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The Standard is reporting a new study by Kings College London and Ipsos-MORI on how the public is coping with the lockdown restrictions. Overall there was strong, 89%, backing but a numbers of possible health issues were highlighted. In particular the study found:
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(For clarity that was meant to be Scottie from Star Trek. Not an excuse for anyone to wobble on about Hannibal).
For some reason this brought to mind Victoria Wood's market researcher, asking people "in the event of a nuclear holocaust will you be more likely or less likely to be using Hellmann's mayonnaise?
That seems a weird finding. Why that particular phrasing?
Where are @TSE and an Oxford comma when you need them?
My pension pot has taken a hit but retirement is far enough away for that to not feel so real. And there might be redundancies but hopefully not me.
Mr. York, when it comes to discussing Hannibal: we will find a way, or make one.
I haven't been drinking more alcohol because I gave up booze for Lent (I've had a couple of lapses but so far I've been pretty good) But I am really looking forward to a g+t pre-Sunday lunch. Preferably in the garden but the weather forecast doesn't look too brilliant.
https://twitter.com/ElectProject/status/1248415752807272455?s=19
https://twitter.com/KevinCate/status/1248365705503932420?s=19
https://twitter.com/nazshahbfd/status/1248303093344763904?s=21
(a) exercise more
(b) spend less
(c) drink less
(d) eat better
I've got ca. 3-4 hours extra a day, (b) and (c) are inter-related because pubs and restaurants are closed and as I've got to cook, I might as well make the most of it.
A decent chunk of my mates have approached the shutdown in the same way.
On the other: such effects, as reported in the data above, were always going to happen. There will be a point where they may get too much for some people.
Plus ca change ...
I can only see two sustainable ways out:
1) For restrictions to be loosened/tightened according to NHS capacity. That means we will have lots more deaths, but gradually build up herd immunity.
2) A vaccine, offering a relatively quick route to herd immunity, but we won't be seeing that until 2021 at the latest.
Of course, there are other potential outcomes, such as people don't get long-term immunity from having the virus (very bad); or it does give immunity and there are far more asymptomatic cases than we thought (very good).
From a personal perspective, my wife and I have broadly accepted that the lockdown is for the long-haul and so are planning accordingly with deliveries. Having a 3 week old baby means we're erring on the side of caution and avoiding physical shops as much as possible.
(Has this been done? I’ll get my coat)
First mis-step.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36802075
Don't want to discourage him, but should we?
See Question Time last night when the epidemiologist was asked what was required for the lockdown to be lifted, and he did not answer the question. The doctors are running the country, and the elected politicians are taking orders from them. If this continues and no vaccine is found the lockdown could last more than 50 years.
"the doctrine that the conduct of human beings expresses personal choice and is not simply determined by physical or divine forces."
So, are we, to some extent at least, responsible for the state of things, or shall we be merry for some day we will die?
If is he is sensible, which he appears to be, doing things on a case by case basis would be a more effective approach. Showing mercy to the repentant would also be part of this.
I did it... like your thinking 👍🏻
Traffic is virtually non-existent in my little town of Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, and I notice that even those cars on the road are travelling much slower than usual. Anyone else noticing this?
I haven't been on the motorway since it all started but my guess is that even there people are sticking to the limits. Observations anyone?
OKC/Jenrick - in my opinion both are fine and compatible with the guidance, so long as the chat with you is more than 2m away, OKC. The Mail#sheadline about Jenrick is disgustingly irreesponsible, implying that the lockdown is a two-faced politician's whim (and therefore by implication that it's OK to break it).
Naz Shah - the Jewish community accepted her apology as sincere and there hasn't been a recurrence. We recognise that people can slip up sometimes - if they're genuinely apologetic, take action to prevent recurrence (she volunteered for training) and don't repeat the offence, forgiveness is appropriate.
My point of view is that we probably do not have Free Will, but that people like to believe that they do, and so act accordingly. They then interpret their predestined actions as acts of Free Will.
Perhaps if @Dura_Ace were to explain his driveway antics to Mrs DA in this way she would forgive him. Or possibly hit him with the rolling pin, depending on what she was predestined to do...
THE BLACK SALTIRE#FBSI
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Hearing that none of the SNP Mps took the £10,000 offered to them for working at home. Jeremy Corbyn also refused.
The Only Tory not to take it was surprisingly Jacob Rees Mogg
Thank you to my source I am sure this will clarified shortly
Certainly not someone who should be getting promoted. And to put an antisemite in charge of "community cohesion" is adding salt to the wound.
Starmer should be trying to be cleaner than clean on this topic until a line is drawn under the sand and can move on. Not start by promoting one of those whose name is associated with the problem.
*on a bridge.
22 here today, 25 tmrw, 22 Sunday... 11 Monday & Tuesday
So the virus will continue to spread, making it impossible to lift the lockdown, and so on. I can see it rumbling on like that for a few months, and it seems feasible we could get to herd immunity in some places (e.g. inner London) and in some sections of the population.
This site after all tends to filter towards those who analyse a situation and optimise the outcome. Even against their feelings.
To a non-trivial portion of the population, this kind of behaviour is wrong. Evil even. Evidence that you are a "Clinical Psychopath" - to use a popular, ridiculous, bar-room diagnosis.
I recall a discussion of the Cold Equations with a disparate group. To a number, adapting to the situation - optimising the outcome to save the maximum number of lives - was an evil decision. They concentrated on the horror of having to make a decision at all - and refused to make a choice.
A while back, on TV, there was a war-gaming of terrorist incident(s) in London, with various popular figures playing the government. What was interesting was the number who refused to make decisions, for similar reasons.
Having to do meal planning to reduce the shopping visits. Used to shopping for the next meal.
Lucky to have a good marriage. One of the few upsides of this virus has been the enforced time and proximity with loved ones. Feel for those in poor or abusive relationships. It must be grim.
Labour is riddled with a disease from top to bottom.
He has to at least make a pretence at unity, so he appoints one of the dumber Corbynites to a role where she has to behave herself. When (inevitably) she says something racist and anti-semitic, he can make great play of sacking her, showing his tough side, and taking down one of the enemy foot soldiers.
The prediction part is itself... complex... trends and features at some levels can be predicted.
Human beliefs and structured personalities can be seen as an attempt to bring order to the chaos of the universe - a set of rules. But who actually follows their personal rules all the time?
Religious extremism and political totalitarian ideologies are of interest when examined with this is mind.
Financially, I am down on income as the private hospital has been requisitioned by the NHS, and Fox Jr has no income and is not eligible for government schemes, so back on the household payroll. Spending is down as not much to spend on other than groceries. Investments doing well as I went to 90% cash in early Feb, and now about 40% cash, having bought the dip. Mostly cash rich companies that are resilient to recession.
More time on my hands when not at work, eating well, reading and gardening in the sun. Spending several days a week at the hospital is good for morale as great atmosphere of purpose in the main. Some grim news and sights there, and of course there is the occupational microbial risk, but that just makes me enjoy the small pleasures of life all the more.
If we rule out herd immunity as a strategy, which we seem to have, then the only logical alternative is lockdown in perpetuity (with slight relaxing and tightening over time) until a vaccine can be found and manufactured in scale on a global basis.
I think a lot of people are seeing Italy/Spain reach the peak and drawing the conclusion that it's nearly over for them, and we're only 2 weeks behind, so it will be back to normal in a month or so. Whereas I don't see a feasible route for us going back to a normal society for at least a year.
Maybe steps like mass antibody testing and compulsory mask wearing (once enough are available) can bring us closer to something that resembles normality, but I've become quite pessimistic of late.
The idea that all Tories except JRM have taken it though - and that the only person who knows this before expense claims are put in or published is Black Saltire's anonymous source?
Bovine manure.
If so they will already have been remote working and here will have been less need to adapt their processes.
But why share anonymous garbage like every single one bar JRM have claimed the full £10k? It's nonsense and you know it.
UK Government has put out a plea for help through NATO and Germany is sending 60 mobile ventilators immediately. #COVID19
The Dyson Ventilators are still some way off apparently
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If SNP MPs aren't planning on using the money then I guess they aren't planning on doing any work for their constituents during this period. Probably makes sense as most day to day matters are devolved to the Scottish parliament, so individuals in a Scottish constituency will be contacting their MSP first rather than MP.
In contrast, where I am in Dubai, we have a full curfew in place, permission needed to go grocery shopping and every speed camera is set low to record number plates. No speeding here.
Doesn't really surprise me about the Dyson ventilators, the Gov't should kiss G-tech's arse and buy theirs as a stop gap.
Sir Edric and the Vampire Lord
“So, let me get this right,” Sir Edric said to the visiting priest. “You’re being terrorised by a giant albino lagomorph that appears at the same time every year? And you want me to kill the aforementioned magical vermin?”
Dog coughed. “Actually, sir, it sounds like the Easter Bunny is more of a benevolent spirit.”
“Indeed,” Father Michael agreed. “He’s more of a fun character for children. The real message of Easter is about Jesus-”
“He’s the vampire, yes?”
Father Michael sighed. “No, Sir Edric. He is the Son of God-”
“I thought you said he was a carpenter?”
The priest cast his eyes to the heavens and mouthed a silent prayer. “Jesus was the Son of God. He was killed and lay for three days before rising from the dead, when he spoke again to his followers and then passed from our sight.”
Sir Edric nodded knowingly. “Definitely a vampire. So, you want me to kill Jesus?”
Father Michael was silent for a moment, clenching his jaw so hard his muscles bulged. “No, Sir Edric. I do not want you to kill Jesus. Or the Easter Bunny. I’m simply here to spread the message of Our Lord, to speak of his rising from the dead and the triumph of hope over despair, of life everlasting and-”
Sir Edric raised a hand to cut off the priest’s prattling. “That’s riveting. So, beyond preaching, is there any reason you’re here?”
The priest sighed again, and raised a large basket he was carrying. “I’ve also brought a large number of Easter eggs for the children of Awyndel.”
The knight frowned. “What do eggs have to do with vampires?”
Father Michael took a moment to answer. “It’s just a fun tradition to give one another, especially children, chocolate eggs to eat at this time of year.”
“What a splendid notion,” Sir Edric agreed. “Dog and I were just on our way to the orphanage. Why don’t we take your eggs with us?”
“I wouldn’t want to trouble you-”
Sir Edric beamed a smile. “No trouble at all, Father Michael. I shall be sure to help spread the word of the vampire lord Jesus and his infernal albino rabbit beast. Dog shall see you out.”
Once his manservant had escorted the cleric from his home, Sir Edric began to tuck into the huge quantity of Easter eggs. In the spirit of the occasion he selected one of the smaller ones for Dog and raised a glass of wine in a toast.
“Huzzah for Jesus, the undead master of the dread rabbit!”
"In most states across the country, data show that most of those who have tested positive for the virus are women. From the Deep South to New England states and the Midwest, most states have confirmed hundreds if not thousands more cases in women than in men, with a few notable exceptions.
But in states that report the genders of those who have died from the COVID-19 disease, every one has reported more deaths among men than among women, usually by a substantial margin — and scientists don't know why."