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What Conservative party ever expressly threatens to take your bought and paid for house if you get old and sick.......even I spotted that one. .....FFS

RobD said:

MaxPB said:

SeanT said:

Well we can now all agree that the dreadful Theresa May is gone. And, with her, hopefully, Hard Brexit.

Yes, May is gone by Monday. No chance she holds on now.

By Monday? Generous!

She'll be gone by the end of the day.

I'm not prepared. How did Theresa stuff this up so badly? She could have just made and promoted some positive policies, turned up to some more debates, not run an absurd presidential-style campaign, not banged on about foxhunting and social care. The opportunity was there to smash the Labour Party for a generation and she squandered it.

Green member in Bath who has been at the count reckons Lib Dems by 1-2,000

SeanT said:

Well we can now all agree that the dreadful Theresa May is gone. And, with her, hopefully, Hard Brexit.

As a Remainer myself, then what was the point of Brexit? We may as well have stayed in the EU where we were out of the Euro anyway. Staying in the single market with free movement unchecked and big payments to the EU (as the EU will demand for soft Brexit) is basically no real change from where we were in the EU anyway. The only result will be to see UKIP make a quicker recovery than Lazarus. Soft Brexit it may be and I have no problem myself with that but I think some of those UKIP voters who clearly went to Labour tonight thinking Brexit was settled with tough new migration controls and they could vote against austerity may now start to move back to UKIP. UKIP voters who have moved to the Tories may also swiftly move back, the Tories may regain some centrist voters in the South though

SeanT said:

The hatred for Theresa May and Nick Timothy in Tory circles must now be around 189.45 on a scale of 1 to 5.

LOL - the sort of thing I say to my kids :-)

DavidL said:

Paisley one the Unionists should have won but the vote split.

Glasgow is a more clear cut battle. Straight SLAB vs SNP.

SeanT said:

The hatred for Theresa May and Nick Timothy in Tory circles must now be around 189.45 on a scale of 1 to 5.

Cube 189.45 and you may be close.

FF43 said:

Interesting. SNP hold onto Paisley (Mhairi Black) thanks to Unionist tactical voting not happening or going wrong:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/872974787823489024

I suspect going wrong. Voters assumed the Tories were more likely to win the seat.

TheScreamingEagles said:

JosiasJessop said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I've managed to kill the mood at Matthew Parker Street.

*please* tell us how.

The headline of this thread.

You expect me to read the threader?

There are two sorts of people: those who read the content and those who just comment.

kle4 said:

Jason said:

Are we really suggesting Corbyn PM? Labour would need 50 gains for that to even be a remote possibility. Not going to happen.

The SNP and LDs will back him over Tories.

It's over, Jason.

What's over? The maths are not there for Labour unless they are the largest party. Is that your prediction, and if so, on what evidence?

FFS, these Welsh translations....

chloe said:

RobD said:

MaxPB said:

SeanT said:

Well we can now all agree that the dreadful Theresa May is gone. And, with her, hopefully, Hard Brexit.

Yes, May is gone by Monday. No chance she holds on now.

By Monday? Generous!

She'll be gone by the end of the day.

She needs to go

Mortimer said:

another_richard said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

My CCHQ sources says looks like the young voters did turn out, as well their middle class parents, and frightened grannies stayed at home.

People want to buy cheap houses and keep expensive houses.

So just the moon on a stick, then?

Plus free universities, subsidised energy and transport, higher pay, tax cuts and increased spending on public services.

And they want it all now.

And woe to any government which doesn't deliver.

JosiasJessop said:

Casino_Royale said:

FattyBolger said:

Dura_Ace said:

Amber Rudd's tears taste like nectar to me.

What an unpleasant comment

We will see the full unpleasantness of the Far Left now in all its glory.

whereas we saw the full unpleasantness of the Far right last year.

Remember that?

Yup.

I don't think Mohamed is a native Welsh speaker

Bobajob_PB said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

My CCHQ sources says looks like the young voters did turn out, as well their middle class parents, and frightened grannies stayed at home.

That is what really struck me from that age break down poll showed earlier today, the Tories were losing in the middle age bracket. It is one thing being smashed in the youngster bracket, but at the start of the GE campaign May was a country mile ahead in the other two age brackets.

I think it was you that pointed that out earlier. If we had listened to you, we could all have won a lot of money.

It was...but I also thought Tories must be ok (despite YouGov) because there were no signs of panic / change of focus in the campaign.

I am sure we will find out why in due course, either Textor / Messina polling was horrendous or May wouldn't listen.

tlg86 said:

FF43 said:

Interesting. SNP hold onto Paisley (Mhairi Black) thanks to Unionist tactical voting not happening or going wrong:

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/872974787823489024

Absolute fucking morons.

They'll know next time

TravelJunkie said:

George Osborne - Ipswich Milton Keynes reading northampton looking very bad. Globalised connected towns

That's all because of this dementia tax, WFA stuff, not Brexit (Northampton strongly voted for Brexit for example)

MarkSenior said:

Green member in Bath who has been at the count reckons Lib Dems by 1-2,000

Kingston is on a knife-edge too.

Vale of Clwyd
Labour 19423
Tories 17044
Labour gain

Jason said:

kle4 said:

Jason said:

Are we really suggesting Corbyn PM? Labour would need 50 gains for that to even be a remote possibility. Not going to happen.

The SNP and LDs will back him over Tories.

It's over, Jason.

What's over? The maths are not there for Labour unless they are the largest party. Is that your prediction, and if so, on what evidence?

Won't be far off

Lab gain Vale of Clwyd by over 2,000 votes

Chris Ruane who lost his seat in 2015 is returned

rottenborough said:

Andrew said:

Spreads C307 L275 LD13 SNP34.

How does anyone form a government with that? Especially since LibDems taking a hardline against being part of a coalition.

https://twitter.com/PCollinsTimes/status/872975730937823239

Bam. However I don't see many seats outside Scotland changing hands in the new elections.

If it's a Labour minority, expect Farage to be UKIP leader again by Christmas.

EDW20000 said:

Tories concentrating on Corby and the IRA was idiotic.
Who under 30 gives a toss about they IRA?

Indeed. The Tories gave up the economy way too early and easily.

Labour is the perpetually irritating Japanese knotweed of British politics that just won't die.

Greens not excessively squeezed in Putney.

GIN1138 said:

TravelJunkie said:

George Osborne - Ipswich Milton Keynes reading northampton looking very bad. Globalised connected towns

That's all because of this dementia tax, WFA stuff, not Brexit (Northampton strongly voted for Brexit for example)

Its the NHS and public services. The NHS won it for Brexit, it looks like it will win it for Labour this time.

GIN1138 said:

TravelJunkie said:

George Osborne - Ipswich Milton Keynes reading northampton looking very bad. Globalised connected towns

That's all because of this dementia tax, WFA stuff, not Brexit (Northampton strongly voted for Brexit for example)

Yes, it's all down to Theresa trying to steal people's houses.

Putney - Con hold.

Greenign hangs on

Justine Greening holds on.

https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/872975916703649792

Phew.

PHEW! Putney!

Future PM, Justine Greening returned in Putney

SeanT said:

JosiasJessop said:

SeanT said:

Well we can now all agree that the dreadful Theresa May is gone. And, with her, hopefully, Hard Brexit.

I bet you can show me loads of posts in your diarrhetic output that shows that?

Hang on, you post every possible view nightly.

Eh? I fully admit I am absurdly bipolar but I've been clear from the start that I wanted Soft Brexit, and abhorred Hard Brexit, and I entirely lost confidence in Theresa May when she announced her Manifesto, as I said on here (and PB-ers will attest)

Tbf there were a few 'Cry God for Harry, England, and Saint George, & we'll ram our diamond hard Brexit up your garlicky arses' moments.

SeanT said:

JosiasJessop said:

SeanT said:

Well we can now all agree that the dreadful Theresa May is gone. And, with her, hopefully, Hard Brexit.

I bet you can show me loads of posts in your diarrhetic output that shows that?

Hang on, you post every possible view nightly.

Eh? I fully admit I am absurdly bipolar but I've been clear from the start that I wanted Soft Brexit, and abhorred Hard Brexit, and I entirely lost confidence in Theresa May when she announced her Manifesto, as I said on here (and PB-ers will attest)

The problem is you track record is of supporting every possible outcome simultaneously. You are a Schrodinger's Car poster.

If you want your political comments to be taken seriously you should take this to heart.

In fact, the same applies to your so-called sad sex-life, you lonely, hopeless soul.

Greening by the skin of her teeth.

crossover back to May

We should get an exit poll update soon, surely?

AlastairMeeks said:

I think the Scottish Conservatives are going to do exceptionally well. Look at the huge rises in vote share in constituencies where they have no interest.

Yes. They might keep the Tories as largest party.

Essexit said:

I'm not prepared. How did Theresa stuff this up so badly? She could have just made and promoted some positive policies, turned up to some more debates, not run an absurd presidential-style campaign, not banged on about foxhunting and social care. The opportunity was there to smash the Labour Party for a generation and she squandered it.

It's almost like she wanted to lose, couldn't have done anything more to get to this position.

numbertwelve said:

GIN1138 said:

TravelJunkie said:

George Osborne - Ipswich Milton Keynes reading northampton looking very bad. Globalised connected towns

That's all because of this dementia tax, WFA stuff, not Brexit (Northampton strongly voted for Brexit for example)

Its the NHS and public services. The NHS won it for Brexit, it looks like it will win it for Labour this time.

Yes, this was a vote against further cuts for public services primarily, people felt Brexit was done and dusted, May would win and immigration could fall so they could vote against yet more austerity and shift from UKIP to Labour, not simply the Tories as most of us thought (including I admit myself). Now with the nature of Brexit up in the air again and perhaps no new immigration controls at all UKIP is back on again as a political force and Farage must surely return to the leadership if it is soft Brexit

Dover - Con hold - zero swing

Well done Greening. At least now you can tell May to get lost with her grammar school nonsense

Clwyd South

Lab +13.5
Con +8.7