I'm not sure I am on board with the 'whatever it takes' slogan. If we all have to self immolate using cheap petrol as the ultimate Corona attack plan, I am not up for it.
"Beating Boris around the head with an inflated puffer fish...."
"Whatever it takes...."
In the full knowledge I will regret asking...
What is a puffer fish?
Its a fish that inflates itself with air to ward of predators often covered in spines and contains a toxin associated with haitian zombie practise tetrodotoxin I believe
I'm not sure what good it would do to prevent economic decline and eye-watering job losses, but I do feel it would add to the gaiety of the nation....
They could give the toxin to all the proles and put them in suspended animation for a year I guess till they are needed to fill the gig jobs I guess
On renters saying they will be protected from no fault evictions is spectacularly missing the point. They want protection from eviction for not paying the rent because they have lost their job due to govt shutting down the economy.
So as suspected not much for the underlings
I think it will come, the pressure will be inevitable but a complete lack of comprehension of life renting within the cabinet of multi millionaires shows they dont get it.
They have got non eviction for non payment of rent, what more do they want?
and who the hell is going to be taxed to pay for the rich people being bailed out again.....you and people like you are exactly why I refuse to vote tory
Will you be blaming the “feckless poor” for losing their jobs @HYUFD ? The government has after all “promised” 300b so that shouldn’t happen right?
Spoiler: people have already lost their jobs
Went to a small registry office wedding today as I'd been asked to do the reading months ago. One of the 3 other guests grumbled about how exaggerated the virus was and how people were over-reacting - "They're even asking for rent freezes! I believe in middle-class values, why can't people put money aside for the unexpected. What about helping the landlords?" I said that many people were actually in debt and could barely make ends meet, so putting money aside wasn't practical for them. He reiterated trenchantly, "I don't hold with that, as I said I believe in middle-class values."
I'm a peaceful chap and didn't want to spoil the wedding, but moved to the other side of the room. It was spooky to meet a stereotype in real life - I didn't think people like that actually existed outside the world of Trotskyist leaflets.
Back to isolation!
I doubt he understands that QE, housing benefit and govt props have supported landlords to the tune of hundreds of billions whilst the rest of the country went through austerity. Not many people do.
I'm 33. In my 11 years of work, all I've known is ultra low interest rates. I'd love nothing more than to see house prices collapse (although I'd probably be out of work in such circumstances). Unfortunately, all the political parties are signed up to keeping house prices high, even if they won't admit it.
The simmple ans best way to 'recover the econamy' after this is all over would be to allow house building on a large scall by radicaly reforming the planing rules:
a) increasing supply would radically reduce pries and rents. b) it would quickly create a lot of jobs c) the result would be more and better houses which last a long time. d) no need to increase spending, borrowing or taxes
but will not happen, as the decrees in house prises would make home owners feel poor and home owners are mostly old and they vote.
The planning rules aren’t really the problem, though. Housing developers are sitting on tons of land and tons of unimplemented permissions. It is almost as if they have an interest in houses being expensive.
House builders like most company s need a supply of materials, in this case the key material is land, if that supply is insecure then the companys need to keep plenty ready to use. compare Japan where with good transport links companys use 'just in time' supply chains, in less developed contrary the factorys have big store rooms.
The UK is a real outlier here with almost all house building going on by big companys, because the rules are so complex and planing outcomes seemingly arbetary. in a reformed system there would be a lot more smaller house builders, so hording land would be higly unprofitable.
Apparently the 475 deaths excludes data from Parma and Campania. Parma has reported 34 new deaths, so Italy becomes the first nation to officially pass 500 deaths in a day.
Given that Italy is probably about the average temperature we can expect come the summer, that doesn't bode terribly well.
I'm starting to think I was unfair to Eadric. (I'll never hear the last of it if he sees this comment...)
There is no sign whatsoever that we are heading for two million deaths, or anything near.
Well, possibly not. But it's already heading past five figures (assuming China and Iran are not telling the truth about the number of deaths) and it shows no sign of slowing. It's left SARS and AIDS trailing and is fast catching up with swineflu. But the efforts to contain it are likely to prove just as lethal.
By the latter you mean the socio-economic consequences?
Well, yes. How many people will die through disruption to medical supply chains, issues around food, even suicide?
On renters saying they will be protected from no fault evictions is spectacularly missing the point. They want protection from eviction for not paying the rent because they have lost their job due to govt shutting down the economy.
So as suspected not much for the underlings
I think it will come, the pressure will be inevitable but a complete lack of comprehension of life renting within the cabinet of multi millionaires shows they dont get it.
They have got non eviction for non payment of rent, what more do they want?
and who the hell is going to be taxed to pay for the rich people being bailed out again.....you and people like you are exactly why I refuse to vote tory
Are rich people getting bailed out?
The govt are giving guarantees to banks for home owners mortgage payments. They are not offering the equivalent to renters.
Given home owners are on average richer than renters it shouldnt be controversial that the support is more targeted at the rich.
Similarly, little has been done for those in the gig economy or sole traders beyond offering a pitiful amount of SSP or benefits for those needing to isolate.
Just to be clear, those guarantees are to protect the *banks* not the home owners
Agreed my elderly father asked me today , if I thought that banks could collapse due to defaults on debt..
Apparently the 475 deaths excludes data from Parma and Campania. Parma has reported 34 new deaths, so Italy becomes the first nation to officially pass 500 deaths in a day.
Given that Italy is probably about the average temperature we can expect come the summer, that doesn't bode terribly well.
I'm starting to think I was unfair to Eadric. (I'll never hear the last of it if he sees this comment...)
There is no sign whatsoever that we are heading for two million deaths, or anything near.
Well, possibly not. But it's already heading past five figures (assuming China and Iran are not telling the truth about the number of deaths) and it shows no sign of slowing. It's left SARS and AIDS trailing and is fast catching up with swineflu. But the efforts to contain it are likely to prove just as lethal.
I'm not sure I am on board with the 'whatever it takes' slogan. If we all have to self immolate using cheap petrol as the ultimate Corona attack plan, I am not up for it.
"Beating Boris around the head with an inflated puffer fish...."
"Whatever it takes...."
In the full knowledge I will regret asking...
What is a puffer fish?
Its a fish that inflates itself with air to ward of predators often covered in spines and contains a toxin associated with haitian zombie practise tetrodotoxin I believe
I'm not sure what good it would do to prevent economic decline and eye-watering job losses, but I do feel it would add to the gaiety of the nation....
Nah, beating him around the head is too much.
Now Williamson, Patel, Raab and Boris playing "catch" with an inflated puffer fish...
May I apologise for my intemperate language earlier to PB and the moderators, just hard hearing of friends being laid off all week and wondering how they pay the rent and feed themselves while others insist the government measures announced so far are protecting them
I think the government should force companies who use the facility to suspend shareholder dividends and force bondholders to take haircuts as well. It's no use giving corporates £330bn in free liquidity and then they just spunk it on buybacks and dividends. I'd also make the loans into "loans" by lending at 0% and having an undetermined redemption date. That way the government still gets to show an asset but the company isn't actually taking on any real liability.
On renters saying they will be protected from no fault evictions is spectacularly missing the point. They want protection from eviction for not paying the rent because they have lost their job due to govt shutting down the economy.
So as suspected not much for the underlings
I think it will come, the pressure will be inevitable but a complete lack of comprehension of life renting within the cabinet of multi millionaires shows they dont get it.
They have got non eviction for non payment of rent, what more do they want?
and who the hell is going to be taxed to pay for the rich people being bailed out again.....you and people like you are exactly why I refuse to vote tory
Are rich people getting bailed out?
The govt are giving guarantees to banks for home owners mortgage payments. They are not offering the equivalent to renters.
Given home owners are on average richer than renters it shouldnt be controversial that the support is more targeted at the rich.
Similarly, little has been done for those in the gig economy or sole traders beyond offering a pitiful amount of SSP or benefits for those needing to isolate.
Just to be clear, those guarantees are to protect the *banks* not the home owners
Agreed my elderly father asked me today , if I thought that banks could collapse due to defaults on debt..
I suppose that will only be a problem if they have to start paying out a load of their savers, and as no bugger will be spending anything because everything's shut...
On renters saying they will be protected from no fault evictions is spectacularly missing the point. They want protection from eviction for not paying the rent because they have lost their job due to govt shutting down the economy.
So as suspected not much for the underlings
I think it will come, the pressure will be inevitable but a complete lack of comprehension of life renting within the cabinet of multi millionaires shows they dont get it.
They have got non eviction for non payment of rent, what more do they want?
Equally posted without comment, we should not just have one rule for Richard while leftwing PBers get off with abuse
IanB2, left wing? You should get out a bit more,.... once the Corona-Crisis is over of course :-)
Of course he is leftwing and increasingly rude with it
I know many people who are much more to the left. Nick_Palmer is one clear example on PB. You are viewing it from the right.
It does not excuse the insults though.
Does he vote Tory? No, he is a leftwinger whatever version of it you use and agree the insults are inexcusable
So not voting Tory makes you a left winger? Well it’s a view but there are many natural tories for many reasons wont vote Tory at the moment, are they left wing? And there is a center ground which by all sane analysis is neither left or right. You would be more correct to say that those not voting Tory are to the left of you (possibly) but may not be left wing.
Under FPTP in the UK if you do not vote Tory it can generally be said you are left of centre, especially when as now we have a Tory majority Government in the country as a whole
Having now introduced the word ‘center’ I’m afraid your talking rubbish as to some the Tory party is a long way from center. But I can’t be srsed with this it’s irrelevant.
How are the LibDems, who took part in a Conservative-led coalition (no trite ww2 comparisons please), left-wing? The SNP looks centrist, albeit with a wide straddle to both left and right. The question is where you'd place the Tories now Rishi has imbibed the spirit of John McDonnell. Economically, Ed Davey is furthest right.
I'm not sure I am on board with the 'whatever it takes' slogan. If we all have to self immolate using cheap petrol as the ultimate Corona attack plan, I am not up for it.
"Beating Boris around the head with an inflated puffer fish...."
"Whatever it takes...."
In the full knowledge I will regret asking...
What is a puffer fish?
Its a fish that inflates itself with air to ward of predators often covered in spines and contains a toxin associated with haitian zombie practise tetrodotoxin I believe
Odd what people don't know. I'd have been sure that ydoethur would have heard of puffer-fish.
Fugu is the Japanese name for one variety at least. Fugu in the fish-and-chips chain would be far worse than covid19!
On renters saying they will be protected from no fault evictions is spectacularly missing the point. They want protection from eviction for not paying the rent because they have lost their job due to govt shutting down the economy.
So as suspected not much for the underlings
I think it will come, the pressure will be inevitable but a complete lack of comprehension of life renting within the cabinet of multi millionaires shows they dont get it.
They have got non eviction for non payment of rent, what more do they want?
and who the hell is going to be taxed to pay for the rich people being bailed out again.....you and people like you are exactly why I refuse to vote tory
Are rich people getting bailed out?
The govt are giving guarantees to banks for home owners mortgage payments. They are not offering the equivalent to renters.
Given home owners are on average richer than renters it shouldnt be controversial that the support is more targeted at the rich.
Similarly, little has been done for those in the gig economy or sole traders beyond offering a pitiful amount of SSP or benefits for those needing to isolate.
Just to be clear, those guarantees are to protect the *banks* not the home owners
Agreed my elderly father asked me today , if I thought that banks could collapse due to defaults on debt..
I suppose that will only be a problem if they have to start paying out a load of their savers, and as no bugger will be spending anything because everything's shut...
well I seem to be spending more since this all started I have to admit
On renters saying they will be protected from no fault evictions is spectacularly missing the point. They want protection from eviction for not paying the rent because they have lost their job due to govt shutting down the economy.
So as suspected not much for the underlings
I think it will come, the pressure will be inevitable but a complete lack of comprehension of life renting within the cabinet of multi millionaires shows they dont get it.
They have got non eviction for non payment of rent, what more do they want?
and who the hell is going to be taxed to pay for the rich people being bailed out again.....you and people like you are exactly why I refuse to vote tory
Are rich people getting bailed out?
The govt are giving guarantees to banks for home owners mortgage payments. They are not offering the equivalent to renters.
Given home owners are on average richer than renters it shouldnt be controversial that the support is more targeted at the rich.
Similarly, little has been done for those in the gig economy or sole traders beyond offering a pitiful amount of SSP or benefits for those needing to isolate.
Just to be clear, those guarantees are to protect the *banks* not the home owners
Agreed my elderly father asked me today , if I thought that banks could collapse due to defaults on debt..
I suppose that will only be a problem if they have to start paying out a load of their savers, and as no bugger will be spending anything because everything's shut...
The banks have massive capital buffers after the shitstorm of 2008/9.
I'm not sure I am on board with the 'whatever it takes' slogan. If we all have to self immolate using cheap petrol as the ultimate Corona attack plan, I am not up for it.
"Beating Boris around the head with an inflated puffer fish...."
"Whatever it takes...."
In the full knowledge I will regret asking...
What is a puffer fish?
Its a fish that inflates itself with air to ward of predators often covered in spines and contains a toxin associated with haitian zombie practise tetrodotoxin I believe
Odd what people don't know. I'd have been sure that ydoethur would have heard of puffer-fish.
Fugu is the Japanese name for one variety at least. Fugu in the fish-and-chips chain would be far worse than covid19!
well I only know because when I was a kid and was laid up with the pox my mother bought me a look and learn annual which had an article on puffer fish happy memories
Apparently the 475 deaths excludes data from Parma and Campania. Parma has reported 34 new deaths, so Italy becomes the first nation to officially pass 500 deaths in a day.
Given that Italy is probably about the average temperature we can expect come the summer, that doesn't bode terribly well.
I'm starting to think I was unfair to Eadric. (I'll never hear the last of it if he sees this comment...)
There is no sign whatsoever that we are heading for two million deaths, or anything near.
Well, possibly not. But it's already heading past five figures (assuming China and Iran are not telling the truth about the number of deaths) and it shows no sign of slowing. It's left SARS and AIDS trailing and is fast catching up with swineflu. But the efforts to contain it are likely to prove just as lethal.
It’s slowing in South Korea and I have no reason to suspect they are cooking the books
On renters saying they will be protected from no fault evictions is spectacularly missing the point. They want protection from eviction for not paying the rent because they have lost their job due to govt shutting down the economy.
So as suspected not much for the underlings
I think it will come, the pressure will be inevitable but a complete lack of comprehension of life renting within the cabinet of multi millionaires shows they dont get it.
They have got non eviction for non payment of rent, what more do they want?
and who the hell is going to be taxed to pay for the rich people being bailed out again.....you and people like you are exactly why I refuse to vote tory
Are rich people getting bailed out?
The govt are giving guarantees to banks for home owners mortgage payments. They are not offering the equivalent to renters.
Given home owners are on average richer than renters it shouldnt be controversial that the support is more targeted at the rich.
Similarly, little has been done for those in the gig economy or sole traders beyond offering a pitiful amount of SSP or benefits for those needing to isolate.
Just to be clear, those guarantees are to protect the *banks* not the home owners
Agreed my elderly father asked me today , if I thought that banks could collapse due to defaults on debt..
I suppose that will only be a problem if they have to start paying out a load of their savers, and as no bugger will be spending anything because everything's shut...
The banks have massive capital buffers after the shitstorm of 2008/9.
I will regret saying this wont I?
I hope not, but you might. I have been worrying for a while that the world economy was still heavily over-leveraged.
I think the government should force companies who use the facility to suspend shareholder dividends and force bondholders to take haircuts as well. It's no use giving corporates £330bn in free liquidity and then they just spunk it on buybacks and dividends. I'd also make the loans into "loans" by lending at 0% and having an undetermined redemption date. That way the government still gets to show an asset but the company isn't actually taking on any real liability.
Agreed (largely) -- (broken record mode=on) the student loan model of cheap or even free loans but with repayments contingent on the firms (or borrowers) having made an adequate recovery.
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Apparently the 475 deaths excludes data from Parma and Campania. Parma has reported 34 new deaths, so Italy becomes the first nation to officially pass 500 deaths in a day.
Given that Italy is probably about the average temperature we can expect come the summer, that doesn't bode terribly well.
I'm starting to think I was unfair to Eadric. (I'll never hear the last of it if he sees this comment...)
There is no sign whatsoever that we are heading for two million deaths, or anything near.
Well, possibly not. But it's already heading past five figures (assuming China and Iran are not telling the truth about the number of deaths) and it shows no sign of slowing. It's left SARS and AIDS trailing and is fast catching up with swineflu. But the efforts to contain it are likely to prove just as lethal.
Sean’s 2 million calculation was JUST for the UK
Yes, well, it's Sean. Never knowingly failed to predict every possible outcome (exhibit A, B and C - Sindyref).
But he was a lot closer to right than I was, and I was hardly saying it was going to be a cakewalk.
On renters saying they will be protected from no fault evictions is spectacularly missing the point. They want protection from eviction for not paying the rent because they have lost their job due to govt shutting down the economy.
So as suspected not much for the underlings
I think it will come, the pressure will be inevitable but a complete lack of comprehension of life renting within the cabinet of multi millionaires shows they dont get it.
They have got non eviction for non payment of rent, what more do they want?
and who the hell is going to be taxed to pay for the rich people being bailed out again.....you and people like you are exactly why I refuse to vote tory
Are rich people getting bailed out?
The govt are giving guarantees to banks for home owners mortgage payments. They are not offering the equivalent to renters.
Given home owners are on average richer than renters it shouldnt be controversial that the support is more targeted at the rich.
Similarly, little has been done for those in the gig economy or sole traders beyond offering a pitiful amount of SSP or benefits for those needing to isolate.
Just to be clear, those guarantees are to protect the *banks* not the home owners
Agreed my elderly father asked me today , if I thought that banks could collapse due to defaults on debt..
I suppose that will only be a problem if they have to start paying out a load of their savers, and as no bugger will be spending anything because everything's shut...
The banks have massive capital buffers after the shitstorm of 2008/9.
I will regret saying this wont I?
I hope not, but you might. I have been worrying for a while that the world economy was still heavily over-leveraged.
Definitely. See any number of AEP articles in Telegraph (yes, I know Mr Gloom).
Mass dollar debt all over the place. Junk bonds etc etc.
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Cricket West Indies has offered for England to move its home Test series with West Indies to the Caribbean.
The two sides are currently scheduled to begin a three-match series on June 4, but the coronavirus outbreak is threatening to derail the English summer. The pandemic is expected to reach its peak in the UK in late May through to mid-June, which means the current home international itinerary is bound to undergo some change.
Coronavirus cases have been confirmed in the Caribbean – 13 have been recorded in Jamaica – and last week CWI announced the suspension of all its tournaments from March 16 for a minimum of 30 days. The situation at present is more critical in the UK. At the current time of writing, 104 people in the UK have died after testing positive for coronavirus.
According to ESPNcricinfo, the ECB and CWI have held discussions in recent days, exploring the possibility of rescheduling the series or hosting it in the Caribbean.
“I’ve spoken to Tom Harrison [ECB chief executive] a couple of times in the last few days and assured him that we will be as flexible, supportive and helpful as possible,” Jonny Grave, chief executive of CWI told ESPNcricinfo.
“To that end, yes, we have offered to host the series here in the Caribbean if that is deemed helpful. The ECB would retain all commercial and broadcast rights.
“This is not about us trying to take advantage of the situation. It’s about the cricket community working together at a difficult time for everyone and, one of the many great things about the Caribbean is, we can play cricket all year round. There has long been a special relationship between the cricket communities in the Caribbean and England and we wanted to make it clear we will do everything we can to help.”
May I apologise for my intemperate language earlier to PB and the moderators, just hard hearing of friends being laid off all week and wondering how they pay the rent and feed themselves while others insist the government measures announced so far are protecting them
Evictions have been banned for 3 months so they don't need to worry about paying the rent during that time and the bailout ensures temporary layoffs do not have to lead to permanent unemployment once people can visit restaurants and cafes etc again
Alcohol sections in all the supermarkets I visited this afternoon absolutely blitzed. Which apparently is how most people plan to get through lock-down...
On renters saying they will be protected from no fault evictions is spectacularly missing the point. They want protection from eviction for not paying the rent because they have lost their job due to govt shutting down the economy.
So as suspected not much for the underlings
I think it will come, the pressure will be inevitable but a complete lack of comprehension of life renting within the cabinet of multi millionaires shows they dont get it.
They have got non eviction for non payment of rent, what more do they want?
and who the hell is going to be taxed to pay for the rich people being bailed out again.....you and people like you are exactly why I refuse to vote tory
Are rich people getting bailed out?
The govt are giving guarantees to banks for home owners mortgage payments. They are not offering the equivalent to renters.
Given home owners are on average richer than renters it shouldnt be controversial that the support is more targeted at the rich.
Similarly, little has been done for those in the gig economy or sole traders beyond offering a pitiful amount of SSP or benefits for those needing to isolate.
Just to be clear, those guarantees are to protect the *banks* not the home owners
Agreed my elderly father asked me today , if I thought that banks could collapse due to defaults on debt..
I suppose that will only be a problem if they have to start paying out a load of their savers, and as no bugger will be spending anything because everything's shut...
The banks have massive capital buffers after the shitstorm of 2008/9.
I will regret saying this wont I?
I hope not, but surely the B of E will step in as before , to shore them up if necessary.
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I was talking to this Albanian taxi driver, who shut off the radio because they started playing Radiohead. He was just finishing a pineapple pizza when I got in the cab - said it redefined the peak of the culinary arts. He was also telling me about how he studying Comp Sci at night school and thought that the coursework was rubbish - Python is for kiddyscripters. The he got onto European history.....
May I apologise for my intemperate language earlier to PB and the moderators, just hard hearing of friends being laid off all week and wondering how they pay the rent and feed themselves while others insist the government measures announced so far are protecting them
Evictions have been banned for 3 months so they don't need to worry about paying the rent during that time and the bailout ensures temporary layoffs do not have to lead to permanent unemployment once people can visit restaurants and cafes etc again
It's not just an eviction though, is it? It's damage to credit rating and the need for a good reference from your current landlord when you move out.
Unless you can afford to buy, when you won't need the latter - but the former becomes more critical.
Apparently the 475 deaths excludes data from Parma and Campania. Parma has reported 34 new deaths, so Italy becomes the first nation to officially pass 500 deaths in a day.
Given that Italy is probably about the average temperature we can expect come the summer, that doesn't bode terribly well.
I'm starting to think I was unfair to Eadric. (I'll never hear the last of it if he sees this comment...)
To be honest if we top out at 500 deaths a day we will have done quite well. That would probably keep us under 25k. The growth in Italy’s death toll is no longer exponential. If they are a week away the maximum might be 750. Absolutely horrific but a long, long way away from millions.
May I apologise for my intemperate language earlier to PB and the moderators, just hard hearing of friends being laid off all week and wondering how they pay the rent and feed themselves while others insist the government measures announced so far are protecting them
Evictions have been banned for 3 months so they don't need to worry about paying the rent during that time and the bailout ensures temporary layoffs do not have to lead to permanent unemployment once people can visit restaurants and cafes etc again
Alcohol sections in all the supermarkets I visited this afternoon absolutely blitzed. Which apparently is how most people plan to get through lock-down...
There was a run on booze in my local Lidl when the idea of pubs shutting was first mooted, but seems to have calmed down so far.
I'm not sure why anyone would prioritise toilet paper over bottled beer.
May I apologise for my intemperate language earlier to PB and the moderators, just hard hearing of friends being laid off all week and wondering how they pay the rent and feed themselves while others insist the government measures announced so far are protecting them
Evictions have been banned for 3 months so they don't need to worry about paying the rent during that time and the bailout ensures temporary layoffs do not have to lead to permanent unemployment once people can visit restaurants and cafes etc again
@TheScreamingEagles - I have a ticket for the Friday of the Lords Test. If that becomes a Barbados Test, will my ticket still be valid if I can get a flight out there?
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I'm starting to think the only possible explanation for the very low number of German deaths is that they're not recording the cause of death as coronavirus if an already seriously ill person contracts it just before they pass away, whereas in other countries they are doing so. But I'm not an expert etc.
Alcohol sections in all the supermarkets I visited this afternoon absolutely blitzed. Which apparently is how most people plan to get through lock-down...
There was a run on booze in my local Lidl when the idea of pubs shutting was first mooted, but seems to have calmed down so far.
I'm not sure why anyone would prioritise toilet paper over bottled beer.
Indeed no.
One is something foul tasting that you can't drink.
@TheScreamingEagles - I have a ticket for the Friday of the Lords Test. If that becomes a Barbados Test, will my ticket still be valid if I can get a flight out there?
Well they do say the ECB would retain all commercial rights, so maybe.
@TheScreamingEagles - I have a ticket for the Friday of the Lords Test. If that becomes a Barbados Test, will my ticket still be valid if I can get a flight out there?
May I apologise for my intemperate language earlier to PB and the moderators, just hard hearing of friends being laid off all week and wondering how they pay the rent and feed themselves while others insist the government measures announced so far are protecting them
Evictions have been banned for 3 months so they don't need to worry about paying the rent during that time and the bailout ensures temporary layoffs do not have to lead to permanent unemployment once people can visit restaurants and cafes etc again
It's not just an eviction though, is it? It's damage to credit rating and the need for a good reference from your current landlord when you move out.
Unless you can afford to buy, when you won't need the latter - but the former becomes more critical.
It is hardly difficult to say coronavirus made rental payments difficult for a few months is it
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Let’s talk about AV.
One of Sunday's thread will be about the alternative vote system and why it is the finest voting system in the universe.
May I apologise for my intemperate language earlier to PB and the moderators, just hard hearing of friends being laid off all week and wondering how they pay the rent and feed themselves while others insist the government measures announced so far are protecting them
Evictions have been banned for 3 months so they don't need to worry about paying the rent during that time and the bailout ensures temporary layoffs do not have to lead to permanent unemployment once people can visit restaurants and cafes etc again
Does this mean a mass layoff of bailiffs?
Heart of stone, etc...
Does shutting down of production in Hollywood mean the entire industry of catching, prosecuting, jailing and generally whaling on scumbags like Weinstein is going to collapse?
Shutting all the universities in the US is certainly going to sort out Title 9....
I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
May I apologise for my intemperate language earlier to PB and the moderators, just hard hearing of friends being laid off all week and wondering how they pay the rent and feed themselves while others insist the government measures announced so far are protecting them
Evictions have been banned for 3 months so they don't need to worry about paying the rent during that time and the bailout ensures temporary layoffs do not have to lead to permanent unemployment once people can visit restaurants and cafes etc again
Yes but they will still have to catch up on that rent when they lost their job through no fault of their own which over any reasonable timescale will be hugely stressing whereas the mortgage holiday will add about 5£ a month to repayments after.....to get to that figure renters would need a 50 year repayment plan for missed rent when a lot of them cant stretch their pay from one payday to the next as it is even with careful budgeting
A case study a single mum I know who just lost her job...she doesnt buy drink, she doesnt smoke to pay the rent on her home in worcester took 2/3 of her pay. Towards the end of the month she lives on baked beans on toast for about a week as its all she can afford. How even when back in work is she to find an extra 5£ even to start repaying the missed rent? The only reason she affords some beans on toast at the end of the month is because I help out a bit as it is as she works 35 hours a week. She can't do more because 1) the work isnt there, 2) she cant afford child care. Her rent increases, her utilities increase, her council tax increases every year till she tipped over from making ends meet to not
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I was talking to this Albanian taxi driver, who shut off the radio because they started playing Radiohead. He was just finishing a pineapple pizza when I got in the cab - said it redefined the peak of the culinary arts. He was also telling me about how he studying Comp Sci at night school and thought that the coursework was rubbish - Python is for kiddyscripters. The he got onto European history.....
LOL
Thank you, thank you so much!
I was just trying to wright that myself, but yours in much better.
I'm starting to think the only possible explanation for the very low number of German deaths is that they're not recording the cause of death as coronavirus if an already seriously ill person contracts it just before they pass away, whereas in other countries they are doing so. But I'm not an expert etc.
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Number 9 - I thought I made it clear last night about Python. I do not need to pretend that there are programming languages better than Python. I know there are.
On top of which, the best debugger ever was DEC's on the VAX/VMS series. It was awesome as was their EVE editor.
A magnificent work - much more detail than many more recent biographies.
Is he the one who claimed Nelson's recklessness at Trafalgar was because he sought atonement for his persistent banging of 'That Hamilton Woman' with a glorious death in battle?
On renters saying they will be protected from no fault evictions is spectacularly missing the point. They want protection from eviction for not paying the rent because they have lost their job due to govt shutting down the economy.
So as suspected not much for the underlings
I think it will come, the pressure will be inevitable but a complete lack of comprehension of life renting within the cabinet of multi millionaires shows they dont get it.
They have got non eviction for non payment of rent, what more do they want?
and who the hell is going to be taxed to pay for the rich people being bailed out again.....you and people like you are exactly why I refuse to vote tory
Are rich people getting bailed out?
The govt are giving guarantees to banks for home owners mortgage payments. They are not offering the equivalent to renters.
Given home owners are on average richer than renters it shouldnt be controversial that the support is more targeted at the rich.
Similarly, little has been done for those in the gig economy or sole traders beyond offering a pitiful amount of SSP or benefits for those needing to isolate.
Just to be clear, those guarantees are to protect the *banks* not the home owners
Agreed my elderly father asked me today , if I thought that banks could collapse due to defaults on debt..
I suppose that will only be a problem if they have to start paying out a load of their savers, and as no bugger will be spending anything because everything's shut...
The banks have massive capital buffers after the shitstorm of 2008/9.
I will regret saying this wont I?
I hope not, but surely the B of E will step in as before , to shore them up if necessary.
Helping the rich is what the Bank of England is there for after all
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I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
That seems a bit strange.
The schools that my daughters go to were planning on a shutdown on Friday happening - since early last week.
One private, one state. In the case of the private school moving to teaching on-line.
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Number 9 - I thought I made it clear last night about Python. I do not need to pretend that there are programming languages better than Python. I know there are.
On top of which, the best debugger ever was DEC's on the VAX/VMS series. It was awesome as was their EVE editor.
True, with Perl you can do absolutely anything you want in a single line of code (you can't debug it or maintain it but since when has that been an issue with computer programming).
I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
That seems a bit strange.
I think medical events overtook that.
I think we're headed for a massive increase in cases, and sadly deaths over the next week.
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I was talking to this Albanian taxi driver, who shut off the radio because they started playing Radiohead. He was just finishing a pineapple pizza when I got in the cab - said it redefined the peak of the culinary arts. He was also telling me about how he studying Comp Sci at night school and thought that the coursework was rubbish - Python is for kiddyscripters. The he got onto European history.....
LOL
Thank you, thank you so much!
I was just trying to wright that myself, but yours in much better.
I forgot to mention that we discussed my belief that Australia is a hoax. Denying historical events is for losers. Real wingnuts deny the existence of entire continents.
So we are supposed to believe that a bunch of convicts dumped on a virtually un-inhibitable desert built a liberal democratic country? A place where mammals lay eggs. Where swans are black....
I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
That seems a bit strange.
I think medical events overtook that.
I think we're headed for a massive increase in cases, and sadly deaths over the next week.
I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
That seems a bit strange.
I think medical events overtook that.
I think we're headed for a massive increase in cases, and sadly deaths over the next week.
We're less than 48 hours away from a London lockdown I suspect.
I'm starting to think the only possible explanation for the very low number of German deaths is that they're not recording the cause of death as coronavirus if an already seriously ill person contracts it just before they pass away, whereas in other countries they are doing so. But I'm not an expert etc.
More like their testing all demographics which give us a more accurate death toll which is <1%.</p>
I’m with @AndyJS on this one. The difference is just too large to be explained by demographics alone. Either that or they have found a cure and not shared it yet.
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Number 9 - I thought I made it clear last night about Python. I do not need to pretend that there are programming languages better than Python. I know there are.
On top of which, the best debugger ever was DEC's on the VAX/VMS series. It was awesome as was their EVE editor.
True, with Perl you can do absolutely anything you want in a single line of code (you can't debug it or maintain it but since when has that been an issue with computer programming).
Are we allowed to discuss Regexes? Strictly not a programming language, but they have an opacity all of their own
I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
That seems a bit strange.
The schools that my daughters go to were planning on a shutdown on Friday happening - since early last week.
One private, one state. In the case of the private school moving to teaching on-line.
Well, I have been anticipating for two days that we wouldn't be open Monday, although in my darkest nightmares I never foresaw this.
But what puzzles me is - OK, maybe they didn't want the news leaking and thought telling 25,000 people wasn't a smart way to do that. Fair enough. But why then hold a briefing urging schools to stay open as long as possible, which is what they did? Why not just cancel the briefing and say, 'big announcement at 5pm?'
I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
That seems a bit strange.
I think medical events overtook that.
I think we're headed for a massive increase in cases, and sadly deaths over the next week.
In an hour and a half?
Yes, you saw how the model and strategy changed rapidly earlier on this week.
I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
That seems a bit strange.
I think medical events overtook that.
I think we're headed for a massive increase in cases, and sadly deaths over the next week.
We're less than 48 hours away from a London lockdown I suspect.
You have to get the kids out of school on Friday first.
7.00 pm Friday? If it's midnight, you'll have one last massive lash.....
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Most of the rules are sensible, but those three are the sort of rules that really make me doubt things. What's next, DO NOT DENY THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT?
I am however glad that my conversations with Montenegrin Uber drivers are unaffected.
A magnificent work - much more detail than many more recent biographies.
Is he the one who claimed Nelson's recklessness at Trafalgar was because he sought atonement for his persistent banging of 'That Hamilton Woman' with a glorious death in battle?
No - he actually sets out why Nelson thought he was going to die before he set out. Basically, due to the strategic situation, Nelson reckoned that he would have to fight the Combined fleet with a fleet of half their numbers. So his plan was to divide them in 2 and crush the first half. The second half would catch up with his ships - which would have lost masts etc and so Nelson reckoned that his fleet would be destroyed. Taking most of the second wave with him. Which would prevent an invasion of Britain for at least a year.
In the event, he was lucky and they managed to reinforce his fleet to about equal to the French/Spanish force.
Mahan actually gives a rather balanced portrait of Hamilton - gives views and comments from the likers and the loathers.
I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
That seems a bit strange.
I think medical events overtook that.
I think we're headed for a massive increase in cases, and sadly deaths over the next week.
We're less than 48 hours away from a London lockdown I suspect.
"I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm."
If they told Headteachers at 3:30, then a) it would leak within a nanosecond b) It would be ahead of the formal announcement in HoC at 5pm. The Speaker has been expressing displeasure at press briefings and so on that preempt HoC.
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I’ve only broken six of those. I’ve yet to criticise Radiohead.
I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
That seems a bit strange.
I think medical events overtook that.
I think we're headed for a massive increase in cases, and sadly deaths over the next week.
We're less than 48 hours away from a London lockdown I suspect.
"I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm."
If they told Headteachers at 3:30, then a) it would leak within a nanosecond b) It would be ahead of the formal announcement in HoC at 5pm. The Speaker has been expressing displeasure at press briefings and so on that preempt HoC.
Well - as I knew of the upcoming shutdown of schools last weekend I really find that hard to believe
I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
That seems a bit strange.
I think medical events overtook that.
I think we're headed for a massive increase in cases, and sadly deaths over the next week.
We probably need to just get on with the deaths. Hiding away en-masse seems likely to cause greater trouble. You can't just expect that the economy will put itself back together. It'll be good in doing so, but there will be gaps.
Apologies to anyone that does actually die, and cheerio if it's me that does!
A magnificent work - much more detail than many more recent biographies.
Is he the one who claimed Nelson's recklessness at Trafalgar was because he sought atonement for his persistent banging of 'That Hamilton Woman' with a glorious death in battle?
No - he actually sets out why Nelson thought he was going to die before he set out. Basically, due to the strategic situation, Nelson reckoned that he would have to fight the Combined fleet with a fleet of half their numbers. So his plan was to divide them in 2 and crush the first half. The second half would catch up with his ships - which would have lost masts etc and so Nelson reckoned that his fleet would be destroyed. Taking most of the second wave with him. Which would prevent an invasion of Britain for at least a year.
In the event, he was lucky and they managed to reinforce his fleet to about equal to the French/Spanish force.
Mahan actually gives a rather balanced portrait of Hamilton - gives views and comments from the likers and the loathers.
Haven't come across that then. It sounds interesting. I will add it to my list.
I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
That seems a bit strange.
I think medical events overtook that.
I think we're headed for a massive increase in cases, and sadly deaths over the next week.
We're less than 48 hours away from a London lockdown I suspect.
"I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm."
If they told Headteachers at 3:30, then a) it would leak within a nanosecond b) It would be ahead of the formal announcement in HoC at 5pm. The Speaker has been expressing displeasure at press briefings and so on that preempt HoC.
When the Chancellor announces £330bn of spending at a press conference he rather has a point.
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I was talking to this Albanian taxi driver, who shut off the radio because they started playing Radiohead. He was just finishing a pineapple pizza when I got in the cab - said it redefined the peak of the culinary arts. He was also telling me about how he studying Comp Sci at night school and thought that the coursework was rubbish - Python is for kiddyscripters. The he got onto European history.....
LOL
Thank you, thank you so much!
I was just trying to wright that myself, but yours in much better.
I forgot to mention that we discussed my belief that Australia is a hoax. Denying historical events is for losers. Real wingnuts deny the existence of entire continents.
So we are supposed to believe that a bunch of convicts dumped on a virtually un-inhibitable desert built a liberal democratic country? A place where mammals lay eggs. Where swans are black....
Did you know that Herodotus of Halicarnassus, the Greek historian who is often referred to as the 'Father of history', beveled that the British isles where a hoax.
I have just been told that headteachers were given no warning of any of today's announcements. This is despite the DfE hosting a briefing of Headteachers at 3.30pm.
That seems a bit strange.
I think medical events overtook that.
I think we're headed for a massive increase in cases, and sadly deaths over the next week.
We probably need to just get on with the deaths. Hiding away en-masse seems likely to cause greater trouble. You can't just expect that the economy will put itself back together. It'll be good in doing so, but there will be gaps.
Apologies to anyone that does actually die, and cheerio if it's me that does!
I've been in contact with an economist today, he's convinced we'll see a 'V' shaped recession/depression and recovery.
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Number 9 - I thought I made it clear last night about Python. I do not need to pretend that there are programming languages better than Python. I know there are.
On top of which, the best debugger ever was DEC's on the VAX/VMS series. It was awesome as was their EVE editor.
True, with Perl you can do absolutely anything you want in a single line of code (you can't debug it or maintain it but since when has that been an issue with computer programming).
Are we allowed to discuss Regexes? Strictly not a programming language, but they have an opacity all of their own
Regexes make absolute sense when you get to know them. You actually get a Plato-wandering-out-of-the-cave moment. The universe seems that much clearer. I'd recommend the book by Jeffrey Friedl - possibly the greatest IT guide ever written.
A magnificent work - much more detail than many more recent biographies.
Is he the one who claimed Nelson's recklessness at Trafalgar was because he sought atonement for his persistent banging of 'That Hamilton Woman' with a glorious death in battle?
No - he actually sets out why Nelson thought he was going to die before he set out. Basically, due to the strategic situation, Nelson reckoned that he would have to fight the Combined fleet with a fleet of half their numbers. So his plan was to divide them in 2 and crush the first half. The second half would catch up with his ships - which would have lost masts etc and so Nelson reckoned that his fleet would be destroyed. Taking most of the second wave with him. Which would prevent an invasion of Britain for at least a year.
In the event, he was lucky and they managed to reinforce his fleet to about equal to the French/Spanish force.
Mahan actually gives a rather balanced portrait of Hamilton - gives views and comments from the likers and the loathers.
Haven't come across that then. It sounds interesting. I will add it to my list.
It is hagiography in places - hard to find a 19th Cent sailor who didn't basically worship Nelson - but full of detail and facts.
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I was talking to this Albanian taxi driver, who shut off the radio because they started playing Radiohead. He was just finishing a pineapple pizza when I got in the cab - said it redefined the peak of the culinary arts. He was also telling me about how he studying Comp Sci at night school and thought that the coursework was rubbish - Python is for kiddyscripters. The he got onto European history.....
LOL
Thank you, thank you so much!
I was just trying to wright that myself, but yours in much better.
I forgot to mention that we discussed my belief that Australia is a hoax. Denying historical events is for losers. Real wingnuts deny the existence of entire continents.
So we are supposed to believe that a bunch of convicts dumped on a virtually un-inhibitable desert built a liberal democratic country? A place where mammals lay eggs. Where swans are black....
Did you know that Herodotus of Halicarnassus, the Greek historian who is often referred to as the 'Father of history', beveled that the British isles where a hoax.
Not more of a hoax than the suggestion Australia is 'liberal...'
While Froude basically takes Caesar side, there is a vast amount of detail in this work. Including some great explanations of *why* some of this stuff happened.
Paul Kruger, President of the Boer Republics, was one of history's very few actual flat-earthers. On one occasion he met a sailor who had voyaged all around the world.
Kruger's response was, 'You cannot have done! It is flat!'
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I was talking to this Albanian taxi driver, who shut off the radio because they started playing Radiohead. He was just finishing a pineapple pizza when I got in the cab - said it redefined the peak of the culinary arts. He was also telling me about how he studying Comp Sci at night school and thought that the coursework was rubbish - Python is for kiddyscripters. The he got onto European history.....
LOL
Thank you, thank you so much!
I was just trying to wright that myself, but yours in much better.
I forgot to mention that we discussed my belief that Australia is a hoax. Denying historical events is for losers. Real wingnuts deny the existence of entire continents.
So we are supposed to believe that a bunch of convicts dumped on a virtually un-inhibitable desert built a liberal democratic country? A place where mammals lay eggs. Where swans are black....
Did you know that Herodotus of Halicarnassus, the Greek historian who is often referred to as the 'Father of history', beveled that the British isles where a hoax.
Not more of a hoax than the suggestion Australia is 'liberal...'
They are run by the Liberal Party according to the hoaxers.
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I was talking to this Albanian taxi driver, who shut off the radio because they started playing Radiohead. He was just finishing a pineapple pizza when I got in the cab - said it redefined the peak of the culinary arts. He was also telling me about how he studying Comp Sci at night school and thought that the coursework was rubbish - Python is for kiddyscripters. The he got onto European history.....
LOL
Thank you, thank you so much!
I was just trying to wright that myself, but yours in much better.
I forgot to mention that we discussed my belief that Australia is a hoax. Denying historical events is for losers. Real wingnuts deny the existence of entire continents.
So we are supposed to believe that a bunch of convicts dumped on a virtually un-inhibitable desert built a liberal democratic country? A place where mammals lay eggs. Where swans are black....
Did you know that Herodotus of Halicarnassus, the Greek historian who is often referred to as the 'Father of history', beveled that the British isles where a hoax.
Not more of a hoax than the suggestion Australia is 'liberal...'
They are run by the Liberal Party according to the hoaxers.
Calling Scott Morrison 'Liberal' is the biggest hoax since Piltdown Man.
We probably need to just get on with the deaths. Hiding away en-masse seems likely to cause greater trouble.
The problem could be that half the country will hide away and half won't. The half that won't are keeping the deaths too high for the half that will to safely come out of hiding
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...there's always Sporcle:
https://www.sporcle.com/
The UK is a real outlier here with almost all house building going on by big companys, because the rules are so complex and planing outcomes seemingly arbetary. in a reformed system there would be a lot more smaller house builders, so hording land would be higly unprofitable.
Now Williamson, Patel, Raab and Boris playing "catch" with an inflated puffer fish...
https://www.sporcle.com/games/dolebanana/alllotr
Fugu is the Japanese name for one variety at least. Fugu in the fish-and-chips chain would be far worse than covid19!
I will regret saying this wont I?
happy memories
https://www.sporcle.com/games/g/elements
https://www.sporcle.com/games/g/world
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But he was a lot closer to right than I was, and I was hardly saying it was going to be a cakewalk.
Mass dollar debt all over the place. Junk bonds etc etc.
https://www.sporcle.com/games/PumpkinBomb/fruit
Cricket West Indies has offered for England to move its home Test series with West Indies to the Caribbean.
The two sides are currently scheduled to begin a three-match series on June 4, but the coronavirus outbreak is threatening to derail the English summer. The pandemic is expected to reach its peak in the UK in late May through to mid-June, which means the current home international itinerary is bound to undergo some change.
Coronavirus cases have been confirmed in the Caribbean – 13 have been recorded in Jamaica – and last week CWI announced the suspension of all its tournaments from March 16 for a minimum of 30 days. The situation at present is more critical in the UK. At the current time of writing, 104 people in the UK have died after testing positive for coronavirus.
According to ESPNcricinfo, the ECB and CWI have held discussions in recent days, exploring the possibility of rescheduling the series or hosting it in the Caribbean.
“I’ve spoken to Tom Harrison [ECB chief executive] a couple of times in the last few days and assured him that we will be as flexible, supportive and helpful as possible,” Jonny Grave, chief executive of CWI told ESPNcricinfo.
“To that end, yes, we have offered to host the series here in the Caribbean if that is deemed helpful. The ECB would retain all commercial and broadcast rights.
“This is not about us trying to take advantage of the situation. It’s about the cricket community working together at a difficult time for everyone and, one of the many great things about the Caribbean is, we can play cricket all year round. There has long been a special relationship between the cricket communities in the Caribbean and England and we wanted to make it clear we will do everything we can to help.”
https://www.wisden.com/stories/cricket-west-indies-home-tests
Unless you can afford to buy, when you won't need the latter - but the former becomes more critical.
I'm not sure why anyone would prioritise toilet paper over bottled beer.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
One is something foul tasting that you can't drink.
And you wipe your arse with the other...
Shutting all the universities in the US is certainly going to sort out Title 9....
That seems a bit strange.
A case study a single mum I know who just lost her job...she doesnt buy drink, she doesnt smoke to pay the rent on her home in worcester took 2/3 of her pay. Towards the end of the month she lives on baked beans on toast for about a week as its all she can afford. How even when back in work is she to find an extra 5£ even to start repaying the missed rent? The only reason she affords some beans on toast at the end of the month is because I help out a bit as it is as she works 35 hours a week. She can't do more because 1) the work isnt there, 2) she cant afford child care. Her rent increases, her utilities increase, her council tax increases every year till she tipped over from making ends meet to not
Don't know if this has been mentioned - zillions of out of copyright books for free.
To start the ball rolling
Admiral Mahan's (yes, that one) Life of Nelson -
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16914
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16915
A magnificent work - much more detail than many more recent biographies.
Thank you, thank you so much!
I was just trying to wright that myself, but yours in much better.
On top of which, the best debugger ever was DEC's on the VAX/VMS series. It was awesome as was their EVE editor.
One private, one state. In the case of the private school moving to teaching on-line.
I think we're headed for a massive increase in cases, and sadly deaths over the next week.
So we are supposed to believe that a bunch of convicts dumped on a virtually un-inhibitable desert built a liberal democratic country? A place where mammals lay eggs. Where swans are black....
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/opinion/coronavirus-uk-nhs.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
(Not one for the faint hearted to read).
But what puzzles me is - OK, maybe they didn't want the news leaking and thought telling 25,000 people wasn't a smart way to do that. Fair enough. But why then hold a briefing urging schools to stay open as long as possible, which is what they did? Why not just cancel the briefing and say, 'big announcement at 5pm?'
7.00 pm Friday? If it's midnight, you'll have one last massive lash.....
> 4. DO NOT CRITICISE RADIOHEAD
> 7. DO NOT INCITE THE PLACING OF PINEAPPLE ON PIZZA
Most of the rules are sensible, but those three are the sort of rules that really make me doubt things. What's next, DO NOT DENY THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT?
I am however glad that my conversations with Montenegrin Uber drivers are unaffected.
Even at this early stage.....
In the event, he was lucky and they managed to reinforce his fleet to about equal to the French/Spanish force.
Mahan actually gives a rather balanced portrait of Hamilton - gives views and comments from the likers and the loathers.
If they told Headteachers at 3:30, then a) it would leak within a nanosecond b) It would be ahead of the formal announcement in HoC at 5pm. The Speaker has been expressing displeasure at press briefings and so on that preempt HoC.
It might come sooner rather than later, paper receipts are a bit of a fomite for virii.
Apologies to anyone that does actually die, and cheerio if it's me that does!
Or is it just everyone is rushing for dollars?
Edit/ and as you say, with an election looming the markets probably think Trump won’t hold back
Robert is of course completely wrong as he is about so much else.
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Caesar: A Sketch by James Anthony Froude
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/8425
While Froude basically takes Caesar side, there is a vast amount of detail in this work. Including some great explanations of *why* some of this stuff happened.
Paul Kruger, President of the Boer Republics, was one of history's very few actual flat-earthers. On one occasion he met a sailor who had voyaged all around the world.
Kruger's response was, 'You cannot have done! It is flat!'