Boris Johnson to announce that myrrh is excluded from essential shopping item. Visits to see a hungry child in a manger excluded from FCO essential travel advice.
Myrrh's more necessary than ever I would have thought.
It absolutely won't be just 2 weeks....I can foresee it being supposed a month and in reality the daft twats will release us all 3 days before Christmas and all the idiots will charge down the boozer, etc....and we will be back to the same again by Feb.
The expenses scandal revealed the mild-crookedness of many MPs, COVID-19 has revealed a large number of the members of parliament to be innumerate, lacking even basic scientific knowledge, and incapable of extrapolation and planning. To put it bluntly I would guess that at least half of all MPs are essentially useless.
And 90% of the other half are positively dangerous.
Lordy, if only people had warned that Boris Johnson wasn't very good at governing before he became PM.
Tory bloody idiots saying "he won London twice!" Yes, against Ken Livingstone. But anyone paying attention to what he did in office will know that Johnson regularly got taken to task by the London Assembly for not being on top of his brief. He's clever and funny, but he's also a lazy beggar who has bluffed his way through life. Johnson is precisely the sort of person you do not want doing an important job.
Well if they are shut for the next 6 months its actually pretty easy for them to plan! The plan might not be pleasant and involve millions of unemployed.
It absolutely won't be just 2 weeks....I can foresee it being supposed a month and in reality the daft twats will release us all 3 days before Christmas and all the idiots will charge down the boozer, etc....and we will be back to the same again by Feb.
Have you been leaked the detailed plan? Certainly sounds like it.
The expenses scandal revealed the mild-crookedness of many MPs, COVID-19 has revealed a large number of the members of parliament to be innumerate, lacking even basic scientific knowledge, and incapable of extrapolation and planning. To put it bluntly I would guess that at least half of all MPs are essentially useless.
Not just MPs, the media and many parts of the wider state have been equally useless in ability to understand some fundamental basics.
Well if they are shut for the next 6 months its actually pretty easy for them to plan! The plan might not be pleasant and involve millions of unemployed.
It absolutely won't be just 2 weeks....I can foresee it being supposed a month and in reality the daft twats will release us all 3 days before Christmas and all the idiots will charge down the boozer, etc....and we will be back to the same again by Feb.
Have you been leaked the detailed plan? Certainly sounds like it.
It's ok. I doubt there will be any pubs open under that scenario.
It absolutely won't be just 2 weeks....I can foresee it being supposed a month and in reality the daft twats will release us all 3 days before Christmas and all the idiots will charge down the boozer, etc....and we will be back to the same again by Feb.
Have you been leaked the detailed plan? Certainly sounds like it.
There is a detailed plan...you are having a laugh. Everything is always reactive, rather than proactive.
I bet you they don't ban foreign holidays for Christmas either.
Ok, because of the kerfuffle I ran the cartoon past a professional cartoonist, who incidentally hadn't seen it before and wasn't aware of the AS concerns.
We concluded it's a good cartoon cartoon idea, but the execution is poor (no pun intended). The main trouble is that Starmer is unrecognisable. He looks more like Cameron! What's more, he's been made to look effete. The reason for this is unclear, and doesn't seem to serve any comedic or political purpose. (Corbyn is also a poor likeness but that matters less.)
This is a shame because the idea of Starmer decapitating metaphorically his adversary is a strong one, especially as real beheadings are very much in the news.
Is it anti-semitic? Not in a million years. There's no Jewish trope here, and no caricature that could be interpreted as such.
Like Foxy says, "The implication that the Jews wanted an innocent man's head on a plate."
So that's NOT anti-semitic? Sorry, but think you are wrong here. Trouble is not crap drawing but rather loaded, coded message.
Also, this cartoonist was "unaware of the anti-Semitic issue" and this is when he, or she, is judging a cartoon, which is all about a politician cashiered for anti-Semitism?
That's utterly ridiculous. Anti-Semitism is THE central issue here, it is the reason for the cartoon's existence. So if you are unaware of that you can't have any opinion on the image, as you are clueless of the vital context.
Aren't we praising the French for publishing religiously offensive cartoons?
It's not difficult to gauge just how dreadfully serious the Covid-19 crisis has become when today, with the final Brexit negotiations supposed at an absolutely crucial stage, there has been absolutely no comment relating thereto on PB.com.
Well if they are shut for the next 6 months its actually pretty easy for them to plan! The plan might not be pleasant and involve millions of unemployed.
A penny for Sunak's thoughts tonight?
Resignation watch?
I must take my tape measure into Number 10 tomorrow and measure up those curtains.
It's not difficult to gauge just how dreadfully serious the Covid-19 crisis has become when today, with the final Brexit negotiations supposed at an absolutely crucial stage, there has been absolutely no comment relating thereto on PB.com.
Ah. Didn't think of that. Maybe tonight's headlines are just there to bury bad news...
It absolutely won't be just 2 weeks....I can foresee it being supposed a month and in reality the daft twats will release us all 3 days before Christmas and all the idiots will charge down the boozer, etc....and we will be back to the same again by Feb.
Have you been leaked the detailed plan? Certainly sounds like it.
It's not difficult to gauge just how dreadfully serious the Covid-19 crisis has become when today, with the final Brexit negotiations supposed at an absolutely crucial stage, there has been absolutely no comment relating thereto on PB.com.
There were at least a handful of Brexit posts this morning.
Lordy, if only people had warned that Boris Johnson wasn't very good at governing before he became PM.
Tory bloody idiots saying "he won London twice!" Yes, against Ken Livingstone. But anyone paying attention to what he did in office will know that Johnson regularly got taken to task by the London Assembly for not being on top of his brief. He's clever and funny, but he's also a lazy beggar who has bluffed his way through life. Johnson is precisely the sort of person you do not want doing an important job.
Boris Johnson might be the exception who disproves Von Hammerstein's views on lazy and clever officers as being fit for promotion to high positions.
It absolutely won't be just 2 weeks....I can foresee it being supposed a month and in reality the daft twats will release us all 3 days before Christmas and all the idiots will charge down the boozer, etc....and we will be back to the same again by Feb.
Every time they've tried to "save X" — where X is pubs, restaurants, holidays, and so on — it seems to have made things worse. The idea that we can choose to "save Christmas" without risking doing the wrong thing at precisely the wrong time is nuts. Genuinely fucking nuts. I would expect members of SAGE to start resigning.
Well if they are shut for the next 6 months its actually pretty easy for them to plan! The plan might not be pleasant and involve millions of unemployed.
If they want to "save Christmas", given that we've now agreed it's not about Christianity, the best thing to do would be to move Christmas Day and boxing Day to April sometime. Perhaps coincide it with Easter.
The expenses scandal revealed the mild-crookedness of many MPs, COVID-19 has revealed a large number of the members of parliament to be innumerate, lacking even basic scientific knowledge, and incapable of extrapolation and planning. To put it bluntly I would guess that at least half of all MPs are essentially useless.
And 90% of the other half are positively dangerous.
I'm not even joking, we live in an ever increasingly technological and scientifically driven world, and the people who legislate for and govern us are in many cases completely out of their depth.
At leasr not doing their usual nonsense of announcing Wednesday for implementation the next Monday, so people go on yet another final weekend on the lash.
That's exactly what is happening in West Yorkshire this weekend.
The expenses scandal revealed the mild-crookedness of many MPs, COVID-19 has revealed a large number of the members of parliament to be innumerate, lacking even basic scientific knowledge, and incapable of extrapolation and planning. To put it bluntly I would guess that at least half of all MPs are essentially useless.
And 90% of the other half are positively dangerous.
I'm not even joking, we live in an ever increasingly technological and scientifically driven world, and the people who legislate for and govern us are in many cases completely out of their depth.
Dare I say it: too many Oxbridge humanities graduates.
The expenses scandal revealed the mild-crookedness of many MPs, COVID-19 has revealed a large number of the members of parliament to be innumerate, lacking even basic scientific knowledge, and incapable of extrapolation and planning. To put it bluntly I would guess that at least half of all MPs are essentially useless.
And 90% of the other half are positively dangerous.
I'm not even joking, we live in an ever increasingly technological and scientifically driven world, and the people who legislate for and govern us are in many cases completely out of their depth.
Dare I say it: too many Oxbridge humanities graduates.
Hang on, we were desperate for more PPE earlier in the year?
When they say closing “everything”, do they literally mean that: offices, businesses, electricians, plumbers, builders etc ie all work?
Or do they mean places where people congregate ie hospitality, shops etc?
Because the former is something akin to what we had in March. And without a furlough scheme of some kind, the economic pain would be pretty catastrophic.
If universities are one source of the spread since September why aren’t they being closed? Either we shut down those activities which have the greatest risk or we don’t, in which case shutting other things which are not so high risk is a bit pointless.
The expenses scandal revealed the mild-crookedness of many MPs, COVID-19 has revealed a large number of the members of parliament to be innumerate, lacking even basic scientific knowledge, and incapable of extrapolation and planning. To put it bluntly I would guess that at least half of all MPs are essentially useless.
And 90% of the other half are positively dangerous.
I'm not even joking, we live in an ever increasingly technological and scientifically driven world, and the people who legislate for and govern us are in many cases completely out of their depth.
Dare I say it: too many Oxbridge humanities graduates.
Not just MPs, the media and many parts of the wider state have been equally useless in ability to understand some fundamental basics.
I come here to get the daily figures and charts, because at least I know they will be presented well with appropriate caveats and deskewed from the headline figures that the press run with.
When they say closing “everything”, do they literally mean that: offices, businesses, electricians, plumbers, builders etc ie all work?
Or do they mean places where people congregate ie hospitality, shops etc?
Because the former is something akin to what we had in March. And without a furlough scheme of some kind, the economic pain would be pretty catastrophic.
If universities are one source of the spread since September why aren’t they being closed? Either we shut down those activities which have the greatest risk or we don’t, in which case shutting other things which are not so high risk is a bit pointless.
Universities should be online only bar a limited number of courses like medicine that are both are highly important and require practical classes.
Schools should be open but we should look at moving older kids in non exam years to as much online learning as possible.
Both can be good for us in terms of long term changes to education anyway.
When they say closing “everything”, do they literally mean that: offices, businesses, electricians, plumbers, builders etc ie all work?
Or do they mean places where people congregate ie hospitality, shops etc?
Because the former is something akin to what we had in March. And without a furlough scheme of some kind, the economic pain would be pretty catastrophic.
If universities are one source of the spread since September why aren’t they being closed? Either we shut down those activities which have the greatest risk or we don’t, in which case shutting other things which are not so high risk is a bit pointless.
New infections around universities are now much than at the start of October ** so I can't see them shutting.
** Which is why we should be studying what the infection patterns were in universities.
What sort of person uses a pandemic crisis as an excuse to start looting someone's business?
Same folks that would use a pandemic to hand out shitloads of money to their mates for contracts they can't fulfil. Only difference is the one lot wear trainers and the other lot wear ties.
We often get told through leaks that Cabinet members and so on don't get told things like this. Can that really be so? It just seems like bloody stupid party and governmental management to act like that.
Well this site, vanilla version, was dog shit loading on my phone and golden on my iPad, now it’s the complete opposite. Works fine on the work laptop though, on the rare occasion I deign to visit during working hours...
When they say closing “everything”, do they literally mean that: offices, businesses, electricians, plumbers, builders etc ie all work?
Or do they mean places where people congregate ie hospitality, shops etc?
Because the former is something akin to what we had in March. And without a furlough scheme of some kind, the economic pain would be pretty catastrophic.
If universities are one source of the spread since September why aren’t they being closed? Either we shut down those activities which have the greatest risk or we don’t, in which case shutting other things which are not so high risk is a bit pointless.
Universities should be online only bar a limited number of courses like medicine that are both are highly important and require practical classes.
Schools should be open but we should look at moving older kids in non exam years to as much online learning as possible.
Both can be good for us in terms of long term changes to education anyway.
Not all universities have been big plague hot spots. Some seem to be doing excellent jobs at managing the risks.
When they say closing “everything”, do they literally mean that: offices, businesses, electricians, plumbers, builders etc ie all work?
Or do they mean places where people congregate ie hospitality, shops etc?
Because the former is something akin to what we had in March. And without a furlough scheme of some kind, the economic pain would be pretty catastrophic.
If universities are one source of the spread since September why aren’t they being closed? Either we shut down those activities which have the greatest risk or we don’t, in which case shutting other things which are not so high risk is a bit pointless.
Universities should be online only bar a limited number of courses like medicine that are both are highly important and require practical classes.
Schools should be open but we should look at moving older kids in non exam years to as much online learning as possible.
Both can be good for us in terms of long term changes to education anyway.
Is the issue for universities actually "face to face" vs online learning, or is it huge numbers of people living in close proximity in cramped university accommodation?
Going online made sense at the start of term made sense if it meant that students would stay at home and not move into university accommodation. Doing the same now, might not make much sense. Indeed could even be counterproductive if it results in all the students decamping back to their home towns.
At leasr not doing their usual nonsense of announcing Wednesday for implementation the next Monday, so people go on yet another final weekend on the lash.
That's exactly what is happening in West Yorkshire this weekend.
Given that the risks to the young are near zero its easy to understand them doing so.
When they say closing “everything”, do they literally mean that: offices, businesses, electricians, plumbers, builders etc ie all work?
Or do they mean places where people congregate ie hospitality, shops etc?
Because the former is something akin to what we had in March. And without a furlough scheme of some kind, the economic pain would be pretty catastrophic.
If universities are one source of the spread since September why aren’t they being closed? Either we shut down those activities which have the greatest risk or we don’t, in which case shutting other things which are not so high risk is a bit pointless.
How many national lockdowns are we supposed to have before we realise they don't actually solve the problem?
When they say closing “everything”, do they literally mean that: offices, businesses, electricians, plumbers, builders etc ie all work?
Or do they mean places where people congregate ie hospitality, shops etc?
Because the former is something akin to what we had in March. And without a furlough scheme of some kind, the economic pain would be pretty catastrophic.
If universities are one source of the spread since September why aren’t they being closed? Either we shut down those activities which have the greatest risk or we don’t, in which case shutting other things which are not so high risk is a bit pointless.
Universities should be online only bar a limited number of courses like medicine that are both are highly important and require practical classes.
Schools should be open but we should look at moving older kids in non exam years to as much online learning as possible.
Both can be good for us in terms of long term changes to education anyway.
We often get told through leaks that Cabinet members and so on don't get told things like this. Can that really be so? It just seems like bloody stupid party and governmental management to act like that.
The Cabinet is just an inconvenience to PM Cummings though.
When they say closing “everything”, do they literally mean that: offices, businesses, electricians, plumbers, builders etc ie all work?
Or do they mean places where people congregate ie hospitality, shops etc?
Because the former is something akin to what we had in March. And without a furlough scheme of some kind, the economic pain would be pretty catastrophic.
If universities are one source of the spread since September why aren’t they being closed? Either we shut down those activities which have the greatest risk or we don’t, in which case shutting other things which are not so high risk is a bit pointless.
Universities should be online only bar a limited number of courses like medicine that are both are highly important and require practical classes.
Schools should be open but we should look at moving older kids in non exam years to as much online learning as possible.
Both can be good for us in terms of long term changes to education anyway.
Not all universities have been big plague hot spots. Some seem to be doing excellent jobs at managing the risks.
Some countries avoided the "plague" in the spring but have been hit very hard this time around. How do we know the universities that were fine this October wont have the most problems in January?
The expenses scandal revealed the mild-crookedness of many MPs, COVID-19 has revealed a large number of the members of parliament to be innumerate, lacking even basic scientific knowledge, and incapable of extrapolation and planning. To put it bluntly I would guess that at least half of all MPs are essentially useless.
And 90% of the other half are positively dangerous.
I'm not even joking, we live in an ever increasingly technological and scientifically driven world, and the people who legislate for and govern us are in many cases completely out of their depth.
Dare I say it: too many Oxbridge humanities graduates.
Too many Oxford graduates full stop.
Too many people who think alike, too many people driven by doctrine, and too many people unwilling to question their own side. Now I'm not saying a parliament full of free-thinkers would work — cat herding comes to mind — but listening to MPs endlessly trotting out the tripe that their party has decided is today's "thought" is wearying.
Ok, because of the kerfuffle I ran the cartoon past a professional cartoonist, who incidentally hadn't seen it before and wasn't aware of the AS concerns.
We concluded it's a good cartoon cartoon idea, but the execution is poor (no pun intended). The main trouble is that Starmer is unrecognisable. He looks more like Cameron! What's more, he's been made to look effete. The reason for this is unclear, and doesn't seem to serve any comedic or political purpose. (Corbyn is also a poor likeness but that matters less.)
This is a shame because the idea of Starmer decapitating metaphorically his adversary is a strong one, especially as real beheadings are very much in the news.
Is it anti-semitic? Not in a million years. There's no Jewish trope here, and no caricature that could be interpreted as such.
Like Foxy says, "The implication that the Jews wanted an innocent man's head on a plate."
So that's NOT anti-semitic? Sorry, but think you are wrong here. Trouble is not crap drawing but rather loaded, coded message.
Also, this cartoonist was "unaware of the anti-Semitic issue" and this is when he, or she, is judging a cartoon, which is all about a politician cashiered for anti-Semitism?
That's utterly ridiculous. Anti-Semitism is THE central issue here, it is the reason for the cartoon's existence. So if you are unaware of that you can't have any opinion on the image, as you are clueless of the vital context.
Aren't we praising the French for publishing religiously offensive cartoons?
No. We’re praising them for not censoring them.
+1
This is a crucially important point.
No-one on here (I hope) would suggest that Der Stürmer's portrayal of Jews in Germany was acceptable, and no-one should praise it. (Indeed, one would hope they would criticise it.)
But free speech includes free speech that is grossly offensive. That's them apples.
Comments
Thought not.
https://twitter.com/RosamundUrwin/status/1322308799089287168
https://environment.princeton.edu/news/largest-covid-19-contact-tracing-study-to-date-finds-children-key-to-spread-evidence-of-superspreaders/
Oh.
Thoughts and prayers.
Resignation watch?
That sort of a vibe?
I bet you they don't ban foreign holidays for Christmas either.
We’re praising them for not censoring them.
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1322310563066793985?s=20
https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1322237884569714688?s=21
If only @Philip_Thompson's 'Captain Hindsight' had called for one two weeks ago, eh?
Or do they mean places where people congregate ie hospitality, shops etc?
Because the former is something akin to what we had in March. And without a furlough scheme of some kind, the economic pain would be pretty catastrophic.
If universities are one source of the spread since September why aren’t they being closed? Either we shut down those activities which have the greatest risk or we don’t, in which case shutting other things which are not so high risk is a bit pointless.
https://twitter.com/CataloniaHelp2/status/1322292134456758272?s=20
https://twitter.com/EmilioMorenatti/status/1322267586327924736?s=20
https://twitter.com/AlvaroLaforet/status/1322305577175994370?s=20
All the Christmas eating and drinking will add to the covid death totals.
One thing I certainly criticise the government for is not emphasising the extra risks obesity brings re covid.
People can't do anything about the age or underlying health but they can do something about how much they weigh and how much exercise they take.
Schools should be open but we should look at moving older kids in non exam years to as much online learning as possible.
Both can be good for us in terms of long term changes to education anyway.
** Which is why we should be studying what the infection patterns were in universities.
Going online made sense at the start of term made sense if it meant that students would stay at home and not move into university accommodation. Doing the same now, might not make much sense. Indeed could even be counterproductive if it results in all the students decamping back to their home towns.
Plus it's a really nice use of time ad way to mark the weekends from the weekdays.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31201-0/fulltext
This is a crucially important point.
No-one on here (I hope) would suggest that Der Stürmer's portrayal of Jews in Germany was acceptable, and no-one should praise it. (Indeed, one would hope they would criticise it.)
But free speech includes free speech that is grossly offensive. That's them apples.