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I'm not going to apologise for something I didn't do. I said your posts just echo Tory HQ lines, which they do. As soon as the Tory line changes, so do your views. It's just boring.CarlottaVance said:
Still not apologised for calling the Sutton Trust CCHQ?bobajobPB said:
Who is this Chukka of whom you speak?CarlottaVance said:
Which sadly isn't saying much these days......a party where Chukka is seen as a saviour.....yea gods!Sean_F said:
She's one of your better MP's.surbiton said:
Why was a Tory allowed in the Labour Party in the first place ? Imagine taking a selfie with Gingrich.bobajobPB said:
Hoey is an odious figure.williamglenn said:
Much obliged. I think you underestimate the anger against her in the constituency. Nigel Farage with a red rosette in London is not an attractive proposition.rcs1000 said:
Yes, of course.williamglenn said:
Can I have a tenner too if you're that confident?rcs1000 said:
You are also a wild optimist. I'll take your £10 too.IanB2 said:
You can put me down for £10 if you are opening a book?rcs1000 said:
You want £50 at 10-1 on the LibDem's winning Vauxhall?TheScreamingEagles said:
Can I have £50 on that?rcs1000 said:
Vauxhall was 80.7% Remain according to Hanretty. The LibDems start at 6.9%, 43% behind Ms Hoey.williamglenn said:
A target for the London Lib Dem Remain focused campaign to aim at.TheScreamingEagles said:Kate Hoey standing again in Vauxhall.
Mind you, if* they could pick up half the Remain vote, they'd be in with a chance.
I'll offer you 10-1 if you want.
* You can't see it, but that's a very big if.
Sure, I'll take your money.
https://twitter.com/katehoeymp/status/726782473330249728
Do you mean Chuka?0 -
I was in the bookies at 8 am to take the 10-1.Alistair said:The bet I thought I had placed on Lib Dems 10-19 and 20-29 were not placed. I hadn't clicked the final accept and continue button!!!
But wait...
Now the odds are now 4/1 and 7/2 respectively. That's better odds than the 11/4 I was going to put them on at...0 -
Jezza's son, Prescott's son, Benn's son....fighting the establishment.0
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I think all parties should have an eccentric non-conformist to add a bit of colour. Probably not wise to select that eccentric non-conformist as your party leader however.Artist said:[Kate Hoey's] past rebellion rate is actually similar to Corbyns. Her views on a range of topics differ from the party she is meant to represent.
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Of course the more seats you hold the more you have to defend. The trouble for opposition parties is that every time the pendulum swings away the more seats are beyond a standard swing. An election that gives May 400 seats would likely mean 300+ of them were all but impregnable.stodge said:
Well, I doubt the Conservatives will overturn Stephen Timms' majority of 35,000 or so.ToryJim said:https://twitter.com/conhome/status/855053817800536064
PM really means to attempt the electoral destruction of the Labour Party.
More seriously, the Conservatives were down to 165 seats in 1997 and it took them eighteen years to effectively double it.
Labour have not been sub-200 since 1945. Even if they fall to 165 or lower, that doesn't mean electoral destruction by any stretch. It will mean the Conservatives having to defend a lot of seats in 2022.0 -
I would have thought Theresa May voting against the repeal of Section 28 is potentially more toxic if this issue gains salience.Richard_Nabavi said:
Oh, absolutely.FF43 said:A liberal is allowed to think gay sex is sinful. The question is whether he imposes his view on other people.
However, many Liberal Democrats and their voters are not liberal about such a view, equating it with homophobia.0 -
Me too. I'm nicely green on all the realistic contenders except Le Pen, I probably won't commit too much the the GE until the French is over.Pulpstar said:
Me and Meeks do. We both have more money on the French than the UK right now.Sunil_Prasannan said:Who CARES about the French election? We have our own in seven weeks
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I'm hoping to plough my French election winnings into the British one.MrsB said:at a time like this you have a thread header about the FRENCH elections?????!!!!!!
Oh well, I suppose there's more money to be made betting on that than whether the Tories will win the GE here.0 -
Surely the response to a request for us to fund them relocating their agencies is "we're not asking them to leave".kle4 said:
Who are they saying this stuff for? Everyone agrees we should full cover our costs, surely, we just argue over what costs are our responsibility, and public sentiment on either side means little so why air in public to put pressure on?CarlottaVance said:The European Commission wants Britain to pick up the tab for any costs related to its departure from the EU, such as the relocation of agencies now hosted by the U.K., and bear the currency risk by paying in euros, according to a draft of Brussels’ negotiating plan....
...But it is the Commission’s approach to the U.K.’s ongoing financial obligations to the EU that stands out in the document, suggesting that Brussels wants to make it very clear that leaving the bloc doesn’t come cheap.
“The United Kingdom should fully cover the specific costs related to the withdrawal process such as the relocation of the agencies or other Union bodies,” the Commission wrote, adding that the U.K.’s financial obligations to the EU “should be defined in euro” rather than sterling.
http://www.politico.eu/article/european-commission-wants-uk-to-pay-brexit-costs-in-euros/
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Is the ALDE affiliation official? The EuropeElects feed always lists them without a grouping.Pulpstar said:
Round 1 of the French elections is Sunday, and the ALDE candidate looks in good shape !MrsB said:at a time like this you have a thread header about the FRENCH elections?????!!!!!!
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Maybe Corbyn is planning to hand over the reins to young Seb?0
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Which part of "leaving the EU" are you confused by?ThreeQuidder said:Surely the response to a request for us to fund them relocating their agencies is "we're not asking them to leave".
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@PolhomeEditor: Jeremy Corbyn's office insist claims his son Seb wants to stand in Liverpool Walton are "categorically untrue".0
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No, just no.
Joe Anderson, the mayor of Liverpool, has announced plans to stand as Labour MP in the constituency currently held by Steve Rotheram - who is in the running to become metro mayor for the Liverpool City region, the Press Association reports.
Rotheram, MP for Liverpool Walton, is Labour’s candidate for the new post of Liverpool City region metro mayor, due to be elected next month, leaving his seat vacant if he is voted in.
Anderson announced on Thursday he intended to stand as the Labour candidate for Walton in the general election on June 8 if selected by the party’s national executive committee.
Rotheram beat Anderson and Wavertree MP Luciana Berger to be selected as the Labour candidate for the mayoral role.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/apr/20/general-election-2017-corbyn-speech-greens-launch-politics-live?page=with:block-58f8b661e4b05776df18f747#block-58f8b661e4b05776df18f747
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No, because this is a litmus-test issue for quite a lot of exactly the type of voter the LibDems are trying to attract. That is why it is potentially awkward for Tim Farron, and why he refuses to answer the question.williamglenn said:I would have thought Theresa May voting against the repeal of Section 28 is potentially more toxic if this issue gains salience.
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The fact that Farron managed to write a scripted response doesn't change the fact of what his instinctive response was - his evasion clearly showed that the answer was "yes, but I can't admit it".kle4 said:
Like referring to any Tory action as a dirty trick?PClipp said:
Straight out the Tory Scumbag`s Handbook of Dirty Tricks, Mr Kle, following on from the baying pack of Tory MPs in the House of Commons yesterday. Keep repeating it often enough, and people will come to believe it.kle4 said:Should say that my Tory voting, but considering going LD acquaintance was also uncertain because they'd read Tim Farron thinks homosexuality is sinful - seems like they still need to get ahead of that whole issue and clarify his position some more, or it might cost a few crucial votes.
I have absolutely no patience for party supporters complaining when they are the subject of political tactics, unless they cross over into unlawful - if people want to argue the Tories are the worst at using such tactics, that is fine, but if they argue the tactics themselves are Tory, as though others do not use the same tactics, I have no patience whatsoever.
Political behaviour, not partisan specific, I am afraid.
On Farron, seems to be he did not help himself by apparently being unclear, when given his later response seems like he could easily have avoided this - never expect your opponents to give you a fair ride, and avoid the easily avoidable!
In case you are wondering, I informed my acquaintance of Farron's later comments on the matter.0 -
Re. Corbyn junior.
Will IPSA's new legislation preventing MPs from employing family members using public funds cover the dodge where McDonnell employs Corbyn Junior?
If not, it makes a mockery of the regulation.
Besides, I bet the appointment was fully above board, with many candidates interviewed for the job ... (laughs)0 -
It's possible to have offices in third party nations. Plenty of global organisations from outside the EU have offices in London so why can't the EU?Scott_P said:
Which part of "leaving the EU" are you confused by?ThreeQuidder said:Surely the response to a request for us to fund them relocating their agencies is "we're not asking them to leave".
If they want to relocate that's their choice not oura.0 -
So is that momentum betting plan being executed? http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/20/surge-in-bets-for-jeremy-corbyn-to-be-the-next-prime-minister-6585824/?ito=facebook0
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Shadsy is offering 200/1 on Seb Corbyn to be Jez's successor.0
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How many Global Organisations, that we are not members of, have their Headquarters in London?Philip_Thompson said:Plenty of global organisations from outside the EU have offices in London so why can't the EU?
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Good god! There's a name from the past!rottenborough said:((Dan Hodges)))Verified account @DPJHodges 3m3 minutes ago
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Real issue for many Labour MPs is whether Karie Murphy will be handed a seat.
Oh, those halcyon days of 'nothing to see here' in Labour Scotland and 'everything's fine'.......0 -
Yes and all sinners can be redeemed. Hate the sin; love the sinner. There is something about predestination in radical protestant sects however. Here I can plug one of my favourite novels, Confessions of a Justified Sinner by James HoggDavid_Evershed said:
Don't Christians believe everyone is a sinner or is that just Catholics?FF43 said:
A liberal is allowed to think gay sex is sinful. The question is whether he imposes his view on other people.Richard_Nabavi said:
His position is far from crystal clear. Unfortunately he was asked the wrong question, allowing him the easy get-out of saying that he didn't think 'being gay' was sinful. Well, of course not. That isn't the issue. The issue is whether he thinks gay sex is sinful, as many of his fellow evangelical Christians do.IanB2 said:And Tim's reply to the Tory hordes (and how hypocritical it was) was crystal clear. Even the guy who made the intervention looked humbled at the absolutely clear answer he got to his question.
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I think it's Catholics - for Protestants its 'not working hard enough'.....David_Evershed said:
Don't Christians believe everyone is a sinner or is that just Catholics?FF43 said:
A liberal is allowed to think gay sex is sinful. The question is whether he imposes his view on other people.Richard_Nabavi said:
His position is far from crystal clear. Unfortunately he was asked the wrong question, allowing him the easy get-out of saying that he didn't think 'being gay' was sinful. Well, of course not. That isn't the issue. The issue is whether he thinks gay sex is sinful, as many of his fellow evangelical Christians do.IanB2 said:And Tim's reply to the Tory hordes (and how hypocritical it was) was crystal clear. Even the guy who made the intervention looked humbled at the absolutely clear answer he got to his question.
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The EU isn't a 'global organisation' any more than the UK is.Philip_Thompson said:
It's possible to have offices in third party nations. Plenty of global organisations from outside the EU have offices in London so why can't the EU?Scott_P said:
Which part of "leaving the EU" are you confused by?ThreeQuidder said:Surely the response to a request for us to fund them relocating their agencies is "we're not asking them to leave".
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Not at all. The Conservatives lost seats in 1997 they had held for much of the post war period. Under the right circumstances, very few seats are impregnable.ToryJim said:<
Of course the more seats you hold the more you have to defend. The trouble for opposition parties is that every time the pendulum swings away the more seats are beyond a standard swing. An election that gives May 400 seats would likely mean 300+ of them were all but impregnable.
In fact, I would argue the theoretical Conservative floor in terms of seats is probably lower than the theoretical Labour floor.
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Not yet, but surely En Marche will join the group - they have no MEPs as of yet so no group. He might go for S7D I suppose but ALDE looks a natural fit.williamglenn said:
Is the ALDE affiliation official? The EuropeElects feed always lists them without a grouping.Pulpstar said:
Round 1 of the French elections is Sunday, and the ALDE candidate looks in good shape !MrsB said:at a time like this you have a thread header about the FRENCH elections?????!!!!!!
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Given your background Jack, can you advise on good books on the Cause and the RisingsJackW said:
Quite. The retro Nokia is about £40.malcolmg said:
Best to make it a cheap one as they are forever breaking themJackW said:
Indeed. But they occur despite all good intentions. A basic phone is a useful insurance.TGOHF said:
Imagine putting a 7yo in a horrible situation...JackW said:
Imagine a horrible situation that might have been avoided or mitigated had the seven year old had a basic phone.TheScreamingEagles said:
I kinda agree, but my mother keeps on mentioning it, she's the sort, if she could, would have kept me wrapped up in cotton wool until I was 25.Chameleon said:
For me, yes. I'd leave it until 10.TheScreamingEagles said:O/T -I need some advice.
What's the right age to give a child his first mobile phone?
It won't be an iPhone/smartphone, just a basic phone with a sim only deal so he can call his Dad or his grandparents in emergencies.
Is 7 years old too soon?
No brainer IMO.0 -
DMcCaffreySKY: #ge17: @Arron_Banks tell me, he will gracefully step aside in Clacton if @Nigel_Farage decides to run. Discussions ongoing.0
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Be grateful, someone needs to keep the bookies in business.ToryJim said:So is that momentum betting plan being executed? http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/20/surge-in-bets-for-jeremy-corbyn-to-be-the-next-prime-minister-6585824/?ito=facebook
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Has there been some new French poll? Emmanuel Macron is now as short as 1.78.0
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Farage v Hannan?Scott_P said:DMcCaffreySKY: #ge17: @Arron_Banks tell me, he will gracefully step aside in Clacton if @Nigel_Farage decides to run. Discussions ongoing.
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So the son has no confidence in his father?Scott_P said:@PolhomeEditor: Jeremy Corbyn's office insist claims his son Seb wants to stand in Liverpool Walton are "categorically untrue".
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Damn.
The odds on a Tory win in Lancaster and Fleetwood were just cut from 4/11 to 1/7 on Sportsbook as I was depositing the money to place the bet!
So annoying.0 -
The story in the Independent was on a Sutton Trust report - not a 'CCHQ line'bobajobPB said:
I'm not going to apologise for something I didn't do. I said your posts just echo Tory HQ lines, which they do. As soon as the Tory line changes, so do your views. It's just boring.CarlottaVance said:
Still not apologised for calling the Sutton Trust CCHQ?bobajobPB said:
Who is this Chukka of whom you speak?CarlottaVance said:
Which sadly isn't saying much these days......a party where Chukka is seen as a saviour.....yea gods!Sean_F said:
She's one of your better MP's.surbiton said:
Why was a Tory allowed in the Labour Party in the first place ? Imagine taking a selfie with Gingrich.bobajobPB said:
Hoey is an odious figure.williamglenn said:
Much obliged. I think you underestimate the anger against her in the constituency. Nigel Farage with a red rosette in London is not an attractive proposition.rcs1000 said:
Yes, of course.williamglenn said:
Can I have a tenner too if you're that confident?rcs1000 said:
You are also a wild optimist. I'll take your £10 too.IanB2 said:
You can put me down for £10 if you are opening a book?rcs1000 said:
You want £50 at 10-1 on the LibDem's winning Vauxhall?TheScreamingEagles said:
Can I have £50 on that?rcs1000 said:
Vauxhall was 80.7% Remain according to Hanretty. The LibDems start at 6.9%, 43% behind Ms Hoey.williamglenn said:
A target for the London Lib Dem Remain focused campaign to aim at.TheScreamingEagles said:Kate Hoey standing again in Vauxhall.
Mind you, if* they could pick up half the Remain vote, they'd be in with a chance.
I'll offer you 10-1 if you want.
* You can't see it, but that's a very big if.
Sure, I'll take your money.
https://twitter.com/katehoeymp/status/726782473330249728
Do you mean Chuka?
All you ever do is attack other posters - that's really boring.
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You forgot a few thereFrancisUrquhart said:Jezza's son, Prescott's son, Benn's son....fighting the establishment.
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@Peston: I hear @DMiliband spurns pleas from centrist Lab MPs to come back from US and "save Labour" by seeking re-election as MP0
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A progressive alliance could get good support among left-of-centre voters but would likely pile up votes where they are not needed
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/04/20/progressive-alliance-could-it-work/0 -
Will not be north of the border that is for sure, it is going to be Labour free zone.CarlottaVance said:
Good god! There's a name from the past!rottenborough said:((Dan Hodges)))Verified account @DPJHodges 3m3 minutes ago
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Real issue for many Labour MPs is whether Karie Murphy will be handed a seat.
Oh, those halcyon days of 'nothing to see here' in Labour Scotland and 'everything's fine'.......0 -
Among the election froth and euphoria, some serious issues need to be considered by all parties:
http://www.publicfinance.co.uk/opinion/2017/04/public-services-pressures-next-government-cant-ignore?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0 -
Take a look at Clwyd South, Newport West, Wrexham, Croydon CentralCasino_Royale said:Damn.
The odds on a Tory win in Lancaster and Fleetwood were just cut from 4/11 to 1/7 on Sportsbook as I was depositing the money to place the bet!
So annoying.0 -
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Pulpster, you manged not to choke on your curry I see.Pulpstar said:
Not yet, but surely En Marche will join the group - they have no MEPs as of yet so no group. He might go for S7D I suppose but ALDE looks a natural fit.williamglenn said:
Is the ALDE affiliation official? The EuropeElects feed always lists them without a grouping.Pulpstar said:
Round 1 of the French elections is Sunday, and the ALDE candidate looks in good shape !MrsB said:at a time like this you have a thread header about the FRENCH elections?????!!!!!!
Oh well, I suppose there's more money to be made betting on that than whether the Tories will win the GE here.0 -
Oh I'd love to see Farage routed in Clacton.Scott_P said:DMcCaffreySKY: #ge17: @Arron_Banks tell me, he will gracefully step aside in Clacton if @Nigel_Farage decides to run. Discussions ongoing.
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It's worse than that. It's like the goddamn Illuminati!malcolmg said:
You forgot a few thereFrancisUrquhart said:Jezza's son, Prescott's son, Benn's son....fighting the establishment.
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Labour overall majority 55/60MrsB said:at a time like this you have a thread header about the FRENCH elections?????!!!!!!
Oh well, I suppose there's more money to be made betting on that than whether the Tories will win the GE here.
Labour most seats 18.5/19.50 -
The Lib Dems would know all about dirty tricks.PClipp said:
Straight out the Tory Scumbag`s Handbook of Dirty Tricks, Mr Kle, following on from the baying pack of Tory MPs in the House of Commons yesterday. Keep repeating it often enough, and people will come to believe it.kle4 said:Should say that my Tory voting, but considering going LD acquaintance was also uncertain because they'd read Tim Farron thinks homosexuality is sinful - seems like they still need to get ahead of that whole issue and clarify his position some more, or it might cost a few crucial votes.
Farron's views on homosexuality are absolutely relevant as the leader of a liberal party.0 -
Be careful what you wish for. He might be feted as a Brexit hero and win the seat easily.ToryJim said:
Oh I'd love to see Farage routed in Clacton.Scott_P said:DMcCaffreySKY: #ge17: @Arron_Banks tell me, he will gracefully step aside in Clacton if @Nigel_Farage decides to run. Discussions ongoing.
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They say the past is another country - it certainly is in Labour Scotland - where a scrap over a Labour candidate selection threatened the future of Grangemouth - a true 'parcel o'rogues'!malcolmg said:
Will not be north of the border that is for sure, it is going to be Labour free zone.CarlottaVance said:
Good god! There's a name from the past!rottenborough said:((Dan Hodges)))Verified account @DPJHodges 3m3 minutes ago
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Real issue for many Labour MPs is whether Karie Murphy will be handed a seat.
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Wise move, a thankless and impossible task with a huge pay cut. Why would anyone?Scott_P said:@Peston: I hear @DMiliband spurns pleas from centrist Lab MPs to come back from US and "save Labour" by seeking re-election as MP
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OK then, as examples to expose that nonsensical logic, so you would expect it to be fine for the UK student loan company to relocate to Luxembourg? Or if UNESCO moved its HQ to Taiwan? Or the Organisation of American States based itself in Australia? It's NONSENSE.williamglenn said:
The EU isn't a 'global organisation' any more than the UK is.Philip_Thompson said:
It's possible to have offices in third party nations. Plenty of global organisations from outside the EU have offices in London so why can't the EU?Scott_P said:
Which part of "leaving the EU" are you confused by?ThreeQuidder said:Surely the response to a request for us to fund them relocating their agencies is "we're not asking them to leave".
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Imagine that on a 30ft high billboard in the centre of Birmingham and Manchester.ToryJim said:0 -
She voted for gay marriage though.williamglenn said:
I would have thought Theresa May voting against the repeal of Section 28 is potentially more toxic if this issue gains salience.Richard_Nabavi said:
Oh, absolutely.FF43 said:A liberal is allowed to think gay sex is sinful. The question is whether he imposes his view on other people.
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A nest of vipers for sure, they would make the mafia look like a charityCarlottaVance said:
They say the past is another country - it certainly is in Labour Scotland - where a scrap over a Labour candidate selection threatened the future of Grangemouth - a true 'parcel o'rogues'!malcolmg said:
Will not be north of the border that is for sure, it is going to be Labour free zone.CarlottaVance said:
Good god! There's a name from the past!rottenborough said:((Dan Hodges)))Verified account @DPJHodges 3m3 minutes ago
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Real issue for many Labour MPs is whether Karie Murphy will be handed a seat.
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She backed Remain. Who knows what she really thinks about anything?ThreeQuidder said:
She voted for gay marriage though.williamglenn said:
I would have thought Theresa May voting against the repeal of Section 28 is potentially more toxic if this issue gains salience.Richard_Nabavi said:
Oh, absolutely.FF43 said:A liberal is allowed to think gay sex is sinful. The question is whether he imposes his view on other people.
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The Lib Dems complaining about dirty tricks?PClipp said:
Straight out the Tory Scumbag`s Handbook of Dirty Tricks, Mr Kle, following on from the baying pack of Tory MPs in the House of Commons yesterday. Keep repeating it often enough, and people will come to believe it.kle4 said:Should say that my Tory voting, but considering going LD acquaintance was also uncertain because they'd read Tim Farron thinks homosexuality is sinful - seems like they still need to get ahead of that whole issue and clarify his position some more, or it might cost a few crucial votes.
LOL whatever next.
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Anyone can rat but it takes a certain ingenuity to re-rat.surbiton said:
Brilliant news. Teaches the c**t not to trust the Tories. Now he is maroooooooooooned.Richard_Tyndall said:Sad to see Douglas Carswell will not be standing again. Personally I think he has been one of the very best MPs in the last 20 years and has made a massive positive contribution to changing our country for the better by his campaigning over Brexit. A great loss to Parliament and the country.
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No Labour second referendum:
Mid-afternoon, however, the leaders’ office issued a statement, which definitively ruled out a second referendum as a manifesto pledge. “A second referendum is not our policy and it won’t be in our manifesto,” a spokesman said.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/20/jeremy-corbyn-john-mcdonnell-speech-establishment-people-brexit?CMP=twt_gu
Have the Lib Dems been clear yet on what they'll propose?0 -
None. They could choose to not relocate their agencies if they wanted.Scott_P said:
Which part of "leaving the EU" are you confused by?ThreeQuidder said:Surely the response to a request for us to fund them relocating their agencies is "we're not asking them to leave".
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Ah yes typical tory to lay into a person like that - oh waitsurbiton said:
Brilliant news. Teaches the c**t not to trust the Tories. Now he is maroooooooooooned.Richard_Tyndall said:Sad to see Douglas Carswell will not be standing again. Personally I think he has been one of the very best MPs in the last 20 years and has made a massive positive contribution to changing our country for the better by his campaigning over Brexit. A great loss to Parliament and the country.
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Any love for a Labour hold in Hove. 9/4 seems fair. Popular new MP. Demographics relatively favourable to a Corbyn led Labour?Richard_Nabavi said:
Take a look at Clwyd South, Newport West, Wrexham, Croydon CentralCasino_Royale said:Damn.
The odds on a Tory win in Lancaster and Fleetwood were just cut from 4/11 to 1/7 on Sportsbook as I was depositing the money to place the bet!
So annoying.0 -
Brexit means Brexit...ThreeQuidder said:None. They could choose to not relocate their agencies if they wanted.
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Indeed. The Election broadcasts will be even worse.FrancisUrquhart said:
Imagine that on a 30ft high billboard in the centre of Birmingham and Manchester.ToryJim said:0 -
ThreeQuidder said:
None. They could choose to not relocate their agencies if they wanted.Scott_P said:
Which part of "leaving the EU" are you confused by?ThreeQuidder said:Surely the response to a request for us to fund them relocating their agencies is "we're not asking them to leave".
And we could remain party to the EMA too. It's all part of the negotiation.
At least, it should be.
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A good piece. The reality is that government spending is going to start to rising a lot faster in the next Parliament whoever wins. Austerity has a natural limit and I fear we are at it.stodge said:Among the election froth and euphoria, some serious issues need to be considered by all parties:
http://www.publicfinance.co.uk/opinion/2017/04/public-services-pressures-next-government-cant-ignore?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_term=
We either get goodish growth (seems unlikely but not impossible) or we pay more taxes. There is so much here for a competent opposition to pin the Tory's more "optimistic" scenarios with. Not likely to happen in this election campaign though.
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LOL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4428940/MP-admits-election-NOT-changing-Government.html
"In an extraordinary TV interview, Helen Goodman said Labour's task was to constrain the size of the Conservative majority and not to win the poll."
Well, nice to see some honesty from a politician
Or is she just a fecking tory??
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Seriously, David ?david_herdson said:
The Lib Dems would know all about dirty tricks.PClipp said:
Straight out the Tory Scumbag`s Handbook of Dirty Tricks, Mr Kle, following on from the baying pack of Tory MPs in the House of Commons yesterday. Keep repeating it often enough, and people will come to believe it.kle4 said:Should say that my Tory voting, but considering going LD acquaintance was also uncertain because they'd read Tim Farron thinks homosexuality is sinful - seems like they still need to get ahead of that whole issue and clarify his position some more, or it might cost a few crucial votes.
Farron's views on homosexuality are absolutely relevant as the leader of a liberal party.
Tim is a committed Christian and that's fair enough and clearly you could argue there's more than one line in the Bible (the one I'm thinking of is somewhere in Leviticus) that opposes gay sex.
However, until and unless that becomes part of LD policy and politics, I really don't care. Many politicians, including those Conservatives who supported Section 28, have been on a personal journey and I respect all who have done so. Tim's parliamentary record isn't perfect but his personal beliefs (whatever they are) only become an issue when and if they become part of his politics and if he tries to inculcate them into party policy.
He hasn't to my knowledge. The Party stands full square in support of the LGBT community and all this is a bit of media obfuscation. Should we not hold Theresa May to the same standard ?
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It's madness for anyone to think that there won't be a final bill for us to exit the EU. It's also madness for the EU to pad out that bill. It might sound tough, and I'm sure you've wet your pants over it, but it's only going to be counter productive, as is any talk of us walking away without paying anything.Scott_P said:
Brexit means Brexit...ThreeQuidder said:None. They could choose to not relocate their agencies if they wanted.
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Bedford, 3-10.Richard_Nabavi said:... and Morley & Outwood at 1/4
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Wasn't there a comment about "Tory Scumbag`s Handbook of Dirty Tricks" down thread.DanSmith said:
That is positively Putinesque.0 -
Yes but leader ratings don't matter - oh :-)CarlottaVance said:Tim has been looking at the polls:
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Yes, I think that's fair. Certainly I'm not attracted to the Con side of the bet.midwinter said:
Any love for a Labour hold in Hove. 9/4 seems fair. Popular new MP. Demographics relatively favourable to a Corbyn led Labour?Richard_Nabavi said:
Take a look at Clwyd South, Newport West, Wrexham, Croydon CentralCasino_Royale said:Damn.
The odds on a Tory win in Lancaster and Fleetwood were just cut from 4/11 to 1/7 on Sportsbook as I was depositing the money to place the bet!
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OT. Interestingly for an area supposedly sympathetic to the far right I have yet to see a poster for Marine Le Pen without a Hitler moustache.0
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President of the EU Parliament meeting TM today endorsed the GE and the stability for negotiations that the election of a stable government will bring.
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Warrington either when the IRA killed children.FrancisUrquhart said:
Imagine that on a 30ft high billboard in the centre of Birmingham and Manchester.ToryJim said:
Labour have a majority of just under 9K in Warrington North. The Tories have the other seat.0 -
He so fecking deserves thatFrancisUrquhart said:
Imagine that on a 30ft high billboard in the centre of Birmingham and Manchester.ToryJim said:0 -
I was trying to work out the odds. If Macron fails the cut for the second round, I would think Fillon is nearly certain for the presidency - because Macron won't be there; and Fillon would win against Le Pen and Mélenchon in the increasingly unlikely event he makes the cut. In principle this would mean the chances of a Fillon presidency are almost correlated with the chances of Macron NOT making the initial cut.AlastairMeeks said:Has there been some new French poll? Emmanuel Macron is now as short as 1.78.
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So would IToryJim said:
Oh I'd love to see Farage routed in Clacton.Scott_P said:DMcCaffreySKY: #ge17: @Arron_Banks tell me, he will gracefully step aside in Clacton if @Nigel_Farage decides to run. Discussions ongoing.
I live in Thanet South
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Anti Le Pen activists know how to use a marker pen, and can travel?Roger said:OT. Interestingly for an area supposedly sympathetic to the far right I have yet to see a poster for Marine Le Pen without a Hitler moustache.
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Roger said:
OT. Interestingly for an area supposedly sympathetic to the far right I have yet to see a poster for Marine Le Pen without a Hitler moustache.
Put the pen down Roger...
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Ah yes, how our red colleagues so love democracy.DanSmith said:0 -
Is that real? It's going to be very hard to keep track of what's an official piece of communication and what's an enthusiast with Photoshop.ToryJim said:0 -
Not any morePulpstar said:
Bedford, 3-10.Richard_Nabavi said:... and Morley & Outwood at 1/4
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Exactly. This is another example of one side laying out a starting position for the negotiation.MarkHopkins said:ThreeQuidder said:
None. They could choose to not relocate their agencies if they wanted.Scott_P said:
Which part of "leaving the EU" are you confused by?ThreeQuidder said:Surely the response to a request for us to fund them relocating their agencies is "we're not asking them to leave".
And we could remain party to the EMA too. It's all part of the negotiation.
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The phrase 'toxic' is overused, but that's exactly what Jez & Mc'Donnell are going to be at the end of this campaign.FrancisUrquhart said:
Imagine that on a 30ft high billboard in the centre of Birmingham and Manchester.ToryJim said:0 -
Is there no one who could persuade tim to return here? It would add to the site's entertainment quotient immeasurably.CarlottaVance said:Tim has been looking at the polls:
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You seem to be a bit of a stuck record there, Mr P, as that doesn't remotely answer the point.Scott_P said:
Brexit means Brexit...ThreeQuidder said:None. They could choose to not relocate their agencies if they wanted.
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ConHome running total of MPs standing down - doesn't include Dave Anderson mentioned by the Courier
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Only if you consider 'we're leaving' to be a negotiating position rather than a statement of fact. I might like that to be the case but I'm surprised you seem to.ThreeQuidder said:
Exactly. This is another example of one side laying out a starting position for the negotiation.MarkHopkins said:ThreeQuidder said:
None. They could choose to not relocate their agencies if they wanted.Scott_P said:
Which part of "leaving the EU" are you confused by?ThreeQuidder said:Surely the response to a request for us to fund them relocating their agencies is "we're not asking them to leave".
And we could remain party to the EMA too. It's all part of the negotiation.
At least, it should be.0 -
A collector’s item. – CCHQ should have it printed on Mugs and coasters etc… #£4.99FrancisUrquhart said:
Imagine that on a 30ft high billboard in the centre of Birmingham and Manchester.ToryJim said:0 -
Did Gids not get you a job at the Standard ?Scott_P said:
Brexit means Brexit...ThreeQuidder said:None. They could choose to not relocate their agencies if they wanted.
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Brexit means Brexit is the only answer we have been given so far.ThreeQuidder said:that doesn't remotely answer the point.
There are a bunch of things that are going to change, some of which you won't like, as a result of Brexit.
If you voted for it, you won. Suck it up!0
