Could work, but only if they made the Friday a bank holiday.
However, that’s not the worst idea either. Make the Thursday and the Friday of a General Election a bank holiday weekend, and then the markets won’t panic every five minutes according to Twitter reports and the disengaged will be pleased it’s happening.
It would detract from the ritualistic aspect of election days. The way we do the counts is one of the things that anchors our democratic culture, so we shouldn't mess with it.
This is probably sensible, but as a one-time activist (in 2016) there was something rather exhilarating about getting up early, doing GOTV until near the close of polls, then attending the count. That said it took me a couple of days to recover, but just going to bed at 10pm would have felt rather tame in comparison.
He describes the 2 competing visions for where the party goes post Brexit.
"The Dominant Narrative": Leave/Remain will fade as a political identity. Left/Right and Class will reassert itself. So get back to the knitting. Win back the WWC. Left. Big State. Patriotism.
"The Alternative Narrative": Leave/Remain is here to stay. So make the choice as the Cons have done. Be the party of Remainers and proud of it. Centrist. Liberal. Internationalist.
I find this interesting because it shows how big the challenge is. For example, I personally, as a Labour member and voter, can't easily decide which of the above I prefer. I like and dislike bits of both. And maybe Starmer feels the same because it's not totally clear to me right now where he's at.
Fwiw, forgetting everything apart from winning elections, and if SKS were to fall on his sword and the party were to replace him with me, I think I would go full fat with the Alternative Narrative. Bye bye working class, hello social liberals (any class welcome).
But I'm not sure.
David Herdson, on twitter the other day, asked "Why should Labour even be 'about' the 'working class' (whatever that means)? Why not define itself by values and ideology instead?"
Which seems like a similar theme.
I was quite taken aback by it to be honest. Labour, to me, by definition should always be about whats best for the working class/low paid workers, that is the reason why I have never been able to comprehend their love for FOM, which as Maurice Glasman put it (I think), is "The biggest capitalist con trick invented by man"
...from about 20 mins in, very interesting analysis of the effects of global capitalism on the working class from a left wing perspective, which I pretty much 100% agree with
Tricky one, isn't it. However I manage to be Left and also a Globalist. Here's how. Free movement and globalization increases global GDP and reduces inequality between countries. Both good. But if unfettered it increases inequality within countries and this is bad. Therefore in mitigation the UK government should legislate domestically in favour of labour and against capital. Which I support. That's how I square the circle.
And colours to the mast, I see 'free movement' as a great great thing. That people can move painlessly across national borders to live and work as they wish - for me that's a wonderful aspiration to always be progressing towards, Europe and elsewhere. Of course there are problems with it - eg unbalanced flows, wage distortions, housing, culture clashes, etc - but like I say that's where governments come in. Stop pandering and scapegoating. Address those issues.
What's the point otherwise? Just hunker down and park the bus? No. Not for me. Let's elevate. The beautiful game.
Apart from it is easy to say legislate and regulate. Not so easy however to come up with anything that addresses the issues of unlimited immigration causing for example a race to the bottom on wages.
Let me guess you are going to say higher minimum wage - all you do then he attract even more of a flow from countries with low minimum wage to those with higher as we saw in eastern european migration
Ah you will say then we set a global minimum wage - well apart from the obvious absurdity of getting the whole world to agree then all you do is change the flow from countries with high costs of living to those with low.
The other problem of course with high minimum wages is the more jobs you drag into the minimum wage net the less value people see in doing those jobs. If I could get the same being a barista as I get for my current job for example I would quit in an instant.
As I said easy to wave your hand airily and say legislate/ regulate not so easy to actually come up with anything to solve the issues
TBF - to me - I'm not dismissing the difficulties. Free movement in a world of such appalling wealth inequality is utopian. But it's a great aspiration and should be embraced when and where possible, ie if people can be convinced that the social & economic benefits outweigh the costs. The hope would be that as time passes we see more "FM" areas being created in various regions around the world. If this doesn't happen it would be a bit depressing. Even more so if we go in the other direction. Which we seem to be atm.
The difficulties though are far from being merely economic. They are cultural. How would you feel for example after throwing our borders open if we had a massive influx of sub saharan black christians and muslims, say for the sake of argument 15 million or so.....enough to shift the voting balance. Then with their voting power they start voting for a repeal of gay marriage. They are after all not known for their liberal views on homosexuality.
As noted before, I think someone, even a PM, having to wait bleary eyed for results until 4am in a dilapidated sports centre hall next to Elmo, is a major benefit through forced humility.
Not the same after a good nights sleep, and no quicker or more accurate.
Awful idea - you get the exit pool boom at 10am and you then wait however long to see if it's right! No way.
The Exit Poll would have to be embargoed, wouldn't it?
Yes, good luck with that though, it'd leak in 10 minutes. I agree with Felix - when you've spent all day or indeed all month or all year on it, the last thing you want to do is go to bed! You want RESULTS!
Yes, the people who would really benefit are the candidates and activists.
Polling day for me in London meant getting up at 5 am for an early morning delivery run which I’d start from 5.30, finish by 7.00 so I could leap in the car and make sure all the first tellers were in position (or alternatively do the first hour at one of them myself), then back to the committee room to set things up, make sure everything was under control and that people knew what they were doing. Time to snatch something for breakfast, then it was pretty much non stop rushing around, a mix of door knocking, delivery, organising and crisis management, through to close of poll at 10pm. The only bits of rest were spells of telling, when as the candidate you had to be smiling and chatting to those people who wanted to talk or ask questions on the way out.
Then a quick shower and change of clothes and it was off to the count. Usually the declarations wouldn’t come through until 3.00 or 4.00 am; by the time I got back from the count it was after a solid 24 hours of activity and exhaustion beckoned, although it was hard to get to sleep without checking the internet to see how friends and colleagues in other patches had done, and to catch the general news. It was incredibly tough.
Awful idea - you get the exit pool boom at 10am and you then wait however long to see if it's right! No way.
The Exit Poll would have to be embargoed, wouldn't it?
Yes, good luck with that though, it'd leak in 10 minutes. I agree with Felix - when you've spent all day or indeed all month or all year on it, the last thing you want to do is go to bed! You want RESULTS!
I saw the 2017 exit poll at 930. It was dynamite. There is no way it could be kept quiet overnight.
One way to do it would be to have the polls close at noon on the Friday.
Could work, but only if they made the Friday a bank holiday.
However, that’s not the worst idea either. Make the Thursday and the Friday of a General Election a bank holiday weekend, and then the markets won’t panic every five minutes according to Twitter reports and the disengaged will be pleased it’s happening.
I though that but the US dont seem to struggle......it took how many weeks for Trump to lose?
A number of constituencies have always preferred to count "in the daylight". In 1997, I had worked in the St Ives ending up telling at Zennor at 9.30pm.
I had been on first shift since 7am and was shattered. I missed all the overnight fun but went down to St John's Hall in Penzance for the count for the constituency (which includes the Scillies). It was a glorious day both politically and meteorologically but it wouldn't have been the same at 3am the night before.
I have two comments - first, there would need to be adequate and proper security arrangements in place to ensure ballot boxes are unopened - this happens now with European election results as we know.
Second, and I don't know if this would compromise the above - would it be possible to do some initial work on establishing turnout numbers for example (from the marked registers) or separate (if necessary) ballots for the GE from any local election contests occurring at the same time? Very often, (though not last time), a GE will coincide with a round of local elections and that can slow the process considerably.
Counting national ballots on Friday and local ballots on Saturday seems eminently sensible.
Could work, but only if they made the Friday a bank holiday.
However, that’s not the worst idea either. Make the Thursday and the Friday of a General Election a bank holiday weekend, and then the markets won’t panic every five minutes according to Twitter reports and the disengaged will be pleased it’s happening.
I though that but the US dont seem to struggle......it took how many weeks for Trump to lose?
None, but six months later he doesn’t seem to have come to terms with it.
Edit - and I do seem to remember a fair amount of market volatility over Trump’s actions, although I will admit I wasn’t paying attention.
I'm a bit bemused how a fight with the lefties of Burgon and co could be perceived as anything but a net positive for Starmer, the quicker they're all sidelined the quicker the public will see Labour has changed.
I'm a bit bemused how a fight with the lefties of Burgon and co could be perceived as anything but a net positive for Starmer, the quicker they're all sidelined the quicker the public will see Labour has changed.
I'm a bit bemused how a fight with the lefties of Burgon and co could be perceived as anything but a net positive for Starmer, the quicker they're all sidelined the quicker the public will see Labour has changed.
What am I missing
Where does it end? It will be just another battle in the never ending psychodrama that is internal Labour politics. Starmer would be better off trying to cultivate those on the left and right that are prepared to bury the hatchet and find a way to win.
(By which presumably they mean Miles Hammond, the Gloucestershire T20 opener.)
I think it’s fair to say though that Hampshire have throughout this match batted if not like a Hammond, at least like a bunch of Wallies.
Yep, great start to the season now traditionally falling apart. Totally blaming you... Have you thought of starting a business? People pay for you to tip their rivals?
(By which presumably they mean Miles Hammond, the Gloucestershire T20 opener.)
I think it’s fair to say though that Hampshire have throughout this match batted if not like a Hammond, at least like a bunch of Wallies.
Yep, great start to the season now traditionally falling apart. Totally blaming you... Have you thought of starting a business? People pay for you to tip their rivals?
Which uni department are you competing with for funding, and how much is it worth?
"Those were the elections that were, they're over, let 'em go"
Not much chance on here.
My first thought is trying to cast huge national generalisations on what were, especially in England, local contests, is going to be problematic at best.
I commented on Scotland last night - in Wales. too, Labour have defied some of the expectations (hopes) on here and have survived to carry on governing (I think Charles Hawtrey wasn't in that one).
As for England - the more you look at it, the more it defies generalisation and characterisation. There are many Englands, not only politically but culturally and socially. Boris Johnson speaks for some, perhaps many, of them but not all.
The results show a patchwork of different political Englands - why did the Conservatives do so well in Kent and East Sussex but so poorly in Surrey? Why did the LDs do so badly in Cornwall?
I presume the unsurprising answer is they were local elections and thus the opportunity for less than half the electorate to hold "the council" to account. Where the council was deemed to be performing well, the incumbent prospered, where they weren't, they didn't.
That's one layer over which others can be placed because the results are multi-dimensional (as they often are).
I'm a bit bemused how a fight with the lefties of Burgon and co could be perceived as anything but a net positive for Starmer, the quicker they're all sidelined the quicker the public will see Labour has changed.
What am I missing
That lots of young Labour voters and activists like the lefties, and wont vote or campaign for Starmer if he fights them.
They may attract more Centrists from the LDs and Tories, but if Labour lose the Red Wall, the working class and the socialists, are they even Labour anymore?
(By which presumably they mean Miles Hammond, the Gloucestershire T20 opener.)
I think it’s fair to say though that Hampshire have throughout this match batted if not like a Hammond, at least like a bunch of Wallies.
Yep, great start to the season now traditionally falling apart. Totally blaming you... Have you thought of starting a business? People pay for you to tip their rivals?
Which uni department are you competing with for funding, and how much is it worth?
This is potentially an EXTREMELY lucrative opportunity for you
(By which presumably they mean Miles Hammond, the Gloucestershire T20 opener.)
I think it’s fair to say though that Hampshire have throughout this match batted if not like a Hammond, at least like a bunch of Wallies.
Yep, great start to the season now traditionally falling apart. Totally blaming you... Have you thought of starting a business? People pay for you to tip their rivals?
Which uni department are you competing with for funding, and how much is it worth?
This is potentially an EXTREMELY lucrative opportunity for you
Although cricket commentary is probably still the way to go.
Even Nass can’t put the hex on them like I do.
Imagine how much IPL franchises will pay me to praise their next opponents...
The present timing maximises the number of politics nerds who can actually watch the action in real time, as not many are at work from 12.30 am-5am when the action happens. It has that fantastic immediacy of instant action, it is hard to corrupt, doesn't get stale, is a British (though not NI) institution, allowing someone to be PM at midnight and comprehensively defenestrated by 3 am, allows Sunderland its moment of glory. Everything about it is brilliant. Don't mess with it.
Yes, the people who would really benefit are the candidates and activists.
Polling day for me in London meant getting up at 5 am for an early morning delivery run which I’d start from 5.30, finish by 7.00 so I could leap in the car and make sure all the first tellers were in position (or alternatively do the first hour at one of them myself), then back to the committee room to set things up, make sure everything was under control and that people knew what they were doing. Time to snatch something for breakfast, then it was pretty much non stop rushing around, a mix of door knocking, delivery, organising and crisis management, through to close of poll at 10pm. The only bits of rest were spells of telling, when as the candidate you had to be smiling and chatting to those people who wanted to talk or ask questions on the way out.
Then a quick shower and change of clothes and it was off to the count. Usually the declarations wouldn’t come through until 3.00 or 4.00 am; by the time I got back from the count it was after a solid 24 hours of activity and exhaustion beckoned, although it was hard to get to sleep without checking the internet to see how friends and colleagues in other patches had done, and to catch the general news. It was incredibly tough.
The thing is, 99 times out of 100, without all that frantic ground game activity the result would be exactly the same.
Yes, the people who would really benefit are the candidates and activists.
Polling day for me in London meant getting up at 5 am for an early morning delivery run which I’d start from 5.30, finish by 7.00 so I could leap in the car and make sure all the first tellers were in position (or alternatively do the first hour at one of them myself), then back to the committee room to set things up, make sure everything was under control and that people knew what they were doing. Time to snatch something for breakfast, then it was pretty much non stop rushing around, a mix of door knocking, delivery, organising and crisis management, through to close of poll at 10pm. The only bits of rest were spells of telling, when as the candidate you had to be smiling and chatting to those people who wanted to talk or ask questions on the way out.
Then a quick shower and change of clothes and it was off to the count. Usually the declarations wouldn’t come through until 3.00 or 4.00 am; by the time I got back from the count it was after a solid 24 hours of activity and exhaustion beckoned, although it was hard to get to sleep without checking the internet to see how friends and colleagues in other patches had done, and to catch the general news. It was incredibly tough.
The thing is, 99 times out of 100, without all that frantic ground game activity the result would be exactly the same.
Of course. I always said that election campaigning was remarkable for having such a huge ratio of effort to outcome. It did make a difference - I have enough anecdotes to prove that - but each person helping probably only shifted the result by a handful of votes. Trouble is, under our voting system, a handful of votes can be all the difference.
Ridiculous that Spain still not jabbing at the w/e.
Depends. As long as production and supply are the bottleneck, if you can do the jabs in five days you won't go any faster by spreading them over seven.
And although Euro production has accelerated, that's still the rate limiting step.
Having said that, France is trying a new wheeze- I think starting this week. Although the main booking is still age-restricted (55+ plus, or younger people with risk factors) they're introducing a kind of lastminute.com facility where anyone can book slots that are still available the night before.
(By which presumably they mean Miles Hammond, the Gloucestershire T20 opener.)
I think it’s fair to say though that Hampshire have throughout this match batted if not like a Hammond, at least like a bunch of Wallies.
Yep, great start to the season now traditionally falling apart. Totally blaming you... Have you thought of starting a business? People pay for you to tip their rivals?
Which uni department are you competing with for funding, and how much is it worth?
Chemistry mainly, but I’ve kinda got a foot in their camp too, so might be counterproductive...
Almost 180k first doses registered in today's numbers I think! Very good first doses and hopefully the start of a first dose surge over the next 6-8 weeks to get the programme done.
My own "manor" (as we don't say) was enlightening as it always is.
If there are many Englands, there are many Londons. Sadiq won though a ringing endorsement it was not. As long as you appreciate how little actual power the Mayor has, expecting bold and radical accomplishments is always going to leave you disappointed.
The Mayor is a high-profile low-responsibility post which suits a certain type of politician (the extrovert populist) but if you think you're going to change people's lives, you're in the wrong job.
Oddly enough, even though it hasn't happened yet, I think it's easier for a Mayor to be elected (you're different to the incumbent) than to be re-elected (everyone knows who you are and what you haven't done).
Bailey could call on the core Conservative vote in London (around 30% at higher turnout elections) and with turnout down four points, it got him to a respectable number (though not much different from Goldsmith in 2016).
With more "opportunity" to protest and less desire to go out and vote, Khan's vote peeled away at the margins so he ended up with just 40%. It's worth noting the Greens won the second preferences overall but Khan was always going to get more "seconds" than Bailey and in the end he won comfortably.
The Greens did okay - the LD performance was disastrous and there are questions for both parties going forward.
Perhaps the most revealing aspect was the strong Conservative performance in hitherto weak areas. As I noted with the East Ham Central by-election, the Conservative vote was well up. In that contest, the Labour vote fell from 2,775 to 2,297 but the Conservative vote jumped from 470 to 1,288 as the turnout rose to the mid-40s.
Looking ahead to next year, we have the London locals. The lack of change across the GLA suggests no particular political earthquake. Barnet looks safe for the Conservatives based on the East Barnet by-election and Richmond looks secure for the LDs. I'd be less confident about Kingston for the LDs but we'll see.
Of course, national political events may provide a different climate than the one we are currently experiencing but Labour are defending 1,100 seats and the Conservatives only 500 so the "expectation management" may be an interesting game.
Yes, LDs take control of St Albans (which will please Daisy) and I suppose LDs 565, Greens 138 is a mere detail. Probably not worth mentioning Independents +35 to 248 either.
Plenty of Conservative seats to capture in 2024 and 2025 on these numbers.
The Nationalists only got 49% combined on the constituency vote which Alba ignored there.
Once you take account of the fact that the Greens got 34,990 votes on the constituency vote and most Scottish Green constituency voters oppose independence now as the below links shows, then even on total vote figures there was no pro independence majority
Awful idea - you get the exit pool boom at 10am and you then wait however long to see if it's right! No way.
The Exit Poll would have to be embargoed, wouldn't it?
Yes, good luck with that though, it'd leak in 10 minutes. I agree with Felix - when you've spent all day or indeed all month or all year on it, the last thing you want to do is go to bed! You want RESULTS!
Though weekend polling so we could have 2 days to vote, and close the poll at 1800, results the same evening would be nice.
The Nationalists only got 49% combined on the constituency vote which Alba ignored there.
Once you take account of the fact that the Greens got 34,990 votes on the constituency vote and most Scottish Green constituency voters oppose independence now as the below links shows, then even on total vote figures there was no pro independence majority
The difficulties though are far from being merely economic. They are cultural. How would you feel for example after throwing our borders open if we had a massive influx of sub saharan black christians and muslims, say for the sake of argument 15 million or so.....enough to shift the voting balance. Then with their voting power they start voting for a repeal of gay marriage. They are after all not known for their liberal views on homosexuality.
I did refer to the economic "and social" benefits/costs. And I'd be none too keen on 15m sub saharan christians and muslims coming over here and turning the clock back on LGBT rights. But (as per various posts on PT) I'm not arguing for the free movement of people between all countries, or for any of this to happen next week. I described the notion as utopian because it is. So is ending global poverty. So is peace on earth. Doesn't mean they aren't meaningful aspirations.
The Nationalists only got 49% combined on the constituency vote which Alba ignored there.
Once you take account of the fact that the Greens got 34,990 votes on the constituency vote and most Scottish Green constituency voters oppose independence now as the below links shows, then even on total vote figures there was no pro independence majority
The Law presently requires Parliamentary counts to start within four hours of the close of the poll. I was told that sitting MPs want the shortest possible period between dissolution and re-election to minimise the period for which they do not draw their parliamentary salary. As an Agent for both the County and PCC elections, I am today recovering from three days of intense activity and scarcely have the energy to complete this post!
Could work, but only if they made the Friday a bank holiday.
However, that’s not the worst idea either. Make the Thursday and the Friday of a General Election a bank holiday weekend, and then the markets won’t panic every five minutes according to Twitter reports and the disengaged will be pleased it’s happening.
But is NOT semi-informed hysterical speculation part of the warp and woof of capitalism - the Hidden Hand as it were?
How dare you tamper with the handiwork of the Almighty Market! AND blaspheme against the memory of Adam Smith!
And you call your self whatever you call yourself!!
The Law presently requires Parliamentary counts to start within four hours of the close of the poll. I was told that sitting MPs want the shortest possible period between dissolution and re-election to minimise the period for which they do not draw their parliamentary salary. As an Agent for both the County and PCC elections, I am today recovering from three days of intense activity and scarcely have the energy to complete this post!
It doesn't though require the count to be completed by any particular time and I'm pretty sure the ballot boxes from the Isles of Scilly aren't flown over to the mainland until the morning.
The Nationalists only got 49% combined on the constituency vote which Alba ignored there.
Once you take account of the fact that the Greens got 34,990 votes on the constituency vote and most Scottish Green constituency voters oppose independence now as the below links shows, then even on total vote figures there was no pro independence majority
Could work, but only if they made the Friday a bank holiday.
However, that’s not the worst idea either. Make the Thursday and the Friday of a General Election a bank holiday weekend, and then the markets won’t panic every five minutes according to Twitter reports and the disengaged will be pleased it’s happening.
But is NOT semi-informed hysterical speculation part of the warp and woof of capitalism - the Hidden Hand as it were?
How dare you tamper with the handiwork of the Almighty Market! AND blaspheme against the memory of Adam Smith!
And you call your self whatever you call yourself!!
The Nationalists only got 49% combined on the constituency vote which Alba ignored there.
Once you take account of the fact that the Greens got 34,990 votes on the constituency vote and most Scottish Green constituency voters oppose independence now as the below links shows, then even on total vote figures there was no pro independence majority
The Nationalists only got 49% combined on the constituency vote which Alba ignored there.
Once you take account of the fact that the Greens got 34,990 votes on the constituency vote and most Scottish Green constituency voters oppose independence now as the below links shows, then even on total vote figures there was no pro independence majority
Also on topic. Absolutely not. The 10pm start of vote counting is one of the best features of our general election. It can be really thrilling, such as 2015 and 2019 in recent history. 2010 was good as well becuase it was finally and end to Labour.
The Nationalists only got 49% combined on the constituency vote which Alba ignored there.
Once you take account of the fact that the Greens got 34,990 votes on the constituency vote and most Scottish Green constituency voters oppose independence now as the below links shows, then even on total vote figures there was no pro independence majority
Also agree with Shadsy on counting ballots starting the morning after the election ESPECIALLY when the polls close late in the evening AND counting is done by hand.
AND below are some thoughts I posted yesterday after most PBers had taken to the beds - some after doing excellent impersonations of mid-20th century Labour MP and cabinet minister GEORGE BROWN when he was particularly "tired and emotional" (see below after my screed)
Re: election management & observation, Cookie said something to the effect that, when he observed an election, things appeared to him quite well organized.
Indeed, that is generally the impression that most people come to - often to their surprise - when the actually observe an actual election being counted.
Have seen & heard it MANY times, at many elections in many places.
Folks come down to election central (wherever it is) with all kinds of concerns, opinions, criticisms. Then after they've been there a while, had the process(es) explained, asked questions and observed the work AND the workers, they come away rather impressed. AND with some appreciation of the requirements, complexities and challenges involved in conducting a free and fair election.
That's been my personal experience over 30 years plus, from Seattle to Dublin & back.
And, in case you can't tell, I have a TREMENDOUS respect for election workers. Who are some of the hardest working, most conscientious and dedicated people I've ever met. Ditto patriot. Also frank and forthright, in an line of work where "gotcha!" is always a possibility.
And were a politically-motivated mob can materialize, of whatever persuasion is behind in a very or even somewhat close election. Especially when the world is calling, crying, DEMANDING results half an hour ago, regardless of how many ballots or how many issues (like the COVID for instance) may crop up during the election and/or the count.
For example, if you're the Secretary of State of Georgia! One year, the opposition party is calling you a fraudster; the next, your OWN party's calling you a fraud AND a traitor.
And some people think it's all as easy as falling off a log.
The Nationalists only got 49% combined on the constituency vote which Alba ignored there.
Once you take account of the fact that the Greens got 34,990 votes on the constituency vote and most Scottish Green constituency voters oppose independence now as the below links shows, then even on total vote figures there was no pro independence majority
To change the mood a little (I've not been posing in the pub garden).
My weekly look at how Newham is doing in the Covid vaccination programme.
Among all those over 50, 62,490 have received a first dose and of those 22,637 have had a second dose. Total estimated population over 50 in Newham is 88,187 so that means 70.9% have had a first vaccination and 25.6% have had both leaving more than 25,000 people over 50 with no protection at all.
Among those aged over 70, 14,241 have received a first vaccination and of those 11,521 have received a second vaccination. Total estimated population over 70 in Newham is 17,785 so that means 81% have received a first vaccination and 64.8% have received both vaccinations. That also means there are 3,500 people over 70 in Newham who have no virus protection.
These figures don't concern me inasmuch as both Mrs Stodge and I will be having our second vaccinations before long but it reminds me just how many people the vaccination rollout programme hasn't reached in my part of the world.
The Nationalists only got 49% combined on the constituency vote which Alba ignored there.
Once you take account of the fact that the Greens got 34,990 votes on the constituency vote and most Scottish Green constituency voters oppose independence now as the below links shows, then even on total vote figures there was no pro independence majority
On topic - I agree. While there is some fun to the evening running into the night and then the morning, realistically, very few people care enough to sacrifice a night's sleep for the whole palaver. It would be just as much fun the next day and we wouldn't all feel groggy.
Off topic, will this be the first day this year on which no new cover deaths are announced? I predict it will. Although at the levels we're at it's all noise anyway, with notifications and denotifications cancelling each other out starting to outweigh actual real data.
The Nationalists only got 49% combined on the constituency vote which Alba ignored there.
Once you take account of the fact that the Greens got 34,990 votes on the constituency vote and most Scottish Green constituency voters oppose independence now as the below links shows, then even on total vote figures there was no pro independence majority
The Nationalists only got 49% combined on the constituency vote which Alba ignored there.
Once you take account of the fact that the Greens got 34,990 votes on the constituency vote and most Scottish Green constituency voters oppose independence now as the below links shows, then even on total vote figures there was no pro independence majority
To change the mood a little (I've not been posing in the pub garden).
My weekly look at how Newham is doing in the Covid vaccination programme.
Among all those over 50, 62,490 have received a first dose and of those 22,637 have had a second dose. Total estimated population over 50 in Newham is 88,187 so that means 70.9% have had a first vaccination and 25.6% have had both leaving more than 25,000 people over 50 with no protection at all.
Among those aged over 70, 14,241 have received a first vaccination and of those 11,521 have received a second vaccination. Total estimated population over 70 in Newham is 17,785 so that means 81% have received a first vaccination and 64.8% have received both vaccinations. That also means there are 3,500 people over 70 in Newham who have no virus protection.
These figures don't concern me inasmuch as both Mrs Stodge and I will be having our second vaccinations before long but it reminds me just how many people the vaccination rollout programme hasn't reached in my part of the world.
Please stop posting these lies. These people - assuming they exist - are choosing not to get vaccinated.
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However, that’s not the worst idea either. Make the Thursday and the Friday of a General Election a bank holiday weekend, and then the markets won’t panic every five minutes according to Twitter reports and the disengaged will be pleased it’s happening.
https://twitter.com/doglab/status/1391348538282500098
I hope the Irish courts give that bastard five years as a sharp lesson.
Bad news for Somerset and quite possibly England.
Edit - not helping Hants though!
Not the same after a good nights sleep, and no quicker or more accurate.
It's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see how it pays off for him
Polling day for me in London meant getting up at 5 am for an early morning delivery run which I’d start from 5.30, finish by 7.00 so I could leap in the car and make sure all the first tellers were in position (or alternatively do the first hour at one of them myself), then back to the committee room to set things up, make sure everything was under control and that people knew what they were doing. Time to snatch something for breakfast, then it was pretty much non stop rushing around, a mix of door knocking, delivery, organising and crisis management, through to close of poll at 10pm. The only bits of rest were spells of telling, when as the candidate you had to be smiling and chatting to those people who wanted to talk or ask questions on the way out.
Then a quick shower and change of clothes and it was off to the count. Usually the declarations wouldn’t come through until 3.00 or 4.00 am; by the time I got back from the count it was after a solid 24 hours of activity and exhaustion beckoned, although it was hard to get to sleep without checking the internet to see how friends and colleagues in other patches had done, and to catch the general news. It was incredibly tough.
After St Albans, they were up to -3 and they’re 4 up in Oxfordshire as it stands.
One way to do it would be to have the polls close at noon on the Friday.
A number of constituencies have always preferred to count "in the daylight". In 1997, I had worked in the St Ives ending up telling at Zennor at 9.30pm.
I had been on first shift since 7am and was shattered. I missed all the overnight fun but went down to St John's Hall in Penzance for the count for the constituency (which includes the Scillies). It was a glorious day both politically and meteorologically but it wouldn't have been the same at 3am the night before.
I have two comments - first, there would need to be adequate and proper security arrangements in place to ensure ballot boxes are unopened - this happens now with European election results as we know.
Second, and I don't know if this would compromise the above - would it be possible to do some initial work on establishing turnout numbers for example (from the marked registers) or separate (if necessary) ballots for the GE from any local election contests occurring at the same time? Very often, (though not last time), a GE will coincide with a round of local elections and that can slow the process considerably.
Counting national ballots on Friday and local ballots on Saturday seems eminently sensible.
Edit - and I do seem to remember a fair amount of market volatility over Trump’s actions, although I will admit I wasn’t paying attention.
What am I missing
'Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine? No, but I do it anyway because it's sterile and I like the taste.'
‘Organ is no Hammond.’
(By which presumably they mean Miles Hammond, the Gloucestershire T20 opener.)
I think it’s fair to say though that Hampshire have throughout this match batted if not like a Hammond, at least like a bunch of Wallies.
https://www.politico.eu/coronavirus-in-europe/
"Those were the elections that were, they're over, let 'em go"
Not much chance on here.
My first thought is trying to cast huge national generalisations on what were, especially in England, local contests, is going to be problematic at best.
I commented on Scotland last night - in Wales. too, Labour have defied some of the expectations (hopes) on here and have survived to carry on governing (I think Charles Hawtrey wasn't in that one).
As for England - the more you look at it, the more it defies generalisation and characterisation. There are many Englands, not only politically but culturally and socially. Boris Johnson speaks for some, perhaps many, of them but not all.
The results show a patchwork of different political Englands - why did the Conservatives do so well in Kent and East Sussex but so poorly in Surrey? Why did the LDs do so badly in Cornwall?
I presume the unsurprising answer is they were local elections and thus the opportunity for less than half the electorate to hold "the council" to account. Where the council was deemed to be performing well, the incumbent prospered, where they weren't, they didn't.
That's one layer over which others can be placed because the results are multi-dimensional (as they often are).
They may attract more Centrists from the LDs and Tories, but if Labour lose the Red Wall, the working class and the socialists, are they even Labour anymore?
Even Nass can’t put the hex on them like I do.
Imagine how much IPL franchises will pay me to praise their next opponents...
My pride was shortlived.
And although Euro production has accelerated, that's still the rate limiting step.
Having said that, France is trying a new wheeze- I think starting this week. Although the main booking is still age-restricted (55+ plus, or younger people with risk factors) they're introducing a kind of lastminute.com facility where anyone can book slots that are still available the night before.
https://twitter.com/GuillaumeRozier/status/1390239205511606274?s=19
Greens +81.
The one remaining area of LibDem strength is among posh remainers.
If there are many Englands, there are many Londons. Sadiq won though a ringing endorsement it was not. As long as you appreciate how little actual power the Mayor has, expecting bold and radical accomplishments is always going to leave you disappointed.
The Mayor is a high-profile low-responsibility post which suits a certain type of politician (the extrovert populist) but if you think you're going to change people's lives, you're in the wrong job.
Oddly enough, even though it hasn't happened yet, I think it's easier for a Mayor to be elected (you're different to the incumbent) than to be re-elected (everyone knows who you are and what you haven't done).
Bailey could call on the core Conservative vote in London (around 30% at higher turnout elections) and with turnout down four points, it got him to a respectable number (though not much different from Goldsmith in 2016).
With more "opportunity" to protest and less desire to go out and vote, Khan's vote peeled away at the margins so he ended up with just 40%. It's worth noting the Greens won the second preferences overall but Khan was always going to get more "seconds" than Bailey and in the end he won comfortably.
The Greens did okay - the LD performance was disastrous and there are questions for both parties going forward.
Perhaps the most revealing aspect was the strong Conservative performance in hitherto weak areas. As I noted with the East Ham Central by-election, the Conservative vote was well up. In that contest, the Labour vote fell from 2,775 to 2,297 but the Conservative vote jumped from 470 to 1,288 as the turnout rose to the mid-40s.
Looking ahead to next year, we have the London locals. The lack of change across the GLA suggests no particular political earthquake. Barnet looks safe for the Conservatives based on the East Barnet by-election and Richmond looks secure for the LDs. I'd be less confident about Kingston for the LDs but we'll see.
Of course, national political events may provide a different climate than the one we are currently experiencing but Labour are defending 1,100 seats and the Conservatives only 500 so the "expectation management" may be an interesting game.
Plenty of Conservative seats to capture in 2024 and 2025 on these numbers.
Once you take account of the fact that the Greens got 34,990 votes on the constituency vote and most Scottish Green constituency voters oppose independence now as the below links shows, then even on total vote figures there was no pro independence majority
https://archive.ph/eg2lt
"If you can dodge a WRENCH, you can dodge a ball!"
Ummmmm...
How dare you tamper with the handiwork of the Almighty Market! AND blaspheme against the memory of Adam Smith!
And you call your self whatever you call yourself!!
Such great analysis. Insightful.
And I have to ask what are you running scared of? I personally want the referendum done so the Scots are told the truth and can face reality
Waiting is the worst.
Because he's a petulant pillock.
You might as well invoke the monster under the bed.
First: “the fiscal transfer doesn’t exist”
And then: “even if it does exist, why should we want it”
https://twitter.com/staylorish/status/1391400406480302082?s=20
AND below are some thoughts I posted yesterday after most PBers had taken to the beds - some after doing excellent impersonations of mid-20th century Labour MP and cabinet minister GEORGE BROWN when he was particularly "tired and emotional" (see below after my screed)
Re: election management & observation, Cookie said something to the effect that, when he observed an election, things appeared to him quite well organized.
Indeed, that is generally the impression that most people come to - often to their surprise - when the actually observe an actual election being counted.
Have seen & heard it MANY times, at many elections in many places.
Folks come down to election central (wherever it is) with all kinds of concerns, opinions, criticisms. Then after they've been there a while, had the process(es) explained, asked questions and observed the work AND the workers, they come away rather impressed. AND with some appreciation of the requirements, complexities and challenges involved in conducting a free and fair election.
That's been my personal experience over 30 years plus, from Seattle to Dublin & back.
And, in case you can't tell, I have a TREMENDOUS respect for election workers. Who are some of the hardest working, most conscientious and dedicated people I've ever met. Ditto patriot. Also frank and forthright, in an line of work where "gotcha!" is always a possibility.
And were a politically-motivated mob can materialize, of whatever persuasion is behind in a very or even somewhat close election. Especially when the world is calling, crying, DEMANDING results half an hour ago, regardless of how many ballots or how many issues (like the COVID for instance) may crop up during the election and/or the count.
For example, if you're the Secretary of State of Georgia! One year, the opposition party is calling you a fraudster; the next, your OWN party's calling you a fraud AND a traitor.
And some people think it's all as easy as falling off a log.
BBC Rewind: Robin Day v George Brown
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-politics-29932208
My weekly look at how Newham is doing in the Covid vaccination programme.
Among all those over 50, 62,490 have received a first dose and of those 22,637 have had a second dose. Total estimated population over 50 in Newham is 88,187 so that means 70.9% have had a first vaccination and 25.6% have had both leaving more than 25,000 people over 50 with no protection at all.
Among those aged over 70, 14,241 have received a first vaccination and of those 11,521 have received a second vaccination. Total estimated population over 70 in Newham is 17,785 so that means 81% have received a first vaccination and 64.8% have received both vaccinations. That also means there are 3,500 people over 70 in Newham who have no virus protection.
These figures don't concern me inasmuch as both Mrs Stodge and I will be having our second vaccinations before long but it reminds me just how many people the vaccination rollout programme hasn't reached in my part of the world.
But then in fairness "Scotland's Future was packed chock full of meaningless shibboleths
Off topic, will this be the first day this year on which no new cover deaths are announced? I predict it will. Although at the levels we're at it's all noise anyway, with notifications and denotifications cancelling each other out starting to outweigh actual real data.
Which means how each side proceeds from now is a matter of tactics.