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  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421

    Apologies if this is a stupid question.

    But if proceedings for impeachment are started against Trump can they continue even after he has stopped officially being President? I am minded that all former Presidents are still referred to as President even after they are out of office.

    My main question is whether they can carry on with the aim of preventing him standing again?

    Nobody knows, as the question has never arisen.

    I would have said the likeliest answer is no, because once a President leaves office they become ordinary citizens and therefore subject to the usual court system. But I’ve seen it argued otherwise.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/06/can-former-presidents-be-impeached/
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,001
    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    Nippy's pals think Eck blew their one big chance.

    Eck's pals think Nippy is going to blow their next one big chance.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    stodge said:

    Evening all :)

    I'm not aware of how impeachment works once a President leaves office - only 8 GOP Senators opposed the calling of the results but whether a third of the caucus would break ranks to back impeachment seems debatable.

    There's a stronger argument for letting the clock run out on Trump and looking at his "indiscretions" (real or imagined) once he is out of the Oval Office.

    I'm sure that is what most will do, but there are apparently distinct advantages to not just letting the clock run out. At least make a stab at it now.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    Salmond is a sex pest.

    Sturgeon shopped him.

    Salmond has not forgiven her.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    It goes back to 2016 and the SNP not getting a majority and then losing seats in 2017.

    Also there's lashings transphobia and Salmond not realising he is yesterday's man.

    There isn't a simple summary.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Meet the brains trust of the Patriots

    https://twitter.com/iheartmindy/status/1347630575159570442
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    Salmond is a sex pest.

    Sturgeon shopped him.

    Salmond has not forgiven her.
    But she only shopped him because he was wanting to restand as an MSP after losing his Westminster seat in 2017.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    That revving noise you heard was the boat powering the water skier as he jumped his 154th shark.
  • Kwasi Kwarteng replaces him as business secretary while Anne-Marie Trevelyan becomes the new energy minister.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55588750

    Rob's mate finally got a top job.

    The 1993 Newcastle Classical Prizeman promoted by the 1981 Newcastle Classical Prizeman...
    Two Geordies in government? It shows the worth of a good education.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    Alistair said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    Salmond is a sex pest.

    Sturgeon shopped him.

    Salmond has not forgiven her.
    But she only shopped him because he was wanting to restand as an MSP after losing his Westminster seat in 2017.
    I’m not sure the ‘why’ matters. It’s the ‘shopped’ that he’s narked about.

    Truthfully, to say the least it doesn’t show either of them in a flattering light, but given the paucity of opposition i can’t see it having much electoral impact.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,996
    edited January 2021
    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    HYUFD will sort ye out.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421


    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    HYUFD will sort ye out.
    Never knew @Foxy was Spanish.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    Floater said:
    It's well known that shouting 'USA' entitles you to do anything you want at all times. We don't have an equivalent because of our monarchical oppression. And really, who needs to be able to hear what the captain of an airplane might have to say?

    Those returning from drunken stag nights just need to chant the same thing and they will stop being upbraided too.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,893
    Another difficult day with an awful figure of deaths and another worryingly high number of cases.

    Here in London Sadiq Khan's proclamation of a "major incident" had us all panicking though about as much as similar announcements in Surrey and East & West Sussex on Wednesday.

    The key differences to this observer between now and March/April are the continuation of work on construction sites. These sites employ a lot of people not just on the sites themselves but as subbies and suppliers so that's a whole sector still operating which shut down in the spring.

    My local cafe is still open albeit for takeaway only and the owner is now dead against anyone waiting inside for their food - methinks someone had a word. Nonetheless, he'll still do a decent Full English even if waiting outside on a cold January day isn't comfortable.
  • ydoethur said:


    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    HYUFD will sort ye out.
    Never knew @Foxy was Spanish.
    Foxy is a ghastly Remain enabler of the Natz; that’s enough for HYUFD to get his truncheon out.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,929
    edited January 2021
    1000 Villa if anyone wants to follow @TheScreamingEagles in on his tip now they are 3-1 down.

    ETA 4-1 down.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,713


    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    HYUFD will sort ye out.
    Tanks for all your help!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,696
    Scott_xP said:

    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    Nippy's pals think Eck blew their one big chance.

    Eck's pals think Nippy is going to blow their next one big chance.
    I don't know what the Eck wing are afraid of. Do they think Labour-style pseudofederalism is going to solve the UK's constitutional problems?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,666
    edited January 2021

    ydoethur said:


    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    HYUFD will sort ye out.
    Never knew @Foxy was Spanish.
    Foxy is a ghastly Remain enabler of the Natz; that’s enough for HYUFD to get his truncheon out.
    What is it with you Scot Nats with your disgusting innuendos?

    You fantasising about HYUFD getting his truncheon out, Alistair was talking about Joanne Cherry riding Alex Salmond's tiger earlier on.
  • I see Liverpool have decided to stop dicking about.
  • 1000 Villa if anyone wants to follow @TheScreamingEagles in on his tip now they are 3-1 down.

    You never will anything with kids....
  • Ex-MP quits Labour ahead of sexual harassment disciplinary process

    Kelvin Hopkins was suspended by the party in 2017 after a Labour activist, Ava Etemadzadeh, accused him of inappropriate physical contact.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55588756
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,713
    I knew that I would regret asking...
  • 1000 Villa if anyone wants to follow @TheScreamingEagles in on his tip now they are 3-1 down.

    ETA 4-1 down.

    It was an excellent trading bet as Villa were as low as 20 earlier on/
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,165
    edited January 2021
    Floater said:
    Ah Mindy again. I'm beginning to wonder if there was part of me that was secretly hoping to see her man the barricades in the bikini and semi-automatic rifle pose from her profile pic.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,882
    ydoethur said:


    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    HYUFD will sort ye out.
    Never knew @Foxy was Spanish.
    Catalunyan surely.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,706
    kle4 said:

    We don't have an equivalent because of our monarchical oppression.
    .

    It's also the scansion, right?

    U-S-A! U-S-A! Yup, that works.
    U-K! U-K! Doesn't quite cut it somehow. U-N-K?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:


    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    HYUFD will sort ye out.
    Never knew @Foxy was Spanish.
    Catalunyan surely.
    It’s not Catalonia that bothers him, it’s Gibraltar.
  • ydoethur said:

    IanB2 said:

    Derrick Evans, a West Virginia state legislator who recorded himself storming the Capitol on Wednesday, faces criminal charges, US officials said.

    Evans has been charged in a criminal complaint with entering restricted area and entering the US Capitol, said Ken Kohl, a top official in the US attorney’s office for Washington, DC.

    I just cannot understand anyone who is stupid enough to record themselves committing a criminal offence.

    I mean, just - why?
    Representative Evans is now claiming he was there as "media" though strangely he removed his self-coverage from his social media.

    Note that his criminal actions have been condemned by Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV), Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV), Gov. Jim Justice (R-WV), the Republican Speaker of the WV State House of Delegates (to which Evans currently belongs)
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,713

    kle4 said:

    We don't have an equivalent because of our monarchical oppression.
    .

    It's also the scansion, right?

    U-S-A! U-S-A! Yup, that works.
    U-K! U-K! Doesn't quite cut it somehow. U-N-K?
    ING-GER-LAND works...
  • The referee tonight is Craig Pawson. I asked my dad what he thought of him and he said 'He's poor, son'. I said 'I know, but what do you think of him?'. It was then that my dad then initiated proceedings to disown me.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,706
    Foxy said:

    kle4 said:

    We don't have an equivalent because of our monarchical oppression.
    .

    It's also the scansion, right?

    U-S-A! U-S-A! Yup, that works.
    U-K! U-K! Doesn't quite cut it somehow. U-N-K?
    ING-GER-LAND works...
    Ah, how remiss of me.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,092
    edited January 2021
    Chris Whitty to front warning ads as UK Covid deaths hit new daily peak

    Amid growing concern in government over compliance with lockdown rules, Chris Whitty will be the face of adverts on radio, TV and social media from Friday evening. Urging people to behave as cautiously as if they are already infected, he said: “Covid-19, especially the new variant, is spreading quickly across the country. This puts many people at risk of serious disease and is placing a lot of pressure on our NHS.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/08/uk-covid-deaths-reach-new-daily-peak-and-set-to-stay-there-a-month

    I think they should have made all the Z-List celeb that have been abroad for "business", to do the campaigns for free....don't be a dick like me, stay in your house.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,478

    kle4 said:

    We don't have an equivalent because of our monarchical oppression.
    .

    It's also the scansion, right?

    U-S-A! U-S-A! Yup, that works.
    U-K! U-K! Doesn't quite cut it somehow. U-N-K?
    U-K-G-B-N-I - not as catchy
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868

    kle4 said:

    We don't have an equivalent because of our monarchical oppression.
    .

    It's also the scansion, right?

    U-S-A! U-S-A! Yup, that works.
    U-K! U-K! Doesn't quite cut it somehow. U-N-K?
    Engerland, surely?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,361
    edited January 2021

    ydoethur said:

    IanB2 said:

    Derrick Evans, a West Virginia state legislator who recorded himself storming the Capitol on Wednesday, faces criminal charges, US officials said.

    Evans has been charged in a criminal complaint with entering restricted area and entering the US Capitol, said Ken Kohl, a top official in the US attorney’s office for Washington, DC.

    I just cannot understand anyone who is stupid enough to record themselves committing a criminal offence.

    I mean, just - why?
    Representative Evans is now claiming he was there as "media" though strangely he removed his self-coverage from his social media.

    Note that his criminal actions have been condemned by Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV), Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV), Gov. Jim Justice (R-WV), the Republican Speaker of the WV State House of Delegates (to which Evans currently belongs)
    FBI Special Agent Michael Casper : In thirteen years with the Bureau, I've discovered that there's no amount of money, manpower or knowledge that can equal the person you're looking for being stupid.

    President Josiah Bartlet : God, well... Some of the stupidest criminals in the world are working right here in America. I've always been very proud of that.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    IanB2 said:

    kle4 said:

    We don't have an equivalent because of our monarchical oppression.
    .

    It's also the scansion, right?

    U-S-A! U-S-A! Yup, that works.
    U-K! U-K! Doesn't quite cut it somehow. U-N-K?
    Engerland, surely?
    Shows what happens to meet the necessity of the scan, but just doesn't work for the UK. I guess we aren't a proper country after all.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,600
    HYUFD said:
    Pence better stay close to Trump. You never know what he might do if the the grown-ups aren't around.....
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,882
    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:


    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    HYUFD will sort ye out.
    Never knew @Foxy was Spanish.
    Catalunyan surely.
    It’s not Catalonia that bothers him, it’s Gibraltar.
    He doesn't like Catalunyans either for wanting to secede from Spain. The same lot who want to take over Gib.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,666
    edited January 2021
    Michael Apted has died.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    They'll want to rerun that poll petty sharpish.
  • Leon said:

    Jesus. America is heading into a very dark place.

    What a horrible week. Perhaps the worst week of my adult life, in terms of global politics and current affairs.

    China crushes Hong Kong. America suffers a quasi-coup. Britain teeters on the edge of national disaster.
    In fact, the clouds are beginning to lift.

    Fact that Lindsay Graham is target for heckling is NOT surprising, he's a prime target from across the political spectrum as a total hypocrite 24/7, 365+1 for leap year. Does NOT mean that the sky is falling.

    Trumpsky has beaten himself in a way that no body else ever could.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    (CNN) The US may have its own version of a more transmissible coronavirus and that might be helping fuel the already aggressive spread of the virus, the White House coronavirus task force said in its latest report to states this week. Reports sent by the task force to states dated January 3 warned of the possibility of a "USA variant" of Covid-19.

    "This fall/winter surge has been at nearly twice the rate of rise of cases as the spring and summer surges. This acceleration suggests there may be a USA variant that has evolved here, in addition to the UK variant that is already spreading in our communities and may be 50% more transmissible," reports obtained by CNN said, calling for "aggressive mitigation ... to match a much more aggressive virus."
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,441
    Floater said:

    One of my sons went for a walk over xmas with 1 person - he now has covid

    He lives alone and he doesn't seem too bad so that's something

    Crikey. You think he caught the bug on an outdoor walk? How?

    Sympathies, anyway
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868

    ydoethur said:

    IanB2 said:

    Derrick Evans, a West Virginia state legislator who recorded himself storming the Capitol on Wednesday, faces criminal charges, US officials said.

    Evans has been charged in a criminal complaint with entering restricted area and entering the US Capitol, said Ken Kohl, a top official in the US attorney’s office for Washington, DC.

    I just cannot understand anyone who is stupid enough to record themselves committing a criminal offence.

    I mean, just - why?
    Representative Evans is now claiming he was there as "media" though strangely he removed his self-coverage from his social media.

    Note that his criminal actions have been condemned by Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV), Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV), Gov. Jim Justice (R-WV), the Republican Speaker of the WV State House of Delegates (to which Evans currently belongs)
    FBI Special Agent Michael Casper : In thirteen years with the Bureau, I've discovered that there's no amount of money, manpower or knowledge that can equal the person you're looking for being stupid.

    President Josiah Bartlet : God, well... Some of the stupidest criminals in the world are working right here in America. I've always been very proud of that.
    I wonder how Elizabeth from Bowie, MD is getting on with her complaint against the riot organiser for the way she was treated when she tried to enter the capitol?
  • ydoethur said:


    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    HYUFD will sort ye out.
    Never knew @Foxy was Spanish.
    Foxy is a ghastly Remain enabler of the Natz; that’s enough for HYUFD to get his truncheon out.
    What is it with you Scot Nats with your disgusting innuendos?

    You fantasising about HYUFD getting his truncheon out, Alistair was talking about Joanne Cherry riding Alex Salmond's tiger earlier on.
    We’re filthy pervs* along with everything else.

    *not in an inappropriate touching way.
  • Floater said:
    Ah Mindy again. I'm beginning to wonder if there was part of me that was secretly hoping to see her man the barricades in the bikini and semi-automatic rifle pose from her profile pic.
    This and the heckling of Little Lindsay are proof that NOT all of the mob who stormed the Capitol came by bus. Many flew in and are now flying out.

    Pity the poor flight crews AND fellow passengers who must endure this scum.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,092
    edited January 2021
    IanB2 said:

    (CNN) The US may have its own version of a more transmissible coronavirus and that might be helping fuel the already aggressive spread of the virus, the White House coronavirus task force said in its latest report to states this week. Reports sent by the task force to states dated January 3 warned of the possibility of a "USA variant" of Covid-19.

    "This fall/winter surge has been at nearly twice the rate of rise of cases as the spring and summer surges. This acceleration suggests there may be a USA variant that has evolved here, in addition to the UK variant that is already spreading in our communities and may be 50% more transmissible," reports obtained by CNN said, calling for "aggressive mitigation ... to match a much more aggressive virus."

    The US mutant version of course will be bigger than every bodies else mutant versions....and extremely loud....you will hear it coming a mile off.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,478

    kle4 said:

    We don't have an equivalent because of our monarchical oppression.
    .

    It's also the scansion, right?

    U-S-A! U-S-A! Yup, that works.
    U-K! U-K! Doesn't quite cut it somehow. U-N-K?
    U-K-G-B-N-I - not as catchy
    It's fun to stay in the G-B-N-I.
    Theme tune suggestion for Better Together when there's another Indyref?

    I was thinking Strawbs 'Part of the Union':

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdOCWUgwiWs

  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited January 2021
    ydoethur said:

    Alistair said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    Salmond is a sex pest.

    Sturgeon shopped him.

    Salmond has not forgiven her.
    But she only shopped him because he was wanting to restand as an MSP after losing his Westminster seat in 2017.
    I’m not sure the ‘why’ matters. It’s the ‘shopped’ that he’s narked about.

    Truthfully, to say the least it doesn’t show either of them in a flattering light, but given the paucity of opposition i can’t see it having much electoral impact.
    The thing that would be deeply damaging to Sturgeon is if she'd known about the allegations for a decade before shopping Salmond.

    It would put a very different light on things.

    Let it not be failed to be said though that Salmond, as well as being a sex pest, is a grade A idiot. I can't think of anyone who has fallen faster in my eyes than him.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,001
    kle4 said:
    Assuming there are trials, I wonder how many will claim they were acting on the orders of the President?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    ydoethur said:


    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    HYUFD will sort ye out.
    Never knew @Foxy was Spanish.
    Foxy is a ghastly Remain enabler of the Natz; that’s enough for HYUFD to get his truncheon out.
    What is it with you Scot Nats with your disgusting innuendos?

    You fantasising about HYUFD getting his truncheon out, Alistair was talking about Joanne Cherry riding Alex Salmond's tiger earlier on.
    Whoa, whoa whoa. I was not talking about Cherry riding Salmond's Tiger! That's disgusting.

    The 'Tiger' I was talking about was the sweaty, writhing, seething mass of UDI seekers. She's riding them.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,092
    edited January 2021
    Just seen the new Chris Witty ad....I don't think it is very good. What we really need is something like those AIDs ads. Instead we get Chris going this new variant is bad, stay home, wash your hands.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    kle4 said:
    In the bottle, around 96%.

    Good night.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,766
    kle4 said:
    What about treason and sedition?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
  • dodradedodrade Posts: 597

    Michael Apted has died.

    Does this mean no 70 Up?
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468
    Floater said:
    Is it just me or are American word-processed documents always ugly as f*ck?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126

    kle4 said:
    What about treason and sedition?
    Pah, who even knows what those old fashioned words even mean?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,441

    Chris Whitty to front warning ads as UK Covid deaths hit new daily peak

    Amid growing concern in government over compliance with lockdown rules, Chris Whitty will be the face of adverts on radio, TV and social media from Friday evening. Urging people to behave as cautiously as if they are already infected, he said: “Covid-19, especially the new variant, is spreading quickly across the country. This puts many people at risk of serious disease and is placing a lot of pressure on our NHS.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/08/uk-covid-deaths-reach-new-daily-peak-and-set-to-stay-there-a-month

    I think they should have made all the Z-List celeb that have been abroad for "business", to do the campaigns for free....don't be a dick like me, stay in your house.

    What they need is really high profile fines and even arrests. Put the fear of God in the good people of Britain. Piers Morgan in prison. That kinda thing
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,600
    Scott_xP said:
    Why are these people being named now? Unless someone has taken away Trump's crayons, he's probably already scrawled out a pardon.....
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    edited January 2021
    Scott_xP said:
    I'm sorry I chopped your leg off, but since I'm going on holiday next week you should just focus on healing rather than botheing me.

    Edit: Minus the sorry, of course.

    Can't heal properly until the infection is removed anyway.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868

    Floater said:
    Is it just me or are American word-processed documents always ugly as f*ck?
    The Americans do love their serif.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,478
    kle4 said:

    Scott_xP said:
    I'm sorry I chopped your leg off, but since I'm going on holiday next week you should just focus on healing rather than botheing me.

    Edit: Minus the sorry, of course.

    Can't heal properly until the infection is removed anyway.
    You chopped Scot's leg off? You know you can just disable the Tweets from appearing right?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,001

    Why are these people being named now? Unless someone has taken away Trump's crayons, he's probably already scrawled out a pardon.....

    Has to sign them before the impeachment
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868

    Scott_xP said:
    Why are these people being named now? Unless someone has taken away Trump's crayons, he's probably already scrawled out a pardon.....
    You mean they are digging a hole to see if he’ll jump in?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,441
    Alistair said:

    ydoethur said:

    Alistair said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    Salmond is a sex pest.

    Sturgeon shopped him.

    Salmond has not forgiven her.
    But she only shopped him because he was wanting to restand as an MSP after losing his Westminster seat in 2017.
    I’m not sure the ‘why’ matters. It’s the ‘shopped’ that he’s narked about.

    Truthfully, to say the least it doesn’t show either of them in a flattering light, but given the paucity of opposition i can’t see it having much electoral impact.
    The thing that would be deeply damaging to Sturgeon is if she'd known about the allegations for a decade before shopping Salmond.

    It would put a very different light on things.

    Let it not be failed to be said though that Salmond, as well as being a sex pest, is a grade A idiot. I can't think of anyone who has fallen faster in my eyes than him.
    Does he still have a hardcore fanclub amongst the Nits? I know a number of them quietly despise Sturgeon (cf malcomg's characteristically gentle descriptions of her). Is Eck a Prince across the Water for some?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,882
    Leon said:

    Alistair said:

    ydoethur said:

    Alistair said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    Salmond is a sex pest.

    Sturgeon shopped him.

    Salmond has not forgiven her.
    But she only shopped him because he was wanting to restand as an MSP after losing his Westminster seat in 2017.
    I’m not sure the ‘why’ matters. It’s the ‘shopped’ that he’s narked about.

    Truthfully, to say the least it doesn’t show either of them in a flattering light, but given the paucity of opposition i can’t see it having much electoral impact.
    The thing that would be deeply damaging to Sturgeon is if she'd known about the allegations for a decade before shopping Salmond.

    It would put a very different light on things.

    Let it not be failed to be said though that Salmond, as well as being a sex pest, is a grade A idiot. I can't think of anyone who has fallen faster in my eyes than him.
    Does he still have a hardcore fanclub amongst the Nits? I know a number of them quietly despise Sturgeon (cf malcomg's characteristically gentle descriptions of her). Is Eck a Prince across the Water for some?
    You're confusing SNP members with Yes voters generally. Not the same thing by any means.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,893
    Scott_xP said:
    To be fair, that was an excellent statement by Trump whether through gritted teeth or not.

    Had that been the tone of his Presidency, he'd have been re-elected comfortably indeed bigly.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,713

    kle4 said:

    We don't have an equivalent because of our monarchical oppression.
    .

    It's also the scansion, right?

    U-S-A! U-S-A! Yup, that works.
    U-K! U-K! Doesn't quite cut it somehow. U-N-K?
    U-K-G-B-N-I - not as catchy
    It's fun to stay in the G-B-N-I.
    Theme tune suggestion for Better Together when there's another Indyref?

    I was thinking Strawbs 'Part of the Union':

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdOCWUgwiWs

    While The Strawbs were being tongue in cheek, that is a superb song for the Seventies zeitgeist. It was only when things went too far in the Winter of Discontent, that the unions became quite so unpopular.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    edited January 2021
    stodge said:

    Scott_xP said:
    To be fair, that was an excellent statement by Trump whether through gritted teeth or not.

    Had that been the tone of his Presidency, he'd have been re-elected comfortably indeed bigly.
    It's not an excellent statement if his character, history and actions make them patently self serving rather than indicative of any sincere wish for healing an unity. Words cannot simply be divorced from context.

    If he said 'All you need is love' those would be nice words, but it would not be an excellent statement coming from him. Particularly when all his other words show his desire is the very opposite of healing and unity.

    The words are fine, but as a statement they are not, from him.
  • Alistair said:

    ydoethur said:


    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    HYUFD will sort ye out.
    Never knew @Foxy was Spanish.
    Foxy is a ghastly Remain enabler of the Natz; that’s enough for HYUFD to get his truncheon out.
    What is it with you Scot Nats with your disgusting innuendos?

    You fantasising about HYUFD getting his truncheon out, Alistair was talking about Joanne Cherry riding Alex Salmond's tiger earlier on.
    Whoa, whoa whoa. I was not talking about Cherry riding Salmond's Tiger! That's disgusting.

    The 'Tiger' I was talking about was the sweaty, writhing, seething mass of UDI seekers. She's riding them.
    As everybody on here knows, my mind is never in the gutter.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,441
    Floater said:
    I'm really not sure this stuff is wise. Eventually Republicans will retake power and they will have an urge for revenge on social media giants acting as state censors for Biden.

    Democrats are acting as if they won the election by a landslide and they have nearly all of America on their side, against a tiny seditious minority.

    The polls, unfortunately, show this is not the case.

    America is headed for even greater polarisation - and conflict. Maybe it is inevitable.

    It's like Brexit, but with 7 billion semi automatic machine guns.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,441
    Carnyx said:

    Leon said:

    Alistair said:

    ydoethur said:

    Alistair said:

    ydoethur said:

    Foxy said:

    I am sure I am about to regret asking, but can anyone explain to me the internal feud of the SNP in simple terms?

    Salmond is a sex pest.

    Sturgeon shopped him.

    Salmond has not forgiven her.
    But she only shopped him because he was wanting to restand as an MSP after losing his Westminster seat in 2017.
    I’m not sure the ‘why’ matters. It’s the ‘shopped’ that he’s narked about.

    Truthfully, to say the least it doesn’t show either of them in a flattering light, but given the paucity of opposition i can’t see it having much electoral impact.
    The thing that would be deeply damaging to Sturgeon is if she'd known about the allegations for a decade before shopping Salmond.

    It would put a very different light on things.

    Let it not be failed to be said though that Salmond, as well as being a sex pest, is a grade A idiot. I can't think of anyone who has fallen faster in my eyes than him.
    Does he still have a hardcore fanclub amongst the Nits? I know a number of them quietly despise Sturgeon (cf malcomg's characteristically gentle descriptions of her). Is Eck a Prince across the Water for some?
    You're confusing SNP members with Yes voters generally. Not the same thing by any means.
    OK, how about..... does he still have a hardcore fanclub amongst Yes voters?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    Leon said:

    Floater said:
    Democrats are acting as if they won the election by a landslide and they have nearly all of America on their side, against a tiny seditious minority.
    Biden isn't.

    As for the actions of twitter et al not being wise, the thing is many of these examples do appear to be blatant violations of their policies, so leaving them up would be pandering to them because of their politics, so they are kind of caught here.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,353
    edited January 2021

    1000 Villa if anyone wants to follow @TheScreamingEagles in on his tip now they are 3-1 down.

    ETA 4-1 down.

    It was an excellent trading bet as Villa were as low as 20 earlier on/
    For once you have something to be modest about, TSE. ;)
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    edited January 2021
    Leon said:

    Floater said:
    I'm really not sure this stuff is wise. Eventually Republicans will retake power and they will have an urge for revenge on social media giants acting as state censors for Biden.

    Democrats are acting as if they won the election by a landslide and they have nearly all of America on their side, against a tiny seditious minority.

    The polls, unfortunately, show this is not the case.

    America is headed for even greater polarisation - and conflict. Maybe it is inevitable.

    It's like Brexit, but with 7 billion semi automatic machine guns.
    The Republicans who will take power some day will NOT be interested in seeking revenge for the likes of Flynn & Sidney Powell, let alone Trumpsky.

    The majority of people who just voted to re-elect Trumpsky do NOT support his inciting a mob to attack the Capitol of the United States.
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