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64% of Britons, including 57% of Londoners, say they would support putting London under lockdown #COVID19 https://t.co/gOkfN6aPSn pic.twitter.com/ckxSzAQVn0

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Pro_Rata

First. Like the transport company.

rottenborough

Distant 2nd. Like Labour.

Beibheirli_C

Over the years, many have opined that London makes so much money it should be a separate state so it can shake off the parasitic regions that form the UK.

The thought experiment looks like it is becoming reality....

Lexit!

IanB2

Yes, London

tlg86

Build the wall.

Nigelb

I feel like repeating my comment from the last thread....

For now, I get the impression the government is attempting to triangulate between the reality before and after the pandemic hit. I’m not convinced that’s an appropriate way to address a crisis.

And Johnson’s attempt to sound optimistic/reassuring/determined didn’t really work.

rottenborough

Italy:

"99 per cent of coronavirus deaths in Italy are patients with existing medical problems, a study by the country's health service has found.

Research into 355 deaths found that only three of the victims, 0.8 per cent, had been clear of illnesses before they were infected.

Nearly half of them - 48.5 per cent - already had three or even more health conditions before they were diagnosed with Covid-19.

Another 25.6 per cent had two other 'pathologies', while 25.1 per cent had one."

(Mail)

isam

Beibheirli_C said:

Over the years, many have opined that London makes so much money it should be a separate state so it can shake off the parasitic regions that form the UK.

The thought experiment looks like it is becoming reality....

Lexit!

Haha, so they did! The provincial tortoises look like they won in the end

HYUFD

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1240704835684454400?s=20

HYUFD

During the Great Plague of the 17th century of course many wealthier Londoners fled the city for the countryside, whether some follow suit today before a London lockdown remains to be seen

HYUFD

Interesting to compare the Mori numbers after the new Labour leader is elected next month and a few more weeks of government response to the virus

rural_voter

FPT (but lost trace of who made the comments below; mine is 3rd.)

He is listening to the scientists which I give him credit for. And he has avoided some knee-jerk decisions which I also give him credit for. And he's doing a much, much better job than Donald Trump.

**

Trump is in a class of his own.
The pandemic will try the best statesmen and women.

**

Presumably the only things in the USA's favour are

low population density
lack of public transport.

Do their hospitals still charge $2,000 for a test? Shameful.

WhisperingOracle

rottenborough said:

Italy:

"99 per cent of coronavirus deaths in Italy are patients with existing medical problems, a study by the country's health service has found.

Research into 355 deaths found that only three of the victims, 0.8 per cent, had been clear of illnesses before they were infected.

Nearly half of them - 48.5 per cent - already had three or even more health conditions before they were diagnosed with Covid-19.

Another 25.6 per cent had two other 'pathologies', while 25.1 per cent had one."

(Mail)

For this to be situation, and for them still to be getting such a high number of deaths, their health system still must be very seriously overwhelmed.

Mortimer

HYUFD said:

Interesting to compare the Mori numbers after the new Labour leader is elected next month and a few more weeks of government response to the virus

I suspect Keith Stormer will be very pleased to see such a large gap before he takes the reins.

Presumably his theme tune will be 'The only way is up....'?

twistedfirestopper3

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

rcs1000

kamski said:

RobD said:

NerysHughes said:

DavidL said:

The number of new cases in Italy is appalling. We really should be seeing the benefit of their lockdown starting to factor in by now.

If is does not come down massively in a week then there is a real problem, it surely must do because how can the virus infect people if there is no social interaction

There are probably still social interactions. Going to the shops, for one.

There's people who were infected before the lock down still getting tested positive.
There's members of the same household getting infected.
There's loads of people still going to work.
There's people getting infected in hospitals, care homes etc

All those matter. And (1) is probably still the biggest factor right now.

But it's not about getting to zero, it's about getting an R0 that is nearer 0.2 than 3. And as the number of social interactions in Italy is probably down 90+%, and as people are a lot more cautious, and are using soap, etc.m we can be reasonably confident that it will come down fairly quickly.

Now, everyone is fixating on the total Italian number, but it's worth looking at the numbers for the Veneto area, which was one of the first two hotspots.

The number of new cases jumped above 200 for the first time on 12/3. It has been above there every day since, peaking at 510. It's now 270. Now it's too early to celebrate yet. But it's possible that we'll see the first number under 200 tomorrow. That would be a more than halving from the peak.

And where Veneto goes, the rest of Italy will follow (with a lag).

HYUFD

https://twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1240713549770604546?s=20

WhisperingOracle

The government are going to have take some sort of action on supermarket demand, I think, while their supplies are still coming in so relatively normally for the moment. It might be that they make the amounts per customer mandatory, rather than the supermarkets.

TheScreamingEagles

FFS

Netflix will reduce the video quality on its service in Europe for the next 30 days, to reduce the strain on internet service providers.

Demand for streaming has increased because large parts of Europe are self-isolating at home due to the coronavirus outbreak,

The video-streaming provider said lowering the picture quality would reduce Netflix data consumption by 25%.

But it said viewers would still find the picture quality good.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51968302

TheWhiteRabbit

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

rottenborough

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

I cannot understand why Johnson isn't acting on this aspect.

twistedfirestopper3

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

Ones empty, ones closed. Believe me, I've done some miles today.

Mortimer

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try the corner shops - I just walked past ours and its fully stocked, loo paper and all.

AramintaMoonbeamQC

Public Information Broadcast on BBC1, with Chris Whitty.

This is taking me back to the 80s.

philiph

WhisperingOracle said:

The government are going to have take some sort of action on supermarket demand, I think, when the supplies are still coming in so relatively normally for the moment. It might be that they make the amounts per customer mandatory, rather than the supermarkets.

It would be very foolish of the government to introdue a measure that they couldn't enforce. That leads to a failure on many many levels.

WhisperingOracle

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

Ones empty, ones closed. Believe me, I've done some miles today.

Some areas of the country seem much worse affected by this, like the North and Inner London.

tlg86

Those party/Brexit splits are remarkably consistent.

I guess a lockdown works both ways, so some Londoners will favour it in terms of keeping the bumpkins out.

TheScreamingEagles

rottenborough said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

I cannot understand why Johnson isn't acting on this aspect.

I used to take the piss out of my father for hoarding like a doomsday prepper, he's had the last laugh, and I'm glad.

rcs1000

In Los Angeles, getting fresh fruit and vegetables is pretty easy. But getting canned goods or rice or pasta is essentially impossible.

Tonight I shall make a risotto primavera, which my son will not eat.

Anabobazina

Oh London thread alert!

The risk of moronic anti London commentary is high!

twistedfirestopper3

Anabobazina said:

Oh London thread alert!

The risk of moronic anti London commentary is high!

Give it a rest, lad.

IanB2

tlg86 said:

Those party/Brexit splits are remarkably consistent.

I guess a lockdown works both ways, so some Londoners will favour it in terms of keeping the bumpkins out.

You think our plague epicentre would be besieged by country folk all fighting to get in?

Richard_Nabavi

Apologies if this has already been posted, but I thought this article from the Economist was a superb explanation of the structure and effect of the virus, and the possible ways drugs can help treat it:

https://www.economist.com/briefing/2020/03/12/understanding-sars-cov-2-and-the-drugs-that-might-lessen-its-power

(There's a paywall, but you can sign up for free for up to five articles a month).

WhisperingOracle

philiph said:

WhisperingOracle said:

The government are going to have take some sort of action on supermarket demand, I think, when the supplies are still coming in so relatively normally for the moment. It might be that they make the amounts per customer mandatory, rather than the supermarkets.

It would be very foolish of the government to introdue a measure that they couldn't enforce. That leads to a failure on many many levels.

Unenforceable or half-enforceable, they may have no choice but to try. People in a number of areas rely on supermarkets and have limited access to other shops, and these are disproportionately the low-paid. These areas, like Inner London and ex-industrial northern areas, seem to be being hit particularly hard by the supermarket issues.

Nigelb

TheScreamingEagles said:

rottenborough said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

I cannot understand why Johnson isn't acting on this aspect.

I used to take the piss out of my father for hoarding like a doomsday prepper, he's had the last laugh, and I'm glad.

And to make you feel a bit better about Yo Sushi....

'Sushi parasites' have increased 283-fold in past 40 years
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/gcb.15048

Mortimer

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

Ones empty, ones closed. Believe me, I've done some miles today.

Forgive the prying, but I'd be interested to know if small town/large town/city?

I live in the big Dorset conurbation, and around here every shop is open with no real shortages except cleaning products. The corner shops are rammed with stuff.

not_on_fire

WhisperingOracle said:

philiph said:

WhisperingOracle said:

The government are going to have take some sort of action on supermarket demand, I think, when the supplies are still coming in so relatively normally for the moment. It might be that they make the amounts per customer mandatory, rather than the supermarkets.

It would be very foolish of the government to introdue a measure that they couldn't enforce. That leads to a failure on many many levels.

Unenforceable or half-enforceable, they may have no choice but to try. People in a number of areas rely on supermarkets and have limited access to other shops, and these are disproportionately the low-paid.

Yes. People honestly could starve if something isn’t done.

rottenborough

Just secured a Sainsbury delivery. Praise the heavens.

Must have ramped up their local drivers.

tlg86

IanB2 said:

tlg86 said:

Those party/Brexit splits are remarkably consistent.

I guess a lockdown works both ways, so some Londoners will favour it in terms of keeping the bumpkins out.

You think our plague epicentre would be besieged with country folk fighting to get in?

No, but some Londoners might think along those lines.

rcs1000

Nigelb said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

rottenborough said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

I cannot understand why Johnson isn't acting on this aspect.

I used to take the piss out of my father for hoarding like a doomsday prepper, he's had the last laugh, and I'm glad.

And to make you feel a bit better about Yo Sushi....

'Sushi parasites' have increased 283-fold in past 40 years
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/gcb.15048

Are those the guys that get sit just to the left of you and keep grabbing the one dish you like just before it gets to you?

twistedfirestopper3

Mortimer said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

Ones empty, ones closed. Believe me, I've done some miles today.

Forgive the prying, but I'd be interested to know if small town/large town/city?

I live in the big Dorset conurbation, and around here every shop is open with no real shortages except cleaning products. The corner shops are rammed with stuff.

Loughborough and surrounding area.

Stocky

Mortimer said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try the corner shops - I just walked past ours and its fully stocked, loo paper and all.

Please can you post the address of the corner shop.

rottenborough

Mortimer said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

Ones empty, ones closed. Believe me, I've done some miles today.

Forgive the prying, but I'd be interested to know if small town/large town/city?

I live in the big Dorset conurbation, and around here every shop is open with no real shortages except cleaning products. The corner shops are rammed with stuff.

Dorset has a conurbation?

TheScreamingEagles

Sobering thread.

https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1240707565941489664

twistedfirestopper3

I've got a 9 roll pack of luxury bog roll. I'll swap it for 7 sachets of dried fast yeast.

TheScreamingEagles

Nigelb said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

rottenborough said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

I cannot understand why Johnson isn't acting on this aspect.

I used to take the piss out of my father for hoarding like a doomsday prepper, he's had the last laugh, and I'm glad.

And to make you feel a bit better about Yo Sushi....

'Sushi parasites' have increased 283-fold in past 40 years
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/gcb.15048

Ewww, don't tell me stuff like that.

When this over the first place I'm visiting a sushi place.

rcs1000

Separately (and probably bigger news for the long-term survival of humanity) is this paper on the discovery of a new antibiotic that has been very effective against MRSA in mice:

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30102-1

another_richard

rottenborough said:

Mortimer said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

Ones empty, ones closed. Believe me, I've done some miles today.

Forgive the prying, but I'd be interested to know if small town/large town/city?

I live in the big Dorset conurbation, and around here every shop is open with no real shortages except cleaning products. The corner shops are rammed with stuff.

Dorset has a conurbation?

Bournemouth-Poole-Christchurch.

Because it doesn't have a big city in the middle and votes Conservative its not thought of as a conurbation.

rottenborough

rcs1000 said:

In Los Angeles, getting fresh fruit and vegetables is pretty easy. But getting canned goods or rice or pasta is essentially impossible.

Tonight I shall make a risotto primavera, which my son will not eat.

Are you locked down? I gather from a mate that SF bay area is.

another_richard

Can I suggest the government does something about junk mail.

Reducing it would lower the risk of people getting infected from picking it up along the postal chain plus would take pressure of the mail services thus improving the chances of more important things arriving on time.

kinabalu

HYUFD said:

During the Great Plague of the 17th century of course many wealthier Londoners fled the city for the countryside, whether some follow suit today before a London lockdown remains to be seen

I'm staying. I go down with the ship. I was not born here but London has made me the man I am today. If I am to exit the stage before my time - if I will never again queue for a crepe at the Hampstead crepe van - well so be it. My ashes will grace the Heath.

jayfdee

I think the daily news conferences are very good, the experts are very good, and Boris is getting better, yes he waffles, but he does defer to the experts, the Chancellor is the star so far and defo future PM material.

Charles

rottenborough said:

Distant 2nd. Like Labour.

Missed your question a couple of threads ago - my Dad's in HDU with Covid-19. Stable but critical.

@JM1

SandyRentool

I really hoped that Bozo would announce the deployment of the strategic broth reserve.

Maybe tomorrow.

Pulpstar

I London workers who live outside the quarantine zone will be the most in favour. The thought of getting the tube right now would fill me with dread.

Anabobazina

Greg Clarke very impressive on C4 News.

Why is he not in the cabinet?

Alistair

rcs1000 said:

In Los Angeles, getting fresh fruit and vegetables is pretty easy. But getting canned goods or rice or pasta is essentially impossible.

Tonight I shall make a risotto primavera, which my son will not eat.

Orzo primavera is just as tasty and takes about a quarter of the effort.

Anabobazina

twistedfirestopper3 said:

Anabobazina said:

Oh London thread alert!

The risk of moronic anti London commentary is high!

Give it a rest, lad.

If you stop the pig-ignorant anti London stuff, I’ll stop needing to make these warnings.

rcs1000

Alistair said:

rcs1000 said:

In Los Angeles, getting fresh fruit and vegetables is pretty easy. But getting canned goods or rice or pasta is essentially impossible.

Tonight I shall make a risotto primavera, which my son will not eat.

Orzo primavera is just as tasty and takes about a quarter of the effort.

But it also requires you to (a) have orzo, and (b) have a wife who eats orzo.

Anabobazina

kinabalu said:

HYUFD said:

During the Great Plague of the 17th century of course many wealthier Londoners fled the city for the countryside, whether some follow suit today before a London lockdown remains to be seen

I'm staying. I go down with the ship. I was not born here but London has made me the man I am today. If I am to exit the stage before my time - if I will never again queue for a crepe at the Hampstead crepe van - well so be it. My ashes will grace the Heath.

I’ll be staying.

jayfdee

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Distant 2nd. Like Labour.

Missed your question a couple of threads ago - my Dad's in HDU with Covid-19. Stable but critical.

@JM1

Hope for the best, I lost my Dad a while back, wish you the best.

TOPPING

rcs1000 said:

Alistair said:

rcs1000 said:

In Los Angeles, getting fresh fruit and vegetables is pretty easy. But getting canned goods or rice or pasta is essentially impossible.

Tonight I shall make a risotto primavera, which my son will not eat.

Orzo primavera is just as tasty and takes about a quarter of the effort.

But it also requires you to (a) have orzo, and (b) have a wife who eats orzo.

Plus where on earth are you going to get a primavera right now?

Barnesian

rcs1000

TOPPING said:

rcs1000 said:

Alistair said:

rcs1000 said:

In Los Angeles, getting fresh fruit and vegetables is pretty easy. But getting canned goods or rice or pasta is essentially impossible.

Tonight I shall make a risotto primavera, which my son will not eat.

Orzo primavera is just as tasty and takes about a quarter of the effort.

But it also requires you to (a) have orzo, and (b) have a wife who eats orzo.

Plus where on earth are you going to get a primavera right now?

I've set a trap in my garden and am hopeful.

rottenborough

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Distant 2nd. Like Labour.

Missed your question a couple of threads ago - my Dad's in HDU with Covid-19. Stable but critical.

@JM1

Sorry to hear that. Hope the hydroxychloroquine does the trick.

ThomasNashe

kinabalu said:

HYUFD said:

During the Great Plague of the 17th century of course many wealthier Londoners fled the city for the countryside, whether some follow suit today before a London lockdown remains to be seen

I'm staying. I go down with the ship. I was not born here but London has made me the man I am today. If I am to exit the stage before my time - if I will never again queue for a crepe at the Hampstead crepe van - well so be it. My ashes will grace the Heath.

Me too. Londoner by inclination, not by birth. 'If I should die, think only this of me. There's some corner of a far-off town/ That is forever London'

Anabobazina

another_richard said:

Can I suggest the government does something about junk mail.

Reducing it would lower the risk of people getting infected from picking it up along the postal chain plus would take pressure of the mail services thus improving the chances of more important things arriving on time.

Why not make the policy permanent, to include the reams of land filling propaganda that arrives on my doormat at election time?

twistedfirestopper3

Anabobazina said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

Anabobazina said:

Oh London thread alert!

The risk of moronic anti London commentary is high!

Give it a rest, lad.

If you stop the pig-ignorant anti London stuff, I’ll stop needing to make these warnings.

I don't need yer warnings, yer self righteous, shandy drinking, orange juice fer breakfast, sushi munching Southern softie.
If you can't take a bit of ribbing about the place you choose to live, you'll be a long time miserable

rottenborough

Anabobazina said:

Greg Clarke very impressive on C4 News.

Why is he not in the cabinet?

He was. May's that is. He seemed like one of the few who could sit on a toilet the right way around. He doesn't fit the Johnson test.

WhisperingOracle

Barnesian said:

The graph for the South Korean progression of the outbreak stands out a mile.

rcs1000

WhisperingOracle said:

Barnesian said:

When did the South Korean outbreak start ?

Late Jan.

another_richard

rcs1000 said:

Separately (and probably bigger news for the long-term survival of humanity) is this paper on the discovery of a new antibiotic that has been very effective against MRSA in mice:

https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30102-1

MRSA

Now that's something we haven't heard much of in recent years.

But in was killing 2000+ per year in the 2000s.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsinvolvingmrsaenglandandwales/2012-08-22

stodge

Evening all

I seriously question the practicality and wisdom of a London "lockdown". It seems a huge waste of resource which could be used elsewhere.

My experience is many people are still out and about - construction sites are still going, my local Wetherspoons had all its locals in their usual places and the food shops were rammed so little evidence of self distancing or self isolation.

In any case, I've nowhere else to go.

IshmaelZ

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I've got a 9 roll pack of luxury bog roll. I'll swap it for 7 sachets of dried fast yeast.

Find a local baker and beg a dollop of sourdough culture off them.

SandyRentool

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I've got a 9 roll pack of luxury bog roll. I'll swap it for 7 sachets of dried fast yeast.

Make roti. No need for yeast.

Alistair

TOPPING said:

rcs1000 said:

Alistair said:

rcs1000 said:

In Los Angeles, getting fresh fruit and vegetables is pretty easy. But getting canned goods or rice or pasta is essentially impossible.

Tonight I shall make a risotto primavera, which my son will not eat.

Orzo primavera is just as tasty and takes about a quarter of the effort.

But it also requires you to (a) have orzo, and (b) have a wife who eats orzo.

Plus where on earth are you going to get a primavera right now?

Iceland does frozen tender stem broccoli. canned runner beans are fine with some lemon pasta. Frozen peas are as good as anything.

AlastairMeeks

I pre-empted the London lockdown by 18 months. Lock it up, I say.

Best wishes for @Charles and a speedy recovery for his father.

Anabobazina

twistedfirestopper3 said:

Anabobazina said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

Anabobazina said:

Oh London thread alert!

The risk of moronic anti London commentary is high!

Give it a rest, lad.

If you stop the pig-ignorant anti London stuff, I’ll stop needing to make these warnings.

I don't need yer warnings, yer self righteous, shandy drinking, orange juice fer breakfast, sushi munching Southern softie.
If you can't take a bit of ribbing about the place you choose to live, you'll be a long time miserable

All of that stuff is fine.

It’s the moronic hating that does you down.

And sushi is lovely. Try it.

rottenborough

stodge said:

Evening all

I seriously question the practicality and wisdom of a London "lockdown". It seems a huge waste of resource which could be used elsewhere.

My experience is many people are still out and about - construction sites are still going, my local Wetherspoons had all its locals in their usual places and the food shops were rammed so little evidence of self distancing or self isolation.

In any case, I've nowhere else to go.

If people carry on like that, then there will be a lockdown on Spanish levels.

another_richard

ThomasNashe said:

kinabalu said:

HYUFD said:

During the Great Plague of the 17th century of course many wealthier Londoners fled the city for the countryside, whether some follow suit today before a London lockdown remains to be seen

I'm staying. I go down with the ship. I was not born here but London has made me the man I am today. If I am to exit the stage before my time - if I will never again queue for a crepe at the Hampstead crepe van - well so be it. My ashes will grace the Heath.

Me too. Londoner by inclination, not by birth. 'If I should die, think only this of me. There's some corner of a far-off town/ That is forever London'

Wouldn't that be more appropriate for a Londoner who had died elsewhere ?

noneoftheabove

Anabobazina said:

another_richard said:

Can I suggest the government does something about junk mail.

Reducing it would lower the risk of people getting infected from picking it up along the postal chain plus would take pressure of the mail services thus improving the chances of more important things arriving on time.

Why not make the policy permanent, to include the reams of land filling propaganda that arrives on my doormat at election time?

And the unwanted phone calls. Charge them £1 a call, if the firms dont pay, pass it on to the networks, they will find a way to stop them very quickly!

twistedfirestopper3

IshmaelZ said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I've got a 9 roll pack of luxury bog roll. I'll swap it for 7 sachets of dried fast yeast.

Find a local baker and beg a dollop of sourdough culture off them.

We do sourdough, a local micro brewery flogs the yeast off initsshop now and again. I've kept it alive for nearly a year. I've had shorter living pets!

Charles

TheScreamingEagles said:

Nigelb said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

rottenborough said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

I cannot understand why Johnson isn't acting on this aspect.

I used to take the piss out of my father for hoarding like a doomsday prepper, he's had the last laugh, and I'm glad.

And to make you feel a bit better about Yo Sushi....

'Sushi parasites' have increased 283-fold in past 40 years
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/gcb.15048

Ewww, don't tell me stuff like that.

When this over the first place I'm visiting a sushi place.

I stopped eating sushi after I advised the owners of the world's top aquaculture company when they sold the business.

Did you know that fish have lice?

https://responsibleaquaculture.wordpress.com/2014/03/08/more-sea-lice-outbreaks-in-chilean-fish-farms/

Charles

jayfdee said:

Charles said:

rottenborough said:

Distant 2nd. Like Labour.

Missed your question a couple of threads ago - my Dad's in HDU with Covid-19. Stable but critical.

@JM1

Hope for the best, I lost my Dad a while back, wish you the best.

Thanks

twistedfirestopper3

Anabobazina said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

Anabobazina said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

Anabobazina said:

Oh London thread alert!

The risk of moronic anti London commentary is high!

Give it a rest, lad.

If you stop the pig-ignorant anti London stuff, I’ll stop needing to make these warnings.

I don't need yer warnings, yer self righteous, shandy drinking, orange juice fer breakfast, sushi munching Southern softie.
If you can't take a bit of ribbing about the place you choose to live, you'll be a long time miserable

All of that stuff is fine.

It’s the moronic hating that does you down.

And sushi is lovely. Try it.

I'm not sure I've have ever really dropped a mega hate bomb on the Smoke. You might prove me wrong.

DecrepiterJohnL

Cheltenham is the dog that has not yet barked in the nighttime. Controversially, the Cheltenham Festival (horseracing) went ahead last week, with four days of 70,000-strong crowds from Britain and Ireland.

It will be interesting to see how many cases there will be over the next week or two affecting racegoers.

Pulpstar

Deepest sympathies to @Charles, in the centre of this maelstrom in the most hideous way.

Charles

AlastairMeeks said:

I pre-empted the London lockdown by 18 months. Lock it up, I say.

Best wishes for @Charles and a speedy recovery for his father.

Thanks

No_Offence_Alan

another_richard said:

Can I suggest the government does something about junk mail.

Reducing it would lower the risk of people getting infected from picking it up along the postal chain plus would take pressure of the mail services thus improving the chances of more important things arriving on time.

It would act as toilet roll substitute though.

Anabobazina

noneoftheabove said:

Anabobazina said:

another_richard said:

Can I suggest the government does something about junk mail.

Reducing it would lower the risk of people getting infected from picking it up along the postal chain plus would take pressure of the mail services thus improving the chances of more important things arriving on time.

Why not make the policy permanent, to include the reams of land filling propaganda that arrives on my doormat at election time?

And the unwanted phone calls. Charge them £1 a call, if the firms dont pay, pass it on to the networks, they will find a way to stop them very quickly!

Great idea.

Nigelb

rcs1000 said:

WhisperingOracle said:

Barnesian said:

When did the South Korean outbreak start ?

Late Jan.

And what is going on in Japan ?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-19/a-coronavirus-explosion-was-expected-in-japan-where-is-it

Floater

rottenborough said:

stodge said:

Evening all

I seriously question the practicality and wisdom of a London "lockdown". It seems a huge waste of resource which could be used elsewhere.

My experience is many people are still out and about - construction sites are still going, my local Wetherspoons had all its locals in their usual places and the food shops were rammed so little evidence of self distancing or self isolation.

In any case, I've nowhere else to go.

If people carry on like that, then there will be a lockdown on Spanish levels.

and many more deaths - stupid buggers

Charles

Pulpstar said:

Deepest sympathies to @Charles, in the centre of this maelstrom in the most hideous way.

Thanks

IshmaelZ

twistedfirestopper3 said:

IshmaelZ said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I've got a 9 roll pack of luxury bog roll. I'll swap it for 7 sachets of dried fast yeast.

Find a local baker and beg a dollop of sourdough culture off them.

We do sourdough, a local micro brewery flogs the yeast off initsshop now and again. I've kept it alive for nearly a year. I've had shorter living pets!

I think mine is 7 or 8 by now, once you have got them going they seem pretty immortal.

Anabobazina

Charles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Nigelb said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

rottenborough said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

I cannot understand why Johnson isn't acting on this aspect.

I used to take the piss out of my father for hoarding like a doomsday prepper, he's had the last laugh, and I'm glad.

And to make you feel a bit better about Yo Sushi....

'Sushi parasites' have increased 283-fold in past 40 years
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/gcb.15048

Ewww, don't tell me stuff like that.

When this over the first place I'm visiting a sushi place.

I stopped eating sushi after I advised the owners of the world's top aquaculture company when they sold the business.

Did you know that fish have lice?

https://responsibleaquaculture.wordpress.com/2014/03/08/more-sea-lice-outbreaks-in-chilean-fish-farms/

Fussy eater.

rcs1000

Nigelb said:

rcs1000 said:

WhisperingOracle said:

Barnesian said:

When did the South Korean outbreak start ?

Late Jan.

And what is going on in Japan ?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-19/a-coronavirus-explosion-was-expected-in-japan-where-is-it

The Japanese are also scrupulous about hygiene, which may play a role in slowing its spread.

Nigelb

TheScreamingEagles said:

Nigelb said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

rottenborough said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

I cannot understand why Johnson isn't acting on this aspect.

I used to take the piss out of my father for hoarding like a doomsday prepper, he's had the last laugh, and I'm glad.

And to make you feel a bit better about Yo Sushi....

'Sushi parasites' have increased 283-fold in past 40 years
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/gcb.15048

Ewww, don't tell me stuff like that.

When this over the first place I'm visiting a sushi place.

Sorry about that.
I love sushi, too.

TheScreamingEagles

Charles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Nigelb said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

rottenborough said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

twistedfirestopper3 said:

I'm fucking fizzing. Been trying to do a shop for my 82 year old mum, who we've virtually welded into her flat. The shops are empty. Genuinely fuck all of any worth on the shelves. Even stuff like ketchup gone. The poor shop staff looked haunted. This is going to end up with some poor bastard getting killed. It's making me swear

Try your corner or smaller shops

I cannot understand why Johnson isn't acting on this aspect.

I used to take the piss out of my father for hoarding like a doomsday prepper, he's had the last laugh, and I'm glad.

And to make you feel a bit better about Yo Sushi....

'Sushi parasites' have increased 283-fold in past 40 years
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/gcb.15048

Ewww, don't tell me stuff like that.

When this over the first place I'm visiting a sushi place.

I stopped eating sushi after I advised the owners of the world's top aquaculture company when they sold the business.

Did you know that fish have lice?

https://responsibleaquaculture.wordpress.com/2014/03/08/more-sea-lice-outbreaks-in-chilean-fish-farms/

Stop it, don't ruin sushi for me.

Seriously thought all the best for your father.

dr_spyn

I hope your father @Charles makes a speedy recovery.

Anabobazina

Charles

Sorry to hear about your father, just read back on the thread. Hoping for a swift recovery.