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@JosiasJessop
I'd love to be a fly on the wall if/when Elon Musk meets President Donald J Trump !
"Ok We'll give you the contract, but you're going to have to rename it all the "Trump Dragon" etc"0 -
So not a big, tall beautiful, powerful wall? File alongside £350million/week to the NHS.TheWhiteRabbit said:
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.Pulpstar said:Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).
"Mercifully for Mexico, Trump – who has been dogged by accusations of underpaying or failing to pay suppliers throughout his real estate career – has promised to “build it very inexpensively”. He claims the total cost will reach between $10-12 billion, though the existing 650 miles of fencing has already cost the government more than $7 billion and a Washington Post study estimated the cost at around $25 billion.
Spanning 1,989 miles (3,201 km) the US-Mexico border is the 10th longest land border in the world "
http://www.ifsecglobal.com/donald-trumps-big-beautiful-powerful-wall-everything-you-need-to-know/0 -
@david_kendrick1
'Maybe we can do a thread about the absurd things said about Trump?
I've heard him criticised for 'never standing for any public office before'. I've no idea why that should be a negative.
It does rather re-enforce the unattractive 'specialness' that pro-politicains feel about themselves. And probably contributed to his winning..'
According to some TV interviews with voters,not being a politician was a big plus.
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Poor news management from Hammond. Trump's presidency and the spectacularly good trade deal that will result is Farage's great gift to the British nation - shouldn't be sounding so dismissive.Scott_P said:@iainjwatson: Theresa May will talk to Donald Trump later today says Philip Hammond
@BBCNormanS: The Govt has no "urgent business" to discuss with President Trump says Chancellor Philip Hammond
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That 'skyscraper' visualisation showing the margin of victory in each state and comparing with 2012 was brilliant. I'd love to see something similar for UK constituencies.0
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Trump has one luxury we don't
The US Dollar is still considered the world's reserve currency.
The pound is definitely NOT.0 -
One of Trumps continual promises regarding NAFTA was the fact its allowed so many jobs that used to be in the USA to be moved south of the border... I think he's continually pointed at General Motors / Ford as examples...PClipp said:
How much do American companies based in Mexico send north?taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
Formerly known as readers...williamglenn said:That Morning Joe clip is great.
In a funny way I think Trump's absolute contempt for the media actually contributed to the poor job they did in covering the election. They were so keen to retaliate by painting him as a loser and instead they painted themselves into a corner where they were cut off from their audience.0 -
Can Lay Republicans for 250 on Betfair.Casino_Royale said:When is New Hampshire paying out then?
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OK, we'll do that - and you can have the first ride!Pulpstar said:@JosiasJessop
I'd love to be a fly on the wall if/when Elon Musk meets President Donald J Trump !
"Ok We'll give you the contract, but you're going to have to rename it all the "Trump Dragon" etc"0 -
At least I didn't say customers.PlatoSaid said:
Formerly known as readers...williamglenn said:That Morning Joe clip is great.
In a funny way I think Trump's absolute contempt for the media actually contributed to the poor job they did in covering the election. They were so keen to retaliate by painting him as a loser and instead they painted themselves into a corner where they were cut off from their audience.
Actually I was referring to all news media. 0 -
Agreed, the urgent business is Trump's recent electionStark_Dawning said:
Poor news management from Hammond. Trump's presidency and the spectacularly good trade deal that will result is Farage's great gift to the British nation - shouldn't be sounding so dismissive.Scott_P said:@iainjwatson: Theresa May will talk to Donald Trump later today says Philip Hammond
@BBCNormanS: The Govt has no "urgent business" to discuss with President Trump says Chancellor Philip Hammond
Back of the queue...0 -
Michigan available at 1.02 Rep0
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Ford announced 9000 job losses in the US during the election cycle, jobs that would shift to Mexico.eek said:
One of Trumps continual promises regarding NAFTA was the fact its allowed so many jobs that used to be in the USA to be moved south of the border... I think he's continually pointed at General Motors / Ford as examples...PClipp said:
How much do American companies based in Mexico send north?taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
''Poor news management from Hammond. ''
I notice the same people who were chastising May for wishing Trump good luck are now wailing about him not calling us.
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After experience with LAB at GE2015 and now HRC on Tuesday I've come to view that bragging about your ground game is a sure sign of a loser.Pulpstar said:That spreadsheet is very interesting
You know how we all thought Virginia was looking harder for Clinton on the night than it should have done.
Well in the end it actually swung TOWARDS her.
That indicates a widening rural/urban divide in voting loyalties within the USA.
Also Florida.
For an operation with supposedly no ground game, the pan handle GOP certainly knew it was crucial for them to get out and vote.
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You'd almost think they were on the Trump campaign payroll.MaxPB said:
Ford announced 9000 job losses in the US during the election cycle, jobs that would shift to Mexico.eek said:
One of Trumps continual promises regarding NAFTA was the fact its allowed so many jobs that used to be in the USA to be moved south of the border... I think he's continually pointed at General Motors / Ford as examples...PClipp said:
How much do American companies based in Mexico send north?taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
Mr. Glenn, Mr. Dawning, I agree any verdict on either Trump or our departure from the EU is premature.
However, doomsayers were quite content to declare the result of the referendum a disaster the day after the vote...
Also, I don't have time to read this (need to do work) but there's a chap who wants individuals in the UK to be able to be EU citizens:
https://twitter.com/CharlesGoerens/status/7963558540941885440 -
@BethRigby: It's telling isn't it that Trump 's spoken to 9 world leaders b4 May. Hardly front of queue Hammond gave good answer at presser, but still..0
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2000 GM jobs loses announced yesterday scheduled for start of 2017.MaxPB said:
Ford announced 9000 job losses in the US during the election cycle, jobs that would shift to Mexico.eek said:
One of Trumps continual promises regarding NAFTA was the fact its allowed so many jobs that used to be in the USA to be moved south of the border... I think he's continually pointed at General Motors / Ford as examples...PClipp said:
How much do American companies based in Mexico send north?taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
I doubt it, for various reasons. For one, it isn't anti-science. For another, the US are not the only people doing Earth science.logical_song said:
An anti-science stance will end up costing more.taffys said:"Earth sciences/Climatology" is going to be utterly demolished though.
All sorts of jokes going around the web on the 'what do you say to a climate scientist - big mac and fries please' front
BUt there's a serious point here. How much will Trump flay the 'worthy' economy that sucks billions out of the US tax payer. And could a conservative government here copy it?
As an aside, one US president (I think Johnson, though it might have been Eisenhower) said the Space Race had paid for itself in one way: the US military were constantly over-estimating the amount and capability of Soviet weapons systems. The new satellites disproved these claims, meaning that the US built far fewer planes, missiles and subs than they had planned.
In fact, they proved that one type of plane only had a few in service, whilst the generals had thought there were multiple squadrons: at an Army Day parade the Russians had flown the same planes past again and again!0 -
I think Jack's ARSE need recalibrating since he said the Dem ground game would add 1-2 points on the day. That would have swung PA, MI and WI.MikeSmithson said:
After experience with LAB at GE2015 and now HRC on Tuesday I've come to view that bragging about your ground game is a sure sign of a loser.Pulpstar said:That spreadsheet is very interesting
You know how we all thought Virginia was looking harder for Clinton on the night than it should have done.
Well in the end it actually swung TOWARDS her.
That indicates a widening rural/urban divide in voting loyalties within the USA.
Also Florida.
For an operation with supposedly no ground game, the pan handle GOP certainly knew it was crucial for them to get out and vote.0 -
I thought this was rather interesting. The citizen journalist movement has had rocket boosters recently.
I don't know if I agree with it, but it may keep some tempted to remain straight.
https://youtu.be/sAUPZZVwEaY0 -
Perhaps he thinks 'that Nigel guy' is the only Brit of any significance.Scott_P said:@BethRigby: It's telling isn't it that Trump 's spoken to 9 world leaders b4 May. Hardly front of queue Hammond gave good answer at presser, but still..
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Moving to Mexico as well, I guess. As I said yesterday, kicking Mexico out of NAFTA gives the US industrial heartlands 20 years of breathing room at the expense of inflation, by then we may have figured out how to live in a world where a lot of jobs are going to be automated.FrancisUrquhart said:
2000 GM jobs loses announced yesterday scheduled for start of 2017.MaxPB said:
Ford announced 9000 job losses in the US during the election cycle, jobs that would shift to Mexico.eek said:
One of Trumps continual promises regarding NAFTA was the fact its allowed so many jobs that used to be in the USA to be moved south of the border... I think he's continually pointed at General Motors / Ford as examples...PClipp said:
How much do American companies based in Mexico send north?taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
Paul Joseph Watson
TRUMPOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN! This is dreadful. https://t.co/HQIjbQBC5W
"The rally in U.S. stocks faltered after the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose to an all-time high, as investors speculated gains sparked by assumptions for pro-business policies under Donald Trump went too far too quickly.0 -
''It's telling isn't it that Trump 's spoken to 9 world leaders b4 May. Hardly front of queue Hammond gave good answer at presser, but still.''
Leaving two hundred or so world leaders who we spoke to before trump
What a juvenile, brainless point, by one of many brainless, chattering parrot commentators who have got just about everything wrong in the past few years.0 -
Has he actually spoken to any leader from the G8? Maybe he's looking out for the forgotten nations of the world, as well as the forgotten people in the US.Scott_P said:@BethRigby: It's telling isn't it that Trump 's spoken to 9 world leaders b4 May. Hardly front of queue Hammond gave good answer at presser, but still..
To answer my question, just Japan.0 -
Mr P,
"It's telling isn't it that Trump 's spoken to 9 world leaders b4 May."
How about your mate Farage? I bet Trump and he are besties.0 -
No, a map of counties always looks heavily Republican. This was in no way a landslide.SimonStClare said:0 -
@MikeSmithsonPB Well I don't think having door knockers can hurt, but you need an overarching simple message, that is more important in today's world of social media than ever.
"Yes we can"
"Take back control"
"Salmond's pocket"
"Make America Great Again"0 -
Breathing room is the key.MaxPB said:
Moving to Mexico as well, I guess. As I said yesterday, kicking Mexico out of NAFTA gives the US industrial heartlands 20 years of breathing room at the expense of inflation, by then we may have figured out how to live in a world where a lot of jobs are going to be automated.FrancisUrquhart said:
2000 GM jobs loses announced yesterday scheduled for start of 2017.MaxPB said:
Ford announced 9000 job losses in the US during the election cycle, jobs that would shift to Mexico.eek said:
One of Trumps continual promises regarding NAFTA was the fact its allowed so many jobs that used to be in the USA to be moved south of the border... I think he's continually pointed at General Motors / Ford as examples...PClipp said:
How much do American companies based in Mexico send north?taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.
We need a return to political economy and away from econometrics. The understanding that globalisation is a positive in the long-term (and on some measure in the short-term too) needs to be combined with the wisdom that moving too fast undermines the stability of the whole system.0 -
Wow, announced on election day or the day after? Talk about burying bad news.FrancisUrquhart said:
2000 GM jobs loses announced yesterday scheduled for start of 2017.MaxPB said:
Ford announced 9000 job losses in the US during the election cycle, jobs that would shift to Mexico.eek said:
One of Trumps continual promises regarding NAFTA was the fact its allowed so many jobs that used to be in the USA to be moved south of the border... I think he's continually pointed at General Motors / Ford as examples...PClipp said:
How much do American companies based in Mexico send north?taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
I suspect Farage will end his days as a sad Walter Mitty figure, claiming to have been the éminence grise behind every significant event in his lifetime.CD13 said:Mr P,
"It's telling isn't it that Trump 's spoken to 9 world leaders b4 May."
How about your mate Farage? I bet Trump and he are besties.0 -
EURUSD has been in a very tight range (1.06-1.14) for a year.
Indeed. Whilst I appreciate your points about trade flows, I'm not sure I'd want to be long EUR right now.
The political calendar is such that its integrity will, at some juncture, come into question
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The thing is that's insanely circumvent-able, unless he's planning to prevent/tax all international money transfers. And bitcoin.PlatoSaid said:
Yup - that's what's apparently proposed.taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
''I suspect Farage will end his days as a sad Walter Mitty figure, claiming to have been the éminence grise behind every significant event in his lifetime. ''
Like most other politicians, then...0 -
The first issue Trump faces is that his plans will lead - in the short term at least - to a massive increase in the US budget deficit. Congress will first need to authorise a massive increase in the debt ceiling.taffys said:"Earth sciences/Climatology" is going to be utterly demolished though.
All sorts of jokes going around the web on the 'what do you say to a climate scientist - big mac and fries please' front
BUt there's a serious point here. How much will Trump flay the 'worthy' economy that sucks billions out of the US tax payer. And could a conservative government here copy it?0 -
For smart people like yourself, but surely the average Mexican worker will just be heading down to the local Western Union shop or using their website ?rcs1000 said:
The thing is that's insanely circumvent-able, unless he's planning to prevent/tax all international money transfers. And bitcoin.PlatoSaid said:
Yup - that's what's apparently proposed.taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
Good afternoon PB from flight EK37, where thanks to modern technology i'm watching Trump's plane on CNN.
Is it as cold in UK midlands as i'm expecting, having not been home in the winter for about five years?0 -
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-10/trump-victory-hands-u-k-s-may-security-leverage-in-brexit-talks
Robert Hutton has this today about Trump and Brexit,0 -
Erm certainly one and a little bit two I'd suggest. Certainly Brexit and a little bit Trump. He gave a super speech late in the trump campaign. Wow! Wow! Wow! was Trump's response as Farage got a massive applause. It will have motivated some to get their asses out of bed and vote Trump. The skyscraper graphic shows how very close things were. Our Nige may have made a difference.williamglenn said:
I suspect Farage will end his days as a sad Walter Mitty figure, claiming to have been the éminence grise behind every significant event in his lifetime.CD13 said:Mr P,
"It's telling isn't it that Trump 's spoken to 9 world leaders b4 May."
How about your mate Farage? I bet Trump and he are besties.
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Globalisation on the whole is a good thing. The mistake is thinking that the only choice is between what we have now and protectionism. We could use globalisation to our advantage to bring manufacturing back to richer nationswilliamglenn said:
Breathing room is the key.MaxPB said:
Moving to Mexico as well, I guess. As I said yesterday, kicking Mexico out of NAFTA gives the US industrial heartlands 20 years of breathing room at the expense of inflation, by then we may have figured out how to live in a world where a lot of jobs are going to be automated.FrancisUrquhart said:
2000 GM jobs loses announced yesterday scheduled for start of 2017.MaxPB said:
Ford announced 9000 job losses in the US during the election cycle, jobs that would shift to Mexico.eek said:
One of Trumps continual promises regarding NAFTA was the fact its allowed so many jobs that used to be in the USA to be moved south of the border... I think he's continually pointed at General Motors / Ford as examples...PClipp said:
How much do American companies based in Mexico send north?taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.
We need a return to political economy and away from econometrics. The understanding that globalisation is a positive in the long-term (and on some measure in the short-term too) needs to be combined with the wisdom that moving too fast undermines the stability of the whole system.0 -
I think transaction charges for money ending in Mexico.rcs1000 said:
The thing is that's insanely circumvent-able, unless he's planning to prevent/tax all international money transfers. And bitcoin.PlatoSaid said:
Yup - that's what's apparently proposed.taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
Although unlike any other politician I can think of bar Dan Hannan, Farage will have entered politics with one overriding aim and actually achieved it.taffys said:''I suspect Farage will end his days as a sad Walter Mitty figure, claiming to have been the éminence grise behind every significant event in his lifetime. ''
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That's why the government should ennoble Farage, and make him their special envoy to Washington. He's on close terms with the new administration.Stark_Dawning said:
Perhaps he thinks 'that Nigel guy' is the only Brit of any significance.Scott_P said:@BethRigby: It's telling isn't it that Trump 's spoken to 9 world leaders b4 May. Hardly front of queue Hammond gave good answer at presser, but still..
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Ooops,
Got that last story wrong: it was Johnson talking about the 'missile gap'.
My post was about the 'bomber gap'. A U2 flight saw twenty Bison Bombers on the ground at an airfield. US generals multiplied this by other airfields to claim that the Soviets had hundreds of Bisons available. Unfortunately, that U2 had caught the entire Russian fleet!Adding to the concerns was an infamous event in July 1955. At the Soviet Aviation Day demonstrations at the Tushino Airfield, ten Bison bombers were flown past the reviewing stand, then flew out of sight, quickly turned around, and flew past the stands again with eight more, presenting the illusion that there were 28 aircraft in the flyby. Western analysts extrapolated from the illusionary 28 aircraft, judging that by 1960 the Soviets would have 800.
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Good idea tbh.Sean_F said:
That's why the government should ennoble Farage, and make him their special envoy to Washington. He's on close terms with the new administration.Stark_Dawning said:
Perhaps he thinks 'that Nigel guy' is the only Brit of any significance.Scott_P said:@BethRigby: It's telling isn't it that Trump 's spoken to 9 world leaders b4 May. Hardly front of queue Hammond gave good answer at presser, but still..
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We know what he'll spend more on. We know less about where he'll cut. The EPA looks dead-dated. I suspect a bunch of public wasteful spending will quietly get pruned. The US public servant headcount (admin) is likely to fall sharply. QE showers may go in the direction of Main Street instead of Wall Street.rcs1000 said:
The first issue Trump faces is that his plans will lead - in the short term at least - to a massive increase in the US budget deficit. Congress will first need to authorise a massive increase in the debt ceiling.taffys said:"Earth sciences/Climatology" is going to be utterly demolished though.
All sorts of jokes going around the web on the 'what do you say to a climate scientist - big mac and fries please' front
BUt there's a serious point here. How much will Trump flay the 'worthy' economy that sucks billions out of the US tax payer. And could a conservative government here copy it?
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If anyone fancies cashing out of Michigan, I'll happily gobble any 1.02 on the GOP there.0
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We know what he'll spend more on. We know less about where he'll cut....
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Unwise. May's going to have enough trouble preventing the Tories from blowing themselves asunder over Brexit. Last thing she'd need is Lord Farage adding to the mayhem.Sean_F said:
That's why the government should ennoble Farage, and make him their special envoy to Washington. He's on close terms with the new administration.Stark_Dawning said:
Perhaps he thinks 'that Nigel guy' is the only Brit of any significance.Scott_P said:@BethRigby: It's telling isn't it that Trump 's spoken to 9 world leaders b4 May. Hardly front of queue Hammond gave good answer at presser, but still..
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May would have to spend a lot of political capital on such an appointment.Pulpstar said:
Good idea tbh.Sean_F said:
That's why the government should ennoble Farage, and make him their special envoy to Washington. He's on close terms with the new administration.Stark_Dawning said:
Perhaps he thinks 'that Nigel guy' is the only Brit of any significance.Scott_P said:@BethRigby: It's telling isn't it that Trump 's spoken to 9 world leaders b4 May. Hardly front of queue Hammond gave good answer at presser, but still..
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Maybe the ground game did and without it it would have been a Trump low out.MaxPB said:
I think Jack's ARSE need recalibrating since he said the Dem ground game would add 1-2 points on the day. That would have swung PA, MI and WI.MikeSmithson said:
After experience with LAB at GE2015 and now HRC on Tuesday I've come to view that bragging about your ground game is a sure sign of a loser.Pulpstar said:That spreadsheet is very interesting
You know how we all thought Virginia was looking harder for Clinton on the night than it should have done.
Well in the end it actually swung TOWARDS her.
That indicates a widening rural/urban divide in voting loyalties within the USA.
Also Florida.
For an operation with supposedly no ground game, the pan handle GOP certainly knew it was crucial for them to get out and vote.
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And the polls would have been even more wrong!Alistair said:
Maybe the ground game did and without it it would have been a Trump low out.MaxPB said:
I think Jack's ARSE need recalibrating since he said the Dem ground game would add 1-2 points on the day. That would have swung PA, MI and WI.MikeSmithson said:
After experience with LAB at GE2015 and now HRC on Tuesday I've come to view that bragging about your ground game is a sure sign of a loser.Pulpstar said:That spreadsheet is very interesting
You know how we all thought Virginia was looking harder for Clinton on the night than it should have done.
Well in the end it actually swung TOWARDS her.
That indicates a widening rural/urban divide in voting loyalties within the USA.
Also Florida.
For an operation with supposedly no ground game, the pan handle GOP certainly knew it was crucial for them to get out and vote.
We won't know till the campaign tell all's come out
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The BBC would do well to rewatch CNN's coverage of the US election. It was absolutely brilliant & they could learn a thing or two from it.
I hear Fox News was similiarly good.0 -
Trump invites May to visit him as soon as possible.0
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I expect he'll get the full royal treatment here soon, too.frpenkridge said:Trump invites May to visit him as soon as possible.
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In fact, who got more votes?RobD said:
No, a map of counties always looks heavily Republican. This was in no way a landslide.SimonStClare said:0 -
Memo to PM: if you see the president reach for the Tic Tacs, make sure that there's a table between you and him at all times.frpenkridge said:Trump invites May to visit him as soon as possible.
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ARSE has had a bit of a spanking, this year.Alistair said:
Maybe the ground game did and without it it would have been a Trump low out.MaxPB said:
I think Jack's ARSE need recalibrating since he said the Dem ground game would add 1-2 points on the day. That would have swung PA, MI and WI.MikeSmithson said:
After experience with LAB at GE2015 and now HRC on Tuesday I've come to view that bragging about your ground game is a sure sign of a loser.Pulpstar said:That spreadsheet is very interesting
You know how we all thought Virginia was looking harder for Clinton on the night than it should have done.
Well in the end it actually swung TOWARDS her.
That indicates a widening rural/urban divide in voting loyalties within the USA.
Also Florida.
For an operation with supposedly no ground game, the pan handle GOP certainly knew it was crucial for them to get out and vote.
We won't know till the campaign tell all's come out
One purpose of a good ground game is to report back, in timely manner, about where you're faltering, so that you can start putting in more resources. Given the narrowness with which Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania were lost, (and with them, the election) somebody wasn't telling Clinton what she needed to hear.0 -
Has he thought about tunnels?FrancisUrquhart said:
There is already a fence along a significant proportion...he could fill in the rest with a "wall" as stage 1 and then still be able to claim he built his wall.TheWhiteRabbit said:
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.Pulpstar said:Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).0 -
It is in the interests of the United States that Mexico be as prosperous as possible. No wall (nor the Mediterranean) can protect you from the consequence of a failed state on your border. Sorting out the consequences of a disaster in Mexico (which, would of course, have massive negative impacts on the US financial system) is a lot more expensive than allowing the Mexicans to become richer through trade with the US.eek said:
One of Trumps continual promises regarding NAFTA was the fact its allowed so many jobs that used to be in the USA to be moved south of the border... I think he's continually pointed at General Motors / Ford as examples...PClipp said:
How much do American companies based in Mexico send north?taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
The problem with "public wasteful spending" is that waste is very much in the eye of the beholder. Whilst there are undoubtedly many wasteful schemes, others are deemed wasteful for political reasons when they fulfil a valuable purpose.Patrick said:
We know what he'll spend more on. We know less about where he'll cut. The EPA looks dead-dated. I suspect a bunch of public wasteful spending will quietly get pruned. The US public servant headcount (admin) is likely to fall sharply. QE showers may go in the direction of Main Street instead of Wall Street.rcs1000 said:
The first issue Trump faces is that his plans will lead - in the short term at least - to a massive increase in the US budget deficit. Congress will first need to authorise a massive increase in the debt ceiling.taffys said:"Earth sciences/Climatology" is going to be utterly demolished though.
All sorts of jokes going around the web on the 'what do you say to a climate scientist - big mac and fries please' front
BUt there's a serious point here. How much will Trump flay the 'worthy' economy that sucks billions out of the US tax payer. And could a conservative government here copy it?
However, this is a classic example of $349 million of waste:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2014/12/15/nasas-349-million-monument-to-its-drift/0 -
Don't worry, Farage has already offered to be the responsible adult.AlastairMeeks said:
Memo to PM: if you see the president reach for the Tic Tacs, make sure that there's a table between you and him at all times.frpenkridge said:Trump invites May to visit him as soon as possible.
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Trump's wall is imaginary. It is as tall as it needs to be, deep as it needs to be, and cheap as it needs to be.logical_song said:
Has he thought about tunnels?FrancisUrquhart said:
There is already a fence along a significant proportion...he could fill in the rest with a "wall" as stage 1 and then still be able to claim he built his wall.TheWhiteRabbit said:
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.Pulpstar said:Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).0 -
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Indeed... how will that go down with the deficit hawks / Ron Paul types in the GOP?rcs1000 said:
The first issue Trump faces is that his plans will lead - in the short term at least - to a massive increase in the US budget deficit. Congress will first need to authorise a massive increase in the debt ceiling.taffys said:"Earth sciences/Climatology" is going to be utterly demolished though.
All sorts of jokes going around the web on the 'what do you say to a climate scientist - big mac and fries please' front
BUt there's a serious point here. How much will Trump flay the 'worthy' economy that sucks billions out of the US tax payer. And could a conservative government here copy it?0 -
@williamglenn
'I suspect Farage will end his days as a sad Walter Mitty figure, claiming to have been the éminence grise behind every significant event in his lifetime.'
He will be able to claim that he achieved more in terms of significant policy change than the Lib Dems did in 5 years of government.
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Outside of Italy, the Euro is still remarkably popular. "The Euro is Good for My Country", net positive:taffys said:EURUSD has been in a very tight range (1.06-1.14) for a year.
Indeed. Whilst I appreciate your points about trade flows, I'm not sure I'd want to be long EUR right now.
The political calendar is such that its integrity will, at some juncture, come into question
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Following on, that spreadsheet shows how lousy the ground game was. Every State that Clinton gained ground in was useless to her.Sean_F said:
ARSE has had a bit of a spanking, this year.Alistair said:
Maybe the ground game did and without it it would have been a Trump low out.MaxPB said:
I think Jack's ARSE need recalibrating since he said the Dem ground game would add 1-2 points on the day. That would have swung PA, MI and WI.MikeSmithson said:
After experience with LAB at GE2015 and now HRC on Tuesday I've come to view that bragging about your ground game is a sure sign of a loser.Pulpstar said:That spreadsheet is very interesting
You know how we all thought Virginia was looking harder for Clinton on the night than it should have done.
Well in the end it actually swung TOWARDS her.
That indicates a widening rural/urban divide in voting loyalties within the USA.
Also Florida.
For an operation with supposedly no ground game, the pan handle GOP certainly knew it was crucial for them to get out and vote.
We won't know till the campaign tell all's come out
One purpose of a good ground game is to report back, in timely manner, about where you're faltering, so that you can start putting in more resources. Given the narrowness with which Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania were lost, (and with them, the election) somebody wasn't telling Clinton what she needed to hear.0 -
Which will be completed first, Trump’s wall or Heathrow’s third runway?Scott_P said:0 -
Tunnels are apparently already a problem. Although I doubt that they're on North Korea's scale:logical_song said:
Has he thought about tunnels?FrancisUrquhart said:
There is already a fence along a significant proportion...he could fill in the rest with a "wall" as stage 1 and then still be able to claim he built his wall.TheWhiteRabbit said:
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.Pulpstar said:Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Tunnel_of_Aggression
Building a wall will be difficult and expensive, given the length and some of the terrain. Building a wall that works, maintaining it, and securing it will be very expensive in construction, and in operation.0 -
In the short term, yes. But longer term, they'll end up using their mate who has some BTC based system.Pulpstar said:
For smart people like yourself, but surely the average Mexican worker will just be heading down to the local Western Union shop or using their website ?rcs1000 said:
The thing is that's insanely circumvent-able, unless he's planning to prevent/tax all international money transfers. And bitcoin.PlatoSaid said:
Yup - that's what's apparently proposed.taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
Is that a trick question?SimonStClare said:
Which will be completed first, Trump’s wall or Heathrow’s third runway?Scott_P said:0 -
Some sort of a wall.SimonStClare said:
Which will be completed first, Trump’s wall or Heathrow’s third runway?Scott_P said:0 -
Trouble is it was a significantly bad change.john_zims said:@williamglenn
'I suspect Farage will end his days as a sad Walter Mitty figure, claiming to have been the éminence grise behind every significant event in his lifetime.'
He will be able to claim that he achieved more in terms of significant policy change than the Lib Dems did in 5 years of government.0 -
The bulk of Federal Spending is transfer payments, Medicare/Medicaid and defence. The Department of Energy and the EPA together account for less than 1% of federal spending.Patrick said:
We know what he'll spend more on. We know less about where he'll cut. The EPA looks dead-dated. I suspect a bunch of public wasteful spending will quietly get pruned. The US public servant headcount (admin) is likely to fall sharply. QE showers may go in the direction of Main Street instead of Wall Street.rcs1000 said:
The first issue Trump faces is that his plans will lead - in the short term at least - to a massive increase in the US budget deficit. Congress will first need to authorise a massive increase in the debt ceiling.taffys said:"Earth sciences/Climatology" is going to be utterly demolished though.
All sorts of jokes going around the web on the 'what do you say to a climate scientist - big mac and fries please' front
BUt there's a serious point here. How much will Trump flay the 'worthy' economy that sucks billions out of the US tax payer. And could a conservative government here copy it?0 -
Surely construction is a short term cost?rcs1000 said:
In the short term, yes. But longer term, they'll end up using their mate who has some BTC based system.Pulpstar said:
For smart people like yourself, but surely the average Mexican worker will just be heading down to the local Western Union shop or using their website ?rcs1000 said:
The thing is that's insanely circumvent-able, unless he's planning to prevent/tax all international money transfers. And bitcoin.PlatoSaid said:
Yup - that's what's apparently proposed.taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
New attraction in WDW Florida.
The Trump Hall of Presidents.0 -
I suspect they will have an attack of the "It's okay if you are a Republican"Lennon said:
Indeed... how will that go down with the deficit hawks / Ron Paul types in the GOP?rcs1000 said:
The first issue Trump faces is that his plans will lead - in the short term at least - to a massive increase in the US budget deficit. Congress will first need to authorise a massive increase in the debt ceiling.taffys said:"Earth sciences/Climatology" is going to be utterly demolished though.
All sorts of jokes going around the web on the 'what do you say to a climate scientist - big mac and fries please' front
BUt there's a serious point here. How much will Trump flay the 'worthy' economy that sucks billions out of the US tax payer. And could a conservative government here copy it?0 -
I think undocumented immigrants work in a bunch of different industries.RobD said:
Surely construction is a short term cost?rcs1000 said:
In the short term, yes. But longer term, they'll end up using their mate who has some BTC based system.Pulpstar said:
For smart people like yourself, but surely the average Mexican worker will just be heading down to the local Western Union shop or using their website ?rcs1000 said:
The thing is that's insanely circumvent-able, unless he's planning to prevent/tax all international money transfers. And bitcoin.PlatoSaid said:
Yup - that's what's apparently proposed.taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
Post truth politics at it's best.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Trump's wall is imaginary. It is as tall as it needs to be, deep as it needs to be, and cheap as it needs to be.logical_song said:
Has he thought about tunnels?FrancisUrquhart said:
There is already a fence along a significant proportion...he could fill in the rest with a "wall" as stage 1 and then still be able to claim he built his wall.TheWhiteRabbit said:
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.Pulpstar said:Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).
That's it really, trump's wall is his version of £350million/week to the NHS.0 -
Is tic tacs a euphemism?AlastairMeeks said:
Memo to PM: if you see the president reach for the Tic Tacs, make sure that there's a table between you and him at all times.frpenkridge said:Trump invites May to visit him as soon as possible.
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I thought we were talking about funding the wall?rcs1000 said:
I think undocumented immigrants work in a bunch of different industries.RobD said:
Surely construction is a short term cost?rcs1000 said:
In the short term, yes. But longer term, they'll end up using their mate who has some BTC based system.Pulpstar said:
For smart people like yourself, but surely the average Mexican worker will just be heading down to the local Western Union shop or using their website ?rcs1000 said:
The thing is that's insanely circumvent-able, unless he's planning to prevent/tax all international money transfers. And bitcoin.PlatoSaid said:
Yup - that's what's apparently proposed.taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0 -
Except it's already half built.logical_song said:
Post truth politics at it's best.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Trump's wall is imaginary. It is as tall as it needs to be, deep as it needs to be, and cheap as it needs to be.logical_song said:
Has he thought about tunnels?FrancisUrquhart said:
There is already a fence along a significant proportion...he could fill in the rest with a "wall" as stage 1 and then still be able to claim he built his wall.TheWhiteRabbit said:
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.Pulpstar said:Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).
That's it really, trump's wall is his version of £350million/week to the NHS.0 -
In Sunil's absence...logical_song said:
Trouble is it was a significantly bad change.john_zims said:@williamglenn
'I suspect Farage will end his days as a sad Walter Mitty figure, claiming to have been the éminence grise behind every significant event in his lifetime.'
He will be able to claim that he achieved more in terms of significant policy change than the Lib Dems did in 5 years of government.
LEAVE 52%
REMAIN 48%
Imagine the little face with a halo, I don't know how to do it.0 -
I simply don't believe those Greek polls. If the rule questioning pollsters stands for Greek ones, please delete, because that's exactly what I'm doing.rcs1000 said:
Outside of Italy, the Euro is still remarkably popular. "The Euro is Good for My Country", net positive:taffys said:EURUSD has been in a very tight range (1.06-1.14) for a year.
Indeed. Whilst I appreciate your points about trade flows, I'm not sure I'd want to be long EUR right now.
The political calendar is such that its integrity will, at some juncture, come into question0 -
Sean Davies
Great point. Those voters were interviewed to provide fodder for mockery. To the media, they were props, not people. https://t.co/TBVSMxFpEH
Sarah Westwood
Media spent months interviewing Trump supporters. It's not lack of contact w/ them...it's lack of ideological diversity in newsrooms.0 -
You know what they say about men with small hands.Luckyguy1983 said:
Is tic tacs a euphemism?AlastairMeeks said:
Memo to PM: if you see the president reach for the Tic Tacs, make sure that there's a table between you and him at all times.frpenkridge said:Trump invites May to visit him as soon as possible.
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There was a rule questioning pollsters? That should have been ditched in June!!Luckyguy1983 said:
I simply don't believe those Greek polls. If the rule questioning pollsters stands for Greek ones, please delete, because that's exactly what I'm doing.rcs1000 said:
Outside of Italy, the Euro is still remarkably popular. "The Euro is Good for My Country", net positive:taffys said:EURUSD has been in a very tight range (1.06-1.14) for a year.
Indeed. Whilst I appreciate your points about trade flows, I'm not sure I'd want to be long EUR right now.
The political calendar is such that its integrity will, at some juncture, come into question0 -
Dismissing data that doesn't fit your preconceptions puts you in the same category as the Clinton campaign.Luckyguy1983 said:
I simply don't believe those Greek polls. If the rule questioning pollsters stands for Greek ones, please delete, because that's exactly what I'm doing.rcs1000 said:
Outside of Italy, the Euro is still remarkably popular. "The Euro is Good for My Country", net positive:taffys said:EURUSD has been in a very tight range (1.06-1.14) for a year.
Indeed. Whilst I appreciate your points about trade flows, I'm not sure I'd want to be long EUR right now.
The political calendar is such that its integrity will, at some juncture, come into question0 -
Small gloves?Essexit said:
You know what they say about men with small hands.Luckyguy1983 said:
Is tic tacs a euphemism?AlastairMeeks said:
Memo to PM: if you see the president reach for the Tic Tacs, make sure that there's a table between you and him at all times.frpenkridge said:Trump invites May to visit him as soon as possible.
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Why is there a delay in the Michigan result0
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There's a massive difference between Greeks above about 50 (i.e. have savings and are 90% in favour), and below 30 where it's the other way around.Luckyguy1983 said:
I simply don't believe those Greek polls. If the rule questioning pollsters stands for Greek ones, please delete, because that's exactly what I'm doing.rcs1000 said:
Outside of Italy, the Euro is still remarkably popular. "The Euro is Good for My Country", net positive:taffys said:EURUSD has been in a very tight range (1.06-1.14) for a year.
Indeed. Whilst I appreciate your points about trade flows, I'm not sure I'd want to be long EUR right now.
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"The mood in the Washington press corps is bleak, and deservedly so.
It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that, with a few exceptions, we were all tacitly or explicitly #WithHer, which has led to a certain anguish in the face of Donald Trump’s victory. More than that and more importantly, we also missed the story, after having spent months mocking the people who had a better sense of what was going on.
This is all symptomatic of modern journalism’s great moral and intellectual failing: its unbearable smugness. Had Hillary Clinton won, there’s be a winking “we did it” feeling in the press, a sense that we were brave and called Trump a liar and saved the republic.
...Trump knew what he was doing when he invited his crowds to jeer and hiss the reporters covering him. They hate us, and have for some time.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-the-unbearable-smugness-of-the-press-presidential-election-2016/0 -
Nasa wanted to stop it when the rocket was cancelled but Mississippi Republican senators led by Roger Wicker forced the project to continue.JosiasJessop said:
The problem with "public wasteful spending" is that waste is very much in the eye of the beholder. Whilst there are undoubtedly many wasteful schemes, others are deemed wasteful for political reasons when they fulfil a valuable purpose.Patrick said:
We know what he'll spend more on. We know less about where he'll cut. The EPA looks dead-dated. I suspect a bunch of public wasteful spending will quietly get pruned. The US public servant headcount (admin) is likely to fall sharply. QE showers may go in the direction of Main Street instead of Wall Street.rcs1000 said:
The first issue Trump faces is that his plans will lead - in the short term at least - to a massive increase in the US budget deficit. Congress will first need to authorise a massive increase in the debt ceiling.taffys said:"Earth sciences/Climatology" is going to be utterly demolished though.
All sorts of jokes going around the web on the 'what do you say to a climate scientist - big mac and fries please' front
BUt there's a serious point here. How much will Trump flay the 'worthy' economy that sucks billions out of the US tax payer. And could a conservative government here copy it?
However, this is a classic example of $349 million of waste:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2014/12/15/nasas-349-million-monument-to-its-drift/
"The test stand is an example of how U.S. lawmakers thwart efforts to cut costs and eliminate government waste, even as they criticize agencies for failing to do so. "
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-01-08/congress-makes-nasa-finish-useless-350-million-structure0 -
Nope, about Western Union transfers to Mexico.RobD said:
I thought we were talking about funding the wall?rcs1000 said:
I think undocumented immigrants work in a bunch of different industries.RobD said:
Surely construction is a short term cost?rcs1000 said:
In the short term, yes. But longer term, they'll end up using their mate who has some BTC based system.Pulpstar said:
For smart people like yourself, but surely the average Mexican worker will just be heading down to the local Western Union shop or using their website ?rcs1000 said:
The thing is that's insanely circumvent-able, unless he's planning to prevent/tax all international money transfers. And bitcoin.PlatoSaid said:
Yup - that's what's apparently proposed.taffys said:"Build the wall." "No." "BUILD THE F*CKIN' WALL!" "NO!"
Trump's......er.....Trump card is remittances. Mexican Americans send USD25bn a year south, if I remember correctly.0
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