I missed the 800/1, but took some of the 400 when the market reopened
My £2 at 800/1 is begining to look in very poor taste.
I had £3 at 410 before realising I`d made a mistake (I think). Pelosi could be Next President but the market rules say: "next President of the United States of America as a result of the 2020 presidential election". Pelosi will not be contesting the election will she - so our bets cannot win. I don`t think.
The only way she'd have won is if the primaries hadn't finished, she'd become incumbent, then won the primaries as incumbent.
Too late now. If its a Democrat it'd be Biden. Only way I could see it being Pelosi now is some sort of mass-catastrophe that takes out all of Trump, Pence, Biden and Harris. Pelosi becomes President, the Democrat ticket is void and she'd surely become the Democrats continuity candidate to get America through. Not going to happen.
Evangelicals in the US must be having mixed feelings tonight, ostensibly praying for Trump but also secretly knowing that in the event of his death Pence would take over and they would have one of their own in the White House
But would non evangelicals who like Trump be as willing to come out for the establishment Pence?
I think he would get a pass because he would be seen as having being loyal to Trump and, also, because of the fears about what a Democrat Presidency would mean in the culture wars.
Personally, I would be less inclined to vote for Pence than Trump. You are far more likely to get a Handmaiden's Tale situation with Pence than you would have ever have gotten with Trump.
It's not so much that I don't think he would get a pass, I just wondered about his ability to fire up the passions of the non-evangelicals.
I think it would be the flip side of what is happening with the Democrats and Biden - they are not particularly enthused about Joe but, because they dislike Trump so much, anyone will do.
There are many people who think that, if the Democrats get in, their whole way of life and values will be swept away. They will vote for anyone to stop that.
I’ve been down the boozer, masks, table service, last orders called at 9.30. Crazy bonk.
Mental cruelty.
Our thoughts are with you big man.
Cheers fella, appreciate the concern whether tongue in cheek or not. I’ll be ok.
Everything is coated with a strange veneer of unreality. Every conversation seems to wend its way back to Coronavirus. The restrictions, whilst grudgingly accepted, just emphasise, yet again as if it needed emphasising, how life has changed for us all so dramatically in a few short months.
I love this site for its debate, for the different viewpoints whether I agree with them or not. We all have our own approaches and opinions on what we’re experiencing. But one thing we can agree on is just how strange, disorientating, discombobulating these days are.
That not what CNN are saying. They say the press pack are waiting on the South Lawn and waiting to see if they will be able to ask questions.
I'm assuming the WH Is not stupid in knowing that, if Marine One is on the lawn, it's going to be in full sight of the press pack. So I am kind of wondering whether he is going to come out walking and actually say something.
My guess is that he'll walk to Marine One, but not say anything.
Evangelicals in the US must be having mixed feelings tonight, ostensibly praying for Trump but also secretly knowing that in the event of his death Pence would take over and they would have one of their own in the White House
But would non evangelicals who like Trump be as willing to come out for the establishment Pence?
I think he would get a pass because he would be seen as having being loyal to Trump and, also, because of the fears about what a Democrat Presidency would mean in the culture wars.
Personally, I would be less inclined to vote for Pence than Trump. You are far more likely to get a Handmaiden's Tale situation with Pence than you would have ever have gotten with Trump.
It's not so much that I don't think he would get a pass, I just wondered about his ability to fire up the passions of the non-evangelicals.
I think it would be the flip side of what is happening with the Democrats and Biden - they are not particularly enthused about Joe but, because they dislike Trump so much, anyone will do.
There are many people who think that, if the Democrats get in, their whole way of life and values will be swept away. They will vote for anyone to stop that.
So hang on. You suggest that people not being enthused by Biden but voting for him because they hate Trump is a bad thing, but then you go onto state that people not being enthused by Trump but voting for him because they hate the Democrats is a good thing.
That not what CNN are saying. They say the press pack are waiting on the South Lawn and waiting to see if they will be able to ask questions.
I'm assuming the WH Is not stupid in knowing that, if Marine One is on the lawn, it's going to be in full sight of the press pack. So I am kind of wondering whether he is going to come out walking and actually say something.
My guess is that he'll walk to Marine One, but not say anything.
Does this suggest that they were unsure if he *could* walk unaided to the chopper?
I don't think so. but I will say this. Looking at the trees etc round that landing spot, it didn't look like a well set out landing spot. Apparently it is the normal LZ so I'm guessing the camera angles were deceptive.
Does this suggest that they were unsure if he *could* walk unaided to the chopper?
Possibly. But think about this. Let's say there was a 1% chance that he would wobble or fall over (a la Hillary getting in the car that time after a speech). It would cause absolute pandemonium. Far better to play it safe.
Does this suggest that they were unsure if he *could* walk unaided to the chopper?
I don't think so. but I will say this. Looking at the trees etc round that landing spot, it didn't look like a well set out landing spot. Apparently it is the normal LZ so I'm guessing the camera angles were deceptive.
Yeah - it looked like it had crashed into the trees!
Whatever happens this is beginning to look like a superspreader event at the heart of the most powerful organisation in the world. Maybe folk should wash their hands, keep their distance and wear a mask? Just a thought.
Evangelicals in the US must be having mixed feelings tonight, ostensibly praying for Trump but also secretly knowing that in the event of his death Pence would take over and they would have one of their own in the White House
But would non evangelicals who like Trump be as willing to come out for the establishment Pence?
I think he would get a pass because he would be seen as having being loyal to Trump and, also, because of the fears about what a Democrat Presidency would mean in the culture wars.
Personally, I would be less inclined to vote for Pence than Trump. You are far more likely to get a Handmaiden's Tale situation with Pence than you would have ever have gotten with Trump.
It's not so much that I don't think he would get a pass, I just wondered about his ability to fire up the passions of the non-evangelicals.
I think it would be the flip side of what is happening with the Democrats and Biden - they are not particularly enthused about Joe but, because they dislike Trump so much, anyone will do.
There are many people who think that, if the Democrats get in, their whole way of life and values will be swept away. They will vote for anyone to stop that.
So hang on. You suggest that people not being enthused by Biden but voting for him because they hate Trump is a bad thing, but then you go onto state that people not being enthused by Trump but voting for him because they hate the Democrats is a good thing.
What?
Where the Hell did I say that? I said that many of the Trump supporters would vote for Pence because their primary motivation is fear of what the Democrats to do to their way of life. I didn't say one was good and one was bad, I was just saying that it is the same sort of motivation that drives many Democrats who would normally see Biden as a sellout to vote for him, namely to get rid of Trump.
Evangelicals in the US must be having mixed feelings tonight, ostensibly praying for Trump but also secretly knowing that in the event of his death Pence would take over and they would have one of their own in the White House
But would non evangelicals who like Trump be as willing to come out for the establishment Pence?
I think he would get a pass because he would be seen as having being loyal to Trump and, also, because of the fears about what a Democrat Presidency would mean in the culture wars.
Personally, I would be less inclined to vote for Pence than Trump. You are far more likely to get a Handmaiden's Tale situation with Pence than you would have ever have gotten with Trump.
It's not so much that I don't think he would get a pass, I just wondered about his ability to fire up the passions of the non-evangelicals.
I think it would be the flip side of what is happening with the Democrats and Biden - they are not particularly enthused about Joe but, because they dislike Trump so much, anyone will do.
There are many people who think that, if the Democrats get in, their whole way of life and values will be swept away. They will vote for anyone to stop that.
So hang on. You suggest that people not being enthused by Biden but voting for him because they hate Trump is a bad thing, but then you go onto state that people not being enthused by Trump but voting for him because they hate the Democrats is a good thing.
What?
Where the Hell did I say that? I said that many of the Trump supporters would vote for Pence because their primary motivation is fear of what the Democrats to do to their way of life. I didn't say one was good and one was bad, I was just saying that it is the same sort of motivation that drives many Democrats who would normally see Biden as a sellout to vote for him, namely to get rid of Trump.
I think Trump is political goner, and possibly a mortal goner (RIP - I hope I am wrong, he may be a bastard but every man's death diminishes me)
WTF does that mean? Biden must also be at severe risk.
2020 is just superb entertainment, however insane
I hope Biden is ok but I fear he actually might be at significant risk. He also does not look like the most robust man to me (same with Trump).
Kudos to those who took the Pence bet. Even if it does not come off, it will have been proven to have been a smart move.
Re Trump, whatever you think of the man, no one should wish for someone else's death.
Not even Adolf Hitler in 1939 and for a few years beond that?
Ok, yes, but for f*cks sake, does everything have to be reduced to Hitler (or Pol Pot)?
If you make statements which are palpably wrong you must expect people to select the clearest counterexample to prove you wrong. You: the vole is the largest living land mammal. Someone else: um - elephants? You: does it have to be all about elephants?
Evangelicals in the US must be having mixed feelings tonight, ostensibly praying for Trump but also secretly knowing that in the event of his death Pence would take over and they would have one of their own in the White House
But would non evangelicals who like Trump be as willing to come out for the establishment Pence?
I think he would get a pass because he would be seen as having being loyal to Trump and, also, because of the fears about what a Democrat Presidency would mean in the culture wars.
Personally, I would be less inclined to vote for Pence than Trump. You are far more likely to get a Handmaiden's Tale situation with Pence than you would have ever have gotten with Trump.
It's not so much that I don't think he would get a pass, I just wondered about his ability to fire up the passions of the non-evangelicals.
I think it would be the flip side of what is happening with the Democrats and Biden - they are not particularly enthused about Joe but, because they dislike Trump so much, anyone will do.
There are many people who think that, if the Democrats get in, their whole way of life and values will be swept away. They will vote for anyone to stop that.
So hang on. You suggest that people not being enthused by Biden but voting for him because they hate Trump is a bad thing, but then you go onto state that people not being enthused by Trump but voting for him because they hate the Democrats is a good thing.
What?
Where the Hell did I say that? I said that many of the Trump supporters would vote for Pence because their primary motivation is fear of what the Democrats to do to their way of life. I didn't say one was good and one was bad, I was just saying that it is the same sort of motivation that drives many Democrats who would normally see Biden as a sellout to vote for him, namely to get rid of Trump.
Jesus wept.
Thanks for explaining. No need for the hysterics.
Don't try and present yourself as the reasonable one @Gallowgate and making out I have overreacted. There was no way what I said could have been interpreted as saying one was good and one was bad unless you deliberately sort to twist it that way.
I don't wish Trump ill, and anybody wanting him to die is an idiot. However, over 213,000 have died of Covid in the USA, with one of the highest death rates per million in the world. Pretty poor in the most advanced, richest major country in the world. I can't help think that Trump's awful performance throughout the crisis has contributed to that death toll. Maybe 50,000 (guesstimate) would not have lost their lives if Trump had taken it seriously and enacted good policies from the start?
As I said, I wish him no harm. But he does bear some responsibility for others' misfortune.
Note from the recent early stage trial of the Regeneron MAbs:
https://investor.regeneron.com/static-files/a596a85e-e72d-4529-8eb5-d52d87a99070 No safety concerns have been noted with treatment of COVID 19 in hospitalized and ambulatory patients and prophylaxis treatment with SC formulation in both household exposed subjects and healthy volunteers. Few patients experienced IRRs or ISR events; mainly mild to moderate in intensity....
I think Trump is political goner, and possibly a mortal goner (RIP - I hope I am wrong, he may be a bastard but every man's death diminishes me)
WTF does that mean? Biden must also be at severe risk.
2020 is just superb entertainment, however insane
I hope Biden is ok but I fear he actually might be at significant risk. He also does not look like the most robust man to me (same with Trump).
Kudos to those who took the Pence bet. Even if it does not come off, it will have been proven to have been a smart move.
Re Trump, whatever you think of the man, no one should wish for someone else's death.
Not Pol Pot's or Mussolini's?
No one should express the wish for someone else's death. However it is reasonable to point out that there is a major advantage if Trump loses this election by being dead or seriously incapacitated rather than just being outvoted, which is the potential buggering about between November and January it saves the USA from (which would have the potential to cost more than just the one life).
Do you really think Trump is the equivalent of Pol Pot? Really?
I can (just about) see why people might see him as a Mussolini.
Do you think if people came on here talking about Jeremy Corbyn being the reincarnation of Stalin, that would be acceptable?
I would say that if you are looking for a comparison for Trump - Peron, maybe?
Yes, probably closer actually. I wouldn't but I can see why one would...
I don't wish Trump ill, and anybody wanting him to die is an idiot. However, over 213,000 have died of Covid in the USA, with one of the highest death rates per million in the world. Pretty poor in the most advanced, richest major country in the world. I can't help think that Trump's awful performance throughout the crisis has contributed to that death toll. Maybe 50,000 (guesstimate) would not have lost their lives if Trump had taken it seriously and enacted good policies from the start?
As I said, I wish him no harm. But he does bear some responsibility for others' misfortune.
Well, I think @Ishmael_Z does want him dead, so we have at least one on this site....
I missed the 800/1, but took some of the 400 when the market reopened
My £2 at 800/1 is begining to look in very poor taste.
No-one should bet on Pelosi (not on Betfair anyway). That market is on the 2020 election, not 'next president'. There is no way on God's earth that Pelosi wins the 2020 election. Even if Trump, Pence and Biden were ruled out (which is of itself bloody unlikely), Kamela Harris (or some to-be-identified Republican) is still ahead of her in the queue.
In the highly unlikely even that Pelosi becomes president, her term ends in January next year.
Evangelicals in the US must be having mixed feelings tonight, ostensibly praying for Trump but also secretly knowing that in the event of his death Pence would take over and they would have one of their own in the White House
But would non evangelicals who like Trump be as willing to come out for the establishment Pence?
I think he would get a pass because he would be seen as having being loyal to Trump and, also, because of the fears about what a Democrat Presidency would mean in the culture wars.
Personally, I would be less inclined to vote for Pence than Trump. You are far more likely to get a Handmaiden's Tale situation with Pence than you would have ever have gotten with Trump.
It's not so much that I don't think he would get a pass, I just wondered about his ability to fire up the passions of the non-evangelicals.
I think it would be the flip side of what is happening with the Democrats and Biden - they are not particularly enthused about Joe but, because they dislike Trump so much, anyone will do.
There are many people who think that, if the Democrats get in, their whole way of life and values will be swept away. They will vote for anyone to stop that.
So hang on. You suggest that people not being enthused by Biden but voting for him because they hate Trump is a bad thing, but then you go onto state that people not being enthused by Trump but voting for him because they hate the Democrats is a good thing.
What?
Where the Hell did I say that? I said that many of the Trump supporters would vote for Pence because their primary motivation is fear of what the Democrats to do to their way of life. I didn't say one was good and one was bad, I was just saying that it is the same sort of motivation that drives many Democrats who would normally see Biden as a sellout to vote for him, namely to get rid of Trump.
Jesus wept.
Thanks for explaining. No need for the hysterics.
Don't try and present yourself as the reasonable one @Gallowgate and making out I have overreacted. There was no way what I said could have been interpreted as saying one was good and one was bad unless you deliberately sort to twist it that way.
OK so not so monumental a night, got a bit carried away.
Good, hope he gets a speedy recovery so he can get the electoral hammering he so richly deserves next month.
Get will quickly.
Jolly sporting, but much better if he doesn't given his probable intentions if he does lose.
stay classy
It's just arithmetic, surely? If there's a reasonable chance that his plans are likely to cause civil unrest between November - January in which more than one person will die, the best outcome is that he pops his clogs now. Harsh, but there it is.
The other Mr Rook, who is asthmatic and therefore an authority on breathlessness, thinks that Trump was struggling a little during that video he's just put out.
The other Mr Rook, who is asthmatic and therefore an authority on breathlessness, thinks that Trump was struggling a little during that video he's just put out.
I don't wish Trump ill, and anybody wanting him to die is an idiot. However, over 213,000 have died of Covid in the USA, with one of the highest death rates per million in the world. Pretty poor in the most advanced, richest major country in the world. I can't help think that Trump's awful performance throughout the crisis has contributed to that death toll. Maybe 50,000 (guesstimate) would not have lost their lives if Trump had taken it seriously and enacted good policies from the start?
As I said, I wish him no harm. But he does bear some responsibility for others' misfortune.
Not least for continuing to wander around meeting people when he knew he was exposed to someone who was infected. Selfish idiot.
I missed the 800/1, but took some of the 400 when the market reopened
My £2 at 800/1 is begining to look in very poor taste.
No-one should bet on Pelosi (not on Betfair anyway). That market is on the 2020 election, not 'next president'. There is no way on God's earth that Pelosi wins the 2020 election. Even if Trump, Pence and Biden were ruled out (which is of itself bloody unlikely), Kamela Harris (or some to-be-identified Republican) is still ahead of her in the queue.
In the highly unlikely even that Pelosi becomes president, her term ends in January next year.
Bloody party-pooper! Yes, I just read the wording and I don't see how a bet on Pelosi (or Pence, who I am also green on) can possibly come in. Shame. I was hoping to lay it off.
You're not interested in taking it off my hands, are you? Tenner to you, my boy.
I don't wish Trump ill, and anybody wanting him to die is an idiot. However, over 213,000 have died of Covid in the USA, with one of the highest death rates per million in the world. Pretty poor in the most advanced, richest major country in the world. I can't help think that Trump's awful performance throughout the crisis has contributed to that death toll. Maybe 50,000 (guesstimate) would not have lost their lives if Trump had taken it seriously and enacted good policies from the start?
As I said, I wish him no harm. But he does bear some responsibility for others' misfortune.
Well the cease fire only lasted about 2hrs on CNN, it is now why didn't he talk to the press, why aren't they telling us absolutely everything about his medical situation, the American public deserve better, yet another example of this White House who don't tell the truth, etc etc etc.
I don't wish Trump ill, and anybody wanting him to die is an idiot. However, over 213,000 have died of Covid in the USA, with one of the highest death rates per million in the world. Pretty poor in the most advanced, richest major country in the world. I can't help think that Trump's awful performance throughout the crisis has contributed to that death toll. Maybe 50,000 (guesstimate) would not have lost their lives if Trump had taken it seriously and enacted good policies from the start?
As I said, I wish him no harm. But he does bear some responsibility for others' misfortune.
Well, I think @Ishmael_Z does want him dead, so we have at least one on this site....
Anything that keeps Trump fit enough to face the IRS in court next year is fine by me.
Trump did look ill in the video, reminiscent of Johnson prior to his hospitalisation.
If you want to get a gauge about how things develop over next 72 its whether Mike Pence stays in around his official residence the whole time. If there less concern he will be allowed on tour.
I missed the 800/1, but took some of the 400 when the market reopened
My £2 at 800/1 is begining to look in very poor taste.
No-one should bet on Pelosi (not on Betfair anyway). That market is on the 2020 election, not 'next president'. There is no way on God's earth that Pelosi wins the 2020 election. Even if Trump, Pence and Biden were ruled out (which is of itself bloody unlikely), Kamela Harris (or some to-be-identified Republican) is still ahead of her in the queue.
In the highly unlikely even that Pelosi becomes president, her term ends in January next year.
Bloody party-pooper! Yes, I just read the wording and I don't see how a bet on Pelosi (or Pence, who I am also green on) can possibly come in. Shame. I was hoping to lay it off.
You're not interested in taking it off my hands, are you? Tenner to you, my boy.
Pence could come in if Trump cannot stand for whatever reason and the RNC have to replace him. Pence is the logical option (even then there are complications - what is the 'projected ECV' in such circumstances, when Trump's name is on the ballots, even if no longer the formal candidate - but not insurmountable).
The other Mr Rook, who is asthmatic and therefore an authority on breathlessness, thinks that Trump was struggling a little during that video he's just put out.
Seen the video again, he does look far, far less ebullient than usual, to the point of looking like he was fronting up some difficulties.
I missed the 800/1, but took some of the 400 when the market reopened
My £2 at 800/1 is begining to look in very poor taste.
No-one should bet on Pelosi (not on Betfair anyway). That market is on the 2020 election, not 'next president'. There is no way on God's earth that Pelosi wins the 2020 election. Even if Trump, Pence and Biden were ruled out (which is of itself bloody unlikely), Kamela Harris (or some to-be-identified Republican) is still ahead of her in the queue.
In the highly unlikely even that Pelosi becomes president, her term ends in January next year.
If Trump, Pence, Biden and Harris were somehow taken out then she would be President and in a void of alternative would likely be accepted as a continuity candidate by the Democrats.
Would require all 4 taken out pretty much simultaneously though.
I missed the 800/1, but took some of the 400 when the market reopened
My £2 at 800/1 is begining to look in very poor taste.
No-one should bet on Pelosi (not on Betfair anyway). That market is on the 2020 election, not 'next president'. There is no way on God's earth that Pelosi wins the 2020 election. Even if Trump, Pence and Biden were ruled out (which is of itself bloody unlikely), Kamela Harris (or some to-be-identified Republican) is still ahead of her in the queue.
In the highly unlikely even that Pelosi becomes president, her term ends in January next year.
If Trump, Pence, Biden and Harris were somehow taken out then she would be President and in a void of alternative would likely be accepted as a continuity candidate by the Democrats.
Would require all 4 taken out pretty much simultaneously though.
I missed the 800/1, but took some of the 400 when the market reopened
My £2 at 800/1 is begining to look in very poor taste.
No-one should bet on Pelosi (not on Betfair anyway). That market is on the 2020 election, not 'next president'. There is no way on God's earth that Pelosi wins the 2020 election. Even if Trump, Pence and Biden were ruled out (which is of itself bloody unlikely), Kamela Harris (or some to-be-identified Republican) is still ahead of her in the queue.
In the highly unlikely even that Pelosi becomes president, her term ends in January next year.
If Trump, Pence, Biden and Harris were somehow taken out then she would be President and in a void of alternative would likely be accepted as a continuity candidate by the Democrats.
Would require all 4 taken out pretty much simultaneously though.
It would also potentially require Congress not to agree a successor VP.
Lots of rancour on twitter about Biden pulling negative ads, but I think it's the right move whilst Trump is in hospital. One of Biden's biggest strengths is his fundamental decency. His biggest weakness is probably that he's seen as simply being 'Not Trump'. Time to push the positive message from his own campaign and look like the president elect, the Lincoln project will still run attack ads anyway.
Lots of rancour on twitter about Biden pulling negative ads, but I think it's the right move whilst Trump is in hospital. One of Biden's biggest strengths is his fundamental decency. His biggest weakness is probably that he's seen as simply being 'Not Trump'. Time to push the positive message from his own campaign and look like the president elect, the Lincoln project will still run attack ads anyway.
The Trump campaign isn’t doing the same and are continuing with the attack ads . If Trump makes a full recovery I expect him to milk it , saying he’s found redemption give loads of interviews and play the martyr .
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Too late now. If its a Democrat it'd be Biden. Only way I could see it being Pelosi now is some sort of mass-catastrophe that takes out all of Trump, Pence, Biden and Harris. Pelosi becomes President, the Democrat ticket is void and she'd surely become the Democrats continuity candidate to get America through. Not going to happen.
There are many people who think that, if the Democrats get in, their whole way of life and values will be swept away. They will vote for anyone to stop that.
Everything is coated with a strange veneer of unreality. Every conversation seems to wend its way back to Coronavirus. The restrictions, whilst grudgingly accepted, just emphasise, yet again as if it needed emphasising, how life has changed for us all so dramatically in a few short months.
I love this site for its debate, for the different viewpoints whether I agree with them or not. We all have our own approaches and opinions on what we’re experiencing. But one thing we can agree on is just how strange, disorientating, discombobulating these days are.
What?
Good, hope he gets a speedy recovery so he can get the electoral hammering he so richly deserves next month.
Get will quickly.
Seriously!?!
Maybe folk should wash their hands, keep their distance and wear a mask?
Just a thought.
Jesus wept.
As I said, I wish him no harm. But he does bear some responsibility for others' misfortune.
https://investor.regeneron.com/static-files/a596a85e-e72d-4529-8eb5-d52d87a99070
No safety concerns have been noted with treatment of COVID 19 in hospitalized and ambulatory patients and prophylaxis treatment with SC formulation in both household exposed subjects and healthy volunteers.
Few patients experienced IRRs or ISR events; mainly mild to moderate in intensity....
https://twitter.com/marcambinder/status/1312156682311483392
In the highly unlikely even that Pelosi becomes president, her term ends in January next year.
You're not interested in taking it off my hands, are you? Tenner to you, my boy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRhEbxh9vdI
Trump did look ill in the video, reminiscent of Johnson prior to his hospitalisation.
Ted Cruz liar.
Biden mentally unsound and on drugs.
The projection is strong.
If Pence stays put, then there is more worry.
Tories lying again.
Would require all 4 taken out pretty much simultaneously though.
One of Biden's biggest strengths is his fundamental decency. His biggest weakness is probably that he's seen as simply being 'Not Trump'. Time to push the positive message from his own campaign and look like the president elect, the Lincoln project will still run attack ads anyway.
Nonetheless, head and shoulders above any presentation by POTUS.
https://twitter.com/maxwelltani/status/1312150374892019715?s=20
Hope nobody sends him a blow up shark
A little ironic in the light of his total disregard for an excess of 200,000 dead in the USA.