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  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,135
    tlg86 said:

    isam said:

    tlg86 said:

    Interesting that Farage says he's had a test. I wonder how he got that and in what circumstances.

    All the footballers playing the Prem are being tested twice a week without any symptoms arent they?

    Everyones talking about Nige in the pub with a pint.. he plays his enemies like a fiddle
    They're paying for them, I doubt Nige paid for his.
    Why wouldn't he?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,995
    isam said:

    tlg86 said:

    isam said:

    tlg86 said:

    Interesting that Farage says he's had a test. I wonder how he got that and in what circumstances.

    All the footballers playing the Prem are being tested twice a week without any symptoms arent they?

    Everyones talking about Nige in the pub with a pint.. he plays his enemies like a fiddle
    They're paying for them, I doubt Nige paid for his.
    Why'd you doubt that?
    Because I doubt joe public can just ask for a test to be done.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,505

    isam said:
    Wasn't Nige hanging about in Tulsa 2 weeks ago sniffing Trump's bottom? Must have had a superfast executive jet on standby to whip him back.
    Positive tests don’t show up right away. He should surely be in quarantine.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,491
    isam said:

    PLEASE let Sir Keir call for Farage to be arrested

    Davey beat him to it!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367

    isam said:

    PLEASE let Sir Keir call for Farage to be arrested

    Davey beat him to it!
    Fake news.

    He asked for him to be investigated, you don't need to arrested to be investigated.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,491
    IanB2 said:

    isam said:
    Wasn't Nige hanging about in Tulsa 2 weeks ago sniffing Trump's bottom? Must have had a superfast executive jet on standby to whip him back.
    Positive tests don’t show up right away. He should surely be in quarantine.
    ...but it's Nigey. Peasant rules don't apply!
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,503
    I think we're all losing sight of the bigger picture, which is my Norris tip coming off.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 61,335
    Scott_xP said:
    I have the t-shirt!! :cookie:

    I intend to wear it on the great night in November, when it will end up either covered in tears of joy or despair (and probably some wine stains).

    You can order from US here:

    https://teespring.com/en-GB/bye20?pid=389
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,491
    Nicola has assessed the risk and made a judgement call. Time will tell if she is right. I lost Johnson this pandemic when he started making the judgement call without assessing the risk.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    tlg86 said:

    isam said:

    tlg86 said:

    isam said:

    tlg86 said:

    Interesting that Farage says he's had a test. I wonder how he got that and in what circumstances.

    All the footballers playing the Prem are being tested twice a week without any symptoms arent they?

    Everyones talking about Nige in the pub with a pint.. he plays his enemies like a fiddle
    They're paying for them, I doubt Nige paid for his.
    Why'd you doubt that?
    Because I doubt joe public can just ask for a test to be done.
    Private sector?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,491

    isam said:

    PLEASE let Sir Keir call for Farage to be arrested

    Davey beat him to it!
    Fake news.

    He asked for him to be investigated, you don't need to arrested to be investigated.
    Pedant!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    IanB2 said:

    isam said:
    Wasn't Nige hanging about in Tulsa 2 weeks ago sniffing Trump's bottom? Must have had a superfast executive jet on standby to whip him back.
    Positive tests don’t show up right away. He should surely be in quarantine.
    Sounds as though he was at most 12 hours away from the end anyway.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,491
    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    isam said:
    Wasn't Nige hanging about in Tulsa 2 weeks ago sniffing Trump's bottom? Must have had a superfast executive jet on standby to whip him back.
    Positive tests don’t show up right away. He should surely be in quarantine.
    Sounds as though he was at most 12 hours away from the end anyway.
    Well that's alright then?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,618
    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    isam said:
    Wasn't Nige hanging about in Tulsa 2 weeks ago sniffing Trump's bottom? Must have had a superfast executive jet on standby to whip him back.
    Positive tests don’t show up right away. He should surely be in quarantine.
    Sounds as though he was at most 12 hours away from the end anyway.
    A revival of Faragism is probably good for LDs and Lab of course. Most likely to harm the Tories.

    It would be fun to see him in irons though.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541

    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    isam said:
    Wasn't Nige hanging about in Tulsa 2 weeks ago sniffing Trump's bottom? Must have had a superfast executive jet on standby to whip him back.
    Positive tests don’t show up right away. He should surely be in quarantine.
    Sounds as though he was at most 12 hours away from the end anyway.
    Well that's alright then?
    Just putting it in perspective!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    isam said:
    Wasn't Nige hanging about in Tulsa 2 weeks ago sniffing Trump's bottom? Must have had a superfast executive jet on standby to whip him back.
    Positive tests don’t show up right away. He should surely be in quarantine.
    Sounds as though he was at most 12 hours away from the end anyway.
    A revival of Faragism is probably good for LDs and Lab of course. Most likely to harm the Tories.

    It would be fun to see him in irons though.
    An odd view for a liberal. That punishment would be way out of proportion.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,618
    edited July 2020

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Formation change good for Leicester. Nice cross from Youri, and finish from 'Nacho.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    isam said:
    Wasn't Nige hanging about in Tulsa 2 weeks ago sniffing Trump's bottom? Must have had a superfast executive jet on standby to whip him back.
    Positive tests don’t show up right away. He should surely be in quarantine.
    Sounds as though he was at most 12 hours away from the end anyway.
    A revival of Faragism is probably good for LDs and Lab of course. Most likely to harm the Tories.

    It would be fun to see him in irons though.
    Not sure about that, in the NE the Tories stood still but benefited because Farage took Labour votes. Might have been different elsewhere I guess, I only noticed the NE seats where the Lab decrease was often the same as the BXP share
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,995

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,491
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    isam said:
    Wasn't Nige hanging about in Tulsa 2 weeks ago sniffing Trump's bottom? Must have had a superfast executive jet on standby to whip him back.
    Positive tests don’t show up right away. He should surely be in quarantine.
    Sounds as though he was at most 12 hours away from the end anyway.
    A revival of Faragism is probably good for LDs and Lab of course. Most likely to harm the Tories.

    It would be fun to see him in irons though.
    Even better, Farage's party propping up a Starmer minority government.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,618

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    Foden too.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    edited July 2020
    Foxy said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    Foden too.
    Foden looks the real deal upon the restart of the EPL.

    Centre Backs is where England are weak.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    And the world's best (attacking) right back in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

    Absolutely astonishing to think he has more assists than most midfielders.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    Bournemouth are going down aren't they.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,132
    malcolmg said:

    stodge said:

    As it's apparently "super Saturday", I can only assume it's for the running of both the Derby and the Oaks at Epsom.

    The Oaks looks a three-horse race on paper. LOVE won the 1000 Guineas and looks a top-class filly. FRANKLY DARLING beat ENNISTYMON in the Ribblesdale and you'd have to think there'd be little between them. I've not played on the race but my selection is LOVE.

    The Derby looks wide open but it's easy to have doubts about a lot of the principals. ENGLISH KING won the Lingfield Derby Trial but the second that day might not be anything special and ENGLISH KING has a poor draw.

    KAMEKO won the 2000 Guineas but he's a mile and a quarter horse on breeding so I oppose him. The Aidan O'Brien horses look nothing special - MOGUL may well come on from his King Edward VII run but he'll have to. RUSSIAN EMPEROR won the Hampton Court and the ground should be ideal - I think he'll go close.

    PYLEDRIVER won with an enterprising ride at Ascot and he won't get that advantage again. HIGHLAND CHIEF won a handicap on soft ground last time and isn't anywhere near good enough.

    I've backed MOHICAN HEIGHTS each way at 20/1. I thought he ran home well behind PYLEDRIVER at Ascot and could be staying on from the rear when others are running on fumes.

    I have done ENNISTYMON , good bet at 7-1 given form.
    I've done WORTHILY at 33s.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367

    Bournemouth are going down aren't they.

    Like a cheap hooker.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,132
    isam said:

    tlg86 said:

    Interesting that Farage says he's had a test. I wonder how he got that and in what circumstances.

    All the footballers playing the Prem are being tested twice a week without any symptoms arent they?

    Everyones talking about Nige in the pub with a pint.. he plays his enemies like a fiddle
    Not "Nige" - "Farage".
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367

    isam said:

    PLEASE let Sir Keir call for Farage to be arrested

    Davey beat him to it!
    Fake news.

    He asked for him to be investigated, you don't need to arrested to be investigated.
    Pedant!
    I know, I'm sure Farage is still looking to do his personal stations of the cross.
  • Rexel56Rexel56 Posts: 807
    edited July 2020

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    And the world's best (attacking) right back in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

    Absolutely astonishing to think he has more assists than most midfielders.
    Will be interesting to see him play alongside Alcantara…
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    And the world's best (attacking) right back in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

    Absolutely astonishing to think he has more assists than most midfielders.
    Perhaps England should just copy the Brazil approach of the past, don't worry about defending, just out score the opposition.
  • Rexel56Rexel56 Posts: 807
    Foxy said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    Foden too.

    Delighted to see that the man who cost England a place in the WC final isn’t in your list...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    Man Utd could score 7-8 here.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    edited July 2020

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    And the world's best (attacking) right back in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

    Absolutely astonishing to think he has more assists than most midfielders.
    Perhaps England should just copy the Brazil approach of the past, don't worry about defending, just out score the opposition.
    Well Trent did score a goal like Carlos Alberto did in the 1970 world cup final.

    https://youtu.be/iPUVHaxWGO0?t=150
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    About time.....

    The target to get 50 per cent of young people into university is set to be formally abandoned as part of a drive to expand vocational education.

    Chancellor Rishi Sunak will use next week’s mini-Budget to announce funding for a huge expansion in apprenticeships.

    With youngsters facing what is set to be the most difficult jobs market for a generation, Education Secretary Gavin Williamson will also launch a major push to expand further education.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8488909//Blair-era-target-send-50-percent-young-people-university-axed.html
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,248
    A new high of 11,458 new cases in Florida. Only 16 deaths though. Must be a less virulent strain of the virus there than in most other places.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited July 2020
    Foxy said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    Foden too.
    Not to mention Bukayo Saka #GodIsGreat
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Rexel56 said:

    Foxy said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    Foden too.

    Delighted to see that the man who cost England a place in the WC final isn’t in your list...
    John Stones?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541

    A new high of 11,458 new cases in Florida. Only 16 deaths though. Must be a less virulent strain of the virus there than in most other places.

    Or it's infecting younger people where the mortality rate is lower.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,995

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    And the world's best (attacking) right back in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

    Absolutely astonishing to think he has more assists than most midfielders.
    Perhaps England should just copy the Brazil approach of the past, don't worry about defending, just out score the opposition.
    Has that ever been the Brazil approach? The two world cups they've won that I remember were notable for the impact of their holding midfielders.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,491
    RobD said:

    A new high of 11,458 new cases in Florida. Only 16 deaths though. Must be a less virulent strain of the virus there than in most other places.

    Or it's infecting younger people where the mortality rate is lower.
    ...or something to do with the unusually high uptick in excess pneumonia fatalities. Just saying.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,132

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    We would have won the Euros.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    And the world's best (attacking) right back in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

    Absolutely astonishing to think he has more assists than most midfielders.
    Perhaps England should just copy the Brazil approach of the past, don't worry about defending, just out score the opposition.
    Has that ever been the Brazil approach? The two world cups they've won that I remember were notable for the impact of their holding midfielders.
    Cafu and Carlos didn't do much defending though.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    kinabalu said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    We would have won the Euros.
    Nah, not whilst Jordan Pickford is in goal.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,248
    RobD said:

    A new high of 11,458 new cases in Florida. Only 16 deaths though. Must be a less virulent strain of the virus there than in most other places.

    Or it's infecting younger people where the mortality rate is lower.
    But only in Florida presumably.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,995
    edited July 2020

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    And the world's best (attacking) right back in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

    Absolutely astonishing to think he has more assists than most midfielders.
    Perhaps England should just copy the Brazil approach of the past, don't worry about defending, just out score the opposition.
    Has that ever been the Brazil approach? The two world cups they've won that I remember were notable for the impact of their holding midfielders.
    Cafu and Carlos didn't do much defending though.
    They were wingbacks in 2002:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_FIFA_World_Cup_Final

    How good was Gilberto Silva? They won with an injured keeper and Roque Junior in the team!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    edited July 2020
    kinabalu said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    We would have won the Euros.
    The delay might actually be really good for England...another year of development for these players. Need to hope somebody like Gomez can improve as a centre back partnership of Maguire and Mings or Stones will always leak goals.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,618

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    And the world's best (attacking) right back in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

    Absolutely astonishing to think he has more assists than most midfielders.
    Perhaps England should just copy the Brazil approach of the past, don't worry about defending, just out score the opposition.
    Postponing the Euros for a year has probably been to the teams advantage.

    I don't know how they fit in all the Leagues, European games, Euros and be ready for a winter World Cup in 18 months.
  • Rexel56Rexel56 Posts: 807

    Rexel56 said:

    Foxy said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    Foden too.

    Delighted to see that the man who cost England a place in the WC final isn’t in your list...
    John Stones?
    Harry “I’ll take on this difficult one-on-one to get myself the Golden Boot rather than slide it across to the unmarked Stirling for a tap in and 2-0” Kane... the man for whom the top scorer award has always meant more than the trophy... Klopp has yet to stop smiling after seeing the CL Final team sheet...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150

    kinabalu said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    We would have won the Euros.
    Nah, not whilst Jordan Pickford is in goal.
    I would have thought another year and Henderson could be #1
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Rexel56 said:

    Rexel56 said:

    Foxy said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    Foden too.

    Delighted to see that the man who cost England a place in the WC final isn’t in your list...
    John Stones?
    Harry “I’ll take on this difficult one-on-one to get myself the Golden Boot rather than slide it across to the unmarked Stirling for a tap in and 2-0” Kane... the man for whom the top scorer award has always meant more than the trophy... Klopp has yet to stop smiling after seeing the CL Final team sheet...
    Yup, I also cheered when I saw the Champions League final team sheet.

    Poor Lucas Moura.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,618
    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    And the world's best (attacking) right back in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

    Absolutely astonishing to think he has more assists than most midfielders.
    Perhaps England should just copy the Brazil approach of the past, don't worry about defending, just out score the opposition.
    Has that ever been the Brazil approach? The two world cups they've won that I remember were notable for the impact of their holding midfielders.
    Enter Hamza Choudhury to strike fear into any attacking player...
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,995

    kinabalu said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    We would have won the Euros.
    Nah, not whilst Jordan Pickford is in goal.
    I would have thought another year and Henderson could be #1
    I've watched him closely due to my bet on Sheff Utd to finish top 6 and I'm not convinced about him.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216

    A new high of 11,458 new cases in Florida. Only 16 deaths though. Must be a less virulent strain of the virus there than in most other places.

    Several factors - deaths is a significantly lagging indicator, the demographics of the infected may be less likely to lead to death (younger?) and treatment has improved. IF (and its a big if) the US CFR of 4.6% holds they could be looking at ±500 deaths from today alone - but lets hope the ultimate outcome is a lot better than that. The other danger with large numbers of cases is health systems become overwhelmed and then mortality rates deteriorate....
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367

    kinabalu said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    We would have won the Euros.
    Nah, not whilst Jordan Pickford is in goal.
    I would have thought another year and Henderson could be #1
    Yup, that's the hope.

    The way De Gea is playing Henderson is going to be Manchester United's number 1 soon.
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 7,059
    edited July 2020

    A new high of 11,458 new cases in Florida. Only 16 deaths though. Must be a less virulent strain of the virus there than in most other places.

    Surely the deaths today would be people who first exhibited symptoms at the very least a fortnight ago, and probably closer to a month ago? So it isn't the relevant comparison - deaths now correspond to positive tests weeks ago, positive tests now to deaths in late July/early August.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Foxy said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    And the world's best (attacking) right back in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

    Absolutely astonishing to think he has more assists than most midfielders.
    Perhaps England should just copy the Brazil approach of the past, don't worry about defending, just out score the opposition.
    Has that ever been the Brazil approach? The two world cups they've won that I remember were notable for the impact of their holding midfielders.
    Enter Hamza Choudhury to strike fear into any attacking player...
    He's a dirty player, he should play for Dirty Leeds.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    tlg86 said:

    kinabalu said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    We would have won the Euros.
    Nah, not whilst Jordan Pickford is in goal.
    I would have thought another year and Henderson could be #1
    I've watched him closely due to my bet on Sheff Utd to finish top 6 and I'm not convinced about him.
    It is as much to do with the fact Pickford looks awful and not much other competition. Pope, hmmm, then who else? The big hope at one point was Butland, but he could be playing division one football in a few months the way Stoke are going.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541

    A new high of 11,458 new cases in Florida. Only 16 deaths though. Must be a less virulent strain of the virus there than in most other places.

    Surely the deaths today would be people who first exhibited symptoms at the very least a fortnight ago, and probably closer to a month ago? So it isn't the relevant comparison - deaths now correspond to positive tests weeks ago, positive tests now to deaths in late July/early August.
    Does it really take a month to go from symptom to death?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,618

    Foxy said:

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    And the world's best (attacking) right back in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

    Absolutely astonishing to think he has more assists than most midfielders.
    Perhaps England should just copy the Brazil approach of the past, don't worry about defending, just out score the opposition.
    Has that ever been the Brazil approach? The two world cups they've won that I remember were notable for the impact of their holding midfielders.
    Enter Hamza Choudhury to strike fear into any attacking player...
    He's a dirty player, he should play for Dirty Leeds.
    Nah, just a little enthusiastic. A winning team nees a Nobby Stiles.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    edited July 2020
    RobD said:

    A new high of 11,458 new cases in Florida. Only 16 deaths though. Must be a less virulent strain of the virus there than in most other places.

    Surely the deaths today would be people who first exhibited symptoms at the very least a fortnight ago, and probably closer to a month ago? So it isn't the relevant comparison - deaths now correspond to positive tests weeks ago, positive tests now to deaths in late July/early August.
    Does it really take a month to go from symptom to death?
    A month is about right. 7-10 days ill with the flu like symptoms, then you go downhill and 2-3 weeks in ICU. I believe the original Chinese data normally showed a month being roughly the time period.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,618

    A new high of 11,458 new cases in Florida. Only 16 deaths though. Must be a less virulent strain of the virus there than in most other places.

    Surely the deaths today would be people who first exhibited symptoms at the very least a fortnight ago, and probably closer to a month ago? So it isn't the relevant comparison - deaths now correspond to positive tests weeks ago, positive tests now to deaths in late July/early August.
    Yes, at the time the Republicans meet in Jacksonville isn't it?
  • JSpringJSpring Posts: 100
    "As someone who was born within three weeks of Trump I believe strongly that both are just too old for the demanding job that is required of them."

    And the issue with Obama was that he was too inexperienced, with Dubya Bush it was that he was too stupid, with Clinton and Nixon it was that they were too sleazy, with Carter it was that he was too much of an outsider etc. There's always something to latch onto.

    Thankfully the U.S. presidency isn't an autocratic position anyway, despite what many who hold the office might otherwise wish.
  • RobD said:

    A new high of 11,458 new cases in Florida. Only 16 deaths though. Must be a less virulent strain of the virus there than in most other places.

    Surely the deaths today would be people who first exhibited symptoms at the very least a fortnight ago, and probably closer to a month ago? So it isn't the relevant comparison - deaths now correspond to positive tests weeks ago, positive tests now to deaths in late July/early August.
    Does it really take a month to go from symptom to death?
    Can do. Three weeks is more typical but can be more and can be a bit less. Only people with VERY severe existing conditions might be expected to succumb in less than a fortnight.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,130
    Foxy said:

    tlg86 said:

    Jumpers for goal posts stuff in Man Utd vs Bournemouth game.

    Mason Greenwood looks like a very good player.
    England look like have some serious attacking talent for years to come...Greenwood, Rashford, Sterling, Sancho, Hudson-Odi to name just a few.
    And the world's best (attacking) right back in Trent Alexander-Arnold.

    Absolutely astonishing to think he has more assists than most midfielders.
    Perhaps England should just copy the Brazil approach of the past, don't worry about defending, just out score the opposition.
    Postponing the Euros for a year has probably been to the teams advantage.

    I don't know how they fit in all the Leagues, European games, Euros and be ready for a winter World Cup in 18 months.
    Qatar isn’t close to being ready either, if it’s any consolation. Watch for the face-saving 12 month delay, with the virus as the convenient excuse.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541

    RobD said:

    A new high of 11,458 new cases in Florida. Only 16 deaths though. Must be a less virulent strain of the virus there than in most other places.

    Surely the deaths today would be people who first exhibited symptoms at the very least a fortnight ago, and probably closer to a month ago? So it isn't the relevant comparison - deaths now correspond to positive tests weeks ago, positive tests now to deaths in late July/early August.
    Does it really take a month to go from symptom to death?
    Can do. Three weeks is more typical but can be more and can be a bit less. Only people with VERY severe existing conditions might be expected to succumb in less than a fortnight.
    Thanks. I was under the wrong impression a fortnight was typical!
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Positive rate in Florida a worry too - 18%

    https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1279440528413687813?s=20
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,997
    Good afternoon ladies & gentlemen. Just back from a) lunch and b) a wander round our small town. One barber busy..... well showing a client out and welcoming the next one, ....... but both pubs that are open were very quiet Tables outside both but by no means all occupied. Some shops open but my wife and I both thought it quieter than a normal Saturday.
    The travel agent has shut down and the wine bar, which closed some time ago is up for sale.
  • RobD said:

    RobD said:

    A new high of 11,458 new cases in Florida. Only 16 deaths though. Must be a less virulent strain of the virus there than in most other places.

    Surely the deaths today would be people who first exhibited symptoms at the very least a fortnight ago, and probably closer to a month ago? So it isn't the relevant comparison - deaths now correspond to positive tests weeks ago, positive tests now to deaths in late July/early August.
    Does it really take a month to go from symptom to death?
    Can do. Three weeks is more typical but can be more and can be a bit less. Only people with VERY severe existing conditions might be expected to succumb in less than a fortnight.
    Thanks. I was under the wrong impression a fortnight was typical!
    I believe you know if you're in real trouble after a fortnight. After week one, most get better but a few get worse. After week two, those that get worse are either in big trouble or not. But severe cases are rarely dead early in the third week - they might well be on ventilation and in the balance, but are normally hanging on in there unless they have major pre-existing issues.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,249
    HYUFD said:

    Hard Brexiteers pushing for their own Independence Day

    https://twitter.com/LewisFeilder/status/1279315529577226240?s=20

    It's tragic. They failed to develop a proper cricket team.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 47,618

    Good afternoon ladies & gentlemen. Just back from a) lunch and b) a wander round our small town. One barber busy..... well showing a client out and welcoming the next one, ....... but both pubs that are open were very quiet Tables outside both but by no means all occupied. Some shops open but my wife and I both thought it quieter than a normal Saturday.
    The travel agent has shut down and the wine bar, which closed some time ago is up for sale.

    A lot of the shops and restaurants in Leicester look more like they are preparing to close than reopen.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    DavidL said:

    HYUFD said:

    Hard Brexiteers pushing for their own Independence Day

    https://twitter.com/LewisFeilder/status/1279315529577226240?s=20

    It's tragic. They failed to develop a proper cricket team.
    Nonsense. I saw the USA cricket team take on New Zealand in the 2004 Champions Trophy at The Oval.
  • LadyGLadyG Posts: 2,221
    THIS now appears in front of lots of movies on Sky:

    "This film has outdated attitudes, language and cultural depictions which may cause offence today. Sci-fi sequel starring Sigourney Weaver. Contains violence."

    https://www.sky.com/watch/title/programme/d4b63e32-3e67-4408-8c50-47720ef807a3/aliens-1986


    This particular movie is Aliens. Can anyone tell me what is offensive in Aliens?

    Genuinely mystified.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,726
    LadyG said:

    THIS now appears in front of lots of movies on Sky:

    "This film has outdated attitudes, language and cultural depictions which may cause offence today. Sci-fi sequel starring Sigourney Weaver. Contains violence."

    https://www.sky.com/watch/title/programme/d4b63e32-3e67-4408-8c50-47720ef807a3/aliens-1986


    This particular movie is Aliens. Can anyone tell me what is offensive in Aliens?

    Genuinely mystified.

    There are scenes of implied heterosexuality within the film.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,249
    The sad thing is that these arseholes think this is humorous.

    Presumably if we apply quarantine on the English lorry deliveries to our supermarkets will stop?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 27,491
    LadyG said:

    THIS now appears in front of lots of movies on Sky:

    "This film has outdated attitudes, language and cultural depictions which may cause offence today. Sci-fi sequel starring Sigourney Weaver. Contains violence."

    https://www.sky.com/watch/title/programme/d4b63e32-3e67-4408-8c50-47720ef807a3/aliens-1986


    This particular movie is Aliens. Can anyone tell me what is offensive in Aliens?

    Genuinely mystified.

    Negative stereotyping of aliens?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 61,335
    LadyG said:

    THIS now appears in front of lots of movies on Sky:

    "This film has outdated attitudes, language and cultural depictions which may cause offence today. Sci-fi sequel starring Sigourney Weaver. Contains violence."

    https://www.sky.com/watch/title/programme/d4b63e32-3e67-4408-8c50-47720ef807a3/aliens-1986


    This particular movie is Aliens. Can anyone tell me what is offensive in Aliens?

    Genuinely mystified.

    It portrays non-earth species in a negative fashion.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 51,575

    LadyG said:

    THIS now appears in front of lots of movies on Sky:

    "This film has outdated attitudes, language and cultural depictions which may cause offence today. Sci-fi sequel starring Sigourney Weaver. Contains violence."

    https://www.sky.com/watch/title/programme/d4b63e32-3e67-4408-8c50-47720ef807a3/aliens-1986


    This particular movie is Aliens. Can anyone tell me what is offensive in Aliens?

    Genuinely mystified.

    It portrays non-earth species in a negative fashion.
    "nuking from orbit" is just so speciesist.....
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 68,415

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

    IF you want to understand why Black Lives Matter is resonating so strongly with a diverse spectrum of Americans in the wake of the killing of George Floyd - despite the wretched excesses of a small minority of anarchists, rioters & other opportunists - these key words from the Declaration of Independence are the reason.

    We often fail to live up to them - their author Thomas Jefferson certainly did - but they keep ringing in our ears and appealing to what our greatest president Abraham Lincoln called "the angels of our better nature".

    The better angels of our nature.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,497
    isam said:
    That’s deeply disappointing news.

    I hoped he’d stay in the US for the rest of his life.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,995
    Did someone say that the O'Brien horses didn't look special?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    LadyG said:

    THIS now appears in front of lots of movies on Sky:

    "This film has outdated attitudes, language and cultural depictions which may cause offence today. Sci-fi sequel starring Sigourney Weaver. Contains violence."

    https://www.sky.com/watch/title/programme/d4b63e32-3e67-4408-8c50-47720ef807a3/aliens-1986


    This particular movie is Aliens. Can anyone tell me what is offensive in Aliens?

    Genuinely mystified.

    I think it is do with the white actress Jenette Goldstein wearing extensive makeup to play the Hispanic character Vasquez.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    LadyG said:

    THIS now appears in front of lots of movies on Sky:

    "This film has outdated attitudes, language and cultural depictions which may cause offence today. Sci-fi sequel starring Sigourney Weaver. Contains violence."

    https://www.sky.com/watch/title/programme/d4b63e32-3e67-4408-8c50-47720ef807a3/aliens-1986


    This particular movie is Aliens. Can anyone tell me what is offensive in Aliens?

    Genuinely mystified.

    I had a look, it's apparently because Vasquez is not played by a hispanic actress.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 41,132
    Hilarious Derby!
  • LadyGLadyG Posts: 2,221

    LadyG said:

    THIS now appears in front of lots of movies on Sky:

    "This film has outdated attitudes, language and cultural depictions which may cause offence today. Sci-fi sequel starring Sigourney Weaver. Contains violence."

    https://www.sky.com/watch/title/programme/d4b63e32-3e67-4408-8c50-47720ef807a3/aliens-1986


    This particular movie is Aliens. Can anyone tell me what is offensive in Aliens?

    Genuinely mystified.

    It portrays non-earth species in a negative fashion.
    Yes, maybe it's stereotyping.

    They should remake the movie, only with NICE aliens, then it would be fine.

    John Hurt could keep one as a pet, and Sigourney could learn how to do alien crochet from the Alien Mother
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 22,284
    Foxy said:

    Good afternoon ladies & gentlemen. Just back from a) lunch and b) a wander round our small town. One barber busy..... well showing a client out and welcoming the next one, ....... but both pubs that are open were very quiet Tables outside both but by no means all occupied. Some shops open but my wife and I both thought it quieter than a normal Saturday.
    The travel agent has shut down and the wine bar, which closed some time ago is up for sale.

    A lot of the shops and restaurants in Leicester look more like they are preparing to close than reopen.
    From my experience of Leicester, that’s situation normal.
  • LadyGLadyG Posts: 2,221

    LadyG said:

    THIS now appears in front of lots of movies on Sky:

    "This film has outdated attitudes, language and cultural depictions which may cause offence today. Sci-fi sequel starring Sigourney Weaver. Contains violence."

    https://www.sky.com/watch/title/programme/d4b63e32-3e67-4408-8c50-47720ef807a3/aliens-1986


    This particular movie is Aliens. Can anyone tell me what is offensive in Aliens?

    Genuinely mystified.

    I think it is do with the white actress Jenette Goldstein wearing extensive makeup to play the Hispanic character Vasquez.
    Oh god. *clutches head*
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,497

    DavidL said:

    HYUFD said:

    Hard Brexiteers pushing for their own Independence Day

    https://twitter.com/LewisFeilder/status/1279315529577226240?s=20

    It's tragic. They failed to develop a proper cricket team.
    Nonsense. I saw the USA cricket team take on New Zealand in the 2004 Champions Trophy at The Oval.
    Wasn’t it composed entirely of superannuated West Indian rejects?

    Admittedly there was a time when the mere thought of that would have been enough to lead the opposition into wearing brown trousers and risking the fine. But not by 2004.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 26,977
    kinabalu said:

    Hilarious Derby!

    The one I put up on here, Amhran Na Bhfiann, came only third.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,995
    kinabalu said:

    Hilarious Derby!

    It's a good job it was behind closed doors. The punters would have wanted the other jockeys strung up!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    LadyG said:

    LadyG said:

    THIS now appears in front of lots of movies on Sky:

    "This film has outdated attitudes, language and cultural depictions which may cause offence today. Sci-fi sequel starring Sigourney Weaver. Contains violence."

    https://www.sky.com/watch/title/programme/d4b63e32-3e67-4408-8c50-47720ef807a3/aliens-1986


    This particular movie is Aliens. Can anyone tell me what is offensive in Aliens?

    Genuinely mystified.

    I think it is do with the white actress Jenette Goldstein wearing extensive makeup to play the Hispanic character Vasquez.
    Oh god. *clutches head*
    Were you offended? :smiley:
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 70,497
    Was the pub in Barnard Castle?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    HYUFD said:

    Hard Brexiteers pushing for their own Independence Day

    https://twitter.com/LewisFeilder/status/1279315529577226240?s=20

    It's tragic. They failed to develop a proper cricket team.
    Nonsense. I saw the USA cricket team take on New Zealand in the 2004 Champions Trophy at The Oval.
    Wasn’t it composed entirely of superannuated West Indian rejects?

    Admittedly there was a time when the mere thought of that would have been enough to lead the opposition into wearing brown trousers and risking the fine. But not by 2004.
    Nah, there were a few Pakistanis and Indians in there.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    LadyG said:

    LadyG said:

    THIS now appears in front of lots of movies on Sky:

    "This film has outdated attitudes, language and cultural depictions which may cause offence today. Sci-fi sequel starring Sigourney Weaver. Contains violence."

    https://www.sky.com/watch/title/programme/d4b63e32-3e67-4408-8c50-47720ef807a3/aliens-1986


    This particular movie is Aliens. Can anyone tell me what is offensive in Aliens?

    Genuinely mystified.

    I think it is do with the white actress Jenette Goldstein wearing extensive makeup to play the Hispanic character Vasquez.
    Oh god. *clutches head*
    Wait until you hear why they will never show Song Of The South again.
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