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Very good. History wil judge him kindlyEssexit said:Cleggxit
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Tory London meltdown. Is there a Tory voter left in London?0
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My £50 on LD sub 10 @ ~6/1 is looking good.socialliberal said:Lib Dems being wiped out in England. Just Scottish party. SNP decline amazing. Labour growth incredible. Tories - Idiots.
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Their support level is about the same, they're just clustered in Scotland.socialliberal said:Lib Dems being wiped out in England. Just Scottish party.
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Yougov's model vindicated.TravelJunkie said:Labour gain high peak omg massive swing
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Yes. I had hoped that Farron would go and Clegg would take up the reinsSouthamObserver said:Very sorry to see Clegg go.
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Clegg put the country before his party, much respect for him.0
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Go to bed.JosiasJessop said:
Show me a post where you said that pre-referendum ?Casino_Royale said:Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.
These are obvious potential consequences. You were warned.0 -
With terrorism we need good relations with EU0
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Clegg will be able to get a job in the EU now Brexit is finished....0
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Indeed. A politician that is head and shoulders above most.FattyBolger said:
Very good. History wil judge him kindlyEssexit said:Cleggxit
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Boris' Majority only 5k.0
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Guess not enough people agreed with Nick.0
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And perhaps the same should be said for you. Do you actually have a position on anything, aside from who can give you an (viagra assisted) erection ?SeanT said:
hahahahahahahahahaTheScreamingEagles said:Clegg's lost.
Sad
Never forgave him after the Lib Dems offered an in/out referendum then he decided that such a thing was an abomination when it actually became democratically possible.
Liberal DEMOCRATS??
Fuck off, old boy. Fuck off.
I hope you, like Scrooge McDuck, enjoy your pile of money.0 -
Is it? They could end up on eight in Scotland, plus Twickenham...Chameleon said:
My £50 on LD sub 10 @ ~6/1 is looking good.socialliberal said:Lib Dems being wiped out in England. Just Scottish party. SNP decline amazing. Labour growth incredible. Tories - Idiots.
Just one more stuffs you...0 -
Midland results really not bad for the Torieshunchman said:
Hopefully Walsall South and Vaz but I don't see itThreeQuidder said:Con gain Walsall North against the trend, to say the least.
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Thank God. Looking like up to 20 Tory losses to LabourKentRising said:Thurrock Tory HOLD
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Loans with income-contingent repayments have two advantages over an uncapped graduate tax - you can (at least in theory) chase after someone after they've moved abroad, and you don't end up paying more than the cost of your education + interest. A capped graduate tax is basically a student loan system anyway, with the disadvantage of not being able to charge graduates who move abroad to work.Chameleon said:
There's already a graduate tax. 9% extra tax on all income above £20k. A graduate tax would also do fuck all to get the youth vote onside when Lab are offering free tuition.glw said:
I SHALL SPELL IT OUT IN ALL CAPS FOR CCHQ. GRADUATE TAX, IT'S "FAIR" AND IT CAN BRING IN MORE MONEY.Chameleon said:
Hopefully Con will see what he's done and offer some things to the youth vote in the coming GE.kle4 said:Part of me wonders if Corbyn and co might not prefer to fall slightly short, as they've galvanized the youth vote, but no way they could deliver on all they promised.
If the government is going to charge graduates, I think it's hard to design a better system than the student loan system. But obviously this still doesn't make it very attractive to young people! If the government does not charge tuition, or imposes a severe cap on fees, then if they are unable to pump serious money towards the universities (and this is bound to happen at times when they face fiscal constraint... like now!) then we could easily end up with the top 20 or so unis going independent and charging 15 or 20k a year. (Not unreasonable if you compare it to boarding school costs, or fees for international students, or what top US institutions charge. Mindboggling and offputting numbers if you're 18...)
I think if a bribe for the young is to be found, it probably won't be lower fees. Though David Davis might like the idea.0 -
Good to say I actually phoned at least ONE seat where the Tories made a gain tonight, good gain for the Tories in WalsallThreeQuidder said:Con gain Walsall North against the trend, to say the least.
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LAB Gower! Got on at 3/1.0
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as I said on the previous post. I share that opinion of Lamb. He's done a lot to promote the cause of mental health. more than any other politician I know.rcs1000 said:
I'm personally very pleased for him. He is a good man, and was a good minister.spudgfsh said:https://twitter.com/IanClarke41/status/872992448355729409
Normal Lamb could hold onto Norfolk North.0 -
Nah, was no more inevitable than UUP wipe out or UUP recovery, i.e. it wasn't. There is a clear change in the mood all over the two islands, you can't keep calling Catholics reptiles and expect infinite cheek-turning.Y0kel said:
Thats balls, Sinn Fein were always going to do this, they've been wearing the SDLP down in Derry for near 8 years now., long before Arlene was on the scene.EPG said:
Middle-class Catholics / Nationalists are just sick of the endless scowling from Arlene Foster's unionism. The SDLP couldn't satisfy that demand and keep unionist tactical votes, it looks like they lost a bit of both.AndyJS said:Sinn Fein gain Foyle. Perhaps a sympathy vote to the memory of Martin McGuinness who used to be the SF candidate there for many elections.
I thought they'd do it in 2015. I was two years out.0 -
I agree.Mortimer said:
Its houses.Casino_Royale said:Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.
I've said it for years. We need to build MILLIONS of houses.0 -
@PaulBrandITV: BREAKING: Labour sources say will take Canterbury, which Julian Brazier has held since 1987.0
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26% majority in Westminster North0
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Ian Duncan Smith holdsocialliberal said:Tory London meltdown. Is there a Tory voter left in London?
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Putney.socialliberal said:Tory London meltdown. Is there a Tory voter left in London?
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Con hold Amber Valley, swing Lab to Con 4.5%0
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Changes in Sheffield Hallam:
Lab +2.6%
LD -5.4%
Con +10.2%
UKIP -4.8%
Greens -1.8%0 -
Old school two party battle down to the wire. – Gripping stuff.RobD said:What an election
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Labour hold Birmingham Yardley0
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F*ck.TravelJunkie said:
Ian Duncan Smith holdsocialliberal said:Tory London meltdown. Is there a Tory voter left in London?
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This is a large realignment.Scott_P said:@PaulBrandITV: BREAKING: Labour sources say will take Canterbury, which Julian Brazier has held since 1987.
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Ed Miliband holds Doncaster North0
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Birmingham egbaston hugggeee labour hold0
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UKIP get 20% in Thurrock @foxinsoxuk0
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IDS safe.0
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Lab gain Bristol NW0
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Bristol NW gone0
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South Holland and the Deepings
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Comrades gain Stroud AND Bristol NW0
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Clear personal vote, was going on every model.spudgfsh said:
as I said on the previous post. I share that opinion of Lamb. He's done a lot to promote the cause of mental health. more than any other politician I know.rcs1000 said:
I'm personally very pleased for him. He is a good man, and was a good minister.spudgfsh said:https://twitter.com/IanClarke41/status/872992448355729409
Normal Lamb could hold onto Norfolk North.
Well done Lamb.0 -
Boris holds Uxbridge0
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Bojo's majority halved to 5k0
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If Norman Lamb loses, that will be all the good Lib Dem coalition ministers gone.0
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Blackley and Broughton
Labour hold0 -
YouGov are doing so well, one starts to wonder about East DevonChameleon said:
This is a large realignment.Scott_P said:@PaulBrandITV: BREAKING: Labour sources say will take Canterbury, which Julian Brazier has held since 1987.
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Amazing to think Clegg and Farage are the same age.0
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Tories almost win Bishop Auckland.
Lab maj 502.0 -
Fuck, I live in a Labour constituency now0
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Its a brutal old game. History will judge Clegg kindly for the Coalition years.SouthamObserver said:Very sorry to see Clegg go.
While not sorry to see one fewer SNP MP, Robertson often asked the best questions in PMQs - wonder who will replace him now?0 -
There's a real danger for them that the Conservatives steal their lunch in Scotland.rcs1000 said:
Is it? They could end up on eight in Scotland, plus Twickenham...Chameleon said:
My £50 on LD sub 10 @ ~6/1 is looking good.socialliberal said:Lib Dems being wiped out in England. Just Scottish party. SNP decline amazing. Labour growth incredible. Tories - Idiots.
Just one more stuffs you...0 -
CLegg lost because Tories weren't willing to vote tactically for him unlike 20150
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Boris is on maneuvours in his speech, no mention of May.0
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It looks like the Tories are just... JUST going to make it.0
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Putneysocialliberal said:Tory London meltdown. Is there a Tory voter left in London?
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Recount in Canterbury. Corbyn surge moment imminent.0
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I'm here. I can tell you there are precious few of them.socialliberal said:Tory London meltdown. Is there a Tory voter left in London?
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socialliberal said:
Tory London meltdown. Is there a Tory voter left in London?
Uxbridge.0 -
This is the dog that hasn't barked from either Osborne or Clegg yet.Pong said:
Tuition fees back down to £3k.Casino_Royale said:Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.
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How does that differ in substance from a loan/repayment deal, except that there is no end to it? Oh and please tell me it won't be retrospective.glw said:
What I mean is roll all university funding and expenses into the tax. Tuition, the grant, and whatever else is "free" up front, and if you go to university your taxcode is permanently marked for a supplementary tax.Chameleon said:
There's already a graduate tax. 9% extra tax on all income above £20k. A graduate tax would also do fuck all to get the youth vote onside when Lab are offering free tuition.glw said:
I SHALL SPELL IT OUT IN ALL CAPS FOR CCHQ. GRADUATE TAX, IT'S "FAIR" AND IT CAN BRING IN MORE MONEY.Chameleon said:
Hopefully Con will see what he's done and offer some things to the youth vote in the coming GE.kle4 said:Part of me wonders if Corbyn and co might not prefer to fall slightly short, as they've galvanized the youth vote, but no way they could deliver on all they promised.
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"BREAKING: Labour sources say will take Canterbury, which Julian Brazier has held since 1987."
Isn't he an unreconstructed old-school Tory bigot? Or am I thinking of someone else.0 -
Its still beautifulTheScreamingEagles said:Fuck, I live in a Labour constituency now
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@britainelects: Labour GAIN Peterborough from Conservative.
Stewart Jackson OUT. pic.twitter.com/mVTskrjmkx0 -
If I was to bet on the next tory leader (not that I can find odds at the moment) I'd go for George Freeman.0
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Quiet man is backTravelJunkie said:
Ian Duncan Smith holdsocialliberal said:Tory London meltdown. Is there a Tory voter left in London?
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Bath. Witney.rcs1000 said:
Is it? They could end up on eight in Scotland, plus Twickenham...Chameleon said:
My £50 on LD sub 10 @ ~6/1 is looking good.socialliberal said:Lib Dems being wiped out in England. Just Scottish party. SNP decline amazing. Labour growth incredible. Tories - Idiots.
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Yes, but you're in infrastructure. Care to put a hard-hat on your head and a trowel in your hand? How good are you at bricklaying, as your position on Brexit sees rather inconsistent.Casino_Royale said:
I agree.Mortimer said:
Its houses.Casino_Royale said:Tories really need to find an offering for the young pretty sharpish, who seem to find no threat or fear in pacifism or socialism.
I've said it for years. We need to build MILLIONS of houses.0 -
Tories increasing majorities against Labour in the Midlands.0
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I've lived in a Con one for yearsTheScreamingEagles said:Fuck, I live in a Labour constituency now
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He's held on.FrancisUrquhart said:If Norman Lamb loses, that will be all the good Lib Dem coalition ministers gone.
I would never have guessed that Clegg would lose and Lamb win.0 -
Putney.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Richmond Park, UxbridgeMortimer said:
Putneysocialliberal said:Tory London meltdown. Is there a Tory voter left in London?
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True. He did the right thing for the Country, and the wrong thing for his Party.rcs1000 said:I'm sorry Nick. You didn't deserve to lose. Sometimes doing the right thing doesn't pay.
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I said even before this evening, Bristol was going to be prime Corbgasm, even if it didn't pay off elsewhere. The place is pure Corbynism.alex. said:Lab gain Bristol NW
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No, not Charlotte Leslie.0
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Not even after the Mail told them to either.not_on_fire said:CLegg lost because Tories weren't willing to vote tactically for him unlike 2015
For all the stress he's been under for years, Clegg's held up well!rcs1000 said:Amazing to think Clegg and Farage are the same age.
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Never underestimate the Scottish Nationalists. They are gifting seats to the Tories in Scotland to keep them in office in Westminster... It's all part of the long-term independence plan.0
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Tories gain East Renfrewshire and Walsall North but lose Canterbury.
What is happening?0 -
Vince Cable back apparently0
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Agreed.spudgfsh said:
as I said on the previous post. I share that opinion of Lamb. He's done a lot to promote the cause of mental health. more than any other politician I know.rcs1000 said:
I'm personally very pleased for him. He is a good man, and was a good minister.spudgfsh said:https://twitter.com/IanClarke41/status/872992448355729409
Normal Lamb could hold onto Norfolk North.
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Um, me?socialliberal said:Tory London meltdown. Is there a Tory voter left in London?
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lab gain peterborough, yougov looking like prophets let alone pollsters0
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Did he post here at one stage?Scott_P said:@britainelects: Labour GAIN Peterborough from Conservative.
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Mornington Crescent.HYUFD said:
Richmond Park, UxbridgeMortimer said:
Putneysocialliberal said:Tory London meltdown. Is there a Tory voter left in London?
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16% majority for Labour in Edgbaston.0
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You clearly no nothing about Foyle..look at the counts over the last 8 years. Sinn Fein have been rising and rising.EPG said:
Nah, was no more inevitable than UUP wipe out or UUP recovery, i.e. it wasn't. There is a clear change in the mood all over the two islands, you can't keep calling Catholics reptiles and expect infinite cheek-turning.Y0kel said:
Thats balls, Sinn Fein were always going to do this, they've been wearing the SDLP down in Derry for near 8 years now., long before Arlene was on the scene.EPG said:
Middle-class Catholics / Nationalists are just sick of the endless scowling from Arlene Foster's unionism. The SDLP couldn't satisfy that demand and keep unionist tactical votes, it looks like they lost a bit of both.AndyJS said:Sinn Fein gain Foyle. Perhaps a sympathy vote to the memory of Martin McGuinness who used to be the SF candidate there for many elections.
I thought they'd do it in 2015. I was two years out.
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