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Spot on. Dan is awesome and quite wasted being in Brussels (apart from the time he kebabbed Gordon Brown).hunchman said:
6 minutes of pure brilliance encapsulating my view exactly - only Ronnie O'Sullivan's 147 in 5 minutes and 20 seconds back in 1997 compares with such a contribution over a similar time period!Casino_Royale said:
I saw that live. Dan brought the house down.SeanT said:This is absolutely fantastic from Daniel Hannan. Watch it to the end. Great oratory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRuIhtC9Mo&app=desktop
I challenge anyone to watch it without feeling at least a tiny yearning for LEAVE.
If you look very closely you can see Clegg and Kendall, smiling, as they (ever so slightly jealously) admire the sheer skill and power of his oratory.
I would love to see him in Westminster.
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Mr. T, it is weird. There's a massive userbase, it's where a lot of news breaks, and yet, as you say, they've not found a way to turn a profit.0
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You can keep it and have Osborne thrown in for freesurbiton said:
Surrey CC HQ is actually in Kingston, which is now in London.Alanbrooke said:
The issue isn't London falling in to the sea, it's that the place would grow at a different pace and gradually suffer from losing its hinterland.Jobabob said:@Alanbrooke
Sheer fantasy. Just as all attempts to artificially dilute economic power by creating manmade capitals have failed (see Brasilia), making a new UK capital with an independent London would also fail. London would still dominate as a internationalist, open, free market, europhile city, pulling in talent like a magnet.
Lots of those companies HQd in London would need to move their jurisdiction. All of government would move out including the BoE. So where the money goes people follow.0 -
Iain Martin @iainmartin1
The Remain campaign seems to be melting. Plot lost. The astonishment and growing fury that perhaps half the country disagrees is revealing.0 -
They only go to Twitter because its publicly visible unlike Facebook. The fact it's publicly visible is also why it's been far harder to monetise compared to FacebookSeanT said:
It is remarkable that Twitter have been unable to monetise, in any way, the most politically powerful and important social medium.MaxPB said:
He'll be just in time for the lights to turn off when they run out of money.SeanT said:
It's not though is it? If you're into politics or news, then Twitter is where it's at. Everyone is on it.Charles said:
Don't. It's an old medium. Snapchat's where it's at...Casino_Royale said:Off topic, I'm thinking (only thinking, mind) of starting to twat.
What do I need to know?
If you're 17 and want to gossip or sext then, yes, Snapchat.
Facebook is for cat gifs and mawkish family crap.
Tumblr for porn
Pinterest - ??
Whenever something big happens, people go to Twitter for reactions, debate, public opinion (from the Arab Spring to the new Top Gear).
Yet they make a loss year after year.0 -
I believe Twitter is only for older people - the ones who don't spend money in response to advertising.SeanT said:
It is remarkable that Twitter have been unable to monetise, in any way, the most politically powerful and important social medium.MaxPB said:
He'll be just in time for the lights to turn off when they run out of money.SeanT said:
It's not though is it? If you're into politics or news, then Twitter is where it's at. Everyone is on it.Charles said:
Don't. It's an old medium. Snapchat's where it's at...Casino_Royale said:Off topic, I'm thinking (only thinking, mind) of starting to twat.
What do I need to know?
If you're 17 and want to gossip or sext then, yes, Snapchat.
Facebook is for cat gifs and mawkish family crap.
Tumblr for porn
Pinterest - ??
Whenever something big happens, people go to Twitter for reactions, debate, public opinion (from the Arab Spring to the new Top Gear).
Yet they make a loss year after year.0 -
Twiter will in the near future be taught in business classes of a good case study of how not to run / develop a business.0
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No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.0
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I hope this doesn't mean I have to start embedding my snapchats into PB thread headers like I do with my tweets.FrancisUrquhart said:Snap chat more daily users than twitter now...hope nobody has any serious chunk of money invested in twitter.
Because that's a disaster waiting to happen.0 -
The only problem is his pitch. Lower it a tad and it would be perfect.MaxPB said:
Absolutely stunning oratory.SeanT said:This is absolutely fantastic from Daniel Hannan. Watch it to the end. Great oratory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRuIhtC9Mo&app=desktop
I challenge anyone to watch it without feeling at least a tiny yearning for LEAVE.
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I met Dan Hannan in Manchester a few weeks ago. Found him to be extremely charming and well mannered. Knows his stuff as well. He's been working his socks off in this campaign and I see he was in Northern Ireland over the weekend. I hope he gets recognised for his efforts.hunchman said:
6 minutes of pure brilliance encapsulating my view exactly - only Ronnie O'Sullivan's 147 in 5 minutes and 20 seconds back in 1997 compares with such a contribution over a similar time period!Casino_Royale said:
I saw that live. Dan brought the house down.SeanT said:This is absolutely fantastic from Daniel Hannan. Watch it to the end. Great oratory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRuIhtC9Mo&app=desktop
I challenge anyone to watch it without feeling at least a tiny yearning for LEAVE.
If you look very closely you can see Clegg and Kendall, smiling, as they (ever so slightly jealously) admire the sheer skill and power of his oratory.
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Young voter on Channel 4 just:
'I know Cameron is Prime Minister......but is he a politician?'!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did he just land in from planet Mars!!!!!0 -
Twitter's advertising is rubbish. I get all kinds of irrelevant junk, even though I follow a small number of people around a narrow range of topics. Twitter also want too much control of their services, and so they have made it almost impossible for third parties to create apps that use Twitter as an even a moderately successful app will quickly run into a user limit.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. T, it is weird. There's a massive userbase, it's where a lot of news breaks, and yet, as you say, they've not found a way to turn a profit.
Twitter could have been a really big deal, now it is relegated to being an up-to-date news feed and they haven't yet figured out how to make money from that.0 -
Facebook has it all covered...they own instagram which is big with the youth, old people / family Facebook (and now more video views than YouTube), messaging WhatsApp, VR ocluous .Luckyguy1983 said:No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.
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Yes. Very much like the Guardian, Twitter have cultivated a user base full of whiny babies who want everything for free, then they alienated the last few consumers who they could have monetised by introducing their Orwellian censorship council full of crazy feminists and leftists.SeanT said:
It is remarkable that Twitter have been unable to monetise, in any way, the most politically powerful and important social medium.MaxPB said:
He'll be just in time for the lights to turn off when they run out of money.SeanT said:
It's not though is it? If you're into politics or news, then Twitter is where it's at. Everyone is on it.Charles said:
Don't. It's an old medium. Snapchat's where it's at...Casino_Royale said:Off topic, I'm thinking (only thinking, mind) of starting to twat.
What do I need to know?
If you're 17 and want to gossip or sext then, yes, Snapchat.
Facebook is for cat gifs and mawkish family crap.
Tumblr for porn
Pinterest - ??
Whenever something big happens, people go to Twitter for reactions, debate, public opinion (from the Arab Spring to the new Top Gear).
Yet they make a loss year after year.0 -
Sajid and Mandy - clearly Sajid has given up on his Leadership aspirations.
"Other planned combinations include Sajid Javid, the business secretary, and one of his predecessors, Lord Mandelson. "
"Members of both sides say there are unlikely to be many new policy announcements."
"In total there are nine television setpieces remaining"
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/02ad5538-2c04-11e6-a18d-a96ab29e3c95.html?ftcamp=published_links/rss/world_uk_politics/feed//product#axzz4ApA92dLO0 -
How would it do without the vast sums of public money lavished on 'the countries' infrastructure and huge public sector wages of the civil service?Jobabob said:@Alanbrooke
Sheer fantasy. Just as all attempts to artificially dilute economic power by creating manmade capitals have failed (see Brasilia), making a new UK capital with an independent London would also fail. London would still dominate as a internationalist, open, free market, europhile city, pulling in talent like a magnet.0 -
Thanks. Will do some research!Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Royale, follow MorrisF1 (me, though I should stress it's more writing, blogging and history than politics).
You'll get more likes and retweets if you respond quickly (I got, relatively, tons when commenting swiftly on Verstappen's promotion). Also, you may like to use lists. I follow quite a lot of people, but it's the lists I check (you can make your own and add or remove anyone, whether you follow them or not, so I've got one for writers, one for F1, and subscribe to a third which someone else made).0 -
What about Periscope?0
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Is Hansard one?....
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People who look for those things are probably in the above-1-sigma part of the population distribution. Facebook is used by the lowest common denominator that seriously believes This One Weird Trick Could Make You Lose Weight.SeanT said:
It is remarkable that Twitter have been unable to monetise, in any way, the most politically powerful and important social medium.MaxPB said:
He'll be just in time for the lights to turn off when they run out of money.SeanT said:
It's not though is it? If you're into politics or news, then Twitter is where it's at. Everyone is on it.Charles said:
Don't. It's an old medium. Snapchat's where it's at...Casino_Royale said:Off topic, I'm thinking (only thinking, mind) of starting to twat.
What do I need to know?
If you're 17 and want to gossip or sext then, yes, Snapchat.
Facebook is for cat gifs and mawkish family crap.
Tumblr for porn
Pinterest - ??
Whenever something big happens, people go to Twitter for reactions, debate, public opinion (from the Arab Spring to the new Top Gear).
Yet they make a loss year after year.0 -
They are looking shambolic. Leave have a top table of five. Remain is just Cameron. The look isn't a good or reassuring one. It's really time somebody got a grip of the campaign.TCPoliticalBetting said:Iain Martin @iainmartin1
The Remain campaign seems to be melting. Plot lost. The astonishment and growing fury that perhaps half the country disagrees is revealing.
I can imagine how angry he is having pulled his Party single handedly to victory and how pissed off he must feel at the betrayal
But the best Generals know how to delegate0 -
I made it onto Wings "people you should block" listMorris_Dancer said:Also, you may like to use lists. I follow quite a lot of people, but it's the lists I check (you can make your own and add or remove anyone, whether you follow them or not, so I've got one for writers, one for F1, and subscribe to a third which someone else made).
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Probably true. I have no idea how he is rated by the working class voters.Jonathan said:
Hannan doesn't appeal to everyone that Leave needs to vote for them.TCPoliticalBetting said:
My better half listened to Gove the other day from Sky without the video picture and said he sounded chuchillian at the end. Hannan is even better and LEAVE are blessed with better orators.Mortimer said:
Tremendous. I really hope he stands for parliament soon. He now sits alongside Gove in my post-Brexit dream cabinet.SeanT said:This is absolutely fantastic from Daniel Hannan. Watch it to the end. Great oratory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRuIhtC9Mo&app=desktop
I challenge anyone to watch it without feeling at least a tiny yearning for LEAVE.
He will get a lot of love from the right in much the same way as Corbyn receives love from his tribe on the left.
Watched his speech, I was personally put off, but can understand why you and Sean like him.
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Skype us going down the tubes...Facebook own instagram & whattapps & they are eating into Youtube for video. They also have Facebook live being rolled out & targeting yet another market with messenger. The market isn't fragmenting as such, it is brands, of which Facebook own all the best ones.SeanT said:
Or whatsapp or Telegram or YouTube or Skype or...Luckyguy1983 said:No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_virtual_communities_with_more_than_100_million_active_users
The market is fragmenting0 -
Roger it is remarkable at how bad REMAIN have become. I wonder if it is that problem where the client thinks that they know the best way of promoting their product and start writing the copy, directing the videos and getting in front of the camera?Roger said:
They are looking shambolic. Leave have a top table of five. Remain is just Cameron. The look isn't a good or reassuring one. It's really time somebody got a grip of the campaign.TCPoliticalBetting said:Iain Martin @iainmartin1
The Remain campaign seems to be melting. Plot lost. The astonishment and growing fury that perhaps half the country disagrees is revealing.
I can imagine how angry he is having pulled his Party single handedly to victory and how pissed off he must feel at the betrayal
But the best Generals know how to delegate
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Mr. Urquhart, worth noting there are lots of rival firms into VR. Be interesting to see if co-existence occurs (as per gaming consoles) or there can be only one (as per betamax vs VHS and HD-DVD vs blu-ray).0
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Owned by Microsoft who have rebranded their entire Lync environment SkypeFrancisUrquhart said:Skype us going down the tubes...
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Barrier to entry for a social network is pretty low. The big reason your publisher targets Facebook is the user demographics BUT (and here is where Facebook is great / twitter crap) their knowledge and targeting of users.SeanT said:
Facebook has been very clever in its acquisitions. Personally I find the main site quite off-putting. You can't have a decent argument without lefties crying. Twitterers are much more robust.FrancisUrquhart said:
Facebook has it all covered...they own instagram which is big with the youth, old people Facebook, messaging WhatsApp, VR ocluous .Luckyguy1983 said:No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.
I just use FB for kids and kittens now, for that it is good. A massive shared family photo album.
FB is also very good for advertising. My publishers target it ruthlessly.
This is where Twitter fails.
But who knows what will survive. Someone could come along tomorrow with a killer app that blows them all out of the water. A treacherous business.0 -
That deserves enrollment in some PB Tory order, surelyScott_P said:
I made it onto Wings "people you should block" listMorris_Dancer said:Also, you may like to use lists. I follow quite a lot of people, but it's the lists I check (you can make your own and add or remove anyone, whether you follow them or not, so I've got one for writers, one for F1, and subscribe to a third which someone else made).
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Presumably (honest) employers would face the same responsibility to ensure they don't employ any illegal migrants as they already do. Just an EU passport will no longer automatically make you legal.David_Evershed said:currystar said:One of the many things that confuses me with what will happen if we leave is the Ireland situation. Apparently there will remain free movment of people between ROI and NI. What is to stop EU citizens travelling to ROI then catching the train to NI and then the ferry to Liverpool? They will not need a passport to enter the UK.
Ireland would need to check peoples passports at their border with the same diligence that we do. I believe that is also the current arrangement.
EU citizens would have the right to come to the UK to visit but not to work here without meeting the rules in the new points system.0 -
You mean like losing his job?LadyBucket said:
I met Dan Hannan in Manchester a few weeks ago. Found him to be extremely charming and well mannered. Knows his stuff as well. He's been working his socks off in this campaign and I see he was in Northern Ireland over the weekend. I hope he gets recognised for his efforts.hunchman said:
6 minutes of pure brilliance encapsulating my view exactly - only Ronnie O'Sullivan's 147 in 5 minutes and 20 seconds back in 1997 compares with such a contribution over a similar time period!Casino_Royale said:
I saw that live. Dan brought the house down.SeanT said:This is absolutely fantastic from Daniel Hannan. Watch it to the end. Great oratory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRuIhtC9Mo&app=desktop
I challenge anyone to watch it without feeling at least a tiny yearning for LEAVE.
If you look very closely you can see Clegg and Kendall, smiling, as they (ever so slightly jealously) admire the sheer skill and power of his oratory.0 -
Mr. P, I got blocked by someone for reasons beyond me. We'd had some (completely civil) disagreements and I'd replied to a few of his tweets, then I was blocked.
One can only imagine he was jealous of my wiffle stick.
Edited extra bit: np, Mr. Royale.0 -
I love Instagram. It's by a massive margin the friendliest place in social media.Luckyguy1983 said:No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.
Facebook is a bit tedious these days and I never go anywhere near Twitter.
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The only person I've been blocked by on twitter is my niece. Presumably she didn't want her social life being seen by those with links to her parents.
Of course, you don't know who mutes you.0 -
And I guess nobody here using Slack yet...0
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We must hopeRichard_Tyndall said:
It is worth bearing in mind that many European countries had visa free travel arrangements with the UK long before we joined the EEC. France and the UK signed a treaty on visa free travel in 1946. The fact that we didn't join Schengen means that for the overwhelming number of travellers in Europe absolutely nothing will change if we leave the EU.HYUFD said:
Recent polls have had Wales and provoncial England voting Leave, Scotland and NI and London RemainPulpstar said:The UK could well vote "Remain", England "Leave" and London "Remain".
It'll be like a Brexit Russian doll.0 -
I have little hope for VR success...I have had used HTC vive etc with the best pc available in perfect environment & it still really isn't all that, let alone somebody with £1000 pc in their tiny bedroom.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Urquhart, worth noting there are lots of rival firms into VR. Be interesting to see if co-existence occurs (as per gaming consoles) or there can be only one (as per betamax vs VHS and HD-DVD vs blu-ray).
Also tried Hololens & is better, but has big problems that Microsoft dont like to shout out.
There is magic leap that is very secretive & huge investment, but nowhere near ready.
It is 3d tv all over again. MR / AR is the future, not VR, but years off yet.0 -
True. I liked his speech in that clip, but don't know much about his wider political beliefs.Jonathan said:
Hannan doesn't appeal to everyone that Leave needs to vote for them.TCPoliticalBetting said:
My better half listened to Gove the other day from Sky without the video picture and said he sounded chuchillian at the end. Hannan is even better and LEAVE are blessed with better orators.Mortimer said:
Tremendous. I really hope he stands for parliament soon. He now sits alongside Gove in my post-Brexit dream cabinet.SeanT said:This is absolutely fantastic from Daniel Hannan. Watch it to the end. Great oratory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRuIhtC9Mo&app=desktop
I challenge anyone to watch it without feeling at least a tiny yearning for LEAVE.
He will get a lot of love from the right in much the same way as Corbyn receives love from his tribe on the left.
Watched his speech, I was personally put off, but can understand why you and Sean like him.0 -
To cheer up everyone who needs a Brexit Break - well no, actually, it's jolly depressing, but worth a read...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/the-mystery-of-why-the-best-african-american-figure-skater-in-history-went-bankrupt-and-lives-in-a-trailer/2016/02/25/a191972c-ce99-11e5-abc9-ea152f0b9561_story.html
What the URL doesn't mention is she was a Stanford grad and surgeon, to boot.
These days, she thinks that hoarding gold will insulate us from a looming financial meltdown, and recruits people to sell bits of gold bullion called “Karatbars.”0 -
Was this idea from Mandelson?
"David Cameron and other leading pro-European Union politicians were not able to travel away in matching Mini cars from a campaign event because Green party leader Natalie Bennett said she wanted to travel by bicycle. The Remain campaign had lined up the Minis for Mr Cameron and Ms Bennett as well as Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron, former Labour deputy leader Harriet Harman."
"The idea was that the four politicians would be driven away by volunteers in Minis that matched their party colour – blue for the Tories, red for Labour, yellow for the LibDems and green for the Green party."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/06/greens-natalie-bennetts-decision-to-campaign-by-bicycle-scuppers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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That is one of the key factors in recent years that makes a targeted campaign so difficult. And we all consume different media these days. I simply could not imagine anybody consuming the same (and volume of) news media as me......and I've never met anyone that comes anywhere near me! My passion has been to go wherever I need to go to get to the bottom of the things and to the truth.....its led me to some pretty dark areas to say the least but I would never have found out otherwise about things such as 788 790 Finchley Road.SeanT said:
Or whatsapp or Telegram or YouTube or Skype or...Luckyguy1983 said:No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_virtual_communities_with_more_than_100_million_active_users
The market is fragmenting
And political campaigns are still living in the old world.... on which there is such an age divide. I've noticed it with my parents - they watch the mainstream media and read the Telegraph, I'm not aware of them getting their news from any other source. When I tell them the things I've found out they look aghast at me as though I'm from a different planet, and even when you show them how mainstream media output has become so distorted they still continue to consume the mainstream out of a habit of 60 years plus. But the demographic changes over time and the immediate post war generation beginning to pass away will inevitably remorselessly drive the trend towards the new media.0 -
Shall we create a new social network? This could be our Zuckerberg moment!0
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Kinnock Junior is just an ambitious little toad. Probably trying to go one better than his father no doubt and protecting the family EU pensions as well.hunchman said:@Mortimer - excellent article, well done!
Well what another extraordinary day. And I think its been the standout day of the campaign so far. Are Kinnock jnr and Harriet Harman secret leavers?!!
What an extraordinary thing for Harriet to do criticising Cameron today. Loved Cameron's face when she turned to him! And then Corbyn not being there alongside Natalie Bennett, Farron and Cameron made Harriet's presence look incredibly stupid anyway. It was noticeable how the cameraman had been told to focus in on all the red including the red mini at the remain set piece as well. But this just serves to highlight the problem of just how facile and childish the remain campaign has become.
And then Kinnock jnr - well talk about proving the anti-democratic nature of the EU for your opponents - was he trying to outdo his father and the Sheffield rally moment 24 years ago?!
And then the look of delight on the faces of Boris and Gove et al at the soap factory leave event today - could the contrast in the fortune of the campaigns on view have been any clearer today?
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Now there's an interesting question. If MEPs lose their jobs through a country leaving the EU, will the EU pay them redundancy or a pension or whatever?peter_from_putney said:
You mean like losing his job?LadyBucket said:
I met Dan Hannan in Manchester a few weeks ago. Found him to be extremely charming and well mannered. Knows his stuff as well. He's been working his socks off in this campaign and I see he was in Northern Ireland over the weekend. I hope he gets recognised for his efforts.hunchman said:
6 minutes of pure brilliance encapsulating my view exactly - only Ronnie O'Sullivan's 147 in 5 minutes and 20 seconds back in 1997 compares with such a contribution over a similar time period!Casino_Royale said:
I saw that live. Dan brought the house down.SeanT said:This is absolutely fantastic from Daniel Hannan. Watch it to the end. Great oratory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRuIhtC9Mo&app=desktop
I challenge anyone to watch it without feeling at least a tiny yearning for LEAVE.
If you look very closely you can see Clegg and Kendall, smiling, as they (ever so slightly jealously) admire the sheer skill and power of his oratory.
I gather that EU pensions are dependent on staying loyal to the EU (is that right?) but Remain MEPs will demonstrably have done so.0 -
Please no more. Most of them are virtually useless already. The last thing we need is any more of them.0
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You get great engagement on Instagram. I like it a lot.Steven_Whaley said:
I love Instagram. It's by a massive margin the friendliest place in social media.Luckyguy1983 said:No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.
Facebook is a bit tedious these days and I never go anywhere near Twitter. 0 -
Andrew Neil goes straight in on Corbyn's sincerity.0
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Am reminded of that Father Ted priest phone line....Luckyguy1983 said:Shall we create a new social network? This could be our Zuckerberg moment!
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You're no fun.Jobabob said:Please no more. Most of them are virtually useless already. The last thing we need is any more of them.
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Funny how Channel 4 were trying to pass off Eddie Izzard as young and appealing to the youth vote - he is 54 now and been on the block since 1982!0
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I wasn't saying YouTube in trouble. However, They have messed up their social network side eg YouTube gaming is a disaster. Twitch is super successful & talking to streamers on there they say YouTube just didn't get the social aspect that has made twitch big.SeanT said:
I can see that Skype might be in trouble but Youtube? Nah. They're owned by Google, they are hugely successful, and they are expandingFrancisUrquhart said:
Skype us going down the tubes...Facebook own instagram & whattapps & they are eating into Youtube for video. They also have Facebook live being rolled out & targeting yet another market with messenger. The market isn't fragmenting as such, it is brands, of which Facebook own all the best ones.SeanT said:
Or whatsapp or Telegram or YouTube or Skype or...Luckyguy1983 said:No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_virtual_communities_with_more_than_100_million_active_users
The market is fragmenting
"In January 2016, YouTube expanded its headquarters in San Bruno by purchasing an office park for $215 million. The complex has 554,000 square feet of space and can house up to 2,800 employees."
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Mr. 1983, Tipstr? [I gather deliberately misspelling things is in fashion].0
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I've always liked Dan Hannan, no messing about, tells it like it is with a wonderful sense of humour, and represents my strand of political thought to the letter. He'd be a great asset as an MP at Westminster.LadyBucket said:
I met Dan Hannan in Manchester a few weeks ago. Found him to be extremely charming and well mannered. Knows his stuff as well. He's been working his socks off in this campaign and I see he was in Northern Ireland over the weekend. I hope he gets recognised for his efforts.hunchman said:
6 minutes of pure brilliance encapsulating my view exactly - only Ronnie O'Sullivan's 147 in 5 minutes and 20 seconds back in 1997 compares with such a contribution over a similar time period!Casino_Royale said:
I saw that live. Dan brought the house down.SeanT said:This is absolutely fantastic from Daniel Hannan. Watch it to the end. Great oratory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRuIhtC9Mo&app=desktop
I challenge anyone to watch it without feeling at least a tiny yearning for LEAVE.
If you look very closely you can see Clegg and Kendall, smiling, as they (ever so slightly jealously) admire the sheer skill and power of his oratory.0 -
I think Twitch is owned by YouTube.FrancisUrquhart said:
I wasn't saying YouTube in trouble. However, They have messed up their social network side eg YouTube gaming is a disaster. Twitch is super successful & talking to streamers on there they say YouTube just didn't get the social aspect that has made twitch big.SeanT said:
I can see that Skype might be in trouble but Youtube? Nah. They're owned by Google, they are hugely successful, and they are expandingFrancisUrquhart said:
Skype us going down the tubes...Facebook own instagram & whattapps & they are eating into Youtube for video. They also have Facebook live being rolled out & targeting yet another market with messenger. The market isn't fragmenting as such, it is brands, of which Facebook own all the best ones.SeanT said:
Or whatsapp or Telegram or YouTube or Skype or...Luckyguy1983 said:No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_virtual_communities_with_more_than_100_million_active_users
The market is fragmenting
"In January 2016, YouTube expanded its headquarters in San Bruno by purchasing an office park for $215 million. The complex has 554,000 square feet of space and can house up to 2,800 employees."
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No. Amazon.RobD said:
I think Twitch is owned by YouTube.FrancisUrquhart said:
I wasn't saying YouTube in trouble. However, They have messed up their social network side eg YouTube gaming is a disaster. Twitch is super successful & talking to streamers on there they say YouTube just didn't get the social aspect that has made twitch big.SeanT said:
I can see that Skype might be in trouble but Youtube? Nah. They're owned by Google, they are hugely successful, and they are expandingFrancisUrquhart said:
Skype us going down the tubes...Facebook own instagram & whattapps & they are eating into Youtube for video. They also have Facebook live being rolled out & targeting yet another market with messenger. The market isn't fragmenting as such, it is brands, of which Facebook own all the best ones.SeanT said:
Or whatsapp or Telegram or YouTube or Skype or...Luckyguy1983 said:No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_virtual_communities_with_more_than_100_million_active_users
The market is fragmenting
"In January 2016, YouTube expanded its headquarters in San Bruno by purchasing an office park for $215 million. The complex has 554,000 square feet of space and can house up to 2,800 employees."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube
Google have tried to copy the idea of live streaming / community / social network with YouTube & it is a massive flop.0 -
Hilary Benn struggling. He falls back to script of evil tory bastards ignoring his mates Dave and George.0
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Mr. D, wasn't it... Amazon who bought it?
I think someone bought Twitch, not sure it was Youtube.0 -
Wow, okay. Not sure why I thought that then!FrancisUrquhart said:
No. Amazon.RobD said:
I think Twitch is owned by YouTube.FrancisUrquhart said:
I wasn't saying YouTube in trouble. However, They have messed up their social network side eg YouTube gaming is a disaster. Twitch is super successful & talking to streamers on there they say YouTube just didn't get the social aspect that has made twitch big.SeanT said:
I can see that Skype might be in trouble but Youtube? Nah. They're owned by Google, they are hugely successful, and they are expandingFrancisUrquhart said:
Skype us going down the tubes...Facebook own instagram & whattapps & they are eating into Youtube for video. They also have Facebook live being rolled out & targeting yet another market with messenger. The market isn't fragmenting as such, it is brands, of which Facebook own all the best ones.SeanT said:
Or whatsapp or Telegram or YouTube or Skype or...Luckyguy1983 said:No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_virtual_communities_with_more_than_100_million_active_users
The market is fragmenting
"In January 2016, YouTube expanded its headquarters in San Bruno by purchasing an office park for $215 million. The complex has 554,000 square feet of space and can house up to 2,800 employees."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube
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Benn waffling now.0
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Brilliant idea!Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 1983, Tipstr? [I gather deliberately misspelling things is in fashion].
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He said he became an MEP as that was where the power is, if Leave win he could then switch to Westminster and be a potential future leaderhunchman said:
I've always liked Dan Hannan, no messing about, tells it like it is with a wonderful sense of humour, and represents my strand of political thought to the letter. He'd be a great asset as an MP at Westminster.LadyBucket said:
I met Dan Hannan in Manchester a few weeks ago. Found him to be extremely charming and well mannered. Knows his stuff as well. He's been working his socks off in this campaign and I see he was in Northern Ireland over the weekend. I hope he gets recognised for his efforts.hunchman said:
6 minutes of pure brilliance encapsulating my view exactly - only Ronnie O'Sullivan's 147 in 5 minutes and 20 seconds back in 1997 compares with such a contribution over a similar time period!Casino_Royale said:
I saw that live. Dan brought the house down.SeanT said:This is absolutely fantastic from Daniel Hannan. Watch it to the end. Great oratory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRuIhtC9Mo&app=desktop
I challenge anyone to watch it without feeling at least a tiny yearning for LEAVE.
If you look very closely you can see Clegg and Kendall, smiling, as they (ever so slightly jealously) admire the sheer skill and power of his oratory.0 -
Amazon.RobD said:
I think Twitch is owned by YouTube.FrancisUrquhart said:
I wasn't saying YouTube in trouble. However, They have messed up their social network side eg YouTube gaming is a disaster. Twitch is super successful & talking to streamers on there they say YouTube just didn't get the social aspect that has made twitch big.SeanT said:
I can see that Skype might be in trouble but Youtube? Nah. They're owned by Google, they are hugely successful, and they are expandingFrancisUrquhart said:
Skype us going down the tubes...Facebook own instagram & whattapps & they are eating into Youtube for video. They also have Facebook live being rolled out & targeting yet another market with messenger. The market isn't fragmenting as such, it is brands, of which Facebook own all the best ones.SeanT said:
Or whatsapp or Telegram or YouTube or Skype or...Luckyguy1983 said:No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_virtual_communities_with_more_than_100_million_active_users
The market is fragmenting
"In January 2016, YouTube expanded its headquarters in San Bruno by purchasing an office park for $215 million. The complex has 554,000 square feet of space and can house up to 2,800 employees."
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"The trouble is we have a Conservative Government" (Hilary Benn)
That's the Labour Remain position.0 -
Mr. D, it can be tricky following which of the net titans own which bits.0
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I've temporarily adjusted my settings on Facebook to see how much guff they're putting about on the EU referendum, as well as seeing which of my circle are actively supporting the remain campaign.chestnut said:
Especially when people are keen to use Ad Blockers.hunchman said:That is one of the key factors in recent years that makes a targeted campaign so difficult.
They'll promptly go back to the pre-referendum settings on the 24th June!0 -
I am not sure the yuff even know he used to be a famous comic.SeanT said:
Also, he's a 54 year old man who wears a dress, red lipstick and wants to have breasts.hunchman said:Funny how Channel 4 were trying to pass off Eddie Izzard as young and appealing to the youth vote - he is 54 now and been on the block since 1982!
I applaud his bravery in being so open, but it is a tiny bit difficult to take him seriously when he sometimes looks like a pantomime dame
He is, or was, an absolutely brilliant comic. One of the best I have ever seen. Genius.0 -
I think I was confused by the fact Twitch people often post their content to YouTube. I thought it symbolised a deeper connection between the two!0
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Mr. 1983, an alternative would be putting together a Twitter list called Tipstr featuring chaps who know their fields reasonably well. Rapid response to events can pave the way to victory as bookies take 15-30 minutes to respond to things (as well as a recent example, in 2012 I got about 5/1 on Maldonado and Alonso to lead lap of Spain. Both were on the front row after Hamilton was disqualified from his pole position).
Edited extra bit: for those wondering, I very rarely mention tipping or bets on Twitter, pb.com is where I ruminate on such things.0 -
Benn has conceded immigration entirely.0
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I can strongly recommend the book he and Douglas Carswell wrote called 'The Plan': 12 Months to renew Britain. Very thought provoking and a lot of the ideas appeal to me greatly.AnneJGP said:
True. I liked his speech in that clip, but don't know much about his wider political beliefs.Jonathan said:
Hannan doesn't appeal to everyone that Leave needs to vote for them.TCPoliticalBetting said:
My better half listened to Gove the other day from Sky without the video picture and said he sounded chuchillian at the end. Hannan is even better and LEAVE are blessed with better orators.Mortimer said:
Tremendous. I really hope he stands for parliament soon. He now sits alongside Gove in my post-Brexit dream cabinet.SeanT said:This is absolutely fantastic from Daniel Hannan. Watch it to the end. Great oratory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZRuIhtC9Mo&app=desktop
I challenge anyone to watch it without feeling at least a tiny yearning for LEAVE.
He will get a lot of love from the right in much the same way as Corbyn receives love from his tribe on the left.
Watched his speech, I was personally put off, but can understand why you and Sean like him.0 -
A lot more people interact in some way with your posts. As compared with Twitter. It's all 'liking' as opposed to actually retweeting, so there's less actual 'benefit', but it's very instantly gratifying.SeanT said:
Explain? Sincerely?Luckyguy1983 said:
You get great engagement on Instagram. I like it a lot.Steven_Whaley said:
I love Instagram. It's by a massive margin the friendliest place in social media.Luckyguy1983 said:No-one's mentioned Instagram - back to social media college for you all.
Facebook is a bit tedious these days and I never go anywhere near Twitter.
If you've got a bit of an artistic streak and take fairly good photos on your mobile, you'd probably like Instagram and do quite well on it. Filters do the rest.0 -
Benn spouting lies.
Claimed there was no holiday pay in the UK before the EU.
It was introduced in 1938. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo6/1-2/70/enacted
Under a Conservative PM. Oops.0 -
We should run it past Nick Cohen. Not a big fan of the PB Leavers' model.Luckyguy1983 said:Shall we create a new social network? This could be our Zuckerberg moment!
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When the mini-ice age kicks in, especially around 2019/2020 and we look back on this referendum in 4 or 5 years time, that insistence by Natalie Bennett will be a suitable monument to the utter stupidity and divisions of the remain campaign! And to think that 'hug a husky' Cameron, Islington luvvie Harriet or Farron couldn't tell her directly that she is spouting complete boll*x and just for once for the sake of their campaign get together as a united front speaks volumes of them as well.TCPoliticalBetting said:Was this idea from Mandelson?
"David Cameron and other leading pro-European Union politicians were not able to travel away in matching Mini cars from a campaign event because Green party leader Natalie Bennett said she wanted to travel by bicycle. The Remain campaign had lined up the Minis for Mr Cameron and Ms Bennett as well as Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron, former Labour deputy leader Harriet Harman."
"The idea was that the four politicians would be driven away by volunteers in Minis that matched their party colour – blue for the Tories, red for Labour, yellow for the LibDems and green for the Green party."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/06/greens-natalie-bennetts-decision-to-campaign-by-bicycle-scuppers/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter0 -
I am desperate for a Remainer to slip up and claim that immigration is a price worth paying.0
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No, he said it was not statutory for all workers before the EUGravitation said:Benn spouting lies.
Claimed there was no holiday pay in the UK before the EU.0 -
Plus he never really does the panel shows that are really popular with the yuff. Where as the up and coming comics are on them all.SeanT said:
Good point. His significant comic triumphs ended a decade ago.FrancisUrquhart said:
I am not sure the yuff even know he used to be a famous comic.SeanT said:
Also, he's a 54 year old man who wears a dress, red lipstick and wants to have breasts.hunchman said:Funny how Channel 4 were trying to pass off Eddie Izzard as young and appealing to the youth vote - he is 54 now and been on the block since 1982!
I applaud his bravery in being so open, but it is a tiny bit difficult to take him seriously when he sometimes looks like a pantomime dame
He is, or was, an absolutely brilliant comic. One of the best I have ever seen. Genius.0 -
Admittedly a small sample size but I have just asked the two young ladies behind the bar at my local if they had heard of Eddie Izzard.FrancisUrquhart said:
I am not sure the yuff even know he used to be a famous comic.SeanT said:
Also, he's a 54 year old man who wears a dress, red lipstick and wants to have breasts.hunchman said:Funny how Channel 4 were trying to pass off Eddie Izzard as young and appealing to the youth vote - he is 54 now and been on the block since 1982!
I applaud his bravery in being so open, but it is a tiny bit difficult to take him seriously when he sometimes looks like a pantomime dame
He is, or was, an absolutely brilliant comic. One of the best I have ever seen. Genius.
One who is 21 has heard of him, the other who is 19 hasn't.
Make of that what you will.0 -
This Andrew Neil interview swings me toward leave. Horrific Benn interview - labour are fecked.0
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Car crash time for Benn jnr with Andrew Neil. I really wish his father was still around to witness these times - I never forget the day he died in March 2014 as it was on the same day as my nigh on 101 year old Grandma's funeral.0
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The one that had heard of him...did he know he used to be one.of the biggest comics or did he know him as the person who is part of LGBT community & bangs on about politics?Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Admittedly a small sample size but I have just asked the two young ladies behind the bar at my local if they had heard of Eddie Izzard.FrancisUrquhart said:
I am not sure the yuff even know he used to be a famous comic.SeanT said:
Also, he's a 54 year old man who wears a dress, red lipstick and wants to have breasts.hunchman said:Funny how Channel 4 were trying to pass off Eddie Izzard as young and appealing to the youth vote - he is 54 now and been on the block since 1982!
I applaud his bravery in being so open, but it is a tiny bit difficult to take him seriously when he sometimes looks like a pantomime dame
He is, or was, an absolutely brilliant comic. One of the best I have ever seen. Genius.
One who is 21 has heard of him, the other who is 19 hasn't.
Make of that what you will.0 -
Virtually said that the Labour policy was for no limit on immigration.SeanT said:Benn being murdered on immigration.
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Presumably it simply means Old Street in its entirety was served by the main post office in EC in 1917.AlastairMeeks said:If there are postcode experts on the site, I would very much appreciate an explanation why Old Street east of the tube station is EC1 while every street on its north side is in N1 and every street on its south side is in EC2.
There's no doubt a historical explanation but it has long puzzled me.0 -
Leadership bid not looking so good?SeanT said:Good god Benn is awful. A dry, snooty, mealy mouthed technocrat.
Just the worst voice for REMAIN.0 -
Bennett & Corbyn putting partisanship before country.0
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It's a nice evening, most normal people are down the pub or having a BBQ. It's just us geeks watching this.0
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Wow Neil has just destroyed Hilary Benn over nationalisation and the EU.0
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@LOS_Fisher: Van salesman told Osborne he'd same name as chancellor. Replying he was the chancellor, man was sceptical. "We had to stand there as he googled my face."0
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Are we expecting ORB tonight?0
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Benn just descending into Tory bashing.0
