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Obviously not. For one thing, I'm over 40 and it was in the test well before my time. But if they're unable to park then they quite clearly aren't competent enough to be allowed on the roads. For people to be allowed behind the wheel of near a ton of vehicle that can move at speeds of over 100mph, they ought to be able to do it accurately at 2mph.Richard_Tyndall said:
Parking only became part of the driving test over the last couple of decades. Are you saying everyone over the age of 40 is a bad driver,?JonnyJimmy said:
Parking is easy and should be mastered before being allowed on the roads. Telling me about other worse things doesn't make incompetent parkers ok on the roads. I don't give a molecular piece of shit if you think I'm embarrassing myself, intelligent self confessed incompetents like Meeks should be responsible enough to learn to control a vehicle competently before they risk others' lives on real roads.
Meeks may be exaggerating his incompetence. That's up to him.
It should be as embarrassing for a driver to say they can't park as it would be for a lawyer to say they can't read.0 -
I would say that despite some boring games this World Cup has been a success and good PR for Russia despite my previous reservationsFoxy said:
I have semi final tickets for the other half of the tournamentBig_G_NorthWales said:
I thought you were a Brussels europhileFoxy said:
Perhaps have a group draw after each of the final group games.alex. said:
That's a bit misleading. The group winners are very rarely decided by the last game. But most teams can't win the group at that point. Which in itself would have an impact on how the final round of group games progress. Teams would be terrified of losing the first game, because that would effectively put qualification out of their hands almost before the tournament has started.tlg86 said:
With the exception of the Croatia group, all of the other groups in this tournament would have come down to the final game. And teams wouldn't be terrified of losing their first match. But wins would be critical.another_richard said:
There would be too many dead games and teams would be terrified of losing their first match.tlg86 said:
Said for years:TheScreamingEagles said:
Eight groups of four
Only the group winners qualify
Two more groups of four
Group winners play in the final
Team with best record in the groups stages win if the final is a draw after extra time.
Even worse is the idea of groups leading direct to the final That leads to outcomes like Argentina-Peru in 1978.
Bugger, Belgium score...
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And we don't have that already?alex. said:
Given that no groups were decided before the final game, 16 had a chance by definition. How many had the outcome completely in their own hands and not dependent on other results? Possibly only Belgium/England.tlg86 said:
So in this tournament, 20 of the 32 teams had a chance of winning their group in the final game.alex. said:
That's a bit misleading. The group winners are very rarely decided by the last game. But most teams can't win the group at that point. Which in itself would have an impact on how the final round of group games progress. Teams would be terrified of losing the first game, because that would effectively put qualification out of their hands almost before the tournament has started.tlg86 said:
With the exception of the Croatia group, all of the other groups in this tournament would have come down to the final game. And teams wouldn't be terrified of losing their first match. But wins would be critical.another_richard said:
There would be too many dead games and teams would be terrified of losing their first match.tlg86 said:
Said for years:TheScreamingEagles said:
Eight groups of four
Only the group winners qualify
Two more groups of four
Group winners play in the final
Team with best record in the groups stages win if the final is a draw after extra time.
Even worse is the idea of groups leading direct to the final That leads to outcomes like Argentina-Peru in 1978.
As for 1978, that was before the final groups games were played at the same time. And Peru were threatened before the game.
Regardless of concurrency of games, when sides have nothing to play for there is always the danger of collusion, suspicion of collusion or accusations of collusion. Arg-Peru was just an extreme example. It is not difficult to create situations where a team needs a win, or even only a draw, against opposition who have nothing to play for. And that is not a good thing.0 -
And I used to think you'd never top your posts accusing anyone who thought Damian Green might have to resign for being a letch was to accuse them of being a pervert.JonnyJimmy said:
Obviously not. For one thing, I'm over 40 and it was in the test well before my time. But if they're unable to park then they quite clearly aren't competent enough to be allowed on the roads. For people to be allowed behind the wheel of near a ton of vehicle that can move at speeds of over 100mph, they ought to be able to do it accurately at 2mph.
It should be as embarrassing for a driver to say they can't park as it would be for a lawyer to say they can't read.
How wrong was I.
I suggest you take a break from this line of discussion.0 -
Could see that from the office, smoke behind the transmitter as we looked. Does that still carry Freeview - it might be going off soon?dixiedean said:Off topic but another moor fire in the NW, on Winter Hill between Bolton and Blackburn. Not sure GM fire can cope without rain soon.
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That depends on how you define 'parking'.JonnyJimmy said:
Obviously not. For one thing, I'm over 40 and it was in the test well before my time. But if they're unable to park then they quite clearly aren't competent enough to be allowed on the roads. For people to be allowed behind the wheel of near a ton of vehicle that can move at speeds of over 100mph, they ought to be able to do it accurately at 2mph.Richard_Tyndall said:
Parking only became part of the driving test over the last couple of decades. Are you saying everyone over the age of 40 is a bad driver,?JonnyJimmy said:
Parking is easy and should be mastered before being allowed on the roads. Telling me about other worse things doesn't make incompetent parkers ok on the roads. I don't give a molecular piece of shit if you think I'm embarrassing myself, intelligent self confessed incompetents like Meeks should be responsible enough to learn to control a vehicle competently before they risk others' lives on real roads.
Meeks may be exaggerating his incompetence. That's up to him.
It should be as embarrassing for a driver to say they can't park as it would be for a lawyer to say they can't read.
Its something at which some people are better at than others and something which is easier to do in one type of car than another.0 -
Much less so for obvious reasons as was stated.tlg86 said:
And we don't have that already?alex. said:
Given that no groups were decided before the final game, 16 had a chance by definition. How many had the outcome completely in their own hands and not dependent on other results? Possibly only Belgium/England.tlg86 said:
So in this tournament, 20 of the 32 teams had a chance of winning their group in the final game.alex. said:
That's a bit misleading. The group winners are very rarely decided by the last game. But most teams can't win the group at that point. Which in itself would have an impact on how the final round of group games progress. Teams would be terrified of losing the first game, because that would effectively put qualification out of their hands almost before the tournament has started.tlg86 said:
With the exception of the Croatia group, all of the other groups in this tournament would have come down to the final game. And teams wouldn't be terrified of losing their first match. But wins would be critical.another_richard said:
There would be too many dead games and teams would be terrified of losing their first match.tlg86 said:
Said for years:TheScreamingEagles said:
Eight groups of four
Only the group winners qualify
Two more groups of four
Group winners play in the final
Team with best record in the groups stages win if the final is a draw after extra time.
Even worse is the idea of groups leading direct to the final That leads to outcomes like Argentina-Peru in 1978.
As for 1978, that was before the final groups games were played at the same time. And Peru were threatened before the game.
Regardless of concurrency of games, when sides have nothing to play for there is always the danger of collusion, suspicion of collusion or accusations of collusion. Arg-Peru was just an extreme example. It is not difficult to create situations where a team needs a win, or even only a draw, against opposition who have nothing to play for. And that is not a good thing.
1) two qualifiers means the number of teams with nothing to play for is very small
2) Most teams who have something to play for still have qualification in their own hands
3) We only have one group stage, and knockouts for the business end of the tournament. You want two group stages, both with one qualifier.
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Marcus Rashford is overrated, can understand why Jose doesn't play him.0
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Did I hear the match commentator correctly when he said Fellaini is to sign a new five year deal at United and if so, did no one want him
And Marcus - what a miss0 -
A new contract, not a five year one, he's been there five years.Big_G_NorthWales said:Did I hear the match commentator correctly when he said Fellaini is to sign a new five year deal at United and if so, did no one want him
And Marcus - what a miss
United are also signing Lee Grant.0 -
So not fake news then?another_richard said:
Is Australia expecting a naval war with someone in the next few years ?Big_G_NorthWales said:Talking of fake news is Guido's announcement that Australia has placed a 35 billion dollar order with UK to build their naval ships authentic. Not seen it anywhere else so question the veracity in this climate
That sounds like total bollox.0 -
Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
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Apparently notMarqueeMark said:
So not fake news then?another_richard said:
Is Australia expecting a naval war with someone in the next few years ?Big_G_NorthWales said:Talking of fake news is Guido's announcement that Australia has placed a 35 billion dollar order with UK to build their naval ships authentic. Not seen it anywhere else so question the veracity in this climate
That sounds like total bollox.0 -
Jared Diamond claims that no one has ever topped up the engine oil in a car in Papua New Guinea, because the cars are all Mercedes and the probability is 100% that they will be written off in a crash before the oil level drops to the line.AnneJGP said:
A much-travelled colleague once told me Algeria is worst of all.MarqueeMark said:
Italy is a doddle.TheScreamingEagles said:
Have you driven in Italy?MarqueeMark said:Worst place I've ever driven is San Francisco. Pot-head hippies and junctions on blind crests of hills.....
Every lane is an overtaking lane and well traffic lights are generally seen as ornaments, not something to be followed.
I remember Tokyo. The taxi drivers used to put on the headgear and prepare to die for the Emperor......
He also spoke of places where people routinely drive full pelt through red lights, but behave much more cautiously at green lights, because of all the mad idiots who crash the red.
Good evening, everyone. I hope you are all enjoying the football.0 -
WhoTheScreamingEagles said:
A new contract, not a five year one, he's been there five years.Big_G_NorthWales said:Did I hear the match commentator correctly when he said Fellaini is to sign a new five year deal at United and if so, did no one want him
And Marcus - what a miss
United are also signing Lee Grant.0 -
You have a terrible memory. I opposed perverse misuse of information by the cops, and called people perverts explicitly in the sense of perverting the course of justice for supporting such perversion.TheScreamingEagles said:
And I used to think you'd never top your posts accusing anyone who thought Damian Green might have to resign for being a letch was to accuse them of being a pervert.JonnyJimmy said:
Obviously not. For one thing, I'm over 40 and it was in the test well before my time. But if they're unable to park then they quite clearly aren't competent enough to be allowed on the roads. For people to be allowed behind the wheel of near a ton of vehicle that can move at speeds of over 100mph, they ought to be able to do it accurately at 2mph.
It should be as embarrassing for a driver to say they can't park as it would be for a lawyer to say they can't read.
How wrong was I.
I suggest you take a break from this line of discussion.
I'll just pray that old antifrank was exaggerating.
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He's one of the endless line of young England footballers who look great as a 'super-sub' teenager but wont as a regular player in his twenties.TheScreamingEagles said:Marcus Rashford is overrated, can understand why Jose doesn't play him.
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I've had a tiny lay on Belgium. I rather suspect Martinez was willing Radford to score there.TheScreamingEagles said:Marcus Rashford is overrated, can understand why Jose doesn't play him.
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Group B - Morocco outalex. said:Much less so for obvious reasons as was stated.
1) two qualifiers means the number of teams with nothing to play for is very small
2) Most teams who have something to play for still have qualification in their own hands
3) We only have one group stage, and knockouts for the business end of the tournament. You want two group stages, both with one qualifier.
Group D - Croatia almost assured of first place
Group E - Costa Rica out
Group H - Poland out
So half the groups had once team with nothing/little to play for playing another team with something to play for.
I don't like the knockout phase of tournaments because teams would rather lose on penalties than risk trying to win before it gets to them. If we must have knockout football then lets have penalties after 90 minutes followed by 30 minutes of extra time.0 -
Did you not want Ronaldo and Bale together and you get Fellani and Grant? Be happy Jose knows what he is doing when parking the bus and playing negative football.Big_G_NorthWales said:
WhoTheScreamingEagles said:
A new contract, not a five year one, he's been there five years.Big_G_NorthWales said:Did I hear the match commentator correctly when he said Fellaini is to sign a new five year deal at United and if so, did no one want him
And Marcus - what a miss
United are also signing Lee Grant.0 -
Stoke's reserve goalie.Big_G_NorthWales said:
WhoTheScreamingEagles said:
A new contract, not a five year one, he's been there five years.Big_G_NorthWales said:Did I hear the match commentator correctly when he said Fellaini is to sign a new five year deal at United and if so, did no one want him
And Marcus - what a miss
United are also signing Lee Grant.0 -
If the contract is worth say £350m then its only 99% bollox.MarqueeMark said:
So not fake news then?another_richard said:
Is Australia expecting a naval war with someone in the next few years ?Big_G_NorthWales said:Talking of fake news is Guido's announcement that Australia has placed a 35 billion dollar order with UK to build their naval ships authentic. Not seen it anywhere else so question the veracity in this climate
That sounds like total bollox.0 -
On topic: Macron met Conte on Tuesday. This may not necessarily play the way we think - the rejected economics minister, Savona, has a fairly orthodox view on the Euro development - more Brussels control for fiscal transfers would be welcome by him. His scepticism of the Euro is based on a view that that will not happen.
But who knows: Macron + Savona + new German government?0 -
twitter.com/Blaynos14/status/10124144813963714560
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They've long been a bit nervous of Indonesia, and they need serious naval kit to keep up their no landing for migrants policy.another_richard said:
Is Australia expecting a naval war with someone in the next few years ?Big_G_NorthWales said:Talking of fake news is Guido's announcement that Australia has placed a 35 billion dollar order with UK to build their naval ships authentic. Not seen it anywhere else so question the veracity in this climate
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I know, it made you look like an idiot.JonnyJimmy said:
You have a terrible memory. I opposed perverse misuse of information by the cops, and called people perverts explicitly in the sense of perverting the course of justice for supporting such perversion.TheScreamingEagles said:
And I used to think you'd never top your posts accusing anyone who thought Damian Green might have to resign for being a letch was to accuse them of being a pervert.JonnyJimmy said:
Obviously not. For one thing, I'm over 40 and it was in the test well before my time. But if they're unable to park then they quite clearly aren't competent enough to be allowed on the roads. For people to be allowed behind the wheel of near a ton of vehicle that can move at speeds of over 100mph, they ought to be able to do it accurately at 2mph.
It should be as embarrassing for a driver to say they can't park as it would be for a lawyer to say they can't read.
How wrong was I.
I suggest you take a break from this line of discussion.
I'll just pray that old antifrank was exaggerating.
Just like today.
You have unhealthy obsessions, just like a pervert.0 -
Not fused about Ronald or Bale as I do not think they really are committed to play for Unitedralphmalph said:
Did you not want Ronaldo and Bale together and you get Fellani and Grant? Be happy Jose knows what he is doing when parking the bus and playing negative football.Big_G_NorthWales said:
WhoTheScreamingEagles said:
A new contract, not a five year one, he's been there five years.Big_G_NorthWales said:Did I hear the match commentator correctly when he said Fellaini is to sign a new five year deal at United and if so, did no one want him
And Marcus - what a miss
United are also signing Lee Grant.
And England about to bring on Welbeck to cause terror in the Belgium defence0 -
So 3 teams with nothing to play for (except pride) - and none of whom lost their final game - versus at least 12 teams with nothing to play for under your model. I would say that meets my definition of very small.tlg86 said:
Group B - Morocco outalex. said:Much less so for obvious reasons as was stated.
1) two qualifiers means the number of teams with nothing to play for is very small
2) Most teams who have something to play for still have qualification in their own hands
3) We only have one group stage, and knockouts for the business end of the tournament. You want two group stages, both with one qualifier.
Group D - Croatia almost assured of first place
Group E - Costa Rica out
Group H - Poland out
So half the groups had once team with nothing/little to play for playing another team with something to play for.
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Fire report: at least 7 or 8 active smoke fronts on Saddleworth moor just now from 1 mile north of Stalybridge and now smoking north of Greenfield, a separate hill. Reports of a large fire between Huddersfield and Slaithwaite, but not seen that from train.Pro_Rata said:
Could see that from the office, smoke behind the transmitter as we looked. Does that still carry Freeview - it might be going off soon?dixiedean said:Off topic but another moor fire in the NW, on Winter Hill between Bolton and Blackburn. Not sure GM fire can cope without rain soon.
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I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure allowed.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.0 -
Thanks - assume a long term signingTheScreamingEagles said:
Stoke's reserve goalie.Big_G_NorthWales said:
WhoTheScreamingEagles said:
A new contract, not a five year one, he's been there five years.Big_G_NorthWales said:Did I hear the match commentator correctly when he said Fellaini is to sign a new five year deal at United and if so, did no one want him
And Marcus - what a miss
United are also signing Lee Grant.0 -
He's 35.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thanks - assume a long term signingTheScreamingEagles said:
Stoke's reserve goalie.Big_G_NorthWales said:
WhoTheScreamingEagles said:
A new contract, not a five year one, he's been there five years.Big_G_NorthWales said:Did I hear the match commentator correctly when he said Fellaini is to sign a new five year deal at United and if so, did no one want him
And Marcus - what a miss
United are also signing Lee Grant.0 -
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.0 -
This isn't really the match I was hoping for.0
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Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?0
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Really - I have never heard of himTheScreamingEagles said:
He's 35.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thanks - assume a long term signingTheScreamingEagles said:
Stoke's reserve goalie.Big_G_NorthWales said:
WhoTheScreamingEagles said:
A new contract, not a five year one, he's been there five years.Big_G_NorthWales said:Did I hear the match commentator correctly when he said Fellaini is to sign a new five year deal at United and if so, did no one want him
And Marcus - what a miss
United are also signing Lee Grant.0 -
williamglenn said:
What tosh. How often do you reverse around a corner at 100mph? It’s a completely different skill.JonnyJimmy said:
Obviously not. For one thing, I'm over 40 and it was in the test well before my time. But if they're unable to park then they quite clearly aren't competent enough to be allowed on the roads. For people to be allowed behind the wheel of near a ton of vehicle that can move at speeds of over 100mph, they ought to be able to do it accurately at 2mph.Richard_Tyndall said:
Parking only became part of the driving test over the last couple of decades. Are you saying everyone over the age of 40 is a bad driver,?JonnyJimmy said:
Parking is easy and should be mastered before being allowed on the roads. Telling me about other worse things doesn't make incompetent parkers ok on the roads. I don't give a molecular piece of shit if you think I'm embarrassing myself, intelligent self confessed incompetents like Meeks should be responsible enough to learn to control a vehicle competently before they risk others' lives on real roads.
Meeks may be exaggerating his incompetence. That's up to him.
It should be as embarrassing for a driver to say they can't park as it would be for a lawyer to say they can't read.0 -
Croatia did their bit, and South Korea did too (they were out by the time they got their goals).alex. said:
So 3 teams with nothing to play for (except pride) - and none of whom lost their final game - versus at least 12 teams with nothing to play for under your model. I would say that meets my definition of very small.tlg86 said:
Group B - Morocco outalex. said:Much less so for obvious reasons as was stated.
1) two qualifiers means the number of teams with nothing to play for is very small
2) Most teams who have something to play for still have qualification in their own hands
3) We only have one group stage, and knockouts for the business end of the tournament. You want two group stages, both with one qualifier.
Group D - Croatia almost assured of first place
Group E - Costa Rica out
Group H - Poland out
So half the groups had once team with nothing/little to play for playing another team with something to play for.
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So I don't see why you're worried about teams with nothing to play for. And in the case of Groups A, C and G, the final game is a winner takes all affair.0 -
She's rather relying first on them believing that, and second that they can politically accept signing off on such a deal, even if the alternative truly is a collapse in leaving at all (which is possible). Seems optimistic of her.williamglenn said:
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I know. And it saddens me.Philip_Thompson said:
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
I'd much rather talk about charging people for fuel according to how efficiently they drive. Say no tax for those who have averaged over 100mpg or equivalent since their last fill up, and an increasing scale of tax for those under that. We really ought to be tying to make people more efficient and that should be part of the test.0 -
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
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Because teams with nothing to play for can result in distorted outcomes. But it's not as bad for a tournament as dead games, especially in the latter stages of a tournament. There's no more pointless game than the third place play off!tlg86 said:
Croatia did their bit, and South Korea did too (they were out by the time they got their goals).alex. said:
So 3 teams with nothing to play for (except pride) - and none of whom lost their final game - versus at least 12 teams with nothing to play for under your model. I would say that meets my definition of very small.tlg86 said:
Group B - Morocco outalex. said:Much less so for obvious reasons as was stated.
1) two qualifiers means the number of teams with nothing to play for is very small
2) Most teams who have something to play for still have qualification in their own hands
3) We only have one group stage, and knockouts for the business end of the tournament. You want two group stages, both with one qualifier.
Group D - Croatia almost assured of first place
Group E - Costa Rica out
Group H - Poland out
So half the groups had once team with nothing/little to play for playing another team with something to play for.
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So I don't see why you're worried about teams with nothing to play for. And in the case of Groups A, C and G, the final game is a winner takes all affair.
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If you're happy as a passenger with a driver who can't reverse at 2mph, good luck in any direction at 100mph.not_on_fire said:williamglenn said:
What tosh. How often do you reverse around a corner at 100mph? It’s a completely different skill.JonnyJimmy said:
Obviously not. For one thing, I'm over 40 and it was in the test well before my time. But if they're unable to park then they quite clearly aren't competent enough to be allowed on the roads. For people to be allowed behind the wheel of near a ton of vehicle that can move at speeds of over 100mph, they ought to be able to do it accurately at 2mph.Richard_Tyndall said:
Parking only became part of the driving test over the last couple of decades. Are you saying everyone over the age of 40 is a bad driver,?JonnyJimmy said:
Parking is easy and should be mastered before being allowed on the roads. Telling me about other worse things doesn't make incompetent parkers ok on the roads. I don't give a molecular piece of shit if you think I'm embarrassing myself, intelligent self confessed incompetents like Meeks should be responsible enough to learn to control a vehicle competently before they risk others' lives on real roads.
Meeks may be exaggerating his incompetence. That's up to him.
It should be as embarrassing for a driver to say they can't park as it would be for a lawyer to say they can't read.0 -
100 mpg - really - I got 54 mpg on my recent trip to the North of Scotland (1200 miles) and was well pleasedJonnyJimmy said:
I know. And it saddens me.Philip_Thompson said:
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
I'd much rather talk about charging people for fuel according to how efficiently they drive. Say no tax for those who have averaged over 100mpg or equivalent since their last fill up, and an increasing scale of tax for those under that. We really ought to be tying to make people more efficient and that should be part of the test.0 -
Given that most of the cost of fuel is tax, then we do tax people by how efficiently they drive.JonnyJimmy said:
I know. And it saddens me.Philip_Thompson said:
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
I'd much rather talk about charging people for fuel according to how efficiently they drive. Say no tax for those who have averaged over 100mpg or equivalent since their last fill up, and an increasing scale of tax for those under that. We really ought to be tying to make people more efficient and that should be part of the test.0 -
We'll remind you of that when Belgium lose to Brazil......IanB2 said:This isn't really the match I was hoping for.
Still time for a strategic Belgian own goal though.0 -
100 mpg is pretty much impossible for all but a handful of cars and commuting routes !JonnyJimmy said:
I know. And it saddens me.Philip_Thompson said:
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
I'd much rather talk about charging people for fuel according to how efficiently they drive. Say no tax for those who have averaged over 100mpg or equivalent since their last fill up, and an increasing scale of tax for those under that. We really ought to be tying to make people more efficient and that should be part of the test.
I am on just under 60 long term and that is way higher than average methinks.0 -
Can you please stop being such a bore on this topic?JonnyJimmy said:
If you're happy as a passenger with a driver who can't reverse at 2mph, good luck in any direction at 100mph.not_on_fire said:williamglenn said:
What tosh. How often do you reverse around a corner at 100mph? It’s a completely different skill.JonnyJimmy said:
Obviously not. For one thing, I'm over 40 and it was in the test well before my time. But if they're unable to park then they quite clearly aren't competent enough to be allowed on the roads. For people to be allowed behind the wheel of near a ton of vehicle that can move at speeds of over 100mph, they ought to be able to do it accurately at 2mph.Richard_Tyndall said:
Parking only became part of the driving test over the last couple of decades. Are you saying everyone over the age of 40 is a bad driver,?JonnyJimmy said:
Parking is easy and should be mastered before being allowed on the roads. Telling me about other worse things doesn't make incompetent parkers ok on the roads. I don't give a molecular piece of shit if you think I'm embarrassing myself, intelligent self confessed incompetents like Meeks should be responsible enough to learn to control a vehicle competently before they risk others' lives on real roads.
Meeks may be exaggerating his incompetence. That's up to him.
It should be as embarrassing for a driver to say they can't park as it would be for a lawyer to say they can't read.
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Belgium clearly decided they want to win now.0
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Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
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Well that was crap. Almost as bad as Germany.0
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I average about 90mpg. I have got a little skoda fabia which helps, but the determination not to brake is the main thing. Braking wastes fuel. So does racing up hills to do it at the speed limit; there's usually free speed down the other side of the hill.Big_G_NorthWales said:
100 mpg - really - I got 54 mpg on my recent trip to the North of Scotland (1200 miles) and was well pleasedJonnyJimmy said:
I know. And it saddens me.Philip_Thompson said:
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
I'd much rather talk about charging people for fuel according to how efficiently they drive. Say no tax for those who have averaged over 100mpg or equivalent since their last fill up, and an increasing scale of tax for those under that. We really ought to be tying to make people more efficient and that should be part of the test.0 -
I'll remember that when you run me down on a pedestrian crossingJonnyJimmy said:
I average about 90mpg. I have got a little skoda fabia which helps, but the determination not to brake is the main thing. Braking wastes fuel. So does racing up hills to do it at the speed limit; there's usually free speed down the other side of the hill.Big_G_NorthWales said:
100 mpg - really - I got 54 mpg on my recent trip to the North of Scotland (1200 miles) and was well pleasedJonnyJimmy said:
I know. And it saddens me.Philip_Thompson said:
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
I'd much rather talk about charging people for fuel according to how efficiently they drive. Say no tax for those who have averaged over 100mpg or equivalent since their last fill up, and an increasing scale of tax for those under that. We really ought to be tying to make people more efficient and that should be part of the test.
Freewheeling down hills is not good driving.
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Poor as was the match - England could not deliver the final ball and Marcus should have scoredTOPPING said:
Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
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But wouldn't it be good to reward really efficient drivers?tlg86 said:
Given that most of the cost of fuel is tax, then we do tax people by how efficiently they drive.JonnyJimmy said:
I know. And it saddens me.Philip_Thompson said:
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
I'd much rather talk about charging people for fuel according to how efficiently they drive. Say no tax for those who have averaged over 100mpg or equivalent since their last fill up, and an increasing scale of tax for those under that. We really ought to be tying to make people more efficient and that should be part of the test.0 -
I think he actually played more minutes than any United out player last year. But he must be disappointed with that. He has not staked a claim. I think England should have played more of their first team and tried to win. They have lost momentum here.TheScreamingEagles said:Marcus Rashford is overrated, can understand why Jose doesn't play him.
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Remind us how good Sterling was against Tunisia and Panama.TOPPING said:
Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
Here are the player ratings:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44503705#tab-1
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We already get rewarded in our fuel bills.JonnyJimmy said:
But wouldn't it be good to reward really efficient drivers?tlg86 said:
Given that most of the cost of fuel is tax, then we do tax people by how efficiently they drive.JonnyJimmy said:
I know. And it saddens me.Philip_Thompson said:
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
I'd much rather talk about charging people for fuel according to how efficiently they drive. Say no tax for those who have averaged over 100mpg or equivalent since their last fill up, and an increasing scale of tax for those under that. We really ought to be tying to make people more efficient and that should be part of the test.0 -
If they lose to Columbia be prepared for endless 'what if' discussions.DavidL said:
I think he actually played more minutes than any United out player last year. But he must be disappointed with that. He has not staked a claim. I think England should have played more of their first team and tried to win. They have lost momentum here.TheScreamingEagles said:Marcus Rashford is overrated, can understand why Jose doesn't play him.
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Fucking hell remind me of the premier league top goal scorer rankings last season.another_richard said:
Remind us how good Sterling was against Tunisia and Panama.TOPPING said:
Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
Here are the player ratings:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44503705#tab-1
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With respect I have driven like that since passing my test in 1961 and have had no driving conviction of any kind or even a parking ticket. And 54mpg in my 5 series is very acceptableJonnyJimmy said:
I average about 90mpg. I have got a little skoda fabia which helps, but the determination not to brake is the main thing. Braking wastes fuel. So does racing up hills to do it at the speed limit; there's usually free speed down the other side of the hill.Big_G_NorthWales said:
100 mpg - really - I got 54 mpg on my recent trip to the North of Scotland (1200 miles) and was well pleasedJonnyJimmy said:
I know. And it saddens me.Philip_Thompson said:
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
I'd much rather talk about charging people for fuel according to how efficiently they drive. Say no tax for those who have averaged over 100mpg or equivalent since their last fill up, and an increasing scale of tax for those under that. We really ought to be tying to make people more efficient and that should be part of the test.0 -
That Australian contract is a great win for BAE.
If we can persuade the Canadians to buy the same thing but let us build them, it would be a tremendous vote of confidence in what’s left of British shipbuilding. Sterling weakness will help.0 -
I don't think my car is particularly special for economy. If it is it shouldn't be, and that's the point. If you get cheap fuel for driving efficiently it'll become a huge selling point for cars.Pulpstar said:
100 mpg is pretty much impossible for all but a handful of cars and commuting routes !JonnyJimmy said:
I know. And it saddens me.Philip_Thompson said:
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
I'd much rather talk about charging people for fuel according to how efficiently they drive. Say no tax for those who have averaged over 100mpg or equivalent since their last fill up, and an increasing scale of tax for those under that. We really ought to be tying to make people more efficient and that should be part of the test.
I am on just under 60 long term and that is way higher than average methinks.0 -
Winter Hill fire near the masts, but moving away. Unfortunately, football remained on,Pro_Rata said:
Fire report: at least 7 or 8 active smoke fronts on Saddleworth moor just now from 1 mile north of Stalybridge and now smoking north of Greenfield, a separate hill. Reports of a large fire between Huddersfield and Slaithwaite, but not seen that from train.Pro_Rata said:
Could see that from the office, smoke behind the transmitter as we looked. Does that still carry Freeview - it might be going off soon?dixiedean said:Off topic but another moor fire in the NW, on Winter Hill between Bolton and Blackburn. Not sure GM fire can cope without rain soon.
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I reckon we'll lose to Sweden.another_richard said:
If they lose to Columbia be prepared for endless 'what if' discussions.DavidL said:
I think he actually played more minutes than any United out player last year. But he must be disappointed with that. He has not staked a claim. I think England should have played more of their first team and tried to win. They have lost momentum here.TheScreamingEagles said:Marcus Rashford is overrated, can understand why Jose doesn't play him.
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It was a gift made in Leicester: Maguire to Vardy to Rashford.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Poor as was the match - England could not deliver the final ball and Marcus should have scoredTOPPING said:
Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
What worried me most was how lacking in creativity we looked. There didnt seem to be a plan second half. Why was Rashford moved to Right wingback? It was a half that needed Lingard on.0 -
Belgium must fancy their chances against Brazil. To be perfectly honest the Japan/Columbia results made the top/bottom half arguments slightly closer.another_richard said:
If they lose to Columbia be prepared for endless 'what if' discussions.DavidL said:
I think he actually played more minutes than any United out player last year. But he must be disappointed with that. He has not staked a claim. I think England should have played more of their first team and tried to win. They have lost momentum here.TheScreamingEagles said:Marcus Rashford is overrated, can understand why Jose doesn't play him.
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Good summary and frankly England were flat.Foxy said:
It was a gift made in Leicester: Maguire to Vardy to Rashford.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Poor as was the match - England could not deliver the final ball and Marcus should have scoredTOPPING said:
Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
What worried me most was how lacking in creativity we looked. There didnt seem to be a plan second half. Why was Rashford moved to Right wingback? It was a half that needed Lingard on.
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Remember, you use fuel with the clutch in, so don't coast!JonnyJimmy said:
I average about 90mpg. I have got a little skoda fabia which helps, but the determination not to brake is the main thing. Braking wastes fuel. So does racing up hills to do it at the speed limit; there's usually free speed down the other side of the hill.Big_G_NorthWales said:
100 mpg - really - I got 54 mpg on my recent trip to the North of Scotland (1200 miles) and was well pleasedJonnyJimmy said:
I know. And it saddens me.Philip_Thompson said:
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
I'd much rather talk about charging people for fuel according to how efficiently they drive. Say no tax for those who have averaged over 100mpg or equivalent since their last fill up, and an increasing scale of tax for those under that. We really ought to be tying to make people more efficient and that should be part of the test.0 -
What football Dixiedixiedean said:
Winter Hill fire near the masts, but moving away. Unfortunately, football remained on,Pro_Rata said:
Fire report: at least 7 or 8 active smoke fronts on Saddleworth moor just now from 1 mile north of Stalybridge and now smoking north of Greenfield, a separate hill. Reports of a large fire between Huddersfield and Slaithwaite, but not seen that from train.Pro_Rata said:
Could see that from the office, smoke behind the transmitter as we looked. Does that still carry Freeview - it might be going off soon?dixiedean said:Off topic but another moor fire in the NW, on Winter Hill between Bolton and Blackburn. Not sure GM fire can cope without rain soon.
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What's the point in leaving if we remain signed up to all rules but lose our MEPs? How is that taking back control?kle4 said:
She's rather relying first on them believing that, and second that they can politically accept signing off on such a deal, even if the alternative truly is a collapse in leaving at all (which is possible). Seems optimistic of her.williamglenn said:
Doesn't seem like a threat. Exit without a deal if need be and then seek a new deal from zero rather than over a barrel because we're petrified of a real exit.0 -
You do know that England is not the same as Manchester City ?TOPPING said:
Fucking hell remind me of the premier league top goal scorer rankings last season.another_richard said:
Remind us how good Sterling was against Tunisia and Panama.TOPPING said:
Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
Here are the player ratings:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44503705#tab-1
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I think that I will be watching Brazil vs Uruguay.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Good summary and frankly England were flat.Foxy said:
It was a gift made in Leicester: Maguire to Vardy to Rashford.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Poor as was the match - England could not deliver the final ball and Marcus should have scoredTOPPING said:
Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
What worried me most was how lacking in creativity we looked. There didnt seem to be a plan second half. Why was Rashford moved to Right wingback? It was a half that needed Lingard on.
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You do know that a goal scorer is a goal scorer.another_richard said:
You do know that England is not the same as Manchester City ?TOPPING said:
Fucking hell remind me of the premier league top goal scorer rankings last season.another_richard said:
Remind us how good Sterling was against Tunisia and Panama.TOPPING said:
Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
Here are the player ratings:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44503705#tab-1
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Be a good game.Foxy said:
I think that I will be watching Brazil vs Uruguay.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Good summary and frankly England were flat.Foxy said:
It was a gift made in Leicester: Maguire to Vardy to Rashford.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Poor as was the match - England could not deliver the final ball and Marcus should have scoredTOPPING said:
Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
What worried me most was how lacking in creativity we looked. There didnt seem to be a plan second half. Why was Rashford moved to Right wingback? It was a half that needed Lingard on.
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Coasting uses the same fuel as idling. Even if your car claims to be as efficient in gear as in neutral, it's not. Mine claims to but it isn't, I've checked. I use my gears to slow down, but that's because in gear you slow down. Coasting means you retain momentum, the most important thing to consider in fuel efficiency when driving.tlg86 said:
Remember, you use fuel with the clutch in, so don't coast!JonnyJimmy said:
I average about 90mpg. I have got a little skoda fabia which helps, but the determination not to brake is the main thing. Braking wastes fuel. So does racing up hills to do it at the speed limit; there's usually free speed down the other side of the hill.Big_G_NorthWales said:
100 mpg - really - I got 54 mpg on my recent trip to the North of Scotland (1200 miles) and was well pleasedJonnyJimmy said:
I know. And it saddens me.Philip_Thompson said:
If he's passed his test then he's qualified.JonnyJimmy said:
I have a major issue with incompetent drivers. I have aimed my broadside on it at Monsieur Meeks, and probably because he's such a massive, constant insulter of my side in the Brexit debate. But if he's not lying about his incompetence then he deserves it for driving while de facto unqualified, even if de jure.Pulpstar said:Joking aside @JonnyJimmy clearly has an unhealthy obsession with Alastair's parking abilities and the motive is Alastairs' forthright views on Brexit...
It is like Bercow and the ERG in parliament.
I'd much rather talk about charging people for fuel according to how efficiently they drive. Say no tax for those who have averaged over 100mpg or equivalent since their last fill up, and an increasing scale of tax for those under that. We really ought to be tying to make people more efficient and that should be part of the test.0 -
Pundits suggesting Pickford let that in. His performance smacked of a goalie being told to let one in.0
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It sounds like they're getting nine Type-26 like-ships. The Royal Navy is getting eight Type-26s.RoyalBlue said:That Australian contract is a great win for BAE.
If we can persuade the Canadians to buy the same thing but let us build them, it would be a tremendous vote of confidence in what’s left of British shipbuilding. Sterling weakness will help.0 -
That should be a crackerFoxy said:
I think that I will be watching Brazil vs Uruguay.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Good summary and frankly England were flat.Foxy said:
It was a gift made in Leicester: Maguire to Vardy to Rashford.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Poor as was the match - England could not deliver the final ball and Marcus should have scoredTOPPING said:
Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
What worried me most was how lacking in creativity we looked. There didnt seem to be a plan second half. Why was Rashford moved to Right wingback? It was a half that needed Lingard on.
And I really hope you have a fab time at the semi finals0 -
I'd say much closer rather than slightly so but we'll see.Pulpstar said:
Belgium must fancy their chances against Brazil. To be perfectly honest the Japan/Columbia results made the top/bottom half arguments slightly closer.another_richard said:
If they lose to Columbia be prepared for endless 'what if' discussions.DavidL said:
I think he actually played more minutes than any United out player last year. But he must be disappointed with that. He has not staked a claim. I think England should have played more of their first team and tried to win. They have lost momentum here.TheScreamingEagles said:Marcus Rashford is overrated, can understand why Jose doesn't play him.
Columbia are usually an erratic team, England really don't want to get them when they have a good day.0 -
So what is Sterling's goal scoring record for England ?TOPPING said:
You do know that a goal scorer is a goal scorer.another_richard said:
You do know that England is not the same as Manchester City ?TOPPING said:
Fucking hell remind me of the premier league top goal scorer rankings last season.another_richard said:
Remind us how good Sterling was against Tunisia and Panama.TOPPING said:
Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
Here are the player ratings:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44503705#tab-1
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/445517620 -
After seeing our second eleven,just hope we get no injuries to our first eleven.
Lallana and wilshere should have gone.0 -
That's as ridiculous as some of your theories about Brexit tbftlg86 said:Pundits suggesting Pickford let that in. His performance smacked of a goalie being told to let one in.
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It was Italy that sabotaged Junckers and Tusk's press conference tonight confirming all is not at all well in the EU and for Merkel especially0
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What theories about Brexit?Benpointer said:
That's as ridiculous as some of your theories about Brexit tbftlg86 said:Pundits suggesting Pickford let that in. His performance smacked of a goalie being told to let one in.
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https://twitter.com/albertonardelli/status/1012393989297885184?s=21Big_G_NorthWales said:It was Italy that sabotaged Junckers and Tusk's press conference tonight confirming all is not at all well in the EU and for Merkel especially
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I think Adnan Januzaj wanted to win, Martinez less so. He didn't look happy when Januzaj scored. He definitely looked like he had a point to prove with Martinez and to try and get a place in the team. Everyone else seemed much less bothered.alex. said:Looking forward to "expert" ITV pundits explain why Belgium really wanted to win after all, after telling us at half time how they had it all worked out to come second
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Great match to watch! Even Brazil vs Portugal would be great if Portugal somehow make it through.Foxy said:
I think that I will be watching Brazil vs Uruguay.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Good summary and frankly England were flat.Foxy said:
It was a gift made in Leicester: Maguire to Vardy to Rashford.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Poor as was the match - England could not deliver the final ball and Marcus should have scoredTOPPING said:
Remind me how good Rashford has been this evening.another_richard said:
Remind us of Sterling's goal scoring record for England.TOPPING said:Why did people want Rashford instead of Sterling again?
What worried me most was how lacking in creativity we looked. There didnt seem to be a plan second half. Why was Rashford moved to Right wingback? It was a half that needed Lingard on.
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Who !!!Tykejohnno said:After seeing our second eleven,just hope we get no injuries to our first eleven.
Lallana and wilshere should have gone.0 -
Arrogant and made a fool of himself because he would not say "Yes Angie, what ever you want." MIGA.williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/albertonardelli/status/1012393989297885184?s=21Big_G_NorthWales said:It was Italy that sabotaged Junckers and Tusk's press conference tonight confirming all is not at all well in the EU and for Merkel especially
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It shows how effectively a country can be heard within the EU. It is a live issue and clearly one in which countries are at different positions. It shows how the Eurobureacracy doesn't always get its way.williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/albertonardelli/status/1012393989297885184?s=21Big_G_NorthWales said:It was Italy that sabotaged Junckers and Tusk's press conference tonight confirming all is not at all well in the EU and for Merkel especially
From our perspective it will distract the EU27 from Brexit.0 -
Agree - Italy and others are going to cause big problems as could next years EU electionsralphmalph said:
Arrogant and made a fool of himself because he would not say "Yes Angie, what ever you want." MIGA.williamglenn said:
https://twitter.com/albertonardelli/status/1012393989297885184?s=21Big_G_NorthWales said:It was Italy that sabotaged Junckers and Tusk's press conference tonight confirming all is not at all well in the EU and for Merkel especially
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Er, sorry @tig86, think I got my PB posters muddled.tlg86 said:
What theories about Brexit?Benpointer said:
That's as ridiculous as some of your theories about Brexit tbftlg86 said:Pundits suggesting Pickford let that in. His performance smacked of a goalie being told to let one in.
(But the idea that Pickford let that in is still ridiculous.)0 -
Jeremy Corbyn, James Cleverly and Ed Balls amongst those analysing the football on Good Evening Britain now0
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Corbyn on ITV0
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Jonny with his leather motoring gloves boasting about his driving.JonnyJimmy said:
Parking is easy and should be mastered before being allowed on the roads. Telling me about other worse things doesn't make incompetent parkers ok on the roads. I don't give a molecular piece of shit if you think I'm embarrassing myself, intelligent self confessed incompetents like Meeks should be responsible enough to learn to control a vehicle competently before they risk others' lives on real roads.matt said:
Occasional post but STFU. You’re embarrassing yourself. The roads are full of people driving dangerously and oblivious to that. You’re obsessing about parking. I’m more concerned about the senile Brexit voters driving the wrong way down the M1.JonnyJimmy said:
That doesn't make him competent at steering. The reason that the manoeuvres are in the driving test isn't just because they're useful to learn; they're to prove you're capable of moving the car in tight spots, a crucial skill. "Rubbish at parking" Meeks knows he hasn't mastered control of his vehicle, and he knows it's irresponsible of him to take to the roads before he has.MarkHopkins said:JonnyJimmy said:
As would I. I drive very steadily in order to minimise my braking. I like to leave a substantial gap between me and the car in front, which sadly seems to encourage the lunatic Lewises so often behind me. But I also don't want to share roads with drivers who can't steer their cars accurately into parking spaces at very slow speeds. Hence my advice to Mr Meeks; learn to park it before you take your new car out.FeersumEnjineeya said:
I'd far rather share roadspace with cautious drivers who are aware of their own limitations and drive accordingly than with deluded fools who think they are Lewis bloody Hamilton!JonnyJimmy said:
He said he didn't fancy parking in a garage. He said he's rubbish at parking. Parking means controlling a car in occasionally tight spaces at a couple of miles per hour. If you haven't mastered that, you shouldn't be allowed to pass a driving test. I don't appreciate sharing full speed limit, narrow roads with people who can't master incredibly slow and simple manoeuvres.
Or buy a self-parking car.
This applies to all self-confessed bad parkers.
Meeks may be exaggerating his incompetence. That's up to him.0
