Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
What is this card only thing?
To avoid transmission via bank notes.
Of course the pin pad is probably far worse for the customer.
That’s the beauty of contactless. If you use your phone you can go over the £30 limit.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Why give people another weekend to spread it around? We will have the largest numbers of asymptomatic infected ever. The shops on Saturday will look like a war zone.
I'd make it 7pm Friday night.
Monday or Tuesday please.
Some of us have minibreaks required for their sanity.
Are you taking the fecking piss?
Certainly not.
Oh dear.
We're driving from our secure private home to a self catering cottage on a farm and back again in a private car. In the UK.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
What is this card only thing?
Not sure that I see the merit of it , but it was suggested that virus transmission was more likely via notes and coins.
But the glasses (full and empty going either way) are fine....?
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
What is this card only thing?
To avoid transmission via bank notes.
Of course the pin pad is probably far worse for the customer.
What are the chances of Bernie pulling out tonight?
There's a scenario - not at all likely but possible - where he runs the table today. Old voters stay home, figuring it's in the bag, young folks turn out in droves.
Not expecting this but putting it down so I seem like a genius if it does.
Sanders can't even hold mass rallies at the moment, he's completely done for in every way.
On the contrary! I am making a valid and important point about the politics of this. It's one of the best points I've ever made and it's timely. It simply has to be made in response to the "let's all get behind Boris" guff.
Like this -
Run up to the Global Financial Crisis. Tories ostensibly relaxed about the public finances. Not arguing for less spending or higher taxes. The opposite in fact on taxes. Neither arguing for tighter regulation of the City. Again, the opposite if anything.
Simply not true. I refer you to Peter Lilly - who at the time was Shadow Chancellor - arguing vehemently against Browns plans to reduce regulation and oversight by the Bank of England.
"With the removal of banking control to the Financial Services Authority--the "super-SIB"--it is difficult to see how and whether the Bank remains, as it surely must, responsible for ensuring the liquidity of the banking system and preventing systemic collapse."
"The process of setting up the FSA may cause regulators to take their eye off the ball, while spivs and crooks have a field day."
This was only one of many repeated warnings by the Shadow Chancellor about Brown's plans.
Brown was warned what would happen and he ignored the warnings.
However, the rising stars of the Conservatives at the time, more influential on their evolving outlook, weren't figures like Lilley but Daniel Hannan, later populist Brexiter and supposed scourge of the "elite". He campaigned at the time on the idea that Britain should become as deregulated as Iceland, and that the City was being crushed by regulation.
To the one extent these events are irrelevant now, but they're useful to remember. Their wide-eyed ideas that financialised capitalism was infallible, part of which enabled financial institutions to carry on milking QE for 10 years after a crisis they themselves helped to create, are no part of today's epochal events.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
When do we think the lockdown will start in London then? Sunday night? That makes sense if they are going to close the school the next day
Why give people another weekend to spread it around? We will have the largest numbers of asymptomatic infected ever. The shops on Saturday will look like a war zone.
I'd make it 7pm Friday night.
Monday or Tuesday please.
Some of us have minibreaks required for their sanity.
Are you taking the fecking piss?
Certainly not.
Oh dear.
We're driving from our secure private home to a self catering cottage on a farm and back again in a private car. In the UK.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
What is this card only thing?
To avoid transmission via bank notes.
Of course the pin pad is probably far worse for the customer.
Contactless unless you’re getting in a very big round
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Why are you going to pubs when the advice is not to?
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Complete and utter selfish plonker, the purpose of self isolating is to protect others as much as yourself
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
I think the bigger issue is the spreading it to other people who may not have the same outlook on life.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
There's nothing wrong with younger people going to the pub IMO, as long as it's not too crowded. (Until they change the advice).
After a day organising various things my wife and I have gone into a 12 week lockdown due to our high risk of covid 19. Made arrangements with my family to help us without coming within two metres or into the house
However, my 17 year old granddaughter has phoned me to say she has been sent home from school with a 38 degree temperature and feeling rotten. The result is my daughter and her husband and our grandson go into a 14 day lockdown. Fortunately both my daughter and her husband can and have started WFH but of course they cannot help us now though our youngest son and his fiancee will
The alarming thing is paracetamol is as scarce as toilet rolls and my son in law tells me his in urgent need of antibiotics and the chemist has no stock
I really do believe HMG needs to either bring in rationing or mandating all supermarkets to enforce customer rationing
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
I think the bigger issue is the spreading it to other people who may not have the same outlook on life.
I have to visit the pharmacy and supermarkets . A pub is not obviously more risky - nor was the cafe I visited this afternoon.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
I think the bigger issue is the spreading it to other people who may not have the same outlook on life.
I have to visit the pharmacy and supermarkets . A pub is not obviously more risky - nor was the cafe I visited this afternoon.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Why are you going to pubs when the advice is not to?
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
That is irresponsible selfish behaviour and does you no credit at all Justin
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
It’s not only about you. It’s the fact to could transmit to others.
If everyone takes this attitude there will be lockdowns patrolled by the police or even army coming our way in a couple of days.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
What is this card only thing?
To avoid transmission via bank notes.
Of course the pin pad is probably far worse for the customer.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
There's nothing wrong with younger people going to the pub IMO, as long as it's not too crowded.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
And if you get put on an ICU bed someone else won't be because you are there, and might therefore die.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
There's nothing wrong with younger people going to the pub IMO, as long as it's not too crowded. (Until they change the advice).
Don't be fucking stupid.
We need a proper shutdown. Far too many 'I know best' idiots in our midst.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
There's nothing wrong with younger people going to the pub IMO, as long as it's not too crowded.
Yes there is. They can act as carriers.
They can end up in ICU. Italian reports are quite clear on this.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
I think the bigger issue is the spreading it to other people who may not have the same outlook on life.
I have to visit the pharmacy and supermarkets . A pub is not obviously more risky - nor was the cafe I visited this afternoon.
Oh dear God. Have you missed the news lately? The key, in terms of contact, is to avoid being within a couple of metres of a carrier for 15 mins. So more likely in the pharmacy buying 12 aspirin or chin wagging over a pint?
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Clearly the case for mandated by law is obvious, the issue really is how draconian. Apparently if I had a dog I could have rented it out for 40e an hour To people desperate to go for a walk. The problem is people will look for loop holes to get around restrictions. Let’s get on with it and hope it’s only for a month or two. All worth it if it keeps hospitals functioning close to normal
Oh dear God. Have you missed the news lately? The key, in terms of contact, is to avoid being within a couple of metres of a carrier for 15 mins. So more likely in the pharmacy buying 12 aspirin or chin wagging over a pint?
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
I think the bigger issue is the spreading it to other people who may not have the same outlook on life.
I have to visit the pharmacy and supermarkets . A pub is not obviously more risky - nor was the cafe I visited this afternoon.
Yes, you have to get medicines and food. You don't have to drop in for afternoon tea or a night on the lash. Now please wake up and do the right thing.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
And if you get put on an ICU bed someone else won't be because you are there, and might therefore die.
Almost impossible to believe you are for real.
I have rarely seen such sefish idiotic behaviour that in certain circumstances could see me a victim of covid 19 as Justin takes up an ICU bed which with my copd could be a lifeline, just because he does not care
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
I think the bigger issue is the spreading it to other people who may not have the same outlook on life.
I have to visit the pharmacy and supermarkets . A pub is not obviously more risky - nor was the cafe I visited this afternoon.
Yes, you have to get medicines and food. You don't have to drop in for afternoon tea or a night on the lash. Now please wake up and do the right thing.
Even my 17 year old is acting more responsibly than Justin
I perhaps I was intersperses, I was referring to ALL US Federal government action, including tariffs and extra spending, which started a log time before the official 'new deal' which was IMO just and extension and expansion of what the US government had been doing for a few years.
Soon after the 'stock market crash' the economy was recovering and unemployment falling, from 9% down to 6% then the big interventions came and unemployment rose to over 10% and stayed there for 10 years.
I'm a bit of a Grant's fan, and believe that economic systems quickly self correct. Ultimately, while businesses may fail, the means of production are not destroyed.
And in your support, I'd note that no-one talks about the 1921 depression, which was every bit as severe as 1929-30, but cured itself rapidly and withotu government intervention.
However... there is one enormous difference between now and then, demographics.
In those days there were lots of young people who had nothing and worked to have something (anything). We now have lots of people who are owed pensions, and who outnumbered the hungry and young and savings free.
After a day organising various things my wife and I have gone into a 12 week lockdown due to our high risk of covid 19. Made arrangements with my family to help us without coming within two metres or into the house
However, my 17 year old granddaughter has phoned me to say she has been sent home from school with a 38 degree temperature and feeling rotten. The result is my daughter and her husband and our grandson go into a 14 day lockdown. Fortunately both my daughter and her husband can and have started WFH but of course they cannot help us now though our youngest son and his fiancee will
The alarming thing is paracetamol is as scarce as toilet rolls and my son in law tells me his in urgent need of antibiotics and the chemist has no stock
I really do believe HMG needs to either bring in rationing or mandating all supermarkets to enforce customer rationing
My wife told me an unsettling story today, from the primary school where she works,
One teacher came in and said her flatmate was exhibiting classic Covid symptoms - fever, dry cough, fatigue, etc. Everyone knows it is already spreading through London schools (my daughter's school closed temporarily this week, for a "deep clean")
The government edict is that any household with one case should quarantine itself entirely, as you and I know,
The idiot headteacher said, however, that only proven cases should quarantine so she ordered the teacher to stay at work.
My god. What a moron. These morons will get us all killed.
My wife as a result has abandoned her attempt to be a good citizen and keep on working til the schools shut, she is stopping tomorrow.
I think “all killed” is overstating it a bit.
My employer clients are, on the whole, being pretty sensible about the public health aspect. That means, though, that I have sadly spent much of the day advising on lay-off, short time working and redundancy. One or two calling about employees refusing to come in but the trend appears to be to close workplaces rather than force people in.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
I think the bigger issue is the spreading it to other people who may not have the same outlook on life.
I have to visit the pharmacy and supermarkets . A pub is not obviously more risky - nor was the cafe I visited this afternoon.
^ this. Let's not all lose our minds. Drinking ourselves into oblivion for self-medical purposes is absolutely allowed, isn't it Mr Johnson?
After a day organising various things my wife and I have gone into a 12 week lockdown due to our high risk of covid 19. Made arrangements with my family to help us without coming within two metres or into the house
However, my 17 year old granddaughter has phoned me to say she has been sent home from school with a 38 degree temperature and feeling rotten. The result is my daughter and her husband and our grandson go into a 14 day lockdown. Fortunately both my daughter and her husband can and have started WFH but of course they cannot help us now though our youngest son and his fiancee will
The alarming thing is paracetamol is as scarce as toilet rolls and my son in law tells me his in urgent need of antibiotics and the chemist has no stock
I really do believe HMG needs to either bring in rationing or mandating all supermarkets to enforce customer rationing
My wife told me an unsettling story today, from the primary school where she works,
One teacher came in and said her flatmate was exhibiting classic Covid symptoms - fever, dry cough, fatigue, etc. Everyone knows it is already spreading through London schools (my daughter's school closed temporarily this week, for a "deep clean")
The government edict is that any household with one case should quarantine itself entirely, as you and I know,
The idiot headteacher said, however, that only proven cases should quarantine so she ordered the teacher to stay at work.
My god. What a moron. These morons will get us all killed.
My wife as a result has abandoned her attempt to be a good citizen and keep on working til the schools shut, she is stopping tomorrow.
The actions of some are a clear failure of due dilligence
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
I think the bigger issue is the spreading it to other people who may not have the same outlook on life.
I have to visit the pharmacy and supermarkets . A pub is not obviously more risky - nor was the cafe I visited this afternoon.
^ this. Let's not all lose our minds
You don't see the risk of going to a cafe or pub as an asymptomatic carrier and potentially spreading the virus everywhere?
Clearly the case for mandated by law is obvious, the issue really is how draconian. Apparently if I had a dog I could have rented it out for 40e an hour To people desperate to go for a walk. The problem is people will look for loop holes to get around restrictions. Let’s get on with it and hope it’s only for a month or two. All worth it if it keeps hospitals functioning close to normal
Yeah, my son in Catalonia told me just now how people are using dog-walking to get round the ban.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
It’s not only about you. It’s the fact to could transmit to others.
If everyone takes this attitude there will be lockdowns patrolled by the police or even army coming our way in a couple of days.
It’s also about those, like Foxy, who would have to treat him should he get seriously ill. The more overloaded the system, the greater the risk to doctors and nurses.
But the fundamental thing is strictly limiting interaction with other people. I will be going in to work tomorrow, but I will be pretty well alone in the office, and will keep it that way.
In those days there were lots of young people who had nothing and worked to have something (anything). We now have lots of people who are owed pensions, and who outnumbered the hungry and young and savings free.
Without wanting to get overly morbid - the thing which is causing this economic depression might be having a go at solving that problem too...
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
What is this card only thing?
In our Spanish lockdown you can only pay with a card. No cash.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
What is the stereotype of Gen X’ers in these circumstances? Sit around in checked shirts commenting ironically?
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
I think the bigger issue is the spreading it to other people who may not have the same outlook on life.
I have to visit the pharmacy and supermarkets . A pub is not obviously more risky - nor was the cafe I visited this afternoon.
^ this. Let's not all lose our minds
You don't see the risk of going to a cafe or pub as an asymptomatic carrier and potentially spreading the virus everywhere?
It posted without the second sentence which I had to edit back on. Read it again
After a day organising various things my wife and I have gone into a 12 week lockdown due to our high risk of covid 19. Made arrangements with my family to help us without coming within two metres or into the house
However, my 17 year old granddaughter has phoned me to say she has been sent home from school with a 38 degree temperature and feeling rotten. The result is my daughter and her husband and our grandson go into a 14 day lockdown. Fortunately both my daughter and her husband can and have started WFH but of course they cannot help us now though our youngest son and his fiancee will
The alarming thing is paracetamol is as scarce as toilet rolls and my son in law tells me his in urgent need of antibiotics and the chemist has no stock
I really do believe HMG needs to either bring in rationing or mandating all supermarkets to enforce customer rationing
My wife told me an unsettling story today, from the primary school where she works,
One teacher came in and said her flatmate was exhibiting classic Covid symptoms - fever, dry cough, fatigue, etc. Everyone knows it is already spreading through London schools (my daughter's school closed temporarily this week, for a "deep clean")
The government edict is that any household with one case should quarantine itself entirely, as you and I know,
The idiot headteacher said, however, that only proven cases should quarantine so she ordered the teacher to stay at work.
My god. What a moron. These morons will get us all killed.
My wife as a result has abandoned her attempt to be a good citizen and keep on working til the schools shut, she is stopping tomorrow.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
What is the stereotype of Gen X’ers in these circumstances? Sit around in checked shirts commenting ironically?
I honestly lose track of all these titles. I was born in 1965. Is that Baby Boomer? Or Gen X? I think I ought to know so I can behave accordingly.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
What is the stereotype of Gen X’ers in these circumstances? Sit around in checked shirts commenting ironically?
So long as they stay at home to do so, what’s the problem ?
After a day organising various things my wife and I have gone into a 12 week lockdown due to our high risk of covid 19. Made arrangements with my family to help us without coming within two metres or into the house
However, my 17 year old granddaughter has phoned me to say she has been sent home from school with a 38 degree temperature and feeling rotten. The result is my daughter and her husband and our grandson go into a 14 day lockdown. Fortunately both my daughter and her husband can and have started WFH but of course they cannot help us now though our youngest son and his fiancee will
The alarming thing is paracetamol is as scarce as toilet rolls and my son in law tells me his in urgent need of antibiotics and the chemist has no stock
I really do believe HMG needs to either bring in rationing or mandating all supermarkets to enforce customer rationing
My wife told me an unsettling story today, from the primary school where she works,
One teacher came in and said her flatmate was exhibiting classic Covid symptoms - fever, dry cough, fatigue, etc. Everyone knows it is already spreading through London schools (my daughter's school closed temporarily this week, for a "deep clean")
The government edict is that any household with one case should quarantine itself entirely, as you and I know,
The idiot headteacher said, however, that only proven cases should quarantine so she ordered the teacher to stay at work.
My god. What a moron. These morons will get us all killed.
My wife as a result has abandoned her attempt to be a good citizen and keep on working til the schools shut, she is stopping tomorrow.
The teacher should have just walked. What's the head gonna do?
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Why are you going to pubs when the advice is not to?
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
That is irresponsible selfish behaviour and does you no credit at all Justin
We have to make our own judgements on this. I will simply add that I have complied with some of the earlier advice to a much greater extent than others I have encountered. On Sunday evenings, I usually join a group of 6 or 7 people - who range in age from 59 to 73. They include a couple in their early 70s, and at the end of the evening , the guy invariably shakes hands and gives a hug to the others prior to departure. His wife is even more physically demonstrative and pretty well insists on giving everybody a good snog before leaving. A week ago I declined the handshake from the guy but was caught unawares by his wife. Last Sunday,however, I did resist successfully the lady's attempt to embrace me - and made it clear that on this matter I intent to comply with official medical advice. By the way , both are Tory voters.
In those days there were lots of young people who had nothing and worked to have something (anything). We now have lots of people who are owed pensions, and who outnumbered the hungry and young and savings free.
Without wanting to get overly morbid - the thing which is causing this economic depression might be having a go at solving that problem too...
How long before some of the more avid remainers start running the numbers on how this would impact the Brexit vote?
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
It’s not only about you. It’s the fact to could transmit to others.
If everyone takes this attitude there will be lockdowns patrolled by the police or even army coming our way in a couple of days.
It’s also about those, like Foxy, who would have to treat him should he get seriously ill. The more overloaded the system, the greater the risk to doctors and nurses.
But the fundamental thing is strictly limiting interaction with other people. I will be going in to work tomorrow, but I will be pretty well alone in the office, and will keep it that way.
Quite. We’re hand sanitizing to death in the office, communal tea making is over, meetings are short, windows are open ( even though it’s cold still). I’ve not been in a public space other than food shopping for ten days. None of this makes me a hero, I just thought it made me normal doing my tiny bit,then I hear of the “oh I’m still carrying on down the pub” brigade. God help us.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Why are you going to pubs when the advice is not to?
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
That is irresponsible selfish behaviour and does you no credit at all Justin
We have to make our own judgements on this. I will simply add that I have complied with some of the earlier advice to a much greater extent than others I have encountered. On Sunday evenings, I usually join a group of 6 or 7 people - who range in age from 59 to 73. They include a couple in their early 70s, and at the end of the evening , the guy invariably shakes hands and gives a hug to the others prior to departure. His wife is even more physically demonstrative and pretty well insists on giving everybody a good snog before leaving. A week ago I declined the handshake from the guy but was caught unawares by his wife. Last Sunday,however, I did resist successfully the lady's attempt to embrace me - and made it clear that on this matter I intent to comply with official medical advice. By the way , both are Tory voters.
Just remember that the judgement isn't just "will I get ill?" it is also "will I make others ill?".
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
What is the stereotype of Gen X’ers in these circumstances? Sit around in checked shirts commenting ironically?
Never mind a checked shirt, I'm sat cross legged in a classic Nepalese shirt as I type this.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
What is the stereotype of Gen X’ers in these circumstances? Sit around in checked shirts commenting ironically?
I honestly lose track of all these titles. I was born in 1965. Is that Baby Boomer? Or Gen X? I think I ought to know so I can behave accordingly.
You’re on the cusp but I think 1965 is the first Gen X year. I’m 1974 - couldn’t be more Generation X if I was in the cast of Friends.
In those days there were lots of young people who had nothing and worked to have something (anything). We now have lots of people who are owed pensions, and who outnumbered the hungry and young and savings free.
Without wanting to get overly morbid - the thing which is causing this economic depression might be having a go at solving that problem too...
How long before some of the more avid remainers start running the numbers on how this would impact the Brexit vote?
I'd say it is better to not reveal the lack of control the authorities truly have and keep hoping nudge nudge works.
Scarce resources on maintaining order should be focused on supermarkets and the like.
Why? It's worked everywhere else in Europe: people are sufficiently frightened at this stage to comply and police can patrol streets whilst the military guard other important sites. I think we will actually be quite responsible about this.
Because we have no police anymore. I also think we have a far higher level of baseline scrotey behaviour than other European countries.
Could be wrong but I just can't see it working and instead it just reveals we are a paper Tiger when it comes to law and order.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Why are you going to pubs when the advice is not to?
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
That is irresponsible selfish behaviour and does you no credit at all Justin
We have to make our own judgements on this. I will simply add that I have complied with some of the earlier advice to a much greater extent than others I have encountered. On Sunday evenings, I usually join a group of 6 or 7 people - who range in age from 59 to 73. They include a couple in their early 70s, and at the end of the evening , the guy invariably shakes hands and gives a hug to the others prior to departure. His wife is even more physically demonstrative and pretty well insists on giving everybody a good snog before leaving. A week ago I declined the handshake from the guy but was caught unawares by his wife. Last Sunday,however, I did resist successfully the lady's attempt to embrace me - and made it clear that on this matter I intent to comply with official medical advice. By the way , both are Tory voters.
This is nothing to do with politics
This is your individual responsibilty to care for others and frankly your attitude will see a total lockdown in days and create thousands more deaths
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
What is the stereotype of Gen X’ers in these circumstances? Sit around in checked shirts commenting ironically?
I honestly lose track of all these titles. I was born in 1965. Is that Baby Boomer? Or Gen X? I think I ought to know so I can behave accordingly.
I was also born in 65 and would like a definitive ruling on this
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
What is the stereotype of Gen X’ers in these circumstances? Sit around in checked shirts commenting ironically?
I honestly lose track of all these titles. I was born in 1965. Is that Baby Boomer? Or Gen X? I think I ought to know so I can behave accordingly.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Why are you going to pubs when the advice is not to?
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
That is irresponsible selfish behaviour and does you no credit at all Justin
We have to make our own judgements on this. I will simply add that I have complied with some of the earlier advice to a much greater extent than others I have encountered. On Sunday evenings, I usually join a group of 6 or 7 people - who range in age from 59 to 73. They include a couple in their early 70s, and at the end of the evening , the guy invariably shakes hands and gives a hug to the others prior to departure. His wife is even more physically demonstrative and pretty well insists on giving everybody a good snog before leaving. A week ago I declined the handshake from the guy but was caught unawares by his wife. Last Sunday,however, I did resist successfully the lady's attempt to embrace me - and made it clear that on this matter I intent to comply with official medical advice. By the way , both are Tory voters.
This isn’t about who votes for whom. It’s about right and wrong. We are emphatically not free to make our own judgements on this because enough idiots will do what they want and more will die as a result. Horribly effectively drowning in their own lung juice because people can’t foresake a pint down the pub for a few weeks.
The government has specifically said DO NOT GO TO PUBS
Why do you think Belgium, Spain, France, Italy, Austria, and many other countries have CLOSED all bars, restaurants, cafes, etc?
Is it for a laugh? Are they self harming their economies because they are over-reacting?
Coronavirus can go two ways. You lock it down and you get near to South Korea. You don't, and you become Iran. If people won't voluntarily isolate, the government has to step in, and lock us all up. Great.
The old world has gone and won't be back till there is a vaccine, two years away at least.
When you were young, you went to pubs, you drank and took drugs, you fell in love, you played in bands, you went to parties, you did wild and irresponsible things, no ?
Why should young people lose a year or two years out of their glorious youth in lockdown? They are not going to get seriously ill, anyhow.
Who are you -- an elderly Malvolio -- to say there shall be no more cakes and ale?
... I honestly lose track of all these titles. I was born in 1965. Is that Baby Boomer? Or Gen X? I think I ought to know so I can behave accordingly.
I was also born in 65 and would like a definitive ruling on this
It appears that there is no definitive year. According to Wikipedia the crossover is somewhere between 1960 and 1965.
"Generation X (or Gen X for short) is the demographic cohort following the baby boomers and preceding the Millennials. Researchers and popular media typically use birth years around 1965 to 1980 to define Generation Xers, although some sources use birth years beginning as early as 1960 and ending somewhere from 1977 to 1984."
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
What is the stereotype of Gen X’ers in these circumstances? Sit around in checked shirts commenting ironically?
I honestly lose track of all these titles. I was born in 1965. Is that Baby Boomer? Or Gen X? I think I ought to know so I can behave accordingly.
I was also born in 65 and would like a definitive ruling on this
This 65 divide implies that me and Wor Lass are different generations, which sounds a bit dubious. And them I remember SeanT...
Last week in my church the, the dioceses had invoked the 1542 Sacrament act, so that communion was given in just one kind (bread) and not wine so there was no need to use a shared chalices.
It felt quite reassuring so how to know that this had been foreseen almost half a millennium ago.
I dunno how many Catholics or Anglo-Catholics are In Da House tonight, but something I've wondered without knowing a lot about religious matters.
What's the big objection to using individual Communion cups like the Baptists, Methodists, Reformed churches etc? This kind of kit always struck me as more hygienic - always found it a bit icky when watching Catholic/Anglican services with a shared cup, but I guess it depends what you grow up with as "normal".
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
What is the stereotype of Gen X’ers in these circumstances? Sit around in checked shirts commenting ironically?
I honestly lose track of all these titles. I was born in 1965. Is that Baby Boomer? Or Gen X? I think I ought to know so I can behave accordingly.
I was also born in 65 and would like a definitive ruling on this
This 65 divide implies that me and Wor Lass are different generations, which sounds a bit dubious. And them I remember SeanT...
The Gen X qualifying test is the ability to recite at least three scenes of Pulp Fiction dialogue. If you can do that you’re in.
I'd say it is better to not reveal the lack of control the authorities truly have and keep hoping nudge nudge works.
Scarce resources on maintaining order should be focused on supermarkets and the like.
Why? It's worked everywhere else in Europe: people are sufficiently frightened at this stage to comply and police can patrol streets whilst the military guard other important sites. I think we will actually be quite responsible about this.
The Imperial work on how social distancing would pan out side make assumptions about imperfect compliance. That's not an excuse for anyone, of course, but everyone who does this contributes to the end result.
I'd say it is better to not reveal the lack of control the authorities truly have and keep hoping nudge nudge works.
Scarce resources on maintaining order should be focused on supermarkets and the like.
Why? It's worked everywhere else in Europe: people are sufficiently frightened at this stage to comply and police can patrol streets whilst the military guard other important sites. I think we will actually be quite responsible about this.
I agree with you not Gideon, on this.
In my part of central London people are already self isolating and social distancing. I just walked for an hour around the streets, taking the air. One or two pubs had one or two customers, a lot of restaurants were simply shuttered.
It is very sad, and mournful, but it is the right thing.
However relatives of mine elsewhere in the UK say life goes on perfectly normally.
Idiot yokels.
Yet watch where the virus cluster is going to be.
This crisis will put moving out of London when you can, back into fashion.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Why are you going to pubs when the advice is not to?
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
That is irresponsible selfish behaviour and does you no credit at all Justin
We have to make our own judgements on this. I will simply add that I have complied with some of the earlier advice to a much greater extent than others I have encountered. On Sunday evenings, I usually join a group of 6 or 7 people - who range in age from 59 to 73. They include a couple in their early 70s, and at the end of the evening , the guy invariably shakes hands and gives a hug to the others prior to departure. His wife is even more physically demonstrative and pretty well insists on giving everybody a good snog before leaving. A week ago I declined the handshake from the guy but was caught unawares by his wife. Last Sunday,however, I did resist successfully the lady's attempt to embrace me - and made it clear that on this matter I intent to comply with official medical advice. By the way , both are Tory voters.
This isn’t about who votes for whom. It’s about right and wrong. We are emphatically not free to make our own judgements on this because enough idiots will do what they want and more will die as a result. Horribly effectively drowning in their own lung juice because people can’t foresake a pint down the pub for a few weeks.
Feel good???
I was around at the time of the Hong Kong flu pandemic in 1968. As I was only 14 at that time I was not directly affected, but there was certainly no attempt by the Government to impose a lock-down in this way.
I'd say it is better to not reveal the lack of control the authorities truly have and keep hoping nudge nudge works.
Scarce resources on maintaining order should be focused on supermarkets and the like.
Why? It's worked everywhere else in Europe: people are sufficiently frightened at this stage to comply and police can patrol streets whilst the military guard other important sites. I think we will actually be quite responsible about this.
I agree with you not Gideon, on this.
In my part of central London people are already self isolating and social distancing. I just walked for an hour around the streets, taking the air. One or two pubs had one or two customers, a lot of restaurants were simply shuttered.
It is very sad, and mournful, but it is the right thing.
However relatives of mine elsewhere in the UK say life goes on perfectly normally.
Idiot yokels.
Perhaps in central London it might work in the short term but I can't remember the last time I saw a police car out here where I am (North West).
Remember the fatigue stuff. When people start getting bored after 4 weeks and they learn they can do anything they want and have the run of the streets. Could be bad.
Anyway not much point fretting we'll soon see. We are well stocked with nerf guns in this house so I think we can protect ourselves.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
What is the stereotype of Gen X’ers in these circumstances? Sit around in checked shirts commenting ironically?
I honestly lose track of all these titles. I was born in 1965. Is that Baby Boomer? Or Gen X? I think I ought to know so I can behave accordingly.
I was also born in 65 and would like a definitive ruling on this
This 65 divide implies that me and Wor Lass are different generations, which sounds a bit dubious. And them I remember SeanT...
The Gen X qualifying test is the ability to recite at least three scenes of Pulp Fiction dialogue. If you can do that you’re in.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Why are you going to pubs when the advice is not to?
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
That is irresponsible selfish behaviour and does you no credit at all Justin
We have to make our own judgements on this. I will simply add that I have complied with some of the earlier advice to a much greater extent than others I have encountered. On Sunday evenings, I usually join a group of 6 or 7 people - who range in age from 59 to 73. They include a couple in their early 70s, and at the end of the evening , the guy invariably shakes hands and gives a hug to the others prior to departure. His wife is even more physically demonstrative and pretty well insists on giving everybody a good snog before leaving. A week ago I declined the handshake from the guy but was caught unawares by his wife. Last Sunday,however, I did resist successfully the lady's attempt to embrace me - and made it clear that on this matter I intent to comply with official medical advice. By the way , both are Tory voters.
This isn’t about who votes for whom. It’s about right and wrong. We are emphatically not free to make our own judgements on this because enough idiots will do what they want and more will die as a result. Horribly effectively drowning in their own lung juice because people can’t foresake a pint down the pub for a few weeks.
Feel good???
I was around at the time of the Hong Kong flu pandemic in 1968. As I was only 14 at that time I was not directly affected, but there was certainly no attempt by the Government to impose a lock-down in this way.
And that somehow justifies not following advice this time?
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
There's nothing wrong with younger people going to the pub IMO, as long as it's not too crowded. (Until they change the advice).
You must be fucking joking. Younger people are asymptomatic carriers.
Who is the bigger fool? The fool himself or the fool that follows him?
After a day organising various things my wife and I have gone into a 12 week lockdown due to our high risk of covid 19. Made arrangements with my family to help us without coming within two metres or into the house
However, my 17 year old granddaughter has phoned me to say she has been sent home from school with a 38 degree temperature and feeling rotten. The result is my daughter and her husband and our grandson go into a 14 day lockdown. Fortunately both my daughter and her husband can and have started WFH but of course they cannot help us now though our youngest son and his fiancee will
The alarming thing is paracetamol is as scarce as toilet rolls and my son in law tells me his in urgent need of antibiotics and the chemist has no stock
I really do believe HMG needs to either bring in rationing or mandating all supermarkets to enforce customer rationing
My wife told me an unsettling story today, from the primary school where she works,
One teacher came in and said her flatmate was exhibiting classic Covid symptoms - fever, dry cough, fatigue, etc. Everyone knows it is already spreading through London schools (my daughter's school closed temporarily this week, for a "deep clean")
The government edict is that any household with one case should quarantine itself entirely, as you and I know,
The idiot headteacher said, however, that only proven cases should quarantine so she ordered the teacher to stay at work.
My god. What a moron. These morons will get us all killed.
My wife as a result has abandoned her attempt to be a good citizen and keep on working til the schools shut, she is stopping tomorrow.
The teacher should have just walked. What's the head gonna do?
Apparently there was a near-mutiny amongst the staff. The head is a crazed Aussie cow, convinced she is right. Not liked
Parents are already pulling kids, staff will stop coming as of tomorrow, the head has lost control like Captain Bligh and so she's losing the plot entirely.
The teacher should have phoned in to say she was self isolating rather than going in in the first place.
The government has specifically said DO NOT GO TO PUBS
Why do you think Belgium, Spain, France, Italy, Austria, and many other countries have CLOSED all bars, restaurants, cafes, etc?
Is it for a laugh? Are they self harming their economies because they are over-reacting?
Coronavirus can go two ways. You lock it down and you get near to South Korea. You don't, and you become Iran. If people won't voluntarily isolate, the government has to step in, and lock us all up. Great.
The old world has gone and won't be back till there is a vaccine, two years away at least.
When you were young, you went to pubs, you drank and took drugs, you fell in love, you played in bands, you went to parties, you did wild and irresponsible things, no ?
Why should young people lose a year or two years out of their glorious youth in lockdown? They are not going to get seriously ill, anyhow.
Who are you -- an elderly Malvolio -- to say there shall be no more cakes and ale?
Justin is 65
I am talking about the young.
As there is no end to this without a vaccine, why should young people lose precious, glorious years of their lives stuck inside the house with Grandpa Eadric and his antiseptic gels.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
What is the stereotype of Gen X’ers in these circumstances? Sit around in checked shirts commenting ironically?
I honestly lose track of all these titles. I was born in 1965. Is that Baby Boomer? Or Gen X? I think I ought to know so I can behave accordingly.
I was also born in 65 and would like a definitive ruling on this
This 65 divide implies that me and Wor Lass are different generations, which sounds a bit dubious. And them I remember SeanT...
The Gen X qualifying test is the ability to recite at least three scenes of Pulp Fiction dialogue. If you can do that you’re in.
I can recite the Cub Scout Promise. Does that count?
... I honestly lose track of all these titles. I was born in 1965. Is that Baby Boomer? Or Gen X? I think I ought to know so I can behave accordingly.
I was also born in 65 and would like a definitive ruling on this
It appears that there is no definitive year. According to Wikipedia the crossover is somewhere between 1960 and 1965.
"Generation X (or Gen X for short) is the demographic cohort following the baby boomers and preceding the Millennials. Researchers and popular media typically use birth years around 1965 to 1980 to define Generation Xers, although some sources use birth years beginning as early as 1960 and ending somewhere from 1977 to 1984."
Gen X birth year 1964 to 1981 for our company’s stats etc.
The government has specifically said DO NOT GO TO PUBS
Why do you think Belgium, Spain, France, Italy, Austria, and many other countries have CLOSED all bars, restaurants, cafes, etc?
Is it for a laugh? Are they self harming their economies because they are over-reacting?
Coronavirus can go two ways. You lock it down and you get near to South Korea. You don't, and you become Iran. If people won't voluntarily isolate, the government has to step in, and lock us all up. Great.
The old world has gone and won't be back till there is a vaccine, two years away at least.
When you were young, you went to pubs, you drank and took drugs, you fell in love, you played in bands, you went to parties, you did wild and irresponsible things, no ?
Why should young people lose a year or two years out of their glorious youth in lockdown? They are not going to get seriously ill, anyhow.
Who are you -- an elderly Malvolio -- to say there shall be no more cakes and ale?
Justin is 65
I am talking about the young.
As there is no end to this without a vaccine, why should young people lose precious, glorious years of their lives stuck inside the house with Grandpa Eadric and his antiseptic gels.
Because when they go back to their house with Grandpa Eadric they'd probably kill him.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Why are you going to pubs when the advice is not to?
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
That is irresponsible selfish behaviour and does you no credit at all Justin
We have to make our own judgements on this. I will simply add that I have complied with some of the earlier advice to a much greater extent than others I have encountered. On Sunday evenings, I usually join a group of 6 or 7 people - who range in age from 59 to 73. They include a couple in their early 70s, and at the end of the evening , the guy invariably shakes hands and gives a hug to the others prior to departure. His wife is even more physically demonstrative and pretty well insists on giving everybody a good snog before leaving. A week ago I declined the handshake from the guy but was caught unawares by his wife. Last Sunday,however, I did resist successfully the lady's attempt to embrace me - and made it clear that on this matter I intent to comply with official medical advice. By the way , both are Tory voters.
This isn’t about who votes for whom. It’s about right and wrong. We are emphatically not free to make our own judgements on this because enough idiots will do what they want and more will die as a result. Horribly effectively drowning in their own lung juice because people can’t foresake a pint down the pub for a few weeks.
Feel good???
I was around at the time of the Hong Kong flu pandemic in 1968. As I was only 14 at that time I was not directly affected, but there was certainly no attempt by the Government to impose a lock-down in this way.
And that somehow justifies not following advice this time?
Make it unlawful then! I would not seek to break the law.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Another fucking idiot. Stay at home you knob.
With respect, I currently live alone and feel pretty laid back about picking up the virus. Unlikely in the extreme that I will be a carrier myself. I am very philosophical about any danger incurred, and accept the risk on the basis that if the virus has my number on it - 'so be it'! I have reached the age of 65 years and 8 months - which I believe was the normal male life expectancy in the UK as late as mid-1958. I really am not unduly worried at the prospect of departing this physical plain for other realms! Were I 45 , I would likely take a different view.
Boomers
No, this guy is special. We aren't all like that.
Yes, he's embodying the stereotypes of boomers, but of course there are many who don't fit those stereotypes.
What is the stereotype of Gen X’ers in these circumstances? Sit around in checked shirts commenting ironically?
I honestly lose track of all these titles. I was born in 1965. Is that Baby Boomer? Or Gen X? I think I ought to know so I can behave accordingly.
I was also born in 65 and would like a definitive ruling on this
This 65 divide implies that me and Wor Lass are different generations, which sounds a bit dubious. And them I remember SeanT...
The Gen X qualifying test is the ability to recite at least three scenes of Pulp Fiction dialogue. If you can do that you’re in.
I can recite the Cub Scout Promise. Does that count?
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Why are you going to pubs when the advice is not to?
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
That is irresponsible selfish behaviour and does you no credit at all Justin
We have to make our own judgements on this. I will simply add that I have complied with some of the earlier advice to a much greater extent than others I have encountered. On Sunday evenings, I usually join a group of 6 or 7 people - who range in age from 59 to 73. They include a couple in their early 70s, and at the end of the evening , the guy invariably shakes hands and gives a hug to the others prior to departure. His wife is even more physically demonstrative and pretty well insists on giving everybody a good snog before leaving. A week ago I declined the handshake from the guy but was caught unawares by his wife. Last Sunday,however, I did resist successfully the lady's attempt to embrace me - and made it clear that on this matter I intent to comply with official medical advice. By the way , both are Tory voters.
This isn’t about who votes for whom. It’s about right and wrong. We are emphatically not free to make our own judgements on this because enough idiots will do what they want and more will die as a result. Horribly effectively drowning in their own lung juice because people can’t foresake a pint down the pub for a few weeks.
Feel good???
I was around at the time of the Hong Kong flu pandemic in 1968. As I was only 14 at that time I was not directly affected, but there was certainly no attempt by the Government to impose a lock-down in this way.
So? This is now, with the science as it is believed to be now. You don’t have a leg to stand on.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Why are you going to pubs when the advice is not to?
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
That is irresponsible selfish behaviour and does you no credit at all Justin
We have to make our own judgements on this. I will simply add that I have complied with some of the earlier advice to a much greater extent than others I have encountered. On Sunday evenings, I usually join a group of 6 or 7 people - who range in age from 59 to 73. They include a couple in their early 70s, and at the end of the evening , the guy invariably shakes hands and gives a hug to the others prior to departure. His wife is even more physically demonstrative and pretty well insists on giving everybody a good snog before leaving. A week ago I declined the handshake from the guy but was caught unawares by his wife. Last Sunday,however, I did resist successfully the lady's attempt to embrace me - and made it clear that on this matter I intent to comply with official medical advice. By the way , both are Tory voters.
This isn’t about who votes for whom. It’s about right and wrong. We are emphatically not free to make our own judgements on this because enough idiots will do what they want and more will die as a result. Horribly effectively drowning in their own lung juice because people can’t foresake a pint down the pub for a few weeks.
Feel good???
I was around at the time of the Hong Kong flu pandemic in 1968. As I was only 14 at that time I was not directly affected, but there was certainly no attempt by the Government to impose a lock-down in this way.
And that somehow justifies not following advice this time?
Make it unlawful then! I would not seek to break the law.
As a rule you don't follow advice? You do sound like the stubborn sort.
Last night I popped out to a local pub after 10pm for a couple of pints, and was met with a notice on the entrance door informing customers that payment is now to be 'by card only' until further notice. Had to return home to pick up my credit card. Apparently this is now becoming common. I will be visiting another pub later tonight, and will be interested to see how its management is playing things.
Why are you going to pubs when the advice is not to?
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
That is irresponsible selfish behaviour and does you no credit at all Justin
We have to make our own judgements on this. I will simply add that I have complied with some of the earlier advice to a much greater extent than others I have encountered. On Sunday evenings, I usually join a group of 6 or 7 people - who range in age from 59 to 73. They include a couple in their early 70s, and at the end of the evening , the guy invariably shakes hands and gives a hug to the others prior to departure. His wife is even more physically demonstrative and pretty well insists on giving everybody a good snog before leaving. A week ago I declined the handshake from the guy but was caught unawares by his wife. Last Sunday,however, I did resist successfully the lady's attempt to embrace me - and made it clear that on this matter I intent to comply with official medical advice. By the way , both are Tory voters.
... I honestly lose track of all these titles. I was born in 1965. Is that Baby Boomer? Or Gen X? I think I ought to know so I can behave accordingly.
I was also born in 65 and would like a definitive ruling on this
It appears that there is no definitive year. According to Wikipedia the crossover is somewhere between 1960 and 1965.
"Generation X (or Gen X for short) is the demographic cohort following the baby boomers and preceding the Millennials. Researchers and popular media typically use birth years around 1965 to 1980 to define Generation Xers, although some sources use birth years beginning as early as 1960 and ending somewhere from 1977 to 1984."
Gen X birth year 1964 to 1981 for our company’s stats etc.
The same article says that the Gen is defined more by events in your youth. Gen X is Michael Jackson, Arcade Games and the Berlin Wall
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If you use your phone you can go over the £30 limit.
No risk to anyone.
To the one extent these events are irrelevant now, but they're useful to remember. Their wide-eyed ideas that financialised capitalism was infallible, part of which enabled financial institutions to carry on milking QE for 10 years after a crisis they themselves helped to create, are no part of today's epochal events.
Absolutely stupid, just like many of your other attitudes to society.
However, my 17 year old granddaughter has phoned me to say she has been sent home from school with a 38 degree temperature and feeling rotten. The result is my daughter and her husband and our grandson go into a 14 day lockdown. Fortunately both my daughter and her husband can and have started WFH but of course they cannot help us now though our youngest son and his fiancee will
The alarming thing is paracetamol is as scarce as toilet rolls and my son in law tells me his in urgent need of antibiotics and the chemist has no stock
I really do believe HMG needs to either bring in rationing or mandating all supermarkets to enforce customer rationing
If everyone takes this attitude there will be lockdowns patrolled by the police or even army coming our way in a couple of days.
Almost impossible to believe you are for real.
We need a proper shutdown. Far too many 'I know best' idiots in our midst.
Get a grip for all our sakes.
I'd say it is better to not reveal the lack of control the authorities truly have and keep hoping nudge nudge works.
Scarce resources on maintaining order should be focused on supermarkets and the like.
And in your support, I'd note that no-one talks about the 1921 depression, which was every bit as severe as 1929-30, but cured itself rapidly and withotu government intervention.
However... there is one enormous difference between now and then, demographics.
In those days there were lots of young people who had nothing and worked to have something (anything). We now have lots of people who are owed pensions, and who outnumbered the hungry and young and savings free.
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1212679425629859840/
My employer clients are, on the whole, being pretty sensible about the public health aspect. That means, though, that I have sadly spent much of the day advising on lay-off, short time working and redundancy. One or two calling about employees refusing to come in but the trend appears to be to close workplaces rather than force people in.
The more overloaded the system, the greater the risk to doctors and nurses.
But the fundamental thing is strictly limiting interaction with other people.
I will be going in to work tomorrow, but I will be pretty well alone in the office, and will keep it that way.
(Thought I’d get in there before HYUFD.)
I had tried to buy 2 of each, and was told I could only have a maximum of two items.
Could be wrong but I just can't see it working and instead it just reveals we are a paper Tiger when it comes to law and order.
London riots say hello.
This is your individual responsibilty to care for others and frankly your attitude will see a total lockdown in days and create thousands more deaths
You cannot justify your actions
Feel good???
When you were young, you went to pubs, you drank and took drugs, you fell in love, you played in bands, you went to parties, you did wild and irresponsible things, no ?
Why should young people lose a year or two years out of their glorious youth in lockdown? They are not going to get seriously ill, anyhow.
Who are you -- an elderly Malvolio -- to say there shall be no more cakes and ale?
"Generation X (or Gen X for short) is the demographic cohort following the baby boomers and preceding the Millennials. Researchers and popular media typically use birth years around 1965 to 1980 to define Generation Xers, although some sources use birth years beginning as early as 1960 and ending somewhere from 1977 to 1984."
Thanks in advance.
What's the big objection to using individual Communion cups like the Baptists, Methodists, Reformed churches etc? This kind of kit always struck me as more hygienic - always found it a bit icky when watching Catholic/Anglican services with a shared cup, but I guess it depends what you grow up with as "normal".
https://www.jmchurchsupplies.co.uk/product-category/communion-cups/
https://www.jmchurchsupplies.co.uk/product-category/trays/
How long until the loans become grants. Weekend or sooner?
This crisis will put moving out of London when you can, back into fashion.
In my part of central London people are already self isolating and social distancing. I just walked for an hour around the streets, taking the air. One or two pubs had one or two customers, a lot of restaurants were simply shuttered.
It is very sad, and mournful, but it is the right thing.
However relatives of mine elsewhere in the UK say life goes on perfectly normally.
Idiot yokels.
Perhaps in central London it might work in the short term but I can't remember the last time I saw a police car out here where I am (North West).
Remember the fatigue stuff. When people start getting bored after 4 weeks and they learn they can do anything they want and have the run of the streets. Could be bad.
Anyway not much point fretting we'll soon see. We are well stocked with nerf guns in this house so I think we can protect ourselves.
Who is the bigger fool? The fool himself or the fool that follows him?
As there is no end to this without a vaccine, why should young people lose precious, glorious years of their lives stuck inside the house with Grandpa Eadric and his antiseptic gels.
Anyhow, she's the suspected Boomer, not me!
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/17/business/toilet-paper-supply-chain-coronavirus/index.html