Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).
There is already a fence along a significant proportion...he could fill in the rest with a "wall" as stage 1 and then still be able to claim he built his wall.
Has he thought about tunnels?
Trump's wall is imaginary. It is as tall as it needs to be, deep as it needs to be, and cheap as it needs to be.
Post truth politics at it's best. That's it really, trump's wall is his version of £350million/week to the NHS.
When have we ever had anything other than post-truth politics?
Politicians employed spin and hyperbole in ancient Athens.
'I suspect Farage will end his days as a sad Walter Mitty figure, claiming to have been the éminence grise behind every significant event in his lifetime.'
He will be able to claim that he achieved more in terms of significant policy change than the Lib Dems did in 5 years of government.
Trouble is it was a significantly bad change.
In Sunil's absence...
LEAVE 52% REMAIN 48%
Imagine the little face with a halo, I don't know how to do it.
And each time he puts it I agree, yes it was very close, only 3.8 % in it.
EURUSD has been in a very tight range (1.06-1.14) for a year.
Indeed. Whilst I appreciate your points about trade flows, I'm not sure I'd want to be long EUR right now.
The political calendar is such that its integrity will, at some juncture, come into question
Outside of Italy, the Euro is still remarkably popular. "The Euro is Good for My Country", net positive:
I simply don't believe those Greek polls. If the rule questioning pollsters stands for Greek ones, please delete, because that's exactly what I'm doing.
Dismissing data that doesn't fit your preconceptions puts you in the same category as the Clinton campaign.
I'm not dismissing it, I'm casting doubt on it. Anecdotally a Greek friend says she regards the Greek view as the euro being a total con. They haven't had a vote on it, but they did of course have a recent vote on accepting another EU measure, and we know how that went - complete with scandals about polling I seem to remember. Very easy for the Beeb to find some Greek lady in widows weeds to give them a vox pop all about how they all want stay in the euro to be good european citizens.
''This is all symptomatic of modern journalism’s great moral and intellectual failing: its unbearable smugness. Had Hillary Clinton won, there’s be a winking “we did it” feeling in the press, a sense that we were brave and called Trump a liar and saved the republic. ''
Ms Plato I guess that (rightly or wrongly) those news organisations that were favourable to Trump (EG Breitbart), will get juicy tidbits from the new administration, whereas others may be left out in the cold?
''This is all symptomatic of modern journalism’s great moral and intellectual failing: its unbearable smugness. Had Hillary Clinton won, there’s be a winking “we did it” feeling in the press, a sense that we were brave and called Trump a liar and saved the republic. ''
Ms Plato I guess that (rightly or wrongly) those news organisations that were favourable to Trump (EG Breitbart), will get juicy tidbits from the new administration, whereas others may be left out in the cold?
"The mood in the Washington press corps is bleak, and deservedly so.
It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that, with a few exceptions, we were all tacitly or explicitly #WithHer, which has led to a certain anguish in the face of Donald Trump’s victory. More than that and more importantly, we also missed the story, after having spent months mocking the people who had a better sense of what was going on.
This is all symptomatic of modern journalism’s great moral and intellectual failing: its unbearable smugness. Had Hillary Clinton won, there’s be a winking “we did it” feeling in the press, a sense that we were brave and called Trump a liar and saved the republic.
...Trump knew what he was doing when he invited his crowds to jeer and hiss the reporters covering him. They hate us, and have for some time.
"Earth sciences/Climatology" is going to be utterly demolished though.
All sorts of jokes going around the web on the 'what do you say to a climate scientist - big mac and fries please' front
BUt there's a serious point here. How much will Trump flay the 'worthy' economy that sucks billions out of the US tax payer. And could a conservative government here copy it?
The first issue Trump faces is that his plans will lead - in the short term at least - to a massive increase in the US budget deficit. Congress will first need to authorise a massive increase in the debt ceiling.
We know what he'll spend more on. We know less about where he'll cut. The EPA looks dead-dated. I suspect a bunch of public wasteful spending will quietly get pruned. The US public servant headcount (admin) is likely to fall sharply. QE showers may go in the direction of Main Street instead of Wall Street.
The bulk of Federal Spending is transfer payments, Medicare/Medicaid and defence. The Department of Energy and the EPA together account for less than 1% of federal spending.
Indeed. I seem to remember that fully 1/6th of the USA's GDP goes on health! An area deeply deeply ripe for efficiency drives. Kill Obamacare, generic drugs, cross state-border competition in provision, introduce a small % in self funding, reduced torts / liability claims, etc. etc. Create a much more functional market. In the UK we have a a Stalinist socialised system - not too crap and not too expensive. In the US they have a deeply inefficient insurance based system. Generally excellent but way, way, way pricey. France has a better system than both - socially funded for the most part but competitively delivered. It's those last two words that make the difference. The US could have better health outcomes and a saving of hundreds of billions if they truly reformed the whole shebang. The establishment would never try. Trump is just about cooky enough to do it.
Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).
There is already a fence along a significant proportion...he could fill in the rest with a "wall" as stage 1 and then still be able to claim he built his wall.
Has he thought about tunnels?
Trump's wall is imaginary. It is as tall as it needs to be, deep as it needs to be, and cheap as it needs to be.
Post truth politics at it's best. That's it really, trump's wall is his version of £350million/week to the NHS.
When have we ever had anything other than post-truth politics?
Politicians employed spin and hyperbole in ancient Athens.
Trump invites May to visit him as soon as possible.
Memo to PM: if you see the president reach for the Tic Tacs, make sure that there's a table between you and him at all times.
Is tic tacs a euphemism?
You know what they say about men with small hands.
Small gloves?
Big tic tacs. Perspective, innit!
Hahaha - what makes me laugh is that the euphimism I had in mind was Trump reaching for Mrs. May's 'embonpoint'. Actually spat my drink out at the other meaning. Still making me chuckle.
"Earth sciences/Climatology" is going to be utterly demolished though.
All sorts of jokes going around the web on the 'what do you say to a climate scientist - big mac and fries please' front
BUt there's a serious point here. How much will Trump flay the 'worthy' economy that sucks billions out of the US tax payer. And could a conservative government here copy it?
The first issue Trump faces is that his plans will lead - in the short term at least - to a massive increase in the US budget deficit. Congress will first need to authorise a massive increase in the debt ceiling.
We know what he'll spend more on. We know less about where he'll cut. The EPA looks dead-dated. I suspect a bunch of public wasteful spending will quietly get pruned. The US public servant headcount (admin) is likely to fall sharply. QE showers may go in the direction of Main Street instead of Wall Street.
The problem with "public wasteful spending" is that waste is very much in the eye of the beholder. Whilst there are undoubtedly many wasteful schemes, others are deemed wasteful for political reasons when they fulfil a valuable purpose.
Yep. It gets worse than that: the Shuttle project was fairly free from pork-barrelling; the now-scrapped Constellation program, and its replacement SLS program, are basically pork-barrel projects. They are designed not to fulfil a mission, but to spread NASA's money around.
Mr. 1000, alcoholics like strong beer. It makes them happy. Doesn't mean it's good for them
Mr. Taffys, the panel: Panellists include Conservative Dominic Raab, Labour's Yvette Cooper, the SNP's Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh, professor of American literature at the University of London Sarah Churchwell and Jan Halper-Hayes of Republicans Overseas.
EURUSD has been in a very tight range (1.06-1.14) for a year.
Indeed. Whilst I appreciate your points about trade flows, I'm not sure I'd want to be long EUR right now.
The political calendar is such that its integrity will, at some juncture, come into question
Outside of Italy, the Euro is still remarkably popular. "The Euro is Good for My Country", net positive:
I simply don't believe those Greek polls. If the rule questioning pollsters stands for Greek ones, please delete, because that's exactly what I'm doing.
Dismissing data that doesn't fit your preconceptions puts you in the same category as the Clinton campaign.
I'm not dismissing it, I'm casting doubt on it. Anecdotally a Greek friend says she regards the Greek view as the euro being a total con. They haven't had a vote on it, but they did of course have a recent vote on accepting another EU measure, and we know how that went - complete with scandals about polling I seem to remember. Very easy for the Beeb to find some Greek lady in widows weeds to give them a vox pop all about how they all want stay in the euro to be good european citizens.
But if you are an older Greek, with a pension stream in Euros, why would you want it changed?
It's younger Greeks who understandably hate it.
FWIW, Tsipras had the opportunity to take Greece out the Euro with the full support of the IMF and he bottled it. If leaving the Euro was as (universally) unpopular as you say it is, then a politicial party espousing that view would have been elected.
Clinton;s Secret Service detail were probably jealous of Trump's, they had to travel on a jet that looked like it had a commercial jetliner interior... Trump's got to travel on a private 757, with all the fittings!
EURUSD has been in a very tight range (1.06-1.14) for a year.
Indeed. Whilst I appreciate your points about trade flows, I'm not sure I'd want to be long EUR right now.
The political calendar is such that its integrity will, at some juncture, come into question
Outside of Italy, the Euro is still remarkably popular. "The Euro is Good for My Country", net positive:
I simply don't believe those Greek polls. If the rule questioning pollsters stands for Greek ones, please delete, because that's exactly what I'm doing.
Dismissing data that doesn't fit your preconceptions puts you in the same category as the Clinton campaign.
I'm not dismissing it, I'm casting doubt on it. Anecdotally a Greek friend says she regards the Greek view as the euro being a total con. They haven't had a vote on it, but they did of course have a recent vote on accepting another EU measure, and we know how that went - complete with scandals about polling I seem to remember. Very easy for the Beeb to find some Greek lady in widows weeds to give them a vox pop all about how they all want stay in the euro to be good european citizens.
But if you are an older Greek, with a pension stream in Euros, why would you want it changed?
It's younger Greeks who understandably hate it.
FWIW, Tsipras had the opportunity to take Greece out the Euro with the full support of the IMF and he bottled it. If leaving the Euro was as (universally) unpopular as you say it is, then a politicial party espousing that view would have been elected.
Because of prices rocketing? However, yes - your description of the demographic difference makes sense.
Not your last point though. The death sentence is popular - that doesn't mean a death sentence party is going to pop up and get itself into contention in the space of months, as you know.
Donald Trump to build a great long wall round the Mexican border?
Ho, ho, ho, those thick Clinton voters will believe anything. Should they be allowed to vote? Should they be allowed out on their own?
The Ami Horowitz video was funny.
I remember being in Boston about ten years ago - that's the other one in Massachusetts. I was asking at a shop for a cell phone to call Europe. They didn't sell them, but a group of black youngsters heard me and clustered round to give advice. It was excellent advice, they knew all the ins and outs and directed me to an Hispanic place up the road who sorted me out perfectly.
The British accent always helps, but the Californians not knowing their own black communities is worrying but believable.
"Earth sciences/Climatology" is going to be utterly demolished though.
All sorts of jokes going around the web on the 'what do you say to a climate scientist - big mac and fries please' front
BUt there's a serious point here. How much will Trump flay the 'worthy' economy that sucks billions out of the US tax payer. And could a conservative government here copy it?
The first issue Trump faces is that his plans will lead - in the short term at least - to a massive increase in the US budget deficit. Congress will first need to authorise a massive increase in the debt ceiling.
We know what he'll spend more on. We know less about where he'll cut. The EPA looks dead-dated. I suspect a bunch of public wasteful spending will quietly get pruned. The US public servant headcount (admin) is likely to fall sharply. QE showers may go in the direction of Main Street instead of Wall Street.
The bulk of Federal Spending is transfer payments, Medicare/Medicaid and defence. The Department of Energy and the EPA together account for less than 1% of federal spending.
Indeed. I seem to remember that fully 1/6th of the USA's GDP goes on health! An area deeply deeply ripe for efficiency drives. Kill Obamacare, generic drugs, cross state-border competition in provision, introduce a small % in self funding, reduced torts / liability claims, etc. etc. Create a much more functional market. In the UK we have a a Stalinist socialised system - not too crap and not too expensive. In the US they have a deeply inefficient insurance based system. Generally excellent but way, way, way pricey. France has a better system than both - socially funded for the most part but competitively delivered. It's those last two words that make the difference. The US could have better health outcomes and a saving of hundreds of billions if they truly reformed the whole shebang. The establishment would never try. Trump is just about cooky enough to do it.
Congress struck down efforts to allow Medicare/Medicaid to even negotiate drug prices. The result is that the biggest buyer of drugs in the world pays the highest prices.
As you say, insane. I hope you're right, but suspect vested interests will kill (positive) change.
A question: what meaningful waste do people think can be cut from the US budget?
One potential positive about Trump: the US needs a president who can be a leader. Obama's been an awful leader, although part of that has been the restriction in his powers. Trump might be a much better leader, although he needs to be careful to lead the entire country, not just Republicans.
"The mood in the Washington press corps is bleak, and deservedly so.
It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that, with a few exceptions, we were all tacitly or explicitly #WithHer, which has led to a certain anguish in the face of Donald Trump’s victory. More than that and more importantly, we also missed the story, after having spent months mocking the people who had a better sense of what was going on.
This is all symptomatic of modern journalism’s great moral and intellectual failing: its unbearable smugness. Had Hillary Clinton won, there’s be a winking “we did it” feeling in the press, a sense that we were brave and called Trump a liar and saved the republic.
...Trump knew what he was doing when he invited his crowds to jeer and hiss the reporters covering him. They hate us, and have for some time.
Mr bigly has arrived at the small house in Washington to measure up for the makeover .
What’s on the agenda, do you think they’ll discuss Hillary’s Presidential pardon…?
Which are the load bearing walls and which can be knocked through? Also how many flats can be built in the gardens and where to place the illuminated sign so it can be seen by the most people.
"The mood in the Washington press corps is bleak, and deservedly so.
It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that, with a few exceptions, we were all tacitly or explicitly #WithHer, which has led to a certain anguish in the face of Donald Trump’s victory. More than that and more importantly, we also missed the story, after having spent months mocking the people who had a better sense of what was going on.
This is all symptomatic of modern journalism’s great moral and intellectual failing: its unbearable smugness. Had Hillary Clinton won, there’s be a winking “we did it” feeling in the press, a sense that we were brave and called Trump a liar and saved the republic.
...Trump knew what he was doing when he invited his crowds to jeer and hiss the reporters covering him. They hate us, and have for some time.
Mr bigly has arrived at the small house in Washington to measure up for the makeover .
What’s on the agenda, do you think they’ll discuss Hillary’s Presidential pardon…?
Which are the load bearing walls and which can be knocked through? Also how many flats can be built in the gardens and where to place the illuminated sign so it can be seen by the most people.
Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).
There is already a fence along a significant proportion...he could fill in the rest with a "wall" as stage 1 and then still be able to claim he built his wall.
Has he thought about tunnels?
Trump's wall is imaginary. It is as tall as it needs to be, deep as it needs to be, and cheap as it needs to be.
Post truth politics at it's best. That's it really, trump's wall is his version of £350million/week to the NHS.
When have we ever had anything other than post-truth politics?
Politicians employed spin and hyperbole in ancient Athens.
The pound is rising quite sharply. Donald Trump has spoken to Theresa May with the prospect of an early meeting to discuss security and trade issues.
At the same time the EU are all at sea and frankly have not adopted the right tone with Trump, particularly Germany.
Today the Estonia government has collapsed and is likely to be replaced with a more pro Russia anti Nato government will the possibility of them leaving the EU.
The result yesterday can only be good for UK and Brexit and very worrying for the EU
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
How could anyone have written the script - just amazing
Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).
There is already a fence along a significant proportion...he could fill in the rest with a "wall" as stage 1 and then still be able to claim he built his wall.
Has he thought about tunnels?
Trump's wall is imaginary. It is as tall as it needs to be, deep as it needs to be, and cheap as it needs to be.
Post truth politics at it's best. That's it really, trump's wall is his version of £350million/week to the NHS.
When have we ever had anything other than post-truth politics?
Politicians employed spin and hyperbole in ancient Athens.
The pound is rising quite sharply. Donald Trump has spoken to Theresa May with the prospect of an early meeting to discuss security and trade issues.
At the same time the EU are all at sea and frankly have not adopted the right tone with Trump, particularly Germany.
Today the Estonia government has collapsed and is likely to be replaced with a more pro Russia anti Nato government will the possibility of them leaving the EU.
The result yesterday can only be good for UK and Brexit and very worrying for the EU
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
How could anyone have written the script - just remarkable and amazing
You really think Estonia is likely to leave the EU?
From the previous thread: if you think 'identity politics' is about to end, I think you may be disappointed. If anything, this election will reinforce identity politics. The demise of identity politics is never going to happen so long as many on the right believe we live in a post-racist, post-sexist society and feel uninclined to remotely give a damn about the experiences of minorities which suggest otherwise. Identity politics isn't some concept invented by the liberal-left: America was founded upon defining people by gender and race and has continued to do so for centuries. It still does. Minorities 'embrace' of identity politics, is merely a respond to all the demonisation they and their ancestors have historically faced and continue to face.
A PBer opined why identity politics is seen as 'good' if you're a minority, but not if you're white male. Maybe that's because white males have never faced systematic discrimination based on being white, or male in the Western world. While minorities, you know have. This idea that we should all embrace individualism seems in itself to be out of touch: once again it only works if racism, sexism is something of the past and no longer affects anyone on a systematic scale. The experiences of many Black Americans, for example, say otherwise.
Furthermore, the fact many demographics as a whole will have common experiences to some degree, means that the right's view desire for individualism isn't likely to happen. Then again, I don't know whether the right really what people to see themselves as individuals, or whether they just really want minorities to forget about their race and religious background and be an 'individual'. After all, identity politics seems to be just fine when used in relation to the WWC, and the WVM of course.
Currently online gambling in the us is highly restricted in most states, but there are carves out for lotto and DFS...despite the wire act and UIEGA lots of offshore gambling goes on, but lots of states are missing out on big tax bucks.
The UIEGA was pushed through via a anti-terrorist ports security act.
Given Trumps background in casinos. Could we see a big liberalisation?
The pound is rising quite sharply. Donald Trump has spoken to Theresa May with the prospect of an early meeting to discuss security and trade issues.
At the same time the EU are all at sea and frankly have not adopted the right tone with Trump, particularly Germany.
Today the Estonia government has collapsed and is likely to be replaced with a more pro Russia anti Nato government will the possibility of them leaving the EU.
The result yesterday can only be good for UK and Brexit and very worrying for the EU
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
How could anyone have written the script - just remarkable and amazing
You really think Estonia is likely to leave the EU?
It's one of the most pro-EU countries in the EU.
That was before the Government collapsed today and is likely to be replaced by a more pro Russia one
"Earth sciences/Climatology" is going to be utterly demolished though.
All sorts of jokes going around the web on the 'what do you say to a climate scientist - big mac and fries please' front
BUt there's a serious point here. How much will Trump flay the 'worthy' economy that sucks billions out of the US tax payer. And could a conservative government here copy it?
The first issue Trump faces is that his plans will lead - in the short term at least - to a massive increase in the US budget deficit. Congress will first need to authorise a massive increase in the debt ceiling.
We know what he'll spend more on. We know less about where he'll cut. The EPA looks dead-dated. I suspect a bunch of public wasteful spending will quietly get pruned. The US public servant headcount (admin) is likely to fall sharply. QE showers may go in the direction of Main Street instead of Wall Street.
The bulk of Federal Spending is transfer payments, Medicare/Medicaid and defence. The Department of Energy and the EPA together account for less than 1% of federal spending.
Indeed. I seem to remember that fully 1/6th of the USA's GDP goes on health! An area deeply deeply ripe for efficiency drives. Kill Obamacare, generic drugs, cross state-border competition in provision, introduce a small % in self funding, reduced torts / liability claims, etc. etc. Create a much more functional market. In the UK we have a a Stalinist socialised system - not too crap and not too expensive. In the US they have a deeply inefficient insurance based system. Generally excellent but way, way, way pricey. France has a better system than both - socially funded for the most part but competitively delivered. It's those last two words that make the difference. The US could have better health outcomes and a saving of hundreds of billions if they truly reformed the whole shebang. The establishment would never try. Trump is just about cooky enough to do it.
I think that last sentence needs a "try to" in there. Big ask but now GOP totally in control and recognising that it has to support Trump's presidency to avoid him fucking up on his own (which would hit it too), maybe, just maybe.
Currently online gambling in the us is highly restricted in most states, but there are carves out for lotto and DFS...despite the wire act and UIEGA lots of offshore gambling goes on, but lots of states are missing out on big tax bucks.
The UIEGA was pushed through via a anti-terrorist ports security act.
Given Trumps background in casinos. Could we see a big liberalisation?
From the previous thread: if you think 'identity politics' is about to end, I think you may be disappointed. If anything, this election will reinforce identity politics. The demise of identity politics is never going to happen so long as many on the right believe we live in a post-racist, post-sexist society and feel uninclined to remotely give a damn about the experiences of minorities which suggest otherwise. Identity politics isn't some concept invented by the liberal-left: America was founded upon defining people by gender and race and has continued to do so for centuries. It still does. Minorities 'embrace' of identity politics, is merely a respond to all the demonisation they and their ancestors have historically faced and continue to face.
A PBer opined why identity politics is seen as 'good' if you're a minority, but not if you're white male. Maybe that's because white males have never faced systematic discrimination based on being white, or male in the Western world. While minorities, you know have. This idea that we should all embrace individualism seems in itself to be out of touch: once again it only works if racism, sexism is something of the past and no longer affects anyone on a systematic scale. The experiences of many Black Americans, for example, say otherwise.
Furthermore, the fact many demographics as a whole will have common experiences to some degree, means that the right's view desire for individualism isn't likely to happen. Then again, I don't know whether the right really what people to see themselves as individuals, or whether they just really want minorities to forget about their race and religious background and be an 'individual'. After all, identity politics seems to be just fine when used in relation to the WWC, and the WVM of course.
Blimey
No wonder white men in Wisconsin didn't come out for the Democrats if this is the mindset. It's also why Labour is looking at shellackings here.
Rumours are swirling around that the electrification of the Midland Main Line is going to be deferred, and that new diesel-only trains are being sought for it. That would mean it'd be a long-term deferral.
This follows the recent announcement about the Great Western Main Line electrification deferrals.
This might become significant news (and hassle) for the government.
From the previous thread: if you think 'identity politics' is about to end, I think you may be disappointed. If anything, this election will reinforce identity politics. The demise of identity politics is never going to happen so long as many on the right believe we live in a post-racist, post-sexist society and feel uninclined to remotely give a damn about the experiences of minorities which suggest otherwise. Identity politics isn't some concept invented by the liberal-left: America was founded upon defining people by gender and race and has continued to do so for centuries. It still does. Minorities 'embrace' of identity politics, is merely a respond to all the demonisation they and their ancestors have historically faced and continue to face.
A PBer opined why identity politics is seen as 'good' if you're a minority, but not if you're white male. Maybe that's because white males have never faced systematic discrimination based on being white, or male in the Western world. While minorities, you know have. This idea that we should all embrace individualism seems in itself to be out of touch: once again it only works if racism, sexism is something of the past and no longer affects anyone on a systematic scale. The experiences of many Black Americans, for example, say otherwise.
Furthermore, the fact many demographics as a whole will have common experiences to some degree, means that the right's view desire for individualism isn't likely to happen. Then again, I don't know whether the right really what people to see themselves as individuals, or whether they just really want minorities to forget about their race and religious background and be an 'individual'. After all, identity politics seems to be just fine when used in relation to the WWC, and the WVM of course.
I hope Labour read this and take it all on board. Out of power for a generation.
The pound is rising quite sharply. Donald Trump has spoken to Theresa May with the prospect of an early meeting to discuss security and trade issues.
At the same time the EU are all at sea and frankly have not adopted the right tone with Trump, particularly Germany.
Today the Estonia government has collapsed and is likely to be replaced with a more pro Russia anti Nato government will the possibility of them leaving the EU.
The result yesterday can only be good for UK and Brexit and very worrying for the EU
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
How could anyone have written the script - just remarkable and amazing
You really think Estonia is likely to leave the EU?
It's going to be fun watching Yvette Cooper squirming tonight on QT. Can that furrowed brow of hers look any more lined with worry, and those tearful, achingly sincere eyes look any heavier, as she denounces Trump as the anti Christ? It would be even funnier if Labour were in government, just for a few moments. Is it still official Labour policy to have the President of the US banned from entry to the UK? Oh the rich irony of all this. The chickens have come home to roost.
Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).
There is already a fence along a significant proportion...he could fill in the rest with a "wall" as stage 1 and then still be able to claim he built his wall.
Has he thought about tunnels?
Trump's wall is imaginary. It is as tall as it needs to be, deep as it needs to be, and cheap as it needs to be.
Post truth politics at it's best. That's it really, trump's wall is his version of £350million/week to the NHS.
When have we ever had anything other than post-truth politics?
Politicians employed spin and hyperbole in ancient Athens.
It is a lament that the wrong side is winning with their spin and hyperbole, rather than the right side with their spin and hyperbole (which the latter would equate to truth).
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
Right now UK forces are operating in places like the Baltic and Romania to reassure the locals.
The EU are really going to 'punish' Britain on the back of that?
The game is up for the EU. With Donald Trump about to refuse to support EU countries who do not pay 2% into Nato including Germany and France and the likelyhood of a deal between US and Russia allowing Russia to retain Crimea and the eastern part of Ukraine, either the EU pays vasts sums into Nato or pay even vaster sums for their own army.
UK have a huge bargaining chip with the EU and the Baltics States, agree to UK associate status with access to the single market and control of our borders or you are on your own in defence
The pound is rising quite sharply. Donald Trump has spoken to Theresa May with the prospect of an early meeting to discuss security and trade issues.
At the same time the EU are all at sea and frankly have not adopted the right tone with Trump, particularly Germany.
Today the Estonia government has collapsed and is likely to be replaced with a more pro Russia anti Nato government will the possibility of them leaving the EU.
The result yesterday can only be good for UK and Brexit and very worrying for the EU
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
How could anyone have written the script - just amazing
That's your view - not of course how things really are.
The pound has moved a little higher but is still below where it was at the start of October and hovers around $1.25. It may well move higher once the enormity of Trump's economic fallacies sinks in.
As for the EU, it has 27 voices, not one. The tones will vary - Trump will have to deal with the EU and it has huge significance, arguably more than the UK. American troops operate within the EU as part of NATO and until and unless Trump decrees otherwise, the US is still part of the NATO alliance.
As a courtesy, Trump and May have spoken - Trump has doubtless spoken to other world leaders and whether we derive some sense of our own importance from this is up to us. At least we didn't blunder into the US electoral process this time unlike in 1992 when the Conservatives supported George HW Bush against Clinton so Trump will likely give May a hearing.
The pound is rising quite sharply. Donald Trump has spoken to Theresa May with the prospect of an early meeting to discuss security and trade issues.
At the same time the EU are all at sea and frankly have not adopted the right tone with Trump, particularly Germany.
Today the Estonia government has collapsed and is likely to be replaced with a more pro Russia anti Nato government will the possibility of them leaving the EU.
The result yesterday can only be good for UK and Brexit and very worrying for the EU
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
How could anyone have written the script - just remarkable and amazing
You really think Estonia is likely to leave the EU?
It's one of the most pro-EU countries in the EU.
That was before the Government collapsed today and is likely to be replaced by a more pro Russia one
Nevertheless, Estonia in 2014 didn't elect a single Eurosceptic MEP (unlike the UK or France, etc,), and has an economy utterly dependent on trade with the EU. According the Eurobarometer survey from July*, just 17% of people have a negative view of the EU.
Further, Russian Estonians are less than a quarter of the total.
If you want to bet on Estonia leaving I'll give you pretty good odds.
* Yes, yes, I know. Still, it's among the lowest of all the published figures.
Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).
There is already a fence along a significant proportion...he could fill in the rest with a "wall" as stage 1 and then still be able to claim he built his wall.
Has he thought about tunnels?
Trump's wall is imaginary. It is as tall as it needs to be, deep as it needs to be, and cheap as it needs to be.
Post truth politics at it's best. That's it really, trump's wall is his version of £350million/week to the NHS.
When have we ever had anything other than post-truth politics?
Politicians employed spin and hyperbole in ancient Athens.
It is a lament that the wrong side is winning with their spin and hyperbole, rather than the right side with their spin and hyperbole (which the latter would equate to truth).
It's one of those political irregular verbs surely... I speak the truth. He spins. They lie.
No wonder white men in Wisconsin didn't come out for the Democrats if this is the mindset. It's also why Labour is looking at shellackings here.
If what I've said is a 'mindset', then the views expressed on here are equally are a mindset as well. This site just isn't used to anyone questioning their view on identity politics, or indeed their views on minorities, which at times seems be just as contemptuous as how they say the left view the WWC. This site is sheltered from the experiences of a lot of minorities, and is often inclined to dismiss them, thinking they know more about their lives than they do. PB is arguably even sheltered from much of the experiences of the WWC, who they seem to have such confidence in speaking on behalf of.
Labour are looking at shellackings here because the party has no answers to the implications that globalisation have had on the working classes, that's why.
@MaxPB and your response merely proves my point. Very keen to complain about WWC voters views being ignored, but more than happy to do that to other demographics.
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
Right now UK forces are operating in places like the Baltic and Romania to reassure the locals.
The EU are really going to 'punish' Britain on the back of that?
The game is up for the EU. With Donald Trump about to refuse to support EU countries who do not pay 2% into Nato including Germany and France and the likelyhood of a deal between US and Russia allowing Russia to retain Crimea and the eastern part of Ukraine, either the EU pays vasts sums into Nato or pay even vaster sums for their own army.
UK have a huge bargaining chip with the EU and the Baltics States, agree to UK associate status with access to the single market and control of our borders or you are on your own in defence
There is no 'pay into NATO', there is a commitment to spend 2% of GDP on defence,
Labour are looking at shellackings here because the party has no answers to the implications that globalisation have had on the working classes, that's why.
The pound is rising quite sharply. Donald Trump has spoken to Theresa May with the prospect of an early meeting to discuss security and trade issues.
At the same time the EU are all at sea and frankly have not adopted the right tone with Trump, particularly Germany.
Today the Estonia government has collapsed and is likely to be replaced with a more pro Russia anti Nato government will the possibility of them leaving the EU.
The result yesterday can only be good for UK and Brexit and very worrying for the EU
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
How could anyone have written the script - just remarkable and amazing
You really think Estonia is likely to leave the EU?
It's one of the most pro-EU countries in the EU.
That was before the Government collapsed today and is likely to be replaced by a more pro Russia one
Nevertheless, Estonia in 2014 didn't elect a single Eurosceptic MEP (unlike the UK or France, etc,), and has an economy utterly dependent on trade with the EU. According the Eurobarometer survey from July*, just 17% of people have a negative view of the EU.
Further, Russian Estonians are less than a quarter of the total.
If you want to bet on Estonia leaving I'll give you pretty good odds.
* Yes, yes, I know. Still, it's among the lowest of all the published figures.
Estonia is the most successful former eastern block nation. Has highly educated population & great tech infrastructure.
The pound is rising quite sharply. Donald Trump has spoken to Theresa May with the prospect of an early meeting to discuss security and trade issues.
At the same time the EU are all at sea and frankly have not adopted the right tone with Trump, particularly Germany.
Today the Estonia government has collapsed and is likely to be replaced with a more pro Russia anti Nato government will the possibility of them leaving the EU.
The result yesterday can only be good for UK and Brexit and very worrying for the EU
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
How could anyone have written the script - just remarkable and amazing
You really think Estonia is likely to leave the EU?
It's one of the most pro-EU countries in the EU.
That was before the Government collapsed today and is likely to be replaced by a more pro Russia one
Nevertheless, Estonia in 2014 didn't elect a single Eurosceptic MEP (unlike the UK or France, etc,), and has an economy utterly dependent on trade with the EU. According the Eurobarometer survey from July*, just 17% of people have a negative view of the EU.
Further, Russian Estonians are less than a quarter of the total.
If you want to bet on Estonia leaving I'll give you pretty good odds.
* Yes, yes, I know. Still, it's among the lowest of all the published figures.
Estonia is a client state of the EU. They can never leave without destroying their economy.
Trump will build the wall, obviously Mexico isn't going to wire the funds directly for it.
Rubio and Cruz both supported a wall as well, and there exists a half baked one anyway. Netanyahu has shown that a wall is well possible too. I expect Trump to get along "the best" with Ben.
There's not going to be a wall like the one people picture, it would far exceed the US's infrastructure capability, that's assuming to other infrastructure projects.
It will probably be more money for the broader patrols, new sections in one or two headline places, tougher rhetoric (and no route to citizenship).
There is already a fence along a significant proportion...he could fill in the rest with a "wall" as stage 1 and then still be able to claim he built his wall.
Has he thought about tunnels?
Trump's wall is imaginary. It is as tall as it needs to be, deep as it needs to be, and cheap as it needs to be.
Post truth politics at it's best. That's it really, trump's wall is his version of £350million/week to the NHS.
When have we ever had anything other than post-truth politics?
Politicians employed spin and hyperbole in ancient Athens.
It is a lament that the wrong side is winning with their spin and hyperbole, rather than the right side with their spin and hyperbole (which the latter would equate to truth).
Immediate recession, punishment budget, £4,300/household all in the spin and hyperbole category.
Ms. Apocalypse, men face systematic discrimination in custody courts and when it comes to distributing public spending for victims of domestic abuse.
Inconvenient truths for lovers of identity politics.
A.K.A. those fonder of being liked on fb than being in govt. power.
Not really. You really believe white men have faced systematic oppression on the scale of minorities and women? That societies have been run on an ideology that white men are inferior? That there are systematic barriers with the economic, political, and legal system which have all affected white male opportunities? That culturally, white men have been demonised for centuries? That's all happened, has it?
Ms. Apocalypse, men face systematic discrimination in custody courts and when it comes to distributing public spending for victims of domestic abuse.
Inconvenient truths for lovers of identity politics.
A.K.A. those fonder of being liked on fb than being in govt. power.
Not really. You really believe white men have faced systematic oppression on the scale of minorities and women? That societies have been run on an ideology that white men are inferior? That there are systematic barriers with the economic, political, and legal system which have all affected white male opportunities? That culturally, white men have been demonised for centuries? That's all happened, has it?
No, but that doesn't mean they don't feel ignored.
The pound is rising quite sharply. Donald Trump has spoken to Theresa May with the prospect of an early meeting to discuss security and trade issues.
At the same time the EU are all at sea and frankly have not adopted the right tone with Trump, particularly Germany.
Today the Estonia government has collapsed and is likely to be replaced with a more pro Russia anti Nato government will the possibility of them leaving the EU.
The result yesterday can only be good for UK and Brexit and very worrying for the EU
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
How could anyone have written the script - just remarkable and amazing
You really think Estonia is likely to leave the EU?
It's one of the most pro-EU countries in the EU.
That was before the Government collapsed today and is likely to be replaced by a more pro Russia one
Nevertheless, Estonia in 2014 didn't elect a single Eurosceptic MEP (unlike the UK or France, etc,), and has an economy utterly dependent on trade with the EU. According the Eurobarometer survey from July*, just 17% of people have a negative view of the EU.
Further, Russian Estonians are less than a quarter of the total.
If you want to bet on Estonia leaving I'll give you pretty good odds.
* Yes, yes, I know. Still, it's among the lowest of all the published figures.
Estonia is a client state of the EU. They can never leave without destroying their economy.
Immediately after independence, they made the deliberate decision to hitch themselves to Germany and the West, tying their currency to the DM and attracting service businesses for near-shoring.
How long are the discredited British media going to spend posing outside the White House? There are no words to describe the absolute awfulness of the media coverage of this event.
Personally, I think Trump is going to make a much better President than most sneering lefties think.
The pound is rising quite sharply. Donald Trump has spoken to Theresa May with the prospect of an early meeting to discuss security and trade issues.
At the same time the EU are all at sea and frankly have not adopted the right tone with Trump, particularly Germany.
Today the Estonia government has collapsed and is likely to be replaced with a more pro Russia anti Nato government will the possibility of them leaving the EU.
The result yesterday can only be good for UK and Brexit and very worrying for the EU
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
How could anyone have written the script - just amazing
That's your view - not of course how things really are.
The pound has moved a little higher but is still below where it was at the start of October and hovers around $1.25. It may well move higher once the enormity of Trump's economic fallacies sinks in.
As for the EU, it has 27 voices, not one. The tones will vary - Trump will have to deal with the EU and it has huge significance, arguably more than the UK. American troops operate within the EU as part of NATO and until and unless Trump decrees otherwise, the US is still part of the NATO alliance.
As a courtesy, Trump and May have spoken - Trump has doubtless spoken to other world leaders and whether we derive some sense of our own importance from this is up to us. At least we didn't blunder into the US electoral process this time unlike in 1992 when the Conservatives supported George HW Bush against Clinton so Trump will likely give May a hearing.
One small point - since when does Trump have to deal with the EU.
Their attitude since yesterday is unlikely to build bridges and Trump's US simply has no need for Europe
Labour are looking at shellackings here because the party has no answers to the implications that globalisation have had on the working classes, that's why.
Yes, I think that is mentioned a lot on here.
Nowhere near as much as identity politics. This site believes that identity politics is the main course of Labour's (and the left in general) demise. Labour has always embraced identity politics, even when it won in 1997. A lot of Labour's reasons for not being power relate to bread and butter issues.
I heard a guy on telly earlier stating that Hillary is 'way to the left of Obama, politically'...
Is that true? I must confess that I'm not particularly down with US politics.
Generally not. Sanders' success led to incorporate certain parts of his philosophy into her platform, and there's also the large distinction between how Obama campaigned vs what he could do with the state of Congress. Hilary and Obama are relatively close together really.
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My God they're slow.
Politicians employed spin and hyperbole in ancient Athens.
Ms Plato I guess that (rightly or wrongly) those news organisations that were favourable to Trump (EG Breitbart), will get juicy tidbits from the new administration, whereas others may be left out in the cold?
Until the day after the referendum then it's :
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-result-nigel-farage-nhs-pledge-disowns-350-million-pounds-a7099906.html
https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/796686889659039744
Mr. Taffys, the panel:
Panellists include Conservative Dominic Raab, Labour's Yvette Cooper, the SNP's Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh, professor of American literature at the University of London Sarah Churchwell and Jan Halper-Hayes of Republicans Overseas.
It's younger Greeks who understandably hate it.
FWIW, Tsipras had the opportunity to take Greece out the Euro with the full support of the IMF and he bottled it. If leaving the Euro was as (universally) unpopular as you say it is, then a politicial party espousing that view would have been elected.
Not your last point though. The death sentence is popular - that doesn't mean a death sentence party is going to pop up and get itself into contention in the space of months, as you know.
Ho, ho, ho, those thick Clinton voters will believe anything. Should they be allowed to vote? Should they be allowed out on their own?
The Ami Horowitz video was funny.
I remember being in Boston about ten years ago - that's the other one in Massachusetts. I was asking at a shop for a cell phone to call Europe. They didn't sell them, but a group of black youngsters heard me and clustered round to give advice. It was excellent advice, they knew all the ins and outs and directed me to an Hispanic place up the road who sorted me out perfectly.
The British accent always helps, but the Californians not knowing their own black communities is worrying but believable.
As you say, insane. I hope you're right, but suspect vested interests will kill (positive) change.
One potential positive about Trump: the US needs a president who can be a leader. Obama's been an awful leader, although part of that has been the restriction in his powers. Trump might be a much better leader, although he needs to be careful to lead the entire country, not just Republicans.
At the same time the EU are all at sea and frankly have not adopted the right tone with Trump, particularly Germany.
Today the Estonia government has collapsed and is likely to be replaced with a more pro Russia anti Nato government will the possibility of them leaving the EU.
The result yesterday can only be good for UK and Brexit and very worrying for the EU
These are remarkable days and have been since GE 2015.
How could anyone have written the script - just amazing
It's one of the most pro-EU countries in the EU.
A PBer opined why identity politics is seen as 'good' if you're a minority, but not if you're white male. Maybe that's because white males have never faced systematic discrimination based on being white, or male in the Western world. While minorities, you know have. This idea that we should all embrace individualism seems in itself to be out of touch: once again it only works if racism, sexism is something of the past and no longer affects anyone on a systematic scale. The experiences of many Black Americans, for example, say otherwise.
Furthermore, the fact many demographics as a whole will have common experiences to some degree, means that the right's view desire for individualism isn't likely to happen. Then again, I don't know whether the right really what people to see themselves as individuals, or whether they just really want minorities to forget about their race and religious background and be an 'individual'. After all, identity politics seems to be just fine when used in relation to the WWC, and the WVM of course.
Currently online gambling in the us is highly restricted in most states, but there are carves out for lotto and DFS...despite the wire act and UIEGA lots of offshore gambling goes on, but lots of states are missing out on big tax bucks.
The UIEGA was pushed through via a anti-terrorist ports security act.
Given Trumps background in casinos. Could we see a big liberalisation?
Right now UK forces are operating in places like the Baltic and Romania to reassure the locals.
The EU are really going to 'punish' Britain on the back of that?
That isn;t true. ''Affirmative action'' programmes in America openly discriminate against whites and in particular white males.
No wonder white men in Wisconsin didn't come out for the Democrats if this is the mindset. It's also why Labour is looking at shellackings here.
Rumours are swirling around that the electrification of the Midland Main Line is going to be deferred, and that new diesel-only trains are being sought for it. That would mean it'd be a long-term deferral.
This follows the recent announcement about the Great Western Main Line electrification deferrals.
This might become significant news (and hassle) for the government.
Is that true? I must confess that I'm not particularly down with US politics.
http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/president
(click on popular vote tab)
Unless it means he's the projected winner of the election?
"Firewall"
I think the actual start times are at 4pm, but I'd need to check.
UK have a huge bargaining chip with the EU and the Baltics States, agree to UK associate status with access to the single market and control of our borders or you are on your own in defence
The pound has moved a little higher but is still below where it was at the start of October and hovers around $1.25. It may well move higher once the enormity of Trump's economic fallacies sinks in.
As for the EU, it has 27 voices, not one. The tones will vary - Trump will have to deal with the EU and it has huge significance, arguably more than the UK. American troops operate within the EU as part of NATO and until and unless Trump decrees otherwise, the US is still part of the NATO alliance.
As a courtesy, Trump and May have spoken - Trump has doubtless spoken to other world leaders and whether we derive some sense of our own importance from this is up to us. At least we didn't blunder into the US electoral process this time unlike in 1992 when the Conservatives supported George HW Bush against Clinton so Trump will likely give May a hearing.
Further, Russian Estonians are less than a quarter of the total.
If you want to bet on Estonia leaving I'll give you pretty good odds.
* Yes, yes, I know. Still, it's among the lowest of all the published figures.
A.K.A. those fonder of being liked on fb than being in govt. power.
Labour are looking at shellackings here because the party has no answers to the implications that globalisation have had on the working classes, that's why.
@MaxPB and your response merely proves my point. Very keen to complain about WWC voters views being ignored, but more than happy to do that to other demographics.
By and large, it's been a pretty big success.
Personally, I think Trump is going to make a much better President than most sneering lefties think.
Their attitude since yesterday is unlikely to build bridges and Trump's US simply has no need for Europe