God I’m bored. I’ve run out of things to say about the locals, the mayoralty, Scotland. It’s ANOTHER grey wet day, but not even interestingly cold. My favourite marble dildo hangs listless in my hand. I’ve given up heroin and it’s too early to drink
Pfffff
Can you remember from your lurker days what year it was SeanT went to Namibia and suffered a bout of gin poisoning? Trying to date my introduction to the site, and that was one of the first things I read here.
I remember those comments vividly. He nearly died in a hotel in the Namib desert. January 2009
God I’m bored. I’ve run out of things to say about the locals, the mayoralty, Scotland. It’s ANOTHER grey wet day, but not even interestingly cold. My favourite marble dildo hangs listless in my hand. I’ve given up heroin and it’s too early to drink
Pfffff
Can you remember from your lurker days what year it was SeanT went to Namibia and suffered a bout of gin poisoning? Trying to date my introduction to the site, and that was one of the first things I read here.
I remember those comments vividly. He nearly died in a hotel in the Namib desert. January 2009
God I’m bored. I’ve run out of things to say about the locals, the mayoralty, Scotland. It’s ANOTHER grey wet day, but not even interestingly cold. My favourite marble dildo hangs listless in my hand. I’ve given up heroin and it’s too early to drink
Pfffff
Gone half two at the weekend and to early to drink? are you mad man
The results are in from the two new unitaries in Northamptonshire, I've just observed.
The mismanagement which caused the previous county council to be abolished and local government reorganised seems not to have hurt the Conservatives in either new authority. They have romped home.
Elsewhere, the Conservatives have retained their dominant position in Devon, and created one in Cornwall by stripping the Liberal Democrats of most of their councillors. More evidence that the future of the latter party, if it has one, is likely to be built in the South East rather than the South West.
WRT NEV shares - the correct analysis is to compare like with like - so where were these figures in recent years? Well, in 2019, they showed a tie for LAB and CON at 28% each, but every leader has changed and 25 % went to others. Before that? 2018? Another tie. 2016? 32% 31%.
I think the tories do need to be careful...i think all.these northern votes they are racking up are soft. If Labour actually talk about issues they care about in a way that doesn't accuse them of being thick racists, and eventually the Tories will have to turn the magic money tap off...I think they could easily return to Labour very quickly.
While we see in places like Surrey many are pissed off with the Tories.and won't immediately return while Boris is in charge.
At the moment Brexit and vaccine gives Boris the fair wind.
I think that is exactly right. Boris has certainly created a winning 40% coalition of voters that is significantly different in composition to previous winning Tory coalitions.
Like you, I suspect that holding on to those new voters in places like Hartlepool will be tough unless Brexit delivers something positive to them quite quickly.
I also think that the Tories might discover that winning back former Tory-inclined remainers is not going to be easy at all.
It'll be easier for Johnson to refuse another referendum if the unionist parties have won an overall majority of votes, even if they haven't done so in terms of seats. At the moment they're on about 51.5% of the constituency vote.
If Unionist parties win more votes than separatist ones, then that's all Johnson will need.
It's a good point, the SNP are basically relying (wholly) on some mathematical jiggery-pokery from the Greens in the list to get them over the line.
They've come up short in both votes and seats.
bollox, you raving halfwit the SNP does not equal independence support.
Any comment on the Alba performance? In line with your predictions and expectations?
Sounds like they will not do very well, given the fact that they were excluded from all MSM and any debates etc and only appeared 5 weeks ago it is not unexpected. Will not be going away though and they have MP's and councillors and so can build for next election.
God I’m bored. I’ve run out of things to say about the locals, the mayoralty, Scotland. It’s ANOTHER grey wet day, but not even interestingly cold. My favourite marble dildo hangs listless in my hand. I’ve given up heroin and it’s too early to drink
Mark Drakeford is HOT isn’t he? I’ve always respected him as a politician and a ‘canny operator’, but I’ve never really understood just what a sexy human being he is. There’s a sensual animality about him. Like a prowling tiger.
As a heterosexual male who usually prefers younger women there aren’t many elderly male Welsh politicians I’d LOVE to get naked with, but La Drakeford?? Ffffffwoo. FETCH THE ICEPACK, I’M BURNING UP
In London, it looks as if Shaun Bailey will lose by about 44/45 to 56/55, which is a more creditable performance than seemed likely.
And would give the lie to the idea that London is lost to the blues in an ocean of woke liberalism yearning for the sunlit uphills of Angela von de Leydenland.
These jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people do tend to be nonsense, don't they?
Sadly for Labour proving only too true......
That's right, Felix. Jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people are only accurate when made by Tories.
You mean like the left description immortalised by tim of PBTories..
Afore my time. Bit of an "acid wit" by all accounts.
A very astute political punter, and in life after PB a withering critic of Corbyn and the Labour left.
SeanT. and Plato could wind him up like a $5 watch, and did he bite.
Really? So desperate were they to spite him that both of those posters had to resort to posting details of his real identity on this very site.
IIRC - I was just a humble lurker - the great SeanT only got punchy with tim because Tim sort-of doxxed SeanT, referencing his statements on another site
I miss them both. Titans, they were, we shall not see their like again. Now we are reduced to accountants like ‘kinabalu’. Sic transit Gloria Mundi
My recollection is that SeanT got miffed because tim was taking the piss out of the size of his flat. But agreed - the pair of them are the Mozarts and Beethovens to today's Ed Sheerans.
God I’m bored. I’ve run out of things to say about the locals, the mayoralty, Scotland. It’s ANOTHER grey wet day, but not even interestingly cold. My favourite marble dildo hangs listless in my hand. I’ve given up heroin and it’s too early to drink
Chadsmoor ward of Staffs CC has voted Tory for the first time ever.
This is my ward. It was safe Labour.
It wasn’t even close this time.
ETA - the Tories have also picked up one of the outlying wards of Stoke that’s not in the UA, and Brereton and Ravenhill in Rugeley. Absolute massacre for Labour outside Stafford itself (one ward) and Burton (two). The only other Labour seat is Leek South.
In London, it looks as if Shaun Bailey will lose by about 44/45 to 56/55, which is a more creditable performance than seemed likely.
And would give the lie to the idea that London is lost to the blues in an ocean of woke liberalism yearning for the sunlit uphills of Angela von de Leydenland.
These jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people do tend to be nonsense, don't they?
Sadly for Labour proving only too true......
That's right, Felix. Jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people are only accurate when made by Tories.
You mean like the left description immortalised by tim of PBTories..
Afore my time. Bit of an "acid wit" by all accounts.
A very astute political punter, and in life after PB a withering critic of Corbyn and the Labour left.
SeanT. and Plato could wind him up like a $5 watch, and did he bite.
Really? So desperate were they to spite him that both of those posters had to resort to posting details of his real identity on this very site.
IIRC - I was just a humble lurker - the great SeanT only got punchy with tim because Tim sort-of doxxed SeanT, referencing his statements on another site
I miss them both. Titans, they were, we shall not see their like again. Now we are reduced to accountants like ‘kinabalu’. Sic transit Gloria Mundi
The idea that tim was innocent in all that is laughable.
I think you might be surprised to hear what Tim did to others - including those on the far left of his party.
Round 1 Dan Norris (LAB): 84,434 (33.4%) Samuel Williams (CON): 72,415 (28.6%) Jerome Thomas (GRN): 54,919 (21.7%) Stephen Williams (LD): 41,193 (16.3%)
Why is Labour performing well in Wales because of a vaccine boost but the Tories not so in England?
Tories aren't performing well in England?
No, I meant why is the Tory Party's good performance in England not explained away by the vaccines?
I don't think anyone denies the Tories are getting a well-deserved vaccine boost.
So are Labour in Wales and SNP in Scotland. Fact.
Please don't counter me with Boris personally invented, bought and injected the vaccines again. I don't believe that. They have all had a polling boost, fact!
But Boris's government procured the vaccines.
If you don't believe that, then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales? 🤦♂️
I am giving the Johnson Government credit for vaccine procurement on their watch. You try to turn that into Boris Johnson personally bidding and winning on a WHO version of eBay against the French and Germans which is patently untrue.
I am conceding also that Johnson has had a vaccine polling bounce, you are countering that by saying you think he should have one in Wales and Scotland too. Well it hasn't happened like that, so I don't see the point you are making.
The incumbents in England, Wales and Scotland have seen a vaccine bounce. What more is there to say? Except "bounce" implies stuff goes down as well as up, and that applies to all three countries of the UK that voted on Thursday.
Boris's government did bid on and win the procurement race against the French, Germans and every other major government in the entire planet.
If you don't think Boris's government procured the vaccines then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales?
Did Drakeford set up his own vaccine taskforce? Were they procured by unicorns? Wishful thinking? Did they grown on roses?
That's not the argument though is it? Johnson got a vaccine bounce, Drakeford got a vaccine bounce and Nippy got a vaccine bounce. Fact.
You're whining on that Drakeford and Nippy don't deserve their bounce, because Boris personally bought the vaccines on their behalf. So what? My argument is it's a one off benefit that probably won't last the test of time for any of them.
I think the tories do need to be careful...i think all.these northern votes they are racking up are soft. If Labour actually talk about issues they care about in a way that doesn't accuse them of being thick racists, and eventually the Tories will have to turn the magic money tap off...I think they could easily return to Labour very quickly.
While we see in places like Surrey many are pissed off with the Tories.and won't immediately return while Boris is in charge.
At the moment Brexit and vaccine gives Boris the fair wind.
I think that is exactly right. Boris has certainly created a winning 40% coalition of voters that is significantly different in composition to previous winning Tory coalitions.
Like you, I suspect that holding on to those new voters in places like Hartlepool will be tough unless Brexit delivers something positive to them quite quickly.
I also think that the Tories might discover that winning back former Tory-inclined remainers is not going to be easy at all.
One thing the Tories have going for them, that Labour don't. They have the likes of Dishy Rishi waiting in the wings.
He is the perfect candidate for Tories to win back your Surrey remainer types. Plus detoxifies the lazy accusation that Boris is a racist, therefore all Tories are. And despite being uber wealthy, he does seem to speak human, unlike a Jacob Ress Mogg type Tory, thus doesn't instantly piss off Northern working class types.
Mark Drakeford is HOT isn’t he? I’ve always respected him as a politician and a ‘canny operator’, but I’ve never really understood just what a sexy human being he is. There’s a sensual animality about him. Like a prowling tiger.
As a heterosexual male who usually prefers younger women there aren’t many elderly male Welsh politicians I’d LOVE to get naked with, but La Drakeford?? Ffffffwoo. FETCH THE ICEPACK, I’M BURNING UP
Would be just like you, to fawn all over a pretty boy like The Drake.
Can still remember how you were so smitten with Sarah Palin!
In London, it looks as if Shaun Bailey will lose by about 44/45 to 56/55, which is a more creditable performance than seemed likely.
And would give the lie to the idea that London is lost to the blues in an ocean of woke liberalism yearning for the sunlit uphills of Angela von de Leydenland.
These jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people do tend to be nonsense, don't they?
Sadly for Labour proving only too true......
That's right, Felix. Jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people are only accurate when made by Tories.
You mean like the left description immortalised by tim of PBTories..
Afore my time. Bit of an "acid wit" by all accounts.
A very astute political punter, and in life after PB a withering critic of Corbyn and the Labour left.
SeanT. and Plato could wind him up like a $5 watch, and did he bite.
Really? So desperate were they to spite him that both of those posters had to resort to posting details of his real identity on this very site.
IIRC - I was just a humble lurker - the great SeanT only got punchy with tim because Tim sort-of doxxed SeanT, referencing his statements on another site
I miss them both. Titans, they were, we shall not see their like again. Now we are reduced to accountants like ‘kinabalu’. Sic transit Gloria Mundi
The idea that tim was innocent in all that is laughable.
I think you might be surprised to hear what Tim did to others - including those on the far left of his party.
He really is no loss to this board
Disagree. No interest in what he did to whom, but he was very astute, very well informed and very, very funny.
“Boris will refuse a referendum. As a result, support for independence will increase. This will make it politically impossible for Boris or any other PM to grant a referendum. Support for independence will increase further. Then at some point, there will be a fracture.”
The results are in from the two new unitaries in Northamptonshire, I've just observed.
The mismanagement which caused the previous county council to be abolished and local government reorganised seems not to have hurt the Conservatives in either new authority. They have romped home.
Elsewhere, the Conservatives have retained their dominant position in Devon, and created one in Cornwall by stripping the Liberal Democrats of most of their councillors. More evidence that the future of the latter party, if it has one, is likely to be built in the South East rather than the South West.
IIRC the courts banned Auberon Waugh's manifesto, as it referred to pending trial of Jeremy Thorpe.
No, just a young person reading the Eye at the time! The link is to Auberon Waugh's article (but rather confusingly presented as if Alexander Waugh's). Extract
"Mr Carman, Thorpe’s barrister, applied to the Divisional Court to have me committed to prison and my manifesto banned, but the Lord Chief Justice threw it out. On appeal, Lord Denning reinstated the ban, dismissing my counsel’s arguments with contumely, and saying he had been reading Private Eye and was in no doubt of my intention to pervert the course of justice."
Mark Drakeford is HOT isn’t he? I’ve always respected him as a politician and a ‘canny operator’, but I’ve never really understood just what a sexy human being he is. There’s a sensual animality about him. Like a prowling tiger.
As a heterosexual male who usually prefers younger women there aren’t many elderly male Welsh politicians I’d LOVE to get naked with, but La Drakeford?? Ffffffwoo. FETCH THE ICEPACK, I’M BURNING UP
And that voice. Like being smothered in the warmest tenderest love.
Here’s @kevverage calling out the bullshit: Sturgeon isn’t prepared for a referendum, she promised she wouldn’t prioritise it & she would, on current polling, lose it. The pretence that she was ready for indyref2 dominated the last parliament. We can’t let it happen again
In London, it looks as if Shaun Bailey will lose by about 44/45 to 56/55, which is a more creditable performance than seemed likely.
And would give the lie to the idea that London is lost to the blues in an ocean of woke liberalism yearning for the sunlit uphills of Angela von de Leydenland.
These jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people do tend to be nonsense, don't they?
Sadly for Labour proving only too true......
That's right, Felix. Jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people are only accurate when made by Tories.
You mean like the left description immortalised by tim of PBTories..
Afore my time. Bit of an "acid wit" by all accounts.
A very astute political punter, and in life after PB a withering critic of Corbyn and the Labour left.
SeanT. and Plato could wind him up like a $5 watch, and did he bite.
Really? So desperate were they to spite him that both of those posters had to resort to posting details of his real identity on this very site.
IIRC - I was just a humble lurker - the great SeanT only got punchy with tim because Tim sort-of doxxed SeanT, referencing his statements on another site
I miss them both. Titans, they were, we shall not see their like again. Now we are reduced to accountants like ‘kinabalu’. Sic transit Gloria Mundi
The idea that tim was innocent in all that is laughable.
I think you might be surprised to hear what Tim did to others - including those on the far left of his party.
He really is no loss to this board
Yes. He did have quite a nasty side. He and Seant gave each other as good as they got. But tim could be a bully, here and on other sites. I heard the gory detail
Why is Labour performing well in Wales because of a vaccine boost but the Tories not so in England?
Tories aren't performing well in England?
No, I meant why is the Tory Party's good performance in England not explained away by the vaccines?
I don't think anyone denies the Tories are getting a well-deserved vaccine boost.
So are Labour in Wales and SNP in Scotland. Fact.
Please don't counter me with Boris personally invented, bought and injected the vaccines again. I don't believe that. They have all had a polling boost, fact!
But Boris's government procured the vaccines.
If you don't believe that, then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales? 🤦♂️
I am giving the Johnson Government credit for vaccine procurement on their watch. You try to turn that into Boris Johnson personally bidding and winning on a WHO version of eBay against the French and Germans which is patently untrue.
I am conceding also that Johnson has had a vaccine polling bounce, you are countering that by saying you think he should have one in Wales and Scotland too. Well it hasn't happened like that, so I don't see the point you are making.
The incumbents in England, Wales and Scotland have seen a vaccine bounce. What more is there to say? Except "bounce" implies stuff goes down as well as up, and that applies to all three countries of the UK that voted on Thursday.
Boris's government did bid on and win the procurement race against the French, Germans and every other major government in the entire planet.
If you don't think Boris's government procured the vaccines then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales?
Did Drakeford set up his own vaccine taskforce? Were they procured by unicorns? Wishful thinking? Did they grown on roses?
That's not the argument though is it? Johnson got a vaccine bounce, Drakeford got a vaccine bounce and Nippy got a vaccine bounce. Fact.
You're whining on that Drakeford and Nippy don't deserve their bounce, because Boris personally bought the vaccines on their behalf. So what? My argument is it's a one off benefit that probably won't last the test of time for any of them.
I'm not whining, I'm saying Drakeford and Sturgeon are lucky to be getting reflected glory from Boris's great leadership.
The results are in from the two new unitaries in Northamptonshire, I've just observed.
The mismanagement which caused the previous county council to be abolished and local government reorganised seems not to have hurt the Conservatives in either new authority. They have romped home.
Elsewhere, the Conservatives have retained their dominant position in Devon, and created one in Cornwall by stripping the Liberal Democrats of most of their councillors. More evidence that the future of the latter party, if it has one, is likely to be built in the South East rather than the South West.
IIRC the courts banned Auberon Waugh's manifesto, as it referred to pending trial of Jeremy Thorpe.
No, just a young person reading the Eye at the time! The link is to Auberon Waugh's article (but rather confusingly presented as if Alexander Waugh's). Extract
"Mr Carman, Thorpe’s barrister, applied to the Divisional Court to have me committed to prison and my manifesto banned, but the Lord Chief Justice threw it out. On appeal, Lord Denning reinstated the ban, dismissing my counsel’s arguments with contumely, and saying he had been reading Private Eye and was in no doubt of my intention to pervert the course of justice."
Lord Denning made Judge Dred look like Oliver Wendell Holmes.
His handing of the Profumo Affair in particular Stephen Ward was a SERIOUS parody if not perversion of justice.
I’m going to have a really long wank about Mark Drakeford!!!
Oh, please.
Away and buy yourself a Kindle copy of Dogging Sites in Brycheiniog and Sir Trefaldwyn and plan your next holiday while we wait for the Scottish list results to come out.
In London, it looks as if Shaun Bailey will lose by about 44/45 to 56/55, which is a more creditable performance than seemed likely.
And would give the lie to the idea that London is lost to the blues in an ocean of woke liberalism yearning for the sunlit uphills of Angela von de Leydenland.
These jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people do tend to be nonsense, don't they?
Sadly for Labour proving only too true......
That's right, Felix. Jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people are only accurate when made by Tories.
You mean like the left description immortalised by tim of PBTories..
Afore my time. Bit of an "acid wit" by all accounts.
A very astute political punter, and in life after PB a withering critic of Corbyn and the Labour left.
SeanT. and Plato could wind him up like a $5 watch, and did he bite.
Really? So desperate were they to spite him that both of those posters had to resort to posting details of his real identity on this very site.
IIRC - I was just a humble lurker - the great SeanT only got punchy with tim because Tim sort-of doxxed SeanT, referencing his statements on another site
I miss them both. Titans, they were, we shall not see their like again. Now we are reduced to accountants like ‘kinabalu’. Sic transit Gloria Mundi
I blush!
And I've done a "blush" emoticon too. Very pleased with that.
Elections fact for today: In 2015 David Cameron’s Conservatives won the UK election with a manifesto commitment to hold a Brexit Referendum. They went onto deliver on that pledge. They did so having won 36.9% of the vote. https://twitter.com/AndrewWilson/status/1390953859078569984
Cameron's majority gave him the power to do so.
Sturgeon's gives her the power to moan about it some more.
I should think that the SNP would like nothing more than the optic of old-Etonian Tory Boris decreeing from London that he won't allow the Scottish people to have a vote on independence.
I think too many Tories seem to lose sight of the fact that the power to do exactly as they please for 5 years with an 80 seat majority comes courtesy of our electoral system rather than courtesy of the voters.
The results are in from the two new unitaries in Northamptonshire, I've just observed.
The mismanagement which caused the previous county council to be abolished and local government reorganised seems not to have hurt the Conservatives in either new authority. They have romped home.
Elsewhere, the Conservatives have retained their dominant position in Devon, and created one in Cornwall by stripping the Liberal Democrats of most of their councillors. More evidence that the future of the latter party, if it has one, is likely to be built in the South East rather than the South West.
IIRC the courts banned Auberon Waugh's manifesto, as it referred to pending trial of Jeremy Thorpe.
No, just a young person reading the Eye at the time! The link is to Auberon Waugh's article (but rather confusingly presented as if Alexander Waugh's). Extract
"Mr Carman, Thorpe’s barrister, applied to the Divisional Court to have me committed to prison and my manifesto banned, but the Lord Chief Justice threw it out. On appeal, Lord Denning reinstated the ban, dismissing my counsel’s arguments with contumely, and saying he had been reading Private Eye and was in no doubt of my intention to pervert the course of justice."
Interesting how blatantly homophobic Private Eye's thing against Thorpe looks in the modern age.
Why is Labour performing well in Wales because of a vaccine boost but the Tories not so in England?
Tories aren't performing well in England?
No, I meant why is the Tory Party's good performance in England not explained away by the vaccines?
I don't think anyone denies the Tories are getting a well-deserved vaccine boost.
So are Labour in Wales and SNP in Scotland. Fact.
Please don't counter me with Boris personally invented, bought and injected the vaccines again. I don't believe that. They have all had a polling boost, fact!
But Boris's government procured the vaccines.
If you don't believe that, then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales? 🤦♂️
I am giving the Johnson Government credit for vaccine procurement on their watch. You try to turn that into Boris Johnson personally bidding and winning on a WHO version of eBay against the French and Germans which is patently untrue.
I am conceding also that Johnson has had a vaccine polling bounce, you are countering that by saying you think he should have one in Wales and Scotland too. Well it hasn't happened like that, so I don't see the point you are making.
The incumbents in England, Wales and Scotland have seen a vaccine bounce. What more is there to say? Except "bounce" implies stuff goes down as well as up, and that applies to all three countries of the UK that voted on Thursday.
Boris's government did bid on and win the procurement race against the French, Germans and every other major government in the entire planet.
If you don't think Boris's government procured the vaccines then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales?
Did Drakeford set up his own vaccine taskforce? Were they procured by unicorns? Wishful thinking? Did they grown on roses?
That's not the argument though is it? Johnson got a vaccine bounce, Drakeford got a vaccine bounce and Nippy got a vaccine bounce. Fact.
You're whining on that Drakeford and Nippy don't deserve their bounce, because Boris personally bought the vaccines on their behalf. So what? My argument is it's a one off benefit that probably won't last the test of time for any of them.
I'm not whining, I'm saying Drakeford and Sturgeon are lucky to be getting reflected glory from Boris's great leadership.
Great leadership? Titter ye not!
Boris was lucky to get his wallpaper too, but you weren't bitching about that.
Tories down 2 and Lib Dems up 1 on Woking. Leaves the council precariously balanced:
Con - 13 Lib Dem - 12 Lab - 3 Ind - 2
Unsurprisingly its the posher parts of the area that are going Lib Dem.
Hmmm. The tories have put a hell of a lot of money into the town recently. Think we’ll see little in terms of progress with the dems ..
Err, the Tories in Woking have borrowed a lot of money recently.
They have...but regardless good to see the investment, particularly with Victoria square. Wolsey refurb etc. Some of that it paying off particular with Gordon Ramsay setting up in town..
Tories hold Tunbridge Wells. Surprisingly close though.
Con 25 (-6) LD 12 (+4) Oth 6 (+1) Lab 5 (+1)
Not what I would have guessed. Just goes to show.
Nah, I’d expect the Lib Dems to do well there. Here’s their core vote in Woking:
Fair enough. Just musing on how lack of local knowledge leads to stereotyping of random places. Heard a lot say they couldn't really believe the results on Teesside. I would have picked Tunbridge Wells for 90 % Tory council. With a couple of LDs/Indies. Or even a Green maybe. That they have a Labour group at all comes as a shock!.
Tories down 2 and Lib Dems up 1 on Woking. Leaves the council precariously balanced:
Con - 13 Lib Dem - 12 Lab - 3 Ind - 2
Unsurprisingly its the posher parts of the area that are going Lib Dem.
Hmmm. The tories have put a hell of a lot of money into the town recently. Think we’ll see little in terms of progress with the dems ..
Err, the Tories in Woking have borrowed a lot of money recently.
They have...but regardless good to see the investment, particularly with Victoria square. Wolsey refurb etc. Some of that it paying off particular with Gordon Ramsay setting up in town..
In London, it looks as if Shaun Bailey will lose by about 44/45 to 56/55, which is a more creditable performance than seemed likely.
And would give the lie to the idea that London is lost to the blues in an ocean of woke liberalism yearning for the sunlit uphills of Angela von de Leydenland.
These jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people do tend to be nonsense, don't they?
Sadly for Labour proving only too true......
That's right, Felix. Jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people are only accurate when made by Tories.
You mean like the left description immortalised by tim of PBTories..
Afore my time. Bit of an "acid wit" by all accounts.
A very astute political punter, and in life after PB a withering critic of Corbyn and the Labour left.
SeanT. and Plato could wind him up like a $5 watch, and did he bite.
Really? So desperate were they to spite him that both of those posters had to resort to posting details of his real identity on this very site.
IIRC - I was just a humble lurker - the great SeanT only got punchy with tim because Tim sort-of doxxed SeanT, referencing his statements on another site
I miss them both. Titans, they were, we shall not see their like again. Now we are reduced to accountants like ‘kinabalu’. Sic transit Gloria Mundi
The idea that tim was innocent in all that is laughable.
I think you might be surprised to hear what Tim did to others - including those on the far left of his party.
He really is no loss to this board
Yes. He did have quite a nasty side. He and Seant gave each other as good as they got. But tim could be a bully, here and on other sites. I heard the gory detail
His wit and insight is still missed, however
Not by me it isn't - he was a vile shit stain of an individual
Elections fact for today: In 2015 David Cameron’s Conservatives won the UK election with a manifesto commitment to hold a Brexit Referendum. They went onto deliver on that pledge. They did so having won 36.9% of the vote. https://twitter.com/AndrewWilson/status/1390953859078569984
Cameron's majority gave him the power to do so.
Sturgeon's gives her the power to moan about it some more.
I should think that the SNP would like nothing more than the optic of old-Etonian Tory Boris decreeing from London that he won't allow the Scottish people to have a vote on independence.
I think too many Tories seem to lose sight of the fact that the power to do exactly as they please for 5 years with an 80 seat majority comes courtesy of our electoral system rather than courtesy of the voters.
It comes courtesy of the voters voting via the electoral system.
Had any other party come close to the Tories they wouldn't have got that majority.
Mark Drakeford is HOT isn’t he? I’ve always respected him as a politician and a ‘canny operator’, but I’ve never really understood just what a sexy human being he is. There’s a sensual animality about him. Like a prowling tiger.
As a heterosexual male who usually prefers younger women there aren’t many elderly male Welsh politicians I’d LOVE to get naked with, but La Drakeford?? Ffffffwoo. FETCH THE ICEPACK, I’M BURNING UP
In London, it looks as if Shaun Bailey will lose by about 44/45 to 56/55, which is a more creditable performance than seemed likely.
And would give the lie to the idea that London is lost to the blues in an ocean of woke liberalism yearning for the sunlit uphills of Angela von de Leydenland.
These jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people do tend to be nonsense, don't they?
Sadly for Labour proving only too true......
That's right, Felix. Jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people are only accurate when made by Tories.
You mean like the left description immortalised by tim of PBTories..
Afore my time. Bit of an "acid wit" by all accounts.
A very astute political punter, and in life after PB a withering critic of Corbyn and the Labour left.
SeanT. and Plato could wind him up like a $5 watch, and did he bite.
Really? So desperate were they to spite him that both of those posters had to resort to posting details of his real identity on this very site.
IIRC - I was just a humble lurker - the great SeanT only got punchy with tim because Tim sort-of doxxed SeanT, referencing his statements on another site
I miss them both. Titans, they were, we shall not see their like again. Now we are reduced to accountants like ‘kinabalu’. Sic transit Gloria Mundi
The idea that tim was innocent in all that is laughable.
I think you might be surprised to hear what Tim did to others - including those on the far left of his party.
He really is no loss to this board
Not saying he was innocent - just questioning the initial 'who wound up whom' proposition.
Here’s @kevverage calling out the bullshit: Sturgeon isn’t prepared for a referendum, she promised she wouldn’t prioritise it & she would, on current polling, lose it. The pretence that she was ready for indyref2 dominated the last parliament. We can’t let it happen again
Owen Jones Rose @OwenJones84 · 1h Labour figures are now saying that “tackling injustice and inequality” is the party’s mission. But that’s an abstraction to most voters: you need to talk about concrete things that matter to people’s lives - like housing, jobs, pay, services - and what you’ll do about them
Blimey, Jones has said something that is a correct analysis.
Labour should ban the words 'social justice', 'injustice', 'inequality' etc. from use by the party.
I doubt many voters have a clue what the party means by them, but many will have a suspicion it involves loads of bonkers pc stuff and/or giving free money to people they think are undeserving.
Labour should ban words like "inequality" and "injustice" because voters don't have a clue what they mean? I doubt voters really are that thick.
But if they are, what do you suggest we talk to them about instead - their favourite shampoo?
Owen Jones gave some non-shampoo examples. As I posted yesterday they should talk about pay and conditions - specifically the gig economy stuff, lack of security and so on.
"You'll no longer be one pay cheque away from destitution and losing the roof over your head" is far more direct and promising than "we will tackle inequality wherever we see it & fight for social justice for all."
And stop banging on about how it is terrible that some people are rich. My experience of voters is they don't really care and just want to know whether their own lives will steadily improve rather than go backwards and especially whether their kids will be alright. Most don't sit around in spasms of jealously and angst that there are rich people in London.
As a related aside, Philip Gould always used to say one of Labour's problems was it never talked about people's aspirations.
Ok, so I agree on the messaging. Make it real. And put forward policies targeted specifically in the material interests of "working people". Labour have tbf done this to varying degrees in every GE in my lifetime, particularly the last 2.
But let's be clear, the notion of big new policies in the clear material interests of everybody - all winners, no losers - is in reality a nonsense. Politics is about choices.
Don't agree. Who are/were the losers from the creation of the Open University?
Why is Labour performing well in Wales because of a vaccine boost but the Tories not so in England?
Tories aren't performing well in England?
No, I meant why is the Tory Party's good performance in England not explained away by the vaccines?
I don't think anyone denies the Tories are getting a well-deserved vaccine boost.
So are Labour in Wales and SNP in Scotland. Fact.
Please don't counter me with Boris personally invented, bought and injected the vaccines again. I don't believe that. They have all had a polling boost, fact!
But Boris's government procured the vaccines.
If you don't believe that, then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales? 🤦♂️
I am giving the Johnson Government credit for vaccine procurement on their watch. You try to turn that into Boris Johnson personally bidding and winning on a WHO version of eBay against the French and Germans which is patently untrue.
I am conceding also that Johnson has had a vaccine polling bounce, you are countering that by saying you think he should have one in Wales and Scotland too. Well it hasn't happened like that, so I don't see the point you are making.
The incumbents in England, Wales and Scotland have seen a vaccine bounce. What more is there to say? Except "bounce" implies stuff goes down as well as up, and that applies to all three countries of the UK that voted on Thursday.
Boris's government did bid on and win the procurement race against the French, Germans and every other major government in the entire planet.
If you don't think Boris's government procured the vaccines then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales?
Did Drakeford set up his own vaccine taskforce? Were they procured by unicorns? Wishful thinking? Did they grown on roses?
That's not the argument though is it? Johnson got a vaccine bounce, Drakeford got a vaccine bounce and Nippy got a vaccine bounce. Fact.
You're whining on that Drakeford and Nippy don't deserve their bounce, because Boris personally bought the vaccines on their behalf. So what? My argument is it's a one off benefit that probably won't last the test of time for any of them.
I'm not whining, I'm saying Drakeford and Sturgeon are lucky to be getting reflected glory from Boris's great leadership.
Great leadership? Titter ye not!
Boris was lucky to get his wallpaper too, but you weren't bitching about that.
Yes great leadership. Procuring the vaccines before any other major nation in the planet during a global pandemic was fantastic leadership.
I couldn't care less about wallpaper so long as I'm not the one paying for it. Blair charging £650k of wallpaper to the taxpayer was a story, Boris getting his privately paid for is not.
Btw, I know you're all delighted about woke Labour getting trounced (again) but the cultural assault won't stop. They will double down. They always do.
So remember, there's an infinite number of genders, you're all racist and Britain is the worst country in the world.
Why is Labour performing well in Wales because of a vaccine boost but the Tories not so in England?
Tories aren't performing well in England?
No, I meant why is the Tory Party's good performance in England not explained away by the vaccines?
I don't think anyone denies the Tories are getting a well-deserved vaccine boost.
So are Labour in Wales and SNP in Scotland. Fact.
Please don't counter me with Boris personally invented, bought and injected the vaccines again. I don't believe that. They have all had a polling boost, fact!
But Boris's government procured the vaccines.
If you don't believe that, then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales? 🤦♂️
I am giving the Johnson Government credit for vaccine procurement on their watch. You try to turn that into Boris Johnson personally bidding and winning on a WHO version of eBay against the French and Germans which is patently untrue.
I am conceding also that Johnson has had a vaccine polling bounce, you are countering that by saying you think he should have one in Wales and Scotland too. Well it hasn't happened like that, so I don't see the point you are making.
The incumbents in England, Wales and Scotland have seen a vaccine bounce. What more is there to say? Except "bounce" implies stuff goes down as well as up, and that applies to all three countries of the UK that voted on Thursday.
Boris's government did bid on and win the procurement race against the French, Germans and every other major government in the entire planet.
If you don't think Boris's government procured the vaccines then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales?
Did Drakeford set up his own vaccine taskforce? Were they procured by unicorns? Wishful thinking? Did they grown on roses?
That's not the argument though is it? Johnson got a vaccine bounce, Drakeford got a vaccine bounce and Nippy got a vaccine bounce. Fact.
You're whining on that Drakeford and Nippy don't deserve their bounce, because Boris personally bought the vaccines on their behalf. So what? My argument is it's a one off benefit that probably won't last the test of time for any of them.
I'm not whining, I'm saying Drakeford and Sturgeon are lucky to be getting reflected glory from Boris's great leadership.
Great leadership? Titter ye not!
Boris was lucky to get his wallpaper too, but you weren't bitching about that.
Yes great leadership. Procuring the vaccines before any other major nation in the planet during a global pandemic was fantastic leadership.
I couldn't care less about wallpaper so long as I'm not the one paying for it. Blair charging £650k of wallpaper to the taxpayer was a story, Boris getting his privately paid for is not.
Would it be a story IF if those who paid for Carrie's decorating ended up with some nice contracts and/or other sweet deals in return for their investment?
That is, "good graft" as famously defined by the Sage of Tammany Hall, George Washington Plunkett?
In London, it looks as if Shaun Bailey will lose by about 44/45 to 56/55, which is a more creditable performance than seemed likely.
And would give the lie to the idea that London is lost to the blues in an ocean of woke liberalism yearning for the sunlit uphills of Angela von de Leydenland.
These jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people do tend to be nonsense, don't they?
Sadly for Labour proving only too true......
That's right, Felix. Jaundiced generalizations about large groups of people are only accurate when made by Tories.
You mean like the left description immortalised by tim of PBTories..
Afore my time. Bit of an "acid wit" by all accounts.
A very astute political punter, and in life after PB a withering critic of Corbyn and the Labour left.
SeanT. and Plato could wind him up like a $5 watch, and did he bite.
Really? So desperate were they to spite him that both of those posters had to resort to posting details of his real identity on this very site.
IIRC - I was just a humble lurker - the great SeanT only got punchy with tim because Tim sort-of doxxed SeanT, referencing his statements on another site
I miss them both. Titans, they were, we shall not see their like again. Now we are reduced to accountants like ‘kinabalu’. Sic transit Gloria Mundi
The idea that tim was innocent in all that is laughable.
I think you might be surprised to hear what Tim did to others - including those on the far left of his party.
He really is no loss to this board
Not saying he was innocent - just questioning the initial 'who wound up whom' proposition.
He was vile to people all the time - no way was he just responding after being attacked.
Mark Drakeford is HOT isn’t he? I’ve always respected him as a politician and a ‘canny operator’, but I’ve never really understood just what a sexy human being he is. There’s a sensual animality about him. Like a prowling tiger.
As a heterosexual male who usually prefers younger women there aren’t many elderly male Welsh politicians I’d LOVE to get naked with, but La Drakeford?? Ffffffwoo. FETCH THE ICEPACK, I’M BURNING UP
Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
Apparently BoZo's cunning plan to avoid Indyref 2 is to say that it can't happen during Covid.
Which in turn means he can never declare Covid over...
He's just following Ms Sturgeon's policy anyway. (As adumbrated again yesterday.)
Bozo can’t make Covid last 5 years (nor can La Nip). By 2023 they will both need new excuses. What?
I think a general election is quite likely in 2023 (Boris won't wait the full five years to May 2024) so I'd imagine 2023 will be a general election year - would probably kick the can to 2024 or 2025.
Why is Labour performing well in Wales because of a vaccine boost but the Tories not so in England?
Tories aren't performing well in England?
No, I meant why is the Tory Party's good performance in England not explained away by the vaccines?
I don't think anyone denies the Tories are getting a well-deserved vaccine boost.
So are Labour in Wales and SNP in Scotland. Fact.
Please don't counter me with Boris personally invented, bought and injected the vaccines again. I don't believe that. They have all had a polling boost, fact!
But Boris's government procured the vaccines.
If you don't believe that, then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales? 🤦♂️
I am giving the Johnson Government credit for vaccine procurement on their watch. You try to turn that into Boris Johnson personally bidding and winning on a WHO version of eBay against the French and Germans which is patently untrue.
I am conceding also that Johnson has had a vaccine polling bounce, you are countering that by saying you think he should have one in Wales and Scotland too. Well it hasn't happened like that, so I don't see the point you are making.
The incumbents in England, Wales and Scotland have seen a vaccine bounce. What more is there to say? Except "bounce" implies stuff goes down as well as up, and that applies to all three countries of the UK that voted on Thursday.
Boris's government did bid on and win the procurement race against the French, Germans and every other major government in the entire planet.
If you don't think Boris's government procured the vaccines then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales?
Did Drakeford set up his own vaccine taskforce? Were they procured by unicorns? Wishful thinking? Did they grown on roses?
That's not the argument though is it? Johnson got a vaccine bounce, Drakeford got a vaccine bounce and Nippy got a vaccine bounce. Fact.
You're whining on that Drakeford and Nippy don't deserve their bounce, because Boris personally bought the vaccines on their behalf. So what? My argument is it's a one off benefit that probably won't last the test of time for any of them.
I'm not whining, I'm saying Drakeford and Sturgeon are lucky to be getting reflected glory from Boris's great leadership.
Great leadership? Titter ye not!
Boris was lucky to get his wallpaper too, but you weren't bitching about that.
Yes great leadership. Procuring the vaccines before any other major nation in the planet during a global pandemic was fantastic leadership.
I couldn't care less about wallpaper so long as I'm not the one paying for it. Blair charging £650k of wallpaper to the taxpayer was a story, Boris getting his privately paid for is not.
Would it be a story IF if those who paid for Carrie's decorating ended up with some nice contracts and/or other sweet deals in return for their investment?
That is, "good graft" as famously defined by the Sage of Tammany Hall, George Washington Plunkett?
Why is Labour performing well in Wales because of a vaccine boost but the Tories not so in England?
Tories aren't performing well in England?
No, I meant why is the Tory Party's good performance in England not explained away by the vaccines?
I don't think anyone denies the Tories are getting a well-deserved vaccine boost.
So are Labour in Wales and SNP in Scotland. Fact.
Please don't counter me with Boris personally invented, bought and injected the vaccines again. I don't believe that. They have all had a polling boost, fact!
But Boris's government procured the vaccines.
If you don't believe that, then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales? 🤦♂️
I am giving the Johnson Government credit for vaccine procurement on their watch. You try to turn that into Boris Johnson personally bidding and winning on a WHO version of eBay against the French and Germans which is patently untrue.
I am conceding also that Johnson has had a vaccine polling bounce, you are countering that by saying you think he should have one in Wales and Scotland too. Well it hasn't happened like that, so I don't see the point you are making.
The incumbents in England, Wales and Scotland have seen a vaccine bounce. What more is there to say? Except "bounce" implies stuff goes down as well as up, and that applies to all three countries of the UK that voted on Thursday.
Boris's government did bid on and win the procurement race against the French, Germans and every other major government in the entire planet.
If you don't think Boris's government procured the vaccines then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales?
Did Drakeford set up his own vaccine taskforce? Were they procured by unicorns? Wishful thinking? Did they grown on roses?
That's not the argument though is it? Johnson got a vaccine bounce, Drakeford got a vaccine bounce and Nippy got a vaccine bounce. Fact.
You're whining on that Drakeford and Nippy don't deserve their bounce, because Boris personally bought the vaccines on their behalf. So what? My argument is it's a one off benefit that probably won't last the test of time for any of them.
I'm not whining, I'm saying Drakeford and Sturgeon are lucky to be getting reflected glory from Boris's great leadership.
Great leadership? Titter ye not!
Boris was lucky to get his wallpaper too, but you weren't bitching about that.
Yes great leadership. Procuring the vaccines before any other major nation in the planet during a global pandemic was fantastic leadership.
I couldn't care less about wallpaper so long as I'm not the one paying for it. Blair charging £650k of wallpaper to the taxpayer was a story, Boris getting his privately paid for is not.
Would it be a story IF if those who paid for Carrie's decorating ended up with some nice contracts and/or other sweet deals in return for their investment?
That is, "good graft" as famously defined by the Sage of Tammany Hall, George Washington Plunkett?
Mark Drakeford is HOT isn’t he? I’ve always respected him as a politician and a ‘canny operator’, but I’ve never really understood just what a sexy human being he is. There’s a sensual animality about him. Like a prowling tiger.
As a heterosexual male who usually prefers younger women there aren’t many elderly male Welsh politicians I’d LOVE to get naked with, but La Drakeford?? Ffffffwoo. FETCH THE ICEPACK, I’M BURNING UP
Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
What does your wife think?
She wants me, her and the Drakeford to have a threesome. I’ve told her she’s likely to be disappointed, a guy like that must get these desperate sexual requests all the time. But I’ve promised her I’ll try my best to organize it
Any advice welcome. Have any other PBers had a FMM threesome with an elderly but very senior male figure in Welsh politics?
Why is Labour performing well in Wales because of a vaccine boost but the Tories not so in England?
Tories aren't performing well in England?
No, I meant why is the Tory Party's good performance in England not explained away by the vaccines?
I don't think anyone denies the Tories are getting a well-deserved vaccine boost.
So are Labour in Wales and SNP in Scotland. Fact.
Please don't counter me with Boris personally invented, bought and injected the vaccines again. I don't believe that. They have all had a polling boost, fact!
But Boris's government procured the vaccines.
If you don't believe that, then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales? 🤦♂️
I am giving the Johnson Government credit for vaccine procurement on their watch. You try to turn that into Boris Johnson personally bidding and winning on a WHO version of eBay against the French and Germans which is patently untrue.
I am conceding also that Johnson has had a vaccine polling bounce, you are countering that by saying you think he should have one in Wales and Scotland too. Well it hasn't happened like that, so I don't see the point you are making.
The incumbents in England, Wales and Scotland have seen a vaccine bounce. What more is there to say? Except "bounce" implies stuff goes down as well as up, and that applies to all three countries of the UK that voted on Thursday.
Boris's government did bid on and win the procurement race against the French, Germans and every other major government in the entire planet.
If you don't think Boris's government procured the vaccines then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales?
Did Drakeford set up his own vaccine taskforce? Were they procured by unicorns? Wishful thinking? Did they grown on roses?
That's not the argument though is it? Johnson got a vaccine bounce, Drakeford got a vaccine bounce and Nippy got a vaccine bounce. Fact.
You're whining on that Drakeford and Nippy don't deserve their bounce, because Boris personally bought the vaccines on their behalf. So what? My argument is it's a one off benefit that probably won't last the test of time for any of them.
I'm not whining, I'm saying Drakeford and Sturgeon are lucky to be getting reflected glory from Boris's great leadership.
Great leadership? Titter ye not!
Boris was lucky to get his wallpaper too, but you weren't bitching about that.
Yes great leadership. Procuring the vaccines before any other major nation in the planet during a global pandemic was fantastic leadership.
I couldn't care less about wallpaper so long as I'm not the one paying for it. Blair charging £650k of wallpaper to the taxpayer was a story, Boris getting his privately paid for is not.
Would it be a story IF if those who paid for Carrie's decorating ended up with some nice contracts and/or other sweet deals in return for their investment?
That is, "good graft" as famously defined by the Sage of Tammany Hall, George Washington Plunkett?
Labour and the Drake have been getting the media plaudits for their performance in the Welsh Senedd election, equalling their record, but it’s worth noting that the Tories’ 16-seat tally is an all-time high.
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I wish I was in Namibia now.
IIRC the courts banned Auberon Waugh's manifesto, as it referred to pending trial of Jeremy Thorpe.
Brilliant. You scour those entrails.
Like you, I suspect that holding on to those new voters in places like Hartlepool will be tough unless Brexit delivers something positive to them quite quickly.
I also think that the Tories might discover that winning back former Tory-inclined remainers is not going to be easy at all.
Brian rose still layable on betfair.
Now just -22.
-16 in Cornwall alone. May have a chance of standing still.
https://www.politico.eu/coronavirus-in-europe/
As a heterosexual male who usually prefers younger women there aren’t many elderly male Welsh politicians I’d LOVE to get naked with, but La Drakeford?? Ffffffwoo. FETCH THE ICEPACK, I’M BURNING UP
And the several thousand people that read the comments, I guess.
Chadsmoor ward of Staffs CC has voted Tory for the first time ever.
This is my ward. It was safe Labour.
It wasn’t even close this time.
ETA - the Tories have also picked up one of the outlying wards of Stoke that’s not in the UA, and Brereton and Ravenhill in Rugeley. Absolute massacre for Labour outside Stafford itself (one ward) and Burton (two). The only other Labour seat is Leek South.
I think you might be surprised to hear what Tim did to others - including those on the far left of his party.
He really is no loss to this board
Round 1
Dan Norris (LAB): 84,434 (33.4%)
Samuel Williams (CON): 72,415 (28.6%)
Jerome Thomas (GRN): 54,919 (21.7%)
Stephen Williams (LD): 41,193 (16.3%)
This one looks like a Lab gain from Con
You're whining on that Drakeford and Nippy don't deserve their bounce, because Boris personally bought the vaccines on their behalf. So what? My argument is it's a one off benefit that probably won't last the test of time for any of them.
He is the perfect candidate for Tories to win back your Surrey remainer types. Plus detoxifies the lazy accusation that Boris is a racist, therefore all Tories are. And despite being uber wealthy, he does seem to speak human, unlike a Jacob Ress Mogg type Tory, thus doesn't instantly piss off Northern working class types.
Surprisingly close though.
Con 25 (-6)
LD 12 (+4)
Oth 6 (+1)
Lab 5 (+1)
Not what I would have guessed. Just goes to show.
Can still remember how you were so smitten with Sarah Palin!
Dan Hodges still at it.
"Mr Carman, Thorpe’s barrister, applied to the Divisional Court to have me committed to prison and my manifesto banned, but the Lord Chief Justice threw it out. On appeal, Lord Denning reinstated the ban, dismissing my counsel’s arguments with contumely, and saying he had been reading Private Eye and was in no doubt of my intention to pervert the course of justice."
https://twitter.com/blairmcdougall/status/1391019422215720961?s=20
His wit and insight is still missed, however
What we really need is one of those maps with the little coloured arrows indicating the swing at ward/local level.
I recall seeing such a map for the US elections on 538(?) or nyt and it was bloody brilliant.
Mayor was
Byrne 102,276
Street 84,817
PCC is
Lab 111,852
Con 63,681
His handing of the Profumo Affair in particular Stephen Ward was a SERIOUS parody if not perversion of justice.
Away and buy yourself a Kindle copy of Dogging Sites in Brycheiniog and Sir Trefaldwyn and plan your next holiday while we wait for the Scottish list results to come out.
And I've done a "blush" emoticon too. Very pleased with that.
I think too many Tories seem to lose sight of the fact that the power to do exactly as they please for 5 years with an 80 seat majority comes courtesy of our electoral system rather than courtesy of the voters.
‘I’m going to have a really long wank about Mark Drakeford!’
has been moderated?!?!
Since when has it been wrong to candidly admire certain politicians?
Which in turn means he can never declare Covid over...
Boris was lucky to get his wallpaper too, but you weren't bitching about that.
Heard a lot say they couldn't really believe the results on Teesside.
I would have picked Tunbridge Wells for 90 % Tory council. With a couple of LDs/Indies. Or even a Green maybe.
That they have a Labour group at all comes as a shock!.
Had any other party come close to the Tories they wouldn't have got that majority.
Early on the absinthe today.
It is fun to reminisce.
Is McTernanPredicts about?
Street 49%
Byrne 40%
I couldn't care less about wallpaper so long as I'm not the one paying for it. Blair charging £650k of wallpaper to the taxpayer was a story, Boris getting his privately paid for is not.
Street ahead!
Byrne 244,009 (40%)
Greens 35,559
Lib Dems 21,836
Reform 13,568
https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1390701939340500993
Btw, I know you're all delighted about woke Labour getting trounced (again) but the cultural assault won't stop. They will double down. They always do.
So remember, there's an infinite number of genders, you're all racist and Britain is the worst country in the world.
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Dunfermline (Mid & Fife) Constituency Vote:
SNP ~ 20048 (49%, +5.6)
Labour ~ 11384 (27.8%, -1.7)
Conservative ~ 6314 (15.4%, -2.2)
Lib Dem ~ 3196 (7.8%, -1.8)
#SP21 #BBS21 http://ballotbox.scot
Thought the King in the North would get more.
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Almond Valley (Lothian) Constituency Vote:
SNP ~ 22675 (54.3%, +1.3)
Labour ~ 10545 (25.2%, -3.7)
Conservative ~ 6952 (16.6%, +1.4)
Lib Dem ~ 1601 (3.8%, +0.9)
#SP21 #BBS21 http://ballotbox.scot
That is, "good graft" as famously defined by the Sage of Tammany Hall, George Washington Plunkett?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Plunkitt
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Mid Fife & Glenrothes (Mid & Fife) Constituency Vote:
SNP ~ 18115 (55.4%, +1)
Labour ~ 7881 (24.1%, -1.4)
Conservative ~ 4500 (13.8%, -1.7)
Lib Dem ~ 1789 (5.5%, +1)
Family Party ~ 385 (1.2%, +1.2)
#SP21 #BBS21 http://ballotbox.scot
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Glasgow Provan Constituency Vote:
SNP ~ 15913 (52.9%, -1.7)
Labour ~ 8683 (28.9%, -5.8)
Conservative ~ 2687 (8.9%, +0.4)
Green ~ 2366 (7.9%, +7.9)
Lib Dem ~ 421 (1.4%, -0.8)
#SP21 #BBS21 http://ballotbox.scot
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Carrick etc (South) Constituency Vote:
SNP ~ 15240 (42.8%, -3.6)
Conservative ~ 10903 (30.6%, +6.4)
Labour ~ 8604 (24.2%, -3.3)
Lib Dem ~ 875 (2.5%, +0.4)
#SP21 #BBS21 http://ballotbox.scot
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
Any advice welcome. Have any other PBers had a FMM threesome with an elderly but very senior male figure in Welsh politics?
Mr Salmond says that decision be made at the party conference, but confirms Alba plans to stand in next year's local elections.
Live: https://trib.al/R0HMjtL https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1391037108698206211/video/1
Con 13 (+10)
Lab 11 (-3)
Others 12 (-7)
Con +213
Lab -241
LD -21
Green +60
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c481drqqzv7t/england-local-elections-2021
Er, I did say he'd walk it.