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The BBC are more balanced - Sky the CNN of the UKCD13 said:"I thought Sky had to provide balance but it is totally lacking from him"
To be fair to the BBC, they nay have a Metropolitan Liberal bias at times, but they do try be impartial. It only comes over occasionally in manner rather than in deliberate partiality.0 -
Hopefully, Theresa May will create a right wing dictatorship.williamglenn said:
They don't want sovereignty, just a strongman dictator.FrancisUrquhart said:The Donald would walk it in Stoke by the sounds of it....
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I thought he had already resigned as shadow Scotland a while agoBig_G_NorthWales said:Ian Murray labour's shadow Scotland Minister rebelled - sack him and no Scots based labour minister
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He was replaced by Dave Anderson.Alistair said:
I thought he had already resigned as shadow Scotland a while agoBig_G_NorthWales said:Ian Murray labour's shadow Scotland Minister rebelled - sack him and no Scots based labour minister
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C4 news was very bad.......
For Gareth Snell.
I cannot believe they picked a remainer. And one who is so chatty on social media too.0 -
You may be right but that is Sky reporting just nowAlistair said:
I thought he had already resigned as shadow Scotland a while agoBig_G_NorthWales said:Ian Murray labour's shadow Scotland Minister rebelled - sack him and no Scots based labour minister
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Ian Murray, resigned last June as shadow Scottish Secretary.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You may be right but that is Sky reporting just nowAlistair said:
I thought he had already resigned as shadow Scotland a while agoBig_G_NorthWales said:Ian Murray labour's shadow Scotland Minister rebelled - sack him and no Scots based labour minister
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To be fair it is difficult to keep up...SimonStClare said:
Ian Murray, resigned last June as shadow Scottish Secretary.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You may be right but that is Sky reporting just nowAlistair said:
I thought he had already resigned as shadow Scotland a while agoBig_G_NorthWales said:Ian Murray labour's shadow Scotland Minister rebelled - sack him and no Scots based labour minister
Rachael Maskell's departure is the 31st exit from Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet since he became leader in September 2015 and triggers the fourth Shadow Cabinet reshuffle.
January 2016:
1. Michael Dugher, Shadow Culture
2. Catherine McKinnell, Shadow Attorney General
June 2016
3. Hilary Benn, Shadow Foreign (or sacked)
4. Heidi Alexander, Shadow Health
5. Gloria de Piero, Shadow Youth
6. Vernon Coaker, Shadow Northern Ireland
7. Lucy Powell, Shadow Education
8. Seema Malthotra, Shadow Chief Sec
9. Ian Murray, Shadow Scotland
10. Lillian Greenwood, Shadow Transport
11. Kerry McCarthy, Shadow DEFRA
12. Charles Falconer, Shadow Justice
13. Karl Turner, Shadow Attorney Gen
14. Chris Bryant, Shadow Leader of the House
15. Lisa Nandy, Shadow DECC
16. Owen Smith, Shadow DWP
17. Angela Eagle, Shadow BIS
18. Maria Eagle, Shadow Culture
19. Nia Griffith, Shadow Wales*
20. Luciana Berger, Shadow Mental Health
21. Lord Basam*
22. Baroness Smith*
23. John Healey, Shadow Housing*
24. Pat Glass, Shadow Education
*Indicates they returned to the Shadow Cabinet
October 2016
25. Rosie Winterton, Shadow Chief Whip
26. Kelvin Hopkins, Shadow Culture
27. Paul Flynn, Shadow Leader of House & Wales
28. Grahame Morris, Shadow Local Govt
January 2017
29. Jo Stevens, Shadow Wales
February 2017
30. Dawn Butler, Shadow Diverse Communities
31. Rachael Maskell, Shadow DEFRA0 -
498 to 1140
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You can see why they struggle to keep up.SimonStClare said:
Ian Murray, resigned last June as shadow Scottish Secretary.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You may be right but that is Sky reporting just nowAlistair said:
I thought he had already resigned as shadow Scotland a while agoBig_G_NorthWales said:Ian Murray labour's shadow Scotland Minister rebelled - sack him and no Scots based labour minister
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498 - 114 -3840
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BNP used to do well in Stoke.williamglenn said:
They don't want sovereignty, just a strongman dictator.FrancisUrquhart said:The Donald would walk it in Stoke by the sounds of it....
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114
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2nd reading passes 498-114, maj 384.0
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Important question: how does that settle the various PB bets?0
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We'll need passenger-less cars because we will all be telecommuting.Richard_Tyndall said:
Sean seems to think that driverless cars will also mean passengerless cars. He really is a bit slow this evening.Cyclefree said:@SeanT: since you seem to think that we're all THICK, I will leave this statement that you wrote earlier here - "Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads" and let you work out, overnight, why you are talking rubbish.
PS I don't think you are THICK. A bit OVEREXCITABLE, possibly.
Still, I will be up early so am more than willing to have an argument with you when you wake up.
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Working from a paperless home office?rcs1000 said:
We'll need passenger-less cars because we will all be telecommuting.Richard_Tyndall said:
Sean seems to think that driverless cars will also mean passengerless cars. He really is a bit slow this evening.Cyclefree said:@SeanT: since you seem to think that we're all THICK, I will leave this statement that you wrote earlier here - "Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads" and let you work out, overnight, why you are talking rubbish.
PS I don't think you are THICK. A bit OVEREXCITABLE, possibly.
Still, I will be up early so am more than willing to have an argument with you when you wake up.0 -
I think Peter had <400 majority, no?ThreeQuidder said:Important question: how does that settle the various PB bets?
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Should have taken rcs1000's bet but glad I didn't. Love passing the first hurdle0
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Any news of Charle Faulkner?Big_G_NorthWales said:
You may be right but that is Sky reporting just nowAlistair said:
I thought he had already resigned as shadow Scotland a while agoBig_G_NorthWales said:Ian Murray labour's shadow Scotland Minister rebelled - sack him and no Scots based labour minister
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I've seen people book an Uber and ask them to deliver a package to the destination for them.Richard_Tyndall said:
Sean seems to think that driverless cars will also mean passengerless cars. He really is a bit slow this evening.Cyclefree said:@SeanT: since you seem to think that we're all THICK, I will leave this statement that you wrote earlier here - "Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads" and let you work out, overnight, why you are talking rubbish.
PS I don't think you are THICK. A bit OVEREXCITABLE, possibly.
Still, I will be up early so am more than willing to have an argument with you when you wake up.0 -
114 (as the Daily Mail will put) enemies of people...otherwise as Nos.0
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They now offer something like this as a service.williamglenn said:
I've seen people book an Uber and ask them to deliver a package to the destination for them.Richard_Tyndall said:
Sean seems to think that driverless cars will also mean passengerless cars. He really is a bit slow this evening.Cyclefree said:@SeanT: since you seem to think that we're all THICK, I will leave this statement that you wrote earlier here - "Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads" and let you work out, overnight, why you are talking rubbish.
PS I don't think you are THICK. A bit OVEREXCITABLE, possibly.
Still, I will be up early so am more than willing to have an argument with you when you wake up.0 -
WAS NUTTALL CORRECTLY NOMINATED FOR THE STOKE bY ELECTION? THERE SEEM TO BE QUESTIONS OVER HIS NOTIFIED ADDRESS. MICHAEL CRICK STRIKING AGAIN?0
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47 Labour rebels according to John Craig on Sky.0
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FrancisUrquhart said:
To be fair it is difficult to keep up...SimonStClare said:
Ian Murray, resigned last June as shadow Scottish Secretary.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You may be right but that is Sky reporting just nowAlistair said:
I thought he had already resigned as shadow Scotland a while agoBig_G_NorthWales said:Ian Murray labour's shadow Scotland Minister rebelled - sack him and no Scots based labour minister
Rachael Maskell's departure is the 31st exit from Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet since he became leader in September 2015 and triggers the fourth Shadow Cabinet reshuffle.
January 2016:
1. Michael Dugher, Shadow Culture
2. Catherine McKinnell, Shadow Attorney General
June 2016
3. Hilary Benn, Shadow Foreign (or sacked)
4. Heidi Alexander, Shadow Health
5. Gloria de Piero, Shadow Youth
6. Vernon Coaker, Shadow Northern Ireland
7. Lucy Powell, Shadow Education
8. Seema Malthotra, Shadow Chief Sec
9. Ian Murray, Shadow Scotland
10. Lillian Greenwood, Shadow Transport
11. Kerry McCarthy, Shadow DEFRA
12. Charles Falconer, Shadow Justice
13. Karl Turner, Shadow Attorney Gen
14. Chris Bryant, Shadow Leader of the House
15. Lisa Nandy, Shadow DECC
16. Owen Smith, Shadow DWP
17. Angela Eagle, Shadow BIS
18. Maria Eagle, Shadow Culture
19. Nia Griffith, Shadow Wales*
20. Luciana Berger, Shadow Mental Health
21. Lord Basam*
22. Baroness Smith*
23. John Healey, Shadow Housing*
24. Pat Glass, Shadow Education
*Indicates they returned to the Shadow Cabinet
October 2016
25. Rosie Winterton, Shadow Chief Whip
26. Kelvin Hopkins, Shadow Culture
27. Paul Flynn, Shadow Leader of House & Wales
28. Grahame Morris, Shadow Local Govt
January 2017
29. Jo Stevens, Shadow Wales
February 2017
30. Dawn Butler, Shadow Diverse Communities
31. Rachael Maskell, Shadow DEFRA
Charlie Falconer's resigned?0 -
Lab Whip Jeff Smith and frontbencher Daniel Zeichner rebelled on #Brexit0
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who?foxinsoxuk said:
Any news of Charle Faulkner?Big_G_NorthWales said:
You may be right but that is Sky reporting just nowAlistair said:
I thought he had already resigned as shadow Scotland a while agoBig_G_NorthWales said:Ian Murray labour's shadow Scotland Minister rebelled - sack him and no Scots based labour minister
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Really, is that all. I know the Independant's in reality no more and they need their fix but the cost per viewer of C4 news must be remarkable.ThreeQuidder said:
Yeah, I had that thought too.FrancisUrquhart said:Blockquote error on my part...I thought the "about 50" was talking about the number of people in Stoke who watch CH4 news...
C4News peaks at around 800k viewers, the UK population is around 65 million, the Stoke Central electorate is about 65k, so if C4News viewers are evenly distributed around the country, about 800.
In reality, they aren't and it will be less than that.0 -
Seven Welsh Labour MPs are thought to have voted against the Article 50 bill allowing ministers to trigger Brexit, in defiance of party orders.
Frontbencher Kevin Brennan, Chris Bryant and Madeline Moon join four others already known to be rebelling.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-38826291
What a shock Mr Underpants is there.0 -
Its stellar figures compared to the other lefty fest, Newsnight.matt said:
Really, is that all. I know the Independant's in reality no more and they need their fix but the cost per viewer of C4 news must be remarkable.ThreeQuidder said:
Yeah, I had that thought too.FrancisUrquhart said:Blockquote error on my part...I thought the "about 50" was talking about the number of people in Stoke who watch CH4 news...
C4News peaks at around 800k viewers, the UK population is around 65 million, the Stoke Central electorate is about 65k, so if C4News viewers are evenly distributed around the country, about 800.
In reality, they aren't and it will be less than that.0 -
As I said earlier the main shift has been Fillon to Le Pen, Macron is only up 1% in this poll, there are still 3 months to go until polling and if Fillon can squeeze back a little of the Le Pen vote and get his voters out he could go through to the runoff0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXypyrutq_MMortimer said:
Are you really far away? You seem to be shouty shouty this evening....theakes said:WAS NUTTALL CORRECTLY NOMINATED FOR THE STOKE bY ELECTION? THERE SEEM TO BE QUESTIONS OVER HIS NOTIFIED ADDRESS. MICHAEL CRICK STRIKING AGAIN?
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Looks like Brexit passed clear enough but given 100 MPs voted against invoking Article 50 a majority of MPs representing the 152 Remain seats voted against Brexit
https://medium.com/@chrishanretty/the-eu-referendum-how-did-westminster-constituencies-vote-283c85cd20e1#.f5i4ae39i0 -
LOLScrapheap_as_was said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXypyrutq_MMortimer said:
Are you really far away? You seem to be shouty shouty this evening....theakes said:WAS NUTTALL CORRECTLY NOMINATED FOR THE STOKE bY ELECTION? THERE SEEM TO BE QUESTIONS OVER HIS NOTIFIED ADDRESS. MICHAEL CRICK STRIKING AGAIN?
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Is it 2000 again?rcs1000 said:
We'll need passenger-less cars because we will all be telecommuting.Richard_Tyndall said:
Sean seems to think that driverless cars will also mean passengerless cars. He really is a bit slow this evening.Cyclefree said:@SeanT: since you seem to think that we're all THICK, I will leave this statement that you wrote earlier here - "Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads" and let you work out, overnight, why you are talking rubbish.
PS I don't think you are THICK. A bit OVEREXCITABLE, possibly.
Still, I will be up early so am more than willing to have an argument with you when you wake up.0 -
A lot of Welsh Labour MPs are probably at the "Fuck it, what the Hell" stage already. Between the party's dire polling position and the effects of boundary change, an election in 2020 would currently see nearly half of them gone - and that's assuming things don't get any worse.FrancisUrquhart said:Seven Welsh Labour MPs are thought to have voted against the Article 50 bill allowing ministers to trigger Brexit, in defiance of party orders.
Frontbencher Kevin Brennan, Chris Bryant and Madeline Moon join four others already known to be rebelling.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-38826291
What a shock Mr Underpants is there.0 -
So the Cliffs from Crick piece, Nuttall doesn't appear to have been living at the address he put down (when it filled in the forms), but is now. That can't stop him being on the ballot. However, in theory, if he wins, another party could complain and potentially the result nullified.
The only problem from the Vox pops on the streets of Stoke, it didn't sound like the public would be react favourably to that. In fact, Nutall might not be right wing enough for their tastes, they sounded like they would prefer The Orange one to be standing.0 -
329-112 on the programme motion, presumably Labour whipped abstention?0
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@ProfChalmers: A false statement as to a home address is a corrupt practice: section 65A RPA 1983. legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1983/2/s…
@ProfChalmers: If a candidate who is elected is guilty of a corrupt practice, his election is void: s 159. legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1983/2/s…0 -
I currently telecommute 50% of the time, although I won't be for my new job I start in a couple of weeks.matt said:
Is it 2000 again?rcs1000 said:
We'll need passenger-less cars because we will all be telecommuting.Richard_Tyndall said:
Sean seems to think that driverless cars will also mean passengerless cars. He really is a bit slow this evening.Cyclefree said:@SeanT: since you seem to think that we're all THICK, I will leave this statement that you wrote earlier here - "Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads" and let you work out, overnight, why you are talking rubbish.
PS I don't think you are THICK. A bit OVEREXCITABLE, possibly.
Still, I will be up early so am more than willing to have an argument with you when you wake up.0 -
Looks like a very successful evening for Theresa.
Any amendments passed with the bill?0 -
Next week when there is all that fun and games.GIN1138 said:Looks like a very successful evening for Theresa.
Any amendments passed with the bill?0 -
People don't like clever-dickery with election courts.FrancisUrquhart said:So the Cliffs from Crick piece, Nuttall doesn't appear to have been living at the address he put down (when it filled in the forms), but is now. That can't stop him being on the ballot. However, in theory, if he wins, another party could complain and potentially the result nullified.
The only problem from the Vox pops on the streets of Stoke, it didn't sound like the public would be react favourably to that. In fact, Nutall might not be right wing enough for their tastes, they sounded like they would prefer The Orange one to be standing.
If he won and it was taken to court and over-turned, he'd be re-elected with a larger majority I expect. Not least because I'd expect some parties not to stand.0 -
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Yes. Winchester again.Mortimer said:
People don't like clever-dickery with election courts.FrancisUrquhart said:So the Cliffs from Crick piece, Nuttall doesn't appear to have been living at the address he put down (when it filled in the forms), but is now. That can't stop him being on the ballot. However, in theory, if he wins, another party could complain and potentially the result nullified.
The only problem from the Vox pops on the streets of Stoke, it didn't sound like the public would be react favourably to that. In fact, Nutall might not be right wing enough for their tastes, they sounded like they would prefer The Orange one to be standing.
If he won and it was taken to court and over-turned, he'd be re-elected with a larger majority I expect. Not least because I'd expect some parties not to stand.
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@timfarron: Labour's leadership tonight waved the white flag. They are not an opposition, they are cheerleaders. Future generations deserve better.0
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Stoke Central has been Labour since 1922 with one exception (in 1931), so people there have a history of being pretty left-wing.FrancisUrquhart said:So the Cliffs from Crick piece, Nuttall doesn't appear to have been living at the address he put down (when it filled in the forms), but is now. That can't stop him being on the ballot. However, in theory, if he wins, another party could complain and potentially the result nullified.
The only problem from the Vox pops on the streets of Stoke, it didn't sound like the public would be react favourably to that. In fact, Nutall might not be right wing enough for their tastes, they sounded like they would prefer The Orange one to be standing.0 -
@jimbo3030: @UKLabour Congratulations on choosing your winning strategy of sharing 37% of the electorate with the Tories and UKIP.0
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I feel your painScott_P said:@timfarron: Labour's leadership tonight waved the white flag. They are not an opposition, they are cheerleaders. Future generations deserve better.
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Dear old Ken Barking mad to the end.dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/826880582504370176
Ken Clarke stuck to his guns.0 -
Got stuck in the toilets?Scott_P said:This would be too funny...
@paulwaugh: I told @HackneyAbbott abstained. Trying to check.0 -
Well thats how I remember the place from the brief time I lived in that part of the world many many moons ago, but all the people they found on the streets sounded like Hitler might get a fair hearing.AndyJS said:
Stoke Central has been Labour since 1922 with one exception (in 1931), so people there have a history of being pretty left-wing.FrancisUrquhart said:So the Cliffs from Crick piece, Nuttall doesn't appear to have been living at the address he put down (when it filled in the forms), but is now. That can't stop him being on the ballot. However, in theory, if he wins, another party could complain and potentially the result nullified.
The only problem from the Vox pops on the streets of Stoke, it didn't sound like the public would be react favourably to that. In fact, Nutall might not be right wing enough for their tastes, they sounded like they would prefer The Orange one to be standing.0 -
Which LibDem voted to Leave?GnomeinZurich said:
Dear old Ken Barking mad to the end.dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/826880582504370176
Ken Clarke stuck to his guns.0 -
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Awesome swatting Mr Urquhart – that list should set to the ‘periodic table song’…!FrancisUrquhart said:
To be fair it is difficult to keep up...SimonStClare said:
Ian Murray, resigned last June as shadow Scottish Secretary.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You may be right but that is Sky reporting just nowAlistair said:
I thought he had already resigned as shadow Scotland a while agoBig_G_NorthWales said:Ian Murray labour's shadow Scotland Minister rebelled - sack him and no Scots based labour minister
Rachael Maskell's departure is the 31st exit from Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet since he became leader in September 2015 and triggers the fourth Shadow Cabinet reshuffle. [snip]
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I had job where I theoretically worked at home 95 percent of the time....it gets tedious.rpjs said:
I currently telecommute 50% of the time, although I won't be for my new job I start in a couple of weeks.matt said:
Is it 2000 again?rcs1000 said:
We'll need passenger-less cars because we will all be telecommuting.Richard_Tyndall said:
Sean seems to think that driverless cars will also mean passengerless cars. He really is a bit slow this evening.Cyclefree said:@SeanT: since you seem to think that we're all THICK, I will leave this statement that you wrote earlier here - "Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads" and let you work out, overnight, why you are talking rubbish.
PS I don't think you are THICK. A bit OVEREXCITABLE, possibly.
Still, I will be up early so am more than willing to have an argument with you when you wake up.0 -
Unfortunately I can't claim that list to be mine. It was on the BBC website.SimonStClare said:
Awesome swatting Mr Urquhart – that list should set to the ‘periodic table song’…!FrancisUrquhart said:
To be fair it is difficult to keep up...SimonStClare said:
Ian Murray, resigned last June as shadow Scottish Secretary.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You may be right but that is Sky reporting just nowAlistair said:
I thought he had already resigned as shadow Scotland a while agoBig_G_NorthWales said:Ian Murray labour's shadow Scotland Minister rebelled - sack him and no Scots based labour minister
Rachael Maskell's departure is the 31st exit from Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet since he became leader in September 2015 and triggers the fourth Shadow Cabinet reshuffle.0 -
Basically the other parties can use his own words against himMortimer said:C4 news was very bad.......
For Gareth Snell.
I cannot believe they picked a remainer. And one who is so chatty on social media too.
https://order-order.com/2017/02/01/labour-stoke-candidate-brexiteers-confused-inward-looking-racists/0 -
Collectively known as the enemies of the people?dr_spyn said:0 -
@PolhomeEditor: I'm told Diane Abbott was ill tonight so did NOT abstain on the Article 50 bill.0
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Two were supposed to be going to abstain.rural_voter said:
Which LibDem voted to Leave?GnomeinZurich said:
Dear old Ken Barking mad to the end.dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/826880582504370176
Ken Clarke stuck to his guns.0 -
Tory Collaborators views don't really count.Scott_P said:@timfarron: Labour's leadership tonight waved the white flag. They are not an opposition, they are cheerleaders. Future generations deserve better.
Dim wont even rule out further collaboration with Theresa the Appeaser0 -
He'd be ineligible to stand again, wouldnt he?Mortimer said:
People don't like clever-dickery with election courts.FrancisUrquhart said:So the Cliffs from Crick piece, Nuttall doesn't appear to have been living at the address he put down (when it filled in the forms), but is now. That can't stop him being on the ballot. However, in theory, if he wins, another party could complain and potentially the result nullified.
The only problem from the Vox pops on the streets of Stoke, it didn't sound like the public would be react favourably to that. In fact, Nutall might not be right wing enough for their tastes, they sounded like they would prefer The Orange one to be standing.
If he won and it was taken to court and over-turned, he'd be re-elected with a larger majority I expect. Not least because I'd expect some parties not to stand.0 -
Yeah yeah yeah, and my dog eat my homework.Scott_P said:@PolhomeEditor: I'm told Diane Abbott was ill tonight so did NOT abstain on the Article 50 bill.
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Nige to the rescue....AlastairMeeks said:
He'd be ineligible to stand again, wouldnt he?Mortimer said:
People don't like clever-dickery with election courts.FrancisUrquhart said:So the Cliffs from Crick piece, Nuttall doesn't appear to have been living at the address he put down (when it filled in the forms), but is now. That can't stop him being on the ballot. However, in theory, if he wins, another party could complain and potentially the result nullified.
The only problem from the Vox pops on the streets of Stoke, it didn't sound like the public would be react favourably to that. In fact, Nutall might not be right wing enough for their tastes, they sounded like they would prefer The Orange one to be standing.
If he won and it was taken to court and over-turned, he'd be re-elected with a larger majority I expect. Not least because I'd expect some parties not to stand.0 -
Tim Farron stating the obvious in regard to Labour.
Re a point made by Pong FPT in regard to PB having a blind spot for the religious right. I think actually think it's just that some PBers have sympathy/share the views of the religious right - I mean comparing abortion to infantacide?! There is also this weird tendency at times to defend any and all things connected to the Right. As leftie, I don't need to defend all things connected to the Left. I know that not everything about my side is great.0 -
The SNP are now the feeble fifty. Ironic.GnomeinZurich said:
Dear old Ken Barking mad to the end.dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/826880582504370176
Ken Clarke stuck to his guns.0 -
No, he's entitled to his opinion. Just as the bastards were. I've always felt that thematically, history moves in cycles and were currently at the furthest point from KCs views. Query whether we always will be.GnomeinZurich said:
Dear old Ken Barking mad to the end.dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/826880582504370176
Ken Clarke stuck to his guns.0 -
Only one of the Eagles.dr_spyn said:0 -
YesFrancisUrquhart said:
Collectively known as the enemies of the people?dr_spyn said:0 -
They can answer, like all MPs, to their electorates. Which may affect their thoughts.FrancisUrquhart said:
Collectively known as the enemies of the people?dr_spyn said:0 -
Not necessarilyAlastairMeeks said:He'd be ineligible to stand again, wouldnt he?
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Can someone explain something to me here, please? Labour are saying that the fight continues? How and against what?
Assuming Article 50 is triggered (a reasonable assumption now?), then in two years or so Mrs May returns with a deal which will be voted on. The alternative can only be a WTO deal, Is that correct? Where do Labour come in? They will have to vote for one or the two. May's Brexit or Hard Brexit.
How can they possibly vote for Hard Brexit? Or am I missing something?0 -
Yup. It'll be like Phil Woolas all over again according to Professor Chalmers.AlastairMeeks said:
He'd be ineligible to stand again, wouldnt he?Mortimer said:
People don't like clever-dickery with election courts.FrancisUrquhart said:So the Cliffs from Crick piece, Nuttall doesn't appear to have been living at the address he put down (when it filled in the forms), but is now. That can't stop him being on the ballot. However, in theory, if he wins, another party could complain and potentially the result nullified.
The only problem from the Vox pops on the streets of Stoke, it didn't sound like the public would be react favourably to that. In fact, Nutall might not be right wing enough for their tastes, they sounded like they would prefer The Orange one to be standing.
If he won and it was taken to court and over-turned, he'd be re-elected with a larger majority I expect. Not least because I'd expect some parties not to stand.0 -
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I'm not sure an address issue would be reason enough to exclude, would it?AlastairMeeks said:
He'd be ineligible to stand again, wouldnt he?Mortimer said:
People don't like clever-dickery with election courts.FrancisUrquhart said:So the Cliffs from Crick piece, Nuttall doesn't appear to have been living at the address he put down (when it filled in the forms), but is now. That can't stop him being on the ballot. However, in theory, if he wins, another party could complain and potentially the result nullified.
The only problem from the Vox pops on the streets of Stoke, it didn't sound like the public would be react favourably to that. In fact, Nutall might not be right wing enough for their tastes, they sounded like they would prefer The Orange one to be standing.
If he won and it was taken to court and over-turned, he'd be re-elected with a larger majority I expect. Not least because I'd expect some parties not to stand.0 -
What I take issue with is his attitude, very Ted Heath. In that if you disagree with him you are deluded and/or irretrievably stupid.matt said:
No, he's entitled to his opinion. Just as the bastards were. I've always felt that thematically, history moves in cycles and were currently at the furthest point from KCs views. Query whether we always will be.GnomeinZurich said:
Dear old Ken Barking mad to the end.dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/826880582504370176
Ken Clarke stuck to his guns.
This from a man who cant dress himself.0 -
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IANAL, but I think the result of an election could be deemed invalid without the election being deemed to have been so invalid as to prevent a candidate from re-standing.
I'd appreciate expert input on this.
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https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/826881339605528576
Fair enough. Then your lot won't have to dither on calling that second referendum of yours, will you?
Well, come on then.0 -
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No Kinnock.bigjohnowls said:
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rcs1000 said:
We'll need passenger-less cars because we will all be telecommuting.Richard_Tyndall said:
Sean seems to think that driverless cars will also mean passengerless cars. He really is a bit slow this evening.Cyclefree said:@SeanT: since you seem to think that we're all THICK, I will leave this statement that you wrote earlier here - "Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads" and let you work out, overnight, why you are talking rubbish.
PS I don't think you are THICK. A bit OVEREXCITABLE, possibly.
Still, I will be up early so am more than willing to have an argument with you when you wake up.
I think the Goldman types here could be missing an opportunity.
Think of a small compact city state; high per capita GDP; an enlightened approach to traffic management; a political system sufficiently authoritarian to mandate a complete switchover to autonomous vehicles...
Negotiating a deal between Musk, Uber ?, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries ? and Singapore to set up a joint venture to develop the world's first completely autonomous traffic system might be quite rewarding ?
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I'm fairly sure that MPs in the last stage of terminal illnesses have voted before. On important votes and when you want a say you make the effort.dr_spyn said:Diplomatic illness...
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Amazing. My whole adult life (pretty much most of my entire life, actually) it's been the Tories who've been split on Europe.dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/826880416116260864
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Aren't we on the same side at the moment?bigjohnowls said:
Tory Collaborators views don't really count.Scott_P said:@timfarron: Labour's leadership tonight waved the white flag. They are not an opposition, they are cheerleaders. Future generations deserve better.
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Jezza is truly a special talent.Casino_Royale said:
Amazing. My whole adult life (pretty much most of my entire life, actually) it's been the Tories who've been split on Europe.dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/826880416116260864
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If it's deemed a corrupt practice - and it seems to be under s65A(1) of the Representation of the People Act 1983 - then anyone personally guilty of a corrupt practice is ineligible for election for five years (and if elected must vacate the seat) under s160(4) of that Act. "Personally guilty" means with the knowledge and consent of that person.Mortimer said:
I'm not sure an address issue would be reason enough to exclude, would it?AlastairMeeks said:
He'd be ineligible to stand again, wouldnt he?Mortimer said:
People don't like clever-dickery with election courts.FrancisUrquhart said:So the Cliffs from Crick piece, Nuttall doesn't appear to have been living at the address he put down (when it filled in the forms), but is now. That can't stop him being on the ballot. However, in theory, if he wins, another party could complain and potentially the result nullified.
The only problem from the Vox pops on the streets of Stoke, it didn't sound like the public would be react favourably to that. In fact, Nutall might not be right wing enough for their tastes, they sounded like they would prefer The Orange one to be standing.
If he won and it was taken to court and over-turned, he'd be re-elected with a larger majority I expect. Not least because I'd expect some parties not to stand.0 -
For a party so obsessed by referendums, the SNP show an extraordinary disrespect for the results of them.Black_Rook said:https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/826881339605528576
Fair enough. Then your lot won't have to dither on calling that second referendum of yours, will you?
Well, come on then.0 -
We're never on the same side as Labour. I look forwards to their demise with great pleasure. Unfortunately Jez has just saved them from certain doom by forcing the party to take up the cause of Brexit. The 47 traitors can be dealt with in due course.Casino_Royale said:
Aren't we on the same side at the moment?bigjohnowls said:
Tory Collaborators views don't really count.Scott_P said:@timfarron: Labour's leadership tonight waved the white flag. They are not an opposition, they are cheerleaders. Future generations deserve better.
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@MrHarryCole: It would appear that 14 serving Labour frontbenchers rebelled against Jeremy Corbyn tonight.... Massive headache to fire them all......0
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Even in 2001, people commuted from Earth to Moonmatt said:
Is it 2000 again?rcs1000 said:
We'll need passenger-less cars because we will all be telecommuting.Richard_Tyndall said:
Sean seems to think that driverless cars will also mean passengerless cars. He really is a bit slow this evening.Cyclefree said:@SeanT: since you seem to think that we're all THICK, I will leave this statement that you wrote earlier here - "Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads" and let you work out, overnight, why you are talking rubbish.
PS I don't think you are THICK. A bit OVEREXCITABLE, possibly.
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You youngsters.....Casino_Royale said:
Amazing. My whole adult life (pretty much most of my entire life, actually) it's been the Tories who've been split on Europe.dr_spyn said:https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/826880416116260864
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@AP_Politics: BREAKING: President Trump has left the White House on Marine One on an unannounced trip, White House has not disclosed his destination.0
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I seem remember John Major being ill when the cabinet were being rallied to vote for Maggie shortly before she was deposed.glw said:
I'm fairly sure that MPs in the last stage of terminal illnesses have voted before. On important votes and when you want a say you make the effort.dr_spyn said:Diplomatic illness...
https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/826884802276122624
Maybe she has been sitting at his knee.0
