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  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,720
      

    RobD said:

    Does anyone have any figures on how many tests the French are doing daily?

    For us to be doing 185,000 tests - even accounting for some people being tested more than once in the same day - is quite a remarkable amount for Test & Trace. I wonder how that compares?

    People tested per week -

    image
    So about a quarter of the UK value?
    That's the UK - people tested per week
    for a comparison with France -

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-tests-per-thousand-people-smoothed-7-day?tab=chart&country=FRA~GBR

    but that is international data - so who knows what metrics are really being compared.
    Wow so we're consistently testing double the number of people per capita than the French are? Despite them having a higher case incidence rate at the minute?

    That's quite remarkable. Goes to support my theory than NHS Test & Trace is a big reason why the UK isn't seeing a second surge yet. Thanks to Dido Harding, Hancock and everyone else working with it.
    Touch wood.

  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,248
    Scott_xP said:
    So 65k paid per annum for approx 100 days per year.

    £650 a day - affected by additional benefits etc.

    Doesn't seem excessive for that role.
  • Foxy said:

    dr_spyn said:

    Good weekend to bury bad news. Grayling off.

    https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1299416922044411905

    New worlds to conquer, no doubt.
    Maybe he noticed the word 'Intelligence' in the title and decided it wasn't the committee for him.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Scott_xP said:
    The gist: all schools to open as planned, even in current lockdown areas. Rotas to be used to reduce numbers in secondary schools if things in certain localities get worse. School closures and remote learning only to be implemented as a last resort.

    These policies to remain in force until Nicola Sturgeon says otherwise.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,002
    Wow.

    I didn't realise the worst Bond film of all time could have been even worse...

    https://twitter.com/robpowellnews/status/1299426969650688000
  • Lots of time for schools to prepare
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,226

    kinabalu said:

    See that despite the passionate pleading of me and others yesterday, the photo of Starmer has not been changed for a more representative hunkier one.

    And we call ourselves a community.

    It's pretty representative - it's his head in good lighting conditions. It's not as if he's just got out of bed, or he's in the middle of ravaging a bacon sandwich a la Milliband. It's not even candid; it looks like a professional headshot.
    Well I think we can do better. There's some shots of him floating around where he looks like a dog's bollocks.

    Edit -

    Sorry, THE dog's bollocks.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,720
    An article that's well worth reading by savers and investors.
    "John Kay: a lifetime in investment trusts"
    https://www.ft.com/content/802486eb-a669-4341-921f-01f6b6d03842
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411

    Lots of time for schools to prepare

    Agreed - they have known the start date of the 2020 autumn term for several months now!
  • kinabalu said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    The exact same thing was said, including by me, last year at this time. Maybe it is finally right this time, but those who said it before were absolutely wrong then so I'd be less than confident when the exact same thing is said now.
    Well Johnson capitulated last time, let's see
    The capitulation, or however one chooses to interpret it, doesn't detract from the point and in fact makes it - a lot of people said that he wanted no deal and he proved he didn't, they (including me) were just flat out wrong. No ifs, ands or buts, it was said he wanted no deal (or was prepared to risk it) and he didn't. How he chose to avoid it is another matter and certainly up for debate.

    Now, it may be that he was playing the long game and wanted no deal at this point all along, or is more prepared to risk it now he has a majority behind him, but once again we see over and over that he wants no deal, and if he does capitulate it will once again prove that the confident assertions he is going for no deal on purpose is, again, flat out wrong. Given we were wrong before, I think the assertion needs to be less confident even though it is certainly possible.
    I remember that Jeremy Corbyn supposedly was deviously working for No Deal too. All nonsense. No Deal is a Not Happening event. Always has been. If I'm wrong I'll donate £50 to Toby Young's "Free Speech Union".
    LOL! I'd love to see it happen just for that!
  • Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,370
    geoffw said:

      

    RobD said:

    Does anyone have any figures on how many tests the French are doing daily?

    For us to be doing 185,000 tests - even accounting for some people being tested more than once in the same day - is quite a remarkable amount for Test & Trace. I wonder how that compares?

    People tested per week -

    image
    So about a quarter of the UK value?
    That's the UK - people tested per week
    for a comparison with France -

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-tests-per-thousand-people-smoothed-7-day?tab=chart&country=FRA~GBR

    but that is international data - so who knows what metrics are really being compared.
    Wow so we're consistently testing double the number of people per capita than the French are? Despite them having a higher case incidence rate at the minute?

    That's quite remarkable. Goes to support my theory than NHS Test & Trace is a big reason why the UK isn't seeing a second surge yet. Thanks to Dido Harding, Hancock and everyone else working with it.
    Touch wood.

    The French numbers claim to be *people* tested rather than tests. Except they aren't quite that either.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    Ave_it said:

    Lots of time for schools to prepare

    Agreed - they have known the start date of the 2020 autumn term for several months now!
    Not as much time as the government have had to prepare for no deal
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,139
    edited August 2020
    Scott_xP said:
    Yes, Biden has a point there.

    The crowd for Trump's speech last night was bigger than the maximum gathering size currently allowed in most US states outdoors and the maximum size of 50 in DC, though it may have been allowed in Alaska, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska and Idaho, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah and Texas with approval of public officials and Florida (though gatherings of more than 50 are discouraged in the latter still).

    Even then however social distancing should be practiced

    https://www.northstarmeetingsgroup.com/News/Industry/Coronavirus-states-cities-reopening-COVID-19-new-cases

  • Sandpit said:

    Does anyone have any figures on how many tests the French are doing daily?

    For us to be doing 185,000 tests - even accounting for some people being tested more than once in the same day - is quite a remarkable amount for Test & Trace. I wonder how that compares?

    People tested per week -

    image
    Thanks though I'm guessing they're UK figures since it says Pillar One and Pillar Two?

    Does anyone have the French figures to compare?
    7379 new cases
    3.9% positivity rate
    Must be 189,205 tests, give or take a rounding error.
    Thanks. Is that a daily figure? I wonder how that compares to prior days and weekly figures?
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1299257023633162240

    Labour praising the last Labour Government, can't have that!

    Focus on structure not outcomes
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,599

    Sandpit said:

    Does anyone have any figures on how many tests the French are doing daily?

    For us to be doing 185,000 tests - even accounting for some people being tested more than once in the same day - is quite a remarkable amount for Test & Trace. I wonder how that compares?

    People tested per week -

    image
    Thanks though I'm guessing they're UK figures since it says Pillar One and Pillar Two?

    Does anyone have the French figures to compare?
    7379 new cases
    3.9% positivity rate
    Must be 189,205 tests, give or take a rounding error.
    Thanks. Is that a daily figure? I wonder how that compares to prior days and weekly figures?
    That was from the numbers in the French Tweet quoted upthread, if that account is posting the numbers every day that’s probably your best chance - unless you know enough French to google the source for the official government figures.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,139
    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    Yes, Biden has a point there.

    The crowd for Trump's speech last night was bigger than the maximum gathering size currently allowed in most USA states outdoors and the maximum size of 50 in DC, though it may have been allowed in Alaska, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska and Idaho, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah and Texas with approval of public officials and Florida (though gatherings of more than 50 are discouraged in the latter still).

    Even then however social distancing should be practiced

    https://www.northstarmeetingsgroup.com/News/Industry/Coronavirus-states-cities-reopening-COVID-19-new-cases

    Albeit BLM were also clearly in breach today too

    https://twitter.com/rachelvscott/status/1299423454559703045?s=20
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,720

    geoffw said:

      

    RobD said:

    Does anyone have any figures on how many tests the French are doing daily?

    For us to be doing 185,000 tests - even accounting for some people being tested more than once in the same day - is quite a remarkable amount for Test & Trace. I wonder how that compares?

    People tested per week -

    image
    So about a quarter of the UK value?
    That's the UK - people tested per week
    for a comparison with France -

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-tests-per-thousand-people-smoothed-7-day?tab=chart&country=FRA~GBR

    but that is international data - so who knows what metrics are really being compared.
    Wow so we're consistently testing double the number of people per capita than the French are? Despite them having a higher case incidence rate at the minute?

    That's quite remarkable. Goes to support my theory than NHS Test & Trace is a big reason why the UK isn't seeing a second surge yet. Thanks to Dido Harding, Hancock and everyone else working with it.
    Touch wood.

    The French numbers claim to be *people* tested rather than tests. Except they aren't quite that either.
    Whatever their testing they have a growing problem atm.
    From the ECDC website today


  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,370
    Charles said:

    Alistair said:

    I hold Robby Mook personally responsible for Trump.

    Absolute fucking grade a moron.

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook-pm/2019/02/26/robby-mooks-new-gig-400029

    Does this impact chance of Dems winning the house...
    Charles said:

    Alistair said:

    I hold Robby Mook personally responsible for Trump.

    Absolute fucking grade a moron.

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook-pm/2019/02/26/robby-mooks-new-gig-400029

    Does this impact chance of Dems winning the house...
    I've heard a theory - too many young, impressionable people saw the West Wing and believed that:

    1) It takes a small coffee table of people to win a Presidential Election
    2) They were the real Josh Lyman

    Bit like my theory of what happened with Capitalism in Russia.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    Yes, Biden has a point there.

    The crowd for Trump's speech last night was bigger than the maximum gathering size currently allowed in most USA states outdoors and the maximum size of 50 in DC, though it may have been allowed in Alaska, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska and Idaho, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah and Texas with approval of public officials and Florida (though gatherings of more than 50 are discouraged in the latter still).

    Even then however social distancing should be practiced

    https://www.northstarmeetingsgroup.com/News/Industry/Coronavirus-states-cities-reopening-COVID-19-new-cases

    Albeit BLM were also clearly in breach today too

    https://twitter.com/rachelvscott/status/1299423454559703045?s=20
    Isn’t the president supposed to set a good example?
  • DAlexanderDAlexander Posts: 815
    edited August 2020
    Scott_xP said:
    Agreed it's disgusting.

    Time to cut the public sector back.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,608
    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:
    So 65k paid per annum for approx 100 days per year.

    £650 a day - affected by additional benefits etc.

    Doesn't seem excessive for that role.
    How many poltical lobbyists would work for as little as £650 a day?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,002

    How many poltical lobbyists would work for as little as £650 a day?

    Not her only source of income. She could still bank her HoL expenses on the same day...
  • DAlexanderDAlexander Posts: 815
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    Yes, Biden has a point there.

    The crowd for Trump's speech last night was bigger than the maximum gathering size currently allowed in most USA states outdoors and the maximum size of 50 in DC, though it may have been allowed in Alaska, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska and Idaho, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah and Texas with approval of public officials and Florida (though gatherings of more than 50 are discouraged in the latter still).

    Even then however social distancing should be practiced

    https://www.northstarmeetingsgroup.com/News/Industry/Coronavirus-states-cities-reopening-COVID-19-new-cases

    Albeit BLM were also clearly in breach today too

    https://twitter.com/rachelvscott/status/1299423454559703045?s=20
    That's completely different for some reason.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Charles said:

    Alistair said:

    I hold Robby Mook personally responsible for Trump.

    Absolute fucking grade a moron.

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook-pm/2019/02/26/robby-mooks-new-gig-400029

    Does this impact chance of Dems winning the house...
    JFC, why is anyone letting him have the reins?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,139
    nichomar said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    Yes, Biden has a point there.

    The crowd for Trump's speech last night was bigger than the maximum gathering size currently allowed in most USA states outdoors and the maximum size of 50 in DC, though it may have been allowed in Alaska, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska and Idaho, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah and Texas with approval of public officials and Florida (though gatherings of more than 50 are discouraged in the latter still).

    Even then however social distancing should be practiced

    https://www.northstarmeetingsgroup.com/News/Industry/Coronavirus-states-cities-reopening-COVID-19-new-cases

    Albeit BLM were also clearly in breach today too

    https://twitter.com/rachelvscott/status/1299423454559703045?s=20
    Isn’t the president supposed to set a good example?
    I don't disagree but then BLM is not immune from the rules either
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    In many ways I hope you're right but I don’t think so. I’d like this all over so I feel safe to travel and see my children or they can come and see us with no risk to them or us. I need to find out if I’ll be able to have the vaccine when it becomes available as that will make things easier. We only socialize with the same four people to minimize risk and go where people respect the rules.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670

    Charles said:

    Alistair said:

    I hold Robby Mook personally responsible for Trump.

    Absolute fucking grade a moron.

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook-pm/2019/02/26/robby-mooks-new-gig-400029

    Does this impact chance of Dems winning the house...
    Charles said:

    Alistair said:

    I hold Robby Mook personally responsible for Trump.

    Absolute fucking grade a moron.

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook-pm/2019/02/26/robby-mooks-new-gig-400029

    Does this impact chance of Dems winning the house...
    I've heard a theory - too many young, impressionable people saw the West Wing and believed that:

    1) It takes a small coffee table of people to win a Presidential Election
    2) They were the real Josh Lyman

    Bit like my theory of what happened with Capitalism in Russia.
    I agree. I genuinely think the West Wing did serious damage to the Dems in terms of generating magical thinking to solve problems rather than actual things that work.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    HYUFD said:

    nichomar said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    Yes, Biden has a point there.

    The crowd for Trump's speech last night was bigger than the maximum gathering size currently allowed in most USA states outdoors and the maximum size of 50 in DC, though it may have been allowed in Alaska, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska and Idaho, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah and Texas with approval of public officials and Florida (though gatherings of more than 50 are discouraged in the latter still).

    Even then however social distancing should be practiced

    https://www.northstarmeetingsgroup.com/News/Industry/Coronavirus-states-cities-reopening-COVID-19-new-cases

    Albeit BLM were also clearly in breach today too

    https://twitter.com/rachelvscott/status/1299423454559703045?s=20
    Isn’t the president supposed to set a good example?
    I don't disagree but then BLM is not immune from the rules either
    Of course not but it seems as though the USA doesn't give a monkeys For rules.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    In many ways I hope you're right but I don’t think so. I’d like this all over so I feel safe to travel and see my children or they can come and see us with no risk to them or us. I need to find out if I’ll be able to have the vaccine when it becomes available as that will make things easier. We only socialize with the same four people to minimize risk and go where people respect the rules.
    Yes - think it could be a long and difficult autumn/winter for all of us!

    No room for complacency
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Nope. It’s just the standard EU playbook from the May days.

    U.K. asks for something - “outrageous” “ridiculous”

    EU asks for something “obvious” “essential” “no ability to discuss anything
    else before this is agreed”

    A negotiation is a negotiation.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    If you're not watching bbc 1 you are missing a treat.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,720
    Charles said:

    Nope. It’s just the standard EU playbook from the May days.

    U.K. asks for something - “outrageous” “ridiculous”

    EU asks for something “obvious” “essential” “no ability to discuss anything
    else before this is agreed”

    A negotiation is a negotiation.
    Imagine Barnier negotiating for a carpet in a Turkish bazaar.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,139
    nichomar said:

    If you're not watching bbc 1 you are missing a treat.

    Am watching yes before collecting a pizza, saw it in 2018 too, spectacular show
  • Don't feed the troll
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,720
    nichomar said:

    If you're not watching bbc 1 you are missing a treat.

    Good competition from BBC2 though! Live Proms socially distanced, Beethoven's 5th.

  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    In many ways I hope you're right but I don’t think so. I’d like this all over so I feel safe to travel and see my children or they can come and see us with no risk to them or us. I need to find out if I’ll be able to have the vaccine when it becomes available as that will make things easier. We only socialize with the same four people to minimize risk and go where people respect the rules.
    Yes - think it could be a long and difficult autumn/winter for all of us!

    No room for complacency
    For now, however, at least things still appear to be moving in the right direction. After some IT issues I have finally been able to look at the most recent available UK hospital figures, and the total remaining number of Covid patients is down another 12% in the last week. The English numbers, which are updated right up to today, give some cause for hope that the trend is continuing.
  • Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    Very, very well said and matter of fact Ave_it. A shame a couple of bitter people chose to tag your simple matter of facts as spam - wear it as a badge of honour it simply means they have no way of refuting what you're saying. Because you're right and they hate that you're right.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    geoffw said:

    nichomar said:

    If you're not watching bbc 1 you are missing a treat.

    Good competition from BBC2 though! Live Proms socially distanced, Beethoven's 5th.

    They are both examples of quality music, the tattoo bridging the globe, this makes me proud to be British, not a couple of outdated songs.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    edited August 2020

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    Very, very well said and matter of fact Ave_it. A shame a couple of bitter people chose to tag your simple matter of facts as spam - wear it as a badge of honour it simply means they have no way of refuting what you're saying. Because you're right and they hate that you're right.
    He could be right but to early to judge.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    Very, very well said and matter of fact Ave_it. A shame a couple of bitter people chose to tag your simple matter of facts as spam - wear it as a badge of honour it simply means they have no way of refuting what you're saying. Because you're right and they hate that you're right.
    He could be right but to early to judge.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    Very, very well said and matter of fact Ave_it. A shame a couple of bitter people chose to tag your simple matter of facts as spam - wear it as a badge of honour it simply means they have no way of refuting what you're saying. Because you're right and they hate that you're right.
    Thank you Philip

    Sadly we have an increasing number of wokeristas on here who don't like and/or can't tolerate opposing views. Also clearly they have no sense of humour. Typical left!

    Also the fact that flagging is anonymous makes them look like real brave boys! (or girls, you never know)!

  • Ave_it said:

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    Very, very well said and matter of fact Ave_it. A shame a couple of bitter people chose to tag your simple matter of facts as spam - wear it as a badge of honour it simply means they have no way of refuting what you're saying. Because you're right and they hate that you're right.
    Thank you Philip

    Sadly we have an increasing number of wokeristas on here who don't like and/or can't tolerate opposing views. Also clearly they have no sense of humour. Typical left!

    Also the fact that flagging is anonymous makes them look like real brave boys! (or girls, you never know)!

    Especially when we've been asked not to do it because it spams OGH and RCS's inbox with emails - I'm guessing they just have no respect for OGH or Robert, what a shame.
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    Ave_it said:

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    Very, very well said and matter of fact Ave_it. A shame a couple of bitter people chose to tag your simple matter of facts as spam - wear it as a badge of honour it simply means they have no way of refuting what you're saying. Because you're right and they hate that you're right.
    Thank you Philip

    Sadly we have an increasing number of wokeristas on here who don't like and/or can't tolerate opposing views. Also clearly they have no sense of humour. Typical left!

    Also the fact that flagging is anonymous makes them look like real brave boys! (or girls, you never know)!

    Flagging isn’t anonymous just hold on it and it tells you who flagged you, well it does for likes.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,002

    That's completely different for some reason.

    Masks, for a start
  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483

    Ave_it said:

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    Very, very well said and matter of fact Ave_it. A shame a couple of bitter people chose to tag your simple matter of facts as spam - wear it as a badge of honour it simply means they have no way of refuting what you're saying. Because you're right and they hate that you're right.
    Thank you Philip

    Sadly we have an increasing number of wokeristas on here who don't like and/or can't tolerate opposing views. Also clearly they have no sense of humour. Typical left!

    Also the fact that flagging is anonymous makes them look like real brave boys! (or girls, you never know)!

    Especially when we've been asked not to do it because it spams OGH and RCS's inbox with emails - I'm guessing they just have no respect for OGH or Robert, what a shame.
    You are being somewhat pompous now imo
  • nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    Very, very well said and matter of fact Ave_it. A shame a couple of bitter people chose to tag your simple matter of facts as spam - wear it as a badge of honour it simply means they have no way of refuting what you're saying. Because you're right and they hate that you're right.
    Thank you Philip

    Sadly we have an increasing number of wokeristas on here who don't like and/or can't tolerate opposing views. Also clearly they have no sense of humour. Typical left!

    Also the fact that flagging is anonymous makes them look like real brave boys! (or girls, you never know)!

    Flagging isn’t anonymous just hold on it and it tells you who flagged you, well it does for likes.
    Liking isn't anonymous, flagging is. Flagging also spams our hosts with emails as its meant to be used only to identify serious problems, not opinions you disagree with, so its incredibly rude to them too.
  • nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    Very, very well said and matter of fact Ave_it. A shame a couple of bitter people chose to tag your simple matter of facts as spam - wear it as a badge of honour it simply means they have no way of refuting what you're saying. Because you're right and they hate that you're right.
    Thank you Philip

    Sadly we have an increasing number of wokeristas on here who don't like and/or can't tolerate opposing views. Also clearly they have no sense of humour. Typical left!

    Also the fact that flagging is anonymous makes them look like real brave boys! (or girls, you never know)!

    Especially when we've been asked not to do it because it spams OGH and RCS's inbox with emails - I'm guessing they just have no respect for OGH or Robert, what a shame.
    You are being somewhat pompous now imo
    I respect our hosts and their polite requests.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Foxy said:

    Charles said:

    Sandpit said:

    Alistair said:

    FTPT

    HYUFD said:
    I found the poll. http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/08/16/rel8a.-.2020.pdf

    They count 15 states as battleground states. the list of "battlegrounds" is
    Arizona, Florida,Georgia, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio,Pennsylvania, Texas, and Wisconsin

    Oh no, Biden is struggling in Texas, he is doomed.

    IF Texas, Iowa and Georgia count as battlegrounds then Trump is fucked.
    The fact that Texas is trending purple is something to give the US Republicans sleepless nights. And this is a long term trend...
    There’s lots of Californians moving to Texas because California is turning to sh....

    There’s lots of Texans telling the newcomers not to bring their sh.. politics with them!
    The Californians moving to Texas are the batshit crazy Christian nutters. They ain’t votign Democrat
    Texas polls are pretty neck and neck.
    Sure but I suspect that is due to demographic change rather than nutters moving from California
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    Scott_xP said:
    We looked at this, running a week-on, week-off structure. That would mean we would only have half a class actually in at any one time so we could space them out more.

    We came to the conclusion that it caused so many problems and difficulties it would be easier just to continue with remote learning if it came to that.

    Now admittedly, I know what I’m doing and the DfE don’t, and I’m intelligent and they’re not, but would it have killed them to actually, y’know, ask somebody who knows their shit and has wargamed it and could tell them the likely drawbacks, before briefing the media?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    Charles said:

    Foxy said:

    Charles said:

    Sandpit said:

    Alistair said:

    FTPT

    HYUFD said:
    I found the poll. http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/08/16/rel8a.-.2020.pdf

    They count 15 states as battleground states. the list of "battlegrounds" is
    Arizona, Florida,Georgia, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio,Pennsylvania, Texas, and Wisconsin

    Oh no, Biden is struggling in Texas, he is doomed.

    IF Texas, Iowa and Georgia count as battlegrounds then Trump is fucked.
    The fact that Texas is trending purple is something to give the US Republicans sleepless nights. And this is a long term trend...
    There’s lots of Californians moving to Texas because California is turning to sh....

    There’s lots of Texans telling the newcomers not to bring their sh.. politics with them!
    The Californians moving to Texas are the batshit crazy Christian nutters. They ain’t votign Democrat
    Texas polls are pretty neck and neck.
    Sure but I suspect that is due to demographic change rather than nutters moving from California
    Can I make a joke about it being pretty neck v red neck?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,002
    ydoethur said:

    would it have killed them to actually, y’know, ask somebody who knows their shit and has wargamed it and could tell them the likely drawbacks, before briefing the media?

    Are you new here?
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,720
    Sorry, it's Beethoven's 3rd symphony (Eroica) on BBC2. The orchestra being separated makes for a visually improved presentation in our opinion. The missing audience is not missed.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176
    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:
    We looked at this, running a week-on, week-off structure. That would mean we would only have half a class actually in at any one time so we could space them out more.

    We came to the conclusion that it caused so many problems and difficulties it would be easier just to continue with remote learning if it came to that.

    Now admittedly, I know what I’m doing and the DfE don’t, and I’m intelligent and they’re not, but would it have killed them to actually, y’know, ask somebody who knows their shit and has wargamed it and could tell them the likely drawbacks, before briefing the media?
    I haven't looked at the detail, but would a rota system not being better than nothing for 4-11 year olds?
  • ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:
    We looked at this, running a week-on, week-off structure. That would mean we would only have half a class actually in at any one time so we could space them out more.

    We came to the conclusion that it caused so many problems and difficulties it would be easier just to continue with remote learning if it came to that.

    Now admittedly, I know what I’m doing and the DfE don’t, and I’m intelligent and they’re not, but would it have killed them to actually, y’know, ask somebody who knows their shit and has wargamed it and could tell them the likely drawbacks, before briefing the media?
    Surely that's the point though, that's a last resort not something that is actively wanted?

    And while you might find it easier just to continue with remote learning that does not necessarily mean it is easier for other schools - or pupils - or their parents either.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:
    So 65k paid per annum for approx 100 days per year.

    £650 a day - affected by additional benefits etc.

    Doesn't seem excessive for that role.
    It’s the standard rate for a ftse 250 non executive chair
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:
    So 65k paid per annum for approx 100 days per year.

    £650 a day - affected by additional benefits etc.

    Doesn't seem excessive for that role.
    It's not so bad.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,720
    Charles said:

    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:
    So 65k paid per annum for approx 100 days per year.

    £650 a day - affected by additional benefits etc.

    Doesn't seem excessive for that role.
    It’s the standard rate for a ftse 250 non executive chair
    So she's knowingly undersold.

  • nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:
    We looked at this, running a week-on, week-off structure. That would mean we would only have half a class actually in at any one time so we could space them out more.

    We came to the conclusion that it caused so many problems and difficulties it would be easier just to continue with remote learning if it came to that.

    Now admittedly, I know what I’m doing and the DfE don’t, and I’m intelligent and they’re not, but would it have killed them to actually, y’know, ask somebody who knows their shit and has wargamed it and could tell them the likely drawbacks, before briefing the media?
    They realized they didn’t have a plan B so sat down and wrote one on the back of a fag packet that they could release to the media. They don’t believe it will be needed so why bother checking it out. Meanwhile in areas of Spain they are buying thousands of laptops, turning class rooms into studios and looking to bring affordable internet to the homes that don’t have it, now that’s a plan B. They expect they will have to use it despite it being desperate to get children back to school, not least so they are under control while parents are at work.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    Scott_xP said:

    Wow.

    I didn't realise the worst Bond film of all time could have been even worse...

    https://twitter.com/robpowellnews/status/1299426969650688000

    Die Another Day?

    Hard to see how that could have been much worse.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Alistair said:

    Charles said:

    Alistair said:

    I hold Robby Mook personally responsible for Trump.

    Absolute fucking grade a moron.

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook-pm/2019/02/26/robby-mooks-new-gig-400029

    Does this impact chance of Dems winning the house...
    JFC, why is anyone letting him have the reins?
    Idiots need jobs too
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    geoffw said:

    Sorry, it's Beethoven's 3rd symphony (Eroica) on BBC2. The orchestra being separated makes for a visually improved presentation in our opinion. The missing audience is not missed.

    Fine performance of the Intense funeral march that comprises the second movement. When this symphony was first performed it must have sounded like nothing ever had before, that movement especially. The symphony as a whole was some 20 minutes longer than any that had been written up to then. Beethoven’s Eroica is one of the most remarkable pieces of music in the classical repertory.
  • Scott_xP said:

    Wow.

    I didn't realise the worst Bond film of all time could have been even worse...

    https://twitter.com/robpowellnews/status/1299426969650688000

    Die Another Day?

    Hard to see how that could have been much worse.
    The plot of that film, was there a plot?
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,775
    geoffw said:

    Sorry, it's Beethoven's 3rd symphony (Eroica) on BBC2. The orchestra being separated makes for a visually improved presentation in our opinion. The missing audience is not missed.

    I wonder if they'll actually finish up playing better with the extra space?

    No audience noise is a big plus.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,370
    Charles said:

    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:
    So 65k paid per annum for approx 100 days per year.

    £650 a day - affected by additional benefits etc.

    Doesn't seem excessive for that role.
    It’s the standard rate for a ftse 250 non executive chair
    Really? I can think of a few people who were getting that as senior developers - not even team leads - Java and C++
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    tlg86 said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:
    We looked at this, running a week-on, week-off structure. That would mean we would only have half a class actually in at any one time so we could space them out more.

    We came to the conclusion that it caused so many problems and difficulties it would be easier just to continue with remote learning if it came to that.

    Now admittedly, I know what I’m doing and the DfE don’t, and I’m intelligent and they’re not, but would it have killed them to actually, y’know, ask somebody who knows their shit and has wargamed it and could tell them the likely drawbacks, before briefing the media?
    I haven't looked at the detail, but would a rota system not being better than nothing for 4-11 year olds?
    No - probably worse.

    The problems are manifold and complex. One is that if teachers are teaching in rooms, they can’t teach effectively online, as it’s a totally different approach. So either you only cover 50% of the lessons, or you accept that 50% of what they’re taught is going to be ineffectual, which sods up learning down the line.

    There’s also quite a serious case of complexity with trying to make sure all the family go in on one week, which isn’t easy across schools.

    There were huge numbers of other problems around transport, shared facilities etc but those were the ones that stuck out.

    It’s the sort of thing that grabs you as a great idea on paper, but I don’t teach on paper and nor does anyone else so it wasn’t going to work in this thing called the real world.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176

    Scott_xP said:

    Wow.

    I didn't realise the worst Bond film of all time could have been even worse...

    https://twitter.com/robpowellnews/status/1299426969650688000

    Die Another Day?

    Hard to see how that could have been much worse.
    The plot of that film, was there a plot?
    Yes, even if it was ridiculous. The second Craig movie on the other hand...
  • nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    Very, very well said and matter of fact Ave_it. A shame a couple of bitter people chose to tag your simple matter of facts as spam - wear it as a badge of honour it simply means they have no way of refuting what you're saying. Because you're right and they hate that you're right.
    Thank you Philip

    Sadly we have an increasing number of wokeristas on here who don't like and/or can't tolerate opposing views. Also clearly they have no sense of humour. Typical left!

    Also the fact that flagging is anonymous makes them look like real brave boys! (or girls, you never know)!

    Flagging isn’t anonymous just hold on it and it tells you who flagged you, well it does for likes.
    Liking isn't anonymous, flagging is. Flagging also spams our hosts with emails as its meant to be used only to identify serious problems, not opinions you disagree with, so its incredibly rude to them too.
    Thanks Philip. I never knew what the Flag was for and have certainly never used it.

    What's Off Topic for? Who cares if something is off topic? Most posts are. Mine certainly are.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    edited August 2020

    geoffw said:

    Sorry, it's Beethoven's 3rd symphony (Eroica) on BBC2. The orchestra being separated makes for a visually improved presentation in our opinion. The missing audience is not missed.

    Fine performance of the Intense funeral march that comprises the second movement. When this symphony was first performed it must have sounded like nothing ever had before, that movement especially. The symphony as a whole was some 20 minutes longer than any that had been written up to then. Beethoven’s Eroica is one of the most remarkable pieces of music in the classical repertory.
    Just to add I think awed silence is in some ways a more appropriate response to a performance of a piece like this than applause.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,720

    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:
    So 65k paid per annum for approx 100 days per year.

    £650 a day - affected by additional benefits etc.

    Doesn't seem excessive for that role.
    It's not so bad.
    I am sure the 1% are quite happy with that as a daily rate. Nice work if you can get it.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,149

    Scott_xP said:

    Wow.

    I didn't realise the worst Bond film of all time could have been even worse...

    https://twitter.com/robpowellnews/status/1299426969650688000

    Die Another Day?

    Hard to see how that could have been much worse.
    Yes, but Die Another Day is so bad it is good.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    Very, very well said and matter of fact Ave_it. A shame a couple of bitter people chose to tag your simple matter of facts as spam - wear it as a badge of honour it simply means they have no way of refuting what you're saying. Because you're right and they hate that you're right.
    Thank you Philip

    Sadly we have an increasing number of wokeristas on here who don't like and/or can't tolerate opposing views. Also clearly they have no sense of humour. Typical left!

    Also the fact that flagging is anonymous makes them look like real brave boys! (or girls, you never know)!

    Flagging isn’t anonymous just hold on it and it tells you who flagged you, well it does for likes.
    Liking isn't anonymous, flagging is. Flagging also spams our hosts with emails as its meant to be used only to identify serious problems, not opinions you disagree with, so its incredibly rude to them too.
    Thanks Philip. I never knew what the Flag was for and have certainly never used it.

    What's Off Topic for? Who cares if something is off topic? Most posts are. Mine certainly are.
    I think its just to indicate a lower level of concern with a post - as you say if strictly adhered to, 90% of all posts on here would be marked off topic!
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    nichomar said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:
    We looked at this, running a week-on, week-off structure. That would mean we would only have half a class actually in at any one time so we could space them out more.

    We came to the conclusion that it caused so many problems and difficulties it would be easier just to continue with remote learning if it came to that.

    Now admittedly, I know what I’m doing and the DfE don’t, and I’m intelligent and they’re not, but would it have killed them to actually, y’know, ask somebody who knows their shit and has wargamed it and could tell them the likely drawbacks, before briefing the media?
    They realized they didn’t have a plan B so sat down and wrote one on the back of a fag packet that they could release to the media. They don’t believe it will be needed so why bother checking it out. Meanwhile in areas of Spain they are buying thousands of laptops, turning class rooms into studios and looking to bring affordable internet to the homes that don’t have it, now that’s a plan B. They expect they will have to use it despite it being desperate to get children back to school, not least so they are under control while parents are at work.
    The annoying thing is that giving every child in the U.K. a laptop/half decent tablet and reliable access to the internet would actually be genuinely transformative in terms of education. Even after isolation, the ways in which it would improve things would be remarkable.

    I can see it wouldn’t be easy (there’s a reason we all laughed at Jezza’s plan for free WiFi) but it certainly would be big.
  • Quantum of Solace, or as Mark Kermode called it, Question of Sport
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    kle4 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Wow.

    I didn't realise the worst Bond film of all time could have been even worse...

    https://twitter.com/robpowellnews/status/1299426969650688000

    Die Another Day?

    Hard to see how that could have been much worse.
    Yes, but Die Another Day is so bad it is good.
    I'm totally with you. Apart from the last three words.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,149

    kle4 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Wow.

    I didn't realise the worst Bond film of all time could have been even worse...

    https://twitter.com/robpowellnews/status/1299426969650688000

    Die Another Day?

    Hard to see how that could have been much worse.
    Yes, but Die Another Day is so bad it is good.
    I'm totally with you. Apart from the last three words.
    Oh come on, there aren't films you find so terrible they are actually entertaining? There's lots of movies that are technically much better than Die Another Day which are far less watchable.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,413
    edited August 2020
    ydoethur said:

    nichomar said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:
    We looked at this, running a week-on, week-off structure. That would mean we would only have half a class actually in at any one time so we could space them out more.

    We came to the conclusion that it caused so many problems and difficulties it would be easier just to continue with remote learning if it came to that.

    Now admittedly, I know what I’m doing and the DfE don’t, and I’m intelligent and they’re not, but would it have killed them to actually, y’know, ask somebody who knows their shit and has wargamed it and could tell them the likely drawbacks, before briefing the media?
    They realized they didn’t have a plan B so sat down and wrote one on the back of a fag packet that they could release to the media. They don’t believe it will be needed so why bother checking it out. Meanwhile in areas of Spain they are buying thousands of laptops, turning class rooms into studios and looking to bring affordable internet to the homes that don’t have it, now that’s a plan B. They expect they will have to use it despite it being desperate to get children back to school, not least so they are under control while parents are at work.
    The annoying thing is that giving every child in the U.K. a laptop/half decent tablet and reliable access to the internet would actually be genuinely transformative in terms of education. Even after isolation, the ways in which it would improve things would be remarkable.

    I can see it wouldn’t be easy (there’s a reason we all laughed at Jezza’s plan for free WiFi) but it certainly would be big.
    I agree. Why not be ambitious? Covid is a once in a generation opportunity to rethink our priorities and act transformatively.
    Sadly it seems propping up Pret is top of the agenda.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176

    Quantum of Solace, or as Mark Kermode called it, Question of Sport

    The writers strike is one of the only times I've supported industrial action. And guess what? It was incredibly effective.
  • HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Scott_xP said:
    Yes, Biden has a point there.

    The crowd for Trump's speech last night was bigger than the maximum gathering size currently allowed in most USA states outdoors and the maximum size of 50 in DC, though it may have been allowed in Alaska, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska and Idaho, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah and Texas with approval of public officials and Florida (though gatherings of more than 50 are discouraged in the latter still).

    Even then however social distancing should be practiced

    https://www.northstarmeetingsgroup.com/News/Industry/Coronavirus-states-cities-reopening-COVID-19-new-cases

    Albeit BLM were also clearly in breach today too

    https://twitter.com/rachelvscott/status/1299423454559703045?s=20
    Most people in view seem to be wearing masks at least.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,599

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Ave_it said:

    nichomar said:

    Ave_it said:

    Scott_xP said:
    If she's part of the reason why there's no second wave in the UK unlike across much of western Europe, then is worth every penny.
    Top value - we need to pay for the top people!
    Well why didn’t we get one then
    France - daily cases, huge
    Spain - daily cases, massive
    Germany - daily cases, going up
    UK - under control

    It's the Triptastic Trio - Boris, Hancock and Dido - saving the nation!
    Very, very well said and matter of fact Ave_it. A shame a couple of bitter people chose to tag your simple matter of facts as spam - wear it as a badge of honour it simply means they have no way of refuting what you're saying. Because you're right and they hate that you're right.
    Thank you Philip

    Sadly we have an increasing number of wokeristas on here who don't like and/or can't tolerate opposing views. Also clearly they have no sense of humour. Typical left!

    Also the fact that flagging is anonymous makes them look like real brave boys! (or girls, you never know)!

    Flagging isn’t anonymous just hold on it and it tells you who flagged you, well it does for likes.
    Liking isn't anonymous, flagging is. Flagging also spams our hosts with emails as its meant to be used only to identify serious problems, not opinions you disagree with, so its incredibly rude to them too.
    The flagging won’t be anonymous to the moderators, unless Vanilla is different to every other forum software!

    Yes, it’s supposed to be for anything potentially libellous, grossly offensive or link spam, not simply disagreements of opinion. At least not unless you want to upset the moderators and administrators.
  • Quantum of Solace, what a mess.

    Spectre wasn't great either
  • ydoethur said:

    nichomar said:

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:
    We looked at this, running a week-on, week-off structure. That would mean we would only have half a class actually in at any one time so we could space them out more.

    We came to the conclusion that it caused so many problems and difficulties it would be easier just to continue with remote learning if it came to that.

    Now admittedly, I know what I’m doing and the DfE don’t, and I’m intelligent and they’re not, but would it have killed them to actually, y’know, ask somebody who knows their shit and has wargamed it and could tell them the likely drawbacks, before briefing the media?
    They realized they didn’t have a plan B so sat down and wrote one on the back of a fag packet that they could release to the media. They don’t believe it will be needed so why bother checking it out. Meanwhile in areas of Spain they are buying thousands of laptops, turning class rooms into studios and looking to bring affordable internet to the homes that don’t have it, now that’s a plan B. They expect they will have to use it despite it being desperate to get children back to school, not least so they are under control while parents are at work.
    The annoying thing is that giving every child in the U.K. a laptop/half decent tablet and reliable access to the internet would actually be genuinely transformative in terms of education. Even after isolation, the ways in which it would improve things would be remarkable.

    I can see it wouldn’t be easy (there’s a reason we all laughed at Jezza’s plan for free WiFi) but it certainly would be big.
    FTTH for all at a decent price, yes please
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,599

    Quantum of Solace, or as Mark Kermode called it, Question of Sport

    Do Kermode and Mayo still do the Friday afternoon show on 5L? Some of the best radio for a long drive home at the end of the week.
  • Sandpit said:

    Quantum of Solace, or as Mark Kermode called it, Question of Sport

    Do Kermode and Mayo still do the Friday afternoon show on 5L? Some of the best radio for a long drive home at the end of the week.
    Yes.
  • nichomar said:

    If you're not watching bbc 1 you are missing a treat.

    I was watching BBC4 between 8pm and 9.30.
  • @Sandpit you can get the show on Spotify now
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,868
    Charles said:

    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:
    So 65k paid per annum for approx 100 days per year.

    £650 a day - affected by additional benefits etc.

    Doesn't seem excessive for that role.
    It’s the standard rate for a ftse 250 non executive chair
    That seems low, we have people on double that figure on python development. I guess the skill level is much higher but £650 per day gross is actually much less than I expected, wasted though because she's pretty useless.
  • CorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorseBattery Posts: 21,436
    edited August 2020
    Kermode rants are legendary. Here is a personal favourite.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfgCZ9lgQ3I
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176
    Sandpit said:

    Quantum of Solace, or as Mark Kermode called it, Question of Sport

    Do Kermode and Mayo still do the Friday afternoon show on 5L? Some of the best radio for a long drive home at the end of the week.
    Been a long time since I listened to Mark's review of Pirates 3. Time to put that right!
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,868

    Scott_xP said:

    Wow.

    I didn't realise the worst Bond film of all time could have been even worse...

    https://twitter.com/robpowellnews/status/1299426969650688000

    Die Another Day?

    Hard to see how that could have been much worse.
    The plot of that film, was there a plot?
    Was that the nukes in Turkey? That was a rubbish movie.
  • MaxPB said:

    Charles said:

    MattW said:

    Scott_xP said:
    So 65k paid per annum for approx 100 days per year.

    £650 a day - affected by additional benefits etc.

    Doesn't seem excessive for that role.
    It’s the standard rate for a ftse 250 non executive chair
    That seems low, we have people on double that figure on python development. I guess the skill level is much higher but £650 per day gross is actually much less than I expected, wasted though because she's pretty useless.
    £120K for Python? Are they contractors?

    What sort of software eng are they doing?
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