I ended up slightly red on Starmer, but I can live with that, now that we have the chance of an Opposition.
I'm green on Labour Leader, deputy leader and Corbyn exiting 2Q 2020. I'm waiting for the Irish Government to be confirmed where I'm on a FF/FG coalition. I'll lose it all if Trump is re-elected. Green otherwise.
Can I say HYUFD that I amongst others have criticised you for your unequivocal support for Boris. However you clearly understand the need for effective opposition and have banged the drum for Starmer on PB since the general election.
Fair enough. I don't think a one-off silence when phrased in that way is a bad idea. Especially for the front line workers who have lost their lives in the course of saving others. I just don't want it to become another example of poppy-ism, as I fear the clap for carers is becoming as it becomes a regular thing.
The question remains though, is when will this be over, in any meaningful sense? At what point do you, in the manner of George W Bush, unfurl the giant "mission accomplished" banner and declare job done?
This looks unhappily like it will rumble on for months and probably even years, at a lower level.
I also think the experience of developing countries will make what we are going through look like a picnic.
I fear you are right. The big question now is how do we ease the lock-down without a new surge in cases?
There are ominous signs from Singapore a premature easing can be disastrous. That said, public support for "health before wealth" is currently overwhelming but won't always remain as such. I certainly think travel beyond the UK will remain heavily restricted for the foreseeable.
I think this is going to be the real test for Government and for all of us and I don't see many easy options.
That acceptance speech reinforces my scepticism about the "forensic skewering of Boris" theory. That is not what a forensic skewerer sounds like. Mogadon Man.
Perhaps Starmer's task is to become Neil Kinnock and clear out the nutters for the next Tony Blair?
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
I thought Keir’s speech was very good, but it’s clear I’m in the minority on that front. I think Labour made the right choice to elect him.
It sounds Ok to me. Perhaps he’s speaking a bit slowly. At least he has a good clear voice, which is half the battle.
Edit - I have to say he comes across as a much better speaker than Johnson.
If the worst thing about an acceptance speech is that he talked a bit slowly, then that is high praise. Remember that Margret Thatcher had voice training after becoming LOTO.
The election of Starmer and Rayner in normal times would have been a huge event with live coverage and no doubt lots of enthusiasm and interviews to camera
Today has been such a low key event because of covid 19 it will hardly register in the wider public and that is unfortunate
Sky News made a show of the result. The Ministry of Propoganda on the other hand didn't really make the effort.
Can I say HYUFD that I amongst others have criticised you for your unequivocal support for Boris. However you clearly understand the need for effective opposition and have banged the drum for Starmer on PB since the general election.
Agree wholeheartedly with this. I can envisage no circumstance where I would vote for Labour but I do want them to be an effective opposition holding the Government to account. That means they have to be viable as a Government themselves. Corbyn in my opinion never got close to that in reality. I don't think either RLB or Nandy would either. Starmer does. He won't get my vote but at the same time I don't think the prospect of him as PM would terrify me.
The election of Starmer and Rayner in normal times would have been a huge event with live coverage and no doubt lots of enthusiasm and interviews to camera
Today has been such a low key event because of covid 19 it will hardly register in the wider public and that is unfortunate
Sky News made a show of the result. The Ministry of Propoganda on the other hand didn't really make the effort.
Fron the Guardian: "Momentum, the Labour organisation for Jeremy Corbyn supporters, has put out a statement saying that it intends to hold Sir Keir Starmer to account and that he should appoint a “broad” shadow cabinet (ie, one that includes members of the Corbynite left)."
Fair enough. I don't think a one-off silence when phrased in that way is a bad idea. Especially for the front line workers who have lost their lives in the course of saving others. I just don't want it to become another example of poppy-ism, as I fear the clap for carers is becoming as it becomes a regular thing.
The question remains though, is when will this be over, in any meaningful sense? At what point do you, in the manner of George W Bush, unfurl the giant "mission accomplished" banner and declare job done?
This looks unhappily like it will rumble on for months and probably even years, at a lower level.
I also think the experience of developing countries will make what we are going through look like a picnic.
I fear you are right. The big question now is how do we ease the lock-down without a new surge in cases?
There are ominous signs from Singapore a premature easing can be disastrous. That said, public support for "health before wealth" is currently overwhelming but won't always remain as such. I certainly think travel beyond the UK will remain heavily restricted for the foreseeable.
I think this is going to be the real test for Government and for all of us and I don't see many easy options.
My fear at the moment based on conversations is that we need to be tightening the lockdown not even talking about eventually easing it.
The election of Starmer and Rayner in normal times would have been a huge event with live coverage and no doubt lots of enthusiasm and interviews to camera
Today has been such a low key event because of covid 19 it will hardly register in the wider public and that is unfortunate
IDS faced the same problem when he was elected Tory leader after 9/11. However it is how Starmer performs in the months and years ahead that matters, not really how much publicity his election gets today
The election of Starmer and Rayner in normal times would have been a huge event with live coverage and no doubt lots of enthusiasm and interviews to camera
Today has been such a low key event because of covid 19 it will hardly register in the wider public and that is unfortunate
Sky News made a show of the result. The Ministry of Propoganda on the other hand didn't really make the effort.
I am sure you see my point though
I do, and it should be that way under current circumstances. In with a whimper, out with a bang, maybe?
I thought Keir’s speech was very good, but it’s clear I’m in the minority on that front. I think Labour made the right choice to elect him.
It sounds Ok to me. Perhaps he’s speaking a bit slowly. At least he has a good clear voice, which is half the battle.
Edit - I have to say he comes across as a much better speaker than Johnson.
If the worst thing about an acceptance speech is that he talked a bit slowly, then that is high praise. Remember that Margret Thatcher had voice training after becoming LOTO.
The election of Starmer and Rayner in normal times would have been a huge event with live coverage and no doubt lots of enthusiasm and interviews to camera
Today has been such a low key event because of covid 19 it will hardly register in the wider public and that is unfortunate
IDS faced the same problem when he was elected Tory leader after 9/11. However it is how Starmer performs in the months and years ahead that matters, not really how much publicity his election gets today
There are ominous signs from Singapore a premature easing can be disastrous.
Japan also. The hard thing is that if you ease one thing, even if that thing isn't in itself harmful, you risk everybody taking it to mean the crisis is over and easing everything else.
The election of Starmer and Rayner in normal times would have been a huge event with live coverage and no doubt lots of enthusiasm and interviews to camera
Today has been such a low key event because of covid 19 it will hardly register in the wider public and that is unfortunate
IDS faced the same problem when he was elected Tory leader after 9/11. However it is how Starmer performs in the months and years ahead that matters, not really how much publicity his election gets today
Can I say HYUFD that I amongst others have criticised you for your unequivocal support for Boris. However you clearly understand the need for effective opposition and have banged the drum for Starmer on PB since the general election.
Thankyou, I certainly think he can provide a better opposition to the government than Corbyn did, tgough I remain loyal to Boris of course
I thought Keir’s speech was very good, but it’s clear I’m in the minority on that front. I think Labour made the right choice to elect him.
It sounds Ok to me. Perhaps he’s speaking a bit slowly. At least he has a good clear voice, which is half the battle.
Edit - I have to say he comes across as a much better speaker than Johnson.
If the worst thing about an acceptance speech is that he talked a bit slowly, then that is high praise. Remember that Margret Thatcher had voice training after becoming LOTO.
Didn’t Cameron say he had a five point plan to get the Tories into government and then listed just four points?
Fair enough. I don't think a one-off silence when phrased in that way is a bad idea. Especially for the front line workers who have lost their lives in the course of saving others. I just don't want it to become another example of poppy-ism, as I fear the clap for carers is becoming as it becomes a regular thing.
The question remains though, is when will this be over, in any meaningful sense? At what point do you, in the manner of George W Bush, unfurl the giant "mission accomplished" banner and declare job done?
This looks unhappily like it will rumble on for months and probably even years, at a lower level.
I also think the experience of developing countries will make what we are going through look like a picnic.
I fear you are right. The big question now is how do we ease the lock-down without a new surge in cases?
There are ominous signs from Singapore a premature easing can be disastrous. That said, public support for "health before wealth" is currently overwhelming but won't always remain as such. I certainly think travel beyond the UK will remain heavily restricted for the foreseeable.
I think this is going to be the real test for Government and for all of us and I don't see many easy options.
My fear at the moment based on conversations is that we need to be tightening the lockdown not even talking about eventually easing it.
Fron the Guardian: "Momentum, the Labour organisation for Jeremy Corbyn supporters, has put out a statement saying that it intends to hold Sir Keir Starmer to account and that he should appoint a “broad” shadow cabinet (ie, one that includes members of the Corbynite left)."
Can someone hear a blackened pot?
Dare I make a joke about Formby, Murphy and a shadow cabinet of broads?
Can I say HYUFD that I amongst others have criticised you for your unequivocal support for Boris. However you clearly understand the need for effective opposition and have banged the drum for Starmer on PB since the general election.
Thankyou, I certainly think he can provide a better opposition to the government than Corbyn did, tgough I remain loyal to Boris of course
Indeed you should. But if Boris cocks-up big time, you at least now have somewhere sensible to go! (Hopefully!)
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
Fair enough. I don't think a one-off silence when phrased in that way is a bad idea. Especially for the front line workers who have lost their lives in the course of saving others. I just don't want it to become another example of poppy-ism, as I fear the clap for carers is becoming as it becomes a regular thing.
The question remains though, is when will this be over, in any meaningful sense? At what point do you, in the manner of George W Bush, unfurl the giant "mission accomplished" banner and declare job done?
This looks unhappily like it will rumble on for months and probably even years, at a lower level.
I also think the experience of developing countries will make what we are going through look like a picnic.
I fear you are right. The big question now is how do we ease the lock-down without a new surge in cases?
There are ominous signs from Singapore a premature easing can be disastrous. That said, public support for "health before wealth" is currently overwhelming but won't always remain as such. I certainly think travel beyond the UK will remain heavily restricted for the foreseeable.
I think this is going to be the real test for Government and for all of us and I don't see many easy options.
Many years ago, when my partner left me, I took it badly and I took to the bottle pretty hard.
A friend who was concerned about me asked me when I was going to stop. I said I'd stop when the consequences of being drunk all the time started to outweigh the pain I felt when I sobered up.
It took about three months, all in all. A month of holding it together. A month of being pretty ragged round the edges. Then a month of waking up with chest pains, people around me having to make excuses for me, etc. That was when I stopped.
I fear our lockdown will follow a similar curve.
Right now, the country is pretty much holding it together. But as the economic consequences become greater, businesses go to the wall, homes get repossessed, etc, at some point we are all just going to have to learn to live with the pain.
Lockdown is not a long term viable option, because the economic consequences will follow an exponential curve too. The boffins need to figure out a way to get us moving again, while minimising new infections and deaths. There will be pain. But there is no other way.
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
I am assuming we will be left with comparing death rates this year with those from previous years to get some idea of the real numbers. In Bergamo their numbers of deaths for March are six times those of the same time last year.
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
Where is this? Leicester, presumably, in your case, but I thought @Richard_Tyndall lived in Shetland?
Can I say HYUFD that I amongst others have criticised you for your unequivocal support for Boris. However you clearly understand the need for effective opposition and have banged the drum for Starmer on PB since the general election.
Thankyou, I certainly think he can provide a better opposition to the government than Corbyn did, tgough I remain loyal to Boris of course
Indeed you should. But if Boris cocks-up big time, you at least now have somewhere sensible to go! (Hopefully!)
I stuck with the Tories even in 1997 and 2001, trust me I am not the swing voter you need to convince
Dyson products are some of the worst I’ve ever encountered. Expensive, badly designed and break down. How he got his reputation is a mystery. G-tech are not much better either.
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
I am assuming we will be left with comparing death rates this year with those from previous years to get some idea of the real numbers. In Bergamo their numbers of deaths for March are six times those of the same time last year.
Yes, though it will be a mix of undiagnosed COVID19 mortality and other conditions whose usual care was disrupted.
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
Where is this? Leicester, presumably, in your case, but I thought @Richard_Tyndall lived in Shetland?
Can I say HYUFD that I amongst others have criticised you for your unequivocal support for Boris. However you clearly understand the need for effective opposition and have banged the drum for Starmer on PB since the general election.
Thankyou, I certainly think he can provide a better opposition to the government than Corbyn did, tgough I remain loyal to Boris of course
Indeed you should. But if Boris cocks-up big time, you at least now have somewhere sensible to go! (Hopefully!)
I stuck with the Tories even in 1997 and 2001, trust me I am not the swing voter you need to convince
I thought I was Labour 'til I die. And then along came Jeremy!
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
Where is this? Leicester, presumably, in your case, but I thought @Richard_Tyndall lived in Shetland?
Deaths in the community? So people who are so ill they die but are not being placed into hospital? Does this mean those who were near end of life and have DNR etc etc? Or is it people dying so fast they don't make hospital?
Can I say HYUFD that I amongst others have criticised you for your unequivocal support for Boris. However you clearly understand the need for effective opposition and have banged the drum for Starmer on PB since the general election.
Thankyou, I certainly think he can provide a better opposition to the government than Corbyn did, tgough I remain loyal to Boris of course
Indeed you should. But if Boris cocks-up big time, you at least now have somewhere sensible to go! (Hopefully!)
I stuck with the Tories even in 1997 and 2001, trust me I am not the swing voter you need to convince
I thought I was Labour 'til I die. And then along came Jeremy!
I am also chairman of Epping and Theydon Bois Conservatives, Jeremy just made the job easier
Dyson products are some of the worst I’ve ever encountered. Expensive, badly designed and break down. How he got his reputation is a mystery. G-tech are not much better either.
I have to say, I have a Dyson and it’s great. Very efficient at hoovering, particularly dust. Expensive, but it was worth it.
An outbreak of coronavirus at a care home in Glasgow has killed 13 residents, Patrick Sawer reports.
The deaths at the Burlington Court Care Home, which looks after up to 90 residents with complex medical needs, all took place in the past seven days.
Two members of staff are also being treated for the disease.
Visits to the care home, run by the Four Seasons Health Care group, had been suspended as part of measures to protect residents, who suffer from ongoing medical conditions such as Huntington’s and Parkinson’s Disease.
The only exceptions remain for essential medical visits or for exceptional circumstances agreed in advance.
All 13 fatalities at the care home have been linked to COVID-19, confirmed Four Seasons Health Care.
A spokesperson for the group said: "With deep sadness we can confirm that 13 residents have passed away over the past seven days. The focus is the ongoing care and protection of all our residents and our colleagues.”
The Care Inspectorate said: “Our thoughts are with the loved ones of those affected.”
Good news on the NEC, but still a lot of work to do. Corbyn's gone, but Corbynism will linger and could return if it isn't rooted out swiftly, and thoroughly.
Can I say HYUFD that I amongst others have criticised you for your unequivocal support for Boris. However you clearly understand the need for effective opposition and have banged the drum for Starmer on PB since the general election.
Thankyou, I certainly think he can provide a better opposition to the government than Corbyn did, tgough I remain loyal to Boris of course
Indeed you should. But if Boris cocks-up big time, you at least now have somewhere sensible to go! (Hopefully!)
I stuck with the Tories even in 1997 and 2001, trust me I am not the swing voter you need to convince
I thought I was Labour 'til I die. And then along came Jeremy!
I am also chairman of Epping and Theydon Bois Conservatives, Jeremy just made the job easier
Umuna was 'the next Leader of the Labour Party'. It didn't stop him leaving because of a dire anti-semitic leader with Soviet-era policies. Although I suspect I am ****ing in the wind on this one!
Dyson products are some of the worst I’ve ever encountered. Expensive, badly designed and break down. How he got his reputation is a mystery. G-tech are not much better either.
I have to say, I have a Dyson and it’s great. Very efficient at hoovering, particularly dust. Expensive, but it was worth it.
Henries are pretty good at 1/4 the price - and I have never come across anyone who hoovers for a living who uses anything else.
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
Where is this? Leicester, presumably, in your case, but I thought @Richard_Tyndall lived in Shetland?
Newark I think.
Yes, just grapevine from GP friends.
I am not hearing the same here in the West Midlands. But that may just be because I’m not talking to the right people.
Certainly there are issues around hospital care (my friend and her baby). But so far I’ve heard no whisper of high mortality rates in the community.
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
Where is this? Leicester, presumably, in your case, but I thought @Richard_Tyndall lived in Shetland?
Lincolnshire. The local GPs has now set up a system whereby if a patient does not renew their prescription it sets of an alarm and they contact the local authorities or the police to check if they are still alive.
I was delivering notes around the village yesterday letting people know about the contact system we have if they are self isolating and need help/shopping/ a chat etc. We are concentrating at the moment on those streets with high concentrations of bungalows and older residents. It was worrying that there were a number of houses where it was clear that no one had taken in their post for several days. It could be for any number of reasons of course but with the conversations today it does have me wondering.
Dyson products are some of the worst I’ve ever encountered. Expensive, badly designed and break down. How he got his reputation is a mystery. G-tech are not much better either.
I have to say, I have a Dyson and it’s great. Very efficient at hoovering, particularly dust. Expensive, but it was worth it.
Henries are pretty good at 1/4 the price - and I have never come across anyone who hoovers for a living who uses anything else.
Good news on the NEC, but still a lot of work to do. Corbyn's gone, but Corbynism will linger and could return if it isn't rooted out swiftly, and thoroughly.
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
Where is this? Leicester, presumably, in your case, but I thought @Richard_Tyndall lived in Shetland?
Deaths in the community? So people who are so ill they die but are not being placed into hospital? Does this mean those who were near end of life and have DNR etc etc? Or is it people dying so fast they don't make hospital?
Nursing homes have pretty much been told not to send people to hospital
That and Sanders getting thrashed in the primaries by a man who would lose a debate with a leaf blower...
I’m not sure Biden can beat Trump. I think it’s clear his cognitive abilities are not what they were in 2016, and I can see Trump going below the belt on that front in the debates.
There are ominous signs from Singapore a premature easing can be disastrous.
Japan also. The hard thing is that if you ease one thing, even if that thing isn't in itself harmful, you risk everybody taking it to mean the crisis is over and easing everything else.
China also began lifting restrictions and are now back peddling as cases begin to expand again
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
Where is this? Leicester, presumably, in your case, but I thought @Richard_Tyndall lived in Shetland?
Lincolnshire. The local GPs has now set up a system whereby if a patient does not renew their prescription it sets of an alarm and they contact the local authorities or the police to check if they are still alive.
I was delivering notes around the village yesterday letting people know about the contact system we have if they are self isolating and need help/shopping/ a chat etc. We are concentrating at the moment on those streets with high concentrations of bungalows and older residents. It was worrying that there were a number of houses where it was clear that no one had taken in their post for several days. It could be for any number of reasons of course but with the conversations today it does have me wondering.
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
Where is this? Leicester, presumably, in your case, but I thought @Richard_Tyndall lived in Shetland?
Deaths in the community? So people who are so ill they die but are not being placed into hospital? Does this mean those who were near end of life and have DNR etc etc? Or is it people dying so fast they don't make hospital?
There are a lot of people living alone who are not now getting the support they need and don't have family members around to care for them. That is why we are trying to close the gap to some extent. But if you get CV-19 and don't go into hospital and you then die then you are probably not being recorded as a CV death. The numbers for those deaths have a one or two week lag and are reported by the ONS on Tuesdays.
The election of Starmer and Rayner in normal times would have been a huge event with live coverage and no doubt lots of enthusiasm and interviews to camera
Today has been such a low key event because of covid 19 it will hardly register in the wider public and that is unfortunate
That's a good point. It may be much closer to the next election that the general public notice that Labour has changed, so expect larger than otherwise Tory leads up until that point.
Amongst the avalanche of simply horrible news today. The news from the Labour Party is a chink of light for when normality finally returns, and this horrific pandemic is history.
Off to complete my manifold isolation chores now. Play nicely.
Will Labour now develop herd immunity to Corbynism?
A long and difficult process perhaps, but with determination they can get there. Remember Labour, it's not just for you, it's for the vulnerable people who will otherwise suffer.
It's a good job I've got a small bit of cash in my bank account. Old mortgage co taken the money out a day after completion to the new mortgage co ! Is that normal ?!
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
Where is this? Leicester, presumably, in your case, but I thought @Richard_Tyndall lived in Shetland?
Lincolnshire. The local GPs has now set up a system whereby if a patient does not renew their prescription it sets of an alarm and they contact the local authorities or the police to check if they are still alive.
I was delivering notes around the village yesterday letting people know about the contact system we have if they are self isolating and need help/shopping/ a chat etc. We are concentrating at the moment on those streets with high concentrations of bungalows and older residents. It was worrying that there were a number of houses where it was clear that no one had taken in their post for several days. It could be for any number of reasons of course but with the conversations today it does have me wondering.
Thanks. Sounds grim.
I know people who are not taking in post at the moment, or at least leaving it a while, as they have read the virus can hang around on paper for 48 hours or so.
Will Labour now develop herd immunity to Corbynism?
A long and difficult process perhaps, but with determination they can get there. Remember Labour, it's not just for you, it's for the vulnerable people who will otherwise suffer.
Starmer got 56%. I believe 60% is the magic number for herd immunity
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
Where is this? Leicester, presumably, in your case, but I thought @Richard_Tyndall lived in Shetland?
Deaths in the community? So people who are so ill they die but are not being placed into hospital? Does this mean those who were near end of life and have DNR etc etc? Or is it people dying so fast they don't make hospital?
Nursing homes have pretty much been told not to send people to hospital
In addition the hospitals have pretty much cleared all the 'bed blockers' as they have come to be known out of hospitals. Trouble is they were there for a reason - because they had no where safe to go - and now have been dumped back into the community where they won't receive the care they need.
Will Labour now develop herd immunity to Corbynism?
A long and difficult process perhaps, but with determination they can get there.
Over 70% of members voted for change. The hard-left, Unite candidate lost more heavily than was expected. Burgon came third. The NEC is no longer under Momentum control. The journey - which will be a long one - has begun.
The election of Starmer and Rayner in normal times would have been a huge event with live coverage and no doubt lots of enthusiasm and interviews to camera
Today has been such a low key event because of covid 19 it will hardly register in the wider public and that is unfortunate
That's a good point. It may be much closer to the next election that the general public notice that Labour has changed, so expect larger than otherwise Tory leads up until that point.
No. Once parliament gets back to normal the public will start to notice the govenment being properly challenged.
Will Labour now develop herd immunity to Corbynism?
A long and difficult process perhaps, but with determination they can get there.
Over 70% of members voted for change. The hard-left, Unite candidate lost more heavily than was expected. Burgon came third. The NEC is no longer under Momentum control. The journey - which will be a long one - has begun.
Dyson products are some of the worst I’ve ever encountered. Expensive, badly designed and break down. How he got his reputation is a mystery. G-tech are not much better either.
I never subscribed to the hype, probably due to having no carpets for about 20 years after we laid down beechwood flooring and the odd rug or two. A simple brush and a mop were sufficient.
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
That matches what I am hearing. The numbers will be difficult though as only inpatients are swabbed, so difficult to record accurately as COVID19 related.
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
Where is this? Leicester, presumably, in your case, but I thought @Richard_Tyndall lived in Shetland?
Deaths in the community? So people who are so ill they die but are not being placed into hospital? Does this mean those who were near end of life and have DNR etc etc? Or is it people dying so fast they don't make hospital?
Nursing homes have pretty much been told not to send people to hospital
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I'm waiting for the Irish Government to be confirmed where I'm on a FF/FG coalition.
I'll lose it all if Trump is re-elected. Green otherwise.
There are ominous signs from Singapore a premature easing can be disastrous. That said, public support for "health before wealth" is currently overwhelming but won't always remain as such. I certainly think travel beyond the UK will remain heavily restricted for the foreseeable.
I think this is going to be the real test for Government and for all of us and I don't see many easy options.
well a worrying conversation with a neighbour this morning. She is a nurse at the local GPs and she says that the number of deaths in the community they are seeing is terrifying. I have to say I am concerned that the ONS figures over the next few weeks which show the real rates of death are going to dwarf what we are seeing in the official daily numbers. Very sobering.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/04/jeremy-corbyn-labour-bernie-sanders-democrats/609397/
"Momentum, the Labour organisation for Jeremy Corbyn supporters, has put out a statement saying that it intends to hold Sir Keir Starmer to account and that he should appoint a “broad” shadow cabinet (ie, one that includes members of the Corbynite left)."
Can someone hear a blackened pot?
However it is how Starmer performs in the months and years ahead that matters, not really how much publicity his election gets today
The grim reaper is having a brutal week.
JOSAN, Gurinder Singh (Lab First) 57,361 ELECTED
BAXTER, Johanna (Lab First) 57,181 ELECTED
TOWNSEND, Lauren (Left) 56,929
BIRD, Jo (Left) 46,150
DRENNAN, Leigh (Left) 30,021
WRIGHT, Cecile (Left) 25,008
SHERRIFF, Paula 21,088
WILLIAMS, Trish 10,826
APPS, Peter 10,071
HOBSON, Deborah 8,974
WEBB, Chris 8,413
DENT, Fiona 7,420
A friend who was concerned about me asked me when I was going to stop. I said I'd stop when the consequences of being drunk all the time started to outweigh the pain I felt when I sobered up.
It took about three months, all in all. A month of holding it together. A month of being pretty ragged round the edges. Then a month of waking up with chest pains, people around me having to make excuses for me, etc. That was when I stopped.
I fear our lockdown will follow a similar curve.
Right now, the country is pretty much holding it together. But as the economic consequences become greater, businesses go to the wall, homes get repossessed, etc, at some point we are all just going to have to learn to live with the pain.
Lockdown is not a long term viable option, because the economic consequences will follow an exponential curve too. The boffins need to figure out a way to get us moving again, while minimising new infections and deaths. There will be pain. But there is no other way.
SEWELL, Carol (Labour First) 39.76% ELECTED
MISHRA, Navendu (Left) 27.45%
JACKMAN, Jermain 10.66%
AHMED, Hassan 4.72%
etc
Amazing how each development, which would otherwise be big news, has been (understandably) overshadowed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52154305
Yes, just grapevine from GP friends.
https://youtu.be/7W3yz6abJkU
Edit - but I can also only think of two Tories in the twentieth century who received knighthoods before becoming party leader - Eden and Home.
I’m working from home at the moment, as a result of the lockdown. Hope you are safe and well too.
Campaign for Labour Party Democracy was backing Townsend and Wright
Momentum was backing Townsend and Drennan
Labour Representation Committee was backing Bird and Hobson
Labour Left Alliance was backing Bird and Mohammed Azam (later suspended)
The deaths at the Burlington Court Care Home, which looks after up to 90 residents with complex medical needs, all took place in the past seven days.
Two members of staff are also being treated for the disease.
Visits to the care home, run by the Four Seasons Health Care group, had been suspended as part of measures to protect residents, who suffer from ongoing medical conditions such as Huntington’s and Parkinson’s Disease.
The only exceptions remain for essential medical visits or for exceptional circumstances agreed in advance.
All 13 fatalities at the care home have been linked to COVID-19, confirmed Four Seasons Health Care.
A spokesperson for the group said: "With deep sadness we can confirm that 13 residents have passed away over the past seven days. The focus is the ongoing care and protection of all our residents and our colleagues.”
The Care Inspectorate said: “Our thoughts are with the loved ones of those affected.”
@britainelects
Public opinion on Jeremy Corbyn:
Favourable: 20%
Unfavourable: 65%
via @YouGov
01 - 02 Apr
That and Sanders getting thrashed in the primaries by a man who would lose a debate with a leaf blower...
Welcome back, Ms. Apocalypse.
Certainly there are issues around hospital care (my friend and her baby). But so far I’ve heard no whisper of high mortality rates in the community.
https://twitter.com/JonnyGeller/status/1246388640940425216
I'd like to see a role for Johnson in the Starmer era.
I was delivering notes around the village yesterday letting people know about the contact system we have if they are self isolating and need help/shopping/ a chat etc. We are concentrating at the moment on those streets with high concentrations of bungalows and older residents. It was worrying that there were a number of houses where it was clear that no one had taken in their post for several days. It could be for any number of reasons of course but with the conversations today it does have me wondering.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52155359
#easyjokes
Off to complete my manifold isolation chores now. Play nicely.
Is that normal
This also means 2 nurses who live at same address are now out for 14 days so even more pressure on local hospital.
He has Kidney failure (one), so is high risk and he is feeling pretty pessimistic right now
Shit feels very real this morning