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Indeed. Wonder what Truss will do about females in prison...Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, it does amuse me that it's 'Women and Equality'.
Has the same intellectual credibility as 'Whites and Equality'.
I'm gutted about Gove's departure re Justice - he'd a great agenda and now gone. I hope from the backbenches that he pushes hard on this.0 -
On the bright side, it's a great reflection on how the Tories have moved on from section 28 and opposing equal age of consent.grabcocque said:
That is a remarkable fact, and really does the UK no credit.TheScreamingEagles said:Government of the plebs.
Greening is the first education secretary to have gone to a comprehensive.0 -
I think we can all agree the biggest loser from this reshuffle is Gideon's dealer.0
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aww come on. youve spent all year doing itScott_P said:
Link?TCPoliticalBetting said:Noted that both Scott_P and TSE putting the view forward that the sackings by May are a very bad move by May.
Stop making shit up
be fair0 -
Jones?SouthamObserver said:
Len has an election next year. His only challengers will be to his left. That may explain the Unite stance through all of this.Jobabob said:
Other two unions seen the wind change against Corbyn?SouthamObserver said:Potentially very significant ...
https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/753542655167107072
I just wonder whether GMB and Unison may be less helpful to Corbyn than they have been up to now. Jones being pro-Trident and advocating a second Brexit referendum are big, union-friendly differentiators with Corbyn given that they agree on so much else.0 -
@SophyRidgeSky: Department for Education will take on responsibility for higher education and skills - expanded role for new SoS @JustineGreening0
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Mike's asked me to write a thread on the reshuffle.
Now where's that briefing note.0 -
I'll email it to you...TheScreamingEagles said:Mike's asked me to write a thread on the reshuffle.
Now where's that briefing note.0 -
"In view of the serious constitutional questions my Government is addressing it is clearly inappropriate to have an Opposition front bench staffed by only 6 individuals. Since the Labour Party have been unable to remove the Leader Of The Opposition, I am calling for a General Election, and I trust the good citizens of Islington North will do their duty by the nation."Pulpstar said:
Paging @TissuePrice what is the plan then ?Richard_Nabavi said:
No, you don't want to go to the country from the weak position of losing a (genuine) confidence vote.Pulpstar said:May's plan might be thus:
Make just enough enemies to lose a confidence vote or some such (Budget eg)
Have to go to the country in spring 2017
Stuff Labour and increase majority
Have a bigger majority which renders her enemies impotent with new MPs ready to Yes Miss, No Miss three bags full Miss.
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This is the third time in two days I've seen this happen.Jobabob said:
Jones?SouthamObserver said:
Len has an election next year. His only challengers will be to his left. That may explain the Unite stance through all of this.Jobabob said:
Other two unions seen the wind change against Corbyn?SouthamObserver said:Potentially very significant ...
https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/753542655167107072
I just wonder whether GMB and Unison may be less helpful to Corbyn than they have been up to now. Jones being pro-Trident and advocating a second Brexit referendum are big, union-friendly differentiators with Corbyn given that they agree on so much else.
OWEN JONES IS NOT STANDING.0 -
It isn't a bloody "reshuffle" !!!!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Mike's asked me to write a thread on the reshuffle.
Now where's that briefing note.0 -
Universities merged back into education. Fucking finally.0
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But not the first to go to a state school of course eg Thatcher.TheScreamingEagles said:Government of the plebs.
Greening is the first education secretary to have gone to a comprehensive.0 -
Yet.......grabcocque said:
This is the third time in two days I've seen this happen.Jobabob said:
Jones?SouthamObserver said:
Len has an election next year. His only challengers will be to his left. That may explain the Unite stance through all of this.Jobabob said:
Other two unions seen the wind change against Corbyn?SouthamObserver said:Potentially very significant ...
https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/753542655167107072
I just wonder whether GMB and Unison may be less helpful to Corbyn than they have been up to now. Jones being pro-Trident and advocating a second Brexit referendum are big, union-friendly differentiators with Corbyn given that they agree on so much else.
OWEN JONES IS NOT STANDING.0 -
Wollaston to Health? Just thinking aloud0
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What is the correct term, so I get it right in the thread header.JackW said:
It isn't a bloody "reshuffle" !!!!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Mike's asked me to write a thread on the reshuffle.
Now where's that briefing note.0 -
Lol. evening wear or cout room wear?TheScreamingEagles said:
The rest of South Yorkshire likes to pretend Rotherham isn't part of South Yorkshire.nunu said:
from Rotherham the great county of South yorkshire!TheScreamingEagles said:Government of the plebs.
Greening is the first education secretary to have gone to a comprehensive.
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Appoints new cabinet?TheScreamingEagles said:
What is the correct term, so I get it right in the thread header.JackW said:
It isn't a bloody "reshuffle" !!!!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Mike's asked me to write a thread on the reshuffle.
Now where's that briefing note.0 -
Was Liz Truss the one who got into trouble with her Con Association in Norfolk and was branded a Tory Trollop?0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnxvUuSzbMITheScreamingEagles said:
What is the correct term, so I get it right in the thread header.JackW said:
It isn't a bloody "reshuffle" !!!!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Mike's asked me to write a thread on the reshuffle.
Now where's that briefing note.0 -
There may not be a plan.Pulpstar said:
Paging @TissuePrice what is the plan then ?Richard_Nabavi said:
No, you don't want to go to the country from the weak position of losing a (genuine) confidence vote.Pulpstar said:May's plan might be thus:
Make just enough enemies to lose a confidence vote or some such (Budget eg)
Have to go to the country in spring 2017
Stuff Labour and increase majority
Have a bigger majority which renders her enemies impotent with new MPs ready to Yes Miss, No Miss three bags full Miss.
Or that the plan just boils down to *fingers crossed the majority holds until 2019/20*0 -
I think most of the emigrants aren't German, but are foreign nationals who have left Germany again.TheWhiteRabbit said:
That's a hundred thousand, not a million(?)Indigo said:FrancisUrquhart said:
Wonder where a million Germans headed to? They can't have all retired to Spain to nick the sun loungers at dawn.Alanbrooke said:
Donner und Blitzen
last year 2.13 million people migrated to Germany and 1.0 million left leaving a net influx of 1.13 million. That's some churn.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/deutschland-mehr-zuwanderung-als-je-zuvor-14339969.html
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The Nottingham Police story is even more bonkers than you described it as being (according to today's Times) Apparently, they will treat comments like "a woman's place is in the home" or "it's her time of the month" as hate crimes, even though no criminal offence has actually been committed by making such comments. They will not attempt to prosecute such comments (presumably because the CPS would laugh at them) but will attempt something called "restorative justice".Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, it does amuse me that it's 'Women and Equality'.
Has the same intellectual credibility as 'Whites and Equality'.
Really, they are a bunch of cockweasels.0 -
From the Telegraph's reporting on the MPC:
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The Bank's network of contacts across the UK reported that "one third of business contacts they had spoken to in the week following the referendum result expected some "detrimental impact" from the result on their spending plans over the next year, the minutes said.
However, the Bank's Agents noted that there was "no clear evidence yet of a sharp slowing in activity" with many firms only beginning "to formulate new business strategies in response to the vote".
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With no Dave, what do you reckon to Bercrow's survivability ?TheScreamingEagles said:
What is the correct term, so I get it right in the thread header.JackW said:
It isn't a bloody "reshuffle" !!!!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Mike's asked me to write a thread on the reshuffle.
Now where's that briefing note.0 -
Will the good Labourites of West Bromwich East dare go for a deselection ?
Or would you end up swinging from a lamp post somewhere if you were to try such a move.0 -
Not sure - probably part of the Duchy of Lancaster (Savoy Estate?)HurstLlama said:
Fair enough, Mr. Charles, those streets do feel a bit tatty. As long as the developers are capped at the number of stories they can build to - I would hate to see skyscrapers along that stretch. Mind you that is a fair way (in London terms) West of the Garden Bridge, which is where we started this conversation.Charles said:
I was meaning Temple Tube.HurstLlama said:
What is this, Mr. Charles? Public money to be spent on redevelopment of the Temple? Surely not, the bloody lawyers have got enough money to pay for their own building work. I must have misunderstood you. Perhaps you are talking about Temple tube station.Charles said:
Couple of points:Lennon said:On the Garden Bridge - I have been against it for a while - indeed I wrote a blogpost about it back in January 2015 - the vast majority of which still holds in my view.
The link isn't to Temple, but to Temple Place - it's at the far Western edge of the Temple zone. The area between the Strand and the Thames (known as Northbank) has absolutely fallen behind most of the rest of London in terms of development - it really needs the kickstart of the extra footfall coming through it.
The £30m taxpayers money is planned to be used anyway on the redevelopment of Temple, so the actually difference in cost (a slightly stronger roof) isn't much
ANyway that stretch of the North bank West of Blackfriars Bridge down To Waterloo Bridge, even down to Westminster don't need any development, it is lovely as it is, thank you very much. Not that there is much space to develop anyway - you can't muck about with the Temple, the gardens, KCL or Somerset House.
It's not the literal north bank of the river, but the streets leading up to the Strand - Villiers to Arundel, Adams, etc that are the problem. It's fragmented and not really very nice - but lots of potential.
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Storming of the Bastille...TheScreamingEagles said:What is the correct term, so I get it right in the thread header.
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She won't wait until the Spring, it'll be this year. For all that she has said "no need for an election" there are two major issues:Pulpstar said:May's plan might be thus:
Make just enough enemies to lose a confidence vote or some such (Budget eg)
Have to go to the country in spring 2017
Stuff Labour and increase majority
Have a bigger majority which renders her enemies impotent with new MPs ready to Yes Miss, No Miss three bags full Miss.
1. No working majority. In Cameron's first year the government was repeatedly defeated and forced into u-turns. Then we had the few months of the new parliamentary year where a queens speech with no bills in it didn't get passed without amendment. Since then we have had Tory civil war and now she is gutting out the Cameroons from the Cabinet. How will she drive through massive constitutional change with no majority?
2. No opposition. Labour about to descend into rival legal appeals which assuming we don't fall apart over that means we will have a leadership election which will make us fall apart in September.
So. No majority. No real mandate for what must be done. Her party divided, our party more divided. The promise of a Thatcher-sized landslide majority. I don't see how she won't go to the country this year.0 -
I think she's better in the select committee.JonCisBack said:Wollaston to Health? Just thinking aloud
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Jeez - that's beyond the outer edges of Guardianland.Sean_F said:
The Nottingham Police story is even more bonkers than you described it as being (according to today's Times) Apparently, they will treat comments like "a woman's place is in the home" or "it's her time of the month" as hate crimes, even though no criminal offence has actually been committed by making such comments. They will not attempt to prosecute such comments (presumably because the CPS would laugh at them) but will attempt something called "restorative justice".Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, it does amuse me that it's 'Women and Equality'.
Has the same intellectual credibility as 'Whites and Equality'.
Really, they are a bunch of cockweasels.0 -
Sign of market confidence in UK Plc.nunu said:BoE interest rate unchanged....
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New government.TheScreamingEagles said:
What is the correct term, so I get it right in the thread header.JackW said:
It isn't a bloody "reshuffle" !!!!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Mike's asked me to write a thread on the reshuffle.
Now where's that briefing note.0 -
Let us spare a moment to rejoice that Nicky Morgan is no longer education secretary.0
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I see PB's anti-feminist community are out again. Time for me to pop off for a while – back later!!0
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Mr. F, thanks for posting that, as I don't get the Times.
That sounds demented. Nottingham Police must be doing a bloody good job, having resolved all actual crime and being forced to diversify away from law enforcement to give their officers something to do.0 -
Majorities can hold if you continually cut your cloth. But I don't know why you would if there were another 50 seats sitting on the table.Pong said:
There may not be a plan.Pulpstar said:
Paging @TissuePrice what is the plan then ?Richard_Nabavi said:
No, you don't want to go to the country from the weak position of losing a (genuine) confidence vote.Pulpstar said:May's plan might be thus:
Make just enough enemies to lose a confidence vote or some such (Budget eg)
Have to go to the country in spring 2017
Stuff Labour and increase majority
Have a bigger majority which renders her enemies impotent with new MPs ready to Yes Miss, No Miss three bags full Miss.
Or that the plan just boils down to *fingers crossed the majority holds until 2019/20*0 -
I like 'Mayhem'.Scott_P said:
Storming of the Bastille...TheScreamingEagles said:What is the correct term, so I get it right in the thread header.
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Thank youJackW said:
New government.TheScreamingEagles said:
What is the correct term, so I get it right in the thread header.JackW said:
It isn't a bloody "reshuffle" !!!!!!!!!!!TheScreamingEagles said:Mike's asked me to write a thread on the reshuffle.
Now where's that briefing note.0 -
Most of Yorkshire prefers to pretend South Yorkshire isn't part of Yorkshire....nunu said:
Lol. evening wear or cout room wear?TheScreamingEagles said:
The rest of South Yorkshire likes to pretend Rotherham isn't part of South Yorkshire.nunu said:
from Rotherham the great county of South yorkshire!TheScreamingEagles said:Government of the plebs.
Greening is the first education secretary to have gone to a comprehensive.
The JD Sports in Rotherham has an evening wear section0 -
Ed Conway "some people will be saying that Carney has mislead the markets again" over interest rates.0
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Just heard Martin Schultz's comments on the R4 news about this being about Tory party internal politics. Since when has it been appropriate for foreign politicians to comment on the internal affairs of another democracy or am I being too sensitive?0
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Ha, ha. Owen needs a new name.Jobabob said:
Jones?SouthamObserver said:
Len has an election next year. His only challengers will be to his left. That may explain the Unite stance through all of this.Jobabob said:
Other two unions seen the wind change against Corbyn?SouthamObserver said:Potentially very significant ...
https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/753542655167107072
I just wonder whether GMB and Unison may be less helpful to Corbyn than they have been up to now. Jones being pro-Trident and advocating a second Brexit referendum are big, union-friendly differentiators with Corbyn given that they agree on so much else.
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Yes. But actually quite liked at Environment. That is to say, considered passable; most farmers have a natural dislike of government so any SoS starts at a disadvantage.GIN1138 said:Was Liz Truss the one who got into trouble with her Con Association in Norfolk and was branded a Tory Trollop?
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@bbclaurak: Sounds like Hunt is staying at health, expect to be confirmed in next few minutes - but hey, its a reshuffle, not official til its official0
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Just a pity they were uselss and so could not put it to good use.David_Evershed said:
The coalition meant it was harder to make changes - which meant ministers got to know their brief, a good thing.CarlottaVance said:James Lyons: At this rate Theresa May will have sacked more cabinet ministers by lunchtime than Dave did in six years
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I thought she did a great job in Beijing, opening up new pork markets...TheWhiteRabbit said:
Yes. But actually quite liked at Environment. That is to say, considered passable; most farmers have a natural dislike of government so any SoS starts at a disadvantage.GIN1138 said:Was Liz Truss the one who got into trouble with her Con Association in Norfolk and was branded a Tory Trollop?
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Better to delay things until you see the real situation rather than acting in haste. When it comes to interest rate drops after 7 years of static rates you don't want to have to repent....PlatoSaid said:Ed Conway "some people will be saying that Carney has mislead the markets again" over interest rates.
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Well the journos either were wrong or are wrong...Scott_P said:@bbclaurak: Sounds like Hunt is staying at health, expect to be confirmed in next few minutes - but hey, its a reshuffle, not official til its official
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French ambassador to US pointing out that UK can't negotiate trade treaties until out of EU.0
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He's never recovered from BerlusconiAndrewSpencer said:Just heard Martin Schultz's comments on the R4 news about this being about Tory party internal politics. Since when has it been appropriate for foreign politicians to comment on the internal affairs of another democracy or am I being too sensitive?
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@ShaunLintern
Suggestion now that @Jeremy_Hunt is actuallu STAYING at health. Expecting confirmation soon.
Excellent trolling of media and drs by new PM
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I gather Labour is very short of money too.RochdalePioneers said:
She won't wait until the Spring, it'll be this year. For all that she has said "no need for an election" there are two major issues:Pulpstar said:May's plan might be thus:
Make just enough enemies to lose a confidence vote or some such (Budget eg)
Have to go to the country in spring 2017
Stuff Labour and increase majority
Have a bigger majority which renders her enemies impotent with new MPs ready to Yes Miss, No Miss three bags full Miss.
1. No working majority. In Cameron's first year the government was repeatedly defeated and forced into u-turns. Then we had the few months of the new parliamentary year where a queens speech with no bills in it didn't get passed without amendment. Since then we have had Tory civil war and now she is gutting out the Cameroons from the Cabinet. How will she drive through massive constitutional change with no majority?
2. No opposition. Labour about to descend into rival legal appeals which assuming we don't fall apart over that means we will have a leadership election which will make us fall apart in September.
So. No majority. No real mandate for what must be done. Her party divided, our party more divided. The promise of a Thatcher-sized landslide majority. I don't see how she won't go to the country this year.0 -
Yes. If we're a proper democracy then anyone should be able to comment on or criticise our government.AndrewSpencer said:Just heard Martin Schultz's comments on the R4 news about this being about Tory party internal politics. Since when has it been appropriate for foreign politicians to comment on the internal affairs of another democracy or am I being too sensitive?
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Yes, but 'which' would you have kept?Scott_P said:
As has been noted by others, she needs every single sacked minister to vote with her to keep her majority.CarlottaVance said:Which sackings do you think have been superfluous?
And each of them nay still have some loyal friends.
It is without question "brave"
She's made a strategic choice - May is not 'Continuity Cameron' - so some sackings were inevitable - I don't think she's been excessive.0 -
it would have meant pound falling further also it is a wait and see what happens in the real economy move. They won't be worried about rising inflation yet because inflation is too low at the moment meaning debt becomes bigger.David_Evershed said:
Sign of market confidence in UK Plc.nunu said:BoE interest rate unchanged....
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I wish they'd called it "Education & Equal Opportunities"PlatoSaid said:
Indeed. Wonder what Truss will do about females in prison...Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, it does amuse me that it's 'Women and Equality'.
Has the same intellectual credibility as 'Whites and Equality'.
I'm gutted about Gove's departure re Justice - he'd a great agenda and now gone. I hope from the backbenches that he pushes hard on this.0 -
He and Juncker are on their way out if Merkel gets her way. Lot of anger in EU over their roles in BrexitAndrewSpencer said:Just heard Martin Schultz's comments on the R4 news about this being about Tory party internal politics. Since when has it been appropriate for foreign politicians to comment on the internal affairs of another democracy or am I being too sensitive?
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Gavin Williamson Chief Whip0
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Gavin Williamson new Chief Whip0
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Gavin Williamson is Chief Whip according to Sky
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He can criticise and we can ignore.not_on_fire said:
Yes. If we're a proper democracy then anyone should be able to comment on or criticise our government.AndrewSpencer said:Just heard Martin Schultz's comments on the R4 news about this being about Tory party internal politics. Since when has it been appropriate for foreign politicians to comment on the internal affairs of another democracy or am I being too sensitive?
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That was just retweeted by George Galloway! My lunchtime is complete!Scott_P said:@DavidHerdson: Theresa May's majority now rests on sacked ministers. #reshuffle
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He wasn't talking to us. So, a bit rude, but not unexpected. We've just shaved the thick end of a percent off the EZ growth forecasts for the next two years. We can't expect them to be turning cartwheels. They think we're vandals who should have simply reformed our welfare system.AndrewSpencer said:Just heard Martin Schultz's comments on the R4 news about this being about Tory party internal politics. Since when has it been appropriate for foreign politicians to comment on the internal affairs of another democracy or am I being too sensitive?
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Grayling quietly weeps to himself in a darkened room.JackW said:Gavin Williams new Chief Whip
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numbertwelve said:
Let us spare a moment to rejoice that Nicky Morgan is no longer education secretary.
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Geographically, of course, the points we have discussed are at the two extremes - Villers [Embankment Tube] to Arundel [next to Temple Tube] and up to the Strand pretty much encompasses the North BankHurstLlama said:
Fair enough, Mr. Charles, those streets do feel a bit tatty. As long as the developers are capped at the number of stories they can build to - I would hate to see skyscrapers along that stretch. Mind you that is a fair way (in London terms) West of the Garden Bridge, which is where we started this conversation.Charles said:
I was meaning Temple Tube.HurstLlama said:
What is this, Mr. Charles? Public money to be spent on redevelopment of the Temple? Surely not, the bloody lawyers have got enough money to pay for their own building work. I must have misunderstood you. Perhaps you are talking about Temple tube station.Charles said:
Couple of points:Lennon said:On the Garden Bridge - I have been against it for a while - indeed I wrote a blogpost about it back in January 2015 - the vast majority of which still holds in my view.
The link isn't to Temple, but to Temple Place - it's at the far Western edge of the Temple zone. The area between the Strand and the Thames (known as Northbank) has absolutely fallen behind most of the rest of London in terms of development - it really needs the kickstart of the extra footfall coming through it.
The £30m taxpayers money is planned to be used anyway on the redevelopment of Temple, so the actually difference in cost (a slightly stronger roof) isn't much
ANyway that stretch of the North bank West of Blackfriars Bridge down To Waterloo Bridge, even down to Westminster don't need any development, it is lovely as it is, thank you very much. Not that there is much space to develop anyway - you can't muck about with the Temple, the gardens, KCL or Somerset House.
It's not the literal north bank of the river, but the streets leading up to the Strand - Villiers to Arundel, Adams, etc that are the problem. It's fragmented and not really very nice - but lots of potential.
I wonder who owns that land between Villiers Street and Adam Street
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Zeus's or Apollo's?JackW said:0 -
James Forsyth, deadpan: Interesting,universities going into the Department for Education0
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Nobody wants the Health job so Hunt may stay.0
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dup.0
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more likely he voted for a cut but wasn't backed by the others- he will have to go soon.eek said:
Better to delay things until you see the real situation rather than acting in haste. When it comes to interest rate drops after 7 years of static rates you don't want to have to repent....PlatoSaid said:Ed Conway "some people will be saying that Carney has mislead the markets again" over interest rates.
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Me too - anything else is all pandering.Charles said:
I wish they'd called it "Education & Equal Opportunities"PlatoSaid said:
Indeed. Wonder what Truss will do about females in prison...Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, it does amuse me that it's 'Women and Equality'.
Has the same intellectual credibility as 'Whites and Equality'.
I'm gutted about Gove's departure re Justice - he'd a great agenda and now gone. I hope from the backbenches that he pushes hard on this.0 -
Earlier it was suggested DEC + BIS. But BIS has been reduced to a shell.CarlottaVance said:James Forsyth, deadpan: Interesting,universities going into the Department for Education
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How much does an election cost to hold.... £1million or more...PlatoSaid said:
I gather Labour is very short of money too.RochdalePioneers said:
She won't wait until the Spring, it'll be this year. For all that she has said "no need for an election" there are two major issues:Pulpstar said:May's plan might be thus:
Make just enough enemies to lose a confidence vote or some such (Budget eg)
Have to go to the country in spring 2017
Stuff Labour and increase majority
Have a bigger majority which renders her enemies impotent with new MPs ready to Yes Miss, No Miss three bags full Miss.
1. No working majority. In Cameron's first year the government was repeatedly defeated and forced into u-turns. Then we had the few months of the new parliamentary year where a queens speech with no bills in it didn't get passed without amendment. Since then we have had Tory civil war and now she is gutting out the Cameroons from the Cabinet. How will she drive through massive constitutional change with no majority?
2. No opposition. Labour about to descend into rival legal appeals which assuming we don't fall apart over that means we will have a leadership election which will make us fall apart in September.
So. No majority. No real mandate for what must be done. Her party divided, our party more divided. The promise of a Thatcher-sized landslide majority. I don't see how she won't go to the country this year.0 -
Can we note that that is about the *expectations* of business contacts; it isn't about objective, quantifiable financial data. Those expectations are based mainly - I assume - on expectations as to how the politics are going to pan out. We can hope that perhaps the top 5% of those polled base their political expectations on a close reading of PB.com. The rest don't and their political opinions are no more informed than anyone else's. This sort of survey is therefore a lot too close for comfort to being a voodoo poll disguised as something else, and a million miles away from being real data.John_M said:From the Telegraph's reporting on the MPC:
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The Bank's network of contacts across the UK reported that "one third of business contacts they had spoken to in the week following the referendum result expected some "detrimental impact" from the result on their spending plans over the next year, the minutes said.
However, the Bank's Agents noted that there was "no clear evidence yet of a sharp slowing in activity" with many firms only beginning "to formulate new business strategies in response to the vote".
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Not grinding any axe at all here, just pleading for a bit of epistemological rigour.0 -
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I've seen her a few times on QT and thought she was quite good. These Con associations in Norfolk are an odd bunch.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Yes. But actually quite liked at Environment. That is to say, considered passable; most farmers have a natural dislike of government so any SoS starts at a disadvantage.GIN1138 said:Was Liz Truss the one who got into trouble with her Con Association in Norfolk and was branded a Tory Trollop?
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Slow hand clap...
@bbclaurak: Lots and lots of changes, this is more like a new govt after an election than a reshuffle0 -
Fair enough I suppose but still a bit non-U I'd have thought.not_on_fire said:
Yes. If we're a proper democracy then anyone should be able to comment on or criticise our government.AndrewSpencer said:Just heard Martin Schultz's comments on the R4 news about this being about Tory party internal politics. Since when has it been appropriate for foreign politicians to comment on the internal affairs of another democracy or am I being too sensitive?
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Vote for rates to be unchanged was 8 to 1.0
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NEW THREAD NEW THREAD
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Gavin Williamson, Dave's long serving PPS, apparently new chief whip.0
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She catches on fast doesn't she...Scott_P said:Slow hand clap...
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How many grade runs has Gavin Williamson jumped? From Cameron's aide to Chief Whip?!0
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All this talk of an early election is just the PB bubble getting over-excited.
We are still watching the new Government emerge.
Deep breaths and just wait and see.0 -
Much more than £1m in the local authorities who run the 650 elections.eek said:
How much does an election cost to hold.... £1million or more...PlatoSaid said:
I gather Labour is very short of money too.RochdalePioneers said:
She won't wait until the Spring, it'll be this year. For all that she has said "no need for an election" there are two major issues:Pulpstar said:May's plan might be thus:
Make just enough enemies to lose a confidence vote or some such (Budget eg)
Have to go to the country in spring 2017
Stuff Labour and increase majority
Have a bigger majority which renders her enemies impotent with new MPs ready to Yes Miss, No Miss three bags full Miss.
1. No working majority. In Cameron's first year the government was repeatedly defeated and forced into u-turns. Then we had the few months of the new parliamentary year where a queens speech with no bills in it didn't get passed without amendment. Since then we have had Tory civil war and now she is gutting out the Cameroons from the Cabinet. How will she drive through massive constitutional change with no majority?
2. No opposition. Labour about to descend into rival legal appeals which assuming we don't fall apart over that means we will have a leadership election which will make us fall apart in September.
So. No majority. No real mandate for what must be done. Her party divided, our party more divided. The promise of a Thatcher-sized landslide majority. I don't see how she won't go to the country this year.0 -
Just shows how little he understands UK politics.......AndrewSpencer said:Just heard Martin Schultz's comments on the R4 news about this being about Tory party internal politics.
We can add him to 'French Foreign Minister who isn't a diplomat'......0 -
Education & Opportunities would be even better.... After 40 years the equal bit really doesn't need to be there (sadly I know it does).. It also works better as an incentiveCharles said:
I wish they'd called it "Education & Equal Opportunities"PlatoSaid said:
Indeed. Wonder what Truss will do about females in prison...Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, it does amuse me that it's 'Women and Equality'.
Has the same intellectual credibility as 'Whites and Equality'.
I'm gutted about Gove's departure re Justice - he'd a great agenda and now gone. I hope from the backbenches that he pushes hard on this.
Education leads to Opportunities...0 -
Chris Froome and the boys are heading up Ventoux today btw.
First big day in the tour imo.0
