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One of the great areas of the shutdown that is open to interpretation is what constitutes exercise – something that you are allowed to do alone or with a member of your household.
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Social distancing's never been an issue....
Banning exercise because other people are picnicking doesn't make sense to me.
I hope the government carefully considers the data as to whether the social distancing is working, and resists the calls from those in the press eager to exercise their natural love of finding individuals to blame.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/joe-biden-democratic-nominee-why.html
...This has been true all along—and perhaps mysteriously, it has worked to Biden’s advantage. While Sanders and Elizabeth Warren supporters were louder, had an enormous online footprint, and advanced arguments and issues that have changed the party, it was Biden voters who turned out in droves in the primary, despite their silence online. This has made the nominee’s victory feel confusing. It demands an explanation that common-sense theories about how political enthusiasm, exposure, and airtime should affect turnout cannot provide. Despite an apparent lack of enthusiastic adherents, an associated lack of funds, underwhelming debate performances, and no clear agenda, Biden floated to victory. The question is why—and can whatever powered him to the top do the same in the general?...
But I would be lying if I didn't admit that I am absolutely loving the temporary shut down of much of Britain both wholesale (which means fewer cars on the roads, cleaner air and clearer skies and a pleasing silence hanging over the countryside - or rather a replacement of man mad noise with the natural) and personal so I don't have to run all the clubs and societies I am involved with.
The best way I can describe it is like going on a really enjoyable party time bender. The drinking is fantastic, the music is fab and the company is unbelievable. But I know that when I wake up tomorrow morning I will be back in reality with one hell of a hangover, ringing in my ears and potentially a dose of a very antisocial disease
The two activities hardly seem complementary.
Glorious day and very uplifting to be outdoors....
But I am happy to stick with the lock down because I want to keep my health and I want others to keep theirs.
Very quiet out and social distancing was very good.
Walked past a park and again nearly deserted and no sun bathers.
Now - in less positive news....
I heard today from a doctor at local hospital that we are not near the peak they are expecting.
He reckons 1500 a day at peak and he says 50k overall is expectation
And that's if we carry on as we are ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA7bI26Y8uU
And it is the inconsistent behaviour of the Police and other authorities that is making this somewhat harder than it needs to be.
No-one should be going out to sit in the sun. But there are legitimate reasons why someone might need a rest whilst out exercising.
Similarly people should not be challenged for allowing their children to play in their own garden.
There is a lot at stake. But unless policing is absolutely consistent, then people will continue to lose patience with the instructions.
Or is this not a problem in their scheme of things?
I do. I dislike the 10 Commandments.
People tend to interpret the 10 Commandments in a way that suits them. Or associate it with just the later ones which should be bloody obvious and part of any other moral code too.
I disagree with the First, Second, Third, Fourth and Tenth Commandments. That's half of them.
I consider the Fifth to Ninth to be basic common decency.
Its A Melvyn Bragg programme about Willam Tynedale who secretly translated the Bible from Latin to English to enable the masses to read it and was put to death at the stake as a result.
Per head the Netherlands and Belgium are also seeing higher increases in death rates than the UK
But he was pretty awesome. Apart from all the translations and religious stuff, he was from Gloucestershire.
It appears to me that city dwellers are faced with a greater challenge; one that still needs a more disciplined response than is happening. I've lived in cities, it's great because you live closer to things and so on. This is a time when it's a problem, though and in this, at least, the Blitz comparisons seem to hold some weight. The arguments about 'we have to go out because we need space....' etc, appear to be missing the inevitable. continuing to do so multiplies the risk to those living there. It's no wonder some are trying to sneak out to holiday homes and such (so spreading/increasing the risk).
Around here compliance has been good to excellent. It may help that being an ex-mining area we have hundreds of acres of country park adjacent to the town in most directions.
Something best handled by local authorities and local police.
Media panics can take a hike.
So are we bending the curve in the U.K yet?
On topic, I think people generally want clarity. If we're told that X is risky for ourselves and others, we won't do it, and will potentially tick off others or even alert the police if they insist on doing it. But if X is maybe undesirable, but we're not sure, then it all becomes irksome.
I get that AndyJS would rather that everyone would voluntarily be sensible wso no policing was needed. That would be nice, but realistically x% will break the rules, and the 100-x% who were following them are entitled to feel annoyed.
https://i.redd.it/k6s8zp5o6wr41.jpg
The idea that a commandment not to covet your neighbours slaves is part of what underpins modern ethics is utterly facetious. Endorsing slavery certainly doesn't underpin mine.
My household is precisely 2 people and a dog...not even a proper dog, a walking accessory called Trotsky.. though she is much loved....
Joggers are spluttering, coughing, wheezing and panting as they heave past you not respecting your space...ban them, ban them now, and ban them forever....and if they carry on, lock them up and put them in that sex offenders prison...
The government should provide each household with a cross trainer/treadmill/exercise bike so there’ll be no need to go out for exercise.
https://reason.com/2020/04/09/preliminary-german-study-shows-a-covid-19-infection-fatality-rate-of-about-0-4-percent/
Lots of caveats, it was a big but not massive study, in a German town where everybody has been tested to see hf they have had the virus. 15% of the town has got or has had the virus, so it may change as more people got it, but still a lot lower than had previously been suspected.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/b1VcI_Io9pM/hqdefault.jpg
EDIT: How can I make photos visible?
Paul Cosford, the agency’s emeritus medical director, said that easing the lockdown for the young first was being considered as ministers look to set out an exit plan for the coming weeks." (£)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-lockdown-schools-could-reopen-within-weeks-gcnkhgnkd
The cold machinery of the law could not be stopped. Tyndale was condemned as a heretic early in August 1536, and probably the same day suffered the public, and ceremonial, degradation from the priesthood: the record of payments to Dufief shows the cost of arranging the elaborate ritual. A greater assembly was summoned for a morning early in October (traditionally the 6th) when in an open space outside Vilvorde Castle a stake, brushwood, and logs were prepared. Tyndale was brought out. A chain was placed round his neck. He gave the cry that Foxe records, 'Lord, open the king of England's eyes' (Foxe, ed. Pratt, 5.127). Tyndale was not burnt alive: as a mark of his distinction as a scholar, he was strangled first, and then his body was burnt.
David Daniell, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
If I want to when I'm driving I don't stay in the same lane as the vehicle I'm overtaking.
The pavement should be reserved for children, pets and adults walking only during this pandemic.
Perhaps regions might start initially....where there is evidence of no community transmission...
Or using technology...like an App
You have to make people feel safe before they venture back out....
I don't miss the near 2 hour commute or the processed ready meals. I'm sleeping better, eating better and losing some of the weight my lifestyle has helped me to add. There's of course the residual anxiety of infection but life is adapting to the new regimen of more hand washing and greater care.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-social-distancing-walking-running-cyclists-advice-a9457431.html
If joggers only run on roads then its cars that are in their slipstream and they ought to be more than 2 metres apart!
One of the big problems we have in the UK is that the authorities think that cyclists should be encouraged to cycle on pavements through shared pathways, rather than make proper investment in proper segregated infrastructure.
Round here all the defined cycle paths seem to have anticycling pinch points on them. There are literally hundreds of them just in my LA area.
They demand the right to go where they like, when they like and in whatever way they like. They don't care about pavements, having appropriate lights/protective equipment. They love to use their phones whilst cycling.
And everything that happens to them is the fault of the evil car drivers. Not their own negligence and arrogance.
Personally I believe all cyclists should have to pass a basic proficiency test and be required to have insurance.
If they want enhanced provision for cycling then that should come at the price of actually having to abide by basic rules. Far too many of them would find that a huge struggle.
Tell me how that one works?
You try to make the best of a crap situation in the best way you can I guess.
I am now doing 2 separate bags for friends self isolating with symptoms....I had some eggs changed because 1 had broken..the shop assistant sneezed on my eggs when he was returning with a new box..and I put that in my friend's bag...
I'm just getting that one off my chest....
EDIT: Success! Okay, I've got this now.
At this stage there is no hope or point in containing it, a vaccine is 14 months off if not more. its just a case of does it stop when we have a critical mass (61%) of people who have infected, removed and immune.
do we want that 61% spreed evenly across the age range or higher in the age range best able to resist it (Yong people) and therefor lower in the older and more vonrable are range?
Seems a fair and balanced proposal to me.