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  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,974
    Chameleon said:

    Lab *hold* Sunderland. Majority of a couple, which will be lost next year.

    Or sooner, if a handful of councillors see the way the wind is blowing and rebadge....
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,971
    MarqueeMark said:

    On the BBC site, Labour have lost a third of their councillors - was 27 to 18 now (so far).

    Have the Tories lost any seats? I don't remember seeing any.
  • CursingStoneCursingStone Posts: 421
    MarqueeMark said:

    Chameleon said:

    Lab *hold* Sunderland. Majority of a couple, which will be lost next year.

    Or sooner, if a handful of councillors see the way the wind is blowing and rebadge....
    Rotten parties that have held a council for a long time are full of schisms. They could easily splinter.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,971
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    RobD said:

    42.5% for the parliamentary election. Much lower than thought.

    Yes Sky had indicated 58% earlier
    Sounded far too high because that was the turnout at the GE and it almost always goes down at BEs.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,974
    Thurrock:

    Chadwell St Mary:

    Con: 45.4% (+34.4)
    Lab: 39.3% (-4.8)
    IndyGrp: 15.3% (+15.3)

    Con gain from Lab
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited May 2021
    Can I just ask this one question, what was the Labour party thinking when they selected a former MP as the candidate in Hartlepool who had voted against Brexit I think 46 times (according to Skynews) in votes at Westminster during his brief tenure there in a constituency that was uber Brexit?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    St Anne's (Sunderland) council result:

    Con: 42.0% (+13.5)
    Lab: 41.9% (-29.5)
    UKIP: 8.8% (+8.8)
    LDem: 7.3% (+7.3)

    Con GAIN from Lab
    More: https://newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2021/05/2021-english-local-election-results-ward-ward

    Conservatives win by two votes.

    https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1390495559107153924?s=20
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,974
    Andy_JS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    On the BBC site, Labour have lost a third of their councillors - was 27 to 18 now (so far).

    Have the Tories lost any seats? I don't remember seeing any.
    I think at least one to an independent....
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    Think this classic performance by a true legend is also appropriate tonight, certainly the title:

    Bonnie Raitt - Something To Talk About
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQLpRBDrhn8&list=RDMM&index=6
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    HARTLEPOOL confirmed turnout figures:

    Local election turnout: 47%
    Parliamentary by-election: 42.55%
    PCC: 41.75%
    Combined authority mayor: 41.71%

    https://twitter.com/katewilsea/status/1390495087579340804?s=20
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    Andy_JS said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    RobD said:

    42.5% for the parliamentary election. Much lower than thought.

    Yes Sky had indicated 58% earlier
    Sounded far too high because that was the turnout at the GE and it almost always goes down at BEs.
    Thought they (or somebody) said 50% today versus 58% at GE.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    edited May 2021
    Sunderland - 28 elected tonight:

    Lab 15 (-9)
    Con 8 (+6)
    LD 5 (+4)
    Green 0 (-1)
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    fitalass said:

    Can I just ask this one question, what was the Labour party thinking when they selected a former MP as the candidate in Hartlepool who had voted against Brexit I think 46 times (according to Skynews) in votes at Westminster during his brief tenure there in a constituency that was uber Brexit?

    They were NOT thinking.
  • TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 3,840
    edited May 2021
    Evening folks.

    I assume Labour are smashing it everywhere thanks to Keir Starmers strategy of attacking the left to attract right votes.

    I guess I have to be the bigger man at this point and concede that I was wrong about the electoral pay off of Starmers strategy. Also I have made constant remarks about him being less electable than Jeremy Corbyn....

    Well, egg on my face.

    To be serious for a moment, all thoroughly deserved and predictable.

    Edit: Also this might be why Tories like Topping likes Starmer whilst left wingers don't.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,974
    SeaShantyIrish2 said:

    Think this classic performance by a true legend is also appropriate tonight, certainly the title:

    Bonnie Raitt - Something To Talk About
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQLpRBDrhn8&list=RDMM&index=6

    For the more cautious: Bonnie Raitt - Too Soon To Tell

    https://www.google.com/search?q=bonnie+raitt+too+soon+to+tell&oq=bonnie+raitt+too+soon+&aqs=chrome.0.0i355j46j69i57j0i22i30l4.19692j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,971
    fitalass said:

    Can I just ask this one question, what was the Labour party thinking when they selected a former MP as the candidate in Hartlepool who had voted against Brexit I think 46 times (according to Skynews) in votes at Westminster during his brief tenure there in a constituency that was uber Brexit?

    RochdaleLabour on this site was asking the same thing at the time of the selection.
  • Cocky_cockneyCocky_cockney Posts: 760
    fitalass said:

    Can I just ask this one question, what was the Labour party thinking when they selected a former MP as the candidate in Hartlepool who had voted against Brexit I think 46 times (according to Skynews) in votes at Westminster during his brief tenure there in a constituency that was uber Brexit?

    Dr Paul Wiliams is Keir Starmer's friend. He wanted him back in Parliament.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    TheJezziah said:

    Evening folks.

    I assume Labour are smashing it everywhere thanks to Keir Starmers strategy of attacking the left to attract right votes.

    Yeah.

    People are voting Conservative because what they really want is a more left wing Labour party......
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,971
    SeaShantyIrish2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    RobD said:

    42.5% for the parliamentary election. Much lower than thought.

    Yes Sky had indicated 58% earlier
    Sounded far too high because that was the turnout at the GE and it almost always goes down at BEs.
    Thought they (or somebody) said 50% today versus 58% at GE.
    They kept changing it. It was 50% to begin with, and then 58% later on.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,971
    MarqueeMark said:

    Andy_JS said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    On the BBC site, Labour have lost a third of their councillors - was 27 to 18 now (so far).

    Have the Tories lost any seats? I don't remember seeing any.
    I think at least one to an independent....
    Which council was it? if you can remember.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,974
    Thurrock:

    East Tilbury Ward

    Con: 42.8% (+22.8)
    Ind: 40.5% (+40.5)
    Lab: 16.7% (-4.8)

    No UKIP (-58.5) as prev.

    Con GAIN from UKIP
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    NEW THREAD
  • TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 3,840
    CarlottaVance said:

    TheJezziah said:

    Evening folks.

    I assume Labour are smashing it everywhere thanks to Keir Starmers strategy of attacking the left to attract right votes.

    Yeah.

    People are voting Conservative because what they really want is a more left wing Labour party......
    People aren't voting Labour because Labour is offering them nothing, people who had been voting Labour under Corbyn and other Labour leaders.

    I realise Tories are desperate to keep the golden goose in place but Labour are losing votes everywhere not just Tories, Starmer is electorally useless.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,974
    Councillors: Labour 39 (-17)

    Cons 28 (+16)

    LD 12 (+4)

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c481drqqzv7t/england-local-elections-2021
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited May 2021
    MikeL said:

    Sunderland - 28 elected tonight:

    Lab 15 (-9)
    Con 8 (+6)
    LD 5 (+4)
    Green 0 (-1)

    Just wow, in all the years I have followed election night counts, that is the kind of results I never expected to see in somewhere like Sunderland. And I say that as someone who while being poles apart politically, then became a big fan of former Labour MP for Sunderland South Chris Mullin's diaries.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,971
    fitalass said:

    MikeL said:

    Sunderland - 28 elected tonight:

    Lab 15 (-9)
    Con 8 (+6)
    LD 5 (+4)
    Green 0 (-1)

    Just wow, in all the years I have followed election night counts, that is the kind of results I never expected to see in somewhere like Sunderland. And I say that as someone who while being poles apart politically, then became a big fan of former Labour MP for Sunderland South Chris Mullin's diaries.
    He also wrote "A Very British Coup" which was turned into a TV series IIRC.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,591
    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    Chameleon said:

    Wow, seen someone semi-credible on twitter claiming that they think that Con wins Hartlepool by 20pts.

    Gadzooks.
    To be fair, we're seeing Cons hoovering up the UKIP/BXP vote everywhere, which would be consistent with a victory of that margin in Hartlepool.
    Less than 10% seats my way had UKIP last time, interesting to see trends in areas without them.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,591
    RobD said:

    Chameleon said:


    Britain Elects
    @BritainElects
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    Pallion (Sunderland) council result:

    LDem: 59.4% (+55.2)
    Lab: 19.8% (-29.3)
    Con: 16.9% (+4.7)
    Grn: 3.8% (+0.5)

    No UKIP (-28.0) as prev.

    LDem GAIN from Lab


    Serious squeaky bum time for Labour.

    Hats off to the Lib Dems, that's a huge increase.
    Amusingly winning from the 'cant win here' position on the bar chart.
  • BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556
    edited May 2021
    Test
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