@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
Five not voting - one Democrat (believe this is Alcee Hastings, who has pancreatic cancer) and four Republicans, of which (I think) at least two are absent due to COVID.
So if my understanding of US constitutional matters is correct Donald J. Trump is now inserted inside a gigantic, magical peach, and has a wild and surreal cross-world adventure with seven magically-altered garden bugs he meets.
I hope they are far better then yesterday’s dismal return.
About 225k.
Thanks.
Much better! Let’s keep this rate of increase up.
Need to stabilise at 350k/day.
I have no real knowledge, but I doubt we will see that for a week or two, supply is still the limiting factor. Fingers crossed though, loads of vaccinations centres are opening and the government shifting on this silly idea that people only want to be vaccinated between 8am and 8pm. Hopefully when all the supply becomes available they can go real dambusters and be doing shots earlier and later in the day.
I still don't think they will make their mid Feb target, but realistically if they can do start of March say, I think that's a bloody good effort all round.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
The number of new variants rather worry me. This one originated in Amazonas, one of the places in the world most approaching herd immunity. The endemic nature of the virus must be leading to a lot of evolutionary pressure.
I am afraid that there are a lot of chapters left in the coronavirus story.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
Are you prattling on about Brexit again?
You voted for it.
STFU.
Prattling about Brexit? No, that was nearly a year ago. I'm prattling about the idiot decisions this government have taken. I didn't vote for them.
If STFU is your message I hope we hear nothing from you about the coming shortages.
Had hoped for, but not expected, around double that, but hey, double figures is something at least. So around 5% of the total? Only need to sextuple or so that percentrage in the Senate.
The 138 who voted against accepting Pennsylvania's electoral college votes were never going to vote for impeachment. So it's 10 of the remaining 73.
If 1-in-7 anti-Coup Republican Senators vote for conviction that would be 6. So they need to triple that proportion in the Senate.
So if my understanding of US constitutional matters is correct Donald J. Trump is now inserted inside a gigantic, magical peach, and has a wild and surreal cross-world adventure with seven magically-altered garden bugs he meets.
The number of new variants rather worry me. This one originated in Amazonas, one of the places in the world most approaching herd immunity. The endemic nature of the virus must be leading to a lot of evolutionary pressure.
I am afraid that there are a lot of chapters left in the coronavirus story.
One positive is we know mRNA tech works and that it can be altered fairly quickly. First thing is we have to try and keep as many of these variants from taking hold in the UK (CLOOOOOOOOOSEEE THE BORDERRRRRR), build the capacity and procedures for vaccinations and be prepared for the worst that one of these nasty buggers isn't covered by current formulation and we might have to go around again next year.
For less fortunate countries, it could be horrendous.
Had hoped for, but not expected, around double that, but hey, double figures is something at least. So around 5% of the total? Only need to sextuple or so that percentrage in the Senate.
The House is much more obediently pro-Trump than the Senate, so whilst 10 is not a disaster for him, it ain't good either.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
Yep -there will be change and it will mean that mid stage manufacturing won't be being sent to the UK before being sent back to Europe for finishing off.
The only bits of work being done in the UK will be either whole manufacturing processes or final bits of finishing off.
The number of new variants rather worry me. This one originated in Amazonas, one of the places in the world most approaching herd immunity. The endemic nature of the virus must be leading to a lot of evolutionary pressure.
I am afraid that there are a lot of chapters left in the coronavirus story.
I am thinking that SKS is modifying what he says to Johnson, in case it comes back to bite him when he is handling the 9th wave in 2024.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
Setting aside the impossibility of political changes to the treaties, the immovable object is that said Treaties do not work on a practical level. The "change" you mention will be supply chains largely shutting down. Not being able to import / export effectively will focus political minds - hard to eulogise about the amazing deal you did when it had brought trade to its knees.
"This isn't the Brexit we voted for" - thats the phrase you will be hearing a lot. People definitely didn't vote for shortages and price rises. Yet that is what they are getting.
So if my understanding of US constitutional matters is correct Donald J. Trump is now inserted inside a gigantic, magical peach, and has a wild and surreal cross-world adventure with seven magically-altered garden bugs he meets.
Am I right?
#nojusticenopeach
No, he gets genetically modified into a giant centipede.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
Are you prattling on about Brexit again?
You voted for it.
STFU.
Is that true? If not it is the most appalling libel
Had hoped for, but not expected, around double that, but hey, double figures is something at least. So around 5% of the total? Only need to sextuple or so that percentrage in the Senate.
The House is much more obediently pro-Trump than the Senate, so whilst 10 is not a disaster for him, it ain't good either.
As the CNN commentator said, in the House very many of them are boxed in having supported overturning the election, most of them even after the riot.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
Are you prattling on about Brexit again?
You voted for it.
STFU.
Is that true? If not it is the most appalling libel
Libel? Wowsers.
I voted to leave the EU. Leaving the EEA and CU to cripple ourselves wasn't what was billed.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
Setting aside the impossibility of political changes to the treaties, the immovable object is that said Treaties do not work on a practical level. The "change" you mention will be supply chains largely shutting down. Not being able to import / export effectively will focus political minds - hard to eulogise about the amazing deal you did when it had brought trade to its knees.
"This isn't the Brexit we voted for" - thats the phrase you will be hearing a lot. People definitely didn't vote for shortages and price rises. Yet that is what they are getting.
On the plus side, I'm quite partial to Welsh lamb and English scallops here - which I guess will be a lot cheaper if export is so difficult?
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
I can remember what greengrocers were like pre-1973 in the autumn to spring months. Not quite wall to wall turnips, kail, other brassicas, carrots and spuds, not far off it outside the twee urban specialists. That's a hell of a reversion, for a start.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
Are you prattling on about Brexit again?
You voted for it.
STFU.
Is that true? If not it is the most appalling libel
Libel? Wowsers.
I voted to leave the EU. Leaving the EEA and CU to cripple ourselves wasn't what was billed.
Did you just not believe those who said Leave meant leaving the SM and CU?
McConnell says trial will begin at first regular senate meeting after receiving the motion from the House. Pelosi not saying when she will send the motion over.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
Setting aside the impossibility of political changes to the treaties, the immovable object is that said Treaties do not work on a practical level. The "change" you mention will be supply chains largely shutting down. Not being able to import / export effectively will focus political minds - hard to eulogise about the amazing deal you did when it had brought trade to its knees.
"This isn't the Brexit we voted for" - thats the phrase you will be hearing a lot. People definitely didn't vote for shortages and price rises. Yet that is what they are getting.
On the plus side, I'm quite partial to Welsh lamb and English scallops here - which I guess will be a lot cheaper if export is so difficult?
Ask the meat industry what the problem is with your "I'm partial to Welsh Lamb" comment. Unless they can economically flog other cuts and older sheep to the French, there won't be any Welsh lamb.
The late Sheldon Adelson was a strong financial supporter of both.
I had to look him up. Trump to cut his taxes Netanyahu to supply a buriel plot?
It will be interesting to see whether Trump is mentioned in the will. If he is, his money problems may be over, investigations notwithstanding. However there were stories that the relationship had soured, partly due to Trump's dissatisfaction with the paltry sums Sheldon was handing over. For his part, Sheldon was not entirely happy with Trump's tolerance of anti-semitic types.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
Are you prattling on about Brexit again?
You voted for it.
STFU.
Is that true? If not it is the most appalling libel
Libel? Wowsers.
I voted to leave the EU. Leaving the EEA and CU to cripple ourselves wasn't what was billed.
Did you just not believe those who said Leave meant leaving the SM and CU?
There was a lot of people on the leave side who said we wouldn't...
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
Are you prattling on about Brexit again?
You voted for it.
STFU.
Is that true? If not it is the most appalling libel
Libel? Wowsers.
I voted to leave the EU. Leaving the EEA and CU to cripple ourselves wasn't what was billed.
All of the problems we are having so far were however widely predicted.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
Are you prattling on about Brexit again?
You voted for it.
STFU.
Is that true? If not it is the most appalling libel
Libel? Wowsers.
I voted to leave the EU. Leaving the EEA and CU to cripple ourselves wasn't what was billed.
Did you just not believe those who said Leave meant leaving the SM and CU?
The same people who said the exact opposite as well? I assume that lying politicians lie. I can provide you the quotes from Boris Johnson 2016 staing clearly that what Boris Johnson 2019 did would not happen.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
I can remember what greengrocers were like pre-1973 in the autumn to spring months. Not quite wall to wall turnips, kail, other brassicas, carrots and spuds, not far off it outside the twee urban specialists. That's a hell of a reversion, for a start.
What I still don't quite understand is how I can still buy everything at the shops I want when RP says that the system isn't fit for purpose. We're 13 days into the year, during a pandemic when everyone is eating at home. How come the delays aren't feeding through to problems yet?
Oh goody, thank you - I do like to read a nice story of the struggle against the Malignants.
It’s pretty scathing about the Covenanters as well. Basically makes the case the civil war a coup by excluded group of nobles who manipulated parliament and acted treasonably with the Scots
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
Setting aside the impossibility of political changes to the treaties, the immovable object is that said Treaties do not work on a practical level. The "change" you mention will be supply chains largely shutting down. Not being able to import / export effectively will focus political minds - hard to eulogise about the amazing deal you did when it had brought trade to its knees.
"This isn't the Brexit we voted for" - thats the phrase you will be hearing a lot. People definitely didn't vote for shortages and price rises. Yet that is what they are getting.
On the plus side, I'm quite partial to Welsh lamb and English scallops here - which I guess will be a lot cheaper if export is so difficult?
Ask the meat industry what the problem is with your "I'm partial to Welsh Lamb" comment. Unless they can economically flog other cuts and older sheep to the French, there won't be any Welsh lamb.
But what about scallops?
I could personally make a major contribution to remedying the situation.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
The number of new variants rather worry me. This one originated in Amazonas, one of the places in the world most approaching herd immunity. The endemic nature of the virus must be leading to a lot of evolutionary pressure.
I am afraid that there are a lot of chapters left in the coronavirus story.
I am thinking that SKS is modifying what he says to Johnson, in case it comes back to bite him when he is handling the 9th wave in 2024.
In Leicester our public health people are predicting that the worst week will be the week of 25th Jan, but that it will be a slow tail off.
I have gone rather bearish on my views on the economy as a result. The first vaccine resistant variant is going to come as quite a hammer blow.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
I can remember what greengrocers were like pre-1973 in the autumn to spring months. Not quite wall to wall turnips, kail, other brassicas, carrots and spuds, not far off it outside the twee urban specialists. That's a hell of a reversion, for a start.
What I still don't quite understand is how I can still buy everything at the shops I want when RP says that the system isn't fit for purpose. We're 13 days into the year, during a pandemic when everyone is eating at home. How come the delays aren't feeding through to problems yet?
Then you are lucky - it took me 3 attempts to find a bag of salad earlier this week.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I've found this happens relating to the virus.
The most liberal of my mates now want people fined for driving 5 miles to have a walk with a mate.
I am baffled. But most relieved to hear that vaccine passports/certificates have been ruled out by the govt. Another little bit of coronachondria which the PB consensus seems to have got wrong.
Oh goody, thank you - I do like to read a nice story of the struggle against the Malignants.
It’s pretty scathing about the Covenanters as well. Basically makes the case the civil war a coup by excluded group of nobles who manipulated parliament and acted treasonably with the Scots
Edit/deleted: sorry, ignore, muddling it mentally with another book that came up when I hunted. Anyway it's now on the reading list to at least investigate further.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
Depends which one....the new data on the Chinese one, I don't think I would bother with that.
£1000 for a working vaccine seems very low, given the current supply, the peace of mind it would provide and opportunity to live more normally. I spent more on exercise equipment during this pandemic.
Had hoped for, but not expected, around double that, but hey, double figures is something at least. So around 5% of the total? Only need to sextuple or so that percentrage in the Senate.
The House is much more obediently pro-Trump than the Senate, so whilst 10 is not a disaster for him, it ain't good either.
That's true. The gerrymandering means proportionately more safe seats in the House, so winning the primary is what counts, not necessarily reaching out state-wide.
Interesting - CNN commentator saying disqualification for future office isn’t an automatic consequence of impeachment and conviction, but has to be voted on separately (in the event of conviction).
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I doubt it's coming here in the UK. USA, probably.
I would not pay to queue jump - it's not the money, it's the principle.
I'd want to see second and possibly third opinions on this first but I'm not sure anything would surprise me from Xi's China anymore.
If true (a huge if) Sean's fantasy fictional novel about this is perhaps ever so slightly closer to the truth than we thought back in March:
"British diplomats are bracing for the United States to make grave allegations against China, linked to "dangerous" coronavirus research in Wuhan.
Donald Trump is thought to be intent on firing a final salvo against Beijing over the Covid crisis in one of his last acts before he departs the Oval Office next week.
UK sources believe Mike Pompeo, the US Secretary of State, could make a public intervention as soon as Wednesday involving the declassification of American intelligence on the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
The US may allege that the People's Liberation Army was running research projects that involved "cultivating dangerous coronaviruses" in a series of animal species at the laboratory, a UK source told The Telegraph.
Such claims would prompt a raft of further questions about why the Chinese military would be involved in this kind of project, including any links to the development of potential bioweapons.
Washington is expected to stop short of alleging that Covid-19 first originated from the biological laboratory, however."
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
I hope they are far better then yesterday’s dismal return.
About 225k.
Thanks.
Much better! Let’s keep this rate of increase up.
Need to stabilise at 350k/day.
Why? Fuck it. Jab a million a day if we can. This isn't like testing. We need the entire country immune, in case of a mutant, so we are ready to jab again
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I've found this happens relating to the virus.
The most liberal of my mates now want people fined for driving 5 miles to have a walk with a mate.
I am baffled. But most relieved to hear that vaccine passports/certificates have been ruled out by the govt. Another little bit of coronachondria which the PB consensus seems to have got wrong.
... assuming the govt is not cgoing to u-turn on that idea too.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I doubt it's coming here in the UK. USA, probably.
I would not pay to queue jump - it's not the money, it's the principle.
I fully expect to hear in due course you will be able to get it done in Turkey, so fairly easily available to Europeans. You will have to have the Russian or Chinese one though.
The number of new variants rather worry me. This one originated in Amazonas, one of the places in the world most approaching herd immunity. The endemic nature of the virus must be leading to a lot of evolutionary pressure.
I am afraid that there are a lot of chapters left in the coronavirus story.
I am thinking that SKS is modifying what he says to Johnson, in case it comes back to bite him when he is handling the 9th wave in 2024.
In Leicester our public health people are predicting that the worst week will be the week of 25th Jan, but that it will be a slow tail off.
I have gone rather bearish on my views on the economy as a result. The first vaccine resistant variant is going to come as quite a hammer blow.
I don't like swearing on this site but a 'vaccine resistant variant' will fuck everything up! 😠
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
I can remember what greengrocers were like pre-1973 in the autumn to spring months. Not quite wall to wall turnips, kail, other brassicas, carrots and spuds, not far off it outside the twee urban specialists. That's a hell of a reversion, for a start.
What I still don't quite understand is how I can still buy everything at the shops I want when RP says that the system isn't fit for purpose. We're 13 days into the year, during a pandemic when everyone is eating at home. How come the delays aren't feeding through to problems yet?
Because: 1. We've just had Christmas. Retailers stockpile the shit out of stuff hoping to sell it 2. We've just had a "never mind that shit here comes Mungo Brexit" event which led to so much stuff being force imported in December that the chaos at ports was widely reported 3. We're eating at home but the industry was stocked up for a Christmas that got cancelled at the last minute. Foodstuffs not eaten in hastily closed restaurants can be redirected.
There is a real and growing shortage of fresh food. It isn't universal yet because supply chain inefficiencies. But it is there. And everything else? We're burning through imported stockpiles.
But cross border traffic is just 20% of normal. We can't keep going for much longer before major gaps appear. Nor can the logistics industry keep going as it is - in Norniron they have said they fall over within a week
I hope they are far better then yesterday’s dismal return.
About 225k.
Thanks.
Much better! Let’s keep this rate of increase up.
Need to stabilise at 350k/day.
Yes, hopefully tomorrow will be even better. I think we'll get to ~300k by the end of this week and maybe 400k by the end of next week and almost all of them will be first jabs too.
The number of new variants rather worry me. This one originated in Amazonas, one of the places in the world most approaching herd immunity. The endemic nature of the virus must be leading to a lot of evolutionary pressure.
I am afraid that there are a lot of chapters left in the coronavirus story.
I am thinking that SKS is modifying what he says to Johnson, in case it comes back to bite him when he is handling the 9th wave in 2024.
In Leicester our public health people are predicting that the worst week will be the week of 25th Jan, but that it will be a slow tail off.
I have gone rather bearish on my views on the economy as a result. The first vaccine resistant variant is going to come as quite a hammer blow.
Very cheerful!
Are you bearish on equities too or just the economy?
I hope they are far better then yesterday’s dismal return.
About 225k.
Thanks.
Much better! Let’s keep this rate of increase up.
Need to stabilise at 350k/day.
Yes, hopefully tomorrow will be even better. I think we'll get to ~300k by the end of this week and maybe 400k by the end of next week and almost all of them will be first jabs too.
They do 300k / day easily if there is supply, that's the issue at the moment.
Interesting - CNN commentator saying disqualification for future office isn’t an automatic consequence of impeachment and conviction, but has to be voted on separately (in the event of conviction).
If convicted that does not seem like it would prove a problem.
Oh goody, thank you - I do like to read a nice story of the struggle against the Malignants.
It’s pretty scathing about the Covenanters as well. Basically makes the case the civil war a coup by excluded group of nobles who manipulated parliament and acted treasonably with the Scots
Edit/deleted: sorry, ignore, muddling it mentally with another book that came up when I hunted. Anyway it's now on the reading list to at least investigate further.
Sure - but it focuses almost entirely on the action in England (except when the Scots invade). Its already 900 pages...
The number of new variants rather worry me. This one originated in Amazonas, one of the places in the world most approaching herd immunity. The endemic nature of the virus must be leading to a lot of evolutionary pressure.
I am afraid that there are a lot of chapters left in the coronavirus story.
Yes. The next few years are going to be an attritional war between new mutations of the virus and new evolutions of the vaccine. Hopefully, Pharma Cos will be smart enough to keep us ahead of the bug, most of the time
But normal life - eg travelling wherever you like in the world, at the drop of a feathered hat -has gone for for the foreseeable future
Sell shares in adventure travel companies, buy shares in Big Pharma and biotech
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
I can remember what greengrocers were like pre-1973 in the autumn to spring months. Not quite wall to wall turnips, kail, other brassicas, carrots and spuds, not far off it outside the twee urban specialists. That's a hell of a reversion, for a start.
What I still don't quite understand is how I can still buy everything at the shops I want when RP says that the system isn't fit for purpose. We're 13 days into the year, during a pandemic when everyone is eating at home. How come the delays aren't feeding through to problems yet?
My wife has been unable to buy asparagus for love nor money
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
Depends which one....the new data on the Chinese one, I don't think I would bother with that.
£1000 for a working vaccine seems very low, given the current supply, the peace of mind it would provide and opportunity to live more normally. I spent more on exercise equipment during this pandemic.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I doubt it's coming here in the UK. USA, probably.
I would not pay to queue jump - it's not the money, it's the principle.
I fully expect to hear in due course you will be able to get it done in Turkey, so fairly easily available to Europeans. You will have to have the Russian or Chinese one though.
That would be dumb. You have the risk of travelling to get it and being infected on the way (or way back), the risk that you don’t know for sure what you will be getting, and most of us are due to be done in the next few months anyway.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I wouldn't, what am I going to do with it? Be more brazen on my daily walks for the next two months?
This only ends if the biggest and most transmissive vector groups in our population are all vaccinated en-mass as quickly as possible.
(PS. As for the "principle" stuff it doesn't surprise me - and this is why I have so little time (and respect) for the incessant virtue-signalling of the hard-Left on fashionable issues and causes. Most of them are insecure narcissists and hypocrites who just want public social proof to validate themselves and address their deep-rooted personal insecurities. They should start with just one: integrity.)
US House Republicans who just voted to impeach Donald Trump:
> David Valadao of California CD21 (San Joaquin Valley) > Adam Kinzinger of Illinois CD10 (Rockford) > Peter Meijer of Michigan CD03 (Grand Rapids; Gerald Ford's old congressional district) > Fred Upton of Michigan CD06 (Kalamazoo) > John Katko of New York CD24 (Syracuse) > Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio CD16 (Canton; former NFL player representing site of US Football Hall of Fame) > Tom Rice of South Carolina CD07 (Myrtle Beach) > Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington CD03 (Vancouver) > Dan Newhouse of Washington CD04 (Yakima) > Liz Cheney of Wyoming At-large
Proud that two are from Washington State. Including one whom I've helped campaign against in the not-so-distant past.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I doubt it's coming here in the UK. USA, probably.
I would not pay to queue jump - it's not the money, it's the principle.
Don't be daft. London is a global wealth centre. There are tens of thousands of people here who would happily pay £1000 or more for a jab technically costing £20
It will be here in about a week. Watch this space. It is already in UAE and NYC
The number of new variants rather worry me. This one originated in Amazonas, one of the places in the world most approaching herd immunity. The endemic nature of the virus must be leading to a lot of evolutionary pressure.
I am afraid that there are a lot of chapters left in the coronavirus story.
Yes. The next few years are going to be an attritional war between new mutations of the virus and new evolutions of the vaccine. Hopefully, Pharma Cos will be smart enough to keep us ahead of the bug, most of the time
But normal life - eg travelling wherever you like in the world, at the drop of a feathered hat -has gone for for the foreseeable future
Sell shares in adventure travel companies, buy shares in Big Pharma and biotech
I disagree. If this lasts longer than the next 9 months, in the UK, we won't be able to afford lockdowns and will just alter our risk perceptions.
Oh goody, thank you - I do like to read a nice story of the struggle against the Malignants.
It’s pretty scathing about the Covenanters as well. Basically makes the case the civil war a coup by excluded group of nobles who manipulated parliament and acted treasonably with the Scots
So Royalist revisionism? I can see why you like it.
Question: how many PBers would pay a large sum of cash - say £1000+ - to get the jab privately?
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
I doubt it's coming here in the UK. USA, probably.
I would not pay to queue jump - it's not the money, it's the principle.
I fully expect to hear in due course you will be able to get it done in Turkey, so fairly easily available to Europeans. You will have to have the Russian or Chinese one though.
That would be dumb. You have the risk of travelling to get it and being infected on the way (or way back), the risk that you don’t know for sure what you will be getting, and most of us are due to be done in the next few months anyway.
I am not saying I am going to, but I bet there would be a market for it.
I hope they are far better then yesterday’s dismal return.
About 225k.
Thanks.
Much better! Let’s keep this rate of increase up.
Need to stabilise at 350k/day.
Yes, hopefully tomorrow will be even better. I think we'll get to ~300k by the end of this week and maybe 400k by the end of next week and almost all of them will be first jabs too.
They do 300k / day easily if there is supply, that's the issue at the moment.
I think the supply is almost ready for well over 3m jabs per week.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
I can remember what greengrocers were like pre-1973 in the autumn to spring months. Not quite wall to wall turnips, kail, other brassicas, carrots and spuds, not far off it outside the twee urban specialists. That's a hell of a reversion, for a start.
What I still don't quite understand is how I can still buy everything at the shops I want when RP says that the system isn't fit for purpose. We're 13 days into the year, during a pandemic when everyone is eating at home. How come the delays aren't feeding through to problems yet?
Because: 1. We've just had Christmas. Retailers stockpile the shit out of stuff hoping to sell it 2. We've just had a "never mind that shit here comes Mungo Brexit" event which led to so much stuff being force imported in December that the chaos at ports was widely reported 3. We're eating at home but the industry was stocked up for a Christmas that got cancelled at the last minute. Foodstuffs not eaten in hastily closed restaurants can be redirected.
There is a real and growing shortage of fresh food. It isn't universal yet because supply chain inefficiencies. But it is there. And everything else? We're burning through imported stockpiles.
But cross border traffic is just 20% of normal. We can't keep going for much longer before major gaps appear. Nor can the logistics industry keep going as it is - in Norniron they have said they fall over within a week
Is there a Vanilla facility to 'save' a post? It would be fun to have a little 'wallet' of saved posts to look at in the future like a photo album of embarrassing school pics.
The number of new variants rather worry me. This one originated in Amazonas, one of the places in the world most approaching herd immunity. The endemic nature of the virus must be leading to a lot of evolutionary pressure.
I am afraid that there are a lot of chapters left in the coronavirus story.
Yes. The next few years are going to be an attritional war between new mutations of the virus and new evolutions of the vaccine. Hopefully, Pharma Cos will be smart enough to keep us ahead of the bug, most of the time
But normal life - eg travelling wherever you like in the world, at the drop of a feathered hat -has gone for for the foreseeable future
Sell shares in adventure travel companies, buy shares in Big Pharma and biotech
I think that's true but I also think we'll simply learn to live with it too, and accept a new risk level.
Provided we're not being hospitalised and dying en-masse that is.
Interesting - CNN commentator saying disqualification for future office isn’t an automatic consequence of impeachment and conviction, but has to be voted on separately (in the event of conviction).
If convicted that does not seem like it would prove a problem.
Especially as disqualification for future office only requires a simple majority.
This is the attaction for GOP to support impeachment, that they can then vote for future disqualification. The last thing they want is Trump running again in 2024 either inside or outside the GOP.
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
I can remember what greengrocers were like pre-1973 in the autumn to spring months. Not quite wall to wall turnips, kail, other brassicas, carrots and spuds, not far off it outside the twee urban specialists. That's a hell of a reversion, for a start.
What I still don't quite understand is how I can still buy everything at the shops I want when RP says that the system isn't fit for purpose. We're 13 days into the year, during a pandemic when everyone is eating at home. How come the delays aren't feeding through to problems yet?
Because: 1. We've just had Christmas. Retailers stockpile the shit out of stuff hoping to sell it 2. We've just had a "never mind that shit here comes Mungo Brexit" event which led to so much stuff being force imported in December that the chaos at ports was widely reported 3. We're eating at home but the industry was stocked up for a Christmas that got cancelled at the last minute. Foodstuffs not eaten in hastily closed restaurants can be redirected.
There is a real and growing shortage of fresh food. It isn't universal yet because supply chain inefficiencies. But it is there. And everything else? We're burning through imported stockpiles.
But cross border traffic is just 20% of normal. We can't keep going for much longer before major gaps appear. Nor can the logistics industry keep going as it is - in Norniron they have said they fall over within a week
Thanks for the info. So when should I expect to not see any raspberries, soft lettuce or spinach on the shelves?
@RochdalePioneers - how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?
An insightful question that magically fixes all of the problems today.
What happened before? 1. It took time! Delays that disappeared completely with the EEA and CU 2. Traffic was significantly lower. We didn't have an integrated logistics network plugged into "the continent" with large amounts of stuff passing backward and forward on a just in time basis
So "it worked before so it will work now" is pointing out that because we used to be able to build Saturn 5 rockets it would be easy to build a new one and go back to the moon.
You want to try again?
Are you this unnecessarily rude in real life, or just on here?
My feeling is that what is mostly likely to change is the supply chains. The logistics networks.
Interestingly, I don't seem to have any problems with post to Europe. Despite the pandemic.
Your question was "it was fine before wasn't it". Well yes, something completely different now worked in a fashion then.
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
No, it was 'how was accompanied freight handled pre our accession to EEC?'.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
I can remember what greengrocers were like pre-1973 in the autumn to spring months. Not quite wall to wall turnips, kail, other brassicas, carrots and spuds, not far off it outside the twee urban specialists. That's a hell of a reversion, for a start.
What I still don't quite understand is how I can still buy everything at the shops I want when RP says that the system isn't fit for purpose. We're 13 days into the year, during a pandemic when everyone is eating at home. How come the delays aren't feeding through to problems yet?
Because: 1. We've just had Christmas. Retailers stockpile the shit out of stuff hoping to sell it 2. We've just had a "never mind that shit here comes Mungo Brexit" event which led to so much stuff being force imported in December that the chaos at ports was widely reported 3. We're eating at home but the industry was stocked up for a Christmas that got cancelled at the last minute. Foodstuffs not eaten in hastily closed restaurants can be redirected.
There is a real and growing shortage of fresh food. It isn't universal yet because supply chain inefficiencies. But it is there. And everything else? We're burning through imported stockpiles.
But cross border traffic is just 20% of normal. We can't keep going for much longer before major gaps appear. Nor can the logistics industry keep going as it is - in Norniron they have said they fall over within a week
Is there a Vanilla facility to 'save' a post? It would be fun to have a little 'wallet' of saved posts to look at in the future like a photo album of embarrassing school pics.
Feel free to bookmark me. I'm not saying anything that an increasingly alarmed industry isn't saying. What would they know about it?
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Much better! Let’s keep this rate of increase up.
Need to stabilise at 350k/day.
for a total (1st and 2nd dose) of
3,067,541
So what? We can't undo 30 years of progress and go status quo ante.
The only way to fix the supply chains is to allow them to effectively trade. Otherwise the change you will see will be businesses closing down, and less choice and higher costs for UK consumers.
Five not voting - one Democrat (believe this is Alcee Hastings, who has pancreatic cancer) and four Republicans, of which (I think) at least two are absent due to COVID.
https://twitter.com/RichJolly/status/1349471144299081731
Am I right?
I still don't think they will make their mid Feb target, but realistically if they can do start of March say, I think that's a bloody good effort all round.
You voted for it.
STFU.
I am afraid that there are a lot of chapters left in the coronavirus story.
Strikes me that supply chains are likely to change in weeks or months, there will be no political change to the treaties for years.
If STFU is your message I hope we hear nothing from you about the coming shortages.
If 1-in-7 anti-Coup Republican Senators vote for conviction that would be 6. So they need to triple that proportion in the Senate.
For less fortunate countries, it could be horrendous.
https://twistedfood.co.uk/the-weirdest-and-most-bizarre-prison-food-from-around-the-world
The only bits of work being done in the UK will be either whole manufacturing processes or final bits of finishing off.
"This isn't the Brexit we voted for" - thats the phrase you will be hearing a lot. People definitely didn't vote for shortages and price rises. Yet that is what they are getting.
Get on with it Boris!
I voted to leave the EU. Leaving the EEA and CU to cripple ourselves wasn't what was billed.
So things were a little fraught at the end.
I've already repented the stupidity of my vote.
I could personally make a major contribution to remedying the situation.
This will soon be a moral dilemma for all of us. It is coming.
I was amazed when I asked this of a Corbynite novelist friend of mine today. She's pretty ultra-left. I've heard her denouncing private medicine (private anything) before. She said God yes, I'd pay it today, where is it?
All her principles out the window, just like that
Too busy spending all that money he won on Biden's election.
I have gone rather bearish on my views on the economy as a result. The first vaccine resistant variant is going to come as quite a hammer blow.
https://twitter.com/SnoozeInBrief/status/1349471441058717699
The most liberal of my mates now want people fined for driving 5 miles to have a walk with a mate.
I am baffled. But most relieved to hear that vaccine passports/certificates have been ruled out by the govt. Another little bit of coronachondria which the PB consensus seems to have got wrong.
£1000 for a working vaccine seems very low, given the current supply, the peace of mind it would provide and opportunity to live more normally. I spent more on exercise equipment during this pandemic.
https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/elderly-care/gps-expected-to-vaccinate-all-care-homes-by-end-of-this-week/
I would not pay to queue jump - it's not the money, it's the principle.
If true (a huge if) Sean's fantasy fictional novel about this is perhaps ever so slightly closer to the truth than we thought back in March:
"British diplomats are bracing for the United States to make grave allegations against China, linked to "dangerous" coronavirus research in Wuhan.
Donald Trump is thought to be intent on firing a final salvo against Beijing over the Covid crisis in one of his last acts before he departs the Oval Office next week.
UK sources believe Mike Pompeo, the US Secretary of State, could make a public intervention as soon as Wednesday involving the declassification of American intelligence on the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
The US may allege that the People's Liberation Army was running research projects that involved "cultivating dangerous coronaviruses" in a series of animal species at the laboratory, a UK source told The Telegraph.
Such claims would prompt a raft of further questions about why the Chinese military would be involved in this kind of project, including any links to the development of potential bioweapons.
Washington is expected to stop short of alleging that Covid-19 first originated from the biological laboratory, however."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/13/us-report-covid-19s-origins-expected-say-chinese-army-grew-dangerous/
I must say that thought is very depressing. I literally have no idea what I'm going to do if that happens.
How would you know it was kosher?
1. We've just had Christmas. Retailers stockpile the shit out of stuff hoping to sell it
2. We've just had a "never mind that shit here comes
MungoBrexit" event which led to so much stuff being force imported in December that the chaos at ports was widely reported3. We're eating at home but the industry was stocked up for a Christmas that got cancelled at the last minute. Foodstuffs not eaten in hastily closed restaurants can be redirected.
There is a real and growing shortage of fresh food. It isn't universal yet because supply chain inefficiencies. But it is there. And everything else? We're burning through imported stockpiles.
But cross border traffic is just 20% of normal. We can't keep going for much longer before major gaps appear. Nor can the logistics industry keep going as it is - in Norniron they have said they fall over within a week
Are you bearish on equities too or just the economy?
But normal life - eg travelling wherever you like in the world, at the drop of a feathered hat -has gone for for the foreseeable future
Sell shares in adventure travel companies, buy shares in Big Pharma and biotech
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-aurobindo-pharm-va/aurobindo-pharma-to-make-covaxxs-potential-covid-19-vaccine-for-india-unicef-idUSKBN28Y0EM
This only ends if the biggest and most transmissive vector groups in our population are all vaccinated en-mass as quickly as possible.
(PS. As for the "principle" stuff it doesn't surprise me - and this is why I have so little time (and respect) for the incessant virtue-signalling of the hard-Left on fashionable issues and causes. Most of them are insecure narcissists and hypocrites who just want public social proof to validate themselves and address their deep-rooted personal insecurities. They should start with just one: integrity.)
> David Valadao of California CD21 (San Joaquin Valley)
> Adam Kinzinger of Illinois CD10 (Rockford)
> Peter Meijer of Michigan CD03 (Grand Rapids; Gerald Ford's old congressional district)
> Fred Upton of Michigan CD06 (Kalamazoo)
> John Katko of New York CD24 (Syracuse)
> Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio CD16 (Canton; former NFL player representing site of US Football Hall of Fame)
> Tom Rice of South Carolina CD07 (Myrtle Beach)
> Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington CD03 (Vancouver)
> Dan Newhouse of Washington CD04 (Yakima)
> Liz Cheney of Wyoming At-large
Proud that two are from Washington State. Including one whom I've helped campaign against in the not-so-distant past.
It will be here in about a week. Watch this space. It is already in UAE and NYC
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/13/tory-london-mayor-candidate-homeless-can-save-up-for-house-deposit
Provided we're not being hospitalised and dying en-masse that is.
This is the attaction for GOP to support impeachment, that they can then vote for future disqualification. The last thing they want is Trump running again in 2024 either inside or outside the GOP.