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MIND THE GAP: HOW LONG WILL BORIS JOHNSON SERVE AS PRIME MINISTER? – politicalbetting.com

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  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,392
    malcolmg said:

    They could fill them with brussels sprouts and kill two birds with one stone.
    Rolling about. Brilliant.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,651
    Zoe is starting to show some pretty consistent day on day falls now.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,113

    I would have thought the likes of Nike spend millions researching this. I highly doubt they are subpar compared to 30-40 years ago, given how every other part of their preparation is optimised.
    Actually, I wouldn't be surprised. The likes of Nike would be much more interested in shoes for their top athletes, competing in the high-profile sports. They won't commit too many resources to fringe sports (and the jumping sports are relatively fringe). The requirements for the sports may be very different.

    And even for football, a quick Google showed this:
    https://www.empowerband.com/post/how-modern-football-boots-cause-foot-injuries
    https://sportslens.com/can-football-boots-cause-injuries/7694/
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,934
    No really big names in this final. Odd. Usually the blue ribbon event.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,520
    Sandpit said:

    Here goes then, the 100m final.

    I’ll be really annoyed if it isnt’t over before the Grand Prix starts.

    Will be - it only takes a few seconds. 9.81 approx.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    What a light show!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,084

    That isn't a surprise though, as the lady has got close before.

    We were talking about WR that have stood for ages but nobody gets near. Women 800m being the most stand out (cough cough)...
    Least the women's 100m OR was broken this games. The WR is always going to be tricky with the broken windspeed meter (Flo Jo's WR was almost certainly +4.0 m/s)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    edited August 2021

    Actually, I wouldn't be surprised. The likes of Nike would be much more interested in shoes for their top athletes, competing in the high-profile sports. They won't commit too many resources to fringe sports (and the jumping sports are relatively fringe). The requirements for the sports may be very different.

    And even for football, a quick Google showed this:
    https://www.empowerband.com/post/how-modern-football-boots-cause-foot-injuries
    https://sportslens.com/can-football-boots-cause-injuries/7694/
    Modern football boots though are superior in many other respects, but they offer less protection.

    You might be right about it being fringe....it might also be that because its fringe, talented atheletes don't entertain the idea of competing in those events. Way more money in other events / sports.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    IshmaelZ said:

    Sheep graze, deer and goats browse. Of course you can graze sheep in "woodland pasture" (second trendiest thing after rewilding) on the grass between trees, but it isn't efficient. People want sheep much more than they want goat or venison.
    The most efficient way of grazing sheep is upland pasture. We have plenty of that.

    I’m not sure I agree either about woodlands. They have been cheerfully grazing Britain’s forests for thousands of years.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,934
    Well that's the end of the Brit. Sad.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,084
    Disaster for Hughes :(
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Oh dear, Hughes with the fault.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,502
    Pulpstar said:

    Disaster for Hughes :(

    Can understand why he took the chance.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,084
    DavidL said:

    Well that's the end of the Brit. Sad.

    The softest 100 metre field in years too.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,113

    Modern football boots though are superior in many other respects, but they offer less protection.
    That's kind-of the point: jumping sports may need more protection than football.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,502
    A good few minutes for Italy!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,534
    Great sporting year for Italy, they win the Euros and now have their first ever men's 100m Olympic gold medal winner
  • Pulpstar said:

    Least the women's 100m OR was broken this games. The WR is always going to be tricky with the broken windspeed meter (Flo Jo's WR was almost certainly +4.0 m/s)
    And she was juiced to the gills....
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,502

    That's kind-of the point: jumping sports may need more protection than football.
    He means protection from tackles.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Italy win the 100m!!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,534
    ClippP said:

    Well, Johnson is not quite in the Gavin Williamson class, but very nearly. If he can go as low as this in ultra-Conservative Con Home polls, he cannot remain in post very much longer.

    Williamson is kept in place by Johnson's having the final say. Johnson stays, only because the Tory MPs have no backbone. If they did, this chancer would be gone tomorrow.

    And poor old HY would be looking for his next idol to worship.
    That is more Philip Thompson
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,934
    Pulpstar said:

    The softest 100 metre field in years too.
    True but that was fast. Not Bolt fast but fast. No Brit has ever come close to that.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,084

    And she was juiced to the gills....
    The massive (misrecorded) wind assistance was a bigger factor in that race.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,127
    kjh said:

    :smiley:
    The world carrot trade is up there in the pantheon of great HYUFDisms
  • ClippPClippP Posts: 1,960

    ConHome was never much to do with the Conservative Party despite the name. More UKIP than anything else, really.
    But then it is said that the former UKIP supporters have taken over the conservative Party, so it might be that Con Home with its UKIP tendencies is a fair representation of today's Conservative Party.

    So the point remains - Johnson is out of favour and ready for the chop.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    Sky Sports’ F1 coverage really is epically bad. Hype, stupidity and shrieking. Even the Hundred isn’t this awful.

    Anyway, what odds are people offering on Verstappen making it to the end of the first lap this time?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,502
    Colin Jackson counting that as a win for Europe. :lol:
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Wet race in Hungary.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    edited August 2021
    Pulpstar said:

    The massive (misrecorded) wind assistance was a bigger factor in that race.
    Probably...although I reckon if I was on the amount of gear she was on even I could probably run 11s :-)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    ClippP said:

    But then it is said that the former UKIP supporters have taken over the conservative Party, so it might be that Con Home with its UKIP tendencies is a fair representation of today's Conservative Party.

    So the point remains - Johnson is out of favour and ready for the chop.
    Pork or lamb?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,520
    DougSeal said:

    I went to pick up the wife from Heathrow and was told to expect 3-6 hour delays post landing. Her flight from Boston got in at 8 and I planned to leave the house at 8.30 so as to get there at 10 on the off chance it took less. At 8.20, drinking a coffee, leisurely reading the paper and getting ready to leave, I get an exasperated call from Mrs Seal asking me where TF I was. Flight landed at 8, she was through immigration and customs in 20 minutes. I’m not Mr Popular today.

    I've been caught like that. Course, if you go in good time, leave a buffer, it will go the other way and you'll be waiting hours, spending money in cafes, racking up the parking, in and out of the loos, getting tense and irritable, just about ready to explode by the time your 'SO' finally comes lollopping into view.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Everyone on the Inters…
  • HYUFD said:

    Great sporting year for Italy, they win the Euros and now have their first ever men's 100m Olympic gold medal winner

    And the men's high jump and Eurovision too!
  • Sandpit said:

    Oh dear, Hughes with the fault.

    Second British DQ of the 100m. Something wrong with GB coaching (assuming they share a coach)?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    edited August 2021

    Second British DQ of the 100m. Something wrong with GB coaching (assuming they share a coach)?
    Prescott waa dead lucky in the heats as well. He definitely false started once (and got away with it) and was another dodgy one as well where it was touch and go.
  • HYUFD said:

    Great sporting year for Italy, they win the Euros and now have their first ever men's 100m Olympic gold medal winner

    And the high jump.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,392
    ydoethur said:

    The most efficient way of grazing sheep is upland pasture. We have plenty of that.

    I’m not sure I agree either about woodlands. They have been cheerfully grazing Britain’s forests for thousands of years.
    Yes but are they really cheerful or are they dreaming of uplands?
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 4,430
    ydoethur said:

    Pork or lamb?
    He could always be put out to stud....
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    edited August 2021
    Well, that time he didn’t even make the first corner.

    Edit - I should make it clear that this time that wasn’t Hamilton’s fault, but it very clearly was Bottas’.
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    DougSeal said:

    Zoe is starting to show some pretty consistent day on day falls now.

    That is good, IIRC they initially where not showing the same decline that the governments testing indicated, but do you have a link?
  • I think every race in F1 should be wet....far more exciting.
  • Bottas for SPOTY.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,502
    That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen since Turkey 2010.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617

    He could always be put out to stud....
    Not AFAIK a high enough IQ to compete with those Nobel laureates and Mensa wizards who offer their spermatozoa at prices that cost even more per cc than my printer's ink.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    ydoethur said:

    The most efficient way of grazing sheep is upland pasture. We have plenty of that.

    I’m not sure I agree either about woodlands. They have been cheerfully grazing Britain’s forests for thousands of years.
    It's that right? The most efficient use of upland pasture is to graze sheep on it (leaving grouse to one side) but that is not the same thing. You can feed 50x the number of sheep on an acre of nice green field than an acre of fell.

    The mountain sheep are sweeter,
    But the valley sheep are fatter;
    We therefore deemed it meeter
    To carry off the latter.
    We made an expedition;
    We met a host, and quelled it;
    We forced a strong position,
    And killed the men who held it.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,084
    Bottas needs a 3 race ban lol
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    edited August 2021
    Happy #YorkshireDay, which I shall celebrate in the traditional manner by being completely right about absolutely everything.

    https://twitter.com/ianduhig/status/1421740238595104769?s=19

    Maybe they could celebrate by paying for their round for once....
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Oh well, Lewis for the win looks like a good bet.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    IshmaelZ said:

    It's that right? The most efficient use of upland pasture is to graze sheep on it (leaving grouse to one side) but that is not the same thing. You can feed 50x the number of sheep on an acre of nice green field than an acre of fell.

    The mountain sheep are sweeter,
    But the valley sheep are fatter;
    We therefore deemed it meeter
    To carry off the latter.
    We made an expedition;
    We met a host, and quelled it;
    We forced a strong position,
    And killed the men who held it.
    I think, with respect, you’re missing the point. The claim was that we will stop eating red meat because it requires deforestation. I was pointing out that was bollocks, as goats, deer and sheep can use natural landscapes that don’t require deforestation.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,651
    BigRich said:

    That is good, IIRC they initially where not showing the same decline that the governments testing indicated, but do you have a link?
    The reports sent to the Government that have the historic “newly sick” are only available to subscribers but you can see the case peak on total in the public dashboard at covid.joinzoe.com
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    Could somebody please explain to Mercedes that they’re driving in F1 not a Dodgems championship?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,934
    edited August 2021
    Pulpstar said:

    Bottas needs a 3 race ban lol

    Max seriously lucky to still be in this race but surely his performance will be compromised? His car looks a mess.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,840
    ClippP said:

    But then it is said that the former UKIP supporters have taken over the conservative Party, so it might be that Con Home with its UKIP tendencies is a fair representation of today's Conservative Party.

    So the point remains - Johnson is out of favour and ready for the chop.
    Except that it still isn't. Any more than "Wings" is the SNP.

    The real metric to measure on this is the support of the MPs in the commons - how many rebellions, how often. The MPs are very much connected into their local associations, which are where the actual party members are.

    When you factor in that ConHome uses voodoo polls, the value of such "information" drops to zero.

    Might as well get a Momentum voodoo poll on Starmer.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,502
    Pulpstar said:

    Bottas needs a 3 race ban lol

    Interesting how things change. Kimi got no penalty for this in 2008:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Et8hVVM0Voo
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,084
    edited August 2021
    tlg86 said:

    Interesting how things change. Kimi got no penalty for this in 2008:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Et8hVVM0Voo
    I don't know what he'll get if anything but he's seriously compromised/knocked out about 4 cars here. Needs a punishment for sure.

    Edit: The more you watch it the worse it is.

    And it directly benefits his team-mate.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,651
    kinabalu said:

    I've been caught like that. Course, if you go in good time, leave a buffer, it will go the other way and you'll be waiting hours, spending money in cafes, racking up the parking, in and out of the loos, getting tense and irritable, just about ready to explode by the time your 'SO' finally comes lollopping into view.
    There’s a sign saying you shouldn’t leave your car when collecting unless you have to. Didn’t fancy six hours in the motor however new it is. Although I suppose I could have spent it figuring out how to change the preset radio stations.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,934

    I think every race in F1 should be wet....far more exciting.

    Yes, they should spray the track for the LOLs
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,414
    edited August 2021
    Pulpstar said:

    I don't know what he'll get if anything but he's seriously compromised/knocked out about 4 cars here. Needs a punishment for sure.

    Edit: The more you watch it the worse it is.

    And it directly benefits his team-mate.
    I view this more of a Belgium 98 incident rather than malice or incompetence.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    ydoethur said:

    I think, with respect, you’re missing the point. The claim was that we will stop eating red meat because it requires deforestation. I was pointing out that was bollocks, as goats, deer and sheep can use natural landscapes that don’t require deforestation.
    And my point is that you get more and cheaper lamb off fields which used to be woods, and much less and more expensive lamb out of woods which are still woods.

    The whole of that Peacock poem deserves showcasing on PB. Easily as bloodthirsty as Sean's Aztecs

    The mountain sheep are sweeter,
    But the valley sheep are fatter;
    We therefore deemed it meeter
    To carry off the latter.
    We made an expedition;
    We met a host, and quelled it;
    We forced a strong position,
    And killed the men who held it.

    On Dyfed's richest valley,
    Where herds of kine were browsing,
    We made a mighty sally,
    To furnish our carousing.
    Fierce warriors rushed to meet us;
    We met them, and o'erthrew them:
    They struggled hard to beat us;
    But we conquered them, and slew them.

    As we drove our prize at leisure,
    The king marched forth to catch us:
    His rage surpassed all measure,
    But his people could not match us.
    He fled to his hall-pillars;
    And, ere our force we led off,
    Some sacked his house and cellars,
    While others cut his head off.

    We there, in strife bewild'ring,
    Spilt blood enough to swim in:
    We orphaned many children,
    And widowed many women.
    The eagles and the ravens
    We glutted with our foemen;
    The heroes and the cravens,
    The spearmen and the bowmen.

    We brought away from battle,
    And much their land bemoaned them,
    Two thousand head of cattle,
    And the head of him who owned them:
    Ednyfed, king of Dyfed,
    His head was borne before us;
    His wine and beasts supplied our feasts,
    And his overthrow, our chorus.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,083
    Pulpstar said:

    I don't know what he'll get if anything but he's seriously compromised/knocked out about 4 cars here. Needs a punishment for sure.

    Edit: The more you watch it the worse it is.
    Actually, here I think he might be let off because of the weather. His brakes locked and he skidded.

    A poor piece of driving but not as bad as Hamilton’s last time which was a dud overtaking manoeuvre (and which actually enabled to win a race which he otherwise was most unlikely to win). Also, of course, he’s out of the race.

    Hamilton got 10 seconds. This would be similar, I think, with Bottas out I think probably he’ll just be told not to be such a bloody twit in future.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,502
    edited August 2021
    Pulpstar said:

    I don't know what he'll get if anything but he's seriously compromised/knocked out about 4 cars here. Needs a punishment for sure.

    Edit: The more you watch it the worse it is.

    And it directly benefits his team-mate.
    Actually, Hakkinen got a one race ban for this:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gnVNse5eUR4

    They didn’t restart this race. Hill could have been champion had they done so.

    And, of course, Grosjean got a ban for Spa 2012, which I was at.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SFg58c3YM70
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,113
    Norris out.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,127
    edited August 2021
    Shirt unbuttoned to chest hair level? Check.
    Suit cut at least 10 years too young? Check.
    Tory 'Ahm really bad wi the Elephantiasis the noo' power pose? Check.

    Welcome your new overlord, SLDs.

    https://twitter.com/joe_yer99/status/1421580583789027329?s=20
  • NEW THREAD

  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,195
    kjh said:

    Rolling about. Brilliant.
    There's a reason why freight containers are inexpensive in the UK...
  • Talking of edifices which have run out of luck:

    ‘Scotland's most striking castle on tiny remote island for sale at just £1’

    https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/scotlands-most-striking-castle-tiny-21194439.amp

    Hate to be pedantic, but that headline is riddled with porkies:
    1. it is not a “castle”, it is a late Victorian estate house
    2. it is not “striking”, it is horrifically ugly and completely out of place in its environment
    3. in a list of Scotland’s “most striking” structures, it wouldn’t make the top 5000
    4. Rum is not tiny; it is the largest island in its archipelago
    5. It is not for sale (even the article itself explicitly says that “Kinloch Castle is not currently on the open market for sale”)
    6. It does not cost £1

    So, in summary, the only remotely truthful assertion is that Rum is “remote”, although even that is nonsense if you happen to live in Eigg, Skye or Mallaig. And “remoteness” is a function of demography, politics and fashions in transportation. Rum was very central if you were a competent seafarer during the Lordship of the Isles.

    This is the very peak of junk journalism. A primary school child could write a better article. The culprit? The despicable Reach plc. What a bunch of chancers.

    A thoroughly forensic debunking, thank you
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 29,846
    edited August 2021

    NEW THREAD

    Are you sure? I got:-
    Data too long for column 'Name' at row 1|Gdn_Database|Query|insert `GDN_Discussion` (`InsertUserID`, `DateInserted`, `DateUpdated`, `CategoryID`, `ForeignID`, `Type`, `Name`, `Body`, `Format`, `Attributes`) values (:InsertUserID, :DateInserted, :DateUpdated, :CategoryID, :ForeignID, :Type, :Name, :Body, :Format, :Attributes)
    which is tech-nerd speak for I've done the rent money on Bottas.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Cannae post on yon indyref thread, the Tories willnae permit it.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,113
    New thread is borken.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,302
    DavidL said:

    Yes, they should spray the track for the LOLs
    Bernie suggested that.
  • False start on the new thread....like Team GB in the 100m
  • New thread is borken.

    I blame TSE :lol:
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,651
    Unionist saboteurs have been interfering with the new thread.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,113
    kle4 said:

    Bernie suggested that.
    Bernie was a genius. He knew that F1 lived off news, and they had five months of the year when there was very little news. So he'd come up with bonkers ideas (e.g. the medals system) that would get the media het up and generate stories. He'd also do it to distract from other stories.

    Love him or loathe him, he was blooming good at what he did.
  • IshmaelZ said:

    Cannae post on yon indyref thread, the Tories willnae permit it.

    Can you post on it now?
  • Looks like India are good at a sport other than Cricket!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,084
    Absolute scenes lol
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,487

    Now I am back to visions of HYFUD, by the roadside on the A78, in the pouring rain, trying to kick some life back into a solitary Covenanter tank...
    HYUFD, I wish I had spent the afternoon following this utterly surreal thread, instead of entertaining the family for lunch. P.S. We had sprouts. P.P.S. I live 100m from the A78. I will listen out for the tanks.
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