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Those EU accounts are gonna require some mighty impressive creativity.RobD said:
The UK's exit leaves a far bigger black hole.MarkHopkins said:OldKingCole said:I see both Farage and Doc Nuttall have fallen foul of European Parliament regulations and may well have to pay back considerable sums.
The EU's revenge...
Chance of EU accounts being signed off post Brexit? Nil....0 -
It is my basis for the 8/1 on UKIP less than 20% from Shadsy, as well as Laying UKIP on Betfair.isam said:
Want to bet?foxinsoxuk said:
I think that Tories will be second, ahead of the kippers.isam said:
Well I agree that the Conservatives would be shorter if 47% of the market is kept off the ballotfoxinsoxuk said:
Sure, he is a bit of a prat, but I didn't think his tweets that bad.isam said:
Thanks.. yeah I did that vis his wife, but there was nothing that bad. Glad someone else found them though, what a prat.foxinsoxuk said:
Gill Troughton is straight though.isam said:Gareth Snell's Ratners moment... it was always going to happen, Glad I didn't go all in on Labour
Still 50/50 in my book
Finding Snell's deleted tweets is actually fairly easy. look at his followers, find one who is another Stoke Labour party member and look for retweets.
Half the reason I didn't stand for UKIP in the end was I knew I would be confronted with Enoch Powell quotes from here (even though isam isn't my real name!)
I don't think either byelection will be dominated by Brexit. That is a done deal and the electorate has moved back to more mundane issues.
What does UKIP offer the people of Stoke that Mays Conservatives do not? I think the Tories are too long there, particularly if the carpetbagger kipper is off the ballot.
I have enough exposure for the moment, but what odds do you have in mind?0 -
White supremacist, principal Trump adviser and National Security Council member Steve Bannon predicts US war with China:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-steve-bannon-china-south-sea-war-chinese-us-president-special-counsellor-a7556546.html
It's great to be walking hand in hard with the Trump regime and to be providing such leadership for the world. Should make it very simple to get great trade deals.0 -
@SeanT: since you seem to think that we're all THICK, I will leave this statement that you wrote earlier here - "Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads" and let you work out, overnight, why you are talking rubbish.
PS I don't think you are THICK. A bit OVEREXCITABLE, possibly.
Still, I will be up early so am more than willing to have an argument with you when you wake up.
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The US pays $670m/year according to the UN, 22% of the budget.AlsoIndigo said:
If he cuts their money, the UN is dead, the US pays for over half the cost of the whole operation, and Trump isn't the sort of president to see much value in the UN. If they were smart they would keep very quiet over the next 4-8 years and hope he doesnt notice the 4ish billion dollars the US throws them every year.malcolmg said:
If he cuts their money , the big salaries and huge expenses are out the window. They may want to watch what they wish for.AlsoIndigo said:
Not sure how that will gowilliamglenn said:https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/826834155392602112
How soon could the big showdown between Trump and the UN come?
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/us-pays-3b-un-more-185-other-countries-combined
http://daccess-ods.un.org/access.nsf/Get?Open&DS=ST/ADM/SER.B/910&Lang=E0 -
The Guardian on-line has started to ask for money at every opportunity, it’s odd to regularly see a begging letter appear during their live commentary feeds.FrancisUrquhart said:Heavy losses feared as The Guardian forecasts it will burn £90m in cash this year
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/02/01/heavy-losses-feared-guardian-forecasts-will-burn-90m-cash-year/
Things are in bad shape, that’s for sure. - And good evening all.
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Four points:SeanT said:
Jesus FUCKING Christ PB-ers are THICK.Cyclefree said:
If people are still driving but in driverless - and apparently much cheaper - cars, how will traffic problems have been solved?
There will probably be advances in pollution control. That is a good thing. But a bit of healthy scepticism is in order. Remember when diesel cars were seen as the answer to our pollution issues?
This is how it works. Driverless cars are all linked to one system. Because they are computers. They will be instructed to slow down or speed up by Overall Traffic Control as and when traffic demands, the way human drivers are told to slow down or speed up on motorways - but humans are unreliable, computers always obey.
This will, by itself, immeasurably improve traffic in cities. Your driverless car will work out the best way to your destination, that maximises traffic flow FOR EVERYONE.
Driverless cars are electric = no pollution. Roads will be emptier without all the crap that goes with human cars, petrol stations etc. Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads. On and on and on. There won't be parked cars clogging roads, almost no one will have private cars, the way no one has a carriage and horses today, or stables in the mews.
I often forget that the mental age of PB is 82.
1) You are talking about a different thing: an Overall Traffic Control will be useful, but irrelevant for autonomous cars. In fact, many people were (and perhaps still are) looking at beacons on cars, so all cars will know what other cars around them are about to do, or even warn each other of hazards (someone about to step off the pavement ahead; a cyclist fifty yards up the road). There are massive issues with this (e.g. spoofing), as there would be with OTC.
2) "Driverless cars are electric". LOL. They may be, but they don't have to be - the propulsion system is irrelevant. I await for the first autonomous steam car with combined turbine.
3) You are on firmer ground with your penultimate paragraph. If/when level-5 autonomous cars come along, it will be truly transformative, although you haven't necessarily thought through many of the implications.
4) If the mental age of PB is 82, then the level of alcohol in your system must be well over 82 milligrams per 100 millilitres of blood.
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And another one goes...
@iainjwatson: I understand Rachael Maskell is prepared to leave the labour front bench (shadow Defra) over voting against article 50.0 -
@SkyNewsBreak: Labour MPs Rachael Maskell and Dawn Butler have resigned from the Shadow Cabinet over vote to trigger the formal process of leaving the EU0
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The fact Dawn "Obama Best Friend" Butler is in the Shadow Cabinet says a lot about the lack of quality...Scott_P said:@SkyNewsBreak: Labour MPs Rachael Maskell and Dawn Butler have resigned from the Shadow Cabinet over vote to trigger the formal process of leaving the EU
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I'll offer 5/2 Tories bt UKIP on votes on the day. Both parties have to stand, bet settled on votes declared at the count.foxinsoxuk said:
It is my basis for the 8/1 on UKIP less than 20% from Shadsy, as well as Laying UKIP on Betfair.isam said:
Want to bet?foxinsoxuk said:
I think that Tories will be second, ahead of the kippers.isam said:
Well I agree that the Conservatives would be shorter if 47% of the market is kept off the ballotfoxinsoxuk said:
Sure, he is a bit of a prat, but I didn't think his tweets that bad.isam said:
Thanks.. yeah I did that vis his wife, but there was nothing that bad. Glad someone else found them though, what a prat.foxinsoxuk said:
Gill Troughton is straight though.isam said:Gareth Snell's Ratners moment... it was always going to happen, Glad I didn't go all in on Labour
Still 50/50 in my book
Finding Snell's deleted tweets is actually fairly easy. look at his followers, find one who is another Stoke Labour party member and look for retweets.
Half the reason I didn't stand for UKIP in the end was I knew I would be confronted with Enoch Powell quotes from here (even though isam isn't my real name!)
I don't think either byelection will be dominated by Brexit. That is a done deal and the electorate has moved back to more mundane issues.
What does UKIP offer the people of Stoke that Mays Conservatives do not? I think the Tories are too long there, particularly if the carpetbagger kipper is off the ballot.
I have enough exposure for the moment, but what odds do you have in mind?0 -
The Labour rebellion seems to be spreading.0
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Mr. Observer, leaving aside other (significant) considerations, it'd be interesting to see Japan's response to a theoretical US-China war over, say, the South China Sea land grab.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3VqF2dXje00 -
It has been 0 days since the last Labour reshuffle...0
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Scott_P said:
@SkyNewsBreak: Labour MPs Rachael Maskell and Dawn Butler have resigned from the Shadow Cabinet over vote to trigger the formal process of leaving the EU
So they're allowed to exercise their right to Leave the Shadow Cabinet, in order to try and stop us exercising our right to Leave the EU...
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Those EU accounts are gonna require some mighty impressive creativity.RobD said:
The UK's exit leaves a far bigger black hole.MarkHopkins said:OldKingCole said:I see both Farage and Doc Nuttall have fallen foul of European Parliament regulations and may well have to pay back considerable sums.
The EU's revenge...
Chance of EU accounts being signed off post Brexit? Nil....0 -
Yes, a surprising number of them have discovered representative democracy.Richard_Nabavi said:The Labour rebellion seems to be spreading.
Of course if they vote against triggering, they may lose their seat.
If they vote for it, they may lose their seat.
Tough call...0 -
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Quotation marks missing around "work"?dr_spyn said: 0 -
Best to vote the way you believe in if the outcomes are the sameScott_P said:
Yes, a surprising number of them have discovered representative democracy.Richard_Nabavi said:The Labour rebellion seems to be spreading.
Of course if they vote against triggering, they may lose their seat.
If they vote for it, they may lose their seat.
Tough call...0 -
Yebbut they voted to give us a referendum, and ultimately they are accountable to us, the people.Scott_P said:
Yes, a surprising number of them have discovered representative democracy.Richard_Nabavi said:The Labour rebellion seems to be spreading.
Of course if they vote against triggering, they may lose their seat.
If they vote for it, they may lose their seat.
Tough call...0 -
And so, as predicted, Europe once again causes the Tory Party to meltdown, with....hang on a minute....Scott_P said:
Yes, a surprising number of them have discovered representative democracy.Richard_Nabavi said:The Labour rebellion seems to be spreading.
Of course if they vote against triggering, they may lose their seat.
If they vote for it, they may lose their seat.
Tough call...0 -
in a poundshop.Sunil_Prasannan said:0 -
US also pays for most of the peacekeeping which is a separate budget totalling to an additional contribution of $2.402 billion last year.rcs1000 said:
The US pays $670m/year according to the UN, 22% of the budget.AlsoIndigo said:
If he cuts their money, the UN is dead, the US pays for over half the cost of the whole operation, and Trump isn't the sort of president to see much value in the UN. If they were smart they would keep very quiet over the next 4-8 years and hope he doesnt notice the 4ish billion dollars the US throws them every year.malcolmg said:
If he cuts their money , the big salaries and huge expenses are out the window. They may want to watch what they wish for.AlsoIndigo said:
Not sure how that will gowilliamglenn said:https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/826834155392602112
How soon could the big showdown between Trump and the UN come?
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/us-pays-3b-un-more-185-other-countries-combined
http://daccess-ods.un.org/access.nsf/Get?Open&DS=ST/ADM/SER.B/910&Lang=E
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/us-pays-3b-un-more-185-other-countries-combined0 -
The impact of AVs on total veh-km is very uncertain, but there is a strong chance they will lead to an increase, and hence more congestion.JosiasJessop said:
Four points:SeanT said:
Jesus FUCKING Christ PB-ers are THICK.Cyclefree said:
If people are still driving but in driverless - and apparently much cheaper - cars, how will traffic problems have been solved?
There will probably be advances in pollution control. That is a good thing. But a bit of healthy scepticism is in order. Remember when diesel cars were seen as the answer to our pollution issues?
This is how it works. Driverless cars are all linked to one system. Because they are computers. They will be instructed to slow down or speed up by Overall Traffic Control as and when traffic demands, the way human drivers are told to slow down or speed up on motorways - but humans are unreliable, computers always obey.
This will, by itself, immeasurably improve traffic in cities. Your driverless car will work out the best way to your destination, that maximises traffic flow FOR EVERYONE.
Driverless cars are electric = no pollution. Roads will be emptier without all the crap that goes with human cars, petrol stations etc. Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads. On and on and on. There won't be parked cars clogging roads, almost no one will have private cars, the way no one has a carriage and horses today, or stables in the mews.
I often forget that the mental age of PB is 82.
1) You are talking about a different thing: an Overall Traffic Control will be useful, but irrelevant for autonomous cars. In fact, many people were (and perhaps still are) looking at beacons on cars, so all cars will know what other cars around them are about to do, or even warn each other of hazards (someone about to step off the pavement ahead; a cyclist fifty yards up the road). There are massive issues with this (e.g. spoofing), as there would be with OTC.
2) "Driverless cars are electric". LOL. They may be, but they don't have to be - the propulsion system is irrelevant. I await for the first autonomous steam car with combined turbine.
3) You are on firmer ground with your penultimate paragraph. If/when level-5 autonomous cars come along, it will be truly transformative, although you haven't necessarily thought through many of the implications.
4) If the mental age of PB is 82, then the level of alcohol in your system must be well over 82 milligrams per 100 millilitres of blood.
Enjoy yourself!
We currently have a problem with high numbers of single occupancy car trips. Encouraging car sharing, for example by laying out HOV lanes, is one design response to this.
AVs make the problem worse because they generate zero car occupancy trips. I wouldn't buy shares in car park operators though.-1 -
Is someone keeping a running total of Shadow Cabinet resignations since Corbyn became leader? It must be a Guinness Book of Records entry by now.0
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Mr. Nabavi, Corbyn is putting socialism into action by having everyone in the PLP be a Shadow Cabinet member at one point or another. Truly, a champion of equality.0
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FINALLY, an AV thread!!!!Bromptonaut said:
The impact of AVs on total veh-km is very uncertain, but there is a strong chance they will lead to an increase, and hence more congestion.
We currently have a problem with high numbers of single occupancy car trips. Encouraging car sharing, for example by laying out HOV lanes, is one design response to this.
AVs make the problem worse because they generate zero car occupancy trips. I wouldn't buy shares in car park operators though.
Ah, my coat!
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Paul Waugh tweeting more resignations to come..0
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Indeed. There are so many malcontents in the PLP that one wonders whether he can find enough MPs left who are willing to fill all the shadow ministerial positions? They'll be like the LibDems before much longer, doubling up and looking for more recruits in the Lords.Richard_Nabavi said:Is someone keeping a running total of Shadow Cabinet resignations since Corbyn became leader? It must be a Guinness Book of Records entry by now.
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Dawn Butler resigning to spend more
with her familyin the jacuzzi bath we paid for.0 -
Do Labour MPs that have resigned twice, count as one or two..?Richard_Nabavi said:Is someone keeping a running total of Shadow Cabinet resignations since Corbyn became leader? It must be a Guinness Book of Records entry by now.
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Is it like Costa, 5 resignations and you get a free one?SimonStClare said:
Do Labour MPs that have resigned twice, count as one or two..?Richard_Nabavi said:Is someone keeping a running total of Shadow Cabinet resignations since Corbyn became leader? It must be a Guinness Book of Records entry by now.
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Two, I think.SimonStClare said:
Do Labour MPs that have resigned twice, count as one or two..?Richard_Nabavi said:Is someone keeping a running total of Shadow Cabinet resignations since Corbyn became leader? It must be a Guinness Book of Records entry by now.
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Ha! Another career opportunity for @Pulpstar 's fabled cat beckons?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Nabavi, Corbyn is putting socialism into action by having everyone in the PLP be a Shadow Cabinet member at one point or another. Truly, a champion of equality.
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How would an automated language translation AI translate a sentence that was written to be delibertly ambiguous in the language it is written in but the target language to be translated to does not have the grammatical structures to replicate that same ambiguity.0
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SeanT said:
I'd have a look at the problems with signalling systems on railways, an infinitely simpler system. Then curb your priapism.Cyclefree said:
Jesus FUCKING Christ PB-ers are THICK.SeanT said:
If people are still driving but in driverless - and apparently much cheaper - cars, how will traffic problems have been solved?OldKingCole said:
These thioblems, and most of your traffic problems. Miraculous.SeanT said:
I’m still mind-boggl;ing over a mix of driverless cars and motor-si taxis in Bangkok.Cyclefree said:
I agree. Imanure, and pure finders, and livery, and coaching inns.SeanT said:
No doubt. But there are downsides even to technologies of the future.TheScreamingEagles said:
No, theckly.SeanT said:Whatevne security hack away from joining the Microsoft Zune.
Look at email: all those things set down which should have been said not recorded electronically. There are bankers in prison ruing the day they ever used email or chat or text etc.
Personally, I like driving. I enjoy being in control in my own space with my own music. I like having a beautiful looking car. I hate being a passenger.
There will probably be advances in pollution control. That is a good thing. But a bit of healthy scepticism is in order. Remember when diesel cars were seen as the answer to our pollution issues?
This is how it works. Driverless cars are all linked to one system. Because they are computers. They will be instructed to slow down or speed up by Overall Traffic Control as and when traffic demands, the way human drivers are told to slow down or speed up on motorways - but humans are unreliable, computers always obey.
This will, by itself, immeasurably improve traffic in cities. Your driverless car will work out the best way to your destination, that maximises traffic flow FOR EVERYONE.
Driverless cars are electric = no pollution. Roads will be emptier without all the crap that goes with human cars, petrol stations etc. Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads. On and on and on. There won't be parked cars clogging roads, almost no one will have private cars, the way no one has a carriage and horses today, or stables in the mews.
I often forget that the mental age of PB is 82.0 -
https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/826863673994002432Jobabob said:
Ha! Another career opportunity for @Pulpstar 's fabled cat beckons?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Nabavi, Corbyn is putting socialism into action by having everyone in the PLP be a Shadow Cabinet member at one point or another. Truly, a champion of equality.
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I wonder if Mike's had an advance preview.
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Jenny Chapman is awful.
Who's the young chap to her left?0 -
A simple and clear policy platform. One to watch.Pulpstar said:
https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/826863673994002432Jobabob said:
Ha! Another career opportunity for @Pulpstar 's fabled cat beckons?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Nabavi, Corbyn is putting socialism into action by having everyone in the PLP be a Shadow Cabinet member at one point or another. Truly, a champion of equality.
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Could cause split in Lab AND LD (remember them).MarqueeMark said:
And so, as predicted, Europe once again causes the Tory Party to meltdown, with....hang on a minute....Scott_P said:
Yes, a surprising number of them have discovered representative democracy.Richard_Nabavi said:The Labour rebellion seems to be spreading.
Of course if they vote against triggering, they may lose their seat.
If they vote for it, they may lose their seat.
Tough call...
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Dr. Spyn, if they go, there will be trouble.0
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"The U.S. contribution to the separate, and much larger, peacekeeping budget is 28.36 percent this year"AlsoIndigo said:
US also pays for most of the peacekeeping which is a separate budget totalling to an additional contribution of $2.402 billion last year.rcs1000 said:
The US pays $670m/year according to the UN, 22% of the budget.AlsoIndigo said:
If he cuts their money, the UN is dead, the US pays for over half the cost of the whole operation, and Trump isn't the sort of president to see much value in the UN. If they were smart they would keep very quiet over the next 4-8 years and hope he doesnt notice the 4ish billion dollars the US throws them every year.malcolmg said:
If he cuts their money , the big salaries and huge expenses are out the window. They may want to watch what they wish for.AlsoIndigo said:
Not sure how that will gowilliamglenn said:https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/826834155392602112
How soon could the big showdown between Trump and the UN come?
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/us-pays-3b-un-more-185-other-countries-combined
http://daccess-ods.un.org/access.nsf/Get?Open&DS=ST/ADM/SER.B/910&Lang=E
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/us-pays-3b-un-more-185-other-countries-combined
From the article you cited. So they pay the most... But not most of the peace keeping budget.0 -
Accidental double post.0
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Clive Lewis has pledged to resign. Should be an Endangered mark on him.Black_Rook said:0 -
Hard to see how Whips can stay in place if they rebel.Morris_Dancer said:Dr. Spyn, if they go, there will be trouble.
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Markets seem unmoved.TheScreamingEagles said:I wonder if Mike's had an advance preview.
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Personally I think the issue is an exceptional case and Corbyn can reasonably reappoint people afterwards.
On thread, I wonder if we've seen the last twist in the story. If I were either of the left-wing candidates I'd be pretty cheesed off that Macron is walking away with it and open to a suggestion of an agreed ticket. And if I was one of their voters I'd be pretty cheesed off if they refused to do it. Perhaps we may end up with an unexpected finale, like Macron vs Hamon.0 -
I wonder how many of the voters in Stoke will be watching C4 News?TheScreamingEagles said:I wonder if Mike's had an advance preview.
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/8268563948507217960 -
Paul Waugh✔@paulwaugh At least 4 more LabMPs expected to quit fbench (inc 3 whips)
Comes to a pretty pass when the cat herders are the ones doing the rebelling.0 -
Pulpstar said:
The Macron-Fillon dynamic works against Le Pen in the first round - whoever of those two wins will be sufficiently popular in the second round to win. In fact the VI required 41-59 poll for Fillon probably sees him (Via Bayes and whatnot) lose to Macron in the first round.
I've got those two dutched against Le Pen currently, with a comedy saver on Sarko.
No suppey on Juppe?Pulpstar said:The Macron-Fillon dynamic works against Le Pen in the first round - whoever of those two wins will be sufficiently popular in the second round to win. In fact the VI required 41-59 poll for Fillon probably sees him (Via Bayes and whatnot) lose to Macron in the first round.
I've got those two dutched against Le Pen currently, with a comedy saver on Sarko.0 -
Does anyone know how many labour MPs will rebel0
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Depends how many whose remote batteries on the blink and haven't switched over after HollyOaks.tlg86 said:
I wonder how many of the voters in Stoke will be watching C4 News?TheScreamingEagles said:I wonder if Mike's had an advance preview.
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Let me do my sums on these byelections. Back later.isam said:
I'll offer 5/2 Tories bt UKIP on votes on the day. Both parties have to stand, bet settled on votes declared at the count.foxinsoxuk said:
It is my basis for the 8/1 on UKIP less than 20% from Shadsy, as well as Laying UKIP on Betfair.isam said:
Want to bet?foxinsoxuk said:
I think that Tories will be second, ahead of the kippers.isam said:
Well I agree that the Conservatives would be shorter if 47% of the market is kept off the ballotfoxinsoxuk said:
Sure, he is a bit of a prat, but I didn't think his tweets that bad.isam said:
Thanks.. yeah I did that vis his wife, but there was nothing that bad. Glad someone else found them though, what a prat.foxinsoxuk said:
Gill Troughton is straight though.isam said:Gareth Snell's Ratners moment... it was always going to happen, Glad I didn't go all in on Labour
Still 50/50 in my book
Finding Snell's deleted tweets is actually fairly easy. look at his followers, find one who is another Stoke Labour party member and look for retweets.
Half the reason I didn't stand for UKIP in the end was I knew I would be confronted with Enoch Powell quotes from here (even though isam isn't my real name!)
I don't think either byelection will be dominated by Brexit. That is a done deal and the electorate has moved back to more mundane issues.
What does UKIP offer the people of Stoke that Mays Conservatives do not? I think the Tories are too long there, particularly if the carpetbagger kipper is off the ballot.
I have enough exposure for the moment, but what odds do you have in mind?0 -
I had wondered whether Corbyn was setting up his Labour backbench critics who vote against A50 legislation for deselection. Who he would replace them with makes the mind boggle!
Corbyn is such a mystery in what he does, the only constant is his inconsistency.
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I'm staying long on Hamon.NickPalmer said:Personally I think the issue is an exceptional case and Corbyn can reasonably reappoint people afterwards.
On thread, I wonder if we've seen the last twist in the story. If I were either of the left-wing candidates I'd be pretty cheesed off that Macron is walking away with it and open to a suggestion of an agreed ticket. And if I was one of their voters I'd be pretty cheesed off if they refused to do it. Perhaps we may end up with an unexpected finale, like Macron vs Hamon.0 -
Probably around 50.Big_G_NorthWales said:Does anyone know how many labour MPs will rebel
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So the UN will be fine if Trump pulls the plug, that's good to knowrkrkrk said:
"The U.S. contribution to the separate, and much larger, peacekeeping budget is 28.36 percent this year"AlsoIndigo said:
US also pays for most of the peacekeeping which is a separate budget totalling to an additional contribution of $2.402 billion last year.rcs1000 said:
The US pays $670m/year according to the UN, 22% of the budget.AlsoIndigo said:
If he cuts their money, the UN is dead, the US pays for over half the cost of the whole operation, and Trump isn't the sort of president to see much value in the UN. If they were smart they would keep very quiet over the next 4-8 years and hope he doesnt notice the 4ish billion dollars the US throws them every year.malcolmg said:
If he cuts their money , the big salaries and huge expenses are out the window. They may want to watch what they wish for.AlsoIndigo said:
Not sure how that will gowilliamglenn said:https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/826834155392602112
How soon could the big showdown between Trump and the UN come?
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/us-pays-3b-un-more-185-other-countries-combined
http://daccess-ods.un.org/access.nsf/Get?Open&DS=ST/ADM/SER.B/910&Lang=E
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/us-pays-3b-un-more-185-other-countries-combined
From the article you cited. So they pay the most... But not most of the peace keeping budget. 0 -
Thats a very precise number, do you know them all?AndyJS said:
Probably around 50.Big_G_NorthWales said:Does anyone know how many labour MPs will rebel
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Sean seems to think that driverless cars will also mean passengerless cars. He really is a bit slow this evening.Cyclefree said:@SeanT: since you seem to think that we're all THICK, I will leave this statement that you wrote earlier here - "Driverless cars are much smaller, because no drivers = again emptier roads" and let you work out, overnight, why you are talking rubbish.
PS I don't think you are THICK. A bit OVEREXCITABLE, possibly.
Still, I will be up early so am more than willing to have an argument with you when you wake up.0 -
The Grauniad thinks 30+FrancisUrquhart said:
Thats a very precise number, do you know them all?AndyJS said:
Probably around 50.Big_G_NorthWales said:Does anyone know how many labour MPs will rebel
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/01/labours-real-battle-brexit-starts-article-50-triggered-emily-thornberry-0 -
No it will be bad for them certainly.AlsoIndigo said:.
So the UN will be fine if Trump pulls the plug, that's good to knowrkrkrk said:
"The U.S. contribution to the separate, and much larger, peacekeeping budget is 28.36 percent this year"AlsoIndigo said:
US also pays for most of the peacekeeping which is a separate budget totalling to an additional contribution of $2.402 billion last year.rcs1000 said:
The US pays $670m/year according to the UN, 22% of the budget.AlsoIndigo said:
If he cuts their money, the UN is dead, the US pays for over half the cost of the whole operation, and Trump isn't the sort of president to see much value in the UN. If they were smart they would keep very quiet over the next 4-8 years and hope he doesnt notice the 4ish billion dollars the US throws them every year.malcolmg said:
If he cuts their money , the big salaries and huge expenses are out the window. They may want to watch what they wish for.AlsoIndigo said:
Not sure how that will gowilliamglenn said:https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/826834155392602112
How soon could the big showdown between Trump and the UN come?
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/us-pays-3b-un-more-185-other-countries-combined
http://daccess-ods.un.org/access.nsf/Get?Open&DS=ST/ADM/SER.B/910&Lang=E
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/us-pays-3b-un-more-185-other-countries-combined
From the article you cited. So they pay the most... But not most of the peace keeping budget.
Just pointing out that you twice mistated the extent of the US contribution according to your source.0 -
Why is an opposition MP voting against something they don't believe in being seen as a rebellion? I know that Corbyn has a three line whip but isn't it the duty of her majesties loyal opposition to oppose all government measures?FrancisUrquhart said:
Thats a very precise number, do you know them all?AndyJS said:
Probably around 50.Big_G_NorthWales said:Does anyone know how many labour MPs will rebel
Again, Corbyn has been found wanting, although the conspiracy theorist in me wonders whether Brexit is something he always wanted as it brings a hard left UK government in his eyes closer?0 -
Me too. I'm green except for Le Pen...Casino_Royale said:
I'm staying long on Hamon.NickPalmer said:Personally I think the issue is an exceptional case and Corbyn can reasonably reappoint people afterwards.
On thread, I wonder if we've seen the last twist in the story. If I were either of the left-wing candidates I'd be pretty cheesed off that Macron is walking away with it and open to a suggestion of an agreed ticket. And if I was one of their voters I'd be pretty cheesed off if they refused to do it. Perhaps we may end up with an unexpected finale, like Macron vs Hamon.
If it ended up Hamon vs. Le Pen I'd get worried though...0 -
Blockquote error on my part...I thought the "about 50" was talking about the number of people in Stoke who watch CH4 news...0
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No, it's a rough guess. Probably wrong.FrancisUrquhart said:
Thats a very precise number, do you know them all?AndyJS said:
Probably around 50.Big_G_NorthWales said:Does anyone know how many labour MPs will rebel
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Nick,NickPalmer said:Personally I think the issue is an exceptional case and Corbyn can reasonably reappoint people afterwards.
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Much as I admire your loyalty to the party, personally I find it difficult to comprehend how an organisation can function properly if the rules are optional. One of the Tories great strengths is that the rule book is applied with a rod of iron and all the party knows it.
A similar thought process appertained when Brown was in charge therefore no coup really got off the ground. Now, we have a Labour Party where there's no philosophy and anything goes.0 -
I'm trying to work out the ways that this pic will get PB Tories excited. Haven't quite managed it yet, but I definitely know that it will.
https://twitter.com/WingsScotland/status/8268648503117946890 -
The US also provides quite a lot of "incidental support" - use of airbases etc for the UN. There have been complaints from the Pentagon in the past that this is a cost that they have to swallow out of operational budgets.rkrkrk said:
"The U.S. contribution to the separate, and much larger, peacekeeping budget is 28.36 percent this year"AlsoIndigo said:
US also pays for most of the peacekeeping which is a separate budget totalling to an additional contribution of $2.402 billion last year.rcs1000 said:
The US pays $670m/year according to the UN, 22% of the budget.AlsoIndigo said:
If he cuts their money, the UN is dead, the US pays for over half the cost of the whole operation, and Trump isn't the sort of president to see much value in the UN. If they were smart they would keep very quiet over the next 4-8 years and hope he doesnt notice the 4ish billion dollars the US throws them every year.malcolmg said:
If he cuts their money , the big salaries and huge expenses are out the window. They may want to watch what they wish for.AlsoIndigo said:
Not sure how that will gowilliamglenn said:https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/826834155392602112
How soon could the big showdown between Trump and the UN come?
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/us-pays-3b-un-more-185-other-countries-combined
http://daccess-ods.un.org/access.nsf/Get?Open&DS=ST/ADM/SER.B/910&Lang=E
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/us-pays-3b-un-more-185-other-countries-combined
From the article you cited. So they pay the most... But not most of the peace keeping budget.0 -
Re: Driverless cars.
1. More of them can travel on the same road space simply because they can travel closer together.
2. The cost per electric car is heading to be well under £10,000 a car - probably closer to £5,000 within 10 years.
3. Since most people will be hiring their car on a time basis, they will have a natural incentive to use them at times of least cost and least congestion.0 -
Here we go with "Dr" Nuttall story.0
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Faisal Islam on Sky is introducing every single negative speech including 50 billion to leave with absolutely no balance. His body language for weeks has been pro EU and he would look at home on CNN.
I thought Sky had to provide balance but it is totally lacking from him
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Yeah, I had that thought too.FrancisUrquhart said:Blockquote error on my part...I thought the "about 50" was talking about the number of people in Stoke who watch CH4 news...
C4News peaks at around 800k viewers, the UK population is around 65 million, the Stoke Central electorate is about 65k, so if C4News viewers are evenly distributed around the country, about 800.
In reality, they aren't and it will be less than that.0 -
"Stephen Bush (@stephenkb)
I'm reliably informed that 7,000 people have left the Labour party over Article 50 in the past week: https://t.co/PwlCiCAx24"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/feb/01/article-50-debate-vote-bill-pmqs-theresa-may-jeremy-corbyn-ivan-rogers-to-give-evidence-to-mps-about-why-he-quit-as-uks-ambassador-to-eu-politics-live0 -
100 voted for the SNP amendment.0
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Ayes 100
Noes 3360 -
100 MPs who think we are idiots.0
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The Donald would walk it in Stoke by the sounds of it....0
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650 MPs - 436 voted - where are the rest0
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Their buttocks clenched on the fence.Big_G_NorthWales said:650 MPs - 436 voted - where are the rest
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Hiding in the loos.Big_G_NorthWales said:650 MPs - 436 voted - where are the rest
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Perhaps we could deploy the threatened species classification system?Jobabob said:
Clive Lewis has pledged to resign. Should be an Endangered mark on him.Black_Rook said:
Vulnerable, Endangered, Critically Endangered... Extinct.0 -
Is that from channel 4FrancisUrquhart said:The Donald would walk it in Stoke by the sounds of it....
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33 Labour rebels voting with SNP, could be higher for the next vote.0
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In 1992 more people voted Labour in Stoke Central than in 82 of 84 London constituencies.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Is that from channel 4FrancisUrquhart said:The Donald would walk it in Stoke by the sounds of it....
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I was expecting some devastating revelation on C4 news....what a damp squib. More hype.0
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They don't want sovereignty, just a strongman dictator.FrancisUrquhart said:The Donald would walk it in Stoke by the sounds of it....
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"I thought Sky had to provide balance but it is totally lacking from him"
To be fair to the BBC, they nay have a Metropolitan Liberal bias at times, but they do try be impartial. It only comes over occasionally in manner rather than in deliberate partiality.0 -
You may think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.williamglenn said:
They don't want sovereignty, just a strongman dictator.FrancisUrquhart said:The Donald would walk it in Stoke by the sounds of it....
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Looks like all the big city metro and uni MPs.Big_G_NorthWales said:Does anyone know how many labour MPs will rebel
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Ian Murray labour's shadow Scotland Minister rebelled - sack him and no Scots based labour minister0
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Agreed. Dominic Cummings said he thought Laura K was very good during the referendum. Faisal Islam and the rest of Sky News have gone into complete meltdown since 23 June.CD13 said:"I thought Sky had to provide balance but it is totally lacking from him"
To be fair to the BBC, they nay have a Metropolitan Liberal bias at times, but they do try be impartial. It only comes over occasionally in manner rather than in deliberate partiality.0
