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kle4 said:

GIN1138 said:

Fleet_of_Worlds said:

GeoffM said:

Fleet_of_Worlds said:

I'm experiencing a wobble. On my twitter feed many singers, musicians, TV personalities, writers, cartoonists, and one catastrophically overwrought TV cook are all breaking decisively for Labour. Surely PM Corbyn is nailed on?

Every time I go into a polling station I first ask myself Who Would Lilly Allen Vote For?

She is apparently a singer of some type, and therefore Knows Stuff.

GIN1138 said:

Fleet_of_Worlds said:

I'm experiencing a wobble. On my twitter feed many singers, musicians, TV personalities, writers, cartoonists, and one catastrophically overwrought TV cook are all breaking decisively for Labour. Surely PM Corbyn is nailed on?

Who is the cook out of interest?

Ruby Tandoh seems to be experiencing some distress. Worth a trip to twitter, from behind a welding mask, to have a look.

Never heard of her but I'll have a look.

She's personally calling out TV chefs 'shaming' them for not speaking out

lots of big names staying suspiciously silent today despite their entire fortune/following being built on a ~kind and inclusive~ ethos

sorry but silence makes you a tory. if u think some ideological non-partisan thing is more valuable than getting a Labour govt in, get lost

This is a parody account right?

Floater said:

Casino_Royale said:

MarqueeMark said:

The mood music since QT has been poor for Labour. Not brilliant for May either, especially on police numbers, but the scrutiny of Labour on security matters and the past comments of their top triumvirate are poisonous. I can envisage a sizeable late return to May as people think to themselves "Do I want to risk Prime Minister Corbyn? Nah....." This poll might perhaps be catching the start of it.

Perhaps this election won't even be remotely close in the end?

I'm getting pissed in 10 hours, whatever.

Yep

I've got a bottle of English Sparkling wine for the exit poll at 10pm and a litre of gin on standby just in case!

GIN1138 said:

kle4 said:

GIN1138 said:

Fleet_of_Worlds said:

GeoffM said:

Fleet_of_Worlds said:

I'm experiencing a wobble. On my twitter feed many singers, musicians, TV personalities, writers, cartoonists, and one catastrophically overwrought TV cook are all breaking decisively for Labour. Surely PM Corbyn is nailed on?

Every time I go into a polling station I first ask myself Who Would Lilly Allen Vote For?

She is apparently a singer of some type, and therefore Knows Stuff.

GIN1138 said:

Fleet_of_Worlds said:

I'm experiencing a wobble. On my twitter feed many singers, musicians, TV personalities, writers, cartoonists, and one catastrophically overwrought TV cook are all breaking decisively for Labour. Surely PM Corbyn is nailed on?

Who is the cook out of interest?

Ruby Tandoh seems to be experiencing some distress. Worth a trip to twitter, from behind a welding mask, to have a look.

Never heard of her but I'll have a look.

She's personally calling out TV chefs 'shaming' them for not speaking out

lots of big names staying suspiciously silent today despite their entire fortune/following being built on a ~kind and inclusive~ ethos

sorry but silence makes you a tory. if u think some ideological non-partisan thing is more valuable than getting a Labour govt in, get lost

This is a parody account right?

Could be for all I know. Funny though.

One of my sources reports police called to the Civic Hall in Didcot (the Gdansk of Oxfordshire (c) Stephen Fry) after someone made a grab for the ballot papers!

TheScreamingEagles said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:

isam said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

Scrapheap_as_was said:

Betfair Tory maj drifting from 1.15 to now 1.21 in last hour.

Might be popping out for some pampers for the first time..... or more popcorn.

Now 1.26.....

Pile on.

There's no way the Blues are going to all Spursy today.

When was the last time Spurs were odds on for a trophy and blew it?

Against Coventry in 87?

Can we go back to Pampers please... this banter is not helping.

You reckon if Corbyn increases Labour's votes but loses seats, he'll feel like Spurs fans in 2012 when they finished fourth in the league but were denied a Champions League spot because Chelsea won the Champions League that season?

Surely more like Arsenal this season. We increased are points by four but fell three places.

rottenborough said:

glw said:

GIN1138 said:

Fleet_of_Worlds said:

GeoffM said:

Fleet_of_Worlds said:

I'm experiencing a wobble. On my twitter feed many singers, musicians, TV personalities, writers, cartoonists, and one catastrophically overwrought TV cook are all breaking decisively for Labour. Surely PM Corbyn is nailed on?

Every time I go into a polling station I first ask myself Who Would Lilly Allen Vote For?

She is apparently a singer of some type, and therefore Knows Stuff.

GIN1138 said:

Fleet_of_Worlds said:

I'm experiencing a wobble. On my twitter feed many singers, musicians, TV personalities, writers, cartoonists, and one catastrophically overwrought TV cook are all breaking decisively for Labour. Surely PM Corbyn is nailed on?

Who is the cook out of interest?

Ruby Tandoh seems to be experiencing some distress. Worth a trip to twitter, from behind a welding mask, to have a look.

Never heard of her but I'll have a look.

So right on and so stupid at the same time.

Today may be the best sales day The Sun has had in decades if all the cultists are out buying 30 copies at a time and binning them. LOL.

It reminds me when the yuff had that campaign against Simon Cowell and all decided to buy RATM track to stop XFactor getting Christmas #1....but RATM record label is Sony and Cowell own label is part owned by Sony and he has share / profit share with them.....Genius.

Have Paddy Power paid out on the Tories winning?

Is surprising if they haven't.

Perhaps they think Corbyn's going to pull this off.

Saw someone buying a bottle of Jim Beam in Tesco earlier. Asked "is that for tonight?" He grinned and nodded.

Afternoon folks!

Fleet_of_Worlds said:

not_on_fire said:

Fleet_of_Worlds said:

One of my sources reports police called to the Civic Hall in Didcot (the Gdansk of Oxfordshire (c) Stephen Fry) after someone made a grab for the ballot papers!

Fleet_of_Worlds said:

One of my sources reports police called to the Civic Hall in Didcot (the Gdansk of Oxfordshire (c) Stephen Fry) after someone made a grab for the ballot papers!

MI5 will just hire anyone these days, it seems

Yes - totally amateurish job. Didn't even bring a helicopter.

Vaizey was in the area earlier... that's all I'm saying.

Annoyingly stuck in waiting for an Amazon delivery. I want to get out and vote. Let's hope they come before 10pm.

My name is Jon and I am an electionaholic. Why am i so unreasonably excited about tonight??

I have no enthusiasm for May - I will feel only relief at Corbyn not being elected

But I am soooo looking forward to the results programme.

I know I am amongst friends :-)

The Ben Page tweet worries me a bit.

He's basically saying half of all voters will be over 55.

Makes me wonder if they have overdone the turnout weighting.

Average life expectancy in UK is 81. So:

18 to 54 = 37 years
55 to 81 = 26 years

So average turnout must be 37/26 = 42% higher amongst over 55s - that's ratio, not absolute amount.

Implies say:

54% turnout amongst under 55s
77% turnout amongst over 55s

Is that realistic?

Two snippets.

1. Had lunch with someone yesterday who had chatted with Mundell about SCON chances. Apparently, the view was that SCON had 6-7 gains in the bag and could get 10-12. That was before the debate.

2. Met a friend of mine who is deep in with the Corbynista faction of the Labour party (e.g. her best friend is Chair of one of the Islington Labour Party seats. Asked her about she felt about today, expecting a "let's see how it goes". Instead, she turned round and said "it is going to an absolute disaster, you always have hopes but it will be terrible".

Make of those what you want.

rottenborough said:

Annoyingly stuck in waiting for an Amazon delivery. I want to get out and vote. Let's hope they come before 10pm.

Online shopping is so much more convenient, isn't it?

Merry Briskmas everyone.

And may the odds be ever in your favour.

TheScreamingEagles said:

The final Ipsos MORI poll gives Mrs May an 11% lead over Corbyn on most capable PM.

In 2015 Cameron had a 15% lead over Miliband.

#MayIsCrap

OTOH, he only had a 4% lead over Brown in 2010.

There must be a link between best PM and voting intention, but it's not a clear one.

JonCisBack said:

My name is Jon and I am an electionaholic. Why am i so unreasonably excited about tonight??

I have no enthusiasm for May - I will feel only relief at Corbyn not being elected

But I am soooo looking forward to the results programme.

I know I am amongst friends :-)

Hi John!

There's a new life for you if you want it... probably not on this site though!

Chris said:

rottenborough said:

Annoyingly stuck in waiting for an Amazon delivery. I want to get out and vote. Let's hope they come before 10pm.

Online shopping is so much more convenient, isn't it?

AHMatlock said:

JohnO said:

AHMatlock said:

JohnO said:

AHMatlock said:

Cookie said:

Bloody Hell, Alastair Matlock is back! As if my nerves weren't already shredded by last night's Reverse Herdson. Welcome back, Alastair!

Many thanks, Cookie! Nothing like a General Election to stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood and raise old commenters like me from the dead.

For our younger members here, His Grace The Duke of Beaconsfield was Leader of the (dominant) pb Conservative Group from 2005-8. I was honoured to serve as his loyal chief whip.

My dear John - you are too kind! Sadly, I am still waiting for my peerage to come through... must have been held up in the scrutiny committee! I hope you are well? Commiserations on last year, though I am sure you are long since on to bigger and better things. Best of luck for today in your patch!

Many thanks and having spent a year in the wilderness I was recalled to serve my beloved Hersham in its distress on May 4th by being elected as their Surrey County Councillor. I'll write to you tomorrow. Shortly out to rouse the good denizens of Kingston and Surbiton for their day of destiny at the polling station.

Jolly Good! You know - I think I did know that, but my memory isn't what it used to be. I had the misfortune of spending the first half of May in hospital and was thus deprived of access to my usual sources of information. They finally had enough of me and gave me the boot. This evening's viewing should be much more comfortable!

Ha, I've just spent the past two months recovering from 8 broken ribs sustained in a minor skiing fall. First time in a long while that I've been able to keep up with PB and make the occasional comment and sneaky link to my blog ( www.lifestuff.xyz ).
Turnout during a couple of hours of telling in strong Tory ward in Wandsworth... high early voting, up about 50%, then levelling off to usual levels after 10am. No visible change in age range from 2016, 2015 or 2010 for that matter.

MikeL said:

The Ben Page tweet worries me a bit.

He's basically saying half of all voters will be over 55.

Makes me wonder if they have overdone the turnout weighting.

Average life expectancy in UK is 81. So:

18 to 54 = 37 years
55 to 81 = 26 years

So average turnout must be 37/26 = 42% higher amongst over 55s - that's ratio, not absolute amount.

Implies say:

54% turnout amongst under 55s
77% turnout amongst over 55s

Is that realistic?

But how many are registered? Being alive is only half the battle you've got to be registered. In fact if you posted, being alive is less important on the actual day than being registered come to think of it.

TheScreamingEagles said:

The final Ipsos MORI poll gives Mrs May an 11% lead over Corbyn on most capable PM.

In 2015 Cameron had a 15% lead over Miliband.

#MayIsCrap

TMICIPM.

To coin a phrase.

rottenborough said:

Annoyingly stuck in waiting for an Amazon delivery. I want to get out and vote. Let's hope they come before 10pm.

If this time tomorrow it is PM Corbyn you won't have to worry about this kind of thing anymore. They deliveries will probably take a few days at least.

rottenborough said:

Chris said:

rottenborough said:

Annoyingly stuck in waiting for an Amazon delivery. I want to get out and vote. Let's hope they come before 10pm.

Online shopping is so much more convenient, isn't it?

You should have them deliver it to your local PO and pick it up at your leisure :-)

MikeL said:

The Ben Page tweet worries me a bit.

He's basically saying half of all voters will be over 55.

Makes me wonder if they have overdone the turnout weighting.

Average life expectancy in UK is 81. So:

18 to 54 = 37 years
55 to 81 = 26 years

So average turnout must be 37/26 = 42% higher amongst over 55s - that's ratio, not absolute amount.

Implies say:

54% turnout amongst under 55s
77% turnout amongst over 55s

Is that realistic?

Seems like it has a fair chance of being bang on but I'm not absolutely sure your averaging of life expectancy quite works the way you think it does. Aren't you assuming that birth cohorts are constant across time, and that nobody dies aged 54 or under, there?

TheScreamingEagles said:

Sean_F said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

The final Ipsos MORI poll gives Mrs May an 11% lead over Corbyn on most capable PM.

In 2015 Cameron had a 15% lead over Miliband.

#MayIsCrap

OTOH, he only had a 4% lead over Brown in 2010.

There must be a link between best PM and voting intention, but it's not a clear one.

I think the link is going to be stronger if we truly are reverting back to two party politics.

Not an infallible link though. Maggie was behind Callaghan on best PM ratings in 79 but of course famously won.

GarethoftheVale2 said:

MikeL said:

The Ben Page tweet worries me a bit.

He's basically saying half of all voters will be over 55.

Makes me wonder if they have overdone the turnout weighting.

Average life expectancy in UK is 81. So:

18 to 54 = 37 years
55 to 81 = 26 years

So average turnout must be 37/26 = 42% higher amongst over 55s - that's ratio, not absolute amount.

Implies say:

54% turnout amongst under 55s
77% turnout amongst over 55s

Is that realistic?

2 things to bear in mind.

1) A lot of young people aren't registered and EU immigrants who tend to be young aren't eligible
2) the baby boom generation us larger than surrounding generations (hence the name)

77% for over 55s. Wasn't it above that for EU referendum among oldies?

TheScreamingEagles said:

The final Ipsos MORI poll gives Mrs May an 11% lead over Corbyn on most capable PM.

In 2015 Cameron had a 15% lead over Miliband.

#MayIsCrap

Particularly striking since it was May's choice to make it Presidential precisely because there was such confidence she'd muller Corbyn on that metric in a total walkover.

She might well yet pull a huge win out of the bag, and it'll all be forgotten. A more modest one and it will be a bitter kind of victory that diminishes her badly. In the midst of life we are in death.

Carolus_Rex said:

welshowl said:

MikeL said:

The Ben Page tweet worries me a bit.

He's basically saying half of all voters will be over 55.

Makes me wonder if they have overdone the turnout weighting.

Average life expectancy in UK is 81. So:

18 to 54 = 37 years
55 to 81 = 26 years

So average turnout must be 37/26 = 42% higher amongst over 55s - that's ratio, not absolute amount.

Implies say:

54% turnout amongst under 55s
77% turnout amongst over 55s

Is that realistic?

But how many are registered? Being alive is only half the battle you've got to be registered. In fact if you posted, being alive is less important on the actual day than being registered come to think of it.

You know, I've never thought of that - does a postal vote count if you're dead?

Then again, how would they know?

And for that matter - what happens if you put your cross in the box on the day and drop dead between the polling booth and the ballot box?

I know I should get out more.

I think postal ballots count. Not sure about dying while you are walking to the ballot box with a completed ballot paper. I wonder if that has ever happened?

rottenborough said:

PaulM said:

Since everyone else is putting up picks here's mine
Con 354
Lab 221
LD 7
Plaid 5
SNP 41
Majority 58

I've been more bullish on Labour from the start as I never bought the idea that exLabour UKIPers in the North would vote Tory (as OGH said on the podcast). Just sorry I was in the USA when the 156 was available on the spreads for Labour seats.

Here's mine:

Conservative 403
Labour 160
Scottish National 50
Liberal Democrat 10
Democratic Unionist 8
Independent 4
Sinn Féin 4
Plaid Cymru 3
SDLP 3
Ulster Unionist Party 2
UKIP 1
Green 1

As you can see, I am well into landslide territory.

Getting a bit nervous about all these young people turning up and buggering this up though.

I don't think you need to be! I wish you did have cause for doubt as I hate Tory One-Party States.

My non-constituency betting is now biassed pro-TM=PM and pro-Tory majority with small amounts on landslide majorities.

Slightly more Labour than Tory constituency bets. I bet on Skinner holding Bolsover @1.29 which seemed silly odds and is now back to ~1.1

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/2015guide/labour-defence/

I bet on Hampstead at 5.0 and may cover the bet, given yesterday's report that 'it's tight'. How tight?

A few SNP and LibDem, these based mostly on tips from PBers, for which my thanks.

RobD said:

Carolus_Rex said:

welshowl said:

MikeL said:

The Ben Page tweet worries me a bit.

He's basically saying half of all voters will be over 55.

Makes me wonder if they have overdone the turnout weighting.

Average life expectancy in UK is 81. So:

18 to 54 = 37 years
55 to 81 = 26 years

So average turnout must be 37/26 = 42% higher amongst over 55s - that's ratio, not absolute amount.

Implies say:

54% turnout amongst under 55s
77% turnout amongst over 55s

Is that realistic?

But how many are registered? Being alive is only half the battle you've got to be registered. In fact if you posted, being alive is less important on the actual day than being registered come to think of it.

You know, I've never thought of that - does a postal vote count if you're dead?

Then again, how would they know?

And for that matter - what happens if you put your cross in the box on the day and drop dead between the polling booth and the ballot box?

I know I should get out more.

I think postal ballots count. Not sure about dying while you are walking to the ballot box with a completed ballot paper. I wonder if that has ever happened?

The state some Tory PBers have got themselves into of late I wouldn't be at all surprised!

Sean_F said:

ab195 said:

Perusing twitter, it occurs to me that if Jeremy and his fan club are so adamant that the content of the Sun and the Mail today are lies, they should take them to court. I'd pay for a seat in that public gallery......

The editors must be delighted that left wingers are buying up every copy they can get their hands on.

Also helpfully telling their 90k followers, plus all the retweeters, that "the Sun and Mail say something controversial about Corbyn today".

Patrick said:

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

The final Ipsos MORI poll gives Mrs May an 11% lead over Corbyn on most capable PM.

In 2015 Cameron had a 15% lead over Miliband.

#MayIsCrap

It's a shock that anyone thinks Corbyn is the most capable PM.

I think they project. I like jam = I like Jezza. All the Labour enthusiasm and it's stupidity comes from the jam hose that Jezza says he'll spray at us.

Corbyn has been more impressive than May during the campaign. More gravitas and a better communicator. It's not a surprise to me that people think he would make a better PM at all. She is bad.

AlastairMeeks said:

Since we're among friends...

My other half is recovering very well at present. He decided that he wanted to go back to Northern Ireland for a couple of weeks (for personal and business reasons). He chose today as the day when he wanted to travel and explained that no, he didn't have much flexibility about this.

As a result, I shall be on a ferry across the North Sea tonight while the election results unfold. The wifi is iffy and in any case my cabin mate won't take kindly to an illuminated iPad.

So I'll be missing all the fun.

Well if you are going to Northern Ireland via the North Sea you may be aboard longer than you think

Patrick said:

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

The final Ipsos MORI poll gives Mrs May an 11% lead over Corbyn on most capable PM.

In 2015 Cameron had a 15% lead over Miliband.

#MayIsCrap

It's a shock that anyone thinks Corbyn is the most capable PM.

I think they project. I like jam = I like Jezza. All the Labour enthusiasm and it's stupidity comes from the jam hose that Jezza says he'll spray at us.

And his supporters don't get that the jam is going to be provided by those nasty shareholders who own large PLCs.

Who are in fact them - via their Pension Funds.

I live in the most Labour part of what is normally considered a 'safe' Labour seat. I went to vote and I did a horrible thing, on the way in a Labour teller asked for my polling card number. I think I burst her bubble, I said "sorry, you cannot have my polling card number as I want nothing to do with a Labour party headed by Corbyn". She looked dejected, like she had listened to comments like that before. Anyway in the most Labour area, only one other person was voting in their at that time.

This is in contrast to another area in the same seat where I was acting as a proxy voter for a family member. The area where the second polling station is situated can be described as much more competitive and inclined for the Conservatives. In this polling station I had to queue. It might just be coincidental and completely non-reflective of what will happen but Labour could be in trouble.

I am not going to name the seat but it would be Tory target 100+ off Labour and Labour have spent a lot of money on mailshots delivered by Royal Mail in the last two weeks. They have targeted social housing and owner occupier housing in equal measure. The point is if Labour are using their resources on this type of seat the Tories are in for a good night and re-election IMO. The parliamentary constituency is thought to have voted Remain in 2016, UKIP are not standing this time though which might explain the Labour activity.

rottenborough said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Since we're among friends...

My other half is recovering very well at present. He decided that he wanted to go back to Northern Ireland for a couple of weeks (for personal and business reasons). He chose today as the day when he wanted to travel and explained that no, he didn't have much flexibility about this.

As a result, I shall be on a ferry across the North Sea tonight while the election results unfold. The wifi is iffy and in any case my cabin mate won't take kindly to an illuminated iPad.

So I'll be missing all the fun.

Oh dear, that is bad luck. Family come first obviously, but blimey...

I really do feel for you. Not sure I could cope with that.
What about listening to the radio with headphones.

Alice_Aforethought said:

Paristonda said:

Just voted - to use the old cliche turnout seemed brisk - considering it's the middle of the afternoon.

First time voting for Labour, ironically the time when I have been least close to them as a party, but my seat is now a marginal so a LD vote would have been wasted, and I would like my local MP to win.

By definition your local MP will win...

Note to self: Never leave even the slightest opening for a pedantic comment on PB!

AlastairMeeks said:

Since we're among friends...

My other half is recovering very well at present. He decided that he wanted to go back to Northern Ireland for a couple of weeks (for personal and business reasons). He chose today as the day when he wanted to travel and explained that no, he didn't have much flexibility about this.

As a result, I shall be on a ferry across the North Sea tonight while the election results unfold. The wifi is iffy and in any case my cabin mate won't take kindly to an illuminated iPad.

So I'll be missing all the fun.

Safe journey Mr Meeks, you'll have something to look forward to when you step off the ferry.

I have a slight issue with tonight. I need to stay awake in the dead hours between the exit poll and the first few results, and the main glut from two onwards.

Unfortunately, as my wife will be in the bedroom next door, and my toddler in the room above, I cannot make too much noise. So along with the whisky and popcorn, I've decided to continue on a paper-and-card model of a Saturn V I started a few months ago. It's all printed out ready to go, although I expect the gluing and cutting to get somewhat worse as the whisky somehow magically disappears from the bottle.

How will everyone else be spending those hours?

(It's because I really want one of these : https://shop.lego.com/en-GB/LEGO-NASA-Apollo-Saturn-V-21309 )

AlastairMeeks said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

AlastairMeeks said:

Since we're among friends...

My other half is recovering very well at present. He decided that he wanted to go back to Northern Ireland for a couple of weeks (for personal and business reasons). He chose today as the day when he wanted to travel and explained that no, he didn't have much flexibility about this.

As a result, I shall be on a ferry across the North Sea tonight while the election results unfold. The wifi is iffy and in any case my cabin mate won't take kindly to an illuminated iPad.

So I'll be missing all the fun.

Well if you are going to Northern Ireland via the North Sea you may be aboard longer than you think

Good point! Too many "norths" on the brain. Since it's operating so badly, just as well I'm missing the fun.

All the best to the two of you as you sail over the Irish Sea which I can see as I type this

Sean_F said:

Has anyone worked out what Martin Boon was playing at last night?

As I said, there's a special place in hell for poll rampers.

My take was that one of his Kabooms was the swingback by YouGov, and the other was a rumour of Labour 3pts ahead in a poll, which others had also heard and which he later recanted. Whole thing was a bit silly if you ask me.

AlastairMeeks said:

Sean_F said:

Has anyone worked out what Martin Boon was playing at last night?

As I said, there's a special place in hell for poll rampers.

I thought the Kaboom was for YouGov's reverse ferret.

The second Kaboom might have referred to BMG.

TSE was saying it was likely relating to a poll with a 3% Lab lead which was debunked? Although that Qriously thing was referenced in the last header.

Guido Fawkes‏V @GuidoFawkes
Hearing Labour fears that their vote is not coming out. #CorbynEffect

AlastairMeeks said:

Since we're among friends...

My other half is recovering very well at present. He decided that he wanted to go back to Northern Ireland for a couple of weeks (for personal and business reasons). He chose today as the day when he wanted to travel and explained that no, he didn't have much flexibility about this.

As a result, I shall be on a ferry across the North Sea tonight while the election results unfold. The wifi is iffy and in any case my cabin mate won't take kindly to an illuminated iPad.

So I'll be missing all the fun.

Great to hear he is making good progress.

How mean of him to interrupt your election night fun though...

TGOHF said:

Jonathan said:

Patrick said:

Casino_Royale said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

The final Ipsos MORI poll gives Mrs May an 11% lead over Corbyn on most capable PM.

In 2015 Cameron had a 15% lead over Miliband.

#MayIsCrap

It's a shock that anyone thinks Corbyn is the most capable PM.

I think they project. I like jam = I like Jezza. All the Labour enthusiasm and it's stupidity comes from the jam hose that Jezza says he'll spray at us.

Corbyn has been more impressive than May during the campaign. More gravitas and a better communicator. It's not a surprise to me that people think he would make a better PM at all. She is bad.

"been more impressive" is completely subjective and irrelevant come 10pm.

Eh? All we're talking about is subjective opinions represented in polls.

But you're right, when she gets her expected landslide for five years, she will still be rubbish and we will all still be in the shit.

Ishmael_Z said:

So BBC or Sky at 10 pm? (Bearing in mind I am in love with Sophy Ridge).

ITV

Only place you can get #OsBalls

JosiasJessop said:

I have a slight issue with tonight. I need to stay awake in the dead hours between the exit poll and the first few results, and the main glut from two onwards.

Unfortunately, as my wife will be in the bedroom next door, and my toddler in the room above, I cannot make too much noise. So along with the whisky and popcorn, I've decided to continue on a paper-and-card model of a Saturn V I started a few months ago. It's all printed out ready to go, although I expect the gluing and cutting to get somewhat worse as the whisky somehow magically disappears from the bottle.

How will everyone else be spending those hours?

(It's because I really want one of these : https://shop.lego.com/en-GB/LEGO-NASA-Apollo-Saturn-V-21309 )

If you bet correctly tonight you might be able to buy one!