Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
What does your wife think?
She wants me, her and the Drakeford to have a threesome. I’ve told her she’s likely to be disappointed, a guy like that must get these desperate sexual requests all the time. But I’ve promised her I’ll try my best to organize it
Any advice welcome. Have any other PBers had a FMM threesome with an elderly but very senior male figure in Welsh politics?
There are so many to consider - but Clapham common in the 80s and 90s was a lorra lorra fun!
The vaccine boost in full swing, so how much can we conclude the 6 point Tory lead is because of that? I am going to conclude a lot
In which case, the polls are roughly right. And if they're right now, they were probably right in December, when C and L were roughly level. And C +6 is roughly one major government foulup from level pegging again.
You think Labour's going to hold its position in the polls now that Starmer's suffered one of the most humiliating by-election defeats in modern history and net losses across the country? Bold.
The government has been spraying money around to all and sundry for the past 12 months, the public finances are in a parlous state, but the voters don't give a monkey's nut about that. Millions of voters are being paid not to work, what's not to like?
However the party is almost over and the bills are going to start rolling in. Very tough economic decisions are going to be needed and in the midst of all that Boris is going to have to find the largesse to turn places like Hartlepool into the post-Brexit Nirvana that was promised.
You think the Tories are going to hold their position in the poll?. Bold.
Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
What does your wife think?
She wants me, her and the Drakeford to have a threesome. I’ve told her she’s likely to be disappointed, a guy like that must get these desperate sexual requests all the time. But I’ve promised her I’ll try my best to organize it
Any advice welcome. Have any other PBers had a FMM threesome with an elderly but very senior male figure in Welsh politics?
Careful - might turn into one of those situations where she and Drakeford become interested only in each other, and you're just left standing there with a towel over your arm.
Here’s @kevverage calling out the bullshit: Sturgeon isn’t prepared for a referendum, she promised she wouldn’t prioritise it & she would, on current polling, lose it. The pretence that she was ready for indyref2 dominated the last parliament. We can’t let it happen again
The vaccine boost in full swing, so how much can we conclude the 6 point Tory lead is because of that? I am going to conclude a lot
In which case, the polls are roughly right. And if they're right now, they were probably right in December, when C and L were roughly level. And C +6 is roughly one major government foulup from level pegging again.
You think Labour's going to hold its position in the polls now that Starmer's suffered one of the most humiliating by-election defeats in modern history and net losses across the country? Bold.
The government has been spraying money around to all and sundry for the past 12 months, the public finances are in a parlous state, but the voters don't give a monkey's nut about that. Millions of voters are being paid not to work, what's not to like?
However the party is almost over and the bills are going to start rolling in. Very tough economic decisions are going to be needed and in the midst of all that Boris is going to have to find the largesse to turn places like Hartlepool into the post-Brexit Nirvana that was promised.
You think the Tories are going to hold their position in the poll?. Bold.
I think Boris puts off paying the bills until after the next election.
Btw, I know you're all delighted about woke Labour getting trounced (again) but the cultural assault won't stop. They will double down. They always do.
So remember, there's an infinite number of genders, you're all racist and Britain is the worst country in the world.
The answer is obviously if we weren't a country of thick racists they would of course be voting progressive candidates.
Assuming this site is accurate, and it would seem it is, I’m guessing the Tories now have more councillors in England than Labour and the LibDems put together. After 11 years in Government. It really doesn’t compute - I grew up watching the opposition always storm the locals and was under both the Tories and New Labour.
Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
What does your wife think?
She wants me, her and the Drakeford to have a threesome. I’ve told her she’s likely to be disappointed, a guy like that must get these desperate sexual requests all the time. But I’ve promised her I’ll try my best to organize it
Any advice welcome. Have any other PBers had a FMM threesome with an elderly but very senior male figure in Welsh politics?
Careful - might turn into one of those situations where she and Drakeford become interested only in each other, and you're just left standing there with a towel over your arm.
Btw, I know you're all delighted about woke Labour getting trounced (again) but the cultural assault won't stop. They will double down. They always do.
So remember, there's an infinite number of genders, you're all racist and Britain is the worst country in the world.
The answer is obviously if we weren't a country of thick racists they would of course be voting progressive candidates.
I saw someone claim that people voting Tory shows the country is too stupid and uneducated for democracy.
Assuming this site is accurate, and it would seem it is, I’m guessing the Tories now have more councillors in England than Labour and the LibDems put together. After 11 years in Government. It really doesn’t compute - I grew up watching the opposition always storm the locals and was under both the Tories and New Labour.
It does compute. It's the 'hope' of Brexit and the gushing money tap. Of course the Conservatives will now have to deliver. If they do, fair play, but that's far from certain.
The vaccine boost in full swing, so how much can we conclude the 6 point Tory lead is because of that? I am going to conclude a lot
In which case, the polls are roughly right. And if they're right now, they were probably right in December, when C and L were roughly level. And C +6 is roughly one major government foulup from level pegging again.
You think Labour's going to hold its position in the polls now that Starmer's suffered one of the most humiliating by-election defeats in modern history and net losses across the country? Bold.
The government has been spraying money around to all and sundry for the past 12 months, the public finances are in a parlous state, but the voters don't give a monkey's nut about that. Millions of voters are being paid not to work, what's not to like?
However the party is almost over and the bills are going to start rolling in. Very tough economic decisions are going to be needed and in the midst of all that Boris is going to have to find the largesse to turn places like Hartlepool into the post-Brexit Nirvana that was promised.
You think the Tories are going to hold their position in the poll?. Bold.
I’m not so sure.
Add together the latest economic forecasts and the collective desire of the major powers to engineer a boom for the next couple of years, and I think Boris is going to be able to splash the cash right through to the election.
The reckoning comes later. If Labour is really unlucky, it will come during the first term of a weak Labour minority Government....
Btw, I know you're all delighted about woke Labour getting trounced (again) but the cultural assault won't stop. They will double down. They always do.
So remember, there's an infinite number of genders, you're all racist and Britain is the worst country in the world.
The answer is obviously if we weren't a country of thick racists they would of course be voting progressive candidates.
I saw someone claim that people voting Tory shows the country is too stupid and uneducated for democracy.
I think the tories do need to be careful...i think all.these northern votes they are racking up are soft. If Labour actually talk about issues they care about in a way that doesn't accuse them of being thick racists, and eventually the Tories will have to turn the magic money tap off...I think they could easily return to Labour very quickly.
While we see in places like Surrey many are pissed off with the Tories.and won't immediately return while Boris is in charge.
At the moment Brexit and vaccine gives Boris the fair wind.
I think that is exactly right. Boris has certainly created a winning 40% coalition of voters that is significantly different in composition to previous winning Tory coalitions.
Like you, I suspect that holding on to those new voters in places like Hartlepool will be tough unless Brexit delivers something positive to them quite quickly.
I also think that the Tories might discover that winning back former Tory-inclined remainers is not going to be easy at all.
One thing the Tories have going for them, that Labour don't. They have the likes of Dishy Rishi waiting in the wings.
He is the perfect candidate for Tories to win back your Surrey remainer types. Plus detoxifies the lazy accusation that Boris is a racist, therefore all Tories are. And despite being uber wealthy, he does seem to speak human, unlike a Jacob Ress Mogg type Tory, thus doesn't instantly piss off Northern working class types.
Yes, Labour's problem at the moment is that I can't see a leader in waiting. They really need to be creative and look beyond the current shadow cabinet - Ed Balls, Dan Jarvis, Hilary Benn, even Andy Burnham come to mind. Snag is the membership are more likely to go for another Corbynite.
Here’s @kevverage calling out the bullshit: Sturgeon isn’t prepared for a referendum, she promised she wouldn’t prioritise it & she would, on current polling, lose it. The pretence that she was ready for indyref2 dominated the last parliament. We can’t let it happen again
Assuming this site is accurate, and it would seem it is, I’m guessing the Tories now have more councillors in England than Labour and the LibDems put together. After 11 years in Government. It really doesn’t compute - I grew up watching the opposition always storm the locals and was under both the Tories and New Labour.
It does compute. It's the 'hope' of Brexit and the gushing money tap. Of course the Conservatives will now have to deliver. If they do, fair play, but that's far from certain.
Yeah, but the phenomenon predates Brexit. Why weren’t the Tories murdered in the locals from 2010 on? It always used to be the pattern. There was a whole “we will listen and learn” ritual for Cabinet Ministers the following morning.
Btw, I know you're all delighted about woke Labour getting trounced (again) but the cultural assault won't stop. They will double down. They always do.
So remember, there's an infinite number of genders, you're all racist and Britain is the worst country in the world.
The answer is obviously if we weren't a country of thick racists they would of course be voting progressive candidates.
I saw someone claim that people voting Tory shows the country is too stupid and uneducated for democracy.
Well we see it in coded language all the times, about its those without uni degrees who vote Tory these days, and all those clever folk with their degrees vote progressive parties.
When the reality it is it is heavily skewed by age, Brexit and I believe the fact that Corbynisation of the Labour party and his policies of back to the 70s had those who are old enough to remember running a mile. While youngsters, who all of this is fresh, it sounds very appealing, given they have large student debt, expensive housing, many sold the false dream that a degree at f##k sticks metropolitan new university would result in a £100k a year job in the media and now they work in a call centre and still have to live at home with mum and dad.
Assuming this site is accurate, and it would seem it is, I’m guessing the Tories now have more councillors in England than Labour and the LibDems put together. After 11 years in Government. It really doesn’t compute - I grew up watching the opposition always storm the locals and was under both the Tories and New Labour.
It does compute. It's the 'hope' of Brexit and the gushing money tap. Of course the Conservatives will now have to deliver. If they do, fair play, but that's far from certain.
Yeah, but the phenomenon predates Brexit. Why weren’t the Tories murdered in the locals from 2010 on? It always used to be the pattern. There was a whole “we will listen and learn” ritual for Cabinet Ministers the following morning.
The coalition was murdered in the polls. At least the yellow half was.
Why is Labour performing well in Wales because of a vaccine boost but the Tories not so in England?
Tories aren't performing well in England?
No, I meant why is the Tory Party's good performance in England not explained away by the vaccines?
I don't think anyone denies the Tories are getting a well-deserved vaccine boost.
So are Labour in Wales and SNP in Scotland. Fact.
Please don't counter me with Boris personally invented, bought and injected the vaccines again. I don't believe that. They have all had a polling boost, fact!
But Boris's government procured the vaccines.
If you don't believe that, then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales? 🤦♂️
I am giving the Johnson Government credit for vaccine procurement on their watch. You try to turn that into Boris Johnson personally bidding and winning on a WHO version of eBay against the French and Germans which is patently untrue.
I am conceding also that Johnson has had a vaccine polling bounce, you are countering that by saying you think he should have one in Wales and Scotland too. Well it hasn't happened like that, so I don't see the point you are making.
The incumbents in England, Wales and Scotland have seen a vaccine bounce. What more is there to say? Except "bounce" implies stuff goes down as well as up, and that applies to all three countries of the UK that voted on Thursday.
Boris's government did bid on and win the procurement race against the French, Germans and every other major government in the entire planet.
If you don't think Boris's government procured the vaccines then please tell me who did procure the vaccines for Wales?
Did Drakeford set up his own vaccine taskforce? Were they procured by unicorns? Wishful thinking? Did they grown on roses?
That's not the argument though is it? Johnson got a vaccine bounce, Drakeford got a vaccine bounce and Nippy got a vaccine bounce. Fact.
You're whining on that Drakeford and Nippy don't deserve their bounce, because Boris personally bought the vaccines on their behalf. So what? My argument is it's a one off benefit that probably won't last the test of time for any of them.
I'm not whining, I'm saying Drakeford and Sturgeon are lucky to be getting reflected glory from Boris's great leadership.
Great leadership? Titter ye not!
Boris was lucky to get his wallpaper too, but you weren't bitching about that.
Yes great leadership. Procuring the vaccines before any other major nation in the planet during a global pandemic was fantastic leadership.
I couldn't care less about wallpaper so long as I'm not the one paying for it. Blair charging £650k of wallpaper to the taxpayer was a story, Boris getting his privately paid for is not.
Would it be a story IF if those who paid for Carrie's decorating ended up with some nice contracts and/or other sweet deals in return for their investment?
That is, "good graft" as famously defined by the Sage of Tammany Hall, George Washington Plunkett?
I think the tories do need to be careful...i think all.these northern votes they are racking up are soft. If Labour actually talk about issues they care about in a way that doesn't accuse them of being thick racists, and eventually the Tories will have to turn the magic money tap off...I think they could easily return to Labour very quickly.
While we see in places like Surrey many are pissed off with the Tories.and won't immediately return while Boris is in charge.
At the moment Brexit and vaccine gives Boris the fair wind.
I think that is exactly right. Boris has certainly created a winning 40% coalition of voters that is significantly different in composition to previous winning Tory coalitions.
Like you, I suspect that holding on to those new voters in places like Hartlepool will be tough unless Brexit delivers something positive to them quite quickly.
I also think that the Tories might discover that winning back former Tory-inclined remainers is not going to be easy at all.
One thing the Tories have going for them, that Labour don't. They have the likes of Dishy Rishi waiting in the wings.
He is the perfect candidate for Tories to win back your Surrey remainer types. Plus detoxifies the lazy accusation that Boris is a racist, therefore all Tories are. And despite being uber wealthy, he does seem to speak human, unlike a Jacob Ress Mogg type Tory, thus doesn't instantly piss off Northern working class types.
Yes, Labour's problem at the moment is that I can't see a leader in waiting. They really need to be creative and look beyond the current shadow cabinet - Ed Balls, Dan Jarvis, Hilary Benn come to mind. Snag is the membership are more likely to go for another Corbynite.
Rayner, Jarvis, and Nandy I think, as options in a year or more's time. Balls still hasn't quite moved on psychologically from the New Labour years as yet, but Benn could be an interesting one.
Assuming this site is accurate, and it would seem it is, I’m guessing the Tories now have more councillors in England than Labour and the LibDems put together. After 11 years in Government. It really doesn’t compute - I grew up watching the opposition always storm the locals and was under both the Tories and New Labour.
It is odd but I guess it's because in each general election the government has been kind of hitting the reset button.
2010-2015 - Coalition government
Reset
2015-2016 - Cameron government
Reset
Brexit
Reset
2016-2019 - May minority government/(chaos)
Reset
2019 - Boris government
So although the Tories have been in power for 11 years either alone or in coalition, due to the extraordinary decade we've been through they renewed themselves with each new administration.
Boris looks like he's in for the long term now so I'd expect the next 5-10 years will see things reverting to a more typical political cycle of opposition gains in local elections etc etc as the Johnson government gradually runs out of popularity.
Beeb: 15:44 Trapped school pupil triggered fire alarm at election count A trapped school pupil sparked the fire alarm which delayed the Argyll and Bute election count.
Counting was temporarily halted on Friday for a full evacuation of the Mid Argyll sports centre in Lochgilphead.
It's understood a pupil at the adjacent Lochgilphead High School found themselves in a room where they couldn't get out without opening a fire door which then set off the alarm.
The full Highlands and Islands regional list result is now not expected until later this evening.
@Floater I will remind you that in that poll of Hartlepool, the issue of "woke" was mentioned by 2% of voters. It's clearly a key issue.
"woke" is still a bit of a political wonk term though or still a trendy term amongst young mainly (my daughter first taught me the term about 3 years ago with its positive (in her view ) meaning.
However what "woke" means when expressed in other ways would definitley be a factor in places like Hartlepool. Things like Starmer taking the knee (its not so much the black rights issue as obsessing about America in my view)
Trapped school pupil triggered fire alarm at election count A trapped school pupil sparked the fire alarm which delayed the Argyll and Bute election count.
Counting was temporarily halted on Friday for a full evacuation of the Mid Argyll sports centre in Lochgilphead.
It's understood a pupil at the adjacent Lochgilphead High School found themselves in a room where they couldn't get out without opening a fire door which then set off the alarm.
The full Highlands and Islands regional list result is now not expected until later this evening.
I think the tories do need to be careful...i think all.these northern votes they are racking up are soft. If Labour actually talk about issues they care about in a way that doesn't accuse them of being thick racists, and eventually the Tories will have to turn the magic money tap off...I think they could easily return to Labour very quickly.
While we see in places like Surrey many are pissed off with the Tories.and won't immediately return while Boris is in charge.
At the moment Brexit and vaccine gives Boris the fair wind.
I think that is exactly right. Boris has certainly created a winning 40% coalition of voters that is significantly different in composition to previous winning Tory coalitions.
Like you, I suspect that holding on to those new voters in places like Hartlepool will be tough unless Brexit delivers something positive to them quite quickly.
I also think that the Tories might discover that winning back former Tory-inclined remainers is not going to be easy at all.
One thing the Tories have going for them, that Labour don't. They have the likes of Dishy Rishi waiting in the wings.
He is the perfect candidate for Tories to win back your Surrey remainer types. Plus detoxifies the lazy accusation that Boris is a racist, therefore all Tories are. And despite being uber wealthy, he does seem to speak human, unlike a Jacob Ress Mogg type Tory, thus doesn't instantly piss off Northern working class types.
Yes, Labour's problem at the moment is that I can't see a leader in waiting. They really need to be creative and look beyond the current shadow cabinet - Ed Balls, Dan Jarvis, Hilary Benn, even Andy Burnham come to mind. Snag is the membership are more likely to go for another Corbynite.
Current Shadow Cabinet has perfected the Cloak of Invisibility.
Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
What does your wife think?
She wants me, her and the Drakeford to have a threesome. I’ve told her she’s likely to be disappointed, a guy like that must get these desperate sexual requests all the time. But I’ve promised her I’ll try my best to organize it
Any advice welcome. Have any other PBers had a FMM threesome with an elderly but very senior male figure in Welsh politics?
Drakeford of course has own distinctive dress sense -- here are his eponymous top and culottes, modelled by some of the lucky ladies that he is laying.
I have always felt the hysterical rage that some posters feels towards the Drake may perhaps have roots in sexual frustration, perhaps quantity or quality issues. There are deep waters here, who knows how the tender male psyche reacts when confronted with a five chillies hot Welsh university professor?
Forgetting 65, the other "magic number" of MSPs at Holyrood is five. That's the point at which you become a proper party and get representation on the business bureau, a guaranteed question at FMQs, etc...the Lib Dems, sitting on 4 seats, will be tracking regional tallies keenly
Beeb: 15:44 Trapped school pupil triggered fire alarm at election count A trapped school pupil sparked the fire alarm which delayed the Argyll and Bute election count.
Counting was temporarily halted on Friday for a full evacuation of the Mid Argyll sports centre in Lochgilphead.
It's understood a pupil at the adjacent Lochgilphead High School found themselves in a room where they couldn't get out without opening a fire door which then set off the alarm.
The full Highlands and Islands regional list result is now not expected until later this evening.
Resourceful, these MI5 agents aren’t they? Just enough time to get erasing and rewriting.
Trapped school pupil triggered fire alarm at election count A trapped school pupil sparked the fire alarm which delayed the Argyll and Bute election count.
Counting was temporarily halted on Friday for a full evacuation of the Mid Argyll sports centre in Lochgilphead.
It's understood a pupil at the adjacent Lochgilphead High School found themselves in a room where they couldn't get out without opening a fire door which then set off the alarm.
The full Highlands and Islands regional list result is now not expected until later this evening.
Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
What does your wife think?
She wants me, her and the Drakeford to have a threesome. I’ve told her she’s likely to be disappointed, a guy like that must get these desperate sexual requests all the time. But I’ve promised her I’ll try my best to organize it
Any advice welcome. Have any other PBers had a FMM threesome with an elderly but very senior male figure in Welsh politics?
Drakeford of course has own distinctive dress sense -- here are his eponymous top and culottes, modelled by some of the lucky ladies that he is laying.
I have always felt the hysterical rage that some posters feels towards the Drake may perhaps have roots in sexual frustration, perhaps quantity or quality issues. There are deep waters here, who knows how the tender male psyche reacts when confronted with a five chillies hot Welsh university professor?
"modelled by some of the lucky ladies that he is laying"
In betting sense, of course! Otherwise might be actionable?
I think the tories do need to be careful...i think all.these northern votes they are racking up are soft. If Labour actually talk about issues they care about in a way that doesn't accuse them of being thick racists, and eventually the Tories will have to turn the magic money tap off...I think they could easily return to Labour very quickly.
While we see in places like Surrey many are pissed off with the Tories.and won't immediately return while Boris is in charge.
At the moment Brexit and vaccine gives Boris the fair wind.
I think that is exactly right. Boris has certainly created a winning 40% coalition of voters that is significantly different in composition to previous winning Tory coalitions.
Like you, I suspect that holding on to those new voters in places like Hartlepool will be tough unless Brexit delivers something positive to them quite quickly.
I also think that the Tories might discover that winning back former Tory-inclined remainers is not going to be easy at all.
One thing the Tories have going for them, that Labour don't. They have the likes of Dishy Rishi waiting in the wings.
He is the perfect candidate for Tories to win back your Surrey remainer types. Plus detoxifies the lazy accusation that Boris is a racist, therefore all Tories are. And despite being uber wealthy, he does seem to speak human, unlike a Jacob Ress Mogg type Tory, thus doesn't instantly piss off Northern working class types.
Yes, Labour's problem at the moment is that I can't see a leader in waiting. They really need to be creative and look beyond the current shadow cabinet - Ed Balls, Dan Jarvis, Hilary Benn come to mind. Snag is the membership are more likely to go for another Corbynite.
Rayner, Jarvis, and Nandy I think, as options in a year or more's time. Balls still hasn't quite moved on psychologically from the New Labour years as yet, but Benn could be an interesting one.
I hope that Labour don't choose a lightweight leader simply because they feel they have to go for a woman. I can't see Rayner or Nandy as PM I'm afraid
@Floater I will remind you that in that poll of Hartlepool, the issue of "woke" was mentioned by 2% of voters. It's clearly a key issue.
It's a second order derivative issue wrapped up in the fact they don't think Labour shares their values.
Edit: Starmer taking the knee was definitely noticed. It's been mentioned in focus groups. It's a trojan horse for all sorts of things, which ends with people like them being pointed at and told they have "white privilege" and pulling down history and heritage.
Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
What does your wife think?
She wants me, her and the Drakeford to have a threesome. I’ve told her she’s likely to be disappointed, a guy like that must get these desperate sexual requests all the time. But I’ve promised her I’ll try my best to organize it
Any advice welcome. Have any other PBers had a FMM threesome with an elderly but very senior male figure in Welsh politics?
Drakeford of course has own distinctive dress sense -- here are his eponymous top and culottes, modelled by some of the lucky ladies that he is laying.
I have always felt the hysterical rage that some posters feels towards the Drake may perhaps have roots in sexual frustration, perhaps quantity or quality issues. There are deep waters here, who knows how the tender male psyche reacts when confronted with a five chillies hot Welsh university professor?
Top post!
I owe PB a personal apology for my fatally flawed anecdotal narrative that Johnson vaccinated Wales and Drakeford closed the pubs. Patently wrong. I hold my hands up.
It seems I had underestimated the love for the Drakester.
One bet I'm definitely going to lose: £50 on Khan getting 50%+ in the 1st round.
Silly bet.
It looked very worth it.
The problem with that bet is the greater the chance of Khan getting 50% the less incentive for his voters to 1) vote at all 2) make him first preference. No candidate has got near it yet, the leading candidates so far have been between 36-44%.
A small, but telling difference between Tories and Labour.
How often do you hear a Tory utter a bad word about past Tory governments? Nicholas Soames was on Newsnight last night praising Johnson - the man who kicked him out and ended his career
I think that's the bit Labour sometimes fail to get - Labour are about policies the Conservatives about power, so if a Labour policy will help them gain or retain it, where's the harm in that? The reverse rarely applies (with one clear exception, Blair).
Trapped school pupil triggered fire alarm at election count A trapped school pupil sparked the fire alarm which delayed the Argyll and Bute election count.
Counting was temporarily halted on Friday for a full evacuation of the Mid Argyll sports centre in Lochgilphead.
It's understood a pupil at the adjacent Lochgilphead High School found themselves in a room where they couldn't get out without opening a fire door which then set off the alarm.
The full Highlands and Islands regional list result is now not expected until later this evening.
A young Alba activist?
Don't they have to be elderly, ex-SNP and preferably disgraced?
Have the Greens actually been down anywhere, in percentages in the council elections ? Haven't seen it.
Green growth is one of the big stories of this cycle that is not getting much mention.
All down to disaffected Corbyn cult voters switching? Or genuine on the ground change?
Starmer has definitely shed votes to the Greens since the expulsion of Corbyn. The polls have consistently shown that, and this may be some of the first evidence appearing on the ground, as well as a much wider protest or climate vote. It makes a cross-party coalition for PR even more likely in the long-term, you would have to say.
Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
What does your wife think?
She wants me, her and the Drakeford to have a threesome. I’ve told her she’s likely to be disappointed, a guy like that must get these desperate sexual requests all the time. But I’ve promised her I’ll try my best to organize it
Any advice welcome. Have any other PBers had a FMM threesome with an elderly but very senior male figure in Welsh politics?
Drakeford of course has own distinctive dress sense -- here are his eponymous top and culottes, modelled by some of the lucky ladies that he is laying.
I have always felt the hysterical rage that some posters feels towards the Drake may perhaps have roots in sexual frustration, perhaps quantity or quality issues. There are deep waters here, who knows how the tender male psyche reacts when confronted with a five chillies hot Welsh university professor?
Top post!
I owe PB a personal apology for my fatally flawed anecdotal narrative that Johnson vaccinated Wales and Drakeford closed the pubs. Patently wrong. I hold my hands up.
It seems I had underestimated the love for the Drakester.
There’s a lot of hate coming your way for underestimating Drakeford. I’d duck back under cover if I were you.
Tories hold Tunbridge Wells. Surprisingly close though.
Con 25 (-6) LD 12 (+4) Oth 6 (+1) Lab 5 (+1)
Not what I would have guessed. Just goes to show.
Nah, I’d expect the Lib Dems to do well there. Here’s their core vote in Woking:
You mean the bloke living under the hedge?
No, no, no. You have lost the plot. All seriously upper class people have now gone Lib Dem. It is the Conservatives who are reduced to living under hedges. They believe in Conservative policies for concreting all over the green belt by developers, and see nothing wrong with a bit of bribery and corruption and downright lying.
The Police Crime Commissioner results to show the personal vote for Street when compared with the mayoral result
Birmingham
Foster, Simon John Labour and Co-operative Party 111,852 Hambleton, Jools Independent 10,122 Hoath, Mark William Reform UK 4,743 Hunt, Jon Liberal Democrats 15,979 Jaddoo, Desmond Gustavus We Matter Party 4,029 Singh Sohal, Jay The Conservative Party Candidate 63,681
Coventry
Foster, Simon John Labour and Co-operative Party 37,101 Hambleton, Jools Independent 3,934 Hoath, Mark William Reform UK 2,629 Hunt, Jon Liberal Democrats 4,583 Jaddoo, Desmond Gustavus We Matter Party 775 Singh Sohal, Jay The Conservative Party Candidate 24,579
Sandwell
Foster, Simon John Labour and Co-operative Party 35,991 Hambleton, Jools Independent 2,496 Hoath, Mark William Reform UK 2,284 Hunt, Jon Liberal Democrats 2,649 Jaddoo, Desmond Gustavus We Matter Party 833 Singh Sohal, Jay The Conservative Party Candidate 22,445
Walsall
Foster, Simon John Labour and Co-operative Party 22,940 Hambleton, Jools Independent 2,515 Hoath, Mark William Reform UK 2.007 Hunt, Jon Liberal Democrats 2,928 Jaddoo, Desmond Gustavus We Matter Party 465 Singh Sohal, Jay The Conservative Party Candidate 28,840
Wolverhampton
Foster, Simon John Labour and Co-operative Party 28,231 Hambleton, Jools Independent 1,746 Hoath, Mark William Reform UK 1,664 Hunt, Jon Liberal Democrats 2,419 Jaddoo, Desmond Gustavus We Matter Party 489 Singh Sohal, Jay The Conservative Party Candidate 23,252
Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
What does your wife think?
She wants me, her and the Drakeford to have a threesome. I’ve told her she’s likely to be disappointed, a guy like that must get these desperate sexual requests all the time. But I’ve promised her I’ll try my best to organize it
Any advice welcome. Have any other PBers had a FMM threesome with an elderly but very senior male figure in Welsh politics?
Drakeford of course has own distinctive dress sense -- here are his eponymous top and culottes, modelled by some of the lucky ladies that he is laying.
I have always felt the hysterical rage that some posters feels towards the Drake may perhaps have roots in sexual frustration, perhaps quantity or quality issues. There are deep waters here, who knows how the tender male psyche reacts when confronted with a five chillies hot Welsh university professor?
Top post!
I owe PB a personal apology for my fatally flawed anecdotal narrative that Johnson vaccinated Wales and Drakeford closed the pubs. Patently wrong. I hold my hands up.
It seems I had underestimated the love for the Drakester.
The TRUE love that dare not speak its name? Until now!
Whenever I see another SMOULDERING picture of Welsh Labour Party leader Mark Drakeford - and, truth be told, I’ve never seen an UNsexy photo of him - I always hear the phrase “Ooooh, tromboning” in my head. Like some maddening sexual mantra
Am I alone? I doubt it. I’d wager half the country has an erotomaniac response to him, it’s just that so many partisan observers are unable to admit it
What does your wife think?
She wants me, her and the Drakeford to have a threesome. I’ve told her she’s likely to be disappointed, a guy like that must get these desperate sexual requests all the time. But I’ve promised her I’ll try my best to organize it
Any advice welcome. Have any other PBers had a FMM threesome with an elderly but very senior male figure in Welsh politics?
Drakeford of course has own distinctive dress sense -- here are his eponymous top and culottes, modelled by some of the lucky ladies that he is laying.
I have always felt the hysterical rage that some posters feels towards the Drake may perhaps have roots in sexual frustration, perhaps quantity or quality issues. There are deep waters here, who knows how the tender male psyche reacts when confronted with a five chillies hot Welsh university professor?
Top post!
I owe PB a personal apology for my fatally flawed anecdotal narrative that Johnson vaccinated Wales and Drakeford closed the pubs. Patently wrong. I hold my hands up.
It seems I had underestimated the love for the Drakester.
There’s a lot of hate coming your way for underestimating Drakeford. I’d duck back under cover if I were you.
Trapped school pupil triggered fire alarm at election count A trapped school pupil sparked the fire alarm which delayed the Argyll and Bute election count.
Counting was temporarily halted on Friday for a full evacuation of the Mid Argyll sports centre in Lochgilphead.
It's understood a pupil at the adjacent Lochgilphead High School found themselves in a room where they couldn't get out without opening a fire door which then set off the alarm.
The full Highlands and Islands regional list result is now not expected until later this evening.
A young Alba activist?
Don't they have to be elderly, ex-SNP and preferably disgraced?
Labour and the Drake have been getting the media plaudits for their performance in the Welsh Senedd election, equalling their record, but it’s worth noting that the Tories’ 16-seat tally is an all-time high.
Andrew Neil @afneil · 4h What’s happening in English politics is unique: it’s a watershed, with rules being radically rewritten, not because an insurgent party is successfully challenging an unpopular incumbent (that happens) but because a popular incumbent is savaging an unpopular opposition.
Binface holding steady at 1% in all still counting boroughs - will be close around the 20K Jackpot threshold but I am going to call it for him with errrmm 21,076 votes
Binface holding steady at 1% in all still counting boroughs - will be close around the 20K Jackpot threshold but I am going to call it for him with errrmm 21,076 votes
The Binface operation has beaten Corbyn and Peter Gammons. Other parties will be poring over it, inevitably.
Andrew Neil @afneil · 4h What’s happening in English politics is unique: it’s a watershed, with rules being radically rewritten, not because an insurgent party is successfully challenging an unpopular incumbent (that happens) but because a popular incumbent is savaging an unpopular opposition.
Andrew Neil @afneil · 4h What’s happening in English politics is unique: it’s a watershed, with rules being radically rewritten, not because an insurgent party is successfully challenging an unpopular incumbent (that happens) but because a popular incumbent is savaging an unpopular opposition.
But his wallpaper...
Granted, in wretched taste (more ways than one).
But then Great British Public has NEVER been notable for keen fashion sense.
Andrew Neil @afneil · 4h What’s happening in English politics is unique: it’s a watershed, with rules being radically rewritten, not because an insurgent party is successfully challenging an unpopular incumbent (that happens) but because a popular incumbent is savaging an unpopular opposition.
Ex Labour voters in Essex now on Radio 4 - 'Talking about wallpaper during a pandemic!' one of the things that comes up. The sheer PETTINESS of Labour is so unattractive.
The vaccine boost in full swing, so how much can we conclude the 6 point Tory lead is because of that? I am going to conclude a lot
In which case, the polls are roughly right. And if they're right now, they were probably right in December, when C and L were roughly level. And C +6 is roughly one major government foulup from level pegging again.
You think Labour's going to hold its position in the polls now that Starmer's suffered one of the most humiliating by-election defeats in modern history and net losses across the country? Bold.
The government has been spraying money around to all and sundry for the past 12 months, the public finances are in a parlous state, but the voters don't give a monkey's nut about that. Millions of voters are being paid not to work, what's not to like?
However the party is almost over and the bills are going to start rolling in. Very tough economic decisions are going to be needed and in the midst of all that Boris is going to have to find the largesse to turn places like Hartlepool into the post-Brexit Nirvana that was promised.
You think the Tories are going to hold their position in the poll?. Bold.
I’m not so sure.
Add together the latest economic forecasts and the collective desire of the major powers to engineer a boom for the next couple of years, and I think Boris is going to be able to splash the cash right through to the election.
The reckoning comes later. If Labour is really unlucky, it will come during the first term of a weak Labour minority Government....
Inheriting the Tories mess and having to clear it up. Twas ever thus.
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However the party is almost over and the bills are going to start rolling in. Very tough economic decisions are going to be needed and in the midst of all that Boris is going to have to find the largesse to turn places like Hartlepool into the post-Brexit Nirvana that was promised.
You think the Tories are going to hold their position in the poll?. Bold.
Yet Burnham cleans up.
He’s playing poker with the bond market.
http://opencouncildata.co.uk/
Middlesex in lots of Payne at Lord’s.
And Sky picked the right match to cover!
Over a week ago: "Starmer could be down 200-250 councillors after next Thursday."
Add together the latest economic forecasts and the collective desire of the major powers to engineer a boom for the next couple of years, and I think Boris is going to be able to splash the cash right through to the election.
The reckoning comes later. If Labour is really unlucky, it will come during the first term of a weak Labour minority Government....
When the reality it is it is heavily skewed by age, Brexit and I believe the fact that Corbynisation of the Labour party and his policies of back to the 70s had those who are old enough to remember running a mile. While youngsters, who all of this is fresh, it sounds very appealing, given they have large student debt, expensive housing, many sold the false dream that a degree at f##k sticks metropolitan new university would result in a £100k a year job in the media and now they work in a call centre and still have to live at home with mum and dad.
How's Count Binface doing?
2010-2015 - Coalition government
Reset
2015-2016 - Cameron government
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Brexit
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2016-2019 - May minority government/(chaos)
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2019 - Boris government
So although the Tories have been in power for 11 years either alone or in coalition, due to the extraordinary decade we've been through they renewed themselves with each new administration.
Boris looks like he's in for the long term now so I'd expect the next 5-10 years will see things reverting to a more typical political cycle of opposition gains in local elections etc etc as the Johnson government gradually runs out of popularity.
Trapped school pupil triggered fire alarm at election count
A trapped school pupil sparked the fire alarm which delayed the Argyll and Bute election count.
Counting was temporarily halted on Friday for a full evacuation of the Mid Argyll sports centre in Lochgilphead.
It's understood a pupil at the adjacent Lochgilphead High School found themselves in a room where they couldn't get out without opening a fire door which then set off the alarm.
The full Highlands and Islands regional list result is now not expected until later this evening.
However what "woke" means when expressed in other ways would definitley be a factor in places like Hartlepool. Things like Starmer taking the knee (its not so much the black rights issue as obsessing about America in my view)
A trapped school pupil sparked the fire alarm which delayed the Argyll and Bute election count.
Counting was temporarily halted on Friday for a full evacuation of the Mid Argyll sports centre in Lochgilphead.
It's understood a pupil at the adjacent Lochgilphead High School found themselves in a room where they couldn't get out without opening a fire door which then set off the alarm.
The full Highlands and Islands regional list result is now not expected until later this evening.
https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1391038924391387139?s=20
EDIT - AND the Cone of Silence!
https://houseofollichon.co.uk/copy-of-drakeford-culotte/
https://houseofollichon.co.uk/drakeford-top1/
I have always felt the hysterical rage that some posters feels towards the Drake may perhaps have roots in sexual frustration, perhaps quantity or quality issues. There are deep waters here, who knows how the tender male psyche reacts when confronted with a five chillies hot Welsh university professor?
All down to disaffected Corbyn cult voters switching? Or genuine on the ground change?
https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/status/1391041530861916166?s=20
In betting sense, of course! Otherwise might be actionable?
Edit: Starmer taking the knee was definitely noticed. It's been mentioned in focus groups. It's a trojan horse for all sorts of things, which ends with people like them being pointed at and told they have "white privilege" and pulling down history and heritage.
I owe PB a personal apology for my fatally flawed anecdotal narrative that Johnson vaccinated Wales and Drakeford closed the pubs. Patently wrong. I hold my hands up.
It seems I had underestimated the love for the Drakester.
How often do you hear a Tory utter a bad word about past Tory governments? Nicholas Soames was on Newsnight last night praising Johnson - the man who kicked him out and ended his career
Tories are v serious about power
https://twitter.com/Freedland/status/1391032728674607108?s=20
I think that's the bit Labour sometimes fail to get - Labour are about policies the Conservatives about power, so if a Labour policy will help them gain or retain it, where's the harm in that? The reverse rarely applies (with one clear exception, Blair).
Hugely over performs the Party.
(*to the 20k Ladbrokes goldmine threshold)
Birmingham
Foster, Simon John Labour and Co-operative Party 111,852
Hambleton, Jools Independent 10,122
Hoath, Mark William Reform UK 4,743
Hunt, Jon Liberal Democrats 15,979
Jaddoo, Desmond Gustavus We Matter Party 4,029
Singh Sohal, Jay The Conservative Party Candidate 63,681
Coventry
Foster, Simon John Labour and Co-operative Party 37,101
Hambleton, Jools Independent 3,934
Hoath, Mark William Reform UK 2,629
Hunt, Jon Liberal Democrats 4,583
Jaddoo, Desmond Gustavus We Matter Party 775
Singh Sohal, Jay The Conservative Party Candidate 24,579
Sandwell
Foster, Simon John Labour and Co-operative Party 35,991
Hambleton, Jools Independent 2,496
Hoath, Mark William Reform UK 2,284
Hunt, Jon Liberal Democrats 2,649
Jaddoo, Desmond Gustavus We Matter Party 833
Singh Sohal, Jay The Conservative Party Candidate 22,445
Walsall
Foster, Simon John Labour and Co-operative Party 22,940
Hambleton, Jools Independent 2,515
Hoath, Mark William Reform UK 2.007
Hunt, Jon Liberal Democrats 2,928
Jaddoo, Desmond Gustavus We Matter Party 465
Singh Sohal, Jay The Conservative Party Candidate 28,840
Wolverhampton
Foster, Simon John Labour and Co-operative Party 28,231
Hambleton, Jools Independent 1,746
Hoath, Mark William Reform UK 1,664
Hunt, Jon Liberal Democrats 2,419
Jaddoo, Desmond Gustavus We Matter Party 489
Singh Sohal, Jay The Conservative Party Candidate 23,252
https://news.sky.com/story/conservatives-and-snp-agree-on-one-thing-indyref2-wont-happen-any-time-soon-12300228
Details of the “keep calm” strategy when/if Supreme Court rule Holyrood Indyref2 Act is illegal https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1391043762797875200
#BBCElections https://bbc.in/3tswnt2
And thanks for all the data you're posting!
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What’s happening in English politics is unique: it’s a watershed, with rules being radically rewritten, not because an insurgent party is successfully challenging an unpopular incumbent (that happens) but because a popular incumbent is savaging an unpopular opposition.
BBC: SNP are privately conceding they won't win Aberdeenshire West.
Means no SNP majority according to Prof John Curtis.
Grn: 53.3% (+53.3)
Lab: 31.3% (-39.2)
Con: 13.4% (+2.6)
Oth: 1.9% (+1.9)
No UKIP (-18.7) as prev.
Grn GAIN from Lab
But then Great British Public has NEVER been notable for keen fashion sense.
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Labour plans to overhaul its offer to voters and move staff out of London after election defeats in England https://bbc.in/3uB1NPa #BBCElections
Sir Keir Starmer
Elections 2021: Labour plans changes after election defeats in England
A policy overhaul and frontbench reshuffle are expected in response to a series of election setbacks.
bbc.com
Looks like a slump in Islington property prices on the way - they're all moving to Hartlepool! Anyone gonna tell Lady Nugent?
https://twitter.com/andy4wm/status/1390275152659636232?s=20
Annsieland: 41.7%
Maryhill: 47.1%
Pollock 49%
Rutherglen: 42.2%
Southside: 41.1%