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As you do...Charles said:
I did get to play around with a howitzer when I was in California though.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Charles, ah, yes, of course.
The space cannon (officially the MD StarGun) laughs in the face of puny gravity.
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Agreed. Presently the race is for Clinton to lose.foxinsoxuk said:Polls 3 months out are only straws in the wind, and always useful to see if they stand scruitiny.
It looks to me that those straws in the wind are being grasped at by the Trumpites. How does he win over the swing voters in swing states? I can see no plausible path.
Trump's "Rust Belt Plus Strategy" is falling apart. His path through Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Michigan and Wisconsin is dead in the water. He is behind in Ohio and the "Plus" state is filtering down to Florida where he is also behind without even noting having to play defence in Georgia and Arizona.
There will doubtless be many twists and turns along the road to November but Trump has to become not Donald and Clinton to drop the ball multiple times for Trump to become competitive again.0 -
Futurama fans may enjoy the fact that after Twitter started posting text of Trump utterances over Zapp Branigan[sp] pictures, the voiceover artist has started recording Trump lines as Zapp:
https://twitter.com/TheBillyWest0 -
The problem with Nate Silver in 2016 was that he did NOT listen to the polls about Trump.0
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It's everything I didn't know I ever wanted.Morris_Dancer said:Futurama fans may enjoy the fact that after Twitter started posting text of Trump utterances over Zapp Branigan[sp] pictures, the voiceover artist has started recording Trump lines as Zapp:
https://twitter.com/TheBillyWest0 -
They can surely wait, as Corbyn will win, and it's not a though the NEC was entirely opposed to him, he won on the other point with them.Wulfrun_Phil said:
Not until after Conference and thus the leadership election will the memebership change.kle4 said:
I hadn't considered that. If the ruling boiled down to that the NEC was not restrained in the manner the High Court judge thought in these matters, that it was granted under the rules the ability to make vast changes to the rules in such a way, then presumably the NEC could indeed now make all sorts of changes that would benefit today's losing side.theakes said:As I ventured earlier today presumably the new NEC with its new Corbynite majority can change the rule again and cancel what had been decided thereby allowing the 130, 000 to vote. Would not need an Appeal.
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Mr. kle4, we can make America Brannigan again!0
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Unlike many who changed their tune multiple times during the primaries I said Trump would win early on. Ditto Clinton. Accordingly Mrs JackW's Lower Limb Apparel Fund is in robust good health.Speedy said:Did you lose a lot betting on Mr.Silver's outdated judgement during the primaries ?
I call a spade a spade, if Marist suddently since then has produced numbers that are crap, then it's crap.
Same for Rassmusen, Fox and Reuters.
Why should I judge them differently than Marist if their results are equally crap ?
Simply because Marist is more favourable to Hillary that doesn't mean I thing, I never use the pro-Trump Rassmusen and Fox ones, so why should I use Marist ?
If they are equally crap but in different directions that doesn't make them less crap.
We disagree. You are wrong. Live with it.
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Please - We must make all Earthicans Brannigan again.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. kle4, we can make America Brannigan again!
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Murray wins .... phew .... 0
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2nd amendment.RobD said:
As you do...Charles said:
I did get to play around with a howitzer when I was in California though.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Charles, ah, yes, of course.
The space cannon (officially the MD StarGun) laughs in the face of puny gravity.0 -
Or she could have the ball knocked out of her hands, once but big time. Using for example, Julian Assange and Wikileaks. I wouldn't understimate Trump's man Roger Stone. Clinton is unpopular. It's not as if all she has to do is walk in a straight line to win.JackW said:There will doubtless be many twists and turns along the road to November but Trump has to become not Donald and Clinton to drop the ball multiple times for Trump to become competitive again.
What does it mean for Trump to become "not Donald"?
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That wasn't the message. The message was, fairly generally, that if you join you can have a say in leadership elections, without saying how long you might have to wait to do so. It wasn't that as soon as you join you will immediately be able to vote in a leadership election that might be anticipated to be held in the near future or even worse one that is effectively already under way following a resignation. If you allow members such a decisive role in elections and don't have long freeze dates you make your party particularly vulnerable to entryism, which is why Corbyn and the far leftists pulling the strings around his leadership don't want long freeze dates. For that reason, before the Labour membership rules were changed, long freeze dates were already used in selections in the Labour Party where members already had the final say i.e. local government and parliamentary selections.Sandpit said:
Not much comfort to those who signed up in May, with the message "Join the Labour Party and have a vote in our leadership election"prh47bridge said:
No. It simply means that when you sign up to an unincorporated association, which is what the Labour Party is, you accept the rules of that association.BudG said:Farcial decision from the High Court judges. Does this set a precedent allowing any Company to advertise on their webpages and take money for a product or a service that is not as described? Simply because the ruling body of that Company changed their minds?
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Half a dozen marines had pulled it up in the parking lot outside Target, so I went over to chat to them.RobD said:
As you do...Charles said:
I did get to play around with a howitzer when I was in California though.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Charles, ah, yes, of course.
The space cannon (officially the MD StarGun) laughs in the face of puny gravity.
Only in America!0 -
My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter0 -
UKIP look like they're losing the battle to convince people we should leave the EUlogical_song said:
The main conclusions that can be drawn from by elections over the past few months is that UKIPs vote is generally down, sometimes quite drastically. The LibDems are also generally doing better. Tories and Labour vary.ThreeQuidder said:
Not me, but I noticed you didn't have anything to say about them.MarkSenior said:I see that on the previous thread scoffers at Lib Dem performance in " Pointless Parish by elections" suddenly take an interest in the Conservative performance in McDuff by sea and Ambridge .
e.g. from yesterday:
Britain Elects @britainelects 17h17 hours ago
Ombersley (Worcestershire) result:
CON: 63.2% (+15.3)
LDEM: 14.8% (+9.7)
UKIP: 14.0% (-19.2)
IND: 7.9% (+7.9)
Lab and Grn didn't stand.0 -
And we're into the badminton final !
Or not. We just beat the Koreans, which bodes well though.0 -
yeah, add three zeros for the gross amount.Pulpstar said:
The balance of the book is more important than the actual figures though - how is your book balanced?
btw, I agree about laying Owen Smith @ 4/1. That's a decent bet.0 -
I know little about betting but I notice that Skybet now have Smith at 9/2 and Corbyn at 1/8.0
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Silly walks Briton stepping out ....0
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If the idea is to prevent entryism then why allow votes for £25?Wulfrun_Phil said:
That wasn't the message. The message was, fairly generally, that if you join you can have a say in leadership elections, without saying how long you might have to wait to do so. It wasn't that as soon as you join you will immediately be able to vote in a leadership election that might be anticipated to be held in the near future or even worse one that is effectively already under way following a resignation. If you allow members such a decisive role in elections and don't have long freeze dates you make your party particularly vulnerable to entryism, which is why Corbyn and the far leftists pulling the strings around his leadership don't want long freeze dates. For that reason, before the Labour membership rules were changed, long freeze dates were already used in selections in the Labour Party where members already had the final say i.e. local government and parliamentary selections.Sandpit said:
Not much comfort to those who signed up in May, with the message "Join the Labour Party and have a vote in our leadership election"prh47bridge said:
No. It simply means that when you sign up to an unincorporated association, which is what the Labour Party is, you accept the rules of that association.BudG said:Farcial decision from the High Court judges. Does this set a precedent allowing any Company to advertise on their webpages and take money for a product or a service that is not as described? Simply because the ruling body of that Company changed their minds?
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Tolt is so unbelievably comfortable.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
I spent a summer driving a herd of horses across Iceland when I was a kid - so much more bearable than trotting the whole way 0 -
H Clinton 415.66Pong said:
yeah, add three zeros for the gross amount.Pulpstar said:
The balance of the book is more important than the actual figures though - how is your book balanced?
btw, I agree about laying Owen Smith @ 4/1. That's a decent bet.
Johnson 360.14
Trump 558.43
Stein 1629.38
Other -305.62
Sanders 36.43
+5000 odd Pence/the Dem VP.
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How much is Clinton Spending again? $100M/ Month.JackW said:
Agreed. Presently the race is for Clinton to lose.foxinsoxuk said:Polls 3 months out are only straws in the wind, and always useful to see if they stand scruitiny.
It looks to me that those straws in the wind are being grasped at by the Trumpites. How does he win over the swing voters in swing states? I can see no plausible path.
Trump's "Rust Belt Plus Strategy" is falling apart. His path through Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Michigan and Wisconsin is dead in the water. He is behind in Ohio and the "Plus" state is filtering down to Florida where he is also behind without even noting having to play defence in Georgia and Arizona.
There will doubtless be many twists and turns along the road to November but Trump has to become not Donald and Clinton to drop the ball multiple times for Trump to become competitive again.
Since most people actually make up their minds right at the time of polling on wonders according to game theory as to the optimum time to commit resources.0 -
Make the most of it. Just you wait until Article 50 is invoked, den dis place will be comin' like a ghos' tonSeanT said:Anyone in sunny London right now will know this is true. The city is chocka, fit to bursting, with foreign tourists. Never known it so packed.
"Number of foreign visitors to Britain jumps 18% in the month after the Brexit vote"
"Luxury hotels are also reporting an uptick in visitor numbers: Claridge’s and The Connaught say they had “the best ever July on record""
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4186fb3c-5efa-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html#axzz4H8tay0I60 -
I keep expecting Jose Mourinho to cover that song...MontyHall said:
Make the most of it. Just you wait until Article 50 is invoked, den dis place will be comin' like a ghos' tonSeanT said:Anyone in sunny London right now will know this is true. The city is chocka, fit to bursting, with foreign tourists. Never known it so packed.
"Number of foreign visitors to Britain jumps 18% in the month after the Brexit vote"
"Luxury hotels are also reporting an uptick in visitor numbers: Claridge’s and The Connaught say they had “the best ever July on record""
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4186fb3c-5efa-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html#axzz4H8tay0I60 -
I can't see why Ryan's odds should be shorter than either Pence's or Kasich's. But he certainly seems to be in the thick of it. The Washington Post lambastes him for repeatedly denouncing Trump after endorsing him, while HuffPo slaps him for continuing to "stand by" Trump. If Trump crashes out, Ryan seems more likely to anoint the replacement than be it.Pong said:
The value probably lies in laying ryan and backing pence.Dromedary said:Ryan 90-110
Kasich 350-400
Pence 820-950
Not much movement.
That's what I've done;
Trump +16
Hillary +16
Ryan +-0
Sanders +-0
Pence +1200
everyone else >=+16
I'll be quids in if Trump or Ryan wins, and much bigger quids in if any of the other main Republican possibilities wins. I established that position after reading some of Trump's books. Regardless of what he said recently about going on vacation if he loses, it's unlikely that this exceptionally vain man will want to risk "being a loser", so if he can't win he'll withdraw. This is a guy whose coat of arms, before he got the Scottish heralds to give him an official one, included lots of little dollar signs. He uses the arms with the dollar signs on the cushions in his Versailles-like pastiche of a triplex flat.
Politico is reporting that today's Trump-RNC meeting in Orlando, requested by the Trump campaign, may be an "emergency" meeting. They quote one "source" as saying that "(The Trump people) finally realize they need the RNC for their campaign because, let’s face it, there is no campaign."0 -
Bareback trot is a good exercise on a horse.Charles said:
Tolt is so unbelievably comfortable.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
I spent a summer driving a herd of horses across Iceland when I was a kid - so much more bearable than trotting the whole way0 -
Collapse In the value of the pound?SeanT said:Anyone in sunny London right now will know this is true. The city is chocka, fit to bursting, with foreign tourists. Never known it so packed.
"Number of foreign visitors to Britain jumps 18% in the month after the Brexit vote"
"Luxury hotels are also reporting an uptick in visitor numbers: Claridge’s and The Connaught say they had “the best ever July on record""
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4186fb3c-5efa-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html#axzz4H8tay0I60 -
I find it utterly bizarre that decisions about who can vote in a leadership vote are apparently made by the NE on the fly, and retrospectively. I would have thought it should be laid down in the constitution eg "members of my one year's standing are eligible to vote in an election for Party Leader". As well as the apparent insanity of disallowing members of over six months' standing but allowing "supporters" who joined much more recently to vote.Philip_Thompson said:
If the idea is to prevent entryism then why allow votes for £25?Wulfrun_Phil said:
That wasn't the message. The message was, fairly generally, that if you join you can have a say in leadership elections, without saying how long you might have to wait to do so. It wasn't that as soon as you join you will immediately be able to vote in a leadership election that might be anticipated to be held in the near future or even worse one that is effectively already under way following a resignation. If you allow members such a decisive role in elections and don't have long freeze dates you make your party particularly vulnerable to entryism, which is why Corbyn and the far leftists pulling the strings around his leadership don't want long freeze dates. For that reason, before the Labour membership rules were changed, long freeze dates were already used in selections in the Labour Party where members already had the final say i.e. local government and parliamentary selections.Sandpit said:
Not much comfort to those who signed up in May, with the message "Join the Labour Party and have a vote in our leadership election"prh47bridge said:
No. It simply means that when you sign up to an unincorporated association, which is what the Labour Party is, you accept the rules of that association.BudG said:Farcial decision from the High Court judges. Does this set a precedent allowing any Company to advertise on their webpages and take money for a product or a service that is not as described? Simply because the ruling body of that Company changed their minds?
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I thought all well-equipped rednecks had a howitzer hooked up to the tow hitch on their pickup trucks.Charles said:
Half a dozen marines had pulled it up in the parking lot outside Target, so I went over to chat to them.RobD said:
As you do...Charles said:
I did get to play around with a howitzer when I was in California though.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Charles, ah, yes, of course.
The space cannon (officially the MD StarGun) laughs in the face of puny gravity.
Only in America!0 -
The 20k walk looks like a fast track to a double hip replacement.
1:19.4 would be a very respectable running time for 20k.0 -
538 looks at the prospect of and stages of a Clinton landslide :
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-clinton-landslide-would-look-like/0 -
As the judgement says:JohnLilburne said:
I find it utterly bizarre that decisions about who can vote in a leadership vote are apparently made by the NE on the fly, and retrospectively. I would have thought it should be laid down in the constitution eg "members of my one year's standing are eligible to vote in an election for Party Leader". As well as the apparent insanity of disallowing members of over six months' standing but allowing "supporters" who joined much more recently to vote.Philip_Thompson said:
If the idea is to prevent entryism then why allow votes for £25?Wulfrun_Phil said:
That wasn't the message. The message was, fairly generally, that if you join you can have a say in leadership elections, without saying how long you might have to wait to do so. It wasn't that as soon as you join you will immediately be able to vote in a leadership election that might be anticipated to be held in the near future or even worse one that is effectively already under way following a resignation. If you allow members such a decisive role in elections and don't have long freeze dates you make your party particularly vulnerable to entryism, which is why Corbyn and the far leftists pulling the strings around his leadership don't want long freeze dates. For that reason, before the Labour membership rules were changed, long freeze dates were already used in selections in the Labour Party where members already had the final say i.e. local government and parliamentary selections.Sandpit said:
Not much comfort to those who signed up in May, with the message "Join the Labour Party and have a vote in our leadership election"prh47bridge said:
No. It simply means that when you sign up to an unincorporated association, which is what the Labour Party is, you accept the rules of that association.BudG said:Farcial decision from the High Court judges. Does this set a precedent allowing any Company to advertise on their webpages and take money for a product or a service that is not as described? Simply because the ruling body of that Company changed their minds?
The Rule Book is a detailed document containing 15 chapters and 8 appendices. As
stated by Foskett J in Foster v McNicol at [28], it is not the product of a single
drafting exercise. The result is (see ibid at [53]) that it contains examples of what
Roskill LJ in Bristol Equity v Gowing [1997] ICR 393 described as “untidy
draftsmanship”.
Twas ever thus.0 -
Tritium is just another name for hydrogen-3, that is, a proton with two neutrons. However, that's not what moon miners would be looking for (they wouldn't find any since it is unstable, with a half-life of just a few days).RobD said:
Is there such a thing, or is it hydrogen-3?John_M said:
Gold is nowhere near valuable enough. Tritium-3 perhaps.Speedy said:
I don't know, the cost of the Apollo Program was 24$ billion 1969 dollars.Sandpit said:
Putting a man on Mars is relatively easy. Getting him back to Earth is the difficult bit.JosiasJessop said:
Musk has made several fortunes, reinvesting one into the next:Speedy said:
Well Musk made his fortune by advertising his cars on Wall Street.JosiasJessop said:
Talking of Mars, at the end of next month Elon Musk is due to give details of his planned BFR (Big Fu***ng Rocket) and MCT (Mars Colonial Transport) at the IAC meeting in Mexico.surbiton said:
He wants to have a settlement of one million people on Mars. It may sound ridiculous, but this is Musk we're talking about ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Colonial_Transporter
But I doubt he is going to find suckers for this.
Zip2
Paypal
Then, Tesla
He's aiming at a $500,000 price point for the Mars trip. Some people wold just go for the adventure, coming back later. The trick will be in making Mars liveable enough for people to want to live there (and to do so healthily). That last point is where the problem may lie, rather than the technology of getting there.
Mars is many times the distance of the Moon.
The cost of maintaining a space colony in either the Moon or Mars would make business sence only if they find large gold deposits.
What may possibly be feasible is mining for helium-3, that is, two protons with a neutron. This is stable but occurs very rarely on the earth; it is, however, thought to be quite abundant on the surface of the moon. Its value is as a potential alternative fuel for nuclear fusion reactors which, while requiring higher temperatures that the typically used deuterium-tritium reaction, would produce energy more efficiently and cleanly. Such reactors are a long, long way off yet though.0 -
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter0 -
Well done; good use of Wikipedia there.FeersumEnjineeya said:
Tritium is just another name for hydrogen-3, that is, a proton with two neutrons. However, that's not what moon miners would be looking for (they wouldn't find any since it is unstable, with a half-life of just a few days).RobD said:
Is there such a thing, or is it hydrogen-3?John_M said:
Gold is nowhere near valuable enough. Tritium-3 perhaps.Speedy said:
I don't know, the cost of the Apollo Program was 24$ billion 1969 dollars.Sandpit said:
Putting a man on Mars is relatively easy. Getting him back to Earth is the difficult bit.JosiasJessop said:
Musk has made several fortunes, reinvesting one into the next:Speedy said:
Well Musk made his fortune by advertising his cars on Wall Street.JosiasJessop said:
Talking of Mars, at the end of next month Elon Musk is due to give details of his planned BFR (Big Fu***ng Rocket) and MCT (Mars Colonial Transport) at the IAC meeting in Mexico.surbiton said:
He wants to have a settlement of one million people on Mars. It may sound ridiculous, but this is Musk we're talking about ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Colonial_Transporter
But I doubt he is going to find suckers for this.
Zip2
Paypal
Then, Tesla
He's aiming at a $500,000 price point for the Mars trip. Some people wold just go for the adventure, coming back later. The trick will be in making Mars liveable enough for people to want to live there (and to do so healthily). That last point is where the problem may lie, rather than the technology of getting there.
Mars is many times the distance of the Moon.
The cost of maintaining a space colony in either the Moon or Mars would make business sence only if they find large gold deposits.
What may possibly be feasible is mining for helium-3, that is, two protons with a neutron. This is stable but occurs very rarely on the earth; it is, however, thought to be quite abundant on the surface of the moon. Its value is as a potential alternative fuel for nuclear fusion reactors which, while requiring higher temperatures that the typically used deuterium-tritium reaction, would produce energy more efficiently and cleanly. Such reactors are a long, long way off yet though.0 -
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter0 -
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
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Thanks, though a PhD in plasma physics also helps.GeoffM said:
Well done; good use of Wikipedia there.FeersumEnjineeya said:
Tritium is just another name for hydrogen-3, that is, a proton with two neutrons. However, that's not what moon miners would be looking for (they wouldn't find any since it is unstable, with a half-life of just a few days).RobD said:
Is there such a thing, or is it hydrogen-3?John_M said:
Gold is nowhere near valuable enough. Tritium-3 perhaps.Speedy said:
I don't know, the cost of the Apollo Program was 24$ billion 1969 dollars.Sandpit said:
Putting a man on Mars is relatively easy. Getting him back to Earth is the difficult bit.JosiasJessop said:
Musk has made several fortunes, reinvesting one into the next:Speedy said:
Well Musk made his fortune by advertising his cars on Wall Street.JosiasJessop said:
Talking of Mars, at the end of next month Elon Musk is due to give details of his planned BFR (Big Fu***ng Rocket) and MCT (Mars Colonial Transport) at the IAC meeting in Mexico.surbiton said:
John M was probably in Mars in 2009/2010rcs1000 said:
Do you mean a recession, where no one else is having one?
He wants to have a settlement of one million people on Mars. It may sound ridiculous, but this is Musk we're talking about ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Colonial_Transporter
But I doubt he is going to find suckers for this.
Zip2
Paypal
Then, Tesla
He's aiming at a $500,000 price point for the Mars trip. Some people wold just go for the adventure, coming back later. The trick will be in making Mars liveable enough for people to want to live there (and to do so healthily). That last point is where the problem may lie, rather than the technology of getting there.
Mars is many times the distance of the Moon.
The cost of maintaining a space colony in either the Moon or Mars would make business sence only if they find large gold deposits.
What may possibly be feasible is mining for helium-3, that is, two protons with a neutron. This is stable but occurs very rarely on the earth; it is, however, thought to be quite abundant on the surface of the moon. Its value is as a potential alternative fuel for nuclear fusion reactors which, while requiring higher temperatures that the typically used deuterium-tritium reaction, would produce energy more efficiently and cleanly. Such reactors are a long, long way off yet though.0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMEKrFW9IcSimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.0 -
The Appeal Court ruling is clearly good news for Smith, most of the post January members would be Trotskyite entryists trying to prop up Corbyn and he does better with more established members while he has also been getting some union support with the endorsement of unions like the GMB. Corbyn remains favourite but it now looks like it will be a real contest0
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Hopefully they'll think to disguise the massive TV cameras right in the horses' faces a bit better in Tokyo too.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter0 -
A bit late halfway through the games but doubt they will be going to South America again anytime soon (except maybe Buenos Aires or Santiago). The next games will be in Tokyo which should be a model of efficiencySeanT said:Take the bloody games away from Rio. Zero atmosphere.
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I'm watching trampolining.
I know nothing about trampolining.
Only at the Olympics.0 -
I am certainly now tempted to put some money on Smith, there is clearly nothing to be gained from betting on Corbyn but Smith is still perhaps longer odds than he should bejustin124 said:I know little about betting but I notice that Skybet now have Smith at 9/2 and Corbyn at 1/8.
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I'd forgotten there were jam packed stands. For the horse dancing.SeanT said:
That's incredible. The differencePlatoSaid said:
htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMEKrFW9IcSimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.0 -
Like upside-down divingThreeQuidder said:I'm watching trampolining.
I know nothing about trampolining.
Only at the Olympics.
Golly, we've a chance of a medal0 -
Start gates cocking up in the cycling now.0
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Combine it with terrorism in France, Belgium and Germany, Turkey, Egypt and the Maghreb being off the agenda for both Britons and foreigners and the domestic tourist economy will do well this summer. I think both Greece and Spain are having their best tourist seasons for years too.OldKingCole said:
Collapse In the value of the pound?SeanT said:Anyone in sunny London right now will know this is true. The city is chocka, fit to bursting, with foreign tourists. Never known it so packed.
"Number of foreign visitors to Britain jumps 18% in the month after the Brexit vote"
"Luxury hotels are also reporting an uptick in visitor numbers: Claridge’s and The Connaught say they had “the best ever July on record""
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4186fb3c-5efa-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html#axzz4H8tay0I60 -
We have a medal!PlatoSaid said:
Like upside-down divingThreeQuidder said:I'm watching trampolining.
I know nothing about trampolining.
Only at the Olympics.
Golly, we've a chance of a medal0 -
Because having closed one loophole, the increase to £25 and the two day window was the best the NEC members who carried the vote could do close the other, given the balance of the votes they had at their disposal and the limitation of working within a party constitution with provision for a registered supporters scheme.Philip_Thompson said:
If the idea is to prevent entryism then why allow votes for £25?Wulfrun_Phil said:
That wasn't the message. The message was, fairly generally, that if you join you can have a say in leadership elections, without saying how long you might have to wait to do so. It wasn't that as soon as you join you will immediately be able to vote in a leadership election that might be anticipated to be held in the near future or even worse one that is effectively already under way following a resignation. If you allow members such a decisive role in elections and don't have long freeze dates you make your party particularly vulnerable to entryism, which is why Corbyn and the far leftists pulling the strings around his leadership don't want long freeze dates. For that reason, before the Labour membership rules were changed, long freeze dates were already used in selections in the Labour Party where members already had the final say i.e. local government and parliamentary selections.Sandpit said:
Not much comfort to those who signed up in May, with the message "Join the Labour Party and have a vote in our leadership election"prh47bridge said:
No. It simply means that when you sign up to an unincorporated association, which is what the Labour Party is, you accept the rules of that association.BudG said:Farcial decision from the High Court judges. Does this set a precedent allowing any Company to advertise on their webpages and take money for a product or a service that is not as described? Simply because the ruling body of that Company changed their minds?
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Indeed, I went to watch South Korea v Gabon at Wembley in the football and it was packedSeanT said:
Apparently the IOC was stunned by the crowds and atmosphere at the London Olympics: the total sell-outs for all sports. Virtually unprecedented.SimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
We forget how great London was, possibly the best modern Olympics ever0 -
And it's silver. Was that on the cards?ThreeQuidder said:
We have a medal!PlatoSaid said:
Like upside-down divingThreeQuidder said:I'm watching trampolining.
I know nothing about trampolining.
Only at the Olympics.
Golly, we've a chance of a medal0 -
Not South Africa. Please. It'll make these games look good.SeanT said:
Yep, I can't see the IOC risking another games in South America any time soon, after this, and maybe not Africa, with the one possible exception of Cape TownHYUFD said:
A bit late halfway through the games but doubt they will be going to South America again anytime soon (except maybe Buenos Aires or Santiago). The next games will be in Tokyo which should be a model of efficiencySeanT said:Take the bloody games away from Rio. Zero atmosphere.
The bidding cities for 2024 are: Budapest, Hamburg, Los Angeles; Paris; and Rome,
Given the success of London and the troubles of Rio it must surely be Paris.0 -
No possibly about it. Rio is only the third-worst games since (and including) Athens.SeanT said:
Apparently the IOC was stunned by the crowds and atmosphere at the London Olympics: the total sell-outs for all sports. Virtually unprecedented.SimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
We forget how great London was, possibly the best modern Olympics ever0 -
A silver! WOWThreeQuidder said:
We have a medal!PlatoSaid said:
Like upside-down divingThreeQuidder said:I'm watching trampolining.
I know nothing about trampolining.
Only at the Olympics.
Golly, we've a chance of a medal
Commentator we've never won a tramps medal anywhere0 -
Yes, it must surely be Paris' turn again, 2024 would also be exactly a century since the last Paris summer games in 1924 and the IOC may like the symbolismSeanT said:
Yep, I can't see the IOC risking another games in South America any time soon, after this, and maybe not Africa, with the one possible exception of Cape TownHYUFD said:
A bit late halfway through the games but doubt they will be going to South America again anytime soon (except maybe Buenos Aires or Santiago). The next games will be in Tokyo which should be a model of efficiencySeanT said:Take the bloody games away from Rio. Zero atmosphere.
The bidding cities for 2024 are: Budapest, Hamburg, Los Angeles; Paris; and Rome,
Given the success of London and the troubles of Rio it must surely be Paris.0 -
Silver in team dressage0
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Which is the 3rd?david_herdson said:
No possibly about it. Rio is only the third-worst games since (and including) Athens.SeanT said:
Apparently the IOC was stunned by the crowds and atmosphere at the London Olympics: the total sell-outs for all sports. Virtually unprecedented.SimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
We forget how great London was, possibly the best modern Olympics ever0 -
I love the analyst's comments though. It is but a foreshadowing of the doom ahead. On investment plans:SeanT said:Anyone in sunny London right now will know this is true. The city is chocka, fit to bursting, with foreign tourists. Never known it so packed.
"Number of foreign visitors to Britain jumps 18% in the month after the Brexit vote"
"Luxury hotels are also reporting an uptick in visitor numbers: Claridge’s and The Connaught say they had “the best ever July on record""
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4186fb3c-5efa-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html#axzz4H8tay0I6
“The main concerns they have are about maintaining the arrangements that facilitate travel — open skies, soft checks for visas, EU drivers licence, health cards, consumer rights protection — many of which may cease to exist once Brexit is complete.”0 -
I saw the mens Team Sabre at London Excel part of the Olympics. It was full apart from the corporate seats. I couldn't get anything for the Olympic Park, so got the Saturday at the Paralympics so could look around. We had a great day out. For the Paralympic athletics all 80 000 seats sold out and there was a great atmosphere despite no big names.SeanT said:
I was in that crowd! It's the only thing I got tickets for, apart from one women's football event - (France versus Japan at Wembley, also sold out and also brilliant atmosphere)kle4 said:
I'd forgotten there were jam packed stands. For the horse dancing.SeanT said:
That's incredible. The differencePlatoSaid said:
htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMEKrFW9IcSimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
I think Rio has largely organised it well and the venues look fine. Brazil is not a rich country and had a 4% decline in GDP this year, and that is the fundamental problem. The Brazil World Cup in 2014 was one of the best ever, but that was a single sport.
I can see the need for it to move around the world, but Olympic bids are very expensive and usually leave behind a poisonous financial legacy. We should not expect ever increasing shows if we want anyone other than G7 countries hosting.
I cannot see Britain hosting another for a few decades, but if a quick alternative for a 2018 or 2022 World Cup was needed then we could easily step into the breach.
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South Africa did not even bid. The selected candidate cities are Budapest, LA, Paris and Rome as SeanT suggests (Hamburg has withdrawn its candidacy after a November 2015 referendum). Durban is hosting the 2022 Commonwealth Games though so South Africa could use that as a dummy run for a future OlympicsPulpstar said:
Not South Africa. Please. It'll make these games look good.SeanT said:
Yep, I can't see the IOC risking another games in South America any time soon, after this, and maybe not Africa, with the one possible exception of Cape TownHYUFD said:
A bit late halfway through the games but doubt they will be going to South America again anytime soon (except maybe Buenos Aires or Santiago). The next games will be in Tokyo which should be a model of efficiencySeanT said:Take the bloody games away from Rio. Zero atmosphere.
The bidding cities for 2024 are: Budapest, Hamburg, Los Angeles; Paris; and Rome,
Given the success of London and the troubles of Rio it must surely be Paris.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Summer_Olympics
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Athens, probably. Beijing worst for its clinical plastic support, over-zealous security and state-approved 'protest zone'.PlatoSaid said:
Which is the 3rd?david_herdson said:
No possibly about it. Rio is only the third-worst games since (and including) Athens.SeanT said:
Apparently the IOC was stunned by the crowds and atmosphere at the London Olympics: the total sell-outs for all sports. Virtually unprecedented.SimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
We forget how great London was, possibly the best modern Olympics ever0 -
Brazil is the 8th largest economy in the worldfoxinsoxuk said:
I saw the mens Team Sabre at London Excel part of the Olympics. It was full apart from the corporate seats. I couldn't get anything for the Olympic Park, so got the Saturday at the Paralympics so could look around. We had a great day out. For the Paralympic athletics all 80 000 seats sold out and there was a great atmosphere despite no big names.SeanT said:
I was in that crowd! It's the only thing I got tickets for, apart from one women's football event - (France versus Japan at Wembley, also sold out and also brilliant atmosphere)kle4 said:
I'd forgotten there were jam packed stands. For the horse dancing.SeanT said:
That's incredible. The differencePlatoSaid said:
htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMEKrFW9IcSimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
I think Rio has largely organised it well and the venues look fine. Brazil is not a rich country and had a 4% decline in GDP this year, and that is the fundamental problem. The Brazil World Cup in 2014 was one of the best ever, but that was a single sport.
I can see the need for it to move around the world, but Olympic bids are very expensive and usually leave behind a poisonous financial legacy. We should not expect ever increasing shows if we want anyone other than G7 countries hosting.
I cannot see Britain hosting another for a few decades, but if a quick alternative for a 2018 or 2022 World Cup was needed then we could easily step into the breach.0 -
The tourists have come and the sun keeps shining. Maybe I'm imagining it but it feels like one of the sunniest summers we've had in years.
It was throwing it down back in May and June.0 -
July, August and September are actually the real summer months in the UK now, June is generally pretty wet and really late spring. Autumn only properly starts in Octoberchestnut said:The tourists have come and the sun keeps shining. Maybe I'm imagining it but it feels like one of the sunniest summers we've had in years.
It was throwing it down back in May and June.0 -
It used to be sixth and has been in recession since 2014.HYUFD said:
Brazil is the 8th largest economy in the worldfoxinsoxuk said:
I saw the mens Team Sabre at London Excel part of the Olympics. It was full apart from the corporate seats. I couldn't get anything for the Olympic Park, so got the Saturday at the Paralympics so could look around. We had a great day out. For the Paralympic athletics all 80 000 seats sold out and there was a great atmosphere despite no big names.SeanT said:
I was in that crowd! It's the only thing I got tickets for, apart from one women's football event - (France versus Japan at Wembley, also sold out and also brilliant atmosphere)kle4 said:
I'd forgotten there were jam packed stands. For the horse dancing.SeanT said:
That's incredible. The differencePlatoSaid said:
htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMEKrFW9IcSimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
I think Rio has largely organised it well and the venues look fine. Brazil is not a rich country and had a 4% decline in GDP this year, and that is the fundamental problem. The Brazil World Cup in 2014 was one of the best ever, but that was a single sport.
I can see the need for it to move around the world, but Olympic bids are very expensive and usually leave behind a poisonous financial legacy. We should not expect ever increasing shows if we want anyone other than G7 countries hosting.
I cannot see Britain hosting another for a few decades, but if a quick alternative for a 2018 or 2022 World Cup was needed then we could easily step into the breach.0 -
Maybe but given there are 195 countries in the world, 8th out of 195 makes it a pretty rich country to me, even if rather closer to average on gdp per capita terms. The country is pretty rich even if not many of its people areJohn_M said:
It used to be sixth and has been in recession since 2014.HYUFD said:
Brazil is the 8th largest economy in the worldfoxinsoxuk said:
I saw the mens Team Sabre at London Excel part of the Olympics. It was full apart from the corporate seats. I couldn't get anything for the Olympic Park, so got the Saturday at the Paralympics so could look around. We had a great day out. For the Paralympic athletics all 80 000 seats sold out and there was a great atmosphere despite no big names.SeanT said:
I was in that crowd! It's the only thing I got tickets for, apart from one women's football event - (France versus Japan at Wembley, also sold out and also brilliant atmosphere)kle4 said:
I'd forgotten there were jam packed stands. For the horse dancing.SeanT said:
That's incredible. The differencePlatoSaid said:
htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMEKrFW9IcSimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
I think Rio has largely organised it well and the venues look fine. Brazil is not a rich country and had a 4% decline in GDP this year, and that is the fundamental problem. The Brazil World Cup in 2014 was one of the best ever, but that was a single sport.
I can see the need for it to move around the world, but Olympic bids are very expensive and usually leave behind a poisonous financial legacy. We should not expect ever increasing shows if we want anyone other than G7 countries hosting.
I cannot see Britain hosting another for a few decades, but if a quick alternative for a 2018 or 2022 World Cup was needed then we could easily step into the breach.0 -
British cycling is some machine.
Another Olympic record0 -
It's the usual problem with headline stats. GDP per capita is back at 2010 levels in a country with ~9% inflation. A lot of of very poor folk in Brazil.HYUFD said:
Maybe but given there are 195 countries in the world, 8th out of 195 makes it a pretty rich country to me, even if rather closer to average on gdp per capita termsJohn_M said:
It used to be sixth and has been in recession since 2014.HYUFD said:
Brazil is the 8th largest economy in the worldfoxinsoxuk said:SeanT said:
I was in that crowd! It's the only thing I got tickets for, apart from one women's football event - (France versus Japan at Wembley, also sold out and also brilliant atmosphere)kle4 said:
I'd forgotten there were jam packed stands. For the horse dancing.SeanT said:
That's incredible. The differencePlatoSaid said:
htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMEKrFW9IcSimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
Can't get over all the empty seats - so disappointing.Pulpstar said:
They should change the dressage scoring system a bit tbh, monstrously loud aids by the germans compared to Carl Hester say.PlatoSaid said:My what a gorgeous gg ridden by Fiona Bigwood.
For anyone interested, this is an interesting piece on Viking horses and their unusual style
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/08/the-prized-ambling-gait-originated-in-york-as-study-traces-gene/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
I think Rio has largely organised it well and the venues look fine. Brazil is not a rich country and had a 4% decline in GDP this year, and that is the fundamental problem. The Brazil World Cup in 2014 was one of the best ever, but that was a single sport.
I can see the need for it to move around the world, but Olympic bids are very expensive and usually leave behind a poisonous financial legacy. We should not expect ever increasing shows if we want anyone other than G7 countries hosting.
I cannot see Britain hosting another for a few decades, but if a quick alternative for a 2018 or 2022 World Cup was needed then we could easily step into the breach.0 -
Went to Knightsbridge a couple of days ago. As soon as I left the tube station I was hit by this strong sweet perfume smell, which many Gulf Arab women dowse themselves in, walking down the road all you hear is the roar of Lamborghinis and Ferraris. Tho this is quite normal I think. the Dhiram is pegged to the dollar so should see a surge in tourists.SeanT said:Anyone in sunny London right now will know this is true. The city is chocka, fit to bursting, with foreign tourists. Never known it so packed.
"Number of foreign visitors to Britain jumps 18% in the month after the Brexit vote"
"Luxury hotels are also reporting an uptick in visitor numbers: Claridge’s and The Connaught say they had “the best ever July on record""
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4186fb3c-5efa-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html#axzz4H8tay0I60 -
Rio's big problem is that it isn't really that safe a city, is miles from anywhere and Brazilians couldn't really give a hoot about anything that their own aren't in.
And outside of football, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_at_the_Olympics that ain't all that much.0 -
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Golly - record gone again, Kenny this time0
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We're now seeded 1 and 2 in the sprints. So potentially we can get a gold AND silver I think now.Pulpstar said:0 -
why are we so good at cycling I would've thought the Dutch and other Europeans would be better.0
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Indeed, after two outstanding games we were due a poor one though I think Brazil has been unlucky in that its elected President is presently about to be impeached for corruption, perhaps along with her predecessor and the present incumbent who is holding the fort is almost universally loathed. Rio is a beautiful city and it could have been a great games, just a pity the government has been so preoccupied by infighting.SeanT said:
Brazil is a developing country, but its GDP per capita is TWICE that of China's. TWICE. And the Brazilian economy is large, as you say.HYUFD said:
Maybe but gJohn_M said:
It used to be sixth and has been in recession since 2014.HYUFD said:
Brazil is the 8th largest economy in the worldfoxinsoxuk said:
I sa.SeanT said:
I was in that crowd! It's the only thing I got tickets for, apart from one women's football event - (France versus Japan at Wembley, also sold outkle4 said:
I'd forgotten there were jam packed stands. For the horse dancing.SeanT said:
That's incredible. The differencePlatoSaid said:
htps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urMEKrFW9IcSimonStClare said:
Watching now – virtually empty, even the seats designated for the press is less than half full.PlatoSaid said:
What a difference from Greenwich Hospital and the superb view across the Thames to Canary.
I cannot see Britain hosting ano
They should be able to organise a decent Games and, given their huge population, they should be able to guarantee packed stadia
This is embarrassing. It just goes to show what an achievement Beijing was for a poor nation (in per capita terms) and what an achievement London was (in terms of attendance, enthusiasm, ambience - and legacy)
If I were the organising committee I would be on the phone to Barry Manilow, asking him to name a fee and then fly him down by private jet to sing 'Copacobana' supported by hundreds of dancing girls and samba dancers in the closing ceremony, it would at least make for a memorable finale!0 -
is the final today (soon)?Pulpstar said:0 -
I would recommend reading the judgement.oxfordsimon said:
I don't get it either.david_herdson said:
I'd be a bit pissed off were I one of them. Isn't that effectively saying that there's no reasonable ground for reaching an alternative decision - even though the High Court did exactly that?oxfordsimon said:
Appeal Court have refused leave to appeal. And awarded all costs to the complainants.david_herdson said:Farcical decision to end - or not - a farcical process. Can there be an appeal to the Supreme Court now or is the Appeal Court's ruling final.
It effectively gives Labour (and any other group with rules along similar lines) the right to act in a capricious manner to gerrymander an election result - and the courts will refuse to intervene.
Personally I would have thought the law of the land regarding contracts trumped anything in a party rule book. At least it should.
The point in this case is that the rulebook constitutes the contract between the party and its members. Therefore, provided the NEC has acted in line with the party's rulebook, there is no reason for the courts to intervene. The view of the Court of Appeal is that the clear, natural and ordinary meaning of the party's rules is that the NEC has the power to impose a retrospective freeze date. They point out that the High Court judge tried to interpret the rules in a way which is not compatible with the natural reading of those rules and, indeed, his judgement rendered some clauses of the rules meaningless.
If the rulebook was in any way contrary to the law of contract the law would have won. The view of the Court of Appeal is that the rulebook is not contrary to the law of contract. It is quite clear from the rulebook that the vote is NOT automatically granted to all members, only to eligible members and it is for the NEC to determine eligibility. It is also clear from the rulebook that retrospective freeze dates can be imposed, in part as an attempt to prevent entryism.0 -
Just to add, that doesn't mean the NEC can do whatever it wants. It does, however, mean that the courts will only step in if the NEC's actions are Wednesbury unreasonable.prh47bridge said:
I would recommend reading the judgement.oxfordsimon said:
I don't get it either.david_herdson said:
I'd be a bit pissed off were I one of them. Isn't that effectively saying that there's no reasonable ground for reaching an alternative decision - even though the High Court did exactly that?oxfordsimon said:
Appeal Court have refused leave to appeal. And awarded all costs to the complainants.david_herdson said:Farcical decision to end - or not - a farcical process. Can there be an appeal to the Supreme Court now or is the Appeal Court's ruling final.
It effectively gives Labour (and any other group with rules along similar lines) the right to act in a capricious manner to gerrymander an election result - and the courts will refuse to intervene.
Personally I would have thought the law of the land regarding contracts trumped anything in a party rule book. At least it should.
The point in this case is that the rulebook constitutes the contract between the party and its members. Therefore, provided the NEC has acted in line with the party's rulebook, there is no reason for the courts to intervene. The view of the Court of Appeal is that the clear, natural and ordinary meaning of the party's rules is that the NEC has the power to impose a retrospective freeze date. They point out that the High Court judge tried to interpret the rules in a way which is not compatible with the natural reading of those rules and, indeed, his judgement rendered some clauses of the rules meaningless.
If the rulebook was in any way contrary to the law of contract the law would have won. The view of the Court of Appeal is that the rulebook is not contrary to the law of contract. It is quite clear from the rulebook that the vote is NOT automatically granted to all members, only to eligible members and it is for the NEC to determine eligibility. It is also clear from the rulebook that retrospective freeze dates can be imposed, in part as an attempt to prevent entryism.0
