Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I think that situation only arises if they start vaccinating 24 hours with the night time vaccinations being available to anyone for payment.
Why? Pfizer and Moderna (at least) are absolutely private companies seeking a profit. Imagine a large private health company says "We have tens of thousands of wealthy clients around the world, mainly in LA, NYC, London, and Paris, all willing to pay $1000 per jab. We are therefore willing to pay $500 a jab rather than $30 a jab. Please give us 50,000"
Will Pfizer really ignore this easy and massive profit? I doubt it.
According to reports, the reason Israel is doing so well is because their government privately paid LOADS of money per Pfizer jab, very early on.
Money talks. And saves lives.
I doubt it was the money that made Israel first - agreeing to provide side effect and other data back from the largest sample is what will have made Israel priority 1.
Bless, You think an unexpected early deal between - cough - Israel- - and - cough - Pfizer - was made on the basis of the sharing of medical data?
Israel. And. Pfizer.
Hm.
Or the deal was made because Israel agreed to pay BILLIONS over the odds to secure the global life-raft of the Jewish people? Colour me cynical, but I suspect a large amount of money played a significant role
If you are a say at 40 year old, that makes several million a year and your job requires you to fly around the world, I can see those kind of people easily splashing out £10k+ for get their jab. Because otherwise they will more than likely be waiting until late summer / autumn. That's a long time for somebody who makes that kind of money.
Or you are someone that earns, I dunno, £100-200k a year, and your job requires close social interaction or travel, yet you have beloved family members who are very vulnerable, who you haven't seen in a year.
In fact, take that salary down to £70k a year (quite a few people). It's just £1000 for a jab. It allows you to hug your mother/sister/lover. A lot of people would pay it, I reckon. It is less than the price of a holiday and this means much much more than a holiday. But we shall see.
At a £1000, they would be overrun with takers, it would be a no-brainer for loads of people. Any grey-market will be a lot higher than that.
These factories are turning out the vaccine by the millions already: in the USA, UK, India, EU. There will be a sweet spot when you might maybe get £5k a jab, but the price will fall by the day as many are vaccinated for free and more vaccines are produced.
It's almost impossible to predict but £1k a jab seems a reasonable price in about a week
And nine months after taking the jab you find out the hard way it didn't work and the nameplate on the doctor's door has changed? Or it hasn't changed and they just say 'Sorry, but only 90% effective; you just unlucky." Door slams.
Good luck, mate.
Not much different to privately buying a flu vaccine, surely?
Given the survival rate of covid-19 is over 99% and even more so for those not getting vaccinated right now then it hardly matters does it? the point of vaccination is to get society going again
What I would say is that at this time of the year asparagus normally comes from Peru or Kenya, baby corn from India or Thailand, pineapples from Costa Rica, etc. When I think on this most of this stuff comes with a lot of airmiles and does not come from the EU.
Was there less salad? I don't think so but I couldn't really say. What foodstuffs from the EU are we likely to need?
Sorry to be an insufferable food snob, but nobody should be buying Peruvian asparagus. Wait for the short English season in May and eat your fill until your pee is bilious green. Then wait until next year. The Peruvian stuff is really tough in comparison!
I really like English asparagus but I am not willing to do without it 48 weeks a year. If you microwave it it gets soft enough. I also like it with soy sauce and parmesan. Hey, I have finally thought of an EU food that we import.
If you leave ordinary cheddar out unwrapped in fairly small lumps, it goes rock hard and yellow like parmesan. It is a passable substitute.
What I would say is that at this time of the year asparagus normally comes from Peru or Kenya, baby corn from India or Thailand, pineapples from Costa Rica, etc. When I think on this most of this stuff comes with a lot of airmiles and does not come from the EU.
Was there less salad? I don't think so but I couldn't really say. What foodstuffs from the EU are we likely to need?
Sorry to be an insufferable food snob, but nobody should be buying Peruvian asparagus. Wait for the short English season in May and eat your fill until your pee is bilious green. Then wait until next year. The Peruvian stuff is really tough in comparison!
I really like English asparagus but I am not willing to do without it 48 weeks a year. If you microwave it it gets soft enough. I also like it with soy sauce and parmesan. Hey, I have finally thought of an EU food that we import.
Roast or grill it, adorned with Camargue fleur de sel and scattered chili flakes?
When we moved into our current house 10 years ago we put a large asparagus bed in the garden.
For the first few years we weren't sure they were going to survive. But for the past five years we've had huge crops of asparagus from St. George's day to mid-summer day. We're eating it every other day in May. And it's absolutely divine.
We never touch asparagus any other time of the year because a) it never compares with our own and b) by July we are asparagused-out and need a break.
Food seasonality has its charms and should br respected.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
I can remember what greengrocers were like pre-1973 in the autumn to spring months. Not quite wall to wall turnips, kail, other brassicas, carrots and spuds, not far off it outside the twee urban specialists. That's a hell of a reversion, for a start.
What I still don't quite understand is how I can still buy everything at the shops I want when RP says that the system isn't fit for purpose. We're 13 days into the year, during a pandemic when everyone is eating at home. How come the delays aren't feeding through to problems yet?
Because: 1. We've just had Christmas. Retailers stockpile the shit out of stuff hoping to sell it 2. We've just had a "never mind that shit here comes Mungo Brexit" event which led to so much stuff being force imported in December that the chaos at ports was widely reported 3. We're eating at home but the industry was stocked up for a Christmas that got cancelled at the last minute. Foodstuffs not eaten in hastily closed restaurants can be redirected.
There is a real and growing shortage of fresh food. It isn't universal yet because supply chain inefficiencies. But it is there. And everything else? We're burning through imported stockpiles.
But cross border traffic is just 20% of normal. We can't keep going for much longer before major gaps appear. Nor can the logistics industry keep going as it is - in Norniron they have said they fall over within a week
Is there a Vanilla facility to 'save' a post? It would be fun to have a little 'wallet' of saved posts to look at in the future like a photo album of embarrassing school pics.
Feel free to bookmark me. I'm not saying anything that an increasingly alarmed industry isn't saying. What would they know about it?
A different view re Northern Ireland but what would they know about it:
Supply problems for NI supermarkets are being overcome, a retail industry representative has told MPs.
There have been shortages of some products in supermarkets across NI.
It comes as retailers grapple with post-Brexit arrangements for importing food products from GB.
The problems were an "inevitable consequence" of the lateness in finalising the new trade arrangements, according to Andrew Opie, director of the British Retail Consortium.
But he warned problems would re-emerge if further new certification requirements are introduced in April.
"We did not get the final confirmation of how products could move until 31 December for a 1 January start," said Mr Opie.
"Therefore some products had more of a problem or were being held back for supply into Northern Ireland.
"Those shortages have been overcome now, pretty much."
It's strange that the supermarkets are screaming a day ago while a one step removed quango is saying it's all fine.
So we'll see what happens.
I will ask my friends in Northern Ireland when they go shopping next - I suspect the articles I've posted point a more accurate picture than the story you linked to.
We'll see.
Though I suspect if there were significant shortages in Northern Ireland then the supermarkets would have panic buying of everything they did have.
What I would say is that at this time of the year asparagus normally comes from Peru or Kenya, baby corn from India or Thailand, pineapples from Costa Rica, etc. When I think on this most of this stuff comes with a lot of airmiles and does not come from the EU.
Was there less salad? I don't think so but I couldn't really say. What foodstuffs from the EU are we likely to need?
Sorry to be an insufferable food snob, but nobody should be buying Peruvian asparagus. Wait for the short English season in May and eat your fill until your pee is bilious green. Then wait until next year. The Peruvian stuff is really tough in comparison!
I really like English asparagus but I am not willing to do without it 48 weeks a year. If you microwave it it gets soft enough. I also like it with soy sauce and parmesan. Hey, I have finally thought of an EU food that we import.
Roast or grill it, adorned with Camargue fleur de sel and scattered chili flakes?
Camargue fleur de sel, that would be salt for us lesser mortals, yes?
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I think that situation only arises if they start vaccinating 24 hours with the night time vaccinations being available to anyone for payment.
Why? Pfizer and Moderna (at least) are absolutely private companies seeking a profit. Imagine a large private health company says "We have tens of thousands of wealthy clients around the world, mainly in LA, NYC, London, and Paris, all willing to pay $1000 per jab. We are therefore willing to pay $500 a jab rather than $30 a jab. Please give us 50,000"
Will Pfizer really ignore this easy and massive profit? I doubt it.
According to reports, the reason Israel is doing so well is because their government privately paid LOADS of money per Pfizer jab, very early on.
Money talks. And saves lives.
I doubt it was the money that made Israel first - agreeing to provide side effect and other data back from the largest sample is what will have made Israel priority 1.
Bless, You think an unexpected early deal between - cough - Israel- - and - cough - Pfizer - was made on the basis of the sharing of medical data?
Israel. And. Pfizer.
Hm.
Or the deal was made because Israel agreed to pay BILLIONS over the odds to secure the global life-raft of the Jewish people? Colour me cynical, but I suspect a large amount of money played a significant role
The issue is how long does having been infected give you immunity.
No, that's quite important. If you've had it (like 1 in 5 Brits?) then you are seriously immune. For a long time. It is good news. Because it has been much discussed and doubted.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
I can remember what greengrocers were like pre-1973 in the autumn to spring months. Not quite wall to wall turnips, kail, other brassicas, carrots and spuds, not far off it outside the twee urban specialists. That's a hell of a reversion, for a start.
What I still don't quite understand is how I can still buy everything at the shops I want when RP says that the system isn't fit for purpose. We're 13 days into the year, during a pandemic when everyone is eating at home. How come the delays aren't feeding through to problems yet?
Because: 1. We've just had Christmas. Retailers stockpile the shit out of stuff hoping to sell it 2. We've just had a "never mind that shit here comes Mungo Brexit" event which led to so much stuff being force imported in December that the chaos at ports was widely reported 3. We're eating at home but the industry was stocked up for a Christmas that got cancelled at the last minute. Foodstuffs not eaten in hastily closed restaurants can be redirected.
There is a real and growing shortage of fresh food. It isn't universal yet because supply chain inefficiencies. But it is there. And everything else? We're burning through imported stockpiles.
But cross border traffic is just 20% of normal. We can't keep going for much longer before major gaps appear. Nor can the logistics industry keep going as it is - in Norniron they have said they fall over within a week
Is there a Vanilla facility to 'save' a post? It would be fun to have a little 'wallet' of saved posts to look at in the future like a photo album of embarrassing school pics.
Feel free to bookmark me. I'm not saying anything that an increasingly alarmed industry isn't saying. What would they know about it?
A different view re Northern Ireland but what would they know about it:
Supply problems for NI supermarkets are being overcome, a retail industry representative has told MPs.
There have been shortages of some products in supermarkets across NI.
It comes as retailers grapple with post-Brexit arrangements for importing food products from GB.
The problems were an "inevitable consequence" of the lateness in finalising the new trade arrangements, according to Andrew Opie, director of the British Retail Consortium.
But he warned problems would re-emerge if further new certification requirements are introduced in April.
"We did not get the final confirmation of how products could move until 31 December for a 1 January start," said Mr Opie.
"Therefore some products had more of a problem or were being held back for supply into Northern Ireland.
"Those shortages have been overcome now, pretty much."
It's strange that the supermarkets are screaming a day ago while a one step removed quango is saying it's all fine.
So we'll see what happens.
I will ask my friends in Northern Ireland when they go shopping next - I suspect the articles I've posted point a more accurate picture than the story you linked to.
We'll see.
Though I suspect if there were significant shortages in Northern Ireland then the supermarkets would have panic buying of everything they did have.
yes empty aisle after empty aisle , even Clive Cussler books gone
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
Nothing. I wouldn't take it ahead of anyone who needs it more than me, which is probably at least 60% of the country. Plus I think it's immoral that anyone would.
And I believe in the free market. So I guess that's my principles out of the window too.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I think that situation only arises if they start vaccinating 24 hours with the night time vaccinations being available to anyone for payment.
Why? Pfizer and Moderna (at least) are absolutely private companies seeking a profit. Imagine a large private health company says "We have tens of thousands of wealthy clients around the world, mainly in LA, NYC, London, and Paris, all willing to pay $1000 per jab. We are therefore willing to pay $500 a jab rather than $30 a jab. Please give us 50,000"
Will Pfizer really ignore this easy and massive profit? I doubt it.
According to reports, the reason Israel is doing so well is because their government privately paid LOADS of money per Pfizer jab, very early on.
Money talks. And saves lives.
I doubt it was the money that made Israel first - agreeing to provide side effect and other data back from the largest sample is what will have made Israel priority 1.
Bless, You think an unexpected early deal between - cough - Israel- - and - cough - Pfizer - was made on the basis of the sharing of medical data?
Israel. And. Pfizer.
Hm.
Or the deal was made because Israel agreed to pay BILLIONS over the odds to secure the global life-raft of the Jewish people? Colour me cynical, but I suspect a large amount of money played a significant role
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
Nothing. I wouldn't take it ahead of anyone who needs it more than me, which is probably at least 60% of the country. Plus I think it's immoral that anyone would.
And I believe in the free market. So I guess that's my principles out of the window too.
I think the country will be awash with vaccines by Easter, so private sales won't really be an issue.
If you are a say at 40 year old, that makes several million a year and your job requires you to fly around the world, I can see those kind of people easily splashing out £10k+ for get their jab. Because otherwise they will more than likely be waiting until late summer / autumn. That's a long time for somebody who makes that kind of money.
Or you are someone that earns, I dunno, £100-200k a year, and your job requires close social interaction or travel, yet you have beloved family members who are very vulnerable, who you haven't seen in a year.
In fact, take that salary down to £70k a year (quite a few people). It's just £1000 for a jab. It allows you to hug your mother/sister/lover. A lot of people would pay it, I reckon. It is less than the price of a holiday and this means much much more than a holiday. But we shall see.
At a £1000, they would be overrun with takers, it would be a no-brainer for loads of people. Any grey-market will be a lot higher than that.
These factories are turning out the vaccine by the millions already: in the USA, UK, India, EU. There will be a sweet spot when you might maybe get £5k a jab, but the price will fall by the day as many are vaccinated for free and more vaccines are produced.
It's almost impossible to predict but £1k a jab seems a reasonable price in about a week
It’s absolutely pointless paying for a vaccine if, like me, you are a slim(ish) guy in your 40s with no underlying health conditions. I can’t do anything anyway until the at risk groups are vaccinated. And, if you are in the high risk groups, you should be immunised in the next few weeks. Many will prefer to lock themselves in their homes for a month and save £££.
Indeed, as a slimmish guy in my early 30s I am more concerned about a) my parents getting jabbed and b) the regs easing than I am about getting a vaccine myself.
Struggling to re-adjust my mental image of an antiquarian bookseller who turns out to be in his 30s.
I appreciate that antiquarian refers to the books, not the seller, but still...
The issue is how long does having been infected give you immunity.
The research says that infection-conferred immunity is as good or better than that from vaccination, in terms of longevity. That is big news for the key reason that if you have had Covid, you surely need not be vaccinated? Helps the vaccination programme I would think?
The issue is how long does having been infected give you immunity.
No, that's quite important. If you've had it (like 1 in 5 Brits?) then you are seriously immune. For a long time. It is good news. Because it has been much discussed and doubted.
That would be good news.
Though I'm not sure how they can know until time passes.
And there's always the risk of different variants which you might not have as much immunity to.
What I would say is that at this time of the year asparagus normally comes from Peru or Kenya, baby corn from India or Thailand, pineapples from Costa Rica, etc. When I think on this most of this stuff comes with a lot of airmiles and does not come from the EU.
Was there less salad? I don't think so but I couldn't really say. What foodstuffs from the EU are we likely to need?
Sorry to be an insufferable food snob, but nobody should be buying Peruvian asparagus. Wait for the short English season in May and eat your fill until your pee is bilious green. Then wait until next year. The Peruvian stuff is really tough in comparison!
I really like English asparagus but I am not willing to do without it 48 weeks a year. If you microwave it it gets soft enough. I also like it with soy sauce and parmesan. Hey, I have finally thought of an EU food that we import.
Roast or grill it, adorned with Camargue fleur de sel and scattered chili flakes?
Camargue fleur de sel, that would be salt for us lesser mortals, yes?
It is the biz. In terms of salt. A "finishing salt"
Northern Ireland trade and supply does seem to be more of an issue than UK/EU trade right now. Which raises some interesting questions about the efficacy of Boris's as opposed to May's deal.
What I would say is that at this time of the year asparagus normally comes from Peru or Kenya, baby corn from India or Thailand, pineapples from Costa Rica, etc. When I think on this most of this stuff comes with a lot of airmiles and does not come from the EU.
Was there less salad? I don't think so but I couldn't really say. What foodstuffs from the EU are we likely to need?
Sorry to be an insufferable food snob, but nobody should be buying Peruvian asparagus. Wait for the short English season in May and eat your fill until your pee is bilious green. Then wait until next year. The Peruvian stuff is really tough in comparison!
I really like English asparagus but I am not willing to do without it 48 weeks a year. If you microwave it it gets soft enough. I also like it with soy sauce and parmesan. Hey, I have finally thought of an EU food that we import.
Roast or grill it, adorned with Camargue fleur de sel and scattered chili flakes?
When we moved into our current house 10 years ago we put a large asparagus bed in the garden.
For the first few years we weren't sure they were going to survive. But for the past five years we've had huge crops of asparagus from St. George's day to mid-summer day. We're eating it every other day in May. And it's absolutely divine.
We never touch asparagus any other time of the year because a) it never compares with our own and b) by July we are asparagused-out and need a break.
Food seasonality has its charms and should br respected.
What I would say is that at this time of the year asparagus normally comes from Peru or Kenya, baby corn from India or Thailand, pineapples from Costa Rica, etc. When I think on this most of this stuff comes with a lot of airmiles and does not come from the EU.
Was there less salad? I don't think so but I couldn't really say. What foodstuffs from the EU are we likely to need?
Sorry to be an insufferable food snob, but nobody should be buying Peruvian asparagus. Wait for the short English season in May and eat your fill until your pee is bilious green. Then wait until next year. The Peruvian stuff is really tough in comparison!
I really like English asparagus but I am not willing to do without it 48 weeks a year. If you microwave it it gets soft enough. I also like it with soy sauce and parmesan. Hey, I have finally thought of an EU food that we import.
Roast or grill it, adorned with Camargue fleur de sel and scattered chili flakes?
When we moved into our current house 10 years ago we put a large asparagus bed in the garden.
For the first few years we weren't sure they were going to survive. But for the past five years we've had huge crops of asparagus from St. George's day to mid-summer day. We're eating it every other day in May. And it's absolutely divine.
We never touch asparagus any other time of the year because a) it never compares with our own and b) by July we are asparagused-out and need a break.
Food seasonality has its charms and should br respected.
Yep massive fan of food seasonality. As i have said before I will never buy fresh imported food that has a season in the UK. That has nothing at all to do with the EU. It applies to any imported foods which can be grown in the UK.
This has made our food hugely more enjoyable. That connection to the seasons and the anticipation of the next seasonal food to appear really makes it a lot more interesting and fun. It has also made me try and learn the enjoyment of many more foods I previously couldn't be bothered with. There is simply no time of year now when I can't get a good supply of a large variety of different fruit and veg. There is just no need to buy imported stuff.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I think that situation only arises if they start vaccinating 24 hours with the night time vaccinations being available to anyone for payment.
Why? Pfizer and Moderna (at least) are absolutely private companies seeking a profit. Imagine a large private health company says "We have tens of thousands of wealthy clients around the world, mainly in LA, NYC, London, and Paris, all willing to pay $1000 per jab. We are therefore willing to pay $500 a jab rather than $30 a jab. Please give us 50,000"
Will Pfizer really ignore this easy and massive profit? I doubt it.
According to reports, the reason Israel is doing so well is because their government privately paid LOADS of money per Pfizer jab, very early on.
Money talks. And saves lives.
I doubt it was the money that made Israel first - agreeing to provide side effect and other data back from the largest sample is what will have made Israel priority 1.
Bless, You think an unexpected early deal between - cough - Israel- - and - cough - Pfizer - was made on the basis of the sharing of medical data?
Israel. And. Pfizer.
Hm.
Or the deal was made because Israel agreed to pay BILLIONS over the odds to secure the global life-raft of the Jewish people? Colour me cynical, but I suspect a large amount of money played a significant role
Erm, more than a few tropes in that post. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
What I would say is that at this time of the year asparagus normally comes from Peru or Kenya, baby corn from India or Thailand, pineapples from Costa Rica, etc. When I think on this most of this stuff comes with a lot of airmiles and does not come from the EU.
Was there less salad? I don't think so but I couldn't really say. What foodstuffs from the EU are we likely to need?
Sorry to be an insufferable food snob, but nobody should be buying Peruvian asparagus. Wait for the short English season in May and eat your fill until your pee is bilious green. Then wait until next year. The Peruvian stuff is really tough in comparison!
I really like English asparagus but I am not willing to do without it 48 weeks a year. If you microwave it it gets soft enough. I also like it with soy sauce and parmesan. Hey, I have finally thought of an EU food that we import.
Roast or grill it, adorned with Camargue fleur de sel and scattered chili flakes?
Camargue fleur de sel, that would be salt for us lesser mortals, yes?
It is the biz. In terms of salt. A "finishing salt"
NaCl in crystalline form? I think I will put the extra money aside in case I need to buy a vaccine. 😉
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I think that situation only arises if they start vaccinating 24 hours with the night time vaccinations being available to anyone for payment.
Why? Pfizer and Moderna (at least) are absolutely private companies seeking a profit. Imagine a large private health company says "We have tens of thousands of wealthy clients around the world, mainly in LA, NYC, London, and Paris, all willing to pay $1000 per jab. We are therefore willing to pay $500 a jab rather than $30 a jab. Please give us 50,000"
Will Pfizer really ignore this easy and massive profit? I doubt it.
According to reports, the reason Israel is doing so well is because their government privately paid LOADS of money per Pfizer jab, very early on.
Money talks. And saves lives.
I doubt it was the money that made Israel first - agreeing to provide side effect and other data back from the largest sample is what will have made Israel priority 1.
Bless, You think an unexpected early deal between - cough - Israel- - and - cough - Pfizer - was made on the basis of the sharing of medical data?
Israel. And. Pfizer.
Hm.
Or the deal was made because Israel agreed to pay BILLIONS over the odds to secure the global life-raft of the Jewish people? Colour me cynical, but I suspect a large amount of money played a significant role
You are Jeremy Corbyn and I claim my £5.
Hardly. If Israel was prepared to pay oodles of wonga to save the Jewish state, first, then fair enough. I am not complaining, or accusing.
This whole process will be run, in terms of priority, by who has the cash, power and intellectual property. I'm not aware of an EU programme to divert some of their precious and expensive Pfizer jabs to Africa, for instance, so as to immunise the infinitely poorer, vulnerable people south of Sicily.
Likewise, I don't see many Democrats in DC saying America must hand over its vaccines to the poorer people of Mexico or Brazil who have an even worse problem.
What I would say is that at this time of the year asparagus normally comes from Peru or Kenya, baby corn from India or Thailand, pineapples from Costa Rica, etc. When I think on this most of this stuff comes with a lot of airmiles and does not come from the EU.
Was there less salad? I don't think so but I couldn't really say. What foodstuffs from the EU are we likely to need?
Sorry to be an insufferable food snob, but nobody should be buying Peruvian asparagus. Wait for the short English season in May and eat your fill until your pee is bilious green. Then wait until next year. The Peruvian stuff is really tough in comparison!
I really like English asparagus but I am not willing to do without it 48 weeks a year. If you microwave it it gets soft enough. I also like it with soy sauce and parmesan. Hey, I have finally thought of an EU food that we import.
Roast or grill it, adorned with Camargue fleur de sel and scattered chili flakes?
Camargue fleur de sel, that would be salt for us lesser mortals, yes?
It is the biz. In terms of salt. A "finishing salt"
I'd love to see you attempt to pick it out in a blind salt test
Still, if it makes you feel better knowing that's what you've used, keep on using it!
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
And her brains too.
How would you know it was kosher?
Harley Street clinics are already asking people to sign up if they are interested in a private jab
"Work and pensions secretary Thérèse Coffey has admitted that the Government would not be able to stop private vaccine purchases. One website, the Harley Street Clinic Guide, which claims to connect people with the best doctors on London’s famous Harley Street, is already allowing people to pre-register their interest in getting a private jab. "
These clinics would not to utterly Chartwell, sorry, ruin their brand by dishing out the dodgy Chinese vax. It will be kosher
Moderna are a known seller to the private sector from Feb/March. I know lots of my friends around the city have got their employers making inquiries about having someone from a clinic come to offices with a few hundred doses per day. My workplace is looking into it as well for around April so we can get the office reopened.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
My Albanian taxi driver told me the exact same story the other day...
What I would say is that at this time of the year asparagus normally comes from Peru or Kenya, baby corn from India or Thailand, pineapples from Costa Rica, etc. When I think on this most of this stuff comes with a lot of airmiles and does not come from the EU.
Was there less salad? I don't think so but I couldn't really say. What foodstuffs from the EU are we likely to need?
Sorry to be an insufferable food snob, but nobody should be buying Peruvian asparagus. Wait for the short English season in May and eat your fill until your pee is bilious green. Then wait until next year. The Peruvian stuff is really tough in comparison!
I really like English asparagus but I am not willing to do without it 48 weeks a year. If you microwave it it gets soft enough. I also like it with soy sauce and parmesan. Hey, I have finally thought of an EU food that we import.
Roast or grill it, adorned with Camargue fleur de sel and scattered chili flakes?
Camargue fleur de sel, that would be salt for us lesser mortals, yes?
It is the biz. In terms of salt. A "finishing salt"
NaCl in crystalline form? I think I will put the extra money aside in case I need to buy a vaccine. 😉
Yebbut... once in crystal form it has extra energy and healing properties, innit?
I'd pay a hundred quid for either of the Pfizer or Moderna jab, no more. I'm pretty tight and in good health. I suspect I'll get Oxford around September time.
If you are a say at 40 year old, that makes several million a year and your job requires you to fly around the world, I can see those kind of people easily splashing out £10k+ for get their jab. Because otherwise they will more than likely be waiting until late summer / autumn. That's a long time for somebody who makes that kind of money.
Or you are someone that earns, I dunno, £100-200k a year, and your job requires close social interaction or travel, yet you have beloved family members who are very vulnerable, who you haven't seen in a year.
In fact, take that salary down to £70k a year (quite a few people). It's just £1000 for a jab. It allows you to hug your mother/sister/lover. A lot of people would pay it, I reckon. It is less than the price of a holiday and this means much much more than a holiday. But we shall see.
At a £1000, they would be overrun with takers, it would be a no-brainer for loads of people. Any grey-market will be a lot higher than that.
These factories are turning out the vaccine by the millions already: in the USA, UK, India, EU. There will be a sweet spot when you might maybe get £5k a jab, but the price will fall by the day as many are vaccinated for free and more vaccines are produced.
It's almost impossible to predict but £1k a jab seems a reasonable price in about a week
It’s absolutely pointless paying for a vaccine if, like me, you are a slim(ish) guy in your 40s with no underlying health conditions. I can’t do anything anyway until the at risk groups are vaccinated. And, if you are in the high risk groups, you should be immunised in the next few weeks. Many will prefer to lock themselves in their homes for a month and save £££.
Indeed, as a slimmish guy in my early 30s I am more concerned about a) my parents getting jabbed and b) the regs easing than I am about getting a vaccine myself.
Struggling to re-adjust my mental image of an antiquarian bookseller who turns out to be in his 30s.
I appreciate that antiquarian refers to the books, not the seller, but still...
Anyway your post is spot on.
Ha ha, I often tease Mortimer as being a young fogey. I’m probably just jealous of his youth. He’s a juvenile Tory dusty bookseller and therefore something of an outlier. But a good guy.
Northern Ireland trade and supply does seem to be more of an issue than UK/EU trade right now. Which raises some interesting questions about the efficacy of Boris's as opposed to May's deal.
Not to mention the stupidity of the DUP.
They really did addicted to the 'Ulster says NO' mentality.
If you are a say at 40 year old, that makes several million a year and your job requires you to fly around the world, I can see those kind of people easily splashing out £10k+ for get their jab. Because otherwise they will more than likely be waiting until late summer / autumn. That's a long time for somebody who makes that kind of money.
Or you are someone that earns, I dunno, £100-200k a year, and your job requires close social interaction or travel, yet you have beloved family members who are very vulnerable, who you haven't seen in a year.
In fact, take that salary down to £70k a year (quite a few people). It's just £1000 for a jab. It allows you to hug your mother/sister/lover. A lot of people would pay it, I reckon. It is less than the price of a holiday and this means much much more than a holiday. But we shall see.
Surely you'd want your vulnerable family members to have it first? Fortunately, HMG has seen fit to prioritise them.
Indeed. Sean is assuming that having the vaccine yourself means you can’t pass it on. Whereas the most that has been said is that vaccination *may* reduce the chances of transmission.
That's not true: there is plenty of evidence it reduces transmission, we just don't know how much.
I unequivocally condemn the violence we saw last week...so please forget that my initial reaction was to call them beautiful and referred to them together with me as 'we'.
Is that enough please, Mitch?
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'Whether on left or right, democrat or republican' no excuse for violence.
It's almost worse he is saying the 'right' things now, as it shows he is capable of it and has willfully chosen not to do so this whole 4 years. It's not all about him, it's measured, and calm.
It's the kind of tone that might persuade a number of Senators that he has learned a lesson and going after him would be vindictive.
But remember his last 'peaceful' statement and how he then went right back to form on twitter?
He must be VERY worried to make this kind of statement.
The issue is how long does having been infected give you immunity.
The research says that infection-conferred immunity is as good or better than that from vaccination, in terms of longevity. That is big news for the key reason that if you have had Covid, you surely need not be vaccinated? Helps the vaccination programme I would think?
There is a body of opinion that mucosal immunity in the respiratory tract is better in survivors, compared to vaccines given by intramuscular injection.
I know Gouda can be bland, but this cheese, once aged, tastes AMAZING, super savoury and delicious. It is made in Inverness but aged by Mellis's. You can also buy a round and age it yourself even more if you fancy.
What I would say is that at this time of the year asparagus normally comes from Peru or Kenya, baby corn from India or Thailand, pineapples from Costa Rica, etc. When I think on this most of this stuff comes with a lot of airmiles and does not come from the EU.
Was there less salad? I don't think so but I couldn't really say. What foodstuffs from the EU are we likely to need?
Sorry to be an insufferable food snob, but nobody should be buying Peruvian asparagus. Wait for the short English season in May and eat your fill until your pee is bilious green. Then wait until next year. The Peruvian stuff is really tough in comparison!
I really like English asparagus but I am not willing to do without it 48 weeks a year. If you microwave it it gets soft enough. I also like it with soy sauce and parmesan. Hey, I have finally thought of an EU food that we import.
Roast or grill it, adorned with Camargue fleur de sel and scattered chili flakes?
Camargue fleur de sel, that would be salt for us lesser mortals, yes?
It is the biz. In terms of salt. A "finishing salt"
I'd love to see you attempt to pick it out in a blind salt test
Still, if it makes you feel better knowing that's what you've used, keep on using it!
I don't believe I could single it out by taste from, say, Maldon sea salt (which is excellent), but I reckon I could discern it by crunch, because it has extremely large, satisfying flakes. That is why it used in finishing a dish. It adds salty texture and bite as well as saltiness itself
One condiment I am utterly addicted to, which I could definitely detect, is Kampot peppercorns. They are the ne plus ultra of peppercorns. They rock. Instantly recognisable
US House Republicans who just voted to impeach Donald Trump:
> David Valadao of California CD21 (San Joaquin Valley) > Adam Kinzinger of Illinois CD10 (Rockford) > Peter Meijer of Michigan CD03 (Grand Rapids; Gerald Ford's old congressional district) > Fred Upton of Michigan CD06 (Kalamazoo) > John Katko of New York CD24 (Syracuse) > Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio CD16 (Canton; former NFL player representing site of US Football Hall of Fame) > Tom Rice of South Carolina CD07 (Myrtle Beach) > Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington CD03 (Vancouver) > Dan Newhouse of Washington CD04 (Yakima) > Liz Cheney of Wyoming At-large
Proud that two are from Washington State. Including one whom I've helped campaign against in the not-so-distant past.
I note that 7/10 of those US House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump represent districts in states that voted for Biden.
No surprise that the Democratic controlled House has voted to impeach the President but more Republicans will need to vote for him to be convicted in the Senate than that
True enough - IF you look at STATE results.
As for the actual congressional DISTRICTS represented by these ten, IIRC only three or thereabout where from districts that voted for Biden. And some, most notably Rice and Cheney are in VERY pro-Trumpsky turf.
Pre-Putsch anyway.
Of the list, keep your eye on Jaime Herrera Beutler.
> She's in her mid 40s, an evangelical Christian with a special-needs child > Is a Latina, does NOT make a big deal about it BUT gives her similar position to Nicky Haley & Tim Scott > grew up in the district, was active Young Republican who worked for Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Republican congresswoman from Spokane who is top woman in GOP ladership (and only member of WA delegation to vote nay today). > JHB was recruited to run for state representative in mid '00s to replace a Republican, a conservative Christian fireman forced to resign abruptly when he was caught in a homosexual sex scandal; she was also religious conservative, young AND a woman. > When re-drawn WA 3rd congressional was extensively redrawn by redistricting for 2012 open-seat race (it became more Republican) JHB quickly emerged as top GOP candidate; won her first election and has been reelected ever since. > Got her biggest challenge in 2018 when she did less well than expected versus a hitherto unknown Democratic woman; but this gave her fair warning that she needed to up her campaign for 2020, which she did, winning by a greater margin than two years previously > As of November 2020, she appeared to be just about the ONLY Republican in WA State with a half-way decent chance of maybe getting elected either US Senator or Governor in the not-too-distant future.
Note that the only other Republican to win statewide last year was another woman, Kim Wyman, who was re-elected Secretary of State. BUT KW has shown zero interest in trying to advance any further, despite her demostrated cross-over appearl for many Democrats. For one thing, Kim is an election professional, and elections are her professional AND political focus. Second, she realizes that much of her Democratic support would vanish IF she ran for Gov or Senator.
Further note that we DO like electing women out here. We've had two woman governors and number of woman statewide elected officials (including two besides Kim Wyman today). Both of our US Senators are women, as is the Speaker of the state house and Chief Justice of the state supreme court. And including JHB, five out of ten US House members.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I think that situation only arises if they start vaccinating 24 hours with the night time vaccinations being available to anyone for payment.
Why? Pfizer and Moderna (at least) are absolutely private companies seeking a profit. Imagine a large private health company says "We have tens of thousands of wealthy clients around the world, mainly in LA, NYC, London, and Paris, all willing to pay $1000 per jab. We are therefore willing to pay $500 a jab rather than $30 a jab. Please give us 50,000"
Will Pfizer really ignore this easy and massive profit? I doubt it.
According to reports, the reason Israel is doing so well is because their government privately paid LOADS of money per Pfizer jab, very early on.
Money talks. And saves lives.
I doubt it was the money that made Israel first - agreeing to provide side effect and other data back from the largest sample is what will have made Israel priority 1.
Bless, You think an unexpected early deal between - cough - Israel- - and - cough - Pfizer - was made on the basis of the sharing of medical data?
Israel. And. Pfizer.
Hm.
Or the deal was made because Israel agreed to pay BILLIONS over the odds to secure the global life-raft of the Jewish people? Colour me cynical, but I suspect a large amount of money played a significant role
You are Jeremy Corbyn and I claim my £5.
Hardly. If Israel was prepared to pay oodles of wonga to save the Jewish state, first, then fair enough. I am not complaining, or accusing.
This whole process will be run, in terms of priority, by who has the cash, power and intellectual property. I'm not aware of an EU programme to divert some of their precious and expensive Pfizer jabs to Africa, for instance, so as to immunise the infinitely poorer, vulnerable people south of Sicily.
Likewise, I don't see many Democrats in DC saying America must hand over its vaccines to the poorer people of Mexico or Brazil who have an even worse problem.
Funnily enough, there IS an EU scheme to immunise the people south of Sicily
Can I personally be the first to say fuck that shit.
It is bullshit reporting from The Sun.
Prof Van-Tam said during an exclusive interview with The Sun: "The pandemic has changed a lot of things. It has changed the way you and I approach hand hygiene.
"We all carry hand sanitiser around now, we all expect in most of the places we go into that hand sanitiser is provided at the door.
“I think there are going to be people who make a personal decision to say, you know what, when I’m in a crowded place in the winter I’m going to put a face covering on. When I’m on a tube I am going to put a face covering on."
However, Prof Van-Tam added that this doesn't mean this will be enforced, but rather that the mentality towards the virus has changed things.
He said: "I really don’t think the government has any intention that we should all walk around forever and a day distinguishing each other only by peering through a face covering.
“But I think individuals at different levels will choose to keep some of the infection precautionary behaviour that we have had to adopt as a matter of absolute necessity during Covid.”
He continued: "I don’t think we are ever going to take this virus away out of humankind. I think the virus is going to continue to change over time, as the disease has already shown signs of doing.
I unequivocally condemn the violence we saw last week...so please forget that my initial reaction was to call them beautiful and referred to them together with me as 'we'.
Is that enough please, Mitch?
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'Whether on left or right, democrat or republican' no excuse for violence.
It's almost worse he is saying the 'right' things now, as it shows he is capable of it and has willfully chosen not to do so this whole 4 years. It's not all about him, it's measured, and calm.
It's the kind of tone that might persuade a number of Senators that he has learned a lesson and going after him would be vindictive.
But remember his last 'peaceful' statement and how he then went right back to form on twitter?
He must be VERY worried to make this kind of statement.
If he had said that the night of, or the morning after, things would have been pretty different.
Can I personally be the first to say fuck that shit.
It is bullshit reporting from The Sun.
However, Prof Van-Tam added that this doesn't mean this will be enforced, but rather that the mentality towards the virus has changed things.
He said: "I really don’t think the government has any intention that we should all walk around forever and a day distinguishing each other only by peering through a face covering.
“But I think individuals at different levels will choose to keep some of the infection precautionary behaviour that we have had to adopt as a matter of absolute necessity during Covid.”
He continued: "I don’t think we are ever going to take this virus away out of humankind. I think the virus is going to continue to change over time, as the disease has already shown signs of doing.
Basically come flu season in future years people will probably wear masks out of choice, or wear them on the Underground, that kind of thing.
Can I personally be the first to say fuck that shit.
It is bullshit reporting from The Sun.
Prof Van-Tam said during an exclusive interview with The Sun: "The pandemic has changed a lot of things. It has changed the way you and I approach hand hygiene.
"We all carry hand sanitiser around now, we all expect in most of the places we go into that hand sanitiser is provided at the door.
“I think there are going to be people who make a personal decision to say, you know what, when I’m in a crowded place in the winter I’m going to put a face covering on. When I’m on a tube I am going to put a face covering on."
However, Prof Van-Tam added that this doesn't mean this will be enforced, but rather that the mentality towards the virus has changed things.
He said: "I really don’t think the government has any intention that we should all walk around forever and a day distinguishing each other only by peering through a face covering.
“But I think individuals at different levels will choose to keep some of the infection precautionary behaviour that we have had to adopt as a matter of absolute necessity during Covid.”
He continued: "I don’t think we are ever going to take this virus away out of humankind. I think the virus is going to continue to change over time, as the disease has already shown signs of doing.
I am not a big bettor (I do have a Betfair account and I place extremely occasional bets), but this sort of thing is, I think, what PB should be about, Trumpgasm aside.
If you are a say at 40 year old, that makes several million a year and your job requires you to fly around the world, I can see those kind of people easily splashing out £10k+ for get their jab. Because otherwise they will more than likely be waiting until late summer / autumn. That's a long time for somebody who makes that kind of money.
Or you are someone that earns, I dunno, £100-200k a year, and your job requires close social interaction or travel, yet you have beloved family members who are very vulnerable, who you haven't seen in a year.
In fact, take that salary down to £70k a year (quite a few people). It's just £1000 for a jab. It allows you to hug your mother/sister/lover. A lot of people would pay it, I reckon. It is less than the price of a holiday and this means much much more than a holiday. But we shall see.
Surely you'd want your vulnerable family members to have it first? Fortunately, HMG has seen fit to prioritise them.
Indeed. Sean is assuming that having the vaccine yourself means you can’t pass it on. Whereas the most that has been said is that vaccination *may* reduce the chances of transmission.
That's not true: there is plenty of evidence it reduces transmission, we just don't know how much.
Could you point out to everyone that I am not this "Sean" character., It irks. Thanks
History is going to judge the GOP very harshly indeed I think, there must also be a body of centre-right voters they've lost for a generation with their cowardice. The MAGAs are the base, but enough only head out for Trump to make it advantage Democrats in the next set of midterms. My prior is that the Democrats go into 2022 with the upper hand contrary to most midterms.
I know Gouda can be bland, but this cheese, once aged, tastes AMAZING, super savoury and delicious. It is made in Inverness but aged by Mellis's. You can also buy a round and age it yourself even more if you fancy.
For cheapskates (me), Lidl do a nice vintage Gouda and yes, it would be a decent substitute for Parmesan.
I know Gouda can be bland, but this cheese, once aged, tastes AMAZING, super savoury and delicious. It is made in Inverness but aged by Mellis's. You can also buy a round and age it yourself even more if you fancy.
My cheddar to parmesan conversion trick is one I learned in Malawi, where shopping opportunities are rather restricted! I also learned how to make my own biltong there.
Fortunately Malawi gin and Kuche Kuche beer rarely were in short supply.
I unequivocally condemn the violence we saw last week...so please forget that my initial reaction was to call them beautiful and referred to them together with me as 'we'.
Is that enough please, Mitch?
--------------
'Whether on left or right, democrat or republican' no excuse for violence.
It's almost worse he is saying the 'right' things now, as it shows he is capable of it and has willfully chosen not to do so this whole 4 years. It's not all about him, it's measured, and calm.
It's the kind of tone that might persuade a number of Senators that he has learned a lesson and going after him would be vindictive.
But remember his last 'peaceful' statement and how he then went right back to form on twitter?
He must be VERY worried to make this kind of statement.
Twitter are giving him a big help by banning him; protecting him from himself.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
And her brains too.
How would you know it was kosher?
Harley Street clinics are already asking people to sign up if they are interested in a private jab
"Work and pensions secretary Thérèse Coffey has admitted that the Government would not be able to stop private vaccine purchases. One website, the Harley Street Clinic Guide, which claims to connect people with the best doctors on London’s famous Harley Street, is already allowing people to pre-register their interest in getting a private jab. "
These clinics would not to utterly Chartwell, sorry, ruin their brand by dishing out the dodgy Chinese vax. It will be kosher
Moderna are a known seller to the private sector from Feb/March. I know lots of my friends around the city have got their employers making inquiries about having someone from a clinic come to offices with a few hundred doses per day. My workplace is looking into it as well for around April so we can get the office reopened.
My doctor in LA has said that she expects to have private vaccinations available "from February". If it's inexpensive enough, we will do it.
I unequivocally condemn the violence we saw last week...so please forget that my initial reaction was to call them beautiful and referred to them together with me as 'we'.
Is that enough please, Mitch?
--------------
'Whether on left or right, democrat or republican' no excuse for violence.
It's almost worse he is saying the 'right' things now, as it shows he is capable of it and has willfully chosen not to do so this whole 4 years. It's not all about him, it's measured, and calm.
It's the kind of tone that might persuade a number of Senators that he has learned a lesson and going after him would be vindictive.
But remember his last 'peaceful' statement and how he then went right back to form on twitter?
He must be VERY worried to make this kind of statement.
If he had said that the night of, or the morning after, things would have been pretty different.
It really would have. Obviously I destest Trump, and would likely still have been mad about his inciting behaviour, but if he had said something like this, in the way he has said it, at the time, it's hard to see anywhere near as even the few Republicans who have spoken out thus far have, acting as they have.
It might yet convince some of the Senators, but saying the right things now, in the right way, only emphasises what his first reactions were, and thus makes it seem insincere. Yes, people would have suspected it anyway, but now they can contrast his words and statements from the moment with now and much more reasonably disregard his later statements.
I unequivocally condemn the violence we saw last week...so please forget that my initial reaction was to call them beautiful and referred to them together with me as 'we'.
Is that enough please, Mitch?
--------------
'Whether on left or right, democrat or republican' no excuse for violence.
It's almost worse he is saying the 'right' things now, as it shows he is capable of it and has willfully chosen not to do so this whole 4 years. It's not all about him, it's measured, and calm.
It's the kind of tone that might persuade a number of Senators that he has learned a lesson and going after him would be vindictive.
But remember his last 'peaceful' statement and how he then went right back to form on twitter?
He must be VERY worried to make this kind of statement.
Twitter are giving him a big help by banning him; protecting him from himself.
Unintentionally, yes. Although if he is sincere in his remarks, it would kind of prove just how bad twitter can be through giving people an immediate outler for their thoughts - take it away from someone, and they transform!
But regardless, he cannot now respond in his angry, chaotic, self obsessed way, he actually has to plan out what is going to be said.
Given how difficult it could be to get 17 Republicans to vote against him in the Senate, only he can probably manage it by mouthing off from now until the vote, whenever that is. So things might be looking up for him!
If you are a say at 40 year old, that makes several million a year and your job requires you to fly around the world, I can see those kind of people easily splashing out £10k+ for get their jab. Because otherwise they will more than likely be waiting until late summer / autumn. That's a long time for somebody who makes that kind of money.
Or you are someone that earns, I dunno, £100-200k a year, and your job requires close social interaction or travel, yet you have beloved family members who are very vulnerable, who you haven't seen in a year.
In fact, take that salary down to £70k a year (quite a few people). It's just £1000 for a jab. It allows you to hug your mother/sister/lover. A lot of people would pay it, I reckon. It is less than the price of a holiday and this means much much more than a holiday. But we shall see.
Surely you'd want your vulnerable family members to have it first? Fortunately, HMG has seen fit to prioritise them.
Indeed. Sean is assuming that having the vaccine yourself means you can’t pass it on. Whereas the most that has been said is that vaccination *may* reduce the chances of transmission.
That's not true: there is plenty of evidence it reduces transmission, we just don't know how much.
Could you point out to everyone that I am not this "Sean" character., It irks. Thanks
I can’t believe I’m recommending this but the Sir Patrick Vallance interview on Peston, apart from the bits that include Peston, is really good. Quite optimistic I thought on several areas:
- no evidence that variants are any more dangerous - infection confers good immunity - leading indicators flattening / coming down.
And one mind blowing stat:
You only need to vaccinate 20 people in care homes to save one life.
You need to vaccinate 50,000 under 50s to save one life.
I can’t believe I’m recommending this but the Sir Patrick Vallance interview on Peston, apart from the bits that include Peston, is really good. Quite optimistic I thought on several areas:
- no evidence that variants are any more dangerous - infection confers good immunity - leading indicators flattening / coming down.
And one mind blowing stat:
You only need to vaccinate 20 people in care homes to save one life.
You need to vaccinate 50,000 under 50s to save one life.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I think that situation only arises if they start vaccinating 24 hours with the night time vaccinations being available to anyone for payment.
Why? Pfizer and Moderna (at least) are absolutely private companies seeking a profit. Imagine a large private health company says "We have tens of thousands of wealthy clients around the world, mainly in LA, NYC, London, and Paris, all willing to pay $1000 per jab. We are therefore willing to pay $500 a jab rather than $30 a jab. Please give us 50,000"
Will Pfizer really ignore this easy and massive profit? I doubt it.
According to reports, the reason Israel is doing so well is because their government privately paid LOADS of money per Pfizer jab, very early on.
Money talks. And saves lives.
I doubt it was the money that made Israel first - agreeing to provide side effect and other data back from the largest sample is what will have made Israel priority 1.
Bless, You think an unexpected early deal between - cough - Israel- - and - cough - Pfizer - was made on the basis of the sharing of medical data?
Israel. And. Pfizer.
Hm.
Or the deal was made because Israel agreed to pay BILLIONS over the odds to secure the global life-raft of the Jewish people? Colour me cynical, but I suspect a large amount of money played a significant role
Erm, more than a few tropes in that post. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
I do not believe it is an anti-Semitic trope to say that the Israeli government is singularly and literally determined on the preservation of the Jewish people. That is why it exists. The Holocaust showed that Jews were not safe in "civilised Europe". Hence, Israel. Therefore, the Jewish state will pay way over the odds to secure a vaccine that saves Jews, early on, from a potentially calamitous virus.
If they have the money to vaccinate Israelis first, they will pay it. I see Bahrain is doing the same, without any public fuss.
At the same time, Pfizer and Moderna are capitalist companies legally obligated to seek a profit, by their shareholders.
There is no trope here. This is the way of the world. Perhaps it should not be so, but that is not my argument.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
And her brains too.
How would you know it was kosher?
Harley Street clinics are already asking people to sign up if they are interested in a private jab
"Work and pensions secretary Thérèse Coffey has admitted that the Government would not be able to stop private vaccine purchases. One website, the Harley Street Clinic Guide, which claims to connect people with the best doctors on London’s famous Harley Street, is already allowing people to pre-register their interest in getting a private jab. "
These clinics would not to utterly Chartwell, sorry, ruin their brand by dishing out the dodgy Chinese vax. It will be kosher
Moderna are a known seller to the private sector from Feb/March. I know lots of my friends around the city have got their employers making inquiries about having someone from a clinic come to offices with a few hundred doses per day. My workplace is looking into it as well for around April so we can get the office reopened.
My doctor in LA has said that she expects to have private vaccinations available "from February". If it's inexpensive enough, we will do it.
Also Moderna. Our HoP thinks she's secured enough doses for March/April delivery for everyone in our office.
Moderna is definitely going to become the first world private sector vaccine, they've pitched themselves that way too, there's a lot of money in it for them, especially given that at their price range they can't compete with AZ for the developing world.
Can I personally be the first to say fuck that shit.
It is bullshit reporting from The Sun.
Prof Van-Tam said during an exclusive interview with The Sun: "The pandemic has changed a lot of things. It has changed the way you and I approach hand hygiene.
"We all carry hand sanitiser around now, we all expect in most of the places we go into that hand sanitiser is provided at the door.
“I think there are going to be people who make a personal decision to say, you know what, when I’m in a crowded place in the winter I’m going to put a face covering on. When I’m on a tube I am going to put a face covering on."
However, Prof Van-Tam added that this doesn't mean this will be enforced, but rather that the mentality towards the virus has changed things.
He said: "I really don’t think the government has any intention that we should all walk around forever and a day distinguishing each other only by peering through a face covering.
“But I think individuals at different levels will choose to keep some of the infection precautionary behaviour that we have had to adopt as a matter of absolute necessity during Covid.”
He continued: "I don’t think we are ever going to take this virus away out of humankind. I think the virus is going to continue to change over time, as the disease has already shown signs of doing.
Ah, thanks for providing the expanded text
I suspect plenty of us (well me anyway) will always carry hand sanitiser and a mask upon my person on most occasions post vaccinations.
Nor am I likely to choose to stand too close to people.
Our HR department is working on a new set of rules, post vaccination, which says if people have flu like symptoms during flu season then they should work from home/get tested/something along those lines.
GP surgeries as far apart as Carnforth, north Lancashire, and Twickenham in south-west London reporting in the past few days that they cannot plan appointments more than a week ahead because they do not know what the NHS can supply them. “This is where pressure needs to be exerted on the politicians,” said David Wrigley, a GP in Carnforth and a vice-chair of the British Medical Association.
I am not sure how that is going to speed up the bottling of 14 million doses? You scream as much as your like at Boris and Hancock, that isn't going to ramp up the speed of the production line in North Wales. Both has been very forthcoming that supply is the limiting factor.
Plenty of people believe that shouting "do something" will help.
When a traffic jam develops, the people who think that honking their horns will make it all go away. Those people.
I presume they feel vindicated when the delivery driver finishes unloading the skip (or whatever) and traffic resumes it's normal flow.
"I did that", they think.
A vivid image indeed. There are unfortunately several horn honkers on PB - it's the aspect of comments that I find the most tedious.
--AS
There is nothing that a suitable employee can't fix. I wonder if this guy does requests -
Bloody hell, that's a WW2 anti-tank rifle. 14.5mm calibre. Could go through a tank very easily in the early-ish war years - in fact that was the original reason some German tanks had hang-on plates on the sides, to perturb the bullet before it got to the actual armour. How can he cope with the recoil?!
Under powered ammo would be my guess. Although due to their weight At rifles often had suprisingly modest recoil give the bullet they were firing.
I'd pay a hundred quid for either of the Pfizer or Moderna jab, no more. I'm pretty tight and in good health. I suspect I'll get Oxford around September time.
But, you have a price. That is the point.
My guess is we all do. Apart from the rare and saintly types. And there aren't many of them over 40 years old. Not with this virus
Can I personally be the first to say fuck that shit.
It is bullshit reporting from The Sun.
Prof Van-Tam said during an exclusive interview with The Sun: "The pandemic has changed a lot of things. It has changed the way you and I approach hand hygiene.
"We all carry hand sanitiser around now, we all expect in most of the places we go into that hand sanitiser is provided at the door.
“I think there are going to be people who make a personal decision to say, you know what, when I’m in a crowded place in the winter I’m going to put a face covering on. When I’m on a tube I am going to put a face covering on."
However, Prof Van-Tam added that this doesn't mean this will be enforced, but rather that the mentality towards the virus has changed things.
He said: "I really don’t think the government has any intention that we should all walk around forever and a day distinguishing each other only by peering through a face covering.
“But I think individuals at different levels will choose to keep some of the infection precautionary behaviour that we have had to adopt as a matter of absolute necessity during Covid.”
He continued: "I don’t think we are ever going to take this virus away out of humankind. I think the virus is going to continue to change over time, as the disease has already shown signs of doing.
Was it the Sun that was trying to induce prolapses in the usual suspects by stating Merkel was ‘blaming’ Germany’s lockdown on the British virus? Lovely people.
Can I personally be the first to say fuck that shit.
It is bullshit reporting from The Sun.
Prof Van-Tam said during an exclusive interview with The Sun: "The pandemic has changed a lot of things. It has changed the way you and I approach hand hygiene.
"We all carry hand sanitiser around now, we all expect in most of the places we go into that hand sanitiser is provided at the door.
“I think there are going to be people who make a personal decision to say, you know what, when I’m in a crowded place in the winter I’m going to put a face covering on. When I’m on a tube I am going to put a face covering on."
However, Prof Van-Tam added that this doesn't mean this will be enforced, but rather that the mentality towards the virus has changed things.
He said: "I really don’t think the government has any intention that we should all walk around forever and a day distinguishing each other only by peering through a face covering.
“But I think individuals at different levels will choose to keep some of the infection precautionary behaviour that we have had to adopt as a matter of absolute necessity during Covid.”
He continued: "I don’t think we are ever going to take this virus away out of humankind. I think the virus is going to continue to change over time, as the disease has already shown signs of doing.
Ah, thanks for providing the expanded text
I suspect plenty of us (well me anyway) will always carry hand sanitiser and a mask upon my person on most occasions post vaccinations.
Nor am I likely to choose to stand too close to people.
Our HR department is working on a new set of rules, post vaccination, which says if people have flu like symptoms during flu season then they should work from home/get tested/something along those lines.
I think we will see changes in procedures / behaviour...I mean who thought it was a good idea to have people sit in a GP waiting room with 20-30 other people if you have what you think is flu?
I am not a big bettor (I do have a Betfair account and I place extremely occasional bets), but this sort of thing is, I think, what PB should be about, Trumpgasm aside.
Feels like that story has been going on for an eternity, without the near daily twists of the Trump era to keep it interesting, but it does spark into life every now and then. I have no idea who might be in line in the event Nicola was ousted. Like, who is her deputy, are they a powerhouse in their own right? No idea.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I think that situation only arises if they start vaccinating 24 hours with the night time vaccinations being available to anyone for payment.
Why? Pfizer and Moderna (at least) are absolutely private companies seeking a profit. Imagine a large private health company says "We have tens of thousands of wealthy clients around the world, mainly in LA, NYC, London, and Paris, all willing to pay $1000 per jab. We are therefore willing to pay $500 a jab rather than $30 a jab. Please give us 50,000"
Will Pfizer really ignore this easy and massive profit? I doubt it.
According to reports, the reason Israel is doing so well is because their government privately paid LOADS of money per Pfizer jab, very early on.
Money talks. And saves lives.
I doubt it was the money that made Israel first - agreeing to provide side effect and other data back from the largest sample is what will have made Israel priority 1.
Bless, You think an unexpected early deal between - cough - Israel- - and - cough - Pfizer - was made on the basis of the sharing of medical data?
Israel. And. Pfizer.
Hm.
Or the deal was made because Israel agreed to pay BILLIONS over the odds to secure the global life-raft of the Jewish people? Colour me cynical, but I suspect a large amount of money played a significant role
Erm, more than a few tropes in that post. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
I do not believe it is an anti-Semitic trope to say that the Israeli government is singularly and literally determined on the preservation of the Jewish people. That is why it exists. The Holocaust showed that Jews were not safe in "civilised Europe". Hence, Israel. Therefore, the Jewish state will pay way over the odds to secure a vaccine that saves Jews, early on, from a potentially calamitous virus.
If they have the money to vaccinate Israelis first, they will pay it. I see Bahrain is doing the same, without any public fuss.
At the same time, Pfizer and Moderna are capitalist companies legally obligated to seek a profit, by their shareholders.
There is no trope here. This is the way of the world. Perhaps it should not be so, but that is not my argument.
If the fact that Israel is a Jewish state is neither here nor there, why even go on about it? Why would you be saying Israel cough cough Pfizer? Do you know that the CEO of Pfizer is Jewish? I can't think what else the cough cough would be referencing other than something pretty tawdry.
Why is the media obsessed with the idea of people getting vaccinated in the middle of the night?
If you have got the staff and the vaccine to cover a night shift, just open another centre during the day. Same number of jabs, more sleep.
On that note, time for bed...
The government are probably only two weeks from inventing a 25th hour of the day to expand round the clock vaccination.
Labour will instantly claim this still isn't enough and a 26th hour is required. Sturgeon will go by 27 hours and Drakeford will decide to change days to last 1.5hrs.
GP surgeries as far apart as Carnforth, north Lancashire, and Twickenham in south-west London reporting in the past few days that they cannot plan appointments more than a week ahead because they do not know what the NHS can supply them. “This is where pressure needs to be exerted on the politicians,” said David Wrigley, a GP in Carnforth and a vice-chair of the British Medical Association.
I am not sure how that is going to speed up the bottling of 14 million doses? You scream as much as your like at Boris and Hancock, that isn't going to ramp up the speed of the production line in North Wales. Both has been very forthcoming that supply is the limiting factor.
Plenty of people believe that shouting "do something" will help.
When a traffic jam develops, the people who think that honking their horns will make it all go away. Those people.
I presume they feel vindicated when the delivery driver finishes unloading the skip (or whatever) and traffic resumes it's normal flow.
"I did that", they think.
A vivid image indeed. There are unfortunately several horn honkers on PB - it's the aspect of comments that I find the most tedious.
--AS
There is nothing that a suitable employee can't fix. I wonder if this guy does requests -
Bloody hell, that's a WW2 anti-tank rifle. 14.5mm calibre. Could go through a tank very easily in the early-ish war years - in fact that was the original reason some German tanks had hang-on plates on the sides, to perturb the bullet before it got to the actual armour. How can he cope with the recoil?!
Under powered ammo would be my guess. Although due to their weight At rifles often had suprisingly modest recoil give the bullet they were firing.
Can I personally be the first to say fuck that shit.
It is bullshit reporting from The Sun.
Prof Van-Tam said during an exclusive interview with The Sun: "The pandemic has changed a lot of things. It has changed the way you and I approach hand hygiene.
"We all carry hand sanitiser around now, we all expect in most of the places we go into that hand sanitiser is provided at the door.
“I think there are going to be people who make a personal decision to say, you know what, when I’m in a crowded place in the winter I’m going to put a face covering on. When I’m on a tube I am going to put a face covering on."
However, Prof Van-Tam added that this doesn't mean this will be enforced, but rather that the mentality towards the virus has changed things.
He said: "I really don’t think the government has any intention that we should all walk around forever and a day distinguishing each other only by peering through a face covering.
“But I think individuals at different levels will choose to keep some of the infection precautionary behaviour that we have had to adopt as a matter of absolute necessity during Covid.”
He continued: "I don’t think we are ever going to take this virus away out of humankind. I think the virus is going to continue to change over time, as the disease has already shown signs of doing.
Ah, thanks for providing the expanded text
I suspect plenty of us (well me anyway) will always carry hand sanitiser and a mask upon my person on most occasions post vaccinations.
Nor am I likely to choose to stand too close to people.
Our HR department is working on a new set of rules, post vaccination, which says if people have flu like symptoms during flu season then they should work from home/get tested/something along those lines.
Your company must be backward if it’s only just designing guidelines now that people who are obviously ill shouldn’t come into the office.
History is going to judge the GOP very harshly indeed I think, there must also be a body of centre-right voters they've lost for a generation with their cowardice. The MAGAs are the base, but enough only head out for Trump to make it advantage Democrats in the next set of midterms. My prior is that the Democrats go into 2022 with the upper hand contrary to most midterms.
I wonder if there will be more protest votes for libertarian candidates.
Can I personally be the first to say fuck that shit.
It is bullshit reporting from The Sun.
Prof Van-Tam said during an exclusive interview with The Sun: "The pandemic has changed a lot of things. It has changed the way you and I approach hand hygiene.
"We all carry hand sanitiser around now, we all expect in most of the places we go into that hand sanitiser is provided at the door.
“I think there are going to be people who make a personal decision to say, you know what, when I’m in a crowded place in the winter I’m going to put a face covering on. When I’m on a tube I am going to put a face covering on."
However, Prof Van-Tam added that this doesn't mean this will be enforced, but rather that the mentality towards the virus has changed things.
He said: "I really don’t think the government has any intention that we should all walk around forever and a day distinguishing each other only by peering through a face covering.
“But I think individuals at different levels will choose to keep some of the infection precautionary behaviour that we have had to adopt as a matter of absolute necessity during Covid.”
He continued: "I don’t think we are ever going to take this virus away out of humankind. I think the virus is going to continue to change over time, as the disease has already shown signs of doing.
Was it the Sun that was trying to induce prolapses in the usual suspects by stating Merkel was ‘blaming’ Germany’s lockdown on the British virus? Lovely people.
No that was the Mail IIRC.
I suspect it was someone written by someone who doesn't speak German and saw a couple of English sounding words and wrote the article on that basis.
Feels like McConnell's people leaking yesterday about his potential willingness to convict had its desired effect - a coded message to the President to calm the f*ck down and give McConnell room to justify painting conviction as unnecessarily vindictive.
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Israel. And. Pfizer.
Hm.
Or the deal was made because Israel agreed to pay BILLIONS over the odds to secure the global life-raft of the Jewish people? Colour me cynical, but I suspect a large amount of money played a significant role
The issue is how long does having been infected give you immunity.
Pfizer
has delivered at least 5m doses
AstraZeneca
1m already released to the NHS
3m in vials awaiting batch approval by the MHRA
15m ready to be put in vials
TOTAL at least 24m – of which 3m doses have already been given out leaving 21m
For the first few years we weren't sure they were going to survive. But for the past five years we've had huge crops of asparagus from St. George's day to mid-summer day. We're eating it every other day in May. And it's absolutely divine.
We never touch asparagus any other time of the year because a) it never compares with our own and b) by July we are asparagused-out and need a break.
Food seasonality has its charms and should br respected.
Though I suspect if there were significant shortages in Northern Ireland then the supermarkets would have panic buying of everything they did have.
And I believe in the free market. So I guess that's my principles out of the window too.
I appreciate that antiquarian refers to the books, not the seller, but still...
Anyway your post is spot on.
Though I'm not sure how they can know until time passes.
And there's always the risk of different variants which you might not have as much immunity to.
This has made our food hugely more enjoyable. That connection to the seasons and the anticipation of the next seasonal food to appear really makes it a lot more interesting and fun. It has also made me try and learn the enjoyment of many more foods I previously couldn't be bothered with. There is simply no time of year now when I can't get a good supply of a large variety of different fruit and veg. There is just no need to buy imported stuff.
This whole process will be run, in terms of priority, by who has the cash, power and intellectual property. I'm not aware of an EU programme to divert some of their precious and expensive Pfizer jabs to Africa, for instance, so as to immunise the infinitely poorer, vulnerable people south of Sicily.
Likewise, I don't see many Democrats in DC saying America must hand over its vaccines to the poorer people of Mexico or Brazil who have an even worse problem.
Still, if it makes you feel better knowing that's what you've used, keep on using it!
https://twitter.com/ChrisMusson/status/1349489598678900738?s=20
They are playing catch up, via the UK variant
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1349492130578919425
They really did addicted to the 'Ulster says NO' mentality.
Is that enough please, Mitch?
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'Whether on left or right, democrat or republican' no excuse for violence.
It's almost worse he is saying the 'right' things now, as it shows he is capable of it and has willfully chosen not to do so this whole 4 years. It's not all about him, it's measured, and calm.
It's the kind of tone that might persuade a number of Senators that he has learned a lesson and going after him would be vindictive.
But remember his last 'peaceful' statement and how he then went right back to form on twitter?
He must be VERY worried to make this kind of statement.
I know Gouda can be bland, but this cheese, once aged, tastes AMAZING, super savoury and delicious. It is made in Inverness but aged by Mellis's. You can also buy a round and age it yourself even more if you fancy.
One condiment I am utterly addicted to, which I could definitely detect, is Kampot peppercorns. They are the ne plus ultra of peppercorns. They rock. Instantly recognisable
https://www.spicemountain.co.uk/product/kampot-peppercorns-black-cambodia/
As for the actual congressional DISTRICTS represented by these ten, IIRC only three or thereabout where from districts that voted for Biden. And some, most notably Rice and Cheney are in VERY pro-Trumpsky turf.
Pre-Putsch anyway.
Of the list, keep your eye on Jaime Herrera Beutler.
> She's in her mid 40s, an evangelical Christian with a special-needs child
> Is a Latina, does NOT make a big deal about it BUT gives her similar position to Nicky Haley & Tim Scott
> grew up in the district, was active Young Republican who worked for Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Republican congresswoman from Spokane who is top woman in GOP ladership (and only member of WA delegation to vote nay today).
> JHB was recruited to run for state representative in mid '00s to replace a Republican, a conservative Christian fireman forced to resign abruptly when he was caught in a homosexual sex scandal; she was also religious conservative, young AND a woman.
> When re-drawn WA 3rd congressional was extensively redrawn by redistricting for 2012 open-seat race (it became more Republican) JHB quickly emerged as top GOP candidate; won her first election and has been reelected ever since.
> Got her biggest challenge in 2018 when she did less well than expected versus a hitherto unknown Democratic woman; but this gave her fair warning that she needed to up her campaign for 2020, which she did, winning by a greater margin than two years previously
> As of November 2020, she appeared to be just about the ONLY Republican in WA State with a half-way decent chance of maybe getting elected either US Senator or Governor in the not-too-distant future.
Note that the only other Republican to win statewide last year was another woman, Kim Wyman, who was re-elected Secretary of State. BUT KW has shown zero interest in trying to advance any further, despite her demostrated cross-over appearl for many Democrats. For one thing, Kim is an election professional, and elections are her professional AND political focus. Second, she realizes that much of her Democratic support would vanish IF she ran for Gov or Senator.
Further note that we DO like electing women out here. We've had two woman governors and number of woman statewide elected officials (including two besides Kim Wyman today). Both of our US Senators are women, as is the Speaker of the state house and Chief Justice of the state supreme court. And including JHB, five out of ten US House members.
Prof Van-Tam said during an exclusive interview with The Sun: "The pandemic has changed a lot of things. It has changed the way you and I approach hand hygiene.
"We all carry hand sanitiser around now, we all expect in most of the places we go into that hand sanitiser is provided at the door.
“I think there are going to be people who make a personal decision to say, you know what, when I’m in a crowded place in the winter I’m going to put a face covering on. When I’m on a tube I am going to put a face covering on."
However, Prof Van-Tam added that this doesn't mean this will be enforced, but rather that the mentality towards the virus has changed things.
He said: "I really don’t think the government has any intention that we should all walk around forever and a day distinguishing each other only by peering through a face covering.
“But I think individuals at different levels will choose to keep some of the infection precautionary behaviour that we have had to adopt as a matter of absolute necessity during Covid.”
He continued: "I don’t think we are ever going to take this virus away out of humankind. I think the virus is going to continue to change over time, as the disease has already shown signs of doing.
"there is no evidence that general wearing of face masks affects the spread of the disease. We do not recommend general mask wearing"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-52153145
https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1349492130578919425?s=21
might have been interesting, before it happened.
I am not a big bettor (I do have a Betfair account and I place extremely occasional bets), but this sort of thing is, I think, what PB should be about, Trumpgasm aside.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
My prior is that the Democrats go into 2022 with the upper hand contrary to most midterms.
If you have got the staff and the vaccine to cover a night shift, just open another centre during the day. Same number of jabs, more sleep.
On that note, time for bed...
Fortunately Malawi gin and Kuche Kuche beer rarely were in short supply.
It might yet convince some of the Senators, but saying the right things now, in the right way, only emphasises what his first reactions were, and thus makes it seem insincere. Yes, people would have suspected it anyway, but now they can contrast his words and statements from the moment with now and much more reasonably disregard his later statements. Unintentionally, yes. Although if he is sincere in his remarks, it would kind of prove just how bad twitter can be through giving people an immediate outler for their thoughts - take it away from someone, and they transform!
But regardless, he cannot now respond in his angry, chaotic, self obsessed way, he actually has to plan out what is going to be said.
Given how difficult it could be to get 17 Republicans to vote against him in the Senate, only he can probably manage it by mouthing off from now until the vote, whenever that is. So things might be looking up for him!
- no evidence that variants are any more dangerous
- infection confers good immunity
- leading indicators flattening / coming down.
And one mind blowing stat:
You only need to vaccinate 20 people in care homes to save one life.
You need to vaccinate 50,000 under 50s to save one life.
Puts the risk profile in sharp relief.
If they have the money to vaccinate Israelis first, they will pay it. I see Bahrain is doing the same, without any public fuss.
At the same time, Pfizer and Moderna are capitalist companies legally obligated to seek a profit, by their shareholders.
There is no trope here. This is the way of the world. Perhaps it should not be so, but that is not my argument.
Moderna is definitely going to become the first world private sector vaccine, they've pitched themselves that way too, there's a lot of money in it for them, especially given that at their price range they can't compete with AZ for the developing world.
Nor am I likely to choose to stand too close to people.
Our HR department is working on a new set of rules, post vaccination, which says if people have flu like symptoms during flu season then they should work from home/get tested/something along those lines.
My guess is we all do. Apart from the rare and saintly types. And there aren't many of them over 40 years old. Not with this virus
Why would you be saying Israel cough cough Pfizer? Do you know that the CEO of Pfizer is Jewish? I can't think what else the cough cough would be referencing other than something pretty tawdry.
Are you an antisemite?
I suspect it was someone written by someone who doesn't speak German and saw a couple of English sounding words and wrote the article on that basis.