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  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,420
    surbiton said:

    Good day. Man U wins. Liverpool loses. Macron wins.

    Man U to qualify for Champions League in two ways. Life is definitely getting better.

    I'm amazed that we have yet another PB Manchester United fan from parts far distant to Manchester.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    MTimT said:

    Cantal, also
    There are more fully declared:

    https://www.thelocal.fr/20170423/interactive-map-of-the-2017-french-presidential-election
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207

    Happens at the BBC anytime they mention 'Obama', 'Mandela', 'Blair', 'Miliband'
    Pretty sure the beeb will not need so much champers this election.
  • A little grumble:

    When are Sportsbook going to put the Constituencies in alphabetic order? it is all a bit haphazard at present.
    They also only seem to have 11 constituencies listed for Wales.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Good news Pulpstar, not one bit of black in Ile de France so far...
  • isamisam Posts: 41,134

    I'm amazed that we have yet another PB Manchester United fan from parts far distant to Manchester.
    At least that confirms he's from Surrey!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,096
    Mortimer said:

    Balls. Thought that was a sure fire Wood gain...
    I've backed max at 4-6 Labour there, but also taken 75 pence of my stake on the Tories at 50-1.
  • "I want to be president of patriots faced with the threat of nationalism"

    Doublethink.
  • Y0kelY0kel Posts: 2,307
    edited April 2017
    kle4 said:

    Any idea how things will shake down in NI this time around? Nationalists to regain Fermanagh and South Tyrone? Unionist pacts to help gain another seat?

    Too fluid, its likely a unionist pact, possibly an expanded one, but there is also rumour of a 'pro remain' set of agreements on the nationalist side in certain areas.

    They call it that because Nationalist parties will go to their deaths claiming they are not sectarian.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    Totally off topic but why is Maguire s unfancied for the snooker world championship. He's dropped 5 frames in two matches seems to have a good draw and always had the talent.
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658

    She won Rhondda on a 24% swing last year:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhondda_(Assembly_constituency)
    ah OK, thanks.
  • bobajobPBbobajobPB Posts: 1,042
    This Aussie anchorwoman is rubbish - it's clear the Les Republicans guy is struggling with his English (he is giving it a very good shot) and she just keeps interrupting him before he can get his words out. I'm interested in what the guy has to say.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,309
    Floater said:

    Pretty sure the beeb will not need so much champers this election.
    Block booking at Dignitas.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Charles said:

    I think you are muddling him up with @tyson. I believe @surbiton runs a small engineering company (machine parts?) in Surrey
    Thanks, Charles ! I had not read the earlier post. More than 99% of my income is paid through PAYE. I could not even tell you how much interest I earn on my deposits these days. Maybe a couple of hundred quid. Probably not even that. Where the "rentier" came from, I am a bit puzzled.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Floater said:

    I have had some great times in France, I had a place in rural Normandy and I spoke enough French to get by, my wife was very fluent.

    Paris is not like the rest of France.

    The French people I met were generally great.

    My favorite anecdote was when we holidaying on the Med. Youngest taken quite ill and the dr was great but we had to find a late opening chemist. Struggling to find it in Agde with not long to go before it closed I in desperation knocked on someones front door to ask directions.

    Bless the bloke, this place was a bit out of the way and we were struggling with directions, he insisted in getting in his car and getting us to follow him there.

    BTW woman on Sky has said she thinks a possibility the order might be wrong and Le Pen may inch into first place.
    I was staying in rural France (New Caledonia) once, about an hours walk from the nearest bus stop back to Noumea airport. The Gite owner turned up in his battered Renault to give me a lift at 0600, for free.

    Mind you the bus to the airport was quite something. Everyone other than Me and my companion was Kanak and drunk to the point of not being able to sit straight. It was a bit hostile until tbe Kanaks realised we were not French, when the mood lightened a lot. The rebellion was not long finished.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589
    edited April 2017
    I now make it Le Pen ahead in 52 departements, given there are only 96 home departements and 5 overseas in total that means she has won a majority of departements in France in the 1st round whichever way the popular vote turns out. Macron has 19, Fillon 9, Melenchon 6
    http://www.lci.fr/direct/
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited April 2017
    bobajobPB said:

    I have enjoyed many brilliant holidays in France (not Paris) and don't recognise this "rude and arrogant" stereotype. I speak a bit of French and have always found them a warm people. I suspect the myth is a consequence of red faced English people shouting at them in English.
    Parisian waiters are certainly rude. I assume its much better outside the capital.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    HYUFD said:

    I now make it Le Pen ahead in 52 departements, given there are only 96 in total that means she has won a majority of departements in France in the 1st round whichever way the popular vote turns out. Macron has 19, Fillon 9, Melenchon 4
    http://www.lci.fr/direct/

    Wait until the final results. Even in departments, rural votes are counted first.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Côte-d'Or int he East goes for Macron.
  • bobajobPBbobajobPB Posts: 1,042
    Charles said:

    I think you are muddling him up with @tyson. I believe @surbiton runs a small engineering company (machine parts?) in Surrey
    Some consider Surrey a foreign land
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    SeanT said:

    In my experience the French as a people have become nicer, as their influence in the world has declined (especially the language). I am pretty sure the two phenomena are linked.
    Last year in Lille was my first significant time in France outside of the Dardogne for 20 years. I was stunned at the difference. Previously, no-one in the hospitality industry would have been young, spoken English, or sound educated. Everywhere I went, not only were they all three, but pleasant too.

    That said, I have always found the French very nice outside of Paris. As a young 20-something traveling on my own and staying in small hotels, wherever I stayed, the owners invariably treated me as family.

    The only negatives about recent developments in France for me is that the food is sadly not up to its old standards, and particular, the bread.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    O/T

    Wintry weather to hit the UK in the next week.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    SeanT said:

    Careful. Some of those departements could change colour as larger towns now come in, after rural villages.
    If Cote d'Or can then others too.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,420
    Pulpstar said:

    I've backed max at 4-6 Labour there, but also taken 75 pence of my stake on the Tories at 50-1.
    The Conservatives would be over 500 seats nationally if they were to win Rhondda.

    Does 500+ have a seat band yet ?
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    SeanT said:

    In my experience the French as a people have become nicer, as their influence in the world has declined (especially the language). I am pretty sure the two phenomena are linked.
    Mind you I have walked out of a restaurant on the Med because of an arrogant and rude waiter who decided tourists were beneath him and he would rather ignore than serve:-)

    His employers loss, not mine.

    But generally people are fine in most countries I have visited.

    I have had a couple of scary times in a couple of French inner cities though.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589
    edited April 2017
    surbiton said:

    Wait until the final results. Even in departments, rural votes are counted first.
    Over half the votes are in now and Le Pen is even leading in the only departement in the Parisian Ile de France region reporting so far
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    AndyJS said:

    O/T

    Wintry weather to hit the UK in the next week.

    The shorts have come out the wardrobe, they ain't going back in there until September...
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    I'm amazed that we have yet another PB Manchester United fan from parts far distant to Manchester.
    I fully qualify as a Man United supporter. I do not live in Manchester.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    Good news Pulpstar, not one bit of black in Ile de France so far...


    There don't seem to have been any developments in the map for the whited out areas for a while. I do see changes in the count numbers in the shaded areas. What's up with the white bits?
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    HYUFD said:

    Over half the votes are in now and Le Pen is even leading in the only departement in the Parisian Ile de France region reporting so far
    what odds would you take on Le Pen to win the Parisian region?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589
    Nationally in the popular vote it is Le Pen 24.9%, Macron 21.84%, Fillon 19.48%, Melenchon 17.94%
    http://presidentielle.lepoint.fr/?p=compare
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    HYUFD said:

    Over half the votes are in now and Le Pen is even leading in the only departement in the Parisian Ile de France region reporting so far
    The projected shares of the vote are still comfortably for Macron. I think they know what they're doing.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,814
    edited April 2017
    MTimT said:

    Cantal, also
    True. And some of the islands, including Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon that I havenever heard of. 4000 voters elected Melenchon.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Still waiting for Marseille = Bouches-du-Rhône.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589

    what odds would you take on Le Pen to win the Parisian region?
    She won't win the Parisian region, central Paris will see to that but she will win 1 or 2 of the outer suburbs
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,022
    16/1 on Maguire to win at the Crucible looks generous.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589
    edited April 2017
    SeanT said:

    Careful. Some of those departements could change colour as larger towns now come in, after rural villages.
    A little perhaps but there are not that many big cities in France and she seems to be doing OK in outlying Paris suburbs
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Is it yet possible that Labour could split before the election? Could Trident be the issue that does it? Labour leader campaigning against the party's own policy manifesto?
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    27 million counted:

    Le Pen 24.11%
    Macron 22.42%
    Fillon 19.62%
    Mélenchon 18.39%
    Hamon 5.83%
    Dupont-Aignan 5.20%
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    edited April 2017
    MTimT said:


    There don't seem to have been any developments in the map for the whited out areas for a while. I do see changes in the count numbers in the shaded areas. What's up with the white bits?

    "Waiting for results".

    Maybe they want to get to a certain minimum before showing?

  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924
    HYUFD said:

    I now make it Le Pen ahead in 52 departements, given there are only 96 home departements and 5 overseas in total that means she has won a majority of departements in France in the 1st round whichever way the popular vote turns out. Macron has 19, Fillon 9, Melenchon 6
    http://www.lci.fr/direct/

    16.5 AVAILABLE ON bETFAIR

    I am on Macron @1.28 1st round (now 1.05)
  • alex. said:

    The projected shares of the vote are still comfortably for Macron. I think they know what they're doing.
    The Projections are, but the actual votes counted tell a different story - Le Pen on 25% and Macron on 22% (both rounded). And Le Pen is ahead in over half of the Departments. Are we watching yet another Polling/Sampling fiasco?
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    AndyJS said:

    27 million counted:

    Le Pen 24.11%
    Macron 22.42%
    Fillon 19.62%
    Mélenchon 18.39%
    Hamon 5.83%
    Dupont-Aignan 5.20%

    Interior Ministry results for 33.42m voters (69.47%):

    Macron 23.12%,
    Le Pen 23.06%
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589
    1st departement from central Paris in Hauts-de-Seine has Macron first and Fillon second so this may start to boost Macron a bit
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    The Projections are, but the actual votes counted tell a different story - Le Pen on 25% and Macron on 22% (both rounded). And Le Pen is ahead in over half of the Departments. Are we watching yet another Polling/Sampling fiasco?
    Probably not, Paris will go heavily for Macron.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    HYUFD said:

    A little perhaps but there are not that many big cities in France and she seems to be doing OK in outlying Paris suburbs
    HYUFD is desperate that Le Pen wins the first round. She will loooooooooooooose and will receive an almight shellacking in the second round.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,299
    edited April 2017
    bobajobPB said:

    I have enjoyed many brilliant holidays in France (not Paris) and don't recognise this "rude and arrogant" stereotype. I speak a bit of French and have always found them a warm people. I suspect the myth is a consequence of red faced English people shouting at them in English.
    I have a property in France and work there often. The rudeness and arrogance are real but to me charming and it doesn't affect their likability at all. it's just that they have taste and confidence in their own abilities.

    I remember Mitterand being interviewed on TV and the interviewer said that 'the polls show only 15% still have condfidence in you. What have you got to say?"

    He replied that as he had another 4 years as President that's their problem not his.
  • The Projections are, but the actual votes counted tell a different story - Le Pen on 25% and Macron on 22% (both rounded). And Le Pen is ahead in over half of the Departments. Are we watching yet another Polling/Sampling fiasco?
    The Aussie presenter just explained it. Big cities yet to be counted.
  • SandraMSandraM Posts: 206
    edited April 2017
    Has anyone read "French Rhapsody "by Antoine Laurain, which was published last year?If so, do you see any resemblance between its central character JBM, who becomes President,and Macron? Both are young, photogenic and have vague centralist policies and are seen as political outsiders.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    alex. said:

    Anyone find it vaguely surprising that the graphic at the bottom of this page

    http://presidentielle.lepoint.fr/

    actually defines the parties by their positioning on the left/right axis? I reckon there would be big complaints if the media did this in such a blunt way in this country?

    I remember a panel of talking heads on BBC Breakfast or BBC News 24 a few years ago which listed one participant as Far Right Conservative.

    After the broadcast ended the studio presenter turned to the camera and said "I apologise for the caption. It was a reference to where the candidate was standing on the platform".

    The damage, of course, was done by then.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589
    SeanT said:

    No it's not. Macron is now ahead. See the Interior Ministry tweets.
    Le Pen is ahead on the Interior Ministry site I am looking at
    http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/presidentielle-2017/FE.html
  • bobajobPBbobajobPB Posts: 1,042
    alex. said:

    Is it yet possible that Labour could split before the election? Could Trident be the issue that does it? Labour leader campaigning against the party's own policy manifesto?

    It would certainly be the best outcome, there really is no point the PLP fighting on a Corbyn ticket - for one, nobody will believe them!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589
    surbiton said:

    HYUFD is desperate that Le Pen wins the first round. She will loooooooooooooose and will receive an almight shellacking in the second round.
    I am just reporting the actual results, as I said I would have voted for Fillon not Le Pen
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    4 blobs fully declared for Le Pen now.

  • bobajobPBbobajobPB Posts: 1,042
    HYUFD said:

    1st departement from central Paris in Hauts-de-Seine has Macron first and Fillon second so this may start to boost Macron a bit

    Le Pen is now very long to win Round One - I won't be taking her even at these odds.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    edited April 2017
    From 37.59m voters (78.14%): Macron 23.41%, Le Pen 22.6%, Fillon 19.86%, Melenchon 18.85% - French Interior Min at 11:01pm #France2017 (their own website is behind!)
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,924

    Interior Ministry results for 33.42m voters (69.47%):

    Macron 23.12%,
    Le Pen 23.06%
    Mr HYUFD in some sort of parallel Universe tonight!!!!
  • bobajobPBbobajobPB Posts: 1,042
    Roger said:

    I have a property in France and work there often. The rudeness and arrogance are real but to me charming and it doesn't affect their likability at all. it's just that they have taste and confidence in their own abilities.

    I remember Mitterand being interviewed on TV and the interviewer said that 'the polls show only 15% still have condfidence in you. What have you got to say?"

    He replied that as he had another 4 years as President that's their problem not his.
    Ha, great answer.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,667
    MTimT said:


    Last year in Lille was my first significant time in France outside of the Dardogne for 20 years. I was stunned at the difference. Previously, no-one in the hospitality industry would have been young, spoken English, or sound educated. Everywhere I went, not only were they all three, but pleasant too.

    That said, I have always found the French very nice outside of Paris. As a young 20-something traveling on my own and staying in small hotels, wherever I stayed, the owners invariably treated me as family.

    The only negatives about recent developments in France for me is that the food is sadly not up to its old standards, and particular, the bread.

    The most-sold brand of bread in France is apparently Hovis, though that may be because bread is typically not branded (Hovis is bought in bulk by hospitals, schools etc.).

    Like others, I've always found the French pleasant too. I think there's an element of myth in the famous Gallic rudeness, like Scottish tightness or German humourlessness. It's never seemed to me that Western Europeans vary that much at a national level- each country has the same types though in different proportions.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,096
    bobajobPB said:

    It would certainly be the best outcome, there really is no point the PLP fighting on a Corbyn ticket - for one, nobody will believe them!
    United, Labour could win up to 150 seats though.

    If Labour splits then you're looking at a 31 scenario.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454

    Mr HYUFD in some sort of parallel Universe tonight!!!!
    just a little behind
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Total votes in 2012 were 35,883,209.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    edited April 2017
    At 23:05 CEST Macron 23.46% Le Pen 21.77%

    44 departments counted.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454


    4 blobs fully declared for Le Pen now.

    way more: https://www.thelocal.fr/20170423/interactive-map-of-the-2017-french-presidential-election

    they're fully declared rather than merely leading
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited April 2017
    Off topic Scotland observation.

    Last Survation poll prior to 2015 General election had 10/10 Certain to vote at 73.9% - actual was 71.1%.

    The latest Survation has 10/10 at 71.2% With a 2 percent point drop in 2014 Yes voters being 10/10
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,410
    After a two year gap, here is The Sunil on Sunday ELBOW (Electoral LeaderBoard Of the Week) for week ending 23rd April:

    9 polls, average:

    Con 45.67%
    Lab 25.78%
    LD 10.67%
    UKIP 8.44%
    Green 3.33%

    Tory lead: 19.89%
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    HYUFD said:

    Le Pen is ahead on the Interior Ministry site I am looking at
    http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/presidentielle-2017/FE.html
    You should look at the 2017 elections.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589
    edited April 2017

    Mr HYUFD in some sort of parallel Universe tonight!!!!
    Le Pen 23.37% Macron 22.96%, 69% in
    http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/presidentielle-2017/FE.html
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    19.89%? Pfft!
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658

    The Projections are, but the actual votes counted tell a different story - Le Pen on 25% and Macron on 22% (both rounded). And Le Pen is ahead in over half of the Departments. Are we watching yet another Polling/Sampling fiasco?
    Sampling fiascos might happen on the initial exit poll. They don't happen when validated by over half the vote.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,420

    After a two year gap, here is The Sunil on Sunday ELBOW (Electoral LeaderBoard Of the Week) for week ending 23rd April:

    9 polls, average:

    Con 45.67%
    Lab 25.78%
    LD 10.67%
    UKIP 8.44%
    Green 3.33%

    Tory lead: 19.89%

    PBers can tell their ARSE from their ELBOW.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589
    SeanT said:

    OK, that is confusing. Their website seems to contradict their tweets.
    Their website has the latest update not the tweets
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    Roger said:

    I have a property in France and work there often. The rudeness and arrogance are real but to me charming and it doesn't affect their likability at all. it's just that they have taste and confidence in their own abilities.

    I remember Mitterand being interviewed on TV and the interviewer said that 'the polls show only 15% still have condfidence in you. What have you got to say?"

    He replied that as he had another 4 years as President that's their problem not his.
    Mitterrand was supposedly asked by a journalist if he could call him "tu", to which Mitterrand replied "si vous voulez". Which was wonderfully acid.
  • surbiton said:

    HYUFD is desperate that Le Pen wins the first round. She will loooooooooooooose and will receive an almight shellacking in the second round.
    She will lose but you cannot dismiss her support which will give her continued influence in French politics. I do not support her or Nigel Farage and UKIP in any way but just this is a statement of the obvious
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Le Pen has won 7 departmentes so far, having won a single one in 2012.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Alistair said:

    I bet an order of magnitude less money than you as I knew the square root of FA about France and it's politics, but I got on the Melenchon train @37 and left @11 because I can read a poll.

    Only my complete ignorance stopped me diving onto the obviously mis-priced Macron as Iw as worried about not knowing about some non-existent show that was about to drop aka. The Rubio finished 3rd Now He's Odds on Favourite WTF Is Up About Jeb Bush's Price? effect
    I think this my best election ever. Hat tip @Chrisin paris, who tipped Macron and Fillon eearly on, so I got on at good odds. Perhaps I am too cautious as I layed off a bit to go all green in January.
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034

    19.89%? Pfft!

    Prediction of Labour vote?
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 18,163

    I expect a move into the EEA as a gateway to rejoining, but not for a while. We will have to wait for the Tory Europhiles to be ascendant again.
    That is almost certain never to happen.

    The original Tory Europhiles were a coalition of three types (note - these are not mutually exclusive):

    1. Those scarred by the personal experience of war who believed the EEC to be an essential component to delivering and maintaining peace in Europe and that Britain's involvement was therefore necessary given the huge national interest at stake.

    2. Those who believed that following the end of empire, Britain could lead in Europe and hence, via the EEC, enhance its global role.

    3. Those who saw the EEC as a useful means of increasing trade, wealth and economic stability.

    Of those, the first, to the extent that it was ever true, is mission accomplished. The second was viable up until Maastricht. Britain did lead in the completion of the Single Market but could not play any similar role outside the Euro after 1993. And while the third remains the core of the Tory Remain case, it's much weaker than it once was due to the scale of associated EU legislation. Unless there is an immense change in Britain's national position or in the nature of the EU, there will be no strong pro-EU Conservative case.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    HYUFD said:

    Their website has the latest update not the tweets
    Bloomberg are being fed direct. Their % counted is higher than the Ministry website.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,504
    Did everyone enjoy the plane flying over Wembley this afternoon? :D
  • surbiton said:

    If Le Pen ends up with 21.5%, is it significantly different from what her father scored in the first round ? For all the media management, the votes have not changed much.

    Once a racist, always a racist.

    But he stood 15 years ago

    Which means that sadly she is refilling the pot of supporters at least as fast as the grim reaper empties it.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,150

    I think this my best election ever. Hat tip @Chrisin paris, who tipped Macron and Fillon eearly on, so I got on at good odds. Perhaps I am too cautious as I layed off a bit to go all green in January.
    Yep, anyone who has kept up with the ebbs and flows of advice on PB would be green on this one by now. Thanks everyone.
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    SeanT said:

    OK, that is confusing. Their website seems to contradict their tweets.
    I have a feeling that they might be simultaneously giving out results and projections?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,150
    Daily Mail framing 2nd round as a FR version of Brexit vote.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    edited April 2017
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  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,096

    Daily Mail framing 2nd round as a FR version of Brexit vote.

    Lol Landslide for remain.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589

    Bloomberg are being fed direct. Their % counted is higher than the Ministry website.
    Bloomberg are missing reported results from over half the departements as far as I can see
    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-french-election/?utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid==socialflow-twitter-politics
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    alex. said:

    I have a feeling that they might be simultaneously giving out results and projections?
    That's what I was thinking.
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    @David_Herdson - So Brexit is John Major's fault for negotiating the opt-out from the Euro?

    (Your post was great)
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    MTimT said:

    Prediction of Labour vote?
    A sub-20 average Tory lead? It's almost disappointingly mundane.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,096
    Paddy Power has the Lib Dems at 4-6 in Cardiff Central btw.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,420


    Any Hemsworth news and do you have any opinion on whether EdM being MP for an adjacent constituency gave Labour a boost there in 2015 ?

  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited April 2017
    Whatever the rest of the result is, I'm still staggered that the candidate from the same party as the incumbent president is getting less than 6% of the vote.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,589
    70% in

    Le Pen 23.31%
    Macron 22.99%
    Fillon 19.74%
    Melenchon 18.64%
    Hamon 5.94%
    Dupont Aignan 5.08%

    Good news for RCS, DA almost overtaken Hamon!
    http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/presidentielle-2017/FE.html
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,150
    Anorak said:

    Whatever the rest of the result is, I'm still staggered that the candidate from the same party as the incumbent president is getting less than 6% of the vote.

    Indeed. Look on Labour and quiver.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    Pulpstar said:

    Paddy Power has the Lib Dems at 4-6 in Cardiff Central btw.

    Good one to add to my hedge.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Pulpstar said:

    Lol Landslide for remain.
    Also, LePen has been rowing back on her anti EU rhetoric recently, realising that it is a vote loser even with her own supporters. FN support is not all pro Frexit.
  • tlg86 said:

    Did everyone enjoy the plane flying over Wembley this afternoon? :D

    Why - was there something special about it !!!!!!!!!
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