Is anyone else geeking out over the Spacex launch in 90 minutes or so, weather permitting? I was an avid fan of Apollo and this brings it all back. TV coverage began over 4 hours before the launch and I'm just lapping it up. I've found my inner 18 year old again.
What channel?
Over here pretty much any news channel plus Discovery
Has anyone done an analysis of the Remain/Leave-supporting status of the Tory MPs who've called for Cummings to go?
What for?
Brexit Tory MPs hate Cummings because he correctly identified that they were a load of useless idiotic tossers who would do their campaign more harm than good unless they were ruthlessly pushed aside.
Remainers hate Cummings for precisely the same reason.
All Tory MPs are Leave supporters. Kissing Johnson's ring and pledging support for his "oven ready deal" was a condition of them being reselected to stand.
Is anyone else geeking out over the Spacex launch in 90 minutes or so, weather permitting? I was an avid fan of Apollo and this brings it all back. TV coverage began over 4 hours before the launch and I'm just lapping it up. I've found my inner 18 year old again.
What channel?
Over here pretty much any news channel plus Discovery
Is anyone else geeking out over the Spacex launch in 90 minutes or so, weather permitting? I was an avid fan of Apollo and this brings it all back. TV coverage began over 4 hours before the launch and I'm just lapping it up. I've found my inner 18 year old again.
This is the first manned mission from US soil since the Shuttle right?
I'd forgotten that was taking place today. Shows how quickly space technology has developed in recent years that this isn't bigger news.
Is anyone else geeking out over the Spacex launch in 90 minutes or so, weather permitting? I was an avid fan of Apollo and this brings it all back. TV coverage began over 4 hours before the launch and I'm just lapping it up. I've found my inner 18 year old again.
What channel?
Over here pretty much any news channel plus Discovery
Is anyone else geeking out over the Spacex launch in 90 minutes or so, weather permitting? I was an avid fan of Apollo and this brings it all back. TV coverage began over 4 hours before the launch and I'm just lapping it up. I've found my inner 18 year old again.
This is the first manned mission from US soil since the Shuttle right?
I'd forgotten that was taking place today. Shows how quickly space technology has developed in recent years that this isn't bigger news.
Since 2011 yes. It's getting blanket coverage here
Is anyone else geeking out over the Spacex launch in 90 minutes or so, weather permitting? I was an avid fan of Apollo and this brings it all back. TV coverage began over 4 hours before the launch and I'm just lapping it up. I've found my inner 18 year old again.
What channel?
Over here pretty much any news channel plus Discovery
Is anyone else geeking out over the Spacex launch in 90 minutes or so, weather permitting? I was an avid fan of Apollo and this brings it all back. TV coverage began over 4 hours before the launch and I'm just lapping it up. I've found my inner 18 year old again.
What channel?
Over here pretty much any news channel plus Discovery
I'm going to watch.
Discovery coverage started 3 hours ago.
I have work to do, so will tune in in about 15 minutes time!
Is anyone else geeking out over the Spacex launch in 90 minutes or so, weather permitting? I was an avid fan of Apollo and this brings it all back. TV coverage began over 4 hours before the launch and I'm just lapping it up. I've found my inner 18 year old again.
Oh yes.The most important day for the USA's space program in years.
Is anyone else geeking out over the Spacex launch in 90 minutes or so, weather permitting? I was an avid fan of Apollo and this brings it all back. TV coverage began over 4 hours before the launch and I'm just lapping it up. I've found my inner 18 year old again.
What channel?
Over here pretty much any news channel plus Discovery
I'm going to watch.
Discovery coverage started 3 hours ago.
I have work to do, so will tune in in about 15 minutes time!
Oops, I think it's in about 85 minutes, not 15 mintues...
There are so many dead cats on the Cummings table that the legs have shattered.
Why isn’t this all in a clearly laid out step by step document with potential dates, broken down into clear phases which people understand. It comes over as if the UK hasn’t actually got a clue what it’s doing throwing out ideas in an uncoordinated way. What happened to the ‘r’ meter? Who’s in charge? What are the objectives?
IMO it's better to rely on David Paton's figures which are based on the number of deaths taking place on a particular day rather than the government figures which include people who died many days and even weeks ago.
I'm using those figures for analysis too - afraid the exponent has slipped, which indicates the halving time for the virus is now around 15 days rather than 14
893e-0.047x R² = 0.9879 since the peak.
If it's not too much trouble could you do the same exercise for each of the main English regions? It would be interesting to see if there's a big regional variance.
The odd thing about the government's response is that when they've done something its been pretty good.
But they've tended too often to lapse into doing nothing.
Which has been fatal, literally, as there's been a lack of dynamism throughout our institutions.
Yes, I think on the whole the Government were getting a fairly warm appraisal from the public and with some justification. It's turned now though, obviously.
Controversial opinion: I am surprised its not higher. Care homes have done a good job to keep it such a low proportion, I believe in many nations they're the majority of deaths and for good reason.
Our care home death numbers are surprisingly a (relatively) small fraction of our total deaths - in Europe it's a half or more, even 2/3 in Spain. Here it's less than a quarter.
The problem has been the wider death rate outside care homes. Our hospital numbers are horrendous.
They are. In my hospital 30% of our thousand odd Covid-19 admissions have died.
No one seems interested that our 111 policy of telling people with Covid-19 symptoms not to see a GP, Pharmacy or Hospital, but to go home and self medicate is not appropriate. We have the capacity to see and assess every suspect case now, unlike 2 months ago.
This disease is a major killer. We wouldn't tell people with other conditions of similar mortality to piss off and take hot broth.
There are so many dead cats on the Cummings table that the legs have shattered.
Why isn’t this all in a clearly laid out step by step document with potential dates, broken down into clear phases which people understand. It comes over as if the UK hasn’t actually got a clue what it’s doing throwing out ideas in an uncoordinated way. What happened to the ‘r’ meter? Who’s in charge? What are the objectives?
Maybe that's because they don't know what they're doing. Occam's. Razor.
Controversial opinion: I am surprised its not higher. Care homes have done a good job to keep it such a low proportion, I believe in many nations they're the majority of deaths and for good reason.
Our care home death numbers are surprisingly a (relatively) small fraction of our total deaths - in Europe it's a half or more, even 2/3 in Spain. Here it's less than a quarter.
The problem has been the wider death rate outside care homes. Our hospital numbers are horrendous.
They are. In my hospital 30% of our thousand odd Covid-19 admissions have died.
No one seems interested that our 111 policy of telling people with Covid-19 symptoms not to see a GP, Pharmacy or Hospital, but to go home and self medicate is not appropriate. We have the capacity to see and assess every suspect case now, unlike 2 months ago.
This disease is a major killer. We wouldn't tell people with other conditions of similar mortality to piss off and take hot broth.
Well it was raised in a thread header on here ......
Controversial opinion: I am surprised its not higher. Care homes have done a good job to keep it such a low proportion, I believe in many nations they're the majority of deaths and for good reason.
Our care home death numbers are surprisingly a (relatively) small fraction of our total deaths - in Europe it's a half or more, even 2/3 in Spain. Here it's less than a quarter.
The problem has been the wider death rate outside care homes. Our hospital numbers are horrendous.
They are. In my hospital 30% of our thousand odd Covid-19 admissions have died.
No one seems interested that our 111 policy of telling people with Covid-19 symptoms not to see a GP, Pharmacy or Hospital, but to go home and self medicate is not appropriate. We have the capacity to see and assess every suspect case now, unlike 2 months ago.
This disease is a major killer. We wouldn't tell people with other conditions of similar mortality to piss off and take hot broth.
The 'protect the NHS' slogan has been too successful.
Are you also seeing people with other problems not wanting to go to hospital out of fear of catching covid there ?
The odd thing about the government's response is that when they've done something its been pretty good.
But they've tended too often to lapse into doing nothing.
Which has been fatal, literally, as there's been a lack of dynamism throughout our institutions.
Yes, I think on the whole the Government were getting a fairly warm appraisal from the public and with some justification. It's turned now though, obviously.
Looking back the two organisations which have impressed me have been the supermarkets and, much to my surprise, the Treasury / HMRC with the furlough policy.
The interesting thing about Peny and The Saj breaking cover tonight is that they don't care about Cummings, they are already positioning for the post-BoZo world.
As Penny is still a minister, that's pretty ballsy...
Controversial opinion: I am surprised its not higher. Care homes have done a good job to keep it such a low proportion, I believe in many nations they're the majority of deaths and for good reason.
Our care home death numbers are surprisingly a (relatively) small fraction of our total deaths - in Europe it's a half or more, even 2/3 in Spain. Here it's less than a quarter.
The problem has been the wider death rate outside care homes. Our hospital numbers are horrendous.
They are. In my hospital 30% of our thousand odd Covid-19 admissions have died.
No one seems interested that our 111 policy of telling people with Covid-19 symptoms not to see a GP, Pharmacy or Hospital, but to go home and self medicate is not appropriate. We have the capacity to see and assess every suspect case now, unlike 2 months ago.
This disease is a major killer. We wouldn't tell people with other conditions of similar mortality to piss off and take hot broth.
As a layman Id imagined we would have made much more use of the combination of empty hotels and 1 million volunteers.
Couldnt we have used empty hotels for things like:
1) Self isolation for people who live with family but in a place not big enough to isolate from the rest of the family. Or those who just want to be more cautious about spreading it to their family. 2) Monitoring place for people who live on their own with covid in case their symptoms get worse rapidly 3) Staging post for people leaving hospital but before they re-enter society whether care home or normal life until they have been tested
even
4) place of refuge for families worried they may not be able to look after their children for those without family castles
The pretty pictures on your computer are not reality - nor are the electoral calculus projections.
You and the Correct Horse really should get a bloody room.
The rest of us will then be able to ignore pointless early-term polls in peace.
To be honest I wouldn’t miss the partisan posters from either side whilst they continue to just back the party line. Some original thought on the other hand...
Is anyone else geeking out over the Spacex launch in 90 minutes or so, weather permitting? I was an avid fan of Apollo and this brings it all back. TV coverage began over 4 hours before the launch and I'm just lapping it up. I've found my inner 18 year old again.
What channel?
Over here pretty much any news channel plus Discovery
'Motes and beams' get's your article read. Such a lovely phrase.
You're all for 'all wrong'. It can't be as such. This is true of this government as all others.
You say at the end of your piece
In the middle of a pandemic, we have reached the point where the government lacks any moral authority and any ability to communicate the reasons behind its decisions. Many of the most difficult decisions lie ahead. It is very difficult to see how the government can take them without any public confidence in it.
However it's not equally arguable to say
In the middle of a pandemic, with the PM having been disabled for a while, the Government has robustly functioned. Hard decisions lie ahead, but the public can take confidence in the good sense that the government has shown.
Can you really argue that your phrase is closer to the truth than mine?
IMO it's better to rely on David Paton's figures which are based on the number of deaths taking place on a particular day rather than the government figures which include people who died many days and even weeks ago.
I'm using those figures for analysis too - afraid the exponent has slipped, which indicates the halving time for the virus is now around 15 days rather than 14
893e-0.047x R² = 0.9879 since the peak.
If it's not too much trouble could you do the same exercise for each of the main English regions? It would be interesting to see if there's a big regional variance.
The rest of the country is much of a muchness but London definitely has the steepest curve, 10 day halving time.
y = 236e-0.071x R² = 0.9695 L y = 47.294e-0.057x R² = 0.7552 SW y = 111e-0.045x R² = 0.8865 E y = 109.61e-0.045x R² = 0.8985 SE y = 153.63e-0.043x R² = 0.9489 NW y = 154.24e-0.04x R² = 0.9447 M y = 122.77e-0.039x R² = 0.9291 NE/Y
Probably just catching up with the weekend reporting, although I will eat my trousers if there is no second wave.
If a second wave is expected later in the year then we should be removing restrictions now and building herd immunity.
How do you know that the second wave is not coming in three weeks, soon after the two Bank Holidays in May?
We don't but there doesn't appear to have been a second wave in other countries which have eased restrictions earlier.
Nor does there seem to be any increase in positive tests since the first bank holiday.
If it weren’t for the handful of small scale studies finding low levels of antibodies, you’d look at the data and conclude that significant proportions of the population now has either immunity or significant resistance.
It may be that a significant proportion of the population has innate immunity (at least to small viral loads) rather than acquired immunity - which is why there are low levels on antibodies in the population but sufficient levels of overall immunity (innate and acquired) to contain the virus.
Following on from the discussion on "Boris" Vs "Johnson", I was wondering whether there is anyone else in political life who uses one name in public and another in private? George Osborne changed his name but as far as I know his family and friends don't call him Gideon. It's a bit weird, no? And maybe a bit unsurprising that he has a rather distant relationship with the truth?
What drugs are you taking?
If his friends and family don't call him Gideon then why should the public call him Gideon?
There's something deeply nasty about this name shaming. Call people what they want to be called, its just basic respect.
You have completely misunderstood me. Point I was making was that weird to have one name in public and another in private, like "Boris". I was holding up Osborne as a counter-example, who had chosen to go by a different name uniformly not selectively. I have never referred to him as Gideon for the reason you give. No drugs taken.
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I'd forgotten that was taking place today. Shows how quickly space technology has developed in recent years that this isn't bigger news.
There are so many dead cats on the Cummings table that the legs have shattered.
I've criticised the government quite frequently, whenever I think its doing wrong. Its in the wrong here, so I'm content to attack it.
I'm not a blind partisan. I'm happy to call out mistakes.
Definitely off to the Isle of Wight next week, can stay in empty family property.
The odd thing about the government's response is that when they've done something its been pretty good.
But they've tended too often to lapse into doing nothing.
Which has been fatal, literally, as there's been a lack of dynamism throughout our institutions.
No one seems interested that our 111 policy of telling people with Covid-19 symptoms not to see a GP, Pharmacy or Hospital, but to go home and self medicate is not appropriate. We have the capacity to see and assess every suspect case now, unlike 2 months ago.
This disease is a major killer. We wouldn't tell people with other conditions of similar mortality to piss off and take hot broth.
Occam's. Razor.
https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/#public
Perhaps MPs might read and note and follow up.
Are you also seeing people with other problems not wanting to go to hospital out of fear of catching covid there ?
As Penny is still a minister, that's pretty ballsy...
The rest of us will then be able to ignore pointless early-term polls in peace.
Couldnt we have used empty hotels for things like:
1) Self isolation for people who live with family but in a place not big enough to isolate from the rest of the family. Or those who just want to be more cautious about spreading it to their family.
2) Monitoring place for people who live on their own with covid in case their symptoms get worse rapidly
3) Staging post for people leaving hospital but before they re-enter society whether care home or normal life until they have been tested
even
4) place of refuge for families worried they may not be able to look after their children for those without family castles
NEW THREAD
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rjb9FdVdX5I
@AlastairMeeks
'Motes and beams' get's your article read. Such a lovely phrase.
You're all for 'all wrong'. It can't be as such. This is true of this government as all others.
You say at the end of your piece
In the middle of a pandemic, we have reached the point where the government lacks any moral authority and any ability to communicate the reasons behind its decisions. Many of the most difficult decisions lie ahead. It is very difficult to see how the government can take them without any public confidence in it.
However it's not equally arguable to say
In the middle of a pandemic, with the PM having been disabled for a while, the Government has robustly functioned. Hard decisions lie ahead, but the public can take confidence in the good sense that the government has shown.
Can you really argue that your phrase is closer to the truth than mine?
y = 236e-0.071x R² = 0.9695 L
y = 47.294e-0.057x R² = 0.7552 SW
y = 111e-0.045x R² = 0.8865 E
y = 109.61e-0.045x R² = 0.8985 SE
y = 153.63e-0.043x R² = 0.9489 NW
y = 154.24e-0.04x R² = 0.9447 M
y = 122.77e-0.039x R² = 0.9291 NE/Y