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Now from @SportingIndex spread betting on Boris's daily briefing https://t.co/kd6N9wj1NK pic.twitter.com/UHZB5tiqzD

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  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Fail. Stop it.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Seems inappropriate but amusing.

    I'd suggest "Whatever it takes" and "Protect Lives" are buys.
  • Shameful from Sporting Index.

    What we really want is a market on which famous politicians/cabinet members/celebrities get it.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,935
    Finally. Something to bet on.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    It seems harmless enough; people stuck indoors have to get amusement when they can. Certainly more harmless than speculating on who might die.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,695
    edited March 2020
    FPT
    MaxPB said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:
    11,302 / 27 now
    Assuming the figures are accurate, other governments may need to consider sending taskforces to Germany to find out why they're being so successful in combating the virus.
    Germany is testing a lot more people so they are catching a lot of the huge number of asymptomatic people. The UK and other countries are only testing those with symptoms so it shows a higher mortality rate.
    Where are you getting your German testing numbers from? - I struggled to find any.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,695
    Betting is another sector that's likely to be severley damaged - I hadn't thought of that.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    Orange Man up now...looks like Boris press conference is getting shifted back.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    edited March 2020
    Straight off the bat, VCCCHINNNANESE VIRUS.....
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    Defense Production Act to be enacted.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,601
    "The South American nation of Uruguay has reported 50 cases of coronavirus, a disproportionately large amount for this small nation of under 3.5 million inhabitants. (Argentina, next door, population 45 million, has only 79 reported cases).
    Doctors are talking of an “explosive growth” in numbers, say local press reports, after the first four cases were reported only last Friday.
    About 20 of the cases have been traced back to a single socialite from the capital city of Montevideo who went to a 500-guest wedding the same night after she returned from Spain on 7 March.
    The woman in question, Carmela Hontou, who has been diagnosed with the virus, has been giving interviews defending her assistance and adding that she also had lunch with her 84-year-old mother upon arrival and went to a lunch the next day “where there were also a lot of people.”
    Asked by a reporter if she didn’t consider it unwise to mingle in large crowds, given her situation, Hontou answered: “That’s ridiculous, plus, do you know how many people came in that plane?”
    Audio WhatsApp messages by friends of the woman and other wedding guests have circulated widely in Uruguay, expressing disbelief and anger at her attitude. The authorities have also intervened in the case of Hontou’s two sons, after security guards at her building reported to the authorities Tuesday that they have been allegedly visiting their mother and then going about their business as usual in Montevideo."

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/18/coronavirus-live-news-updates-outbreak-us-states-uk-australia-europe-eu-self-isolation-lockdown-latest-update
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,932

    Seems inappropriate but amusing.

    I'd suggest "Whatever it takes" and "Protect Lives" are buys.

    Does Boris say "whatever it takes" or is that Rishi's own catchphrase?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,935
    Andy_JS said:

    "The South American nation of Uruguay has reported 50 cases of coronavirus, a disproportionately large amount for this small nation of under 3.5 million inhabitants. (Argentina, next door, population 45 million, has only 79 reported cases).
    Doctors are talking of an “explosive growth” in numbers, say local press reports, after the first four cases were reported only last Friday.
    About 20 of the cases have been traced back to a single socialite from the capital city of Montevideo who went to a 500-guest wedding the same night after she returned from Spain on 7 March.
    The woman in question, Carmela Hontou, who has been diagnosed with the virus, has been giving interviews defending her assistance and adding that she also had lunch with her 84-year-old mother upon arrival and went to a lunch the next day “where there were also a lot of people.”
    Asked by a reporter if she didn’t consider it unwise to mingle in large crowds, given her situation, Hontou answered: “That’s ridiculous, plus, do you know how many people came in that plane?”
    Audio WhatsApp messages by friends of the woman and other wedding guests have circulated widely in Uruguay, expressing disbelief and anger at her attitude. The authorities have also intervened in the case of Hontou’s two sons, after security guards at her building reported to the authorities Tuesday that they have been allegedly visiting their mother and then going about their business as usual in Montevideo."

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/18/coronavirus-live-news-updates-outbreak-us-states-uk-australia-europe-eu-self-isolation-lockdown-latest-update

    Super-spreader.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    edited March 2020
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Whats a hospital ship Mr Trump?

    Its a big white ship with a big red cross.

    Almost straight out of Airplane! Trump tired and stressed.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,489
    Bernie on the drift again.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,218
    It is worth noting that - with the sporting calendar almost entirely shut off - things like this will be rare moneyspinners for bookmakers.

    Support a bookmaker. Make a bet. You know it makes sense.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,806
    For those interested, PS5 hardware is being revealed currently.

    Not my kind of livestream, but know we have some other gamers here.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    Kirsty Williams, the Welsh government’s education minister, said that she did not expect the schools to go back to normal after Easter. She also said that she did not expect the exam period to proceed.

    Nobody is going anywhere for several months.
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    FPT
    MaxPB said:

    On Scottish independence, the big bazooka is the power of being in the Union. The Scottish government would never be able to sell £40-50bn worth of bonds as an independent nation and the UK government wouldn't allow for the BoE to buy Scottish Sterling bonds as they have no control over policy.

    In times of crisis having a viable currency and central bank is really important.

    Smaller governing units are indeed more constrained by the reality of the market than big ones, however this is a good thing. it will stop, or at least make it harder for them to terrible things to there nations long term health, like this exercise at throwing money perceived problems, and then when it makes things worse, calming 'it would even worse if we did not blow all the money so recklessly.

    I seem to be the only one oh here with such opinions, so I will try not to be a boor by going on and on about it, but I do want to state for the record that this will not help, there may be a few contrary that avoid this sort of thing and in the long run will be much better for it. I would like to think that at that point, at least somebody remembers and reflects on this warning,

  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,176
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,935

    For those interested, PS5 hardware is being revealed currently.

    Not my kind of livestream, but know we have some other gamers here.

    Does it cure coronavirus? :p
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    A prisoner at HMP Manchester has tested positive for Covid-19 – the first in the UK to do so – and is currently in hospital, the BBC’s Danny Shaw reports.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    One thing I've not seen mentioned by anyone yet but I hope while businesses like restaurants and bars etc are shut down someone is thinking about security - especially while schools are shut too.

    Having many suddenly unoccupied premises, a large number of which may not have shutters - and a load of idle teenagers hanging around not all of whom will be up to good - could be a recipe for disaster.

    There's an assumption many are showing that businesses once shut can quickly resume business afterwards. Not true if the business is trashed by chavs.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,806
    Mr. D, uncertain, but the chap doing it has such a relaxing voice he should read bedtime stories.

    Lots of stuff about SSDs.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    Listening to Trump then Pence, it is like having a toddler tell you what is happening followed by their parents.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,935

    Mr. D, uncertain, but the chap doing it has such a relaxing voice he should read bedtime stories.

    Lots of stuff about SSDs.

    SSD? I've had one of those in my PC for donkey's years now.

    :smiley:
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    Seems inappropriate but amusing.

    I'd suggest "Whatever it takes" and "Protect Lives" are buys.

    Does Boris say "whatever it takes" or is that Rishi's own catchphrase?
    I seem to recall he said it in reply to almost every question in PMQs yesterday. Clearly been given as the line to take even if Rishi coined it.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    "Spread" betting is an unfortunate term, under the circumstances.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,226

    Seems inappropriate but amusing.

    I'd suggest "Whatever it takes" and "Protect Lives" are buys.

    I like the NHS quote. That feels like a professional sell at 12 to me.

    But what if he says "National Health Service"? People sometimes do. Need to check on that.
  • 32 more dead.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,806
    Mr. D, yeah, well, some of us are 'umble console peasants :p
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,695
    edited March 2020

    Seems inappropriate but amusing.

    I'd suggest "Whatever it takes" and "Protect Lives" are buys.

    Does Boris say "whatever it takes" or is that Rishi's own catchphrase?
    I seem to recall he said it in reply to almost every question in PMQs yesterday. Clearly been given as the line to take even if Rishi coined it.
    Status Quo songs weirdly coming to the fore:

    'After Dow Down Deeper and Down' we now have 'Whatever You Want'

    Which one next?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,932

    One thing I've not seen mentioned by anyone yet but I hope while businesses like restaurants and bars etc are shut down someone is thinking about security - especially while schools are shut too.

    Having many suddenly unoccupied premises, a large number of which may not have shutters - and a load of idle teenagers hanging around not all of whom will be up to good - could be a recipe for disaster.

    There's an assumption many are showing that businesses once shut can quickly resume business afterwards. Not true if the business is trashed by chavs.

    Good point, though thieves targeting booze and toilet rolls will likely have left school years ago. Gangs of youths stabbing each other in turf wars is more of a risk, school-wise.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,601
    I hope the government continues to allow people to leave their residence for the purpose of exercise, even if the lockdown gets more stringent.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,935
    I'm going to file this under "not important" for the time being.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    Justin Trudeau announces closure of US-Canada border for all non-essential travel

    I thought he was supposed to be isolating?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,935
    Andy_JS said:

    I hope the government continues to allow people to leave their residence for the purpose of exercise, even if the lockdown gets more stringent.

    So long as you don't take the piss and spend more than ten minutes outside. ;)
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    One thing I've not seen mentioned by anyone yet but I hope while businesses like restaurants and bars etc are shut down someone is thinking about security - especially while schools are shut too.

    Having many suddenly unoccupied premises, a large number of which may not have shutters - and a load of idle teenagers hanging around not all of whom will be up to good - could be a recipe for disaster.

    There's an assumption many are showing that businesses once shut can quickly resume business afterwards. Not true if the business is trashed by chavs.

    Good point, though thieves targeting booze and toilet rolls will likely have left school years ago. Gangs of youths stabbing each other in turf wars is more of a risk, school-wise.
    Some will break not just targeting booze and toilet rolls but for shits and giggles looking to smash stuff up or spraypaint their tags and other mature stuff like that.

    A restaurant with its windows smashed, kitchen equipment smashed, glasses, crockery etc smashed and walls spraypainted etc may struggle to re-open. If the business is unoccupied, that could affect its insurance too. Somebody needs to be thinking these things through.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    edited March 2020

    Shameful from Sporting Index.

    What we really want is a market on which famous politicians/cabinet members/celebrities get it.

    How many MPs get it...

    Actually, on a more serious note, with sport largely closed down, bookies and non-financial spread bet firms must be in big trouble.

    Edit: I see @Benpointer has already made this point.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119

    Shameful from Sporting Index.

    What we really want is a market on which famous politicians/cabinet members/celebrities get it.

    How many MPs get it...

    Actually, on a more serious note, with sport largely closed down, bookies and non-financial spread bet firms must be in big trouble.
    Most these days have vertically integrated casino and poker products.
  • Have been out checking the stock situation in Tesco / Co-op / Asda / Morrisons:

    Tesco. Relatively quiet in terms of people, but significant sections of the store had been stripped
    Co-op. Nowhere near as bad as Tesco. Bog Roll aisle completely bare. Printed signs on shelf advising 1 unit per customer, but no products at all for sale
    Asda. Heavily shopped, the bulk lager section had been picked clean!
    Morrisons. Quite busy but again large sections wiped out. Checkout lass said its been horrible all week. "People come surging in at 7am when the doors open, look for stuff we don't have like toilet rolls then start shouting at us."

    Will now up planned production vs my recommendation of lunchtime. Retailer data systems not keeping up with reality in store. Have had some relatively large orders on relatively slow lines where 12 weeks of stock appears to have gone in 12 days. A lot of people planning to bake yummy gluten free bread whilst stuck at home...
  • Shameful from Sporting Index.

    What we really want is a market on which famous politicians/cabinet members/celebrities get it.

    How many MPs get it...

    Actually, on a more serious note, with sport largely closed down, bookies and non-financial spread bet firms must be in big trouble.
    You know all those long term bets where I said the only way you wouldn’t get paid out is either death or if the bookie goes bust......
  • FPT

    MaxPB said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Andy_JS said:
    11,302 / 27 now
    Assuming the figures are accurate, other governments may need to consider sending taskforces to Germany to find out why they're being so successful in combating the virus.
    Germany is testing a lot more people so they are catching a lot of the huge number of asymptomatic people. The UK and other countries are only testing those with symptoms so it shows a higher mortality rate.
    Where are you getting your German testing numbers from? - I struggled to find any.
    Looking at Worldometer they have added detailed graphs for some of the larger countries making it easier to see who is fiddling the figures.

    If you look at Italy, the graph for new cases per day and new deaths per day follow a similar pattern with deaths lagging cases by about 4 days.

    If you look at Iran, the graph for new deaths shows a steady increase, while the graph of new cases has flattened out at about 1,000-1,200 per day. This clearly shows Iran is fiddling the figures (or they simply aren't testing enough.)


  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821

    Shameful from Sporting Index.

    What we really want is a market on which famous politicians/cabinet members/celebrities get it.

    How many MPs get it...

    Actually, on a more serious note, with sport largely closed down, bookies and non-financial spread bet firms must be in big trouble.
    You know all those long term bets where I said the only way you wouldn’t get paid out is either death or if the bookie goes bust......
    Yes, quite... I think I might check my accounts...
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,806
    edited March 2020
    Lots of tech-talk, mostly above my head, but sounds like PS4 backwards compatibility will be included.

    Edited extra bit: not 100% of games but the vast majority.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,932

    Seems inappropriate but amusing.

    I'd suggest "Whatever it takes" and "Protect Lives" are buys.

    Does Boris say "whatever it takes" or is that Rishi's own catchphrase?
    I seem to recall he said it in reply to almost every question in PMQs yesterday. Clearly been given as the line to take even if Rishi coined it.
    Speaking of PMQs, I note one MP risked germ warfare on the tube and in a socially distanced Commons chamber to ask the Prime Minister:
    The Chancellor yesterday unveiled a wide range of measures to tackle coronavirus. Does my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister agree that it is vital that we do whatever we can to get through this as a country?

    Anyway, it turns out Boris does agree we should do whatever we can to get through this as a country, so the MP's sacrifice was not in vain and has added bigly to the sum of human knowledge. Well done that MP.
    https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2020-03-18/debates/FF72C6C5-CAFD-4A44-ADDF-E9A286941F50/Rhondda#contribution-9F90FAB8-EEA5-4E17-93EE-71EC624A8AF1
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,862
    I reported that on here a couple of days ago. One of my daughter's best friends is one of the lucky "beneficiaries". She is now working at Ninewells.

    I can't help thinking that these young doctors are about to go through something every bit as traumatic as taking part in a war. They are going to see a lot of death first hand. They are going to have to make very difficult choices. They are going to be working their arses off and they are almost certainly going to get sick.

    I wonder how many of them will still be in the profession in 5 years time.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    Lots of tech-talk, mostly above my head, but sounds like PS4 backwards compatibility will be included.

    Edited extra bit: not 100% of games but the vast majority.

    That's good, I'm fed up with the lack of backwards compatibility each generation. Especially considering its not like its a different cartridge type each time.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,806
    Mr. Thompson, aye. Must admit I'm a console-hoarder (original Playstation aside, which had a component break). I still occasionally get my PS3 or PS2 out to play ye olde games.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/03/18/world/europe/18reuters-health-coronavirus-italy-homes-insight.html?

    MILAN — As the official death toll from Italy's coronavirus outbreak passes 2,500, a silent surge in fatalities in nursing homes, where dozens of patients a day are dying untested for the virus, suggests the real total may be higher.

    Official data show that nearly 30,000 people have been confirmed as positive for the coronavirus in Italy, the highest number outside China where the virus first emerged.

    But strict testing rules mean only patients hospitalized with severe symptoms are normally being swab tested.

    While no detailed data is available, officials, nurses and relatives say there has been a spike in nursing home deaths in the worst affected regions of northern Italy since the virus emerged, and they are not showing up in coronavirus statistics.
    "There are significant numbers of people who have died but whose death hasn't been attributed to the coronavirus because they died at home or in a nursing home and so they weren't swabbed," said Giorgio Gori, mayor of the town of Bergamo.

    Gori said there had been 164 deaths in his town in the first two weeks of March this year, of which 31 were attributed to the coronavirus. That compares with 56 deaths over the same period last year.

    Even adding the 31 coronavirus deaths to that total would leave 77 additional deaths, an increase that suggests the virus may have caused significantly more deaths than officially recorded.

    Tanzi declined to give full numbers, but said on just one day last week there had been 18 deaths at his facility of patients with respiratory difficulties - symptoms associated with the coronavirus.

    Walter Montini, president of ARSAC, the association grouping 30 old people's homes in Cremona province, said that at one small care home with 36 beds, there were 7 deaths in a day.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    We find out soon enough but it sounds like another horrific day in Lombardy
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,862

    Have been out checking the stock situation in Tesco / Co-op / Asda / Morrisons:

    Tesco. Relatively quiet in terms of people, but significant sections of the store had been stripped
    Co-op. Nowhere near as bad as Tesco. Bog Roll aisle completely bare. Printed signs on shelf advising 1 unit per customer, but no products at all for sale
    Asda. Heavily shopped, the bulk lager section had been picked clean!
    Morrisons. Quite busy but again large sections wiped out. Checkout lass said its been horrible all week. "People come surging in at 7am when the doors open, look for stuff we don't have like toilet rolls then start shouting at us."

    Will now up planned production vs my recommendation of lunchtime. Retailer data systems not keeping up with reality in store. Have had some relatively large orders on relatively slow lines where 12 weeks of stock appears to have gone in 12 days. A lot of people planning to bake yummy gluten free bread whilst stuck at home...

    I think I preferred it when the updates were about the varieties of strawberries that were not rotting in our fields unpicked.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,708
    TGOHF666 said:
    Shades of Gordon Brown's "crisis that started in America".
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,370
    DavidL said:

    Have been out checking the stock situation in Tesco / Co-op / Asda / Morrisons:

    Tesco. Relatively quiet in terms of people, but significant sections of the store had been stripped
    Co-op. Nowhere near as bad as Tesco. Bog Roll aisle completely bare. Printed signs on shelf advising 1 unit per customer, but no products at all for sale
    Asda. Heavily shopped, the bulk lager section had been picked clean!
    Morrisons. Quite busy but again large sections wiped out. Checkout lass said its been horrible all week. "People come surging in at 7am when the doors open, look for stuff we don't have like toilet rolls then start shouting at us."

    Will now up planned production vs my recommendation of lunchtime. Retailer data systems not keeping up with reality in store. Have had some relatively large orders on relatively slow lines where 12 weeks of stock appears to have gone in 12 days. A lot of people planning to bake yummy gluten free bread whilst stuck at home...

    I think I preferred it when the updates were about the varieties of strawberries that were not rotting in our fields unpicked.
    I started writing something about the pasta shortage being due to the collapse of the pasta harvest in Italy, but even with my hateful sense of humour....
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    I reported that on here a couple of days ago. One of my daughter's best friends is one of the lucky "beneficiaries". She is now working at Ninewells.

    I can't help thinking that these young doctors are about to go through something every bit as traumatic as taking part in a war. They are going to see a lot of death first hand. They are going to have to make very difficult choices. They are going to be working their arses off and they are almost certainly going to get sick.

    I wonder how many of them will still be in the profession in 5 years time.
    It will be a baptism of fire, but they will be fine. They will be acting as assistants and the camaraderie is great at the moment. Sure we will all need to decompress afterwards, but it is as likely to be the making of them as the breaking.

    I have faith in the youngsters. They are the equals of any other generation.
    100hr weeks junior doctoring afterwards will feel like a breeze :-)
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,225

    Shameful from Sporting Index.

    What we really want is a market on which famous politicians/cabinet members/celebrities get it.

    They'd probably have to pay @Dura_Ace a commission...
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    What does BetFair exchange do with the net money staked?

    Deposits are kept separate - but do net stakes get invested/ Can they lose money?
  • At what time do they announce the end of the school year. Was it 5pm?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    edited March 2020
    Sources close to Mayor’s office say shutdown of capital expected in coming days, with Government able to 'close premises'

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/18/london-braces-lockdown-government-prepares-emergency-coronavirus/

    https://www.ft.com/content/e8c98d1c-6926-11ea-a3c9-1fe6fedcca75?sharetype=blocked

    Stop f##king leaking...its is massively irresponsible.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,102
    edited March 2020
    The supermarkets have a big problem

    I have an ongoing medical issue which I am dealing with on the telephone with my GP practice and they are excellent. They have thanked my wife and I for going into isolation and have said that my high risk factor is an issue over the attendance at the practice though in the end I will be given an appointment. I have full confidence in them but it is clear I cannot breach the isolation

    Yesterday my granddaughter 17 went down with a 38 degree temperature and now my daughter, son in law, and grandson are in lockdown for 14 days. Indeed my grandson will not be going back to his school as he moves up in September and the school closes on friday. They cannot help us for the rest of the month.

    And now back to the supermarkets, my delivery for tomorrow sees lots of out of stock items and it is a joke. I have not been able to source hand santiser from anywhere since the start of covid 19 nor surface cleaners and paracetamol

    The need to supply the most important items to those of us isolated for at least 12 weeks must be addressed as we cannot just get in the car and shop around

    So many problems and no easy solutions.

    I wonder when our idiotic media will stop their constant whinging, and do they really need to be filming outside the construction of new mortuaries in London
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    I reported that on here a couple of days ago. One of my daughter's best friends is one of the lucky "beneficiaries". She is now working at Ninewells.

    I can't help thinking that these young doctors are about to go through something every bit as traumatic as taking part in a war. They are going to see a lot of death first hand. They are going to have to make very difficult choices. They are going to be working their arses off and they are almost certainly going to get sick.

    I wonder how many of them will still be in the profession in 5 years time.
    It will be a baptism of fire, but they will be fine. They will be acting as assistants and the camaraderie is great at the moment. Sure we will all need to decompress afterwards, but it is as likely to be the making of them as the breaking.

    I have faith in the youngsters. They are the equals of any other generation.
    One thing that will come out of this (and I count myself very firmly in this camp) there will be a greater appreciation of our medical professionals.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207

    At what time do they announce the end of the school year. Was it 5pm?

    An announcement being made at 5pm
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,862
    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    I reported that on here a couple of days ago. One of my daughter's best friends is one of the lucky "beneficiaries". She is now working at Ninewells.

    I can't help thinking that these young doctors are about to go through something every bit as traumatic as taking part in a war. They are going to see a lot of death first hand. They are going to have to make very difficult choices. They are going to be working their arses off and they are almost certainly going to get sick.

    I wonder how many of them will still be in the profession in 5 years time.
    It will be a baptism of fire, but they will be fine. They will be acting as assistants and the camaraderie is great at the moment. Sure we will all need to decompress afterwards, but it is as likely to be the making of them as the breaking.

    I have faith in the youngsters. They are the equals of any other generation.
    I have never been one to be emotional about the NHS. I found the reference to hospital beds at London 2012 as bizarre and as eccentric as the rest of the world. But I have huge respect and admiration for those who are walking towards this inferno in the knowledge that some will be burned. Its genuinely heroic.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,898
    edited March 2020
    Deleted.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,862
    33 more deaths in the UK.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,932
    One medical quirk I noticed is that President Trump's doctor (who recently gave DT a clean bill of health) is an osteopath. It turns out that combined medicine and osteopathy degrees are common in America.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51893445

    There is a link to the Profumo affair because "Dr" Stephen Ward was qualified as a doctor in America but our GMC did not recognise foreign qualifications so Ward was only an osteopath here.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    edited March 2020
    stodge said:

    Mrs Stodge has just told me the Army is out at Ealing and at Clapham Junction - can anyone confirm?

    There are pictures on twitter claiming squaddies on the street at Clapham Junction. But other wiser people say just cadets from a local centre.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    stodge said:

    Mrs Stodge has just told me the Army is out at Ealing and at Clapham Junction - can anyone confirm?

    No it’s fake news being spread about twitter. Pictures of army cadets etc (there are barracks at both places)
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,935
    Someone got him talking about China again. :p
  • StereotomyStereotomy Posts: 4,092

    The supermarkets have a big problem

    I have an ongoing medical issue which I am dealing with on the telephone with my GP practice and they are excellent. They have thanked my wife and I for going into isolation and have said that my high risk factor is an issue over the attendance at the practice though in the end I will be given an appointment. I have full confidence in them but it is clear I cannot breach the isolation

    Yesterday my granddaughter 17 went down with a 38 degree temperature and now my daughter, son in law, and grandson are in lockdown for 14 days. Indeed my grandson will not be going back to his school as he moves up in September and the school closes on friday. They cannot help us for the rest of the month.

    And now back to the supermarkets, my delivery for tomorrow sees lots of out of stock items and it is a joke. I have not been able to source hand santiser from anywhere since the start of covid 19 nor surface cleaners and paracetamol

    The need to supply the most important items to those of us isolated for at least 12 weeks must be addressed as we cannot just get in the car and shop around

    So many problems and no easy solutions.

    I wonder when our idiotic media will stop their constant whinging, and do they really need to be filming outside the construction of new mortuaries in London

    Even if you could get in the car and shop around you likely wouldn't be able to get paracetamol or hand sanitiser
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,285

    The supermarkets have a big problem

    I have an ongoing medical issue which I am dealing with on the telephone with my GP practice and they are excellent. They have thanked my wife and I for going into isolation and have said that my high risk factor is an issue over the attendance at the practice though in the end I will be given an appointment. I have full confidence in them but it is clear I cannot breach the isolation

    Yesterday my granddaughter 17 went down with a 38 degree temperature and now my daughter, son in law, and grandson are in lockdown for 14 days. Indeed my grandson will not be going back to his school as he moves up in September and the school closes on friday. They cannot help us for the rest of the month.

    And now back to the supermarkets, my delivery for tomorrow sees lots of out of stock items and it is a joke. I have not been able to source hand santiser from anywhere since the start of covid 19 nor surface cleaners and paracetamol

    The need to supply the most important items to those of us isolated for at least 12 weeks must be addressed as we cannot just get in the car and shop around

    So many problems and no easy solutions.

    I wonder when our idiotic media will stop their constant whinging, and do they really need to be filming outside the construction of new mortuaries in London

    On hand sanitiser, if you are not leaving the house soap and water is actually more effective. Hand sanitiser if only really needed if you are away from a sink I think.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    RobD said:

    Someone got him talking about China again. :p

    He doesn't half love to talk about VVVVChina.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    alex_ said:

    stodge said:

    Mrs Stodge has just told me the Army is out at Ealing and at Clapham Junction - can anyone confirm?

    No it’s fake news being spread about twitter. Pictures of army cadets etc (there are barracks at both places)
    Where is the barracks in Clapham?

    FWIW i have heard from 2 sources that they will be deploying shortly

  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,601
    DavidL said:

    33 more deaths in the UK.

    How does that compare to the previous daily update?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    Ex-director of the WHO Cancer Programme Professor Karol Sikora gives his take on coronavirus and whether the disease could come back after being dealt with. Karol explains whether Boris Johnson's response has been effective and why the UK didn't test people at the borders.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKjjsTPRk2g
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,695

    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1240307154671874050?s=20

    Looks like "Whatever it Takes" is leading so far.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,225
    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    I reported that on here a couple of days ago. One of my daughter's best friends is one of the lucky "beneficiaries". She is now working at Ninewells.

    I can't help thinking that these young doctors are about to go through something every bit as traumatic as taking part in a war. They are going to see a lot of death first hand. They are going to have to make very difficult choices. They are going to be working their arses off and they are almost certainly going to get sick.

    I wonder how many of them will still be in the profession in 5 years time.
    It will be a baptism of fire, but they will be fine. They will be acting as assistants and the camaraderie is great at the moment. Sure we will all need to decompress afterwards, but it is as likely to be the making of them as the breaking.

    I have faith in the youngsters. They are the equals of any other generation.
    Just had a message from my daughter who is now self-isolating as a housemate has developed a cough & fever.
    The other housemate works for the NHS, and has been told to carry on going in to work, apparently. Will find out more tonight, but this sounds odd, to say the least.
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,191
    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    I reported that on here a couple of days ago. One of my daughter's best friends is one of the lucky "beneficiaries". She is now working at Ninewells.

    I can't help thinking that these young doctors are about to go through something every bit as traumatic as taking part in a war. They are going to see a lot of death first hand. They are going to have to make very difficult choices. They are going to be working their arses off and they are almost certainly going to get sick.

    I wonder how many of them will still be in the profession in 5 years time.
    It will be a baptism of fire, but they will be fine. They will be acting as assistants and the camaraderie is great at the moment. Sure we will all need to decompress afterwards, but it is as likely to be the making of them as the breaking.

    I have faith in the youngsters. They are the equals of any other generation.
    Do you think they will be put on the front line, or used to free up more experienced doctors from elsewhere?
  • The supermarkets have a big problem

    I have an ongoing medical issue which I am dealing with on the telephone with my GP practice and they are excellent. They have thanked my wife and I for going into isolation and have said that my high risk factor is an issue over the attendance at the practice though in the end I will be given an appointment. I have full confidence in them but it is clear I cannot breach the isolation

    Yesterday my granddaughter 17 went down with a 38 degree temperature and now my daughter, son in law, and grandson are in lockdown for 14 days. Indeed my grandson will not be going back to his school as he moves up in September and the school closes on friday. They cannot help us for the rest of the month.

    And now back to the supermarkets, my delivery for tomorrow sees lots of out of stock items and it is a joke. I have not been able to source hand santiser from anywhere since the start of covid 19 nor surface cleaners and paracetamol

    The need to supply the most important items to those of us isolated for at least 12 weeks must be addressed as we cannot just get in the car and shop around

    So many problems and no easy solutions.

    I wonder when our idiotic media will stop their constant whinging, and do they really need to be filming outside the construction of new mortuaries in London

    On hand sanitiser, if you are not leaving the house soap and water is actually more effective. Hand sanitiser if only really needed if you are away from a sink I think.
    Yes thank you. I am aware of that but I may need to go to the surgery or in an emergency and a hand santiser would be useful.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976

    TGOHF666 said:
    Shades of Gordon Brown's "crisis that started in America".
    Alternatively, Barack Obama's insistence that Deepwater Horizon was a problem caused by "British Petroleum".
  • RobD said:

    Someone got him talking about China again. :p

    "Djinah"
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,862
    Andy_JS said:

    DavidL said:

    33 more deaths in the UK.

    How does that compare to the previous daily update?
    I think that the highest until now has been 20.
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,285

    The supermarkets have a big problem

    I have an ongoing medical issue which I am dealing with on the telephone with my GP practice and they are excellent. They have thanked my wife and I for going into isolation and have said that my high risk factor is an issue over the attendance at the practice though in the end I will be given an appointment. I have full confidence in them but it is clear I cannot breach the isolation

    Yesterday my granddaughter 17 went down with a 38 degree temperature and now my daughter, son in law, and grandson are in lockdown for 14 days. Indeed my grandson will not be going back to his school as he moves up in September and the school closes on friday. They cannot help us for the rest of the month.

    And now back to the supermarkets, my delivery for tomorrow sees lots of out of stock items and it is a joke. I have not been able to source hand santiser from anywhere since the start of covid 19 nor surface cleaners and paracetamol

    The need to supply the most important items to those of us isolated for at least 12 weeks must be addressed as we cannot just get in the car and shop around

    So many problems and no easy solutions.

    I wonder when our idiotic media will stop their constant whinging, and do they really need to be filming outside the construction of new mortuaries in London

    On hand sanitiser, if you are not leaving the house soap and water is actually more effective. Hand sanitiser if only really needed if you are away from a sink I think.
    Yes thank you. I am aware of that but I may need to go to the surgery or in an emergency and a hand santiser would be useful.
    I see your problem then.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,999
    Foxy said:

    DavidL said:

    I reported that on here a couple of days ago. One of my daughter's best friends is one of the lucky "beneficiaries". She is now working at Ninewells.

    I can't help thinking that these young doctors are about to go through something every bit as traumatic as taking part in a war. They are going to see a lot of death first hand. They are going to have to make very difficult choices. They are going to be working their arses off and they are almost certainly going to get sick.

    I wonder how many of them will still be in the profession in 5 years time.
    It will be a baptism of fire, but they will be fine. They will be acting as assistants and the camaraderie is great at the moment. Sure we will all need to decompress afterwards, but it is as likely to be the making of them as the breaking.

    I have faith in the youngsters. They are the equals of any other generation.
    Absolutely. The idea that 'the Greatest Generation' had some inherently unique characteristics that subsequent generations do not is awful sentimental pish; youngsters rose to the challenge then and will again.
  • The supermarkets have a big problem

    I have an ongoing medical issue which I am dealing with on the telephone with my GP practice and they are excellent. They have thanked my wife and I for going into isolation and have said that my high risk factor is an issue over the attendance at the practice though in the end I will be given an appointment. I have full confidence in them but it is clear I cannot breach the isolation

    Yesterday my granddaughter 17 went down with a 38 degree temperature and now my daughter, son in law, and grandson are in lockdown for 14 days. Indeed my grandson will not be going back to his school as he moves up in September and the school closes on friday. They cannot help us for the rest of the month.

    And now back to the supermarkets, my delivery for tomorrow sees lots of out of stock items and it is a joke. I have not been able to source hand santiser from anywhere since the start of covid 19 nor surface cleaners and paracetamol

    The need to supply the most important items to those of us isolated for at least 12 weeks must be addressed as we cannot just get in the car and shop around

    So many problems and no easy solutions.

    I wonder when our idiotic media will stop their constant whinging, and do they really need to be filming outside the construction of new mortuaries in London

    Even if you could get in the car and shop around you likely wouldn't be able to get paracetamol or hand sanitiser
    For work reasons I've been to 4 supermarkets this afternoon and none of them had any of those. Or toilet rolls, pasta, kids medicines, cat litter. For the people who are *genuinely* in need this absolutely is a major problem. "Stay home drink water take pills" is fine. Unless you have no pills. In which case the temptation will undoubtedly be to send people out from the household looking for pills...
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    Floater said:

    alex_ said:

    stodge said:

    Mrs Stodge has just told me the Army is out at Ealing and at Clapham Junction - can anyone confirm?

    No it’s fake news being spread about twitter. Pictures of army cadets etc (there are barracks at both places)
    Where is the barracks in Clapham?

    FWIW i have heard from 2 sources that they will be deploying shortly

    Opposite Clapham junction station.

    No doubt the army will be deployed for various reasons at some point. Nothing to do with these “rumours” though. And in this social media world “multiple” sources means nothing unless they are first hand.
  • At a time like this what has the US and the world done to deserve a narcissistic demented fool like Trump

    Right now I believe he is the most dangerous leader in this crisis
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,119
    edited March 2020
    America is definitely not going to get any help from China.

    Trump is China, China, China, China, China....
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,601
    Floater said:

    alex_ said:

    stodge said:

    Mrs Stodge has just told me the Army is out at Ealing and at Clapham Junction - can anyone confirm?

    No it’s fake news being spread about twitter. Pictures of army cadets etc (there are barracks at both places)
    Where is the barracks in Clapham?

    FWIW i have heard from 2 sources that they will be deploying shortly

    Someone's enjoying themselves spreading silly rumours.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,225

    At a time like this what has the US and the world done to deserve a narcissistic demented fool like Trump...

    Well the US... voted for him in sufficient numbers to elect the idiot.
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518

    The supermarkets have a big problem

    I have an ongoing medical issue which I am dealing with on the telephone with my GP practice and they are excellent. They have thanked my wife and I for going into isolation and have said that my high risk factor is an issue over the attendance at the practice though in the end I will be given an appointment. I have full confidence in them but it is clear I cannot breach the isolation

    Yesterday my granddaughter 17 went down with a 38 degree temperature and now my daughter, son in law, and grandson are in lockdown for 14 days. Indeed my grandson will not be going back to his school as he moves up in September and the school closes on friday. They cannot help us for the rest of the month.

    And now back to the supermarkets, my delivery for tomorrow sees lots of out of stock items and it is a joke. I have not been able to source hand santiser from anywhere since the start of covid 19 nor surface cleaners and paracetamol

    The need to supply the most important items to those of us isolated for at least 12 weeks must be addressed as we cannot just get in the car and shop around

    So many problems and no easy solutions.

    I wonder when our idiotic media will stop their constant whinging, and do they really need to be filming outside the construction of new mortuaries in London

    Even if you could get in the car and shop around you likely wouldn't be able to get paracetamol or hand sanitiser
    For work reasons I've been to 4 supermarkets this afternoon and none of them had any of those. Or toilet rolls, pasta, kids medicines, cat litter. For the people who are *genuinely* in need this absolutely is a major problem. "Stay home drink water take pills" is fine. Unless you have no pills. In which case the temptation will undoubtedly be to send people out from the household looking for pills...
    Generally smaller stores seem to have had more availability
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,814


    https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1240307154671874050?s=20

    Looks like "Whatever it Takes" is leading so far.

    What is WITH the DAILY MAIL style HEADLINE CAPITALS.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,225

    The supermarkets have a big problem

    I have an ongoing medical issue which I am dealing with on the telephone with my GP practice and they are excellent. They have thanked my wife and I for going into isolation and have said that my high risk factor is an issue over the attendance at the practice though in the end I will be given an appointment. I have full confidence in them but it is clear I cannot breach the isolation

    Yesterday my granddaughter 17 went down with a 38 degree temperature and now my daughter, son in law, and grandson are in lockdown for 14 days. Indeed my grandson will not be going back to his school as he moves up in September and the school closes on friday. They cannot help us for the rest of the month.

    And now back to the supermarkets, my delivery for tomorrow sees lots of out of stock items and it is a joke. I have not been able to source hand santiser from anywhere since the start of covid 19 nor surface cleaners and paracetamol

    The need to supply the most important items to those of us isolated for at least 12 weeks must be addressed as we cannot just get in the car and shop around

    So many problems and no easy solutions.

    I wonder when our idiotic media will stop their constant whinging, and do they really need to be filming outside the construction of new mortuaries in London

    Even if you could get in the car and shop around you likely wouldn't be able to get paracetamol or hand sanitiser
    For work reasons I've been to 4 supermarkets this afternoon and none of them had any of those. Or toilet rolls, pasta, kids medicines, cat litter. For the people who are *genuinely* in need this absolutely is a major problem. "Stay home drink water take pills" is fine. Unless you have no pills. In which case the temptation will undoubtedly be to send people out from the household looking for pills...
    Supermarkets are sensibly starting to limit purchases of particular items. Hopefully this will stabilise things over the next few days.

    Meanwhile, saw loo roll on the shelves of the local Chinese supermarket this afternoon...
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