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It is perhaps not surprising given the scale of the story at the time was but whenever people think of Conservative leadership contests and disposal of incumbents they look back to 1990 when Mrs Thatcher had to depart.
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Could she technically resign and stand? IE Without a confidence vote?0
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Nobody insulted women. The fact you are substituting another word for women just shows you know that insulting women is worse than what was really said. Don't be dishonest.TOPPING said:
Yes you are right. Insulting women, or applauding it, is great prep for a life of wedded bliss.Philip_Thompson said:
I never said he's doing a ok. I just thought your logic was awful.TOPPING said:
Yeah good hair to split. Even Theresa slapped him down but to you lot he's doing a-ok.Philip_Thompson said:
Many Conservatives are women. If someone insults Conservatives does that mean they're insulting women?TOPPING said:
He was insulting feminists many of whom are women. People of course dismiss feminism out of hand without thought of the principles behind it like drunk Ukippers even some on here.RobD said:
Was he insulting women because they are women?TOPPING said:
I think insulting women because they are women can be seen as misogynist.RobD said:
Does what he said really constitute misogyny?TOPPING said:
Championing a potentially misogynist sentiment in advance of your own wedding (assuming he is marrying a woman) is I don't think well-judged.Pulpstar said:
What's his wedding got to do with anything ?TOPPING said:
Max not a good look especially in advance of your wedding.MaxPB said:
I like him even more now, Raab4Leader!TheScreamingEagles said:
That's a judgement on you. Not Theresa or anyone else.
Any -Ism can and should stand on its own two feet not need to be substituted for another word.0 -
I think Boris resigns this afternoon.0
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10/1 on Boris going today looks huge!
(Or maybe he simply cancelled his engagement to attend COBRA on the Salisbury incident?)0 -
Good spot Mike.
On the question of a leadership challenge, no one is in control of events. That means that the Conservatives might well wander accidentally into a vote of confidence when no big beast wants one. What would happen after that is hard to judge.0 -
I wouldn't fancy being a Tory minster who has decided that they will also go if Boris goes. All there with your letter and ready to go to war and he could march them up to the top of the hill and then decide that it isn't good for him.GIN1138 said:I think Boris resigns this afternoon.
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Is calling a set of women "rabid" insulting or not.Philip_Thompson said:FPT
Nobody insulted women.TOPPING said:
Yes you are right. Insulting women, or applauding it, is great prep for a life of wedded bliss.Philip_Thompson said:
I never said he's doing a ok. I just thought your logic was awful.TOPPING said:
Yeah good hair to split. Even Theresa slapped him down but to you lot he's doing a-ok.Philip_Thompson said:
Many Conservatives are women. If someone insults Conservatives does that mean they're insulting women?TOPPING said:
He was insulting feminists many of whom are women. People of course dismiss feminism out of hand without thought of the principles behind it like drunk Ukippers even some on here.RobD said:
Was he insulting women because they are women?TOPPING said:
I think insulting women because they are women can be seen as misogynist.RobD said:
Does what he said really constitute misogyny?TOPPING said:
Championing a potentially misogynist sentiment in advance of your own wedding (assuming he is marrying a woman) is I don't think well-judged.Pulpstar said:
What's his wedding got to do with anything ?TOPPING said:
Max not a good look especially in advance of your wedding.MaxPB said:
I like him even more now, Raab4Leader!TheScreamingEagles said:
That's a judgement on you. Not Theresa or anyone else.0 -
https://order-order.com/2018/07/09/baker-no-10-blindsided-brexiters-briefed-us/
Team May again comes across as a right load of shits. Doesn't seem much has changed since Timothy and co were running the show.0 -
He is attending:Sandpit said:10/1 on Boris going today looks huge!
(Or maybe he simply cancelled his engagement to attend COBRA on the Salisbury incident?)
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/10162982701954375710 -
Cynically could it be that PaddyPower do understand the rules but are profiting off the ignorance of punters that don't?
After all if there is a leadership contest and May doesn't stand (As she is ineligible) then all those who bet at 1/2 have lost the bet and PaddyPower wins.0 -
I would have thought not attending would be instant sacking, as it is national security issue.AlastairMeeks said:
He is attending:Sandpit said:10/1 on Boris going today looks huge!
(Or maybe he simply cancelled his engagement to attend COBRA on the Salisbury incident?)
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To that set of women yes. To women in general no.TOPPING said:
Is calling a set of women "rabid" insulting or not.Philip_Thompson said:FPT
Nobody insulted women.TOPPING said:
Yes you are right. Insulting women, or applauding it, is great prep for a life of wedded bliss.Philip_Thompson said:
I never said he's doing a ok. I just thought your logic was awful.TOPPING said:
Yeah good hair to split. Even Theresa slapped him down but to you lot he's doing a-ok.Philip_Thompson said:
Many Conservatives are women. If someone insults Conservatives does that mean they're insulting women?TOPPING said:
He was insulting feminists many of whom are women. People of course dismiss feminism out of hand without thought of the principles behind it like drunk Ukippers even some on here.RobD said:
Was he insulting women because they are women?TOPPING said:
I think insulting women because they are women can be seen as misogynist.RobD said:
Does what he said really constitute misogyny?TOPPING said:
Championing a potentially misogynist sentiment in advance of your own wedding (assuming he is marrying a woman) is I don't think well-judged.Pulpstar said:
What's his wedding got to do with anything ?TOPPING said:
Max not a good look especially in advance of your wedding.MaxPB said:
I like him even more now, Raab4Leader!TheScreamingEagles said:
That's a judgement on you. Not Theresa or anyone else.
To put it in a way you may understand if I say the Republicans today are rabid that is insulting to Republicans. It is not insulting to Americans. This is a very basic all dogs are animals but not all animals are dogs issue.0 -
Who's got the Raab's dogsbody job ?0
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Raab is the dogsbody by the sound of it.Pulpstar said:Who's got the Raab's dogsbody job ?
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https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1016300671270772738AlastairMeeks said:
He is attending:Sandpit said:10/1 on Boris going today looks huge!
(Or maybe he simply cancelled his engagement to attend COBRA on the Salisbury incident?)
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We even now seem to have ITV and the BBC offering conflicting accounts of Boris's movements.Scott_P said:
Surely for such a serious meeting that involves relations with Russia potentially one might expect people to know where the Foreign Secretary is?
Where is Boris?0 -
I haven't been so excited since journalists were live-tracking Priti Patel's plane before she was sacked. Though the football at the weekend was moderately gripping by comparison.0
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May should sack Boris right now and make Hague foreign secretary.0
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First, you said that he hadn't insulted women ("nobody insulted women") and now you at least acknowledge that you were wrong and he did insult women.Philip_Thompson said:
To that set of women yes. To women in general no.TOPPING said:
Is calling a set of women "rabid" insulting or not.Philip_Thompson said:FPT
Nobody insulted women.TOPPING said:
Yes you are right. Insulting women, or applauding it, is great prep for a life of wedded bliss.Philip_Thompson said:
I never said he's doing a ok. I just thought your logic was awful.TOPPING said:
Yeah good hair to split. Even Theresa slapped him down but to you lot he's doing a-ok.Philip_Thompson said:
Many Conservatives are women. If someone insults Conservatives does that mean they're insulting women?TOPPING said:
He was insulting feminists many of whom are women. People of course dismiss feminism out of hand without thought of the principles behind it like drunk Ukippers even some on here.RobD said:
Was he insulting women because they are women?TOPPING said:
I think insulting women because they are women can be seen as misogynist.RobD said:
Does what he said really constitute misogyny?TOPPING said:
Championing a potentially misogynist sentiment in advance of your own wedding (assuming he is marrying a woman) is I don't think well-judged.Pulpstar said:
What's his wedding got to do with anything ?TOPPING said:
Max not a good look especially in advance of your wedding.MaxPB said:
I like him even more now, Raab4Leader!TheScreamingEagles said:
That's a judgement on you. Not Theresa or anyone else.
To put it in a way you may understand if I say the Republicans today are rabid that is insulting to Republicans. It is not insulting to Americans. This is a very basic all dogs are animals but not all animals are dogs issue.
And secondly, in this case he seems to have invented a set of opinions, attributed them to "feminists", and then insulted them. If you really don't understand the implications and context of this, then I'm afraid I can't help you further.0 -
Surely if Boris hasn't gone to COBRA he has to resign now? Or feign a serious illness.
It's either that or be sacked surely?0 -
In the words of Tammy Wynette talking about her hard drinking husband George Jones when he was off on a bender;
"I don't know where Boris is. Even Boris doesn't know where Boris is"0 -
No he did not insult women. I didn't say he did.TOPPING said:First, you said that he hadn't insulted women ("nobody insulted women") and now you at least acknowledge that you were wrong and he did insult women.
And secondly, in this case he seems to have invented a set of opinions, attributed them to "feminists", and then insulted them. If you really don't understand the implications and context of this, then I'm afraid I can't help you further.
Women is a general phrase that refers to 50% of the population. The way you are meaning it means all women. Insulting some women is no more insulting women than insulting Tories is insulting Britons.0 -
It is. But even if May was reelected under such a process positions on Brexit are now so entrenched that she would be still be unable to make progress. It is not conceivable that the Tory Party can come up with any Brexit deal that will go through Parliament under May or any other leader.rpjs said:
Isn’t that exactly what Major did?Jonathan said:Could she technically resign and stand? IE Without a confidence vote?
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Wonder whether Theresa told Raab the department he's taking over is about to be stripped of it's responsibilities?williamglenn said:
Raab is the dogsbody by the sound of it.Pulpstar said:Who's got the Raab's dogsbody job ?
If not he might resign later (saying that he took the job under false pretenses)
What's the shortest ever held Cabinet position in history?0 -
How does the PM’s chief of staff not know where the foreign secretary is?Philip_Thompson said:Surely if Boris hasn't gone to COBRA he has to resign now? Or feign a serious illness.
It's either that or be sacked surely?0 -
If only we were three years after the last election at a point where it might be reasonable to call another one. Or had an overall working majority.anothernick said:
It is. But even if May was reelected under such a process positions on Brexit are now so entrenched that she would be still be unable to make progress. It is not conceivable that the Tory Party can come up with any Brexit deal that will go through Parliament under May or any other leader.rpjs said:
Isn’t that exactly what Major did?Jonathan said:Could she technically resign and stand? IE Without a confidence vote?
May deserves nothing but contempt for what she has done.0 -
Schrodinger's Boris.0
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Sandpit said:
How does the PM’s chief of staff not know where the foreign secretary is?Philip_Thompson said:Surely if Boris hasn't gone to COBRA he has to resign now? Or feign a serious illness.
It's either that or be sacked surely?
This is what a collapsing government looks like?0 -
Where’s Wally?
Is the Tory party a government or a comedy show?0 -
Can we just not open the box? Win/win.dixiedean said:Schrodinger's Boris.
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Not a good day to be a Tory not-obsessed with Europe ...
Repeat daily x 25 years on and off.0 -
Good afternoon, everyone.
Sometimes I think about writing something comparing the Conservative Party's approach to leadership to the Macedonian concept of kingship in the 4th century BC.0 -
And I really regret helping Andrea Jenkyns win.
It might have been better if Ed Balls had held on.
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No. A leader who resigns is explicitly barred from the subsequent election. This rule was introduced during Hague's leadership, when the Party adopted its constitution.Jonathan said:Could she technically resign and stand? IE Without a confidence vote?
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"Nobody insulted women."Philip_Thompson said:
No he did not insult women. I didn't say he did.TOPPING said:First, you said that he hadn't insulted women ("nobody insulted women") and now you at least acknowledge that you were wrong and he did insult women.
And secondly, in this case he seems to have invented a set of opinions, attributed them to "feminists", and then insulted them. If you really don't understand the implications and context of this, then I'm afraid I can't help you further.
Is what you said. Do you think calling feminists obnoxious bigots was not insulting?
Here's the whole thing for interested fans:Philip_Thompson said:FPT
Nobody insulted women. The fact you are substituting another word for women just shows you know that insulting women is worse than what was really said. Don't be dishonest.TOPPING said:
Yes you are right. Insulting women, or applauding it, is great prep for a life of wedded bliss.Philip_Thompson said:
I never said he's doing a ok. I just thought your logic was awful.TOPPING said:
Yeah good hair to split. Even Theresa slapped him down but to you lot he's doing a-ok.Philip_Thompson said:
Many Conservatives are women. If someone insults Conservatives does that mean they're insulting women?TOPPING said:
He was insulting feminists many of whom are women. People of course dismiss feminism out of hand without thought of the principles behind it like drunk Ukippers even some on here.RobD said:
Was he insulting women because they are women?TOPPING said:
I think insulting women because they are women can be seen as misogynist.RobD said:
Does what he said really constitute misogyny?TOPPING said:
Championing a potentially misogynist sentiment in advance of your own wedding (assuming he is marrying a woman) is I don't think well-judged.Pulpstar said:
What's his wedding got to do with anything ?TOPPING said:
Max not a good look especially in advance of your wedding.MaxPB said:
I like him even more now, Raab4Leader!TheScreamingEagles said:
That's a judgement on you. Not Theresa or anyone else.
Any -Ism can and should stand on its own two feet not need to be substituted for another word.0 -
May inherited a very difficult position. Which she proceeded to make much worse.Philip_Thompson said:
If only we were three years after the last election at a point where it might be reasonable to call another one. Or had an overall working majority.anothernick said:
It is. But even if May was reelected under such a process positions on Brexit are now so entrenched that she would be still be unable to make progress. It is not conceivable that the Tory Party can come up with any Brexit deal that will go through Parliament under May or any other leader.rpjs said:
Isn’t that exactly what Major did?Jonathan said:Could she technically resign and stand? IE Without a confidence vote?
May deserves nothing but contempt for what she has done.
But an election now seems likely to produce a very similar result to last time. I don't see how this would help move us forward.0 -
Is the political version of Schroedinger’s cat where you lock the Tory party in a box along with John Redwood? The experiment began in the 90s and the box is only being opened now.AlastairMeeks said:
Can we just not open the box? Win/win.dixiedean said:Schrodinger's Boris.
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Lemmings.TheScreamingEagles said:And I really regret helping Andrea Jenkyns win.
It might have been better if Ed Balls had held on.
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Penny for David Miliband's thoughts...
This is how you organise a coup. Or not.0 -
Why can't it be both?TheScreamingEagles said:Where’s Wally?
Is the Tory party a government or a comedy show?0 -
On topic some bookies also don’t understand understand the rules on impeachment and a successful conviction.0
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There would have to be explicit manifestos on both sides, and candidates would have to swear blood oathsanothernick said:But an election now seems likely to produce a very similar result to last time. I don't see how this would help move us forward.
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And why would the PM's chief of staff admit to not knowing? Boris is being smoked out.Sandpit said:
How does the PM’s chief of staff not know where the foreign secretary is?Philip_Thompson said:Surely if Boris hasn't gone to COBRA he has to resign now? Or feign a serious illness.
It's either that or be sacked surely?0 -
On topic, I can only assume that Paddy Power are defining a 'leadership contest' and the combination of the two stages of the VoNC and (contingently) the subsequent election i.e. they would pay out if there's a VoNC and May wins. However, check the rules carefully (I'm at work and can't log in).0
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What the government need to do is wait for England to be winning 3-0 in the World Cup Final, and with a minute of injury time to go, substitute themselves en mass onto the pitch. Boris in goal, May as the captain, and Javid as a mid-fielder.
They can then say they on the world cup final, and they'll have a massive vote.
Can anyone see any flaws in my stunningly cunning plan?0 -
I’d be saying a lot more stronger things but then I’m a gentleman and you can’t talk about women like that.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Lemmings.TheScreamingEagles said:And I really regret helping Andrea Jenkyns win.
It might have been better if Ed Balls had held on.
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1016105706519396352?s=21
Safe to say she’s a bit Mark Reckless in my eyes.0 -
Trump will appoint Kavanagh QC to the court this evening I think.0
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Andrew Bridgen still tops the list but she’s catching up fast.TheScreamingEagles said:And I really regret helping Andrea Jenkyns win.
It might have been better if Ed Balls had held on.
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86.6% of votes in 2017 were for parties pledging to implement Brexit. On manifestoes pledging it would be outside the Customs Union.Scott_P said:
There would have to be explicit manifestos on both sides, and candidates would have to swear blood oathsanothernick said:But an election now seems likely to produce a very similar result to last time. I don't see how this would help move us forward.
The voters might just think these same MPs have already given blood oaths.0 -
To state the obvious the ultras on both sides of the Tory party are acting as parties within a party. Gove at least has his head screwed on recognising Brexit is better achieved by steady evolution than revolution.TheScreamingEagles said:And I really regret helping Andrea Jenkyns win.
It might have been better if Ed Balls had held on.
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Her Tory MP husband sounds like a charmer too.TheScreamingEagles said:
I’d be saying a lot more stronger things but then I’m a gentleman and you can’t talk about women like that.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Lemmings.TheScreamingEagles said:And I really regret helping Andrea Jenkyns win.
It might have been better if Ed Balls had held on.
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1016105706519396352?s=21
Safe to say she’s a bit Mark Reckless in my eyes.
https://thebristolcable.org/2017/03/ice-cream-wage-scandal/0 -
Russian fans to back England after Croatian star Domagoj Vida's 'Glory to Ukraine' chant
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/2018/07/09/russian-fans-back-england-croatian-stars-glory-ukraine-chant/0 -
Jeremy would promise 'A workers Brexit, for the many not the few, protecting jobs & living standards and taking us out of the customs union and single market, while negotiating barrier free access to both and enabling his widespread nationalisation plans'. Didn't you know?Scott_P said:
There would have to be explicit manifestos on both sides, and candidates would have to swear blood oathsanothernick said:But an election now seems likely to produce a very similar result to last time. I don't see how this would help move us forward.
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Yeah, they would have to explain it this time.MarqueeMark said:86.6% of votes in 2017 were for parties pledging to implement Brexit. On manifestoes pledging it would be outside the Customs Union.
Brexit means Brexit is not gonna fly.0 -
Actually the "revolution" already happened in the polling booths of Britain on 23rd June 2016.Norm said:
To state the obvious the ultras on both sides of the Tory party are acting as parties within a party. Gove at least has his head screwed on recognising Brexit is better achieved by steady evolution than revolution.TheScreamingEagles said:And I really regret helping Andrea Jenkyns win.
It might have been better if Ed Balls had held on.
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1016105706519396352?s=21
Politics just hasn't caught up yet.0 -
F1: apparently Gasly got a penalty, so Perez got the final point.0
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JosiasJessop said:
What the government need to do is wait for England to be winning 3-0 in the World Cup Final, and with a minute of injury time to go, substitute themselves en mass onto the pitch. Boris in goal, May as the captain, and Javid as a mid-fielder.
They can then say they on the world cup final, and they'll have a massive vote.
Can anyone see any flaws in my stunningly cunning plan?
Belgium would score 4 goals in under a minute...
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Yebbut it might get him into office. We are dealing with an electorate in the mood to hear what it wants to hear. All they know at the moment is thatCarlottaVance said:
Jeremy would promise 'A workers Brexit, for the many not the few, protecting jobs & living standards and taking us out of the customs union and single market, while negotiating barrier free access to both and enabling his widespread nationalisation plans'. Didn't you know?Scott_P said:
There would have to be explicit manifestos on both sides, and candidates would have to swear blood oathsanothernick said:But an election now seems likely to produce a very similar result to last time. I don't see how this would help move us forward.
the Cons are messing Brexit upEngland have a chance to get to the World Cup final . Why not give someone else a chance?0 -
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I went to Silverstone yesterday. I nearly fell asleep half way through the race. I swear they were all coasting between Stowe and Vale.Morris_Dancer said:F1: apparently Gasly got a penalty, so Perez got the final point.
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Why is Ruth there when she's not an MP?Scott_P said:0 -
What’s interesting about Raab’s comment is that even May wasn’t particularly pleased by it. Re how many people generally identify as feminists, tbh I think the electorate seem to be weary of nailing their colours to mask on anything and adopting a clear cut label for their beliefs. You rarely get people identifying as left or right wing, most will say they are centrists. Even though quite a few ‘centrists’ I’ve met are clearly ideological in the way they view things, even though they don’t realise it. Their views are often quite conservative, especially on cultural issues, yet they reject being called conservative or right wing.0
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Interesting. Javid beats Hunt - the two likeliest to make it through...Scott_P said:0 -
Dubious about the polling - but what a great graphic to represent who wins and who loses.Scott_P said:0 -
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Williamson outperforming expectation by getting on the list.Scott_P said:0 -
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I'd be prepared to bet that at least four of those won't even run and quite possibly more.Scott_P said:0 -
IF this tweet re: Boris not showing up is true, then May needs to fire him. Not let him choose the moment of his resignation/pledge of undying loyalty.0
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Indeed. One assumes that the Chief of Staff has a contact at Special Branch, and if they don’t know where Boris is then there’s a senior plod getting fired today!OblitusSumMe said:
And why would the PM's chief of staff admit to not knowing? Boris is being smoked out.Sandpit said:
How does the PM’s chief of staff not know where the foreign secretary is?Philip_Thompson said:Surely if Boris hasn't gone to COBRA he has to resign now? Or feign a serious illness.
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Mr. 86, be fair, the last quarter was absolutely fantastic.0
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I'm with you on Brexit. Just disagree on how we get there. Achieving a successful economic Brexit simultaneously with an effective political Brexit is asking too much. Get out of the EU political structures plus the CAP and CFP first, pause for breath as a member of the EEA and sometime down the line consider where we want to go next.GIN1138 said:
Actually the "revolution" already happened in the polling booths of Britain on 23rd June 2016.Norm said:
To state the obvious the ultras on both sides of the Tory party are acting as parties within a party. Gove at least has his head screwed on recognising Brexit is better achieved by steady evolution than revolution.TheScreamingEagles said:And I really regret helping Andrea Jenkyns win.
It might have been better if Ed Balls had held on.
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/1016105706519396352?s=21
Politics just hasn't caught up yet.0 -
That YouGov model makes no sense, JRM beats all of the other contenders, but that means there must be a huge shy-JRM contingent among the members because very few are going to vote for him that I know.0
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The EU have about three days to compose a coherent response which isn't "Gotcha!", "Nowhere near good enough" , or "Tell us what you want."
I don't honestly think they are capable of doing so. Their response or lack of it may well change the political picture.0 -
Wait, we are hosting this summit but we might not have a Foreign Secretary to take part in it. This is not conducive to being taken seriously by the rest of the world. We need to stop navel-gazing.Scott_P said:0 -
Entertaining, but Fake News....Scott_P said:0 -
The white paper hasn’t been published yet.CD13 said:The EU have about three days to compose a coherent response which isn't "Gotcha!", "Nowhere near good enough" , or "Tell us what you want."
I don't honestly think they are capable of doing so. Their response or lack of it may well change the political picture.0 -
Of course Boris has chosen now to go missing....0
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Well, you're extrapolating from a biased data-set! In my experience the JRM fans are not always the most active campaigners.MaxPB said:That YouGov model makes no sense, JRM beats all of the other contenders, but that means there must be a huge shy-JRM contingent among the members because very few are going to vote for him that I know.
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You are Nick Timothy.JosiasJessop said:What the government need to do is wait for England to be winning 3-0 in the World Cup Final, and with a minute of injury time to go, substitute themselves en mass onto the pitch. Boris in goal, May as the captain, and Javid as a mid-fielder.
They can then say they on the world cup final, and they'll have a massive vote.
Can anyone see any flaws in my stunningly cunning plan?0 -
I'd be annoyed if I was Bottas. He might not have won had he pitted, but he'd definitely have made the podium.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 86, be fair, the last quarter was absolutely fantastic.
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If that is the case, then May needs to not just sack him but go nuclear. None of this "asked to resign" BS: get Brenda to dismiss him from office. And strip him of his Privy Council membership too.Philip_Thompson said:Surely if Boris hasn't gone to COBRA he has to resign now? Or feign a serious illness.
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The rest of the world stopped taking us seriously on 24th June 2016.OblitusSumMe said:
Wait, we are hosting this summit but we might not have a Foreign Secretary to take part in it. This is not conducive to being taken seriously by the rest of the world. We need to stop navel-gazing.Scott_P said:0 -
I guess that's possible, still don't see how he makes it to the final two or wins the members ballot. I also didn't know YouGov had started doing polls of the members on a regular basis.Tissue_Price said:
Well, you're extrapolating from a biased data-set! In my experience the JRM fans are not always the most active campaigners.MaxPB said:That YouGov model makes no sense, JRM beats all of the other contenders, but that means there must be a huge shy-JRM contingent among the members because very few are going to vote for him that I know.
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May needs to show her inner Corbyn :>0
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Not very secret...williamglenn said:0 -
Wonder how reliable YouGov are re Tory members - they have a good track record when it comes to polling Labour members.0
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A SCon invokes the v-word.
https://twitter.com/rossthomson_mp/status/1016301522941079552?s=210