic. The Tories are driving toward a brick wall whatever they do.AmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
On a separate point, why do you go on about Corbyn being a threat to the economy yet deny a Hard Brexit would not be a problem? In reality both are a serious economic threat!0 -
Sorry we are at crossed purposes. I was referring to Arlene Fosters comments todaygrabcocque said:
Be very clear about the addendum, it says very clearly, that no further clarifications or commitments will be entered into. There is no "coming weeks". There is Thursday and that is all.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The third paragraph makes my pointPhilip_Thompson said:
"The DUP wants a sensible deal which our MPs can support in the House. Over the coming weeks, we will continue to work towards that.0 -
In a rational world (I recommend taking a visit some time), whatever the EU thinks of the agreement has nothing to do with the personality of our Prime Minister.MarqueeMark said:
And any Tory MPs swayed by this to vote to keep May must still believe in Father Christmas.grabcocque said:
Of course not. I'm not sure how many more ways the EU can find to say THE WITHDRAWAL AGREEMENT IS FINAL. May's obviously a bit slow.kle4 said:
Will wording changes make it any more legally binding?Big_G_NorthWales said:
This is the draft that is being discussed at the council over the next two days so why not wait and see the final version. The secret is in the name 'draft'grabcocque said:
It won't. The EUCO draft iskle4 said:
So what was all the fuss about all this time then!?grabcocque said:
Prepare to be underwhelmed. It needs to sway the DUP, who hate to back down.
* not legally binding, only 'best-effort' commitments.
* makes no changes to the WA, and explicitly AFFIRMS the WA
* says nothing about Northern Ireland
* requires the UK govt to take the EU's word on trust.
It's an absolute catastrofuck that confirms all the worst expectations of, well, everyone about the futility of this effort.
https://twitter.com/AlbertoNardelli/status/10729069676251504710 -
Claude would make an incredible Leader of the Opposition. Imagine him with 6 questions to the PM each week.Chameleon said:The real tragedy is that the Apprentice interviews have been delayed for the news. I would have liked to have seen a mashup between the two, perhaps Claude eviscerating May and Corbyn in an interview?
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Meh, anyone who self selects for a Conhome survey isn't going to be representative. I'm a member and tbh, I'd probably want my MP (if we had a Tory in Hampstead) to vote for confidence. I don't think she should be allowed to run another campaign, but wrt brexit, the deal is better than no brexit or no deal and nothing else is on the table.0
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All those with dodgy claims on their CVs would be in a world of trouble.Philip_Thompson said:
Claude would make an incredible Leader of the Opposition. Imagine him with 6 questions to the PM each week.Chameleon said:The real tragedy is that the Apprentice interviews have been delayed for the news. I would have liked to have seen a mashup between the two, perhaps Claude eviscerating May and Corbyn in an interview?
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Arlene is still pretending that May will be able to get the Withdrawal Agreement changed. I think we all know that she cannot believe that, so what's her game?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sorry we are at crossed purposes. I was referring to Arlene Fosters comments todaygrabcocque said:
Be very clear about the addendum, it says very clearly, that no further clarifications or commitments will be entered into. There is no "coming weeks". There is Thursday and that is all.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The third paragraph makes my pointPhilip_Thompson said:
"The DUP wants a sensible deal which our MPs can support in the House. Over the coming weeks, we will continue to work towards that.0 -
I started the day quite cross with all of this nonsense and indicating that if I was a Tory MP I would vote for May through gritted teeth. I have spent far too long in the car today listening to the radio. I regret to say that those who have argued that May is delusional, that she is persisting with a deal that can’t pass the Commons , that some other way forward must be found and it is just not going to come from her have seemed more and more persuasive as the day has gone on.
I of course don’t have a vote but if my experience is mirrored by those that do this could prove to be a lot closer than is currently being suggested.0 -
Depends how many vote against her. I’ve always said she’ll win but 100+ against and her position would be untenable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not going to happen - tonight is their one and only chanceAmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
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That makes the point they're going to continue to work for a new deal which can be supported. Not that they support May as is.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sorry we are at crossed purposes. I was referring to Arlene Fosters comments todaygrabcocque said:
Be very clear about the addendum, it says very clearly, that no further clarifications or commitments will be entered into. There is no "coming weeks". There is Thursday and that is all.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The third paragraph makes my pointPhilip_Thompson said:
"The DUP wants a sensible deal which our MPs can support in the House. Over the coming weeks, we will continue to work towards that.0 -
Making it very clear May's failure forces her hand, not that the DUP abandoned the pact with the Tories lightly.grabcocque said:
Arlene is still pretending that May will be able to get the Withdrawal Agreement changed. I think we all know that she cannot believe that, so what's her game?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sorry we are at crossed purposes. I was referring to Arlene Fosters comments todaygrabcocque said:
Be very clear about the addendum, it says very clearly, that no further clarifications or commitments will be entered into. There is no "coming weeks". There is Thursday and that is all.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The third paragraph makes my pointPhilip_Thompson said:
"The DUP wants a sensible deal which our MPs can support in the House. Over the coming weeks, we will continue to work towards that.0 -
At least you recognise the former. I hope fellow PB'ers have been making the most of the tremendous laying opportunities that these two have offered us this year.AmpfieldAndy said:
That’s never been tested but Johnson and JRM wouldn’t win a leadership contest. Raab might and so might Mordaunt or a more sensible Remainer than toxic extremists like Soubry, Morgan etc.The_Taxman said:
The problem for the Tories is the ERG, Johnson and Rees-Mogg are even more Toxic. The Tories are driving toward a brick wall whatever they do.AmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
On a separate point, why do you go on about Corbyn being a threat to the economy yet deny a Hard Brexit would not be a problem? In reality both are a serious economic threat!0 -
Her position has been untenable since the Summer.AmpfieldAndy said:
Depends how many vote against her. I’ve always said she’ll win but 100+ against and her position would be untenable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not going to happen - tonight is their one and only chanceAmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
But here she is, still ten-ing.0 -
Sorry - it wontAmpfieldAndy said:
Depends how many vote against her. I’ve always said she’ll win but 100+ against and her position would be untenable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not going to happen - tonight is their one and only chanceAmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
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Best news all year.FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/0 -
My best guess is in the region of 200-100AmpfieldAndy said:
Depends how many vote against her. I’ve always said she’ll win but 100+ against and her position would be untenable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not going to happen - tonight is their one and only chanceAmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
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I get the over qualified point but I am reasonably sure Cinnamon is as British as they come.Beverley_C said:
Sorry - overqualified.DavidL said:Can I suggest my daughter's cat Cinnamon for PM. This is a cat who plans ahead, who can undertake complex tasks such as getting bags of treats from high level closed cupboards, who understands the consequences of his actions so that he proceeds to hide those bags of treats for later consumption when he is less likely to be troubled and who fully appreciates that when someone leaves a seat they leave some warmth that can be utilised if you move quickly.
I can’t recall when I last saw evidence of such clear thinking at Westminster. Possibly during the Coalition.
And besides, Cinnamon sounds forrin. Never do old boy. Wrong sort, eh what?0 -
Too much guessing and hoping. Why not waitgrabcocque said:
Arlene is still pretending that May will be able to get the Withdrawal Agreement changed. I think we all know that she cannot believe that, so what's her game?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sorry we are at crossed purposes. I was referring to Arlene Fosters comments todaygrabcocque said:
Be very clear about the addendum, it says very clearly, that no further clarifications or commitments will be entered into. There is no "coming weeks". There is Thursday and that is all.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The third paragraph makes my pointPhilip_Thompson said:
"The DUP wants a sensible deal which our MPs can support in the House. Over the coming weeks, we will continue to work towards that.0 -
Hope you are right - and that I am if it’s less than 159 but more than 100IanB2 said:
My best guess is in the region of 200-100AmpfieldAndy said:
Depends how many vote against her. I’ve always said she’ll win but 100+ against and her position would be untenable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not going to happen - tonight is their one and only chanceAmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
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Alexander Clarkson (@APHClarkson) Tweeted:
Brexit is on an elite level driven by a fear of being normal in the way former empires like Sweden or the Netherlands are normal https://t.co/pTtIeuVJ2v https://twitter.com/APHClarkson/status/1072920077417230336?s=170 -
Yes a model or in this context a fantasy is one thing. In the real world if you administer a shock to an economy it will react.Philip_Thompson said:
Hard Brexiteers model there vision of the nation on Canada.The_Taxman said:
The problem for the Tories is the ERG, Johnson and Rees-Mogg are even more Toxic. The Tories are driving toward a brick wall whatever they do.AmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
On a separate point, why do you go on about Corbyn being a threat to the economy yet deny a Hard Brexit would not be a problem? In reality both are a serious economic threat!
Corbyn models his vision of the nation on Venezuela.
Only one is a serious economic threat.
A Hard Brexit is the equivalent of a country putting sanctions on its own economy. Sanctions cause economic decline, this is why we impose them on other countries. Brexit is the equivalent of putting sanctions on 45% of our trade, with no new trade deals to stimulate activity elsewhere.
Brexit is as realistic economically as a Government announcing we will send machines to an estimated $10 Trillion asteroid to mine platinum or Gold and sell it on the world market. Theoretically, it is sound and maybe even possible. Realistically it is very hard to see it being successful - Brexit is a pipe dream of people who seem to be sick of reality and prefer delusion....0 -
Michael Crick (@MichaelLCrick) Tweeted:
The lists suggest about a third of Tory MPs have now voted https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/1072918939636809729?s=170 -
Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sorry - it wontAmpfieldAndy said:
Depends how many vote against her. I’ve always said she’ll win but 100+ against and her position would be untenable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not going to happen - tonight is their one and only chanceAmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
We’ll see. You will be sorry if you are right and so will I0 -
Makes a change from the staff being on strike!rpjs said:
"Due to a bird strike"? Are Northern running the M-497 now?Pro_Rata said:Off topic: Transpennine fun #145.
Choice at Manchester of 2 Newcastle bound trains that arrived on adjacent platforms within 1 minute of each other. I caught the first arrival rather than the earlier scheduled, obviously the other one then got first signals.
Now been told this train is terminating at Stalybridge due to a bird strike.
Sort of glad I didn't place any bets today.0 -
All things being equal she would lose, but all things are not equal.kle4 said:
The public endorsements have me questioning my own prediction that she will lose, but it would be shocking to me if she didn't. Another election is very likely, particularly if her deal is approved, and they won't want her leading them then. And if her deal is, as is likely, not passed, then what is she even there for? Keeping her only delays further hard choices they need to make.Black_Rook said:
Since the consensus is that she's going to win with room to spare, I'm going to predict that they vote her out.kle4 said:The alternative being? It's not rocket science, if they keep her on she is highly likely to lead them in the next election if it happens ahead of schedule (which seems very likely) because there'd be no way to get a new leader in place.
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TM has recognised it is not TM as is.Philip_Thompson said:
That makes the point they're going to continue to work for a new deal which can be supported. Not that they support May as is.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sorry we are at crossed purposes. I was referring to Arlene Fosters comments todaygrabcocque said:
Be very clear about the addendum, it says very clearly, that no further clarifications or commitments will be entered into. There is no "coming weeks". There is Thursday and that is all.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The third paragraph makes my pointPhilip_Thompson said:
"The DUP wants a sensible deal which our MPs can support in the House. Over the coming weeks, we will continue to work towards that.0 -
In office but not in power.grabcocque said:
Her position has been untenable since the Summer.AmpfieldAndy said:
Depends how many vote against her. I’ve always said she’ll win but 100+ against and her position would be untenable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not going to happen - tonight is their one and only chanceAmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
But here she is, still ten-ing.0 -
I took their free trial, it was shocking.tlg86 said:
Best news all year.FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
They tried to blame by broadband for being slow, my speed tests show I regularly get over 200 Mbps.
They then tried to blame my MacBook, said it had 16GB Ram.0 -
Fuck me, if Con MP waverers fall for that then they deserve any and all insults that get thrown their way.grabcocque said:0 -
Ave it says:
May 210
Not May 105
Approx. Which is just good enough0 -
She's told them it is as realistic as their technical solution to solve the Irish Border issue.Alistair said:
Fuck me, if Con MP waverers fall for that then they deserve any and all insults that get thrown their way.grabcocque said:0 -
Because no-one else's position would be any more tenable.grabcocque said:
Her position has been untenable since the Summer.AmpfieldAndy said:
Depends how many vote against her. I’ve always said she’ll win but 100+ against and her position would be untenable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not going to happen - tonight is their one and only chanceAmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
But here she is, still ten-ing.0 -
Don't worry, they are apparently the most sophisticated electorate in the world.Alistair said:
Fuck me, if Con MP waverers fall for that then they deserve any and all insults that get thrown their way.grabcocque said:
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Well, as I've mentioned below, Sporting had ~ 112 MPs voting against her, comfortably above the 100 threshold it is being suggested would be toxic for her. Also, her offer to resign once Brexit has been achieved suggest she is far less confident of winning the vote this evening than those 1/10 odds in her favour suggest.grabcocque said:
Her position has been untenable since the Summer.AmpfieldAndy said:
Depends how many vote against her. I’ve always said she’ll win but 100+ against and her position would be untenable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not going to happen - tonight is their one and only chanceAmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
But here she is, still ten-ing.0 -
Ha! Quite.kle4 said:
That is true of most meetings.Donny43 said:
In the EU, the conclusions are written before the meeting.Big_G_NorthWales said:
This is the draft that is being discussed at the council over the next two days so why not wait and see the final version. The secret is in the name 'draft'grabcocque said:
It won't. The EUCO draft iskle4 said:
So what was all the fuss about all this time then!?grabcocque said:
Prepare to be underwhelmed. It needs to sway the DUP, who hate to back down.
* not legally binding, only 'best-effort' commitments.
* makes no changes to the WA, and explicitly AFFIRMS the WA
* says nothing about Northern Ireland
* requires the UK govt to take the EU's word on trust.
It's an absolute catastrofuck that confirms all the worst expectations of, well, everyone about the futility of this effort.
https://twitter.com/AlbertoNardelli/status/10729069676251504710 -
Surely there are white label solutions for these kind of streaming services these days? Also, they already had a business doing this before they entered the UK market.TheScreamingEagles said:
I took their free trial, it was shocking.tlg86 said:
Best news all year.FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
They tried to blame by broadband for being slow, my speed tests show I regularly get over 200 Mbps.
They then tried to blame my MacBook, said it had 16GB Ram.0 -
Indeed, sometimes shocks can be good, sometimes shocks can be bad. The idea that shocks are negative only or positive only are both absurd.The_Taxman said:
Yes a model or in this context a fantasy is one thing. In the real world if you administer a shock to an economy it will react.Philip_Thompson said:
Hard Brexiteers model there vision of the nation on Canada.The_Taxman said:
The problem for the Tories is the ERG, Johnson and Rees-Mogg are even more Toxic. The Tories are driving toward a brick wall whatever they do.AmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
On a separate point, why do you go on about Corbyn being a threat to the economy yet deny a Hard Brexit would not be a problem? In reality both are a serious economic threat!
Corbyn models his vision of the nation on Venezuela.
Only one is a serious economic threat.
A Hard Brexit is the equivalent of a country putting sanctions on its own economy. Sanctions cause economic decline, this is why we impose them on other countries. Brexit is the equivalent of putting sanctions on 45% of our trade, with no new trade deals to stimulate activity elsewhere.
Brexit is as realistic economically as a Government announcing we will send machines to an estimated $10 Trillion asteroid to mine platinum or Gold and sell it on the world market. Theoretically, it is sound and maybe even possible. Realistically it is very hard to see it being successful - Brexit is a pipe dream of people who seem to be sick of reality and prefer delusion....
A hard Brexit is not the equivalent of sanctions.0 -
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FrancisUrquhart said:
May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
Good. The utter state of the PGA Championship - I have Virgin cable with ‘all’ sports channels yet had to pay to watch the bloody thing on a laptop! They rinsed me for £5.99 even though it was supposed to be a free trial.0 -
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" Untenable " is a reality based concept. In this post 2016 Anglo-American experiment with post-modern election results it's in abeyance for a while. But as an old lecturer said " You can deconstruct a red light but you'll still eventually crash if you drive through enough of them. "grabcocque said:
Her position has been untenable since the Summer.AmpfieldAndy said:
Depends how many vote against her. I’ve always said she’ll win but 100+ against and her position would be untenable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not going to happen - tonight is their one and only chanceAmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
But here she is, still ten-ing.0 -
Shame OGH isn't able to do a prediction competition for this, could be fun.
May 182
Not May 135
Terrible result for everyone. May limps on, in office but not in power or respected. Rebels fail to oust her but inflict a humiliating blow. All this mess limbers on.0 -
Will there be calls for a rerun of the vote if she has misled them? ;-)Chameleon said:https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1072915160208158721
She's tripling down.0 -
IIRC their overseas operations were linear channels based, here they started off as a streaming service.FrancisUrquhart said:
Surely there are white label solutions for these kind of streaming services these days? Also, they already had a business doing this before they entered the UK market.TheScreamingEagles said:
I took their free trial, it was shocking.tlg86 said:
Best news all year.FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
They tried to blame by broadband for being slow, my speed tests show I regularly get over 200 Mbps.
They then tried to blame my MacBook, said it had 16GB Ram.
One La Liga match I watched, the pictures were 20 mins behind real events, but the commentary was not, but actually on time.0 -
Voters as a whole though want May to stay 40% to 30% and Tory voters by 58% to 28% even if Tory members do not
https://mobile.twitter.com/YouGov/status/1072882952059674624/photo/10 -
There is no excuse for that these days, even the pirates broadcast reliable 1080p streams.TheScreamingEagles said:
IIRC their overseas operations were linear channels based, here they started off as a streaming service.FrancisUrquhart said:
Surely there are white label solutions for these kind of streaming services these days? Also, they already had a business doing this before they entered the UK market.TheScreamingEagles said:
I took their free trial, it was shocking.tlg86 said:
Best news all year.FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
They tried to blame by broadband for being slow, my speed tests show I regularly get over 200 Mbps.
They then tried to blame my MacBook, said it had 16GB Ram.
One La Liga match I watched, the pictures were 20 mins behind real events, but the commentary was not, but actually on time.0 -
Go on then.161-156 for May. Wins, will try to stay , but will have to go.0
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200 makes her safe. Below 180 everything kicks off even if she vows to carry on. The opposition parties despite Vince's comment today would round on a lame duck leader and that's before you get to the Toriespeter_from_putney said:
Well, as I've mentioned below, Sporting had ~ 112 MPs voting against her, comfortably above the 100 threshold it is being suggested would be toxic for her. Also, her offer to resign once Brexit has been achieved suggest she is far less confident of winning the vote this evening than those 1/10 odds in her favour suggest.grabcocque said:
Her position has been untenable since the Summer.AmpfieldAndy said:
Depends how many vote against her. I’ve always said she’ll win but 100+ against and her position would be untenable.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not going to happen - tonight is their one and only chanceAmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
But here she is, still ten-ing.
Edit and comparisons to Corbyn are futile. He's LOTO and anyway Corbynism is a belief set.0 -
Isn't there a round of the Premier League coming up soon that will be broadcast on Amazon Prime?Anazina said:FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
Good. The utter state of the PGA Championship - I have Virgin cable with ‘all’ sports channels yet had to pay to watch the bloody thing on a laptop! They rinsed me for £5.99 even though it was supposed to be a free trial.
Not sure what that means for those who watch it at home or in pubs normally.0 -
Michael Crick (@MichaelLCrick) Tweeted:
Craig Mackinlay, back from his election expenses trial at Southwark Crown Court, where the jury are still deliberating, has just voted https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/1072918641602109440?s=170 -
Different franchise, faster nicer trains (not M-497 fast), but same tracks, same delays.theProle said:
Makes a change from the staff being on strike!rpjs said:
"Due to a bird strike"? Are Northern running the M-497 now?Pro_Rata said:Off topic: Transpennine fun #145.
Choice at Manchester of 2 Newcastle bound trains that arrived on adjacent platforms within 1 minute of each other. I caught the first arrival rather than the earlier scheduled, obviously the other one then got first signals.
Now been told this train is terminating at Stalybridge due to a bird strike.
Sort of glad I didn't place any bets today.
A replacement train was waiting for us, which was OK, lost about 15 minutes in all.0 -
Brexit will impede economic activity in a similar way as it constricts the economy.Philip_Thompson said:
Indeed, sometimes shocks can be good, sometimes shocks can be bad. The idea that shocks are negative only or positive only are both absurd.The_Taxman said:
Yes a model or in this context a fantasy is one thing. In the real world if you administer a shock to an economy it will react.Philip_Thompson said:
Hard Brexiteers model there vision of the nation on Canada.The_Taxman said:
The problem for the Tories is the ERG, Johnson and Rees-Mogg are even more Toxic. The Tories are driving toward a brick wall whatever they do.AmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
On a separate point, why do you go on about Corbyn being a threat to the economy yet deny a Hard Brexit would not be a problem? In reality both are a serious economic threat!
Corbyn models his vision of the nation on Venezuela.
Only one is a serious economic threat.
A Hard Brexit is the equivalent of a country putting sanctions on its own economy. Sanctions cause economic decline, this is why we impose them on other countries. Brexit is the equivalent of putting sanctions on 45% of our trade, with no new trade deals to stimulate activity elsewhere.
Brexit is as realistic economically as a Government announcing we will send machines to an estimated $10 Trillion asteroid to mine platinum or Gold and sell it on the world market. Theoretically, it is sound and maybe even possible. Realistically it is very hard to see it being successful - Brexit is a pipe dream of people who seem to be sick of reality and prefer delusion....
A hard Brexit is not the equivalent of sanctions.
It is all very well you saying some shocks are good as long as someone else is paying the price!0 -
Can't be. 12 month rule.FrancisUrquhart said:
Will there be calls for a rerun of the vote if she has misled them? ;-)Chameleon said:https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1072915160208158721
She's tripling down.
MPs should take into account she's a known compulsive liar, but probably will hear whatever they want to hear.0 -
May 164
Not May 151
For me, not least because it would be 52/48. But yes, almost whatever this is going to be a pretty terrible result for the country, taking 'in office but not in power' to whole new levels.
MPs have nothing to gain by voting for May, but not publicly declaring for her, so I expect the votes for to be below the public supporter numbers.0 -
Amazon need to bloody sort out their coverage. The NFL coverage is good (because it is just a restream of the US TV coverage), but the tennis was absolutely shocking. Hard to find, cameras on outside courts not able to see the player at the nearest baseline and the commentary sounded like two bored blokes watching it from their garage.Philip_Thompson said:
Isn't there a round of the Premier League coming up soon that will be broadcast on Amazon Prime?Anazina said:FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
Good. The utter state of the PGA Championship - I have Virgin cable with ‘all’ sports channels yet had to pay to watch the bloody thing on a laptop! They rinsed me for £5.99 even though it was supposed to be a free trial.
Not sure what that means for those who watch it at home or in pubs normally.0 -
One for the procedure geeks:
If Corbyn were to decide to table an FTPA-compliant VONC, how quickly would it be voted on?0 -
May 168 Opponents 1490
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I think a vote like that and she would have to go. Anything under 200 for her would be fatal imo.Philip_Thompson said:Shame OGH isn't able to do a prediction competition for this, could be fun.
May 182
Not May 135
Terrible result for everyone. May limps on, in office but not in power or respected. Rebels fail to oust her but inflict a humiliating blow. All this mess limbers on.0 -
I know about the 12 month rule, I was joking about it re lies on side of bus etc.Philip_Thompson said:
Can't be. 12 month rule.FrancisUrquhart said:
Will there be calls for a rerun of the vote if she has misled them? ;-)Chameleon said:https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1072915160208158721
She's tripling down.
MPs should take into account she's a known compulsive liar, but probably will hear whatever they want to hear.0 -
I know.FrancisUrquhart said:
There is no excuse for that these days, even the pirates broadcast reliable 1080p streams.TheScreamingEagles said:
IIRC their overseas operations were linear channels based, here they started off as a streaming service.FrancisUrquhart said:
Surely there are white label solutions for these kind of streaming services these days? Also, they already had a business doing this before they entered the UK market.TheScreamingEagles said:
I took their free trial, it was shocking.tlg86 said:
Best news all year.FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
They tried to blame by broadband for being slow, my speed tests show I regularly get over 200 Mbps.
They then tried to blame my MacBook, said it had 16GB Ram.
One La Liga match I watched, the pictures were 20 mins behind real events, but the commentary was not, but actually on time.
From what people said it was 6 blokes in an office working off a rented server.
Few of them had any experience of running an operation like this.0 -
If I'm having a cardiac arrest and you're trained and have paddles available then please use them on me!The_Taxman said:
Brexit will impede economic activity in a similar way as it constricts the economy.Philip_Thompson said:
Indeed, sometimes shocks can be good, sometimes shocks can be bad. The idea that shocks are negative only or positive only are both absurd.The_Taxman said:
Yes a model or in this context a fantasy is one thing. In the real world if you administer a shock to an economy it will react.Philip_Thompson said:
Hard Brexiteers model there vision of the nation on Canada.The_Taxman said:
The problem for the Tories is the ERG, Johnson and Rees-Mogg are even more Toxic. The Tories are driving toward a brick wall whatever they do.AmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
On a separate point, why do you go on about Corbyn being a threat to the economy yet deny a Hard Brexit would not be a problem? In reality both are a serious economic threat!
Corbyn models his vision of the nation on Venezuela.
Only one is a serious economic threat.
A Hard Brexit is the equivalent of a country putting sanctions on its own economy. Sanctions cause economic decline, this is why we impose them on other countries. Brexit is the equivalent of putting sanctions on 45% of our trade, with no new trade deals to stimulate activity elsewhere.
Brexit is as realistic economically as a Government announcing we will send machines to an estimated $10 Trillion asteroid to mine platinum or Gold and sell it on the world market. Theoretically, it is sound and maybe even possible. Realistically it is very hard to see it being successful - Brexit is a pipe dream of people who seem to be sick of reality and prefer delusion....
A hard Brexit is not the equivalent of sanctions.
It is all very well you saying some shocks are good as long as someone else is paying the price!
EU regulations constrict the economy - and our democracy. If we take control we set our own rules on the best way we believe to manage the economy rather than in collaboration with 27 other nations.0 -
Sgt. Sunil: Alright, sweethearts, you're a team and there's nothin' to worry about. We come here, and we're gonna conquer, and we're gonna kick some, is that understood? That's what we're gonna do, sweethearts, we are going to go and get some. All right, people, on the ready line! Are ya lean?
PB Tories: Yeah!
Sgt. Sunil: Are ya mean?
PB Tories: Yeah!
Sgt. Sunil: WHAT ARE YOU?
PB Tories: Lean and mean!
Sgt. Sunil: WHAT ARE YOU? RobD! TSE! Get on the ready line, PB Tories, get some today! Get on the ready line! Move it out! Move it out, goddammit! Get hot! One, two, three, four! Get out, get out, get out! Move it out, move it out, move it out! Move it out, move it out, move it out! One, two, three, four, five, six, seven! Aaarrrrr, absolutely badasses! Let's pack 'em in! Get in there!
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I'll go for:
May 174
Not May 1430 -
Jesus Christ, even the illegal IPTV services have more sophisticated setups than that.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know.FrancisUrquhart said:
There is no excuse for that these days, even the pirates broadcast reliable 1080p streams.TheScreamingEagles said:
IIRC their overseas operations were linear channels based, here they started off as a streaming service.FrancisUrquhart said:
Surely there are white label solutions for these kind of streaming services these days? Also, they already had a business doing this before they entered the UK market.TheScreamingEagles said:
I took their free trial, it was shocking.tlg86 said:
Best news all year.FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
They tried to blame by broadband for being slow, my speed tests show I regularly get over 200 Mbps.
They then tried to blame my MacBook, said it had 16GB Ram.
One La Liga match I watched, the pictures were 20 mins behind real events, but the commentary was not, but actually on time.
From what people said it was 6 blokes in an office working off a rented server.
Few of them had any experience of running an operation like this.0 -
Peston does talk some nonsense sometimes . Equating the 100 who said they would vote against the deal as the same 100 who will vote against her in the confidence motion.
Some of the 100 have already said they will support her , some of the 100 are Remainers who are hardly going to oust her for an ERG nutjob!0 -
A tough but fair appraisal of possible future Tory leaders.oxfordsimon said:
With the woeful quality of the candidates, cancelling it is a blessing. We don't need to see them on screen ever again.FrancisUrquhart said:The Apprentice episode might be cancelled...that be sure to piss a lot of people off.
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I have a feeling the EU aren't going to listen, despite them coming up with a shit show of a law...
https://torrentfreak.com/activists-to-deliver-4-million-anti-article-13-signatures-to-eu-parliament-181211/0 -
Is trying to coincide post 1000 with the result:
177:1380 -
I tried to watch the US Open tennis on Amazon Prime (smart TV). Virtually unwatchable, really jerky and too low res for even a 30ish inch TV (dunno my size without checking). Plus not being in the EPG is a real problem.TheScreamingEagles said:
IIRC their overseas operations were linear channels based, here they started off as a streaming service.FrancisUrquhart said:
Surely there are white label solutions for these kind of streaming services these days? Also, they already had a business doing this before they entered the UK market.TheScreamingEagles said:
I took their free trial, it was shocking.tlg86 said:
Best news all year.FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
They tried to blame by broadband for being slow, my speed tests show I regularly get over 200 Mbps.
They then tried to blame my MacBook, said it had 16GB Ram.
One La Liga match I watched, the pictures were 20 mins behind real events, but the commentary was not, but actually on time.0 -
That would be at the discretion of Bercow surely, but I believe precedent is for it to be voted on the next day. Certainly enough time is meant to be given to allow MPs who aren't present to get to Westminster (there's much talk about the journeys that MPs did and fatefully that one Labour MP did not make in 1979).Donny43 said:One for the procedure geeks:
If Corbyn were to decide to table an FTPA-compliant VONC, how quickly would it be voted on?0 -
May 179
Just the level where it is neither automatic she stays or goes.0 -
They're - ummm - swapping one centrist pro-EU politician (Macron) for another (Bayrou)?AndyJS said:O/T
"Europe Elects
@EuropeElects
22m22 minutes ago
France, Ipsos poll:
Approval ratings (president+party leaders)
Bayrou (MoDem-ALDE): 28%
Le Pen (RN-ENF): 27%
Mélenchon (FI-LEFT): 26% (+2)
Dupont-Aignan (DLF-EFDD): 25% (+6)
Hamon (G.s.-S&D): 22% (-5)
Macron (LREM-ALDE): 20% (-6)
Field work: 7/12/18 – 8/12/18
Sample size: 971"
Also, I'm not sure approval numbers are that useful, given the total adds up to about 150%.0 -
Sounds like another bloody awful viewing experience. We have tellies for a reason.Philip_Thompson said:
Isn't there a round of the Premier League coming up soon that will be broadcast on Amazon Prime?Anazina said:FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
Good. The utter state of the PGA Championship - I have Virgin cable with ‘all’ sports channels yet had to pay to watch the bloody thing on a laptop! They rinsed me for £5.99 even though it was supposed to be a free trial.
Not sure what that means for those who watch it at home or in pubs normally.0 -
Yet this is the sort of garbage law we'll apparently be constricted to be without. Ridiculous!FrancisUrquhart said:I have a feeling the EU aren't going to listen, despite them coming up with a shit show of a law...
https://torrentfreak.com/activists-to-deliver-4-million-anti-article-13-signatures-to-eu-parliament-181211/0 -
Looks like I'm going to lose money on this. There has been nowhere near the volatility I expected on Betfair. Though I like their new Auto Cash Out facility where you can set an amount of potential winnings to take if the market shifts then just leave it.0
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So the earliest would be Monday if he moves tonight? Think the House isn't sitting on Friday?Philip_Thompson said:
That would be at the discretion of Bercow surely, but I believe precedent is for it to be voted on the next day. Certainly enough time is meant to be given to allow MPs who aren't present to get to Westminster (there's much talk about the journeys that MPs did and fatefully that one Labour MP did not make in 1979).Donny43 said:One for the procedure geeks:
If Corbyn were to decide to table an FTPA-compliant VONC, how quickly would it be voted on?0 -
I know, when I watch Liverpool's matches that aren't live on Sky/BT I seldom have problems.FrancisUrquhart said:
Jesus Christ, even the illegal IPTV services have more sophisticated setups than that.
I've not told you about the time they tried to ensure chromecasting/Airplay to a TV worked.
It felt like an episode of The IT Crowd.
Suffice it to say what appeared on my Ultra HDTV looked like a poor video from 2001 on a dial up modem.0 -
That would be a doomed Thatcher- type result. As the incumbent she surely couldn't possibly survive a humiliation on anything like this scale. I reckon she has to win by at least 67%:33% to continue in office.Philip_Thompson said:Shame OGH isn't able to do a prediction competition for this, could be fun.
May 182
Not May 135
Terrible result for everyone. May limps on, in office but not in power or respected. Rebels fail to oust her but inflict a humiliating blow. All this mess limbers on.0 -
May 202
Not May 1150 -
Most people have tellies or 'sticks' with apps on them, like Amazon's streaming service.Anazina said:
Sounds like another bloody awful viewing experience. We have tellies for a reason.Philip_Thompson said:
Isn't there a round of the Premier League coming up soon that will be broadcast on Amazon Prime?Anazina said:FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
Good. The utter state of the PGA Championship - I have Virgin cable with ‘all’ sports channels yet had to pay to watch the bloody thing on a laptop! They rinsed me for £5.99 even though it was supposed to be a free trial.
Not sure what that means for those who watch it at home or in pubs normally.0 -
I think she will carry on if she wins by a single vote.peter_from_putney said:
That would be a doomed Thatcher- type result. As the incumbent she surely couldn't possibly survive a humiliation on anything like this scale. I reckon she has to win by at least 67%:33% to continue in office.Philip_Thompson said:Shame OGH isn't able to do a prediction competition for this, could be fun.
May 182
Not May 135
Terrible result for everyone. May limps on, in office but not in power or respected. Rebels fail to oust her but inflict a humiliating blow. All this mess limbers on.
Having said that, you can still get 7/1 on her being out by Jan 2019 on BF exchange if you think she'll win the vote but still resign...0 -
The new 4k Amazon Fire Tv Stick is very solid bit of kit and was only £35 during Black Friday/Sat/Sun/Mon/Tues/Wed/Thurs.Gallowgate said:
Most people have tellies or 'sticks' with apps on them, like Amazon's streaming service.Anazina said:
Sounds like another bloody awful viewing experience. We have tellies for a reason.Philip_Thompson said:
Isn't there a round of the Premier League coming up soon that will be broadcast on Amazon Prime?Anazina said:FrancisUrquhart said:May's premiership might have hit the buffers rather quickly, but these guys are doing even worse...
Eleven Sports, a streaming service that aimed to become the "Netflix of sport", is at risk of closure after only four months, following its failure to secure distribution via established pay-TV operators and amid concern over mounting losses.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt that Eleven Sports is considering pulling the plug on its UK operation after the mixed martial arts competition UFC triggered an exit clause on its exclusive deal, which was due to begin in January.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/12/12/netflix-sport-streaming-service-eleven-sports-risk-closure/
Good. The utter state of the PGA Championship - I have Virgin cable with ‘all’ sports channels yet had to pay to watch the bloody thing on a laptop! They rinsed me for £5.99 even though it was supposed to be a free trial.
Not sure what that means for those who watch it at home or in pubs normally.0 -
May in the 150s
Not May inthe 160s0 -
Ladies and gentleman, I think we've got him.
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/10729278327273226240 -
That was done ages ago. This was to deal with an injury which led to a lot of unpleasant bleeding on my sofa and an emergency trip to the animal hospital, plus some work on his teeth.Beverley_C said:FPT:
I presume that there is an equally large hole in his future reproductive capacity?Cyclefree said:
The Cat is now back, a bit spaced out but otherwise OK and looking forward to running the country once he has had his special post-op dinner and a good sleep.Beverley_C said:
Yes. We already agreed this afternoon that a piece of bacon rind I took out of my kicthen sink's drain is the next DexEU SoS. Cyclefree and I drew up the Cabinet positions earlier and they are upthread.David_Evershed said:
Time for a different DEXEU Secretary of State?MarqueeMark said:If May survives - significant Cabinet reshuffle?
There is still some debate about the 18 goldfish however, but Charles is looking into the fish tank....
I too am looking forward to managing his PM's salary since there is an enormous hole in my savings caused by the vet's bill.
Glad that Tuss is otherwise OK
I rather wish one of my children had trained as a vet. They wouldn't want for money, whatever happens......0 -
Technically she can as unlike Thatcher she cannot be challenged again for a yearpeter_from_putney said:
That would be a doomed Thatcher- type result. As the incumbent she surely couldn't possibly survive a humiliation on anything like this scale. I reckon she has to win by at least 67%:33% to continue in office.Philip_Thompson said:Shame OGH isn't able to do a prediction competition for this, could be fun.
May 182
Not May 135
Terrible result for everyone. May limps on, in office but not in power or respected. Rebels fail to oust her but inflict a humiliating blow. All this mess limbers on.0 -
Think I've gone for even fewer May supporters in John Rentoul's sweepstakepeter_from_putney said:
That would be a doomed Thatcher- type result. As the incumbent she surely couldn't possibly survive a humiliation on anything like this scale. I reckon she has to win by at least 67%:33% to continue in office.Philip_Thompson said:Shame OGH isn't able to do a prediction competition for this, could be fun.
May 182
Not May 135
Terrible result for everyone. May limps on, in office but not in power or respected. Rebels fail to oust her but inflict a humiliating blow. All this mess limbers on.0 -
Does Gove have the numbers ?YellowSubmarine said:Michael Crick (@MichaelLCrick) Tweeted:
The lists suggest about a third of Tory MPs have now voted https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/1072918939636809729?s=170 -
The UK has sovereign control over the management of the economy at this time i.e. B of England, HM Treasury. We voluntarily agreed to conduct international trade in the EU on specific terms, which reduced barriers to trade, investment, people and capital. Setting universal standards within the EU does not inhibit the economy, paradoxically it expands it as more potential consumers are available and competitive companies based in the UK can export to this single market.Philip_Thompson said:
If I'm having a cardiac arrest and you're trained and have paddles available then please use them on me!The_Taxman said:
Brexit will impede economic activity in a similar way as it constricts the economy.Philip_Thompson said:
Indeed, sometimes shocks can be good, sometimes shocks can be bad. The idea that shocks are negative only or positive only are both absurd.The_Taxman said:
YA Hard Brexit is the equivalent of a country putting sanctions on its own economy. Sanctions cause economic decline, this is why we impose them on other countries. Brexit is the equivalent of putting sanctions on 45% of our trade, with no new trade deals to stimulate activity elsewhere.Philip_Thompson said:The_Taxman said:AmpfieldAndy said:May is toxic and members know it. She was a disaster in the GE; her Brexit is woeful; she has totally abandoned domestic policy; she’s a control freak who has surrounded herself with yes-men and failed to build a consensus within her own party let alone the country; she has betrayed her own allies in the DUP and if she stays she’ll ensure end up with a Corbyn Gov. MPs should do their duty by their constituents and ditch her.
Only one is a serious economic threat.
Brexit is as realistic economically as a Government announcing we will send machines to an estimated $10 Trillion asteroid to mine platinum or Gold and sell it on the world market. Theoretically, it is sound and maybe even possible. Realistically it is very hard to see it being successful - Brexit is a pipe dream of people who seem to be sick of reality and prefer delusion....
A hard Brexit is not the equivalent of sanctions.
It is all very well you saying some shocks are good as long as someone else is paying the price!
EU regulations constrict the economy - and our democracy. If we take control we set our own rules on the best way we believe to manage the economy rather than in collaboration with 27 other nations.0 -
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We're a decimal culture. Over/Under 100 for non May votes and Over/Under 200 for May votes will be the psychological barriers however arbitrary they are. If the rebels score one she's in trouble, if the score both she's finished. If they score neither she gets a few days momentum before the routed ERGers turn to metaphorical terrorist tactics.0
