Interviews with a guy called Alan Boston (who helped pick college basketball for Walters) are always fascinating listening.
Haralabos Voulgaris (nothing to do with Walters) is also super interesting guy. He is one of the top nba bettors in the world.
Interesting, thanks.. Walters is a fascinating character - the first pro gambler to have a computer, mobile phones and a big team in Vegas placing bets for him before the bookies knew what he was up to.
He certainly is. The rumours about him & his activities have been about for a long time. It will be interesting how all this pans out. These days he is amazingly well connected.
These days with dfs (daily fantasy sports), there are also sort of groups of nerds "in the lab " crunching the numbers to beat this new form of gambling.
John Oliver on Daily Fantasy Sports. Basically no-one is winning unless they're professionals at it, with large spreadsheets and researchers. https://youtu.be/Mq785nJ0FXQ
Correct...Although since that they have made a few changes to the rules. One of the biggest problems was the pros would enter 1000s of times for competitions ranging from $1000 to $1. So casuals would be up against pro for even a $1. Now they have limited the number of entries & pros basically don't play in less than $10-20 pools.
But it's like any p2p gambling the chance a casual wins even a big field online poker, even buying as low as $100 these days is absolutely tiny. The $109 rebuy on pokerstars is probably the hardest tournament on the planet.
Just catching up.. what happens if the Queens Speech is amended? Surely that throws an almighty spanner into the works?
In the past, it has brought down governments, what happens under the FTPA, Gawd knows.
Given that no other party can secure a majority, surely it would lead to a GE? Does the EU referendum act say anything regarding delays in this scenario.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Its good to see remainer tories riding to the defence of Jeremy Corbyn's Labour MPs.
I'm not, I'm riding to the defence of the elite.
it's ok Richard you're not part of it.
Certainly not!
Or at least, I think I'm not. I have just ordered a case of Léoville Barton 2015, so maybe I am. But I paid for it from my betting winnings, so maybe not. The main question is whether it's ready to drink before I pop my clogs.
LOL. Giscours is also worth a look but is an equally distant pleasure..
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Its good to see remainer tories riding to the defence of Jeremy Corbyn's Labour MPs.
I'm not, I'm riding to the defence of the elite.
it's ok Richard you're not part of it.
Certainly not!
Or at least, I think I'm not. I have just ordered a case of Léoville Barton 2015, so maybe I am. But I paid for it from my betting winnings, so maybe not. The main question is whether it's ready to drink before I pop my clogs.
Worse than that Richard. It's whether it's ready to drink before you turn into SeanT.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Its good to see remainer tories riding to the defence of Jeremy Corbyn's Labour MPs.
I'm not, I'm riding to the defence of the elite.
it's ok Richard you're not part of it.
Certainly not!
Or at least, I think I'm not. I have just ordered a case of Léoville Barton 2015, so maybe I am. But I paid for it from my betting winnings, so maybe not. The main question is whether it's ready to drink before I pop my clogs.
Worse than that Richard. It's whether it's ready to drink before you turn into SeanT.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Its good to see remainer tories riding to the defence of Jeremy Corbyn's Labour MPs.
I'm not, I'm riding to the defence of the elite.
it's ok Richard you're not part of it.
Certainly not!
there once was a rough scouser navvy whose bets were judicious and savvy with his mountain of dosh he began to talk posh and called himself Doctor Nabavi :-)
When I become Directly Elected Dictator, I'm appointing you my Poet Laureate
Isn't that Directly Elected Alternate Dictator - to Ms Cyclefree's Dictatrix?
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Its good to see remainer tories riding to the defence of Jeremy Corbyn's Labour MPs.
I'm not, I'm riding to the defence of the elite.
it's ok Richard you're not part of it.
Certainly not!
Or at least, I think I'm not. I have just ordered a case of Léoville Barton 2015, so maybe I am. But I paid for it from my betting winnings, so maybe not. The main question is whether it's ready to drink before I pop my clogs.
Worse than that Richard. It's whether it's ready to drink before you turn into SeanT.
Interviews with a guy called Alan Boston (who helped pick college basketball for Walters) are always fascinating listening.
Haralabos Voulgaris (nothing to do with Walters) is also super interesting guy. He is one of the top nba bettors in the world.
Interesting, thanks.. Walters is a fascinating character - the first pro gambler to have a computer, mobile phones and a big team in Vegas placing bets for him before the bookies knew what he was up to.
He certainly is. The rumours about him & his activities have been about for a long time. It will be interesting how all this pans out. These days he is amazingly well connected.
These days with dfs (daily fantasy sports), there are also sort of groups of nerds "in the lab " crunching the numbers to beat this new form of gambling.
John Oliver on Daily Fantasy Sports. Basically no-one is winning unless they're professionals at it, with large spreadsheets and researchers.
The formula for winning is pretty simple - enter hundreds of high variance teams at a time, it's basically offering up hundreds of value betting opportunities every day - much like the online poker boom of the 00s.
Interviews with a guy called Alan Boston (who helped pick college basketball for Walters) are always fascinating listening.
Haralabos Voulgaris (nothing to do with Walters) is also super interesting guy. He is one of the top nba bettors in the world.
Interesting, thanks.. Walters is a fascinating character - the first pro gambler to have a computer, mobile phones and a big team in Vegas placing bets for him before the bookies knew what he was up to.
He certainly is. The rumours about him & his activities have been about for a long time. It will be interesting how all this pans out. These days he is amazingly well connected.
These days with dfs (daily fantasy sports), there are also sort of groups of nerds "in the lab " crunching the numbers to beat this new form of gambling.
John Oliver on Daily Fantasy Sports. Basically no-one is winning unless they're professionals at it, with large spreadsheets and researchers.
The formula for winning is pretty simple - enter hundreds of high variance teams at a time, it's basically offering up hundreds of value betting opportunities every day - much like the online poker boom of the 00s.
Eventually the pool of suckers will run dry.
To succeed at dfs it's a little bit more complex than that. Most of the pros win at the low stakes against the droolers to enable them to compete in the high stakes pools for a chance to make good money. However the level of sophistication is such that it already very difficult to overcome rake & competition to parlay this into big bucks...the evolution cycle is proceeding more quickly than poker.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
To call Pat Glass elite is to cause epistemological problems of sufficient magnitude as to lay upon the logical and semantic resources of the English language a heavier burden than they can reasonably be expected to bear.
When is it going to stop raining at Headingly?
How much have you laid the draw for ?
£60*, my standard cricket bet, changed from £50 in honour of the Convicts' meek capitulation for that score in the Ashes test last year.
*actually I forgot about there being a Test in May and am out of cash, so virtual betting on the spreadsheet for this Test.
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Junior minister
Skills and Science: Julie James Lifelong learning and Welsh language: Alun Davies Social Services and Public Health: Rebecca Evans
Health, well being and sport: Vaughan Gething Finance and Local Government: Mark Drakeford Education: Kristy Williams Environment and Rural Affairs: Lesley Griffiths Communities and Children: Carl Sergeant
Leader of the House and Chief Whip: Jane Hutt
Junior minister
Skills and Science: Julie James Lifelong learning and Welsh language: Alun Davies Social Services and Public Health: Rebecca Evans
Given recent posting, I started trying to read it as a limerick. Then I realized it wasn't, when I couldn't get it to scan ...
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
To call Pat Glass elite is to cause epistemological problems of sufficient magnitude as to lay upon the logical and semantic resources of the English language a heavier burden than they can reasonably be expected to bear.
When is it going to stop raining at Headingly?
How much have you laid the draw for ?
£60*, my standard cricket bet, changed from £50 in honour of the Convicts' meek capitulation for that score in the Ashes test last year.
*actually I forgot about there being a Test in May and am out of cash, so virtual betting on the spreadsheet for this Test.
Any thoughts on England's first inning total. I'm thinking around 225.
Health, well being and sport: Vaughan Gething Finance and Local Government: Mark Drakeford Education: Kristy Williams Environment and Rural Affairs: Lesley Griffiths Communities and Children: Carl Sergeant
Leader of the House and Chief Whip: Jane Hutt
Junior minister
Skills and Science: Julie James Lifelong learning and Welsh language: Alun Davies Social Services and Public Health: Rebecca Evans
Given recent posting, I started trying to read it as a limerick. Then I realized it wasn't, when I couldn't get it to scan ...
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
I would like to see his reaction to.somebody telling him that ;-)
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
I would like to see his reaction to.somebody telling him that ;-)
I think attitude to money is the most defining feature, though I am not keen even on that in principle. The working class live day to day; the middle class always want more and the upper class don't talk about it.
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
When I was young there wasn't an underclass, so we've all been promoted by default.
Class is a state of mind, you are what you want to be. Salad cream and mayonnaise play an bigger role than they're given credit for.
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
I would like to see his reaction to.somebody telling him that ;-)
I'd see it more as a cultural self-identification and worldview rather than an income bracket. That said, I don't thinking anyone who was born with a silver spoon in their mouth could ever become 'working class', but I have no problem if Skinner does. His credibility in doing so would be entirely related to his ability to understand and empathize at a visceral level with the WC's problems and concerns.
Angela Rippon presents 75: Not Out. As the UK prepares to go to the polls over membership of the EU, BBC Parliament looks back to 5 June 1975 when the British public was asked to vote on being part of the European Economic Community (EEC) in the country’s first ever nationwide referendum.
Legendary BBC newsreader Angela Rippon returns to the story she covered as a young journalist, presenting an evening of programmes from the BBC archives and sharing her memories of the political turmoil of a nation - and a government - divided.
The circumstances sound familiar: A Prime Minister promises to renegotiate the country's terms of European membership and then takes the choice to the people. He makes the unprecedented decision to allow members of his cabinet to campaign to leave, despite his government urging the public to vote yes. But the Prime Minster in question was Harold Wilson, and the year was 1975.
Viewers will be treated to key moments in the 1975 campaign including the tense Panorama head-to-head between Tony Benn and Roy Jenkins and the riotous Oxford Union debate between Barbara Castle, Ted Heath, Jeremy Thorpe and Peter Shore. Newly-crowned Conservative leader Margaret Thatcher pops up in her striking European flag jumper and to give her support to the ‘In’ campaign on Newsday. The night ends with a young David Dimbleby presenting his first national results programme, when 67 percent of British voters said ‘Yes’ to the UK's membership of the European Economic Community (EEC).
Join BBC Parliament on 5 June for 75: Not Out, a trip down memory lane, when no studio was too beige and no collar too large.
75: Not Out Schedule 19:05 The National Referendum Campaign ‘Out Into The World’ party political broadcast
19:15 Part I: Debate from the Oxford Union featuring Peter Shore & Jeremy Thorpe
20:05 ‘Britain In Europe’ party political broadcast with Jim Callaghan, Shirley Williams, David Steel, Willie Whitelaw and Roy Jenkins
20:15 The Rock and Roll Years 1975
20:45 Newsday: Angela Rippon reads the news, Michael Charlton interviews Conservative leader Margaret Thatcher
21:00 Panorama: David Dimbleby presents a head to head debate between Tony Benn and Roy Jenkins
21:50 Nationwide: Bernard Falk talks to ex-pat Brits living in Brussels
22:00 Part II: Debate from the Oxford Union featuring Barbara Castle and Ted Heath
23:00 News: Pro-marketeers celebrate victory and Tony Benn is graceful in defeat
23:05 Referendum results programme presented by David Dimbleby with David Butler
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
To call Pat Glass elite is to cause epistemological problems of sufficient magnitude as to lay upon the logical and semantic resources of the English language a heavier burden than they can reasonably be expected to bear.
When is it going to stop raining at Headingly?
How much have you laid the draw for ?
£60*, my standard cricket bet, changed from £50 in honour of the Convicts' meek capitulation for that score in the Ashes test last year.
*actually I forgot about there being a Test in May and am out of cash, so virtual betting on the spreadsheet for this Test.
Any thoughts on England's first inning total. I'm thinking around 225.
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
When I was young there wasn't an underclass, so we've all been promoted by default.
Class is a state of mind, you are what you want to be. Salad cream and mayonnaise play an bigger role than they're given credit for.
I like salad cream with crisps and mayonnaise with chips.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
To call Pat Glass elite is to cause epistemological problems of sufficient magnitude as to lay upon the logical and semantic resources of the English language a heavier burden than they can reasonably be expected to bear.
When is it going to stop raining at Headingly?
How much have you laid the draw for ?
£60*, my standard cricket bet, changed from £50 in honour of the Convicts' meek capitulation for that score in the Ashes test last year.
*actually I forgot about there being a Test in May and am out of cash, so virtual betting on the spreadsheet for this Test.
Any thoughts on England's first inning total. I'm thinking around 225.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
To call Pat Glass elite is to cause epistemological problems of sufficient magnitude as to lay upon the logical and semantic resources of the English language a heavier burden than they can reasonably be expected to bear.
When is it going to stop raining at Headingly?
How much have you laid the draw for ?
£60*, my standard cricket bet, changed from £50 in honour of the Convicts' meek capitulation for that score in the Ashes test last year.
*actually I forgot about there being a Test in May and am out of cash, so virtual betting on the spreadsheet for this Test.
Any thoughts on England's first inning total. I'm thinking around 225.
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
I would like to see his reaction to.somebody telling him that ;-)
For some reason a lot of middle class people like to pretend they are still working class.
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
When I was young there wasn't an underclass, so we've all been promoted by default.
Class is a state of mind, you are what you want to be. Salad cream and mayonnaise play an bigger role than they're given credit for.
I like salad cream with crisps and mayonnaise with chips.
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
I would like to see his reaction to.somebody telling him that ;-)
For some reason a lot of middle class people like to pretend they are still working class.
I think partially because the term working class is a misnomer.
I would say I am middle class but I would also say I work damned hard so the idea I'm not so-called working class is odd. It is bizarre that a person working 50 hours a week is not working class but someone working 16 hours a week (if at all) is.
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
I would like to see his reaction to.somebody telling him that ;-)
For some reason a lot of middle class people like to pretend they are still working class.
Yep, pull up outside the old man's house in the new motor. Nothing wrong in that at all, I'm all for aspiration, but I've seen a few where its almost stage managed.
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
I would like to see his reaction to.somebody telling him that ;-)
I'd see it more as a cultural self-identification and worldview rather than an income bracket. That said, I don't thinking anyone who was born with a silver spoon in their mouth could ever become 'working class', but I have no problem if Skinner does. His credibility in doing so would be entirely related to his ability to understand and empathize at a visceral level with the WC's problems and concerns.
You can do that without being working class. I think I pretty much get working class aspiration, piss taking, attitudes to everything from drink to football to violence, worries about immigration etc, because I have come from there. But I am not there anymore. Neither is Mr Skinner. And, of course, there is no single working class bloc.
Angela Rippon presents 75: Not Out. As the UK prepares to go to the polls over membership of the EU, BBC Parliament looks back to 5 June 1975 when the British public was asked to vote on being part of the European Economic Community (EEC) in the country’s first ever nationwide referendum.
Legendary BBC newsreader Angela Rippon returns to the story she covered as a young journalist, presenting an evening of programmes from the BBC archives and sharing her memories of the political turmoil of a nation - and a government - divided.
The circumstances sound familiar: A Prime Minister promises to renegotiate the country's terms of European membership and then takes the choice to the people. He makes the unprecedented decision to allow members of his cabinet to campaign to leave, despite his government urging the public to vote yes. But the Prime Minster in question was Harold Wilson, and the year was 1975.
Viewers will be treated to key moments in the 1975 campaign including the tense Panorama head-to-head between Tony Benn and Roy Jenkins and the riotous Oxford Union debate between Barbara Castle, Ted Heath, Jeremy Thorpe and Peter Shore. Newly-crowned Conservative leader Margaret Thatcher pops up in her striking European flag jumper and to give her support to the ‘In’ campaign on Newsday. The night ends with a young David Dimbleby presenting his first national results programme, when 67 percent of British voters said ‘Yes’ to the UK's membership of the European Economic Community (EEC).
Join BBC Parliament on 5 June for 75: Not Out, a trip down memory lane, when no studio was too beige and no collar too large.
75: Not Out Schedule 19:05 The National Referendum Campaign ‘Out Into The World’ party political broadcast
19:15 Part I: Debate from the Oxford Union featuring Peter Shore & Jeremy Thorpe
20:05 ‘Britain In Europe’ party political broadcast with Jim Callaghan, Shirley Williams, David Steel, Willie Whitelaw and Roy Jenkins
20:15 The Rock and Roll Years 1975
20:45 Newsday: Angela Rippon reads the news, Michael Charlton interviews Conservative leader Margaret Thatcher
21:00 Panorama: David Dimbleby presents a head to head debate between Tony Benn and Roy Jenkins
21:50 Nationwide: Bernard Falk talks to ex-pat Brits living in Brussels
22:00 Part II: Debate from the Oxford Union featuring Barbara Castle and Ted Heath
23:00 News: Pro-marketeers celebrate victory and Tony Benn is graceful in defeat
23:05 Referendum results programme presented by David Dimbleby with David Butler
Sunday 5 June
7.00pm-1.05am
BBC PARLIAMENT
I was at that Oxford Union debate, seated close to the front....wonder if the TV captured a 19 year old John O (though even in those salad days of youth, a face made for radio).
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
Working class is a propaganda term which has become comical since it is frequently applied to the work shy, benefit addicted and fraudulent.
5/17-5/18 Rasmussen 2016 General Election Trump 42% Clinton 37%
Second consecutive poll showing Trump in the lead...
Huffpost seem to be excluding some (safe) state polls, UT and NJ spring to mind. Obviously both should be safe seats unless massive landslides occur but it would help your sheet if Huffpost included them !
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Angela Rippon presents 75: Not Out. As the UK prepares to go to the polls over membership of the EU, BBC Parliament looks back to 5 June 1975 when the British public was asked to vote on being part of the European Economic Community (EEC) in the country’s first ever nationwide referendum.
Legendary BBC newsreader Angela Rippon returns to the story she covered as a young journalist, presenting an evening of programmes from the BBC archives and sharing her memories of the political turmoil of a nation - and a government - divided.
The circumstances sound familiar: A Prime Minister promises to renegotiate the country's terms of European membership and then takes the choice to the people. He makes the unprecedented decision to allow members of his cabinet to campaign to leave, despite his government urging the public to vote yes. But the Prime Minster in question was Harold Wilson, and the year was 1975.
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Join BBC Parliament on 5 June for 75: Not Out, a trip down memory lane, when no studio was too beige and no collar too large.
75: Not Out Schedule 19:05 The National Referendum Campaign ‘Out Into The World’ party political broadcast
19:15 Part I: Debate from the Oxford Union featuring Peter Shore & Jeremy Thorpe
20:05 ‘Britain In Europe’ party political broadcast with Jim Callaghan, Shirley Williams, David Steel, Willie Whitelaw and Roy Jenkins
20:15 The Rock and Roll Years 1975
20:45 Newsday: Angela Rippon reads the news, Michael Charlton interviews Conservative leader Margaret Thatcher
21:00 Panorama: David Dimbleby presents a head to head debate between Tony Benn and Roy Jenkins
21:50 Nationwide: Bernard Falk talks to ex-pat Brits living in Brussels
22:00 Part II: Debate from the Oxford Union featuring Barbara Castle and Ted Heath
23:00 News: Pro-marketeers celebrate victory and Tony Benn is graceful in defeat
23:05 Referendum results programme presented by David Dimbleby with David Butler
Sunday 5 June
7.00pm-1.05am
BBC PARLIAMENT
A major difference between the 1975 referendum and the 2016 one is that in 1975 the Prime Minister took little part in the Yes (Remain) campaign. And he had not pre-announced his departure - at that time he was widely expected to lead Labour into the next election. So the campaign was not about him and the cabinet-level protagonists were not fighting a proxy battle for the party leadership.
5/17-5/18 Rasmussen 2016 General Election Trump 42% Clinton 37%
Second consecutive poll showing Trump in the lead...
Huffpost seem to be excluding some (safe) state polls, UT and NJ spring to mind. Obviously both should be safe seats unless massive landslides occur but it would help your sheet if Huffpost included them !
As a far as I can make out, they don't put a state on the CSS feed until there are at least three polls.
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
When I was young there wasn't an underclass, so we've all been promoted by default.
Class is a state of mind, you are what you want to be. Salad cream and mayonnaise play an bigger role than they're given credit for.
I like salad cream with crisps and mayonnaise with chips.
Both quite sensible with some caveats. If you're ingesting a lot of carb, it's advisable to have a lot of fat to slow the digestive process.
Hillary is just as big a mathematical cert as the Donald is for the nomination (I suppose either one of them could die between now and the convention (Or be arrested (Trump U, E-mails) but neither scenario is particularly likely))
What has screwed Hillary is that it simply hasn't looked that way - she has not had a big somewhat unexpected against the demographics win like Trump had in IN (Her bigger than expected victories were on Super Tuesday in very AA states where she was a mile ahead anyway), and Bernie has stayed in way past the point it is even vaguely plausible he can win unlike Cruz/Kasich !
Bernie has had as many winning nights as Hillary too, which has distorted perceptions
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
Working class is a propaganda term which has become comical since it is frequently applied to the work shy, benefit addicted and fraudulent.
Just out of interest, how would posters on here describe working class? If you are born into it do you ever leave it? For what it's worth, I'd say that I was born into a working class family, but am now firmly a member of the middle class. I reckon you can move up, but that you don't move down - though your descendants can. No MP, on £65,000 plus a year, is working class in my view. Not even Dennis Skinner.
I would like to see his reaction to.somebody telling him that ;-)
I'd see it more as a cultural self-identification and worldview rather than an income bracket. That said, I don't thinking anyone who was born with a silver spoon in their mouth could ever become 'working class', but I have no problem if Skinner does. His credibility in doing so would be entirely related to his ability to understand and empathize at a visceral level with the WC's problems and concerns.
You can do that without being working class. I think I pretty much get working class aspiration, piss taking, attitudes to everything from drink to football to violence, worries about immigration etc, because I have come from there. But I am not there anymore. Neither is Mr Skinner. And, of course, there is no single working class bloc.
Indeed. My point about the silver spoon is that, unless one has genuinely experienced 'being working class' firsthand - and that probably implies being born into it - I don't think you can credibly claim to be working class. No champagne socialist could ever make the claim credibly, no matter how much they try to empathize. But if you were born into it, you can still conjure up what being in that culture means. Despite my current relative affluence, I can still recall what it meant for my mother to have to budget the food shop in a way that would be entirely artificial for the Posh Boys.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
I think the Remain ground campaign is stronger and better coordinated than the Leave campaign but it seems to be concentrated in major cities and metropolitan areas, and that won't necessarily be decisive.
5/17-5/18 Rasmussen 2016 General Election Trump 42% Clinton 37%
Second consecutive poll showing Trump in the lead...
Take any polls when one nominee is in place but another isn't with a mammoth dollop of salt.
Supporters of Trump's opponents within the party are at the point where they're begrudgingly getting behind him. Same can not be said for Hillary.
So true....Problem is, Bernie's supporters may well get behind The Donald!
Indeed. I saw a poll suggesting up to 35% of his support in WV will go to Trump. Not that that will make one iota of difference to the make up of the Electoral College.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Do you live in London?
Certainly where I live (coast of West Sussex) most elderly WWC and a lot of middle class seem pro leave. Same amongst younger tradesmen.
5/17-5/18 Rasmussen 2016 General Election Trump 42% Clinton 37%
Second consecutive poll showing Trump in the lead...
I'm worried that the Democrats will read the writing on the wall and slay the monster before the Presidential run-off.
I don't think you need to worry. The Clintons won't give up unless their dead bodies are pried from the nomination. And with 90%+ of the Dem Establishment vying desperately for floor passes to the Convention, no-one will jump ship until it is too late.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Do you live in London?
Certainly where I live (coast of West Sussex) most elderly WWC and a lot of middle class seem pro leave. Same amongst younger tradesmen.
I just wonder sometimes if pollsters reach these people enough - or at all.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Do you live in London?
Certainly where I live (coast of West Sussex) most elderly WWC and a lot of middle class seem pro leave. Same amongst younger tradesmen.
5/17-5/18 Rasmussen 2016 General Election Trump 42% Clinton 37%
Second consecutive poll showing Trump in the lead...
Take any polls when one nominee is in place but another isn't with a mammoth dollop of salt.
Supporters of Trump's opponents within the party are at the point where they're begrudgingly getting behind him. Same can not be said for Hillary.
So true....Problem is, Bernie's supporters may well get behind The Donald!
Indeed. I saw a poll suggesting up to 35% of his support in WV will go to Trump. Not that that will make one iota of difference to the make up of the Electoral College.
Surely Trump can reach out better to the PA, OH communities than "47%" Romney though. I'd be VERY surprised if Trump doesn't improve on Romney's vote in PA in particular - it is a must win state anyhow with VA solidly in the blue column this election anyhow.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Do you live in London?
Certainly where I live (coast of West Sussex) most elderly WWC and a lot of middle class seem pro leave. Same amongst younger tradesmen.
Yes, and they vote, its an event for them, something to look forward to.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Do you live in London?
Certainly where I live (coast of West Sussex) most elderly WWC and a lot of middle class seem pro leave. Same amongst younger tradesmen.
"Gates questions Hillary's 'judgment' on emails" When I saw the headline, I thought it unusual for Bill Gates to wade into the political fray to such an extent. Then I realized it was the former CIA chief turned former Secretary of Defense, Robert!
Ken Skates gets Economy and Infrastructure in Welsh cabinet. I forgot him earlier. So that is 6 cabinet members; the chief whip and 3 junior ministers.
Skates and Gething got promotion. The LibDem joins in. No one gets demoted as there were 3 retirements and 1 defeat among previous members.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Do you live in London?
Certainly where I live (coast of West Sussex) most elderly WWC and a lot of middle class seem pro leave. Same amongst younger tradesmen.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Do you live in London?
Certainly where I live (coast of West Sussex) most elderly WWC and a lot of middle class seem pro leave. Same amongst younger tradesmen.
Proximity to Calais a factor?
West Sussex close to Calais?
98 miles as the crow flies from Calais to Worthing. So less than my daily commute round trip. Ergo, in my book, relatively close by. Certainly only a hop in terms of modern economic migration.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Do you live in London?
Certainly where I live (coast of West Sussex) most elderly WWC and a lot of middle class seem pro leave. Same amongst younger tradesmen.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Do you live in London?
Certainly where I live (coast of West Sussex) most elderly WWC and a lot of middle class seem pro leave. Same amongst younger tradesmen.
Proximity to Calais a factor?
West Sussex close to Calais?
Certainly relative to Scotland or Cornwall.
Dover is in Kent, not West Sussex
I do understand that. Worthing is as close to Calais as Baltimore is to Philly.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Do you live in London?
Certainly where I live (coast of West Sussex) most elderly WWC and a lot of middle class seem pro leave. Same amongst younger tradesmen.
Proximity to Calais a factor?
West Sussex close to Calais?
Certainly relative to Scotland or Cornwall.
Dover is in Kent, not West Sussex
I do understand that. Worthing is as close to Calais as Baltimore is to Philly.
And London, UK, is closer to Washington DC than Honolulu, Hawaii, is to DC.
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Do you live in London?
Certainly where I live (coast of West Sussex) most elderly WWC and a lot of middle class seem pro leave. Same amongst younger tradesmen.
Proximity to Calais a factor?
West Sussex close to Calais?
Certainly relative to Scotland or Cornwall.
Dover is in Kent, not West Sussex
I do understand that. Worthing is as close to Calais as Baltimore is to Philly.
And London, UK, is closer to Washington DC than Honolulu, Hawaii, is to DC.
I also understand that the moon is closer than Mars.
I am not getting your point. My point was whether being on the south coast of England exposed West Sussex to a higher rate of immigration than, say northern parts of England, or Wales or Scotland, which might have an effect on attitudes to the EU ref.
5/17-5/18 Rasmussen 2016 General Election Trump 42% Clinton 37%
Second consecutive poll showing Trump in the lead...
Take any polls when one nominee is in place but another isn't with a mammoth dollop of salt.
Supporters of Trump's opponents within the party are at the point where they're begrudgingly getting behind him. Same can not be said for Hillary.
So true....Problem is, Bernie's supporters may well get behind The Donald!
Indeed. I saw a poll suggesting up to 35% of his support in WV will go to Trump. Not that that will make one iota of difference to the make up of the Electoral College.
The thing about Trump, is that he is like a room that only holds one big, red button.
That has DO NOT PRESS on it.
You just desperately want to know what happens if you do press the button/elect him as President....whether intrigued or appalled at the possibility, it is just too tantalising to pass up!
Another weasel-worded non apology from an elite Labour MP. Lady Bucket Mk II.
Calling Pat Glass one of the elite is stretching the term rather far!
Elite in her attitudes, if not in her upbringing.
How many Labour WWC are going to turn out for Remain, outside London?
I think a lot, I've been surprised how many WWC and youthful campaigners in Sheffield Remain have.
Interesting. A few weeks ago there was some nervousness amongst the metropolitan Labour elite that WWC Labour voters outside London might not be motivated to turn out or even tempted to vote leave by the siren calls of UKIP.
Fortunately the unions have weighed in heavily and Corbyn & McDonnell have done a lot to dispel talk that they were only lukewarm about Remain.
I find it amusing when people like Blackburn63 confidently assert there will be "very few" WWC voters backing Remain outside of London. I doubt they they have a clue what campaigning the unions are doing.
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
Do you live in London?
Certainly where I live (coast of West Sussex) most elderly WWC and a lot of middle class seem pro leave. Same amongst younger tradesmen.
Proximity to Calais a factor?
West Sussex close to Calais?
Certainly relative to Scotland or Cornwall.
Dover is in Kent, not West Sussex
I do understand that. Worthing is as close to Calais as Baltimore is to Philly.
And London, UK, is closer to Washington DC than Honolulu, Hawaii, is to DC.
I also understand that the moon is closer than Mars.
I am not getting your point. My point was whether being on the south coast of England exposed West Sussex to a higher rate of immigration than, say northern parts of England, or Wales or Scotland, which might have an effect on attitudes to the EU ref.
My point being that London isn't as far from Washington as Honolulu is (currently the farthest State Capital from DC).
“It takes a lifetime to build a good reputation, but you can lose it in a minute."
The problem for nate is he is now the top bod of a 40 person team looking at all sorts of stuff. From interviews I have heard he now spends a huge amount of his time managing / editing rather than being the baseball stats geek applying similar methods to politics eg They now have big contracts for sports modelling. Eye off ball and all that.
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But it's like any p2p gambling the chance a casual wins even a big field online poker, even buying as low as $100 these days is absolutely tiny. The $109 rebuy on pokerstars is probably the hardest tournament on the planet.
your'e a lawyer, you don't actually work.
I had Richard down as more of a lager man.
Eventually the pool of suckers will run dry.
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/2015guide/sheffieldhallam/
What's the context. Those look like unguided artillery rockets, like Katyusha rockets.
*actually I forgot about there being a Test in May and am out of cash, so virtual betting on the spreadsheet for this Test.
Health, well being and sport: Vaughan Gething
Finance and Local Government: Mark Drakeford
Education: Kristy Williams
Environment and Rural Affairs: Lesley Griffiths
Communities and Children: Carl Sergeant
Leader of the House and Chief Whip: Jane Hutt
Junior minister
Skills and Science: Julie James
Lifelong learning and Welsh language: Alun Davies
Social Services and Public Health: Rebecca Evans
these young WWC enthusiasts are simply your flunkies,
Class is a state of mind, you are what you want to be. Salad cream and mayonnaise play an bigger role than they're given credit for.
No doubt a sink (volvo) estate.
BBC PARLIAMENT
75: Not Out
Angela Rippon presents 75: Not Out. As the UK prepares to go to the polls over membership of the EU, BBC Parliament looks back to 5 June 1975 when the British public was asked to vote on being part of the European Economic Community (EEC) in the country’s first ever nationwide referendum.
Legendary BBC newsreader Angela Rippon returns to the story she covered as a young journalist, presenting an evening of programmes from the BBC archives and sharing her memories of the political turmoil of a nation - and a government - divided.
The circumstances sound familiar: A Prime Minister promises to renegotiate the country's terms of European membership and then takes the choice to the people. He makes the unprecedented decision to allow members of his cabinet to campaign to leave, despite his government urging the public to vote yes. But the Prime Minster in question was Harold Wilson, and the year was 1975.
Viewers will be treated to key moments in the 1975 campaign including the tense Panorama head-to-head between Tony Benn and Roy Jenkins and the riotous Oxford Union debate between Barbara Castle, Ted Heath, Jeremy Thorpe and Peter Shore. Newly-crowned Conservative leader Margaret Thatcher pops up in her striking European flag jumper and to give her support to the ‘In’ campaign on Newsday. The night ends with a young David Dimbleby presenting his first national results programme, when 67 percent of British voters said ‘Yes’ to the UK's membership of the European Economic Community (EEC).
Join BBC Parliament on 5 June for 75: Not Out, a trip down memory lane, when no studio was too beige and no collar too large.
75: Not Out Schedule
19:05 The National Referendum Campaign ‘Out Into The World’ party political broadcast
19:15 Part I: Debate from the Oxford Union featuring Peter Shore & Jeremy Thorpe
20:05 ‘Britain In Europe’ party political broadcast with Jim Callaghan, Shirley Williams, David Steel, Willie Whitelaw and Roy Jenkins
20:15 The Rock and Roll Years 1975
20:45 Newsday: Angela Rippon reads the news, Michael Charlton interviews Conservative leader Margaret Thatcher
21:00 Panorama: David Dimbleby presents a head to head debate between Tony Benn and Roy Jenkins
21:50 Nationwide: Bernard Falk talks to ex-pat Brits living in Brussels
22:00 Part II: Debate from the Oxford Union featuring Barbara Castle and Ted Heath
23:00 News: Pro-marketeers celebrate victory and Tony Benn is graceful in defeat
23:05 Referendum results programme presented by David Dimbleby with David Butler
Sunday 5 June
7.00pm-1.05am
BBC PARLIAMENT
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/images/pie2/1328pie4.png
Ilford North is:
52% white, 33% Asian, 8% Black
5/17-5/18 Rasmussen
2016 General Election
Trump 42% Clinton 37%
Second consecutive poll showing Trump in the lead...
I would say I am middle class but I would also say I work damned hard so the idea I'm not so-called working class is odd. It is bizarre that a person working 50 hours a week is not working class but someone working 16 hours a week (if at all) is.
Supporters of Trump's opponents within the party are at the point where they're begrudgingly getting behind him. Same can not be said for Hillary.
the final ComRes poll got all top five parties to within a point of their actual vote share on both rounds of voting
Impressive.
"ComRes interviewed 1,034 adults living in London online from 28th April to 3rd May 2016"
Who can forget how well UKIP were going to do in last years' s Oldham by-election?
I am expecting very substantial numbers of WWC Remain voters, particularly in the big cities.
This time however.......
Patience, dear boy...
What has screwed Hillary is that it simply hasn't looked that way - she has not had a big somewhat unexpected against the demographics win like Trump had in IN (Her bigger than expected victories were on Super Tuesday in very AA states where she was a mile ahead anyway), and Bernie has stayed in way past the point it is even vaguely plausible he can win unlike Cruz/Kasich !
Bernie has had as many winning nights as Hillary too, which has distorted perceptions
The can't be arsed are Leave's biggest strength
Rasmussen's 2012 performance was garbage.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/robert-gates-hillary-clinton-email-223359
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articles/36332346
Very sexist article...no exploration of women only clubs, only.a token mention in the final sentence! ;-)
Skates and Gething got promotion. The LibDem joins in. No one gets demoted as there were 3 retirements and 1 defeat among previous members.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/?ex_cid=538twitter
I am not getting your point. My point was whether being on the south coast of England exposed West Sussex to a higher rate of immigration than, say northern parts of England, or Wales or Scotland, which might have an effect on attitudes to the EU ref.
That has DO NOT PRESS on it.
You just desperately want to know what happens if you do press the button/elect him as President....whether intrigued or appalled at the possibility, it is just too tantalising to pass up!
http://election.princeton.edu/